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Where do Vegans get B12 | RIch Roll
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I have been for a plant-based diet for about 1.5 years now and while I believe B12 deficiency is a valid point, I get annoyed with ppl lecturing me about this. Do they watch their daily intake if vitamin A, C, K, folic acid, unsaturated fatty acids, etc.?? Most of them don't and might be in many cases deficient in some of these categories.
My personal experience has shown me that I am much more concerned and about my diet and health and actively shaping it for the better than most ppl I know.
Do keep on inspiring, guys!
You can be eating your vitamins and folic acid, if you dont get your B12 you will not absorb them properly and you will have a deficiency on every single one of them. I checked every day my intake and still had lack of it.
do you? There's no vitamin A in plants :)) neither K2
@The Magic Twister
No, they don't contain Vitamin A. They contain a Vitamin A precursor.
Oh definitely! my mother was diagnosed with anemia when she was an omnivore, she ate meat every day (and so did I) and at the time we were doing research about veganism and we decided to do it, she is all good now, no deficiencies :)
Great to hear!!!
LolitaDark interesting...there is really lots of confusion over there...
liver
Probably an issue with body extracting B12 from natural sources.
How is your vegan journey today?
I've been vegetarian for about 22 years and it was only last year when I decided to cut out the small amount of dairy products out my diet that I was diagnosed B12 deficent. I had started to get really into fitness and I was training pretty much every day and I noticed I was getting really awful pain in my joint so I went to be tested for arthritis as it runs in my family and the only thing that showed up on the tests was the b12 deficiency. They actually took the blood test again as they thought it was an error as they'd never seen anyone with absolutely no trace of b12 in their blood but no the second test came back the same. The doctor was shocked that I did not notice something was wrong but as I've been vegetarian since I was 12 they way I felt was normal. Now I take 3 prescribed b12 supplements a day and I go for a monthly injection. I do feel loads better for it and my hair and nails are now growing in nice and strong :-). The pain in my joints also disappeared.
Do you take any other supplements?
3 supplements a day isn't that overkill?? Or is this just at the beginning and then go down to 1 a day?
@@vanessa6236 not overkill. b12 is safe
I had a b12 deficiency and tbh it's pretty heavy. I was 20 around that time and I had to take an hour nap after every school, while I sleep 8 hours every night. I felt cold 24/7. My hair felt out more easily. It was though to concentrate and I would fall asleep during lectures quite regurlary.
B12 doesn't come from being vegan or vegetarian for a few years, like said by another commenter you normally would have to not get it from your diet for 10 years or something before you get a deficiency. It's probrably something wrong in my system, my brother has the same. But at the same time, I would like to ask you to take your health serious. B12 deficiency is a serious problem to have and will throw your life of track for a half year, or longer when you can't figure out what it is. It's good to supplement what you can't get from your diet. Best is to try to get it into your diet, but most vegan products just have b12 added which really makes me raise the question what the difference between supplementing and eating it then. I supplement it. Just research b12 deficiency is you're still deciding if you should do the same and don't just listen to people that tell you they feel great so you probrably don't have to supplement. That's not a good base for your decision.
research nori b12 and aloe.vera b12
Just wondering what the source of the B12 in the supplements comes from?
Look up pernicious anaemia. It’s an autoimmune disease where the stomach cells which produce a substance known as Intrinsic factor are damaged by body’s own immune system. Intrinsic factor binds to B12 in the stomach and this combined form is absorbed further down the gut at the terminal ileum. If you have pernicious anaemia it doesn’t matter how much B12 you ingest orally because you lack the ability to produce intrinsic factor in the stomach the B12 will pass out through your gut without being absorbed. B12 with iron and folate is essential in red blood cell production hence eventual anaemia with symptoms of fatigue, shortness of breath, etc. People with pernicious anaemia will require lifelong intramuscular B12 injections usually every 3 months. Autoimmune diseases have a genetic component.
Sounds like the the symptoms of the average schooler.
My exact same symptoms. Especially after I eat something I just want to literally fall asleep right then n there. I feel light headed dizzy. Cold. My nails are brittle. Etc.
Actually it takes a few years before you become B12 deficient even if you're on a strict vegan diet, because our body just needs a really tiny amount of B12 and there is quite a lot B12 "back-up", which has to be used up before you get a B12 deficiency :) just some information from a medical student. Yay, sometimes biochemistry is actually useful :) !
