Erneut eine wunderbare Aufführung dieser Sinfonie durch das NDR Sinfonieorchester unter der Leitung von Günter Wand! - In meinem Reclam-Konzertführer fand ich gestern zu diesem Werk den Satz: "Insofern ist auch das bekannte Wort Robert Schumanns von den 'himmlischen Längen' (...) nur positiv gemeint: Es sind immer erfüllte Längen, weil sie so eminent logisch und auch konstruktiv ablaufen; allerdings setzen sie sowohl wache Zuhörer voraus wie aufmerksame Musiker , die sich im strukturellen Ablauf der Musik immer genau orientieren können und die Spannung zu halten vermögen." Günter Wand und die NDR Sinfoniker erweisen sich als die aufmerksamsten Musiker: Sie musizieren von der ersten bis zur letzten Sekunde unter Hochspannung und lassen bei mir als Zuhörer zu keiner Zeit den Gedanken an irgendwelche Längen aufkommen. Mit einer lebendigen Phrasierung, genauester Artikulation, rhythmischer Präzision und einer minutiös abgestuften Dynamik decken sie den ganzen Reichtum der Schubertschen Partitur auf, fördern wie selbstverständlich ihre Strukturen zutage, machen harmonische Wendungen hör- und erfahrbar oder horchen den diversen Eintrübungen und Gefährdungen dieser ansonsten eher vordergründig "fröhlich" daherkommenden Musik nach. So entsteht am Ende ein äußerst vielschichtiges Werk, eine Schlüssel-Sinfonie des 19. Jahrhunderts. Dagegen klingen viele andere der hier bei youtube ins Netz gestellten Aufführungen dieser Sinfonie eher wie ein platter, eindimensionaler, oberflächlicher "bunter Melodienreigen".
For anyone who is confused, this symphony is more commonly known in the English-speaking world as No.9 (D944), while No.8 is the Unfinished (B minor, D769) and No.7 is in E major (D729). Of course numbering of Schubert symphonies is always a moot point given the various unperformed and incomplete works and fragments he produced. Hence the need for Deutsch catalogue numbers! What is not in doubt is that the symphony is a masterpiece and that this is a masterful interpretation.
Excellent! Great play with the tempi, very masterful and tasteful use of diverse sonorities. Wand was a really great conductor, his artistic style was a very well balanced mixture of Classic precision and Romantic freedom.
I heard this symphony live with the Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Berlin a few days ago and I don't recognise the work at the moment. The lightness and abysses Wand extracts from the work, the dynamics he develops, are really incredibly exciting, precise and emotionally gripping. Of course, the orchestra was still called something completely different in 1985, but in Hamburg, it seems to me, they're not very particular about naming things.
Honestly after listening dozens of recordings of this symphony in my library only Furtwangler and Solti could achieve the monumental precision and drama Gunter Wand reach with Das NDR Hamburg. One of greatest interpretations of my favorite symphony. 💐💐💐💐
For a long time I could not approach this symphony, it always felt like being overly big in construction, like a big mess of musical ideas. Tried different recordings from several famous conductors, it could not be helped, Schubert's "Great" ended up on my "I dont like" list. Years later I stumbled over Günther Wand's interpretation and for some reason I could not stop listen to it. Suddenly everything was in place, theme development and Schubert's keen construction across all movements started to shine. Something magical had happened, Maestro Wand finally had unlocked this master piece for me. Many thanks for sharing this great musicial gem.
Majestätische und wunderschöne Aufführung dieser romantischen und literarisch großartigen Sinfonie mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt melodisch. Der erfahrene und unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet das damalige ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut betrachteten Tempo und mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Alles ist wunderbar!
Wunderbare Aufführung! It is more correctly called the great C major Symphony (in contrast to No.6 the little C major symphony). "The Great" is a misnomer.
Ein ehemaliges Mitglied der Berliner Philharmoniker erzählte mir mal von einer Probe mit Günter Wand zur "Großen C-dur": "Die Probe dauerte 3 Stunden. Wirklich geprobt wurden höchstens 90 Minuten. Den Rest der Zeit erzählte Günter Wand Witze und Anekdoten aus seiner Laufbahn. Wir konnten am Schluss nicht mehr vor Lachen"😂😂
I recommend listening to Wand's 1995 recording with the Berliner Philharmoniker. Same style but with slightly better orchestra and better accoustics. The sound is softer, rounder and more voluminous, not so harsh as in the overrated Elbphilharmonie (listen to the piercing harsh brass).
