Forget Earthquakes. THIS Is What Could Doom California
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It's a weird thing to think about, but all around the world there are towns at the bottom of lakes. Many are from reservoirs and dams built to generate power or clean water for cities, but some were from insane natural disasters. Here we talk about some of the most interesting sunken towns in the world, and a potential disaster on the horizon in California called ARkStorm that could sink hundreds of towns and threaten millions of lives.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - St Thomas, Nevada
3:38 - White Rock Lake
4:05 - Tennessee Valley Authority
5:00 - Port Royal, Jamaica
6:29 - Shī Chéng, China
7:37 - Kalyazin, Russia
8:44 - Pavlopetri, Greece
10:01 - Megafloods
13:22 - Arkstorm
17:30 - Sketch Madness Results! 
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We used to sail on a lake that had flooded an old town when it was built. We unexpectedly ran aground one day, several hundred feet offshore. No matter which direction we turned, we’d go a few feet and hit something with the keel again. Figuring that the keel was stuck in some kind of recess, we threw out the anchor so we could winch it in and tilt the boat on its side. When we threw the anchor over, about sixty feet of line went out.
We think that our keel had been stuck in the top of an old grain silo.
So... You're still on that boat on that lake?
Well at least he got Internet.
😂😂
@@lonestarr1490Legend has it...they're still getting stuck every few feet. They've come to accept that they've joined the lake people.
... or a gravestone.
;)
Literally surrounded by dams and reservoirs here in Tennessee lol. Another important thing to note is how the large amount of dams built in the US have seriously hurt populations of native fish by interfering with their migratory patterns during spawn.
I have a newspaper clipping from the "society" pages where my grandmother and her sister were "entertained" by so-and-so, esquire in a town now under the local reservoir. Pretty lake, TBT. It's kinda a shame that the town was lost, but it's welcome that we don't run out of running water during the droughts. Somewhere around, I have a newspaper clipping from 1980 of me standing on a boulder pointing up to where the waterline used to be we we kids rode our bicycles down to "fish". ( To drown worms, more accurately; The fish didn't cooperate, much.)
How are those damns going to do when the New Madrid fault cuts loose?
@@jerelull9629 I grew up in Texas, 4th generation born there. People didn't believe me when I told them the Trinity River used to be a major waterway for moving goods between E. Texas and Galveston/Houston ports on the Gulf of Mexico. Lots of barges and steamboats traveled that canal then, and prosperous towns were built around it, like Magnolia, TX, a major cotton exchange in the 1800s.
My great-grandmother was widowed, and her wealthy first husband left her with a thriving plantation of more than 800 acres near Palestine, and a fortune. Being a pretty woman who still loved a good party, she would take her teenage daughter to Magnolia (@10 miles away) on Saturdays so they could board a fancy steamboat that docked there and had dances, drinking, dining, and lots of gambling. That's where G-grandma caught the eye of the handsome young Mr. Haddon sometime around 1870s. He looked like Tony Curtis with a handlebar moustache, so she enjoyed his company even though she was almost 20 years his senior.
Haddon most likely heard the rumours that her first husband had buried caches of gold and silver on that 800 acre farm, and figured that if he married the owner he could look for it in leisure, and he was all about "leisure". He loved gambling and wearing fine clothes, and not working.
During a card game in Palestine, legend has it that he accused a fellow gambler of cheating and bashed him on the head with a stick. This pissed off the alleged cheater, he vowed to get Mr. Haddon. A few days later, he shot and killed my Great Grandfather, Mr. Haddon.
His daughter, my grandmother (her mother was @40 yrs. old when she was born!), used to tell us horrifying stories about this. She was 8-9 years old when his coffin was set in their front parlor and _all_ the family was expected to take turns sitting wake with it until all the kinfolk could travel there for the funeral, even her, sitting alone with her father's body keeping flies and rodents away...
I never did like her "bedtime stories".
All my life people have commented about my big eyes, so I'd tell them, "Funny thing about how that happened, when I was a small child my grandmother used to tell me these stories... and that's why my face looks permanently horrified!"
35 years ago, I went tubing on the Trinity near the place where my great-grandparents met. Hard to believe that big steamboats navigated that 100 years prior. Probably couldn't get a canoe down it now.
Goes along with human's sterilization of the Earth. Though I know global warming is real, it's just one of the numerous negative effects humans have had with many of those in much more immediate need of addressing ..
Yeah, here in Rancho Cordova, they dealt with that by building a fish hatchery for salmon another fish, and they built a fish ladder to get the fish up there so that they can extract the eggs.
My grandfather was one of the the main engineers for the Tennessee River Valley Authority. He said the area constantly flooded and killed people and destroyed towns and this channeled the flooding while at the same time created power. I think he thought he was saving lives and livelihoods. We were and are very proud of his work.
Way cool...I bet he could tell a million neat stories about engineering on such a massive scale.
Ha, I’m hitting on all his cylinders…I grew up in middle TN and I now live in NOT wicked Provo, UT.
