The Valkyrie and Valkyrie AMR Pro are susceptible to porpoising due to them using the floor to generate downforce like the current ground effect F1 cars
The vast majority of race cars use the floor to generate downforce, even a flat floor operates in ground effect. The Valkyrie is susceptible to porpoising specifically because it utilises a pair vortexes to aid downforce generation at the diffuser. When the car bottoms out, either one of the vortexes (it's random) disintegrates and the car loses substantial amounts of downforce, making it jump.
One uses active suspension the other uses a simpler suspension dampening systems that are illegal. Both are a hunk of junk irl because they're set up for novice millionaires rather than race car drivers.
First time I drove it, I tried the Nürburgring Nordschleife in it... It's my favourite track and I never had issues with any cars there... But this one is a different beast, my brain just couldn't keep up with how fast it was going... Clear skill issue on my side^^
I always knew that there would be a Sesto FE style car in FM, and here we are. Imagine if we got a Sesto FE in a future update, I can already foresee the laptimes and the leaderboards lmao
Going through maggots and beckets you could definitely gain a little bit of time by late apexing the curb and downshifting to keep the car from getting upset from too much rapid steering input
I honestly don't know what the hell Turn 10 is doing with these Astons in the game. The regular Valkyrie, which in real life should be comparable to or marginally faster than the AMG 1, is faster than a Porsche 919. I'm sorry, there is absolutely no way that this thing being faster than an MP4-4 is remotely realistic.
The MP4/4 is an 80s F1 car, when the aerodynamic and tire technology isn't as great as it is now, plus the Valkyrie's aerodynamics is on par with an LMP1 and F1 car which it is at the core.
@@ValentinCoder As it is right now, it's almost certainly (much) faster than a LMH or LMP1 car, since the available AMR Pro isn't the LMH spec, but has way more engine power than what's allowed by rule.
@@ValentinCoder so you expect a car with 300 less HP, no hybridation, and likely aero restrictions to fit the aero budget of the category to be faster ?
@@ValentinCoder I'll have to stop you right here, the Valkyrie AMR Pro isn't road legal, and obviously doesn't have the same aero package as the road legal version, as is clearly visible from the rear wing being a lot bigger on the track version. And I'm fairly sure the differences aren't only skin deep, but also very likely the suspension being set up differently.
X class was allready broken. The F1 cars were unchallengable, and 919 was useless. Same as P class, the faster Hypercars (Jesko, Nevera) were uslesss against LMP2s, which in turn were useless agaisnt LMP1s,. which were useless against the F1 cars with ballasts.
I miss Horizon Colorado 2012, it was just a simpler time. I remember I was 12 years old when this game came out and I would just come home turn on my 360 and once I started playing It felt like I got transported to the festival. All mental struggles of mine just evaporated and I loved the visuals of driving around through a place that felt like home. It had beautiful trees, buildings, sunsets and of course beautiful cars. I partied at the festival and I think we all did. Unfortunately in this universe everything has a set lifespan even the universe itself. So make every bit of your life count, make your life fun it will only come once. So my final message is make life your horizon! Goodbye.
@Nick you should check out the customisation of the 2017 Alfa Romeo (the one you use in this weeks single player event which I can’t spell 😂). Let’s just say weight reduction to its finest 🤞🏼
Saw someone in the chat say the highest G-force registered in F1 was 6.5 G. That's a complete lie. lol The *AVERAGE* G-force when going through a corner in F1 is 5 to 6G's. The actual highest G-force registered in F1 was 254G in Suzuka 2014.
Don’t know how they managed to put the red accent colours on the yellow version of the car, but didn’t bother to put the yellow accents on the green car 🙃
I have a feeling Forza Motorsport’s physics aren’t even realistic at all. No seriously some cars in this game are literally miles apart from their real life counterparts. Yes I KNOW FM is technically a sim-cade, no SHIT! But it’s worth mentioning racing cars from different years are like almost the exact same in terms of performance (ignoring BOP), meanwhile in Assetto Corsa and others they are so far different to each other. (E.g. a group C in Forza Motorsport being virtually equivalent to a modern LMP1, performance and handling wise. In AC however, different story.)
