there is not skill issues CASUL, this car is even slower on any circuit than the huayra R , CCGT, brabham bt62, and also slower than the viper AE , and im not a peasant player, tested it at mirador circuit, this car is trash compared to meta cars, they nerfed it to death even a 2005 F-XX is faster than this trash car , you can test yourself instead of talk with your peasant cock, talk with lap times by yourself, CASUL
The AMR Pro shows the devs that the PI system needs an update. Nerfing the car isnt the best option, so a PI system like Motorsport has may be a good option, because there are many cars that are nerfed to keep them out of X class stock
Literally the reason we need a higher class than X. Surely the reason they didn’t have more upgrades was because of this thing being so near to X to begin with.
Revamping the class system? We have a million reasons to do that, they won't. Also having the R3/R2/R1 classes helped with this. It was already in FH1 and they just got rid of it for no reason. Now everything's smushed in S1 and S2 and the balancing is all over the place.
A lot of cars in the game are done dirty. AMG One is a lot slower in game than it is in real life. Now the AMR Pro has been "nerfed", though in reality they just put its 800 bhp configuration in game. Maybe they're simulating the Le Mans balance of performance
yeah in motorsports the amr does not struggle to accelerate to 220mph going up hill and in fh5 it struggle's to hit 200mph which i put down to the fh5 devs giving the amr a shit ton of aero drag and well fm8 and fh5 have the amr at the 1000hp limit but irl it has 1155hp maximum
I think the PI system really needs a rethink, the fact the lowest rating is 100 and goes up to 999 is strange. Why not have it go from 1 to 999 instead. With the current system, this would reduce a lot of cars by 90+ PI points, but then also give us a clear indication of how good the X-class cars are compared to each other. And then it would also show us the true X-class cars, because some of them don’t deserve to be in X-class. Tbf though way the game rates a cars PI is completely broken as is. They’ve done a good job at making it better over the last few games, but it’s still a long way off being remotely accurate
Also in fact the system is from 600 to 999. And what makes it even worth - it feels like non-linear inside the class. And real difference (except 998 and 999) goes by at best 5 points, but often 10+ points. Feels like typical usage of 1-10 grade systems (for games, movies, products, etc.), when median is at 7 instead of 5, 1-4 is basically the same grade, 10 is either for the third of the rating or virtually non-existent.
longer wheel base but for some reason we cant upgrade it past 1,000hp even tho the regular valkyrie gets 1,600hp. makes perfect sense.... make the better car slower... yes
I’m not gonna lie we seriously should tell the devs to fix this car. In the forza forums suggestion hub we should truly tell them. Because there’s 40 of these cars in the whole world correct? Forza this is a love letter and a diss letter at the same time. Celebrate the engineering of this car. Celebrate the fact that it exists. Understand that the chances of us players ever encountering this car irl are slim to none. We get to experience it in your games. I understand it is not real life, but you gotta fix it. Celebrate the car by unlocking its full potential. Just as you celebrated the cars in the hot wheels dlc. Let us enjoy it to the fullest as much as we can in the virtual world. This car literally has no reason to exist but it does and it’s borderline perfection. You’ve seen the videos of people being passengers in the amr pro Forza. Let that resonate into this game too by making it perform as it should. Because this should be the second fastest car in the game. The BTTB makes sense. It’s like a vision gt in gran turismo. But this beloved amr is real. It’s not a freaking fantasy. It’s real. You unlock its full potential and make it x-class stock. And just ban it from online or something like you did with cars before. It’s a drivers car. It rivals lmp cars. Just let us enjoy what it has to offer. Because you are doing this car a disservice not only to Adrian newey and the others who worked on it, but also beloved car fans. We are lucky to even have such a car in this game. In any game. Fix it. Let it roar. Let it sing. Let it dance around the corners at breakneck speeds. It’s a swan song to the naturally aspirated v12. Pleas Forza. We beg of you... Sincerely, Forza Family
I checked because I noticed the same thing happen to the regular Valkyrie, but it has about 500lbs less of max downforce on both sides compared to motorsport (900 vs 1300 front and 1100 vs 1600 rear)
Maybe they should start using R class, in FH4 you can search for R class tunes despite there not being any. For cars that can reach X class, R class appears right after
I went AWD and haven't regretted it, it's just too slippy on RWD. No, far from the fastest (I only got 350km/h+), but probably the one with the highest amount of lateral G (3.3 stock). As you know, high G's is associated with less top speed because that G-force is aerodynamics pushing the car to the ground. there's no way around that.