Please read my whole comment because it concerns something your grandfather might have had happen to him, that he never discussed with the family. It did but at the same time, it also destroyed lives and livelihoods. Quite a few small little towns were flooded, and farms as well. Again please read my whole comment.Overall though you're grandfather had a right to be proud, because that project saved way more than it destroyed. From homes, and towns, to farms and crops The one thing that's never mentioned though, is all the back room deals made keeping those a lot of the smaller dams from being designed to produce electricity. Most of the engineers were kept in the dark about it. Some that brought up the question why it wasn't being done, were threatened with termination. And not being able to find work if they were caught discussing it among themselves, or friends and family. Your grandfather might even have been one of them The reason, the power companies back then didn't want this project bringing down prices across the nation. Or proving, that hydro power was superior than coal fired power plants. There was even a documentary on this platform about it at one time. Think about it, when's the last time a hydro power dam was constructed in the United States. Every time one has been proposed, there's been some endangered species that's stopped it. You would think that with all this push for green energy, hydro would be at the forefront of it, instead of solar. You mean with all the river valleys there's not any left that won't endanger some Specie? It's because it would bring the cost of power down. Solar farms would keep the price of power up, upkeep on the farms, and replacing solar panels. Look up how many geysers there are in the United States. Then look up how many are used to produce power that could be. And you'll see what I'm talking about. You don't need heat to produce electricity, just water pressure. There's been quite a few documentaries exposing this practice. For instance the last man who built a power plant over what I believe was a geo thermal geyser in the United States. And the lengths the power companies went to, trying to keep him from building it. This platform used to allow those types of documentaries, but now take them down as fast as they are posted. Every time an engineer exposes this , they suddenly for one reason, or another become unemployable. That's why the ones who do, are the ones that have become rich enough in their careers. They expose it because they don't have to worry about job retirement pensions.
My grandmother's family had a homestead under Kentucky Lake that had been in the family for many generations that is now under water. Her uncle refused to move and had a standoff with the authorities for days over that. They finally got him out and locked him up in a psych facility until the water rose over the house and then released him since there was not much he could do about it anymore. It pretty much broke him as he had inherited it as the eldest son and was to preserve it through the generations for the future of the family. It may have saved some but it also ruined many. Sometimes money just cannot compensate for roots and honor. Things can and should be priceless.
@@markpashia7067 obviously they didnt go about it the right way by holding him hostage etc. But what would have happened if that land would have flooded every single year and possibly drowned them. Would it be worth standing on your soggy ground then when you could have sold out for a nice price? People are way too emotionally attached to dirt especially if you could buy more (nonflooding) dirt elsewhere.
It’s always unsettling during drought in Australia as one of our dams used to be an area with a cemetery. So when the water level drops you can see headstones out in the middle 😳
I didn't think Joe was allowed to leave the house! Good to see you out there! Doing fun things with the channel
Green screen.
I loved seeing White Rock Lake again. When my son was born, 31 years ago, his father and I lived in a cute 2 bdrm. 1920s bungalow 2 blocks from the Arboretum and WR lake. I would hike around the whole lake carrying my baby in a backpack baby carrier until he got too heavy, then I switched to a stroller. My son loved the ducks. Their quacking sent him into giggling fits. Sigh, good times!
Those houses are SUPER expensive now.
I took my ankle tracker off. :)
@@joescott perfect window for a "THIS IS THE FBI" joke. Fun.
I live in the Central Valley of California, just outside the Tulare Lake basin. Tulare lake was the largest fresh water lake west of the Mississippi prior to it being drained for agricultural expansion and the sale of water, it is now filling rapidly from the snow melt. It’s amazing, I hope it fills completely and returns to its natural state. There are a few small towns that have built up in the basin, this should have never been allowed.
You would need more then a single winter with a lot of snow for that though but it is possible. Not super likely at the moment based on historical weather patterns, you rarely go from a 25 year drought to a wet period in a single winter and if it doesn't get a yearly refill, heat and agricultural pumping will make a short process of it.
But predicting long time weather patterns is one of the hardest things in the world so who knows? California could certainly use some more lakes.
Building a city in a dried out lake seems like a very poor long term choice. California have historically had many wet and dry periods (from the mid 40s to the late 90s was a slightly wetter then usual period followed by a dryer then usual period) so sooner or later your house will be pretty much ruined, could take 200 years or happen soon...
Hopefully we do get a few more wet years at least, let's just hope Spain get a few soon as well as they are having a really bad mega drought at the moment.
California's water use is a bit out of hand though, fresh water is a limited resource and you can just use more fresh water then what you have for so long before you got a big problem on your hands. The climate and soil is perfect for agriculture but pumping up ground water and basically emptying the Colorado river is a huge problem, particularly when you grow really thirsty crops like almonds and California grows far more of those then the rest of the world put together.
So I fear my prediction is that it will be gone again pretty soon unless the weather have changed a lot. But it could be worse, you could live in Catalonia which hasn't been as dry as it is in recorded history (and that recorded history go far further back then it does in California).