I am not a pro e sports driver but the first time i used this car in the game i thought this is going to make most tracks a speed joke to drive and others impossible to drive with it on
This car is MENTAL fast LOL. Checkout my controller here: bit.ly/AR12_EswapXR
Definitely mental fast at all
Nick bring back presidential escort
GG nick
Hmmm... right, Nick
Its a 90s and 80 f1 mate that's why aerodynamic have come a long way over 30 years
We took over all the x class leader boards in 3 hours excluding the ovals
yeah ive seen you in many circuits on the X class and btw i love your paint on the M8 GTE
Raymond vanished,came back and vanished again
Sadly. I miss forza horizon 4 days
Edit:Never gotten so many likes
homie is too busy with a "real job" LOL
@@AR12Gaming What he should pursue is getting a good wig
lol ya my guy needs to get on more often😂
@@olalekezion810and fh3
The Valkyrie and Valkyrie AMR Pro are susceptible to porpoising due to them using the floor to generate downforce like the current ground effect F1 cars
Aka sucky suck force
in game?
The vast majority of race cars use the floor to generate downforce, even a flat floor operates in ground effect.
The Valkyrie is susceptible to porpoising specifically because it utilises a pair vortexes to aid downforce generation at the diffuser. When the car bottoms out, either one of the vortexes (it's random) disintegrates and the car loses substantial amounts of downforce, making it jump.
One uses active suspension the other uses a simpler suspension dampening systems that are illegal. Both are a hunk of junk irl because they're set up for novice millionaires rather than race car drivers.
i thought it was a bug
The Valkyrie is INSANE. I beat my own records by numerous seconds in the McLaren f1 car
So did we all. I think the devs may soon catch on and nerf this beast. It's was fun while it lasted.
so the game's physics are broken. What a terrible game
6:50 “ah kept it on the track while flat” literally goes off the track with all four wheels
Forza has its own Vision GT tier car except it's not even fictional
Valkyrie AMR Pro is the most perfect car in Forza Horizon 5, boasting the finest exhaust note and the most captivating sound😍🔥🏁🏎️👑
First time I drove it, I tried the Nürburgring Nordschleife in it... It's my favourite track and I never had issues with any cars there... But this one is a different beast, my brain just couldn't keep up with how fast it was going... Clear skill issue on my side^^
I first drove it on a sim with my friend, and its safe to say it was PURE chaos. Nothing could prepare us for the sheer speed
I always knew that there would be a Sesto FE style car in FM, and here we are. Imagine if we got a Sesto FE in a future update, I can already foresee the laptimes and the leaderboards lmao
Nice! Nick made another new PB time with the AM Valkyrie!
@8:08 *Nick angry scream*
this stream was nice to watch.Thanks nick!
Judd FaXiL here !! this car is a love to drive
Going through maggots and beckets you could definitely gain a little bit of time by late apexing the curb and downshifting to keep the car from getting upset from too much rapid steering input
You went off track on Eagle Rock. Turn on track limits you'll see.
Maybe his time went up there but every lap he did was dirty so it would never be near the top
Such a good vid Nick. The joke at the start is class
we NEED the FM AMR Pro in FH5 PRONTO!!!!!!
Way too OP
Agreed. Literally just bring it in the European automotive update. A op car that fit the theme perfectly ❤
Fun fact: I once played with greeted dust (the person that made the tune nick is using), and HE IS INSANE!!!!
The moment I took this car and went flat out in Eau Rouge is when I knew this car was insane
I honestly don't know what the hell Turn 10 is doing with these Astons in the game. The regular Valkyrie, which in real life should be comparable to or marginally faster than the AMG 1, is faster than a Porsche 919. I'm sorry, there is absolutely no way that this thing being faster than an MP4-4 is remotely realistic.