I really prefer this over the Sesto Elemento FE because it's a lot more controllable and less chaotic. I feel like Nick isn't doing an amazing job showcasing the car. I really use it all the time and have lots of fun with it.
fastest or not, i've been watching nick's videos for years (since 2014) and this has really just become one of my favourite cars of all time. i want one more than i want to breathe oxygen
well, tested it five minutes ago , a WHOLE two seconds slower than the brabham bt62 , how tf is that possible?? also, the brabham has 1,91G , and the amr pro 1,95G and still two seconds slower? that is on mirador circuit , 38,4 on brabham and 40,3 (seconds) on the AMR hilarious!! 40,3 is also slower than the CCGT i think they nerf this car to death on this game , how tf is even possible that the brabham is a whole two seconds faster? pd. also slower than a huayra R , HI-LA-RI-O-US!!!!!!
i beat a bunch of bad to the blades with it all day today in online races and free mode goin up n down volcán sprint, all u have to do is adjust the gearing because the stock gearing is bad and slows by keeping out of peak power range too much, i made a awd version and a rwd but doesn’t matter much and both in s2 class, I think it could be better than bttb
The thing that sets the AMR pro from the other cars you said is the fact that the AMR pro is almost completely stock. If you could put the same amount of hp in it that you could the others and maybe some aero upgrades, it’d be basically cheating
Very sadly my forza horizon 5 game data has become corrupt and as a result I've lost everything including the freshly unlocked Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR pro
it lowkey is sad that they decided to nerf it. a 52.2 at horizon circuit isn't slow by any means but my pagani huayra r is surprisingly still faster than the amr
Interesting the Valk AMR PRO upgraded is basically IRL stock while other cars in this game upgraded are heavily modded especially with engine swaps & turbos. It's got to be 1 of a few cars that upgrading it actually isn't muich of an upgrade at all. The street legal Valkyrie gets boosted to 1559hp from STK 1140 with turbo upgrades. Curious why the AMR PRO version doesn't have a similar option. Maybe Aston Martin only allowed Playground Games to keep in stock per their licensing agreement yet let's be honest thats highly unlikely. It's more due to the class issues this game has which totally sucks. The stats are inaccurate compared to IRL & Motorsport.The Car really needs additonal HP upgrades such as turbo or engine like the streel legal Valk has to be anywhere close to the top cars in the game. Futhermore this car proves again we need more classes or a class revamp similar to motorsport. In majority of races the top dogs like 599xxe, Bad2Blade, Street Valk, etc are going to destroy the AMR PRO. Its almost a disservice adding a car of its caliber only to be held back by bad dev decisions. I guess I had my expectations way too high as I figured it would have similar performance as the street version valk but it doesn't.
It's weird that they would nerf this car so much when we have cars like the Brabham BT62 and BTTB, this should be as fast as it is in Motorsport in X class and similar pace as the best cars in S2 at the very least. Also, this car is not built to Le Mans Hypercar specifications, it is much faster and is not eligible to race in any series. The Le Mans Hypercar version will have less downforce, closer to 670hp, and it'll be a little heavier.
It is outrageous, that it is not even close to fastest cars of the game, being insanely quick IRL. I'm not talking about making it the new meta, but make it at least competitive... And on a personal note - it is slower than hot wheels. Actual top F1 engineer's passion project is nerfed to be slower than a hot wheels. I have an idea for Playground Games - just nerf real hyper/track cars, you have hot wheels, donut van, M-B trucks, isetta and peel, wulings, VW bus, etc. You can also bring some cool cars back from FH4. Why not make them top cars, who needs all those boring IRL insanely quick cars anyways? You can also make it as separate versions in car packs, EZ money.