I you read carefully this concert was at the Berlin Philharmonie, not in Hamburg, for your knowledge many great musicians have complaints about Philharmonie, even Karajan complained many times about the acoustics @@@!!!
@@IvanHernandez-gx4rt The Berlin Philharmonie has almost the same structure like the Hamburg one (please compare photos of the inner architecture): A niche for the orchestra and plenty of levels that disrupt and even swallow the complexity of the sound. In short: catastrophic. In both halls plenty of people can/have to sit and 'enjoy" the music from behind of the orchestra, which is a perversion in my view. There is a reason that the shoebox structure is considered to be the best for accoustics. The Golden Hall of the Vienna Musikverein or the Boston Symphony Hall are considered to be the best by accustic lovers, not local patriots. There is a concert hall in Berlin that is well known for a very good sound, the Concert Haus with a classical shoe box design. But it seems to be swept under the carpet to not embarrass the younger and more hyped sister.
This has been discussed widely in this channel. There are simply different numbering systems out there. One doesn't include his 7th Symphony, since according to the current Schubert research it was put together by other people using Schubert's sketches. Which then makes the former 9th ("The Great") the 8th.
This has been discussed widely in this channel. There are simply different numbering systems out there. One doesn't include his 7th Symphony, since according to the current Schubert research it was put together by other people using Schubert's sketches. Which then makes the former 9th ("The Great") the 8th.
No longer. As to what *used* to be called No.7: "Although the work (which comprises about 1350 bars) is structurally complete, Schubert only orchestrated the slow introduction and the first 110 bars of the first movement." Less than ten percent of it is the work of Schubert. That is why - several decades ago - it was dropped from the revised catalog of his works. His symphonies are now officially recognized as being eight in number. 🐧 Among others, Herbert Blomstedt and Marek Janowski accept and endorse the new numbering system. 🐧
23:06 ! Am Ende 1992 war Ich noch nur 18 Jahre alt... Solti mit den Wiener Phiharmoniker in meinem Luxman K120 (TDK SA-X)... 5:53 ! das ist wunderbar ! 7:15 !
ヴァントが初めてNHK交響楽団を指揮した1979年。ブルックナー5番とともに強い感銘を与えられたのがシューベルト9番《ザ・グレイト》でした。
スケルツォのトリオ、レントラー舞曲の懐かしい歌が忘れられない。昔々のお話です。
Wand behält die grosse Linie ,arbeitet aber auch die Details heraus. Wunderbar ❤
Грандиозное исполнение моей любимой симфонии Шуберта.G.Wand великолепен!
Happy to hear this!
Erneut eine wunderbare Aufführung dieser Sinfonie durch das NDR Sinfonieorchester unter der Leitung von Günter Wand! -
In meinem Reclam-Konzertführer fand ich gestern zu diesem Werk den Satz:
"Insofern ist auch das bekannte Wort Robert Schumanns von den 'himmlischen Längen' (...) nur positiv gemeint: Es sind immer erfüllte Längen, weil sie so eminent logisch und auch konstruktiv ablaufen; allerdings setzen sie sowohl wache Zuhörer voraus wie aufmerksame Musiker , die sich im strukturellen Ablauf der Musik immer genau orientieren können und die Spannung zu halten vermögen."
Günter Wand und die NDR Sinfoniker erweisen sich als die aufmerksamsten Musiker: Sie musizieren von der ersten bis zur letzten Sekunde unter Hochspannung und lassen bei mir als Zuhörer zu keiner Zeit den Gedanken an irgendwelche Längen aufkommen. Mit einer lebendigen Phrasierung, genauester Artikulation, rhythmischer Präzision und einer minutiös abgestuften Dynamik decken sie den ganzen Reichtum der Schubertschen Partitur auf, fördern wie selbstverständlich ihre Strukturen zutage, machen harmonische Wendungen hör- und erfahrbar oder horchen den diversen Eintrübungen und Gefährdungen dieser ansonsten eher vordergründig "fröhlich" daherkommenden Musik nach.
So entsteht am Ende ein äußerst vielschichtiges Werk, eine Schlüssel-Sinfonie des 19. Jahrhunderts. Dagegen klingen viele andere der hier bei youtube ins Netz gestellten Aufführungen dieser Sinfonie eher wie ein platter, eindimensionaler, oberflächlicher "bunter Melodienreigen".
Das ist hohes Lob - wir danken herzlich!!