The MP4/4 is an 80s F1 car, when the aerodynamic and tire technology isn't as great as it is now, plus the Valkyrie's aerodynamics is on par with an LMP1 and F1 car which it is at the core.
@@ValentinCoder No shit Sherlock, wasn't saying that it was as fast as an LMP1, doesn't mean it isn't close enough to being on that level though.
@@ValentinCoder As it is right now, it's almost certainly (much) faster than a LMH or LMP1 car, since the available AMR Pro isn't the LMH spec, but has way more engine power than what's allowed by rule.
@@ValentinCoder so you expect a car with 300 less HP, no hybridation, and likely aero restrictions to fit the aero budget of the category to be faster ?
@@ValentinCoder I'll have to stop you right here, the Valkyrie AMR Pro isn't road legal, and obviously doesn't have the same aero package as the road legal version, as is clearly visible from the rear wing being a lot bigger on the track version. And I'm fairly sure the differences aren't only skin deep, but also very likely the suspension being set up differently.
I'm 13th on the Maple Valley short circuit reverse!🔥💪
Theres a reason why 40 of the amr pro's were sold out even before it was announced 😂
I can believe the Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR Pro is way faster than normal Aston Martin Valkyrie 😯
Of course it is lol it's the hardcore track version of an already hardcore Hypercar, plus it's going to Le Mans next year
@@TheSilverShadow17 is it?
@@zwykyziomek2570 Yes, it's been confirmed
0:49 not at all obvious from times that track was wet
Who needs a death machine when you could have a Aston Martin valkyrie
So glad it’s here! Would love it in FH5 too❤
Nick and keep up the good work real true and I love the video 😂😂😂😂good 👍
X class was allready broken. The F1 cars were unchallengable, and 919 was useless.
Same as P class, the faster Hypercars (Jesko, Nevera) were uslesss against LMP2s, which in turn were useless agaisnt LMP1s,. which were useless against the F1 cars with ballasts.
I miss Horizon Colorado 2012, it was just a simpler time. I remember I was 12 years old when this game came out and I would just come home turn on my 360 and once I started playing It felt like I got transported to the festival. All mental struggles of mine just evaporated and I loved the visuals of driving around through a place that felt like home. It had beautiful trees, buildings, sunsets and of course beautiful cars. I partied at the festival and I think we all did. Unfortunately in this universe everything has a set lifespan even the universe itself. So make every bit of your life count, make your life fun it will only come once. So my final message is make life your horizon!
Goodbye.
What a machine 🔥🔥
3:00 - Genius.
Can't wait to drive this monster in the nordschlife on February 14th
The AMR Pro is way too overpowered I lapped Le Mans in 3:02. It is crazy to drive on a wheel.
Definitely not a foreshadowing of where the Valkyrie AMR Pro will be headed next year
the valkyrie amr pro irl is supposed to be around an f2 car in cornering ability, so damn it's fast in this
No, it isn't lol. I don't think you guys understand what an indictment of the game's underlying physics this is
I NEED THIS in FH5
This car is insane I lapped daytona, I have tried this at lime rock the downhill section is flat out
You should try out the srt Tomahawk in Gran turismo 7
The fastest lap set by an f1 car around spa is actually 1:41:252 by Lewis Hamilton on the 2020 Belgian qualifying
This is basically a LeMans prototype car! it's in a completely different class and yes the car would absolutely hurt you in real life haha
This would be impossible to defeat in FH5. Setting a 7 minutes record for Goliath
When a completely non-existent leader board scene gets more activity than in its entire lifespan
Copse corner isn’t even flat on Silverstone in a modern f1 car so the fact the amr pro does is insane
Eh, just add wang. EZ.
4:35 "You got more sucky force"
-Nick
0:46 hamilton did it in 1:41.252 (2020)
I just hope that car ends up in other games as well!