You should try and push your driving limits. try without abs at least. And driving manual with clutch is best for control; and simulation steering is to extreme but faster and I try it once in a while on certain vehicles. cheers to your clips.
The AMR PRO is so much faster in Motorsport, it definitely feels slow in horizon 5 how anticlimactic i suppose being in such an open space with a track monster probably adds to the illusion of it slowness . 🙄
Nick: "regular AM Valkyrie, & AMR Pro version are different cars!" Regular Valkyrie: *changes its color* wow! Now I'm convinced how different 2 Valkyries are!
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It's so fast the devs nerfed it 😬
Well that’s not good at all expect it to be
You need to nerf the number of skill issues you have
And not nerf the sesto? Cringe.
@@AmigothemangoObvious favoritism from the devs.
@Amigothemango most likely Lamborghini and Koenigsegg paid turn 10 to make them meta
The AMR pro might be one of the fastest cars in the game but nick will always be the master of skill issues
Truer words have never been spoken before
There just couldn’t be a day for Nick without a skill issue
there is not skill issues CASUL, this car is even slower on any circuit than the huayra R , CCGT, brabham bt62, and also slower than the viper AE , and im not a peasant player, tested it at mirador circuit, this car is trash compared to meta cars, they nerfed it to death
even a 2005 F-XX is faster than this trash car , you can test yourself
instead of talk with your peasant cock, talk with lap times by yourself, CASUL
No one:
Forza: Let's make fully track-focused car good at drifting
The AMR Pro shows the devs that the PI system needs an update. Nerfing the car isnt the best option, so a PI system like Motorsport has may be a good option, because there are many cars that are nerfed to keep them out of X class stock
Bring back U class
@@khaosking2937 U for Uber Class
@@khaosking2937remember R1 R2 and R3 in forza Motorsport 4?
@@yes_man212 definitely. They would be perfect as well
@@khaosking2937 i was indeed talking about the R classes, but i think i missed u class. From which game is it?
Literally the reason we need a higher class than X. Surely the reason they didn’t have more upgrades was because of this thing being so near to X to begin with.
Revamping the class system? We have a million reasons to do that, they won't.
Also having the R3/R2/R1 classes helped with this. It was already in FH1 and they just got rid of it for no reason. Now everything's smushed in S1 and S2 and the balancing is all over the place.
Idk X1 and X2 class?
@@Twiggo_The_Foxxobring back the R classes from the older games, between S2 and X
@@Exponaut_R-01 So true! You have cars that just don’t belong in that class making it ridiculously unbalanced
@@Twiggo_The_Foxxo Forza has their answer in R class in their past games (even in the all buggy FM) idk why they didn’t just use that tbh
Both Valkyries were done so dirty 🥲
*I guess you could say they were both done so drifty.*
@@TheLonelyGamer_17💀
ik what your talking about with the AMR pro but what about the regular version
@@TheLonelyGamer_17😐
A lot of cars in the game are done dirty. AMG One is a lot slower in game than it is in real life. Now the AMR Pro has been "nerfed", though in reality they just put its 800 bhp configuration in game. Maybe they're simulating the Le Mans balance of performance
We need to make a petition to the devs to make it make it as fast as it should be
yes we do, #UNNERFTHEAMRPRO
yeah in motorsports the amr does not struggle to accelerate to 220mph going up hill and in fh5 it struggle's to hit 200mph which i put down to the fh5 devs giving the amr a shit ton of aero drag and well fm8 and fh5 have the amr at the 1000hp limit but irl it has 1155hp maximum
I think the PI system really needs a rethink, the fact the lowest rating is 100 and goes up to 999 is strange. Why not have it go from 1 to 999 instead. With the current system, this would reduce a lot of cars by 90+ PI points, but then also give us a clear indication of how good the X-class cars are compared to each other. And then it would also show us the true X-class cars, because some of them don’t deserve to be in X-class. Tbf though way the game rates a cars PI is completely broken as is. They’ve done a good job at making it better over the last few games, but it’s still a long way off being remotely accurate
Also in fact the system is from 600 to 999. And what makes it even worth - it feels like non-linear inside the class. And real difference (except 998 and 999) goes by at best 5 points, but often 10+ points.