Out in Visalia too.. driving down the 99 seeing water in the fields was quite a sight to see!
thank you for the copy paste comment
@@loke6664 yeah the incredulous bit about water use in the western US is that most of it is going to grow export crops to feed cows in Japan not only is this bad for California but its bad for the world given how inefficient beef is in terms of caloric value but also in terms of methane production.
@@Dragrath1 Agreed, and it feels a bit wasteful to grow it in a place with such great soil. I'm no agricultural expert but cows are fine eating hay and that isn't a crop that require great soil. Sending cattle feed half the globe also seems pretty stupid to me no matter what.
In either case, someone seriously need to rethink the water share system in California. Having a fixed system no matter how much water it is a certain year doesn't really makes much sense since the reality is that a dry year there is a lot less water to go around then in a wet year.
That is of course bad short term for the economy but it is worse when the aquafiers run dry and in worse case that can lead to a new dust bowl.
Water shares should be set each year depending on how much it snowed during the winter, that is the only way to make it work long term. And yeah, that will lead to fields being dormant dry years but unless you can get water from somewhere else there really isn't any other good options if you want to keep the agriculture at it's current level.
Getting water from elsewhere have it's problems too. China did that some years back, creating a huge canal system to get water into areas with more agriculture and it was a bit on an ecological disaster and the only place with enough water in the US would be the great lakes.
Making a man made river from the great lakes to California is an option but the cost would be immense and I have a feeling many people wouldn't like to have a river running over their lands so I don't think that is realistic either.
The choice is still pretty simple: Use less water or get more water but either option is a political quagmire and expensive to boot.
I think the one reasonable thing to do is to focus on crops that need less water, that option wont be popular with farmers but reality have been knocking on their door for the last 20 years and it is better to grow things like melons and tomatoes then nothing at all.
Fun fact, Pickwick Lake in Tennessee, formed after the Pickwick Dam drowned an area that was used to house Native Americans during the Trail of Tears. Also, there's a restaraunt beside the dam called The Outpost, I used to be the "manager" of the back kitchen(did four people's jobs basically) there, and they have some awesome photos of the dam being built and some of the record fish caught there.
Regarding the cities at the bottom of lakes:
I live in Austria and in Summer, we often go hiking in a beautiful valley called the Dorfertal.
It has a small river running through it, many pastures with cows and beautiful views in every direction.
But it also has many metal fixtures you can look through to see points which are 222m (728ft) above the bottom of the valley and these spots mark the top of a dam and hydroelectric plant that they wanted to build back in the 70s. Luckily this project was stopped by people who wanted to protect this beautiful valley.
Whenever we sit in garden of the little restaurant in the valley or just in some meadow where we take a break and eat something, it’s really weird to think about the fact that we sit at the bottom of what could have been the biggest and deepest artificial lake in austria.
But luckily the dam was never built and so people can go hiking there and cows can spend their summers there and eat a ton of grass.
So if anyone is actually reading this and wants to see this beautiful valley, google „Dorfertal Osttirol“ and click on images. It truly is a beautiful place.
I looked it up. Thank God they didn't build the dam. It is a beautiful place.
My brother went to college in Tennessee, and remained there after. He got his scuba certification in his early 20s because of all the sunken towns that were near where he lived. He decided he wanted to explore them for himself.
The Pineapple Express is actually a fairly consistent and frequent atmospheric River. It usually makes landfall in Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia, and is responsible for the Pacific Northwests reputation for extremely cloudy weather, and for heavy rain and snowfall in the mountains in these regions. Californias huge snowfall this year was close to normal snowfall for Washington State and British Columbia. Average annual snowfall for Mt. Baker is over 500 inches, and average annual snowfall for Mt. Rainier is about 650 inches.
The difference is that Washington, Oregon, and B.C have ecologies and geologies adapted to handle the pineapple express (rivers tend to be deeper, and can hold much higher water volume before flooding for instance), and our infrastructure is developed around the weather (we don't really have high elevation mountain towns here), so its much less devastating for the PNW than it is for California.
I remember being told by a tour guide in Ketchikan AL (in the inner passage area of Alaska), that if they couldn't see the top of the nearby mountain (I forget the mountain name) it was raining, and if they could see the top of the mountain it was about to rain. (Ketchikan claims the highest annual rainfall in the US.)
@@Sembazuru Ahaha. Thats great. Yeah, SE Alaska should be included in my comment. Its definitely part of the PNW temperate rainforest created by our common Atmospheric river events.
I'd like to postulate that it's supposed to rain more around my area of California, San Francisco Bay. However, due to human intertervention negatively impacting our environment by cutting down all our redwood forests, we have turned our area more dry and less wet.
I think the term came from Fritz Coleman. It refers to a boost of tropic moisture in a winter storm. Can probably occur anywhere in CA. 50 miles north, 50 miles south will get less rain than the main river.