Loved the vid as always! So nice that you keep mixing up your content with new creative ideas and interesting topics. Thumbs up!
Actually it takes a few years to just notice the effects. But by that time the damage is done and the damage is massive
why is it so hard to supplement?
Jana K b12 is water soluable. You don't store it in your fat. You can become deficient in a matter of days. Your body will have to use backup systems to do the job of b12. So symptoms might take a while to develop like nerve damage.
SCAN IMAL Because cyan and methyl forms are not the forms your body prefers. It prefers hydroxy forms and that's only available in animal based products.
drake fire any sources on that? You can’t make an assertion and then not back it up with some studies proving it to be what you believe it true
I LOVE your orange fridge. My favorite color. 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
40 years as a vegan, i got tested about 10 years back and no deficiencies, I checked iron and b12 out of curiosity. I do love nori so maybe that's been enough.
What is nori?
@@nicoletanico3456 It's the sea weed commonly found on Sushi
What about kelp?
I search vegans who dont eat supplements for better understanding of well vegan living. Can you tell me what you eat and how?
Yes, good point. I've also read that seaweed (nori) is a good source of b12. I like eating nori with my rice/ramen as well.
I was on a vegetarian diet for 9 years and I became severely B12 and Folic Acid deficient. Was suffering from severe depression at the time, but I began to feel better after I changed my diet and began taking supplements. I took about 4-5 months for the worst symptoms to wean off.
admiralasthma what did you change?
@@Snick896 Meat.
I take the vegan plant-based diet something worth doing, but regardless of what most people say, I take supplements since I'm always burning a lot of calories throughout the day nonstop! Plus eating vegan has helped me a lot with my energy deficiency, I don't think I could go back to eating meat again.
I had 3 times deficiency in B12 and Iron. Now, I gave up and take b12 every day. This is really important to address, even for meat eaters... My mum also had the same problem and she eats meat and dairy, all of that. It can really put your health in a bad state. I was sure I was getting all my iron, as now I am, but because of vitamin B12, I could not absorb it. And that causes anemia and neurological problems.
Absolutely agree Marta 😄👍🙌
So you take a supplement. B12 what brand and where can I find it?
Animals are also injected with b12 as the soils are lacking in b12 these days due to be over -worked ..so its practically the same thing as taking a supplement! Great video guys
Exactly! This is why nutrition 'experts' who warn you against veganism are hypocrites or ignorant. What cattle and bodybuilders have in common? The goal is the same: getting plenty of body mass and volume.
This is why cattle is fed with plenty of supplements. B12 INCLUDED! Among others, why B12? Because, thanks to Monsanto and Bayer and GMO suppliers, the fodder they are eating doesn't contain B12 anymore!!!
So getting your B12 from pills bought to your pharmacist or getting your B12 through a cow or pig artificially supplemented in B12?!?!?
@@ywheb2791 It still proves some of the vegans wrong who pretend humans are biologically vegan. There were no B12 supplements a couple hundred years ago.
B12 deficiency eventually leads to loss of vision.
What aload of crap
If i go fish from river or ocean are those fishes injected b12 as well? no.. they have b12 naturally
@@ps9501 true! Sardines are very rich with b12, also there are plenty of people who eat domestic meat, i grew up on chickens, beef and lamb that we had, we didnt inject them with any shit except when its about parasites and that it!
I was diagnosed with B12 deficiency anemia when I was a vegetarian. I love nutritional yeast but it does not contain B12 unless it's fortified. So, however you get your B12 as a vegan, it's going to be a supplement.
Absolutely! 😋🙌
WithMetta Absolutely *wrong* . Do some damn research on B12. Comment less- research more.
@@keisi1574 you too.
There's evidence that suggests fermented foods can help your body absorb the b-12 your own gut produces.
Rich is such a cool guy - thanks for telling us about his podcast. Great work guys, love your channel.
Ah he's brilliant! 😘😄👍
The little crumb of nutritional yeast on blue twin's lip is ADORABLE!
Hahaha 😂😂
I wouldn't never get b12 from nutritional yeast because its added syntheticly much like your total cereal. I would get unfortified yeast and get b12 from Chlorella.