Feels like typical usage of 1-10 grade systems (for games, movies, products, etc.), when median is at 7 instead of 5, 1-4 is basically the same grade, 10 is either for the third of the rating or virtually non-existent.
longer wheel base but for some reason we cant upgrade it past 1,000hp even tho the regular valkyrie gets 1,600hp. makes perfect sense.... make the better car slower... yes
it doesnt even get turbos. they did it like they did the fxxk evo
@@datboi2232 probably a condition from Aston Martin.
@aggg makes no sense that the normal valk has it then
pg did the same thing to the fxxk evo but the normal fxx can make like 1400 with turbos
Bro that poem we heard at 3:50 was just beautiful!
I'm not surprised at all that a 1000HP RWD aero prototype isn't the fastest car in a game where you can throw 1750HP and AWD into just about anything.
If anything this shows the PI system needs a big refresh. Glad the car is in both games though.
I’m disappointed, it didn’t get the twin turbo upgrade option. The normal Valkyrie got it.
This is our generation's CLK GTR.
Legendary already.
Honestly I was expected this is going to be faster in FH5 but unfortunately it’s not faster at all actually
I watched this yesterday when it came out and I’m so glad I put in the work to get this car. It was my first time doing the Forzathon challenges.
0:39 I think this is the first time I heard Nick say the actual number and not round it up or down.
I’m not gonna lie we seriously should tell the devs to fix this car. In the forza forums suggestion hub we should truly tell them. Because there’s 40 of these cars in the whole world correct? Forza this is a love letter and a diss letter at the same time. Celebrate the engineering of this car. Celebrate the fact that it exists. Understand that the chances of us players ever encountering this car irl are slim to none. We get to experience it in your games. I understand it is not real life, but you gotta fix it. Celebrate the car by unlocking its full potential. Just as you celebrated the cars in the hot wheels dlc. Let us enjoy it to the fullest as much as we can in the virtual world. This car literally has no reason to exist but it does and it’s borderline perfection. You’ve seen the videos of people being passengers in the amr pro Forza. Let that resonate into this game too by making it perform as it should. Because this should be the second fastest car in the game. The BTTB makes sense. It’s like a vision gt in gran turismo. But this beloved amr is real. It’s not a freaking fantasy. It’s real. You unlock its full potential and make it x-class stock. And just ban it from online or something like you did with cars before. It’s a drivers car. It rivals lmp cars. Just let us enjoy what it has to offer. Because you are doing this car a disservice not only to Adrian newey and the others who worked on it, but also beloved car fans. We are lucky to even have such a car in this game. In any game. Fix it. Let it roar. Let it sing. Let it dance around the corners at breakneck speeds. It’s a swan song to the naturally aspirated v12. Pleas Forza. We beg of you...
Sincerely, Forza Family
This kinda shows how much more classes we need in horizon. Cuz this car would be a lot faster
I checked because I noticed the same thing happen to the regular Valkyrie, but it has about 500lbs less of max downforce on both sides compared to motorsport (900 vs 1300 front and 1100 vs 1600 rear)
Even it produces 1800kg downforce in real life
it will come to WEC in 2025 with the heart of racing team
Forza needs know the difference between "Fast" and "quick" this car is very quick in horizon 5 but in motorsports its fast as hell
He casually beat my best score when I had an actual drift car and he beat me in a car that’s meant for staying straight not sideways
I think that the AMR pro is just a name for skill issue suffering youtubers(it will atract them) get this man 2m subs right now
Now we wait for the Chiron pure sport
the fact that the ride height changes when youre rallying it is insane
Maybe they should start using R class, in FH4 you can search for R class tunes despite there not being any. For cars that can reach X class, R class appears right after
3:27 Few seconds in F1, you’d be last by a year with that pace, faster than f2 but not F1 😂
It would be cool to see you use the drift camera anytime you checkout a new car and try drifting it!