A Bay-area citizen concerned with ecology. Shocking. :)
I've always been fascinated with footage of divers exploring sunken cities. It's like shipwreck exploring, but it bends the mind because you're seeing things submerged that one wouldn't normally THINK of when they think "submerged." It's one of the reasons I love the "Wet Dry Land" level in Super Mario 64 (and the DS remake) so much.
Though something I find equally fascinating is when the reverse happens. Like the example you showed at the beginning of the video, when an area that's been submerged for a VERY long time suddenly dries up...that makes for some really eerie scenery. Like when a lake or river that used to be a major trading hum dries up and you find all these rusted shipwrecks sticking out of the desert sand.
Like the movie Waterworld.
Well, sitting here in Provo UT I laughed so loudly that my grandchildren came in to see if I was okay. Joe, you're awesome.
Right??? That probably went over so many peoples heads 😂😂
I was just wondering about that. I live in Europe and know very little about Utah except that there are a lot of Mormons. Can you please explain why this is funny?
I grew up there and haven't stopped laughing for the last 10 minutes:)
Joe Scott: "Koalas are so dumb, they don't even hide from the rain."
Also Joe Scott:
I live in the California mountains in central California, we have a pineapple express hitting us later this week. It was 80 degrees yesterday. We are getting snow this week. The weather has been absolutely bananas.
Always supplying great content. Thanks be to the team.
Not often I find a video that teaches me about a subject about a subject I already know so much about. Thanks!
My old town, Gunter Texas, used to be an entire lake.
Any backyard had old fossils in it.
The last of the lake was still biiiig but owned on private property by a farmer.
We got to fish it a couple times.
Never much luck in the lake but there was this tiny little runoff pond that had MONSTER catfish.
At anytime, there were 10+ catfish 3+ feet long just swimmin on the top of the water. It was INSANE.
When you slap your hand against a fat catfish, it goes "plap" 👌👌👌🤙👁👅👁
Reminds me of when i used go to my grandma's place before she passed on as a kid, playing in the fields, every rock grabbed by the plow had some sort of fossil. None were any value, most being broken up to bits, but it was still fun finding them. The entire area, used to be sea "back in the day".
@@hongo3870 ahh, a man of culture 🍷
@@hongo3870 is this a reference or smth
Wait how big could a lake possibly be and still be owned by one farmer. You got me curious so I checked google maps and all I could find was Ray Robert’s lake which is fairly big but said it’s a reservoir created in the mid 1900’s. I actually have a similar situation except where I live used to be part of the ocean bed and we have a ton of coral fossils in upstate New York. The crazy thing that it used to be part of the Western Sahara area until they got split up
The Dunwich Horror was inspired by a reservoir created in Massachusetts that drowned a bunch of some towns. So yeah, this topic is close to my heart.
When Egyptians finally started going outside of Egypt (yeah, wars) they were astonished by rain. Called it a "river in the sky". They were SHOCKED.
I thought that was the Shadow Over Innsmouth?
"Color Out Of Space."
Which one? There have been multiple.
I'm from Mass. and missed this. What year was this?
Look forward to your videos. Keep knocking it out.
earthquakes just want hollywood to portray them accurately.
With LA being squeezed out into space like a pimple?
😂😂😂😂
Let's not forget weather wants to be portrayed accurately also. I will say that some movies about storms have been a bit closer to reality. Except when it comes to portraying the storm chasers in the movies lol.
Wait, you're saying natural disasters DON'T chase people down hallways?
I have a PhD in forgettology and forget earthquakes are indeed as the title implies, an actual danger in places with seismic bog-woogies or tectonic shim-shimmies.
Forget Earthquakes! The 1692 Jamaica Earthquake is really one to read about. Port Royal was extremely wealthy, everybody drank bottled wine, mead or beer. Water was imported in casks, and even casked water frequently made people sick. The town was built of imported wood and imported brick, and it was constructed on soft sand. They had warehouses, docks, hotels, bars, the works. Most buildings were two story, and three story buildings were not uncommon. When the earthquake hit mid-morning, the soft sand the town was built on not only liquified, it turned into the ocean, waves moved through the sand exactly as waves move through water. When the shaking stopped the sand solidified again, people were trapped half buried, and completely buried, in the ground. A tsunami followed up the swallowing of the town, and the water never completely receded.
In the 1950's there were extensive archeological excavations, the parts of the town, and the people, who were swallowed up by the sand are all still buried there. I forget exactly but I think the land subsidence was about 16 feet, and so most of the buried remains are under water.
Just had this happen in BC last year and it was pretty bad. A ton of towns and farmland flooded out and basically every major highway north washed away.
It’s crazy how popular your channel has gotten. Sending love from Texas. I wish I could contribute financially, but I try to like every video. Great job Joe.
I think joe’s Uber rich by now 1000 likes =$7 multiply by Millions and joes doing just fine plus all the patreons donating by regular monthly payment yup joe’s made for life by now
700k likes equals $4900 income for one video I think Joe is sorted financially I’m a fan I’m just saying he’s sorted
“Pavlopetri, Greece, predates Plato’s story about Atlantis.”