Last month told I was B12 deficient and .. I wasn’t vegan then.. funny enough I today officially consider myself vegan after all this b12 searching. I’m already taking b12 supplements .. what’s the difference? Only Difference is I’m being kind to myself and my body! And giving self higher chance of long living. Big difference! 💗
Hiya lads, my daughter came to visit the shop today and had her photo and a video with David I think, her name is Rosie she had long blonde curly hair and blue eyes, we live in Bournemouth and she is staying with my Mum for a holiday, my sisters took her to Greystones cos we are huge fans of your books, recipes and vlogs, we are both vegan and love your recipes and philosophy for life. Thank you so much for the video even, Rosie was too starstruck to point out that my name is Dee not Rosie and I am so delighted that i don't mind😆 We will both be over on August for my brother's wedding so I hope to meet you myself, thanks again for making her day, keep up the great work 🍐🍐🍒🌱🍀💖
Bournemouth Vegans :)
luv that fridge. 😄
I just take a supplements and nutritional yeast and get on with it. Get my bloods done every year year and a half and all my levels are good or even above-average.
Only thing that is on my radar is a slightly depleted iron store, but according to my GP that's more to do with my age and gender. Again easily resolved by taking iron supplement
So you take b12 and iron supplements?? Which brand/how much mg a day?
When I was a non-vegetarian, I was always listed as b12 and iron deficient. Now that I don't eat meat.... I'm not deficient.. I do supplement but have for years.
Fantastic stuff Amanda! 😄👍🙌
So in the end you do take your B12 from an animal based source
Which is fortified to other foods and drinks.
My family friend has been vegan since birth, and now has severe B12 deficiency (over 40 years strict vegan). She’s lost sensation in her feet and hands, and has awful balance. Only now has she started B12 shots. She is from Sri Lanka and eats mostly rice and vegetable stew, not much bread or flour would possibly be fortified. She also does not drink alcohol or non-alcoholic beer. Any good source for her? I know there’s B12 from nutritional yeast but she does need to rebuild her stores now and it is not easy to find.
Annie i was vegan 8 years and my test shows low b12 I followed these morons advice
And it screwed me
This is all fake brainwashing they’re saying in this video
Same script
I’m making working in a compilation of guys like this
I just downloaded about 30 videos of vegans injecting their arms legs and stomach with chemical. B12
Full of preservatives right into their blood
Smh....,
Downloading this video as I type this
Vegan Phobic yes in my studies, my haematology professor apologised before saying “No offence to the vegans in the room, but your diet can not be healthy without supplements. Vegetarian can, since eggs and dairy have what you need”. Vegetarians can be healthy, but veganism does not seem compatible with bodily needs. Thank you for your story, it just confirms what I already was thinking.
Published in the Journal of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics say plant based diets pose a wealth of health benefits.
Updating their 2009 position on plant-based diets,the Academy say an "appropriately planned" plant based diet is suitable for "all stages of the life cycle, including breastfeedingand elderly" and adopting such diets in childhood can reduce the risk of chronic disease later in life
Torre Washington(no supplements)and latest research on plant-based options including nori as a source
I just add yeast flakes into any meals that suit them and don't really worry about it xD Sometimes i'll have cereal that is fortified too. I really like yeast flakes though, they add a kind of cheesy flavour to some dishes!
I LOVE these vids with Rich Roll :-) I take a methyl B12 and I LOVE nutty yeast too :-) thanks a million for sharing guys and sending heaps of love and tons of happiness from Waterford to Greystones and have a BRILLIANT weekend ahead XXXXX
Methyl b12. Where do u find this??
@@vanessa6236 Hi Vanessa
I am b12 deficient and i am not a vegan. What you think about that?
This isn't surprising. A lot of beef, chicken and lamb contain a lot less b12 today than they did 50 years ago. Cattle are supplemented with b12 , perhaps not enough.
You should be tested for Pernicious anaemia. A condition which means that no matter how much B12 you ingest orally your body cannot absorb from gut. It’s an autoimmune condition where the cells in the stomach which produce something called Intrinsic factor are damaged by the body’s own immune system. The intrinsic factor normally binds to B12 from food in the stomach and this complex is absorbed further down the gut.
Not eating enough maybe? either way going plant based won't help if anything it will make it worse. Plants don't have the needed b12 alot of the b12 in plants is undigestible and forget supplements big pharma bs.