Valkyrie AMR Pro is the most perfect car in Forza Horizon 5, boasting the finest exhaust note and the most captivating sound😍🔥🏁🏎️👑
Nick and keep up the good work real true and I love the video 😂😂good 👍
On a related note, regarding PI values, a whole bunch of cars have different values depending on when you got them... 🙄
I'm so happy that this car finally made it into the game!
I went AWD and haven't regretted it, it's just too slippy on RWD.
No, far from the fastest (I only got 350km/h+), but probably the one with the highest amount of lateral G (3.3 stock).
As you know, high G's is associated with less top speed because that G-force is aerodynamics pushing the car to the ground. there's no way around that.
I really prefer this over the Sesto Elemento FE because it's a lot more controllable and less chaotic. I feel like Nick isn't doing an amazing job showcasing the car. I really use it all the time and have lots of fun with it.
fastest or not, i've been watching nick's videos for years (since 2014) and this has really just become one of my favourite cars of all time. i want one more than i want to breathe oxygen
It's honestly disappointing how slow it is
great vid sick !
well, tested it five minutes ago , a WHOLE two seconds slower than the brabham bt62 , how tf is that possible??
also, the brabham has 1,91G , and the amr pro 1,95G and still two seconds slower?
that is on mirador circuit , 38,4 on brabham and 40,3 (seconds) on the AMR
hilarious!! 40,3 is also slower than the CCGT
i think they nerf this car to death on this game , how tf is even possible that the brabham is a whole two seconds faster?
pd. also slower than a huayra R , HI-LA-RI-O-US!!!!!!
Just unlocked mine with hours to spare. Had to go through a godawful eventlab to get it but was damned worth it
I'm glad I was there to watch the skill issues live
Missed it man. Hope we get another chance at it.
just but from auction
Yes! The car ive been waiting for!
i beat a bunch of bad to the blades with it all day today in online races and free mode goin up n down volcán sprint, all u have to do is adjust the gearing because the stock gearing is bad and slows by keeping out of peak power range too much, i made a awd version and a rwd but doesn’t matter much and both in s2 class, I think it could be better than bttb
I'm fairly glad the devs nerfed it for FH5 because other wise it would demolish every leaderboard for road racing.
Why havent we been given a Dono montage from 2023, was Twitch chat that bad?
Nick don't you think its time to start uploading in 4k?
I have test the new valkyrie amr pro, and the bad to the blade is better in almost all. The bad to the blade is again the best car of fh5.
The thing that sets the AMR pro from the other cars you said is the fact that the AMR pro is almost completely stock. If you could put the same amount of hp in it that you could the others and maybe some aero upgrades, it’d be basically cheating
Very sadly my forza horizon 5 game data has become corrupt and as a result I've lost everything including the freshly unlocked Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR pro
I don't know why but Aston Martin is naming some of their cars of norse mythology figures such as Valhalla and Valkyrie
Awd with drag tires and it’s still a corner monster.
The AMR is one of my fave new cars in FH5
it lowkey is sad that they decided to nerf it. a 52.2 at horizon circuit isn't slow by any means but my pagani huayra r is surprisingly still faster than the amr
LET’S GOOOOO that’s my dream car
Interesting the Valk AMR PRO upgraded is basically IRL stock while other cars in this game upgraded are heavily modded especially with engine swaps & turbos. It's got to be 1 of a few cars that upgrading it actually isn't muich of an upgrade at all. The street legal Valkyrie gets boosted to 1559hp from STK 1140 with turbo upgrades. Curious why the AMR PRO version doesn't have a similar option. Maybe Aston Martin only allowed Playground Games to keep in stock per their licensing agreement yet let's be honest thats highly unlikely. It's more due to the class issues this game has which totally sucks. The stats are inaccurate compared to IRL & Motorsport.The Car really needs additonal HP upgrades such as turbo or engine like the streel legal Valk has to be anywhere close to the top cars in the game. Futhermore this car proves again we need more classes or a class revamp similar to motorsport. In majority of races the top dogs like 599xxe, Bad2Blade, Street Valk, etc are going to destroy the AMR PRO. Its almost a disservice adding a car of its caliber only to be held back by bad dev decisions. I guess I had my expectations way too high as I figured it would have similar performance as the street version valk but it doesn't.