Well yeah, and since being in his past, might even have been some kind of legendary source material.
BTW, near where I live in California, during the long drought, our local creek dried up, at last revealing a shopping cart.
I was wondering why there is no discussion about Atlantis!
A Holocene fossil. Holocene is also called Recent, but that's REALLY recent.
Was it a wild shopping cart? Or a domesticated one?
I thought California has been flooding for the past few months.
Perhaps it was left by aliens? Interstellar bargain hunters
I live in KY and land between the lakes was once farm land before it was turned into a lake. my dad and I use to fish every so often and on his boat he had a sonar depth finder. I use to think it was neat AF to see underwater. Well one day we were riding along and the avg depth was around 30-40ft. Then out of no where the depth drops to 200+ feet and back up. My dad said it was probably a water well from when it used to be farm land. I still find it fascinating to think about to this day.
Now you where to dump the "bodies"...🙃
Thanks Joe! This was a fun one. Lots of shout outs for me.
My grandparents lived in St. Thomas. (Great Grandpa owned the Hannig Ice Cream Shop) I live just a few miles from Provo, Utah. And I love the movie “O Brother Where Art Thou”
Hey Joe...This was one of my favorite shows..Funny as always...I never heard of the floods before ...love learning new things..MUCH LUV FROM N.AUGUSTA S.C
My mother's childhood home is at the bottom of the John Flannagan Dam Resevoire n SW Virginia. She remembers sitting at teh top of a mountain with her family watching as the Army Corps of Engineers flooded the valley. I actually think of that storu any time I watch Oh Brother, Where Art Thou Coincidentally, my mother's cousin, Ralph Stanley, sang several songs on that soundtrack).
A sizable chunk of the town my grandparents used to live in is now 4 very deep lakes because of kilometers of tunnels, that were dug under the downtown area for salt mining, that collapsed in 1978 due to flooding after being abandoned. It is quite a haunting feeling seeing these lakes knowing that a lively town can be swallowed up by water just like that, with all of its historical buildings and sometimes people.
which town?
Please tell us the name of the town
People just wanna scare everyone
4:20 Thank You, Joe! I have been seeing this scene (mind's eyeworm?) since you started the piece!
I feel terrible today. Thank god there's a new video on Joe's channel to chear me up.
There's a place about 3 1/2 hrs away from me called Villa Epecuén, in the province of Buenos Aires, Argentina. In 1993 the nearby lake flooded and the entire town was covered by water...and remained that way for 20 years. The water has receeded, and you can visit the ruins, which have been blanched white due to the salt in said water. It''s creepy yet beautiful.
"I am a man of constant sorrow..." thanks Joe I gonna have that song in my head all day.
Hey, Coastal Californian here. We've just had an epic winter. Not only did we have torrential rains and flooding, but many of our levies have broken apart and flooded our local towns. Our coastal town and our famous pier (yes I'm from the Santa Cruz area) was completely destroyed from the last major storm. We even received a bout of snow down here. Snow! Our mountains got so much that many ski resorts are open for skiing past their closure dates. (spring skiing is fun) but in all seriousness, every year the winters get more intense. Whether it be torrential rains or no rains at all!
I love your journalism! And yes I sang the rest of that Team America song after you dropped that verse! Lol
I read regions with droughts are more vulnerable to floods because the soil dries out and hardens making the earth less able to absorb the water. It stays on the surface doing all its damage. Which explains why counterintuitively areas with more droughts also suffer from more floods.
It’s worse in areas with a lot of clay. The heat bakes it, making it difficult for ground cover to take hold. Then heavy rains are just shed rather than being absorbed, furthering erosion in looser kinds of soil.
It goes the other way too. Im from Finland, we are used to rain, snow and cold - now we have insanely long heatwaves in summer and its unbearable! Before, all you had to do was to open a window, now it might push in even hotter air.. ACs were pretty rare couple years ago, they were in public buildings only. Brown grass, wild animals going in odd places searching for a drink, all sorts of weirdness.. my nordic ass aint looking forward to it at all.
Part of the problem is land subsidence… as you pump out groundwater, the land sinks. This collapses the space between the particles of earth less space=less holding capacity=more runoff and less benefit from soaking rains. Land subsidence in the Central Valleys has cost an astronomical amount of storage capacity that will never be regained.
@@therealhellkitty5388 I think Florida is having the same problem.
This is why the Texas panhandle is so ecologically f***ed up. There used to be prairie grass with long roots, now there's not even a little left. It's all crops that need more water than the area can provide now, and hard clay.
Then in Palo Duro canyon, there are invasive salt cedar and mesquite trees that suck up all the water.
I wish I could have seen the area before "settlers" (invasive humans) defaced the entire region.
I just had an epiphany. Click-baity titles aren't at all bothersome when you know there will be quality content behind it.
Excellent video, as always!
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Love the content. Especially the "on location" shots.