I find B12 very expensive. €16 for 50 tabs and €18 for a bottle of liquid B12. Maybe when I go to the US again I'll see if I can get it at a better price.
😄😋👍
Try Amazon. I can find it cheap there.
The interesting thing about blood tests is that they can be wildly inaccurate. Eating things like spirulina, etc. are high in B-12 are actually not bio-available, but will still appear in the bloodstream. So it's possible to be deficient but still have a blood test come back ok. A supplement is cheap and easy.
Yeah its like Magnesium traits in the body there always up on your chart only because the least amount of magnesium in your blood will make you a "Deadman" your magnesium has to be up to top levels otherwise it'll rob from other cells in the body to keep you alive !No Joke!
I find it really interesting that you don't wash much of the soil off your food
+mellibee100 Eat Dirt by Dr Josh Axe
I’m looking at becomes vegan for health benefits but i need to understand all the vitamins a human needs and where to get them from. Please help so I can have the proper nutrition.
I wish it was b12 my family griped about. ..I just have to hear about how I must be wasting away from lack of protein :/
😂😂😂
As long as the protein you get is a complete protein you’ll be fine. Just look up which plants have all amino acids etc then show it compared to meat
I'd love to hear your opinion on omegas as well. I've been reading a lot about them but everything seems to say fish oils are the only way :( I'd love a plant based option.
check out nutritionfacts.org. Dr. Gregor's explanation is flawless. All we need is ALA which is readily found in flax!
Try adding flaxseeds and chia seeds to your meals they have omega 3 and walnuts, sunflower seeds etc for omega 6 :)
See I was dead keen on flax until I read it doesn't give a strong effect because the omega 3 it provides needs to be converted in the body before its useful. That process means a lot of the usefulness is lost. Not sure what to do about that now. nutritionfacts.org/video/algae-based-dha-vs-flax-2/
the reason (some) fish contains omega 3 is because of algae! Algaes are the only plant that produce EPA, DHA and ALA fats :)
There is algae supplements that you can buy, but I've hear you only really need ALA since it can be transformed into the other oils in your body ☺
+Flaggkatten you're totally right! in fact, or bodies can't use preformed dha and epa. so save your money and eat the flax and Chia!
My Doctor is starting me on b12 injections, i haven't even started yet. see how she goes. Been Vegetarian for 4 years and vegan for 3 months. Everyone in my family is a meat eater. Also I am facing a whole bunch of gut issues.. I thought oh great, maybe I was wrong. Turns out my gramps and mom are b12 deficient and gut issues run in the family. Truth is maybe I don't have more energy than anyone else and I do get sick here and there as much as the average person but when i ate meat I was sick all the time. Ive cut down colds that turn into sinusitis etc that last a month to 2 months into a week.. if that. i don't feel like falling over and dying after 10 minutes of exercise anymore. This to say that if you meet a vegetarian or vegan that might be sick or unhealthy, you really don't know their state before they converted and their state is not necessarily a basis to judge their health
jules brodeur do you eat enough fibre? Maybe that could help with your gut issues - that's if it's a gut bacteria problem. If so maybe try eating more beans!
How are you doing now on vegan diet?
@@ElinWinblad id like to know too
20+ year vegan and vegetarian(cheese lover), taken b-complex supplements to be on the safe side now and then. But I have never ever had problems related to B12 deficiency ever...
Same goes for omegas
Any vitamin D?
Cheese!
Cheese contain b12.
Plenty of sunshine before 11am and after 16
nutritional yeast in and of itself doesn't contain b12, but only those that are fortified...
Yeah i wouldn't buy fortified yeast
"Dr. Greger is a legend" - yassss!
Yeah man and Dr.Fuhrman is a no.1!
Why not just bite the bullet and have a few eggs here and there, or some other nonvegan b-12 source. Think of it as a beneficial cheat. I'm thinking of going to a vegetarian diet. Don't know if vegan is such a good idea yet. I definitely need to reduce my carbs and refined sugars.
B12 is a modern choice because of the availability of supplements.
True B12 deficiency is very over diagnosed very rare .01% of the population or less aka "pernicious anemia" supplements are cheap but overkill for most. Any veg or mushroom that grows in soil and fertilized organically will have small amounts of B12. GLYPHOSATE in GMO foods is a massively bigger deal especially for vegans would make a good video.