Disappointing from that angle. People have been waiting 2/3 years to finally drive this car around in game and its nerfed from the start?
welp the SVC12’s reign has ended because this car sounds absolutely demon like
So we now have 3 cars which can drive upside down lol
i tried this car in the goliath race and i got 10 minutes and my pb wasnt even sub 14
This car with all the aero looks like smth that Batman would drive on track day. I wonder, if it's faster than the F1 cars
the aero jesus
Motorsport be like now it's your turn horizon
Why does the amr pro's wing remind me of the wing u can put on the ID zerouno from FH4
It's weird that they would nerf this car so much when we have cars like the Brabham BT62 and BTTB, this should be as fast as it is in Motorsport in X class and similar pace as the best cars in S2 at the very least. Also, this car is not built to Le Mans Hypercar specifications, it is much faster and is not eligible to race in any series. The Le Mans Hypercar version will have less downforce, closer to 670hp, and it'll be a little heavier.
Devs un nerf it and make it the same as the Motorsport version
can't wait to do stunts with this car 😜
It is outrageous, that it is not even close to fastest cars of the game, being insanely quick IRL.
I'm not talking about making it the new meta, but make it at least competitive...
And on a personal note - it is slower than hot wheels. Actual top F1 engineer's passion project is nerfed to be slower than a hot wheels. I have an idea for Playground Games - just nerf real hyper/track cars, you have hot wheels, donut van, M-B trucks, isetta and peel, wulings, VW bus, etc. You can also bring some cool cars back from FH4. Why not make them top cars, who needs all those boring IRL insanely quick cars anyways? You can also make it as separate versions in car packs, EZ money.
3:50
You should try and push your driving limits. try without abs at least. And driving manual with clutch is best for control; and simulation steering is to extreme but faster and I try it once in a while on certain vehicles. cheers to your clips.
It clearly need more speed lol but without that it’s a good add let’s be honest
1:09 2nd gear
PI SYSTEM OVERHAUL PLEASE
It’s definitely one of if not the best handling cars in the game
I need to get back to this game i waited for this car
Can u post a video how to unlock it and get those 20 pts. I am new to forza horizon and I have no idea
Would it be worth it picking em up in auction rn?
Its good with clk gtr or xbow gt2 but CCGT just eat the amr pro for breakfast
True! They nerfd it sadly
Nick instead of cutting out when you get the 20 points can you keep it in, we like the longer videos
5:38 “it feels slow”, Mr JWW would beg to differ.
Is this the first car to have a wing go down the side like this?
Amazing car 🔥
Damn that sounds good
WHERE THE SENNA GTR AT???
Isnt 436ft-lb crazy low for 900hp ?
And in 2025, an LMDH version will be running in both IMSA and WEC.
Nick is the type of guy who always have a skill issue
Does it have a backflip tune tho👀🤣
The AMR PRO is so much faster in Motorsport, it definitely feels slow in horizon 5 how anticlimactic i suppose being in such an open space with a track monster probably adds to the illusion of it slowness . 🙄
Nick: "regular AM Valkyrie, & AMR Pro version are different cars!"
Regular Valkyrie: *changes its color*
wow! Now I'm convinced how different 2 Valkyries are!
Koenigsegg Jesko Absolut?
If it only had twin turbo option just like standard version of Valkyrie has
OK this car sound better than the LFA
I'm gonna try hard to get it on monday.
I had one and sold it lol it got grabbed immediately
GREAT VID, the car should be x class as standard tho.
May that amount of power doesn’t include the hybrid power
Did anyone notice how Forza made it s2 class? They made it have 800 hp stock instead of 1000
It was about the first thing Nick pointed out...
Still forza didn’t bring back DeTomasso Pantera in “european car upadate”…
of course, race car gets rally suspension, but trucks and suv's don't get drift suspension 😢
I need one cuz i didn't get the chance while it was available (skill issue ik)