In November 2021, atmospheric rivers caused massive flooding in the Fraser Valley just east of Vancouver, BC. The valley was under water for days, destroying farms, homes , businesses and the main highway connecting the west coast to the rest of Canada. Like California, this area had a documented history of flooding but nothing had really been done to prepare for it...fingers crossed that we can get our act together before worst case scenarios start happening.
I just love how Joe describes the destruction of California while smiling and wearing a "This made my day." tee-shirt. That made my day!
Great T-shirt, what I've seen of it, that is.
Just here to mention that and to nitpick. The shirt leaves out the single largest contributor to “day”… the sun.
Kiss your winter lettuce goodbye.
@@candui7278 Also if they live in a red state kiss their welfare checks goodbye as well. California's success keeps a lot of red states somewhat out of third world country status.
@@themollerz New Madrid fault enters the chat...
Dude, where has this channel been. I love this.
Liked the out of the studio stuff. Great episode and thanks.
joe teaching me so much about the ‘muricas and everything else over the years is just amazing! you’re the man, and deserve way more subs imo. much love from berlin 💙
I appreciate it. :)
The Baptism joke forced me to stop the video because I was laughing so hard and for so long. Great video.
As another noted, it was a great python-esque video moment.
Thank you so much for the video Joe! You know it's a banger if your intro is outside hahaha
Joe Scott on location - faaaancy! :D (I'm a huge fan of 'in the studio, chill, talking to your peeps' videos, but going on location has got to be super fun some times!) I remember swimming in reservoir lakes on the Olympic Peninsula - frighteningly clear water....and hundreds of feet down you could see the ghostly stumps of all the trees that were clear-cut before the area was lake-ified.
(and 1000% YES on Henson - delicate dry-shaving without a single sense of skin ow is completely possible with thing thing!)
Liked the on-location bits, Joe. I appreciate that you and your team are always trying new things.
I live in a house that was moved from a hamlet that was flooded ninety-three years ago
to make way for the Great Sacandaga Lake in the Adirondack region of New York State.
You did a great job bringing to light a subject not many people know about.
The map you showed was astounding
when you think of all the people displaced and livelihoods destroyed it indicates.
My house now sits on a mill road in Broadalbin NY.
There was a paper mill located somewhere on the road.
In the mid 1800’s paper was not made from wood pulp but from rags.
In 1855 there was a rag shortage in America.
The solution? Import bales of mummy wrappings from Egypt
To use as rags for paper milling! So somewhere in the dirt on my property
There could be the dust from ancient mummy linens. Ain’t history grand?
Wow! I knew there was a victorian dad of adding ground up mummy dust to your tea, but using their shrouds for paper, as well!? I'm surprised we had any left for archaeologists with that attitude.
Hi Joe, I just wanted to drop u a line and let u know how much i thoroughly enjoy your content. U are truely a gem in the great innocuous mass of internet content. I feel so ashamed that i am unable to support your channel financially(same with Wikipedia) but when i become financially stable u are at the top of my list for support. And though a few paltry dollars could NEVER repay u for the hours of content -not to mention research and production-for now all i can give from the bottom of my heart and the top of knowledge thirsting brain is Thank You. Keep up the GREAT work and content, from a truely appiciative amd admiring fan for life.
MatMor117
That 1862 flood reminds me a lot of Alberta's 2013 flood. It has been on my mind lately because in an act of craven vote-buying a month before an election, the party currently in government has announced that if reelected the provincial government will help fund the construction of a new arena for the Calgary Flames. There are many problems with this announcement, but one that isn't talked about nearly enough is the vulnerability of the new arena to flooding. The 2013 flood filled the existing arena (the Saddledome) with water up to the tenth row of seats. The location of the proposed new arena, about 100 metres north of the Saddledome, is actually slightly lower in the floodplain. By the province's own data that location has a 58% chance of being flooded in the next 30 years. The expected lifetime of the new arena is at least 35 years.
With floods becoming more severe and frequent, we are quickly coming to a point where insurance companies will simply refuse to insure entire neighbourhoods at risk. The reinsurance companies (the companies that insure the insurance companies) have been warning about climate change since the late 1970s and they are starting to put the squeeze on their customers to reevaluate flood risks.
I once went on an "adventure holiday" to Turkey and one of the activities involved sea kayaking next to a half submerged town that sank like 2000 years ago after an earth quake. Was really an amazing thing to sea (😉)
If you ever do an episode expanding on sunken towns, you might want to check out the 1000 islands and St Lawrence Valley area from when they built the Seaway. Scuba diving in some of these areas is just creepy.
One of the best you've done Joe. So very interesting historical trivia yet linked.
Edit, at about 20:15, I got ya Scott, A canoe is paddled not rowed! Ha!
Been to Port Royal. Very long and rich history with the pirates. Seeing buildings propped up lopsided in person can sometimes be overwhelming. Definitely a worthy visit.