@Robin Murray i'm so glad someone finally mentioned glyphosates and gmo foods in the comments i've perused over various "vegan" oriented videos. it's really insidious the effects they have in the short and long term on the body's ability to process nutrients and maintain itself. i rather feel we have only begun to see the real effects
I guess this video is six years old. There is b12 in nori, a see weed. It has more than enough b12 as well as iodine. Duckweed is another plant with b12.
Thank you so much for this! I can't tell you how many people freak out over me getting enough B12. This is a great video I should just send this to all my loved ones so they will understand that there isn't a big need to be so worried about me getting B12. You guys are awesome!!
Glad you enjoyed, Ashley 😄👍🙌
Chlorella has b12 and its suppose to be more natural. you can buy it in powder form only need a little as b12 stays in your system for a long time. the organic powder is like 18 Euro
I stared taking that and spirulina alsi.
finally. some who know something
B12 is a water soluble vitamin, so no it doesn't stay in your system for a long time.
Recently I have been suffering with forgetfulness, stress, and extreme fatigue, being short breath just walking up the stairs, pins and needles in fingers..... a blood test revealed i am lacking b12, I'm a meat eater, so don't really know how this came about.
So you're saying that veganism would not, historically, have been a sustainable lifestyle, because you need B12 but can't get it without supplementations or fortified (manufactured) foods, which requires some form of technology that hasn't really been around until this century. Which sort of puts me off. I think I'll stick with vegetarian rather than vegan. Thank you for the video though :-)
Dairy is worst than meat. It's "liquid" meat. Causes more problems
Seaweed, brewer’s (nutritional) yeast and algae all supply B12 but natural yoghurt is much easier to source!
@@4everPhire22
It is the carbohydrate in the dairy which is causing the problem.
@@dartfather More than likely but also cuz it has pus and blood in it at the same time.
You guys eat fortified foods though
Yeah that's not smart!
I heard good things about duckweed being a B12 source.
Are you Vegan?
@@superbspurge Yes.
Hey. Thanks for this awesome video. Could you please tell me how I can take fortified yeast? Can it be taken alone? Or should I take it with something?
Where does that fortified b12 comes from?
Can someone explain me how B12 which we can take as pills is exactly produced/synthesized?
There is also the possibility that B12 doesn't even exist and is a complete myth. If not, what about just eating some soil from time to time?
NyttNorge Nice pesticides
raise your own organic food away from pesticides.
This is why animals lick the soil when they get anemia.
This is why animals lick soil when they get anemia. It's called pica.
Yeah, sure, B12 is a myth and so are the diseases and death that comes from its deficiency. A complete, utter myth.
We know that what foods have b12
Itsu Lightly Salted Crispy Seaweed Thins have 360 percent of b12 per each one euro pack.
Seaweed is Polluted for the most part...
Hi there, sorry to digress, but how do you rate your smeg blender? I really want a vitamix, but the smeg is soo pretty!
Y’all keep talking on top of eachother 😂 Still interesting !
It’s a lovely coversation🤩
Proves they have plenty of b12
That was actually pretty annoying. I get a douchebag-esque vibe from all 3 of these guys.
That's just us as men lol
Hi guys....what about Marmite, it's a great source as a yeast based spread, love it on toast and add to lentil casseroles for that umami taste....love watching you from down here in N Z
Where can I find this??
@@vanessa6236 Vanessa, sorry for the delay, but you can get Marmite in most big supermarkets, it comes in a small black jar with a bright yellow lid, try the herbs and spices aisle or near stocks and broths. Don't know where you are, but can get in the US, maybe try the English section....hope you find it x
Nutritional yeast only contains B12 if it is fortified and not all of them are
As I understand it, B12 is an gut microorganism that our bodies recycle constantly, so if we have a good diet and eat fairly clean then our bodies will recycle what they need. However if our gut is struggling and not operating well, then reabsorbtion becomes an issue and this can happen whether vegan or not: plenty of omnivores have this issue. They may eat enough b12 but it is not being absorbed. Doing a cleanse may help, as will anything that helps digestion. I would love to see you vegan athletes who have not supplemented get tested, and I recon you could be clean, and good. Keep up the good work.