For anyone who is confused, this symphony is more commonly known in the English-speaking world as No.9 (D944), while No.8 is the Unfinished (B minor, D769) and No.7 is in E major (D729). Of course numbering of Schubert symphonies is always a moot point given the various unperformed and incomplete works and fragments he produced. Hence the need for Deutsch catalogue numbers! What is not in doubt is that the symphony is a masterpiece and that this is a masterful interpretation.
marvellous to listen at ,Shubert is such a fabulous musician.
30:17 3rd movement | 34:17 dignified success section begins | 36:12 dignified success | 40:52 4th movement |
44:07 magical | 49:52 magical |
This is one of my favorite symphonies, thank you for sharing this splendid version!
Our pleasure! Great to have you with us!
NDR ELBPHILARMONIE ORCHESTRE , MAGNIFIQUE , GÜNTER WAND EXTRAORDINAIRE , SCHUBERT PRODIGUX , A GENIE MERCI PER DU PARTAGE !
Avec plaisir!! Merci à Vous!
Tremendous performance!! Masterfully interpreted and superbly played!! BRAVO!!
High praise, thank you so much!!
Excellent! Great play with the tempi, very masterful and tasteful use of diverse sonorities. Wand was a really great conductor, his artistic style was a very well balanced mixture of Classic precision and Romantic freedom.
Thank you for the kind words about our former Chief Conductor!
I heard this symphony live with the Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Berlin a few days ago and I don't recognise the work at the moment. The lightness and abysses Wand extracts from the work, the dynamics he develops, are really incredibly exciting, precise and emotionally gripping. Of course, the orchestra was still called something completely different in 1985, but in Hamburg, it seems to me, they're not very particular about naming things.
Honestly after listening dozens of recordings of this symphony in my library only Furtwangler and Solti could achieve the monumental precision and drama Gunter Wand reach with Das NDR Hamburg. One of greatest interpretations of my favorite symphony. 💐💐💐💐
We are so happy to hear this!! :) Thank you for the flowers.
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For a long time I could not approach this symphony, it always felt like being overly big in construction, like a big mess of musical ideas. Tried different recordings from several famous conductors, it could not be helped, Schubert's "Great" ended up on my "I dont like" list. Years later I stumbled over Günther Wand's interpretation and for some reason I could not stop listen to it. Suddenly everything was in place, theme development and Schubert's keen construction across all movements started to shine. Something magical had happened, Maestro Wand finally had unlocked this master piece for me.
Many thanks for sharing this great musicial gem.
Majestätische und wunderschöne Aufführung dieser romantischen und literarisch großartigen Sinfonie mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt melodisch. Der erfahrene und unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet das damalige ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut betrachteten Tempo und mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Alles ist wunderbar!
…and some….!
The interpretation is almost Brucknerian in scope.. It feels Schubert is future proofing this composition in 1826!
An excellent foot tapping symphony well played her by the NDR. Gunter Wand must have conducted numerous times but still put his soul into it.
... every single time. Thank you for being with us!
This performance is truly jaw-dropping... Such rare combination of power and beauty, with an unstoppable momentum from beginning to end!
Wunderbare Aufführung! It is more correctly called the great C major Symphony (in contrast to No.6 the little C major symphony). "The Great" is a misnomer.
Thank you! That would be the exact equivalent to the German name than: "Große C-Dur". Will be corrected!
＃ライブ会場映像の魅力、＃オーケストラ、＃楽曲の演奏速度最高です。＃臨場感、＃スイッチャーカメラ割り映像、指揮者は楽譜の音部記号や変化記号や強弱記号、速度記号、1つの音符のみを強調する記号、特定の音符のみを強くしたり弱くしたりする記号を含むニュアンスのアーティキュレーションが素晴らしいですね感動しました。またオーケストラの皆さんの指揮者に対する理解力の演奏はニュアンスのアーティキュレーションが素晴らしく感動しました。第1楽章0:05秒、第2楽章14:18秒、第3楽章30:18秒、第 4楽章40:53秒、また複数のTVカメラ映像の切り替えスイッチャーの映像が素晴らしいですね感動しました。また複数のTVカメラ映像切り替えスイッチャーの譜面や楽譜が読めるスイッチャーの楽器奏者のカメラ割り映像が素晴らしいですね感動しました。オーケストラ編成の変遷は古典派時代の基本配置に似ている。尚カメラ割りのスイッチャーに問題がある感じがします。複数のTVカメラ切り替えスイッチャーのカメラ割り映像に問題があります。コメント中です。
GLORIOUSLY CONDUCTED
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Ein ehemaliges Mitglied der Berliner Philharmoniker erzählte mir mal von einer Probe mit Günter Wand zur "Großen C-dur": "Die Probe dauerte 3 Stunden. Wirklich geprobt wurden höchstens 90 Minuten. Den Rest der Zeit erzählte Günter Wand Witze und Anekdoten aus seiner Laufbahn. Wir konnten am Schluss nicht mehr vor Lachen"😂😂
Was für eine schöne Anekdote über ihn. 😊
Danke für die Korrektur des Tons
Gern geschehen - da ist uns echt einer durchgerutscht ...