I live in East Tennessee so I grew with TVA. One thing to keep in mind about dams is that they not only provide power but also flood control. East Tenn. was infamous for floods before TVA. Fortunately these floods are mostly history now. The other thing to keep in mind is that when they first close a dam, it takes weeks or months for the lake to fill in, so the scene in O Brother were they were caught in a flood when the damn was closed was not entirely historically accurate. George Clooney could have walked away from the flood. Hell, he could have crawled.
I love the clever quips in this video, and the Pythonesque baptismal scene! 😂
Intellectually I understand that the Earth’s topography is continually changing on a geologic time scale. It’s odd though to see such drastic changes taking place on a human time scale.
That's how I was baptized 😂
Possibly the best opening to a video I’ve seen in a really long time.
I like this format of video, happy to see you outside in nature ! 😊
This was a _very_ good one, Joe!
loved the man-on-the-scene portions of the video! was a refreshing switch up to see you out in the wild joe! :)
The shots you took outside are great. I like this direction. Please keep doing it when you can. Just be careful with the wind. :))
Damn. Arkstorm! I almost thought you'd released your first metal band reaction video. 😂 Great video as always. Thanks!
This topic reminds me of the stories my parents and grandparents have told me about the Mississippi River Flood of 1993 and how it affected the area I live (Southwest Illinois), an entire town of about 900 people wound up moving 2 miles to the east (and about 250 feet higher in elevation). The new town has shown remarkable growth in the 30 years since, doubling in population following the exodus after the flood. The street grid remains where such things as the school, businesses and houses once stood. Now all that remains is a small park and a handful of houses rebuilt by people who would not (or could not) leave the place they knew as home.
I like the small changes that you have made to the way you present, Joe. Thank you, it makes me happier.
The Provo joke killed me. Lol. Well played.
People in the San Bernardino area are nervous about this happening to small towns near the mountains, since there’s still so much snow and if it gets as hot as it usually does this summer, that ice might all melt way too quickly.
How'd it go?
As a resident of Utah, and a non-mormon, your Provo Utah joke made me outwardly laugh while alone. Great writing Joe lol keep it up.
I was looking for this comment 😂.
I'm in Cali now but I miss Utah. I lived in SLC. I laughed so hard and then my dumb self thought it was true 😂😂😂
@@ibex_capri4514 It is.
Them Provo pirates are scurvy in all, but their nave!
And I'm outta here before you think about what that even means.
KEEP 'EM GUESSING
I'm confused. Am I missing something important?
As someone from Las Vegas I fully expected my city to be displayed.
Thank you for covering St. Thomas. I was stationed in Las Vegas for eight years, and I've always wanted a deep-dive on the Nevada Atlantis. This wasn't quite a deep dive, but maybe you'll inspire someone out there. Thank you again.
you need to google atlantis. Its not just a city underwater bro.... you watch too much youtube.
I don't know if there's much to "deep dive" into. (I do include a little more info about it on the Nebula video). There's not much there but foundations, as you see from the B-roll I shot.
@@joescott In the groups where I heard about it from, it had almost taken on a mystical sense. It really is interesting how legends build up in communities; maybe that's the real story. Either way, thanks for the reply. I know you must be busy. It means a lot, especially for a broke non-patron such as myself.
Good for you Joe Scott-san!
Joe, yet another fantastic sponsorship segue.
Bravo.
Loving the new camera-hopping production in-office as well as the on-location shots. Really ups the look!
In Autumn 2010 it started to rain here in the Western Sweden. And it rained and rained and rained. As our lake (biggest in Sweden) started to fill up, the power company was happy as the lake supplies the power station with water and closed all gates until parts of our and other towns around the lake started to be flooded and by then it was too late.
The predictions are that by the climate changes, more and heavier rain will fall and the single outlet cannot cope with too much water as the embankments in many cases are made of clay that will slide into the river.
Bass Lake in central CA, dam built 1901 across Crane Valley daming up Willow Creek, for hydroelectric power for San Joaquin Valley. Before the dam my grandfather used to cut the meadow grasses for feed for mule/horse teams hauling supplies and people up into the Sierras to several big timber logging operations. That was before the big water flumes were built to drop logs into the Fresno/Madera areas to saw mills. The flumes would also be an interesting story for your channel.
This is a very interesting report. Thanks
Went fishing on Lake Guntersville in northern Alabama this past weekend which is a TVA lake. Stopped on one spot that you could clearly see what was left of a little over a dozen graves and their headstones on the sonar downscan and side imaging. Very cool and also a bit creepy to be fishing where someone is/was buried at one point in time.
I've lived in 3 areas longer than a few months and all of them have man-made lakes nearby, so I've made sure to learn about their flooded towns. Not only Saint Thomas but Oscarville in GA & Table Rock Lake in MO.
I too am conflicted by the loss vs power generation & water retention.
I SWORE I saw you standing on the dam while driving down garland a couple/three weeks ago.. Thought about stopping but that seemed kinda weird so I just kept on goin'.
Would love to shake yer hand some day though, good dude doing good things for people and spreading knowledge. Up-Thumbs from moi
Henson shaving is awesome :-) I've had my razor for one year only because of you Joe.