I've Become A vegan And My blood Pressure Is Getting Worse. I Need Information And Some help
PL have spirulina of good Brand
Please do some fasting and eat organic.
Go Whole food plant based
Why aren’t we taking about fixing the soil instead? Supplements are the answer that everyone gives. I’m suppose to just take this powder and that capsule and that’s better than getting it naturally? There’s always some extra BS in those supplements.
so if your meat comes from a grain fed factory are they still getting their b12? I usually take chlorella
Is Schizophrenia related to vitamin B12 deficiency?
So, maybe you are right but several mental illnesses. Thank you.
Hm, what if you plant your own food in the garden and crush up a b12 pill or two and spread it around in the soil to live and multiply there? You wash your meat as well as your vegetables, then you wouldn't need to keep buying supplements.
B12 will not multiply on its own. In ruminants, they eat b12 directly from soil or they eat cobalt from soil and the bacteria in their rumens covert it to b12. Feedlots also inject cobalt to cattles.
I'm not vegan, I'm vegetarian, don't know if that changes my B-12 intake, but it has never been a problem for me. However I want to address another vital nutrient that has been a problem for me.
I've been vegetarian for about 18 years now, and in my experience getting a good source of non-Heme Iron is something frequently overlooked. I recently found out that I have been highly Iron deficient for quite some time, I had even supplemented with Iron tablets in the past, it turns out these are mostly useless as more than 70% (when taken in solid form) is not absorbed by the body. Basically the body most readily absorbs Heme-Iron, that is Iron bound to a protein, which comes from animal sources. This puts anyone not eating meat at a considerable disadvantage, as you will need several times the amount of non-Heme Iron in your diet, in order to absorb the "equivalent" and "sufficient" daily amount of Heme-Iron.
yes, iron from animal protein is easier absorbed. BUT milk can block the absorption of iron from plants. do some research on that. usually, vegans are less deficient of iron than vegetarians! good luck! :)
You should add vitamin c when you take non heme iron. Non heme iron needs vitamin c to be absorbed. Try taking it with some fruit juice...
I was vegetarian and I got deficiency on B12 and on Iron (because of the lack of b12) three times in a row after 5 years. I am vegan and I still had because I just did not want to believe I need to take supplements. So, yeah. Take your supplements every day. Even though, you do not like to put "chemicals" in your body.
My body don’t absorb b12 so my doctor gives me b12 jabs every 3 months. It deffo makes a difference for me
Love you guys and greetings from Scotland! Try talking to my son about B12. He's a vegetarian but thinks he's OK until the Doctor told him off. I hear that Duck weed is full of B12 but I think I'll stick to my supplements.
Those supplements are full of genetically engineered bacteria made in drug labs along with other nasty ingredients like coal tar, sewage sludge or even dairy waste. You already have naturally occurring beneficial bacteria if you have a healthy gut. Your own body makes it. It's a lie that only animals have it in their intestines.
So if the animals get B12 from the soil but then you are saying that the soil doesn’t have enough B12 because it’s deficient that’s why it’s not on the plants so how do the animal get enough of it if it’s not there
@Lexa R
Grass fed cows are not fed b12, only feedlot cows if they were in feedlot for a long time just to make sure. Most probably, it is not even b12 they were given but cobalt. Cows have bacteria in the rumen to manufacture b12 using cobalt. B12 is expensive and will not stay as long as cobalt.
I take a Methyl B12 and iodine supplement everyday but i still feel low(ish) energy. Any advice? I dunno why i feel so low energy, i dont think it's B12 as ive only bee vegan for a year or so and ive heard it takes around 5 years to become a problem.
iron deficiency ?
Might be a lifestyle habit. Eat good food, stay hydrated, get plenty of sleep, and try incorporating exercise into your daily routine.
Ask your doctor to do a full blood analysts. Your most likely low in iodine
Depends. Maybe you already had low intake of vitamin b12. That's a syntom of diffiency.
Iron , hormonal issue , lifestyle , malabsorption etc...
Do you get b12 from natural spring water.?
I want to be vegan to change my genetic like smell problem probably not more than 2 years do you think i should take B12
It's not vegan it's plant based diet
And where is the supplement coming from? Thats the most important topic here tbh. You can't just say "Oh yeah .. just get some supplements".
