thanks for the comments guys, she is a tough old game but we all love it, good to be able to exchange a few ideas using videos and face book. all the best, JM
thanks for the video mate! im 22 just out of my apprenticeship and don't get told about anyone this stuff. very insightful looking forward to more videos!
It will be a trade of the past, no young guys are going into it compared to years ago, a salesman with a local company told me he was on a job in Belfast with 14 bricklayers on it and the youngest bricklayer was 48!!
Good video mate. I'm a brickie from Sydney, and as you probably know the housing industry is booming over here. The average rate per brick we get is around $1.50 singles and $1.80 for double storeys (face brick). laying anything over 500 bricks per brickie a day I cant see happening especially on the cottage homes with windows, ins and outs, piers and sills . if so then I can guarantee their is no quality there. I have seen so many times brick work getting pulled down and rectified because of poor quality.
Put the brickies on price work and get them to supply their own labour. Be upfront on pricing and be dead straight on quality. If you organise your site correctly and efficiently you as the contractor and your subcontractors(brickies and labour's)will make money.
Goodaye mate. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I have just set up on own and will help me out for sure. Subscribed from a fellow bricklayer UK. Take care my friend 👍🇬🇧⚒
Dont forget public liability insurance per man also. Then there is the administrative costs such as bookkeeper, accountant. Its great JM has pointed out the "cost of employing" people. Have a good conversation with your accountant and have your running costs laid out for you by your bookkeeper. Then have the accountant show the costs of running a PTY LTD and the associated compliance costs. You can run a simple registered business but your assets are exposed. Why would you go to work for five years to have nothing at the end? Perth is horrible for this but the ATO is finished its tax reform transition period. PS. If you are a registered business, your builder covers you (the boss) for workers comp (Covers hospital bills), but you usually have to have an accident and sickness cover policy for yourself (75% of your average wage usually inthe event of an accident) Read the policy as this wage cover usually only lasts less than a year. If "you are a bricklayer employing a bricklayer"; no matter they be ABN or TFN then you must have a workers compensation policy for all those under you and in most cases. You must have public liability for them and pay their superannuation. If you have doubts, speak to your accountant, do an online subcontrator test at the ATO, or ring the Australian Tax Office with your queries. Don't be one the hundreds of bricklayers that walk away with nothing. Don't forget that the figure given above, is a bricklayer that must earn that everyday for 46 weeks a year which is a standard wage earning year. You will come across days where you have "hold ups". Four men held up an hour is four hours gone. Four hours you must make up.
its good to see some realism brought in