Wand My Favorite Maestro
Majestuosa sinfonia
Grossartig!!!
einfach nur wow!
Astonishing performance!❤ (4th time back!)
🥰🥰🥰 Awesome!!
Very nice and beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you - much appreciated! 🥰 🥰 🥰
Danke! 2000年11月のヴァント指揮ＮＤＲの最後の日本公演を聴いた感動を思い出します。
Our pleasure!! :))
So beautiful! 🎶💙 Thank you so much for sharing it! 🤗
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34:10 ESPETACULAR!!! MEU TRECHO PREFERIDO!!! BRAVO!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Bellissima esecuzione
Mille grazie! :)
Stereo Aufnahme diesmal ! :-) :-) :-)
Yes!!! :)))
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Maravilhoso.
Thanks for sharing 🎶🎶
Our pleasure!!
I recommend listening to Wand's 1995 recording with the Berliner Philharmoniker. Same style but with slightly better orchestra and better accoustics. The sound is softer, rounder and more voluminous, not so harsh as in the overrated Elbphilharmonie (listen to the piercing harsh brass).
I you read carefully this concert was at the Berlin Philharmonie, not in Hamburg, for your knowledge many great musicians have complaints about Philharmonie, even Karajan complained many times about the acoustics @@@!!!
@@IvanHernandez-gx4rt The Berlin Philharmonie has almost the same structure like the Hamburg one (please compare photos of the inner architecture): A niche for the orchestra and plenty of levels that disrupt and even swallow the complexity of the sound. In short: catastrophic. In both halls plenty of people can/have to sit and 'enjoy" the music from behind of the orchestra, which is a perversion in my view.
There is a reason that the shoebox structure is considered to be the best for accoustics. The Golden Hall of the Vienna Musikverein or the Boston Symphony Hall are considered to be the best by accustic lovers, not local patriots.
There is a concert hall in Berlin that is well known for a very good sound, the Concert Haus with a classical shoe box design. But it seems to be swept under the carpet to not embarrass the younger and more hyped sister.
love this video
Happy to hear that!!
多くの此の曲の演奏を聴いてきた。大好きな曲なので。此の演奏は素晴らしい。ライヴ録音では此の演奏を超えるものを知らない。スタヂオ録音を含めると、Szell/cleveland のみが此れを超えるだろう。第２楽章の内声部の処理がポイントになる。それにしても、Wand/NDRの音は何と美しいことだろう。
Thank you, we are happy that you enjoyed it!!
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This is Symphony #9 not 8
This has been discussed widely in this channel. There are simply different numbering systems out there. One doesn't include his 7th Symphony, since according to the current Schubert research it was put together by other people using Schubert's sketches. Which then makes the former 9th ("The Great") the 8th.
It's the 9th...8th is the Unfinished
This has been discussed widely in this channel. There are simply different numbering systems out there. One doesn't include his 7th Symphony, since according to the current Schubert research it was put together by other people using Schubert's sketches. Which then makes the former 9th ("The Great") the 8th.
No longer. As to what *used* to be called No.7:
"Although the work (which comprises about 1350 bars) is structurally complete, Schubert only orchestrated the slow introduction and the first 110 bars of the first movement."
Less than ten percent of it is the work of Schubert. That is why - several decades ago - it was dropped from the revised catalog of his works. His symphonies are now officially recognized as being eight in number. 🐧
Among others, Herbert Blomstedt and Marek Janowski accept and endorse the new numbering system. 🐧
Always knew it as ‘the Great C Major’…😊
23:06 ! Am Ende 1992 war Ich noch nur 18 Jahre alt... Solti mit den Wiener Phiharmoniker in meinem Luxman K120 (TDK SA-X)... 5:53 ! das ist wunderbar ! 7:15 !
Das freut uns!! Danke sehr!