Exactly! What is the source?
just get supplemetns and fortified foods.
nutritional yeast is fortified with synthetic B12...not good..?
Tatanka N synthetic is the new natural 😒😆
no it's not good
I've recently found out about the different kinds of iron and that there is specific kind only found in red meat. I'm not going to claim to know loads because i can't remember exactly but I've been a vegetarian for about 5 years now and I've been tested quite a few times and I've never come up as deficient in anything. but i haven't been feeling 100% and apparently because there is iron content in our blood and in our liver?? and so when we get a blood test it only shows whats in out blood which is the iron we can get from a plant based diet and so apparently i (and all vegetarians/vegans/pescetarians) are highly iron deficient in the liver?? I am so torn because i cannot bring myself to eat meat and i know about how horrible the industry is etc etc but as the same time i want to be healthy?? does anyone know any more about this and if there are any other options?? I am currently taking an iron supplement and have been feeling a bit better but i know its not enough and I'm so frustrated
Sasha A would you be able to link me to where you found this info!?
This definitely doesn't sound right... Please post a source otherwise your words mean nothing. I can easily hit my iron levels consistently - everyday, sometimes reaching >250% of DV
Eat some vitamin C with your meals, or foods rich in vitamin C as it will help you absorb iron from plant sources.
Rich my hero
What about organic chlorella that is high in b12
My concern is that if it's a supplement then it's not natural.
I agree. Vegan diet is not a natural diet for humans.
Where u find it pleaee
Marmite!! Why isn't anyone talking about how good Marmite is to get B12 easily!
Oh Yeah...... My Ex isn't Vegan but she is Celiac. Vegans, Vegetarians and Celiacs are at risk for Anemia and LIver problems. I usually get my Vitamin B12 by Weekly Shots non-prescribed. I get them at Clinics and Vitamin B12 Stores [Which only some states have]. Especially in the State I live, Which there's a lot of Vegans, Vegetarians and Celiacs alike. I know, it's difficult! Sometimes I take Supplements with when I travel and there's not Shot Available. I take B-Complex Supplements too if there's not Shots available. Yeah, I would pack more D3 if I were moving to places like Seattle or any Humid and super rainy Areas. Yeah, I am lucky enough that I knew this for after 7-8 year mark of becoming Vegan. Yeah, I used to have strange symptoms like my skin being pale, my brain keep forgetting stuff and me acting a little Psychotic. Yeah, I know it's not easy for us to Consume it. Back then, Vegans didn't exist because there were no pure form of B12 at the time, When Supplements and Shots came, it was more possible. Vegetarianism was more possible but even with Eggs people have died from Salmonella and diseases of that nature. I am vegan for 11 years now and I realized this, My parents never understood why I take some Supplements every morning with Vegan-Friendly Sugar-Free Energy drink! Well, now you guys know!
fortifided nutritional yeast is a problem with folic acid!
Can you explain the problem?
unmetabolized@@alfonsodlt8850
unmmetabolized Folic Acid (the synthetic form of B-9 as opposed to Folate Acid B-9) has been associated w/increased Cancer Risk ,even a small Dose of 400mcg may cause unmetabolized Folic acid to build up in your bloodstream !
***Get your B-9 from Avocadoes , Asparagus and other High-Folate Foods.
What if one is yeast intolerant??
Should I eat soil
mushrooms have B12. Also fuck blood tests, dont let someone tell you what you have or dont have based on statistics. go with intuition and live how you want to live. peace
Rich roll!
hey guys can U say, wha happens if one over does b12..? ever hear of that..? Iam always lacking iron ALWAYS EVEN When I ate meat, so kesera. Love living Healthy as long as one can. aint easy as one grows older, for so many , Nuterients are a vital ingredient.. and all those vitimins. these are the best vids swift topic one vitamin at a time. coolieo perhaps show a few .. sponser VEGAN VITS...? Hello theres an idea.
You'll piss it out.