F1 need to adapt the saying succy force for the downforce on the teams cars
Would absolutely love to see it forza horizon can’t imagine the stuff y’all would do with it
And he is back
This car shows how bad the physics are lol, it’s okay tho since it’s built from the ground up
I can confirm, this car is so fast
This car is definition of pay to win
if this comes to FH5 then i'm expecting the 919 to follow
i think the only cars that could pull harder are the 919 evo and the VW IDR
This car is coming to Forza Horizon 5 aswell
Nick should put “funny Canadian man with glaring skill issues” in his about
I have a question which you've probably asked yourself before:
Which game is more broken?
Big rigs OR Forza Motorsport?
This is Forza’s SRT Tomahawk.
We need COTA and 2010-era F1 cars
SINCE UPDATE 3.0 ME AND MANY MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO LAUNCH THE GAME.. AND NO WORD ON A FIX..
You do gotta know that the only reason the AMR Pro Valkyrie is faster than the F1 is bc it was wet
I wonder how this car in FH5 would do on the Goliath agiant the sesto.
Isn't the AMR Pro just the 2023 red bull F1 car with actual bodywork? No wonder it's fast.
You can see why they're taking it to Le Mans
Maybe try too tune the car.
Brum brum ❤.
#SKILLISSUENATION
Imagine the Valkyrie AMR Pro cones to FH5…
Too fast.
This car has to be nerfed to compete in LMH/LMdH, so it's no wonder it's so powerful in game lol.
You should put that skill issue sticker on sale every time you have a skill issue
isnt it already in fh5?
Simulation 0% NFS Feeling 100% xD
Should forza add the ronin Fzero?
It’s broken but I love it!
Wait are the motorsport and horizon cars the same? I don’t play motorsport
@Nick you should check out the customisation of the 2017 Alfa Romeo (the one you use in this weeks single player event which I can’t spell 😂). Let’s just say weight reduction to its finest 🤞🏼
If this... Thing was added to FH5, then it would instantly be (and stay) in X class
Saw someone in the chat say the highest G-force registered in F1 was 6.5 G. That's a complete lie. lol
The *AVERAGE* G-force when going through a corner in F1 is 5 to 6G's. The actual highest G-force registered in F1 was 254G in Suzuka 2014.
Just like how forza Motorsport had to get everything good out of the system
Tax evasion
I got 2 words for this video, holy shit!!!
so it's like playing f1 23? but the car is less stable?
Sanity check yourself, boy. Those F1 Spa times weren't run on a dry track.
I received it on FH5 today
Don’t know how they managed to put the red accent colours on the yellow version of the car, but didn’t bother to put the yellow accents on the green car 🙃
The games been broke far before this car
This car is so broken 😂
But I love the Valkyrie
I have a feeling Forza Motorsport’s physics aren’t even realistic at all. No seriously some cars in this game are literally miles apart from their real life counterparts. Yes I KNOW FM is technically a sim-cade, no SHIT! But it’s worth mentioning racing cars from different years are like almost the exact same in terms of performance (ignoring BOP), meanwhile in Assetto Corsa and others they are so far different to each other. (E.g. a group C in Forza Motorsport being virtually equivalent to a modern LMP1, performance and handling wise. In AC however, different story.)
Is it faster than the Sesto Elemento FE?
Why doesnt nick use the wheel on fm8 and beamng
Valkyrie is already in FH5
Turn 10's dodge srt tomahawk
I am not a pro e sports driver but the first time i used this car in the game i thought this is going to make most tracks a speed joke to drive and others impossible to drive with it on
Spa 2023 is wet qualifying......
I believe it’s also flat at eau rouge
what is the dude you got your tune from
For something to break it has to have worked at some point
*Then what do you call Forza Motorsport?*
Wait for the dodge tomahawk
of course forza made the best handling car a dlc because they are turning into ea
Nick went into the backrooms woth that speed
day 2 of asking to bring the outro back
Ew no
@@AR12Gaming but it's so iconic for the channel :(
Hahahahaha my GT is happyman475 wasn’t expecting to see it in an ar12 video