I can totally vouch for it.
Very good video as always, Joe.
Take a good look to the building of the Aswan damm and the awesome efforts to save 6.000 years old temples and cities in Upper Egipt.
Joe! This was a totally awesome episode! Great work! 🎉❤
Thanks!
Outstanding congratulations Olivia 🎉
Holy crap! So cool about White Rock lake! I live in Ft Worth now but I lived in East Dallas on and off from the time i was 16 to 23. I used to go to that old dock off East Grand road (the one next to the gas station and liquor stores and the spillway) in the middle of the night with my guitar and play songs and smoke cigarettes on my nights off to just decompress (I worked nights as a pressure washer). I'd just park my car at that 7 11 and walk up the hill to the dock. Never got hastled by the cops either lol
Obviously not the same scale as an arkstorm, but the over double historical average snow pack in the Sierras right now has already and will continue to cause a lot of flooding in the Central Valley for months to come. Even our reservoir's are full (Hope Oroville's new emergency spillway works this time 😅)
Amazing that so many reservoirs are full, and the runoff has barely started…
Spillway is working
I grew up in Vegas it's crazy how low lake Mead has gotten over the years esp last 20 years
And how it GREW in the 80 previous years.
Thank you for the return of "existential dred with Joe". I missed it.
Ooh! Didn't expect this to be such a spicy episode! Sure you got plenty of hate mail on the beginning of this one! Love ya Joe!
Good morning Joe! Love your videos!
Hello, future AgSci undergrad here! I wished you had mentioned something related to how the flooding of Central California will absolutely decimate farming, like for example, the fruit and nut production. This is a 54 billion dollar industry whose crops feed millions across America and around the world. It's no exaggeration to say that displacement is/will be the least of our worries. There will not just be cool sunken cities afterwards to look at.
California may experience 1-3 megastorms within my life time due to climate change increasing the likelihood. As someone who has 80% of my life left to go, I beg that you do not just end the story with "we have to be more flexible." There is much to be done.
For example, flood plain restoration and managed aquifer recharge so we can take in some of the water. Forecast-informed reservoir operations so that all those artificial lakes dont fail and cause more flooding damage.
Go over the real severe effects of flooding and offer some solutions if you're gonna use arkstorms as clickbait.
edit: Removed fluff, added displeasure
just ask the Dutch. they'll know how.
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Sorry about your house, but thanks for the encouragement. It means a lot!
I don't literally laugh out loud at RUclips very often, but that Provo, Utah gag made me lol.
I always get a laugh out of your segways into advertising. Very clever!
Great video! That map of the natural lakes in America is so interesting. I never knew how few of the lakes in the South were natural
Not fun fact is 23 of the US lakes are on top of black towns.
It was cheaper than paying to buy out white towns because the land was simply stolen.
Excellent video. Makes me wonder if there are plans in the works to start capturing some of this flood water. And, the new set is working very well from our side of the cameras.
Yeah, right after they pay out $34T in reparations. Sure.
In California they capture massive amounts of snow melt. This is, indeed, California's water supply. The thing people don't realize is the sheer scale of the amount of water that can flow through California (or not), and they capture basically as much water as is possible. Their reservoir and dam systems are massive and even carry water down to the desert that is SoCal.
All the dams and resistors in the world wouldn't make up for a 20 year drought
@@pizzas4breakfastalmost true but creating tributaries from the Colorado River to different areas of known melt water from the Rockies would definitely help. Also there are plans being proposed to connect the Missouri River to the Colorado River. Also to connect thru a pipeline to the Mississippi but I think the Rockies have enough annual melt water if used correctly.
Yeah I thought this video was going to go in another direction, in that California will be a giant desert in a few decades with how little water they have in the dams now. I hope they have systems like Tokyo where they built massive underground caverns to capture flood waters.
Good coverage Joe. Comment for the algorithm.
I'm so glad I found your channel.
I busted out laughing when you said "Provo, Utah"! That's where I live, and it's possibly the most wholesome city in the world. (I love living here. It's an amazing community.)
I think that Joe accidentally multiplied by negative 1 when writing the script for the video, lol. I also literally lol'ed.
@@jedimasterhighground334 Ha ha ha ha! Yes, he accidentally created a warhawk Gandhi! ;P
I spent a lot of time at my grandparent’s resort in TN. The area they lived in was flooded by the TVA. There are islands that used to be hill tops, submerged railroad tracks, and the top of an old mill. Apparently there was an attempt to blast the mill and destroy it, but it was a solid build so it was left alone. Pretty cool all around.
What’re the odds, I just rewatched O Brother Where Art Thou like 3 days ago and was thinking about this... now it’s on my feed
I am a proud user of Henson Shaving. It's been working perfectly for nearly a year (since Joe recommended it to us last time).
The increase of people living in cities was also due to cities borders growing to "incorporate" more population into them to tax these people. So it wasn't all to people moving to cities but the cities moved to them.