WARNING ALL... PLEASE READ .... I have always always had LowB-12.. and anemic most my life,,I’m 62,blond,blue eyed.. I went vegan months ago, ,,Well I quit using cheese and replaced it with brewers Yeast,, I sprinkled it on my salads all kinds of stuff ,,my last labs on 2/25/20 My vit B12 LAB IS SKY HIGH off the labs range,,,, the daily amount on it was 563% of vit B12 ...I stopped eating it and will retest after 30 days ... Holy Crap at least I hope it’s the brewers yeast 😳
What about iron? I've been a vegetarian for 8 years and I find it really hard to get enough iron through just diet alone. Any suggestions?
i've found this helpful www.nomeatathlete.com/iron-for-vegetarians/
A tablespoon of molasses a day should help
Sarah, there is a reasonably common VDFR gene mutation that results in the host having reduced active vit D hormone, these peopl need a heck of a lot more (about 4x). If you eat a lot of green leafy veg this is likely the case in my opinion. Speaking from BSc in nutrition, info from a Nutrigenetics module. Best of luck
Hi Sarah, I've been a vegetarian for over 20 years now and over the years have had many bouts of low Iron and B12, I've taken supplements and had B12 injections. I've been very stable for the last few years. I think one of the main reasons has been porridge or over night oats made with almond milk and a sprinkling of mixed seeds every morning, snacking on nuts and seeds and throwing beans, lentils and spinach into every meal. Also a lot fruit, as the vitamin C will help the iron to absorb into your blood stream.
Sorry if this is a bit basic but works for me.
If you decide to use molasses, make sure it's "blackstrap" molasses, the iron content is vastly different. Also you might try Shilajit, which is quite effective in treating iron deficiency.
Omnivores are deficient because they're plant-based.
Carnivore is the way to go. Have 3lbs of beef a day and some liver weekly and you've got all the nutrients you need.
I've had roughly 500kg of beef this year. :)
That's good for you man, but I'm all about being sustainable and that in no way shape or form is sustainable
@@jorgen5501 that's a complete lie. Typical vegan.
@@Beergutable Who the hell said I'm vegan? Tell me how eating only meat would be sustainable? I'm dying to know you're response. You truly think everyone can be carnivore. 😂
@@jorgen5501 because why perpetuate the lie that animal-based diets are unsustainable?
If you actually wanted to know you'd look up the research that's come out recently in the wake of all the vegan propaganda.
@@Beergutable What research has come out. I look everyday. How the hell would the whole world be "carnivore"
Could you tell me where are your awesome tank tops from?
Huge fan of your videos by the way! :-)
Look up garden of eden. He is great
maybe we should eat soil ?!!!!
Thordur Hogna It seems only an extremely minute percentage of the population seems to understand this.
You don't address the issue of the lack of b12 in a vegan diet. By saying that Vegans should stake a b12 supplement aren't you saying a vegan diet by itself is inadequate?
Grahame Thompson 40% of the US population is B12 deficient, 1% of the US is vegan - this quite clearly shows that it's not a problem confined to just vegans. Yes it is extremely hard to get B12 from natural sources on a vegan diet, I don't doubt that. But the facts I mentioned show that it's simply a problem because every B12 source nowadays is lacking, whereas hundreds of years ago our soil was richer, our water wasn't cleaned etc. Everyone should be taking a B12 supplement, not just vegans.
George
It's *impossible* to get B12 from natural sources on a vegan diet. Those bitches act tough only becasue they can take pills and eat fortified food or whatever the hell it's called
maccajoe been vegan for 9 years, B12 is well above the threshold. I’ll email you my bloods if you want.
Purist, nutty vegans tend to be the twats who give themselves a deficiency, I’m not doubting that a lot of vegans take b12 lightly.
Just take a B12 supplement and don't perpetuate the idea that Vegans don't really need it or may not need it. You are putting every young vegan or not as knowledgeable vegan, or vegans who go to RUclips to get Vegan tips as they first start out. Yes, I'm vegan and no I don't appreciate this video. It needs a follow up video and an apology.
Why dont u go to the point and give us the list
What time do Ye fall asleep at and wake up
Marmite!
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from red meat
I can understand the refusal to eat meat from slaughtered animals.
But what's the point of being vegan?
Seaweed, RUclips it
Spurlina???
Vegemite has a lot of B12 :D
Only Aussies eat Vegemite. The rest of the world is too dam smart to eat that crap.
You people in the comments sound stupid lol you do not need b12 vitamins. You need to eat organic wholefoods and you’ll be fine. You think people 100’s of years ago were popping vitamins? No because they ate clean fresh foods. Watch Markus’s videos he taught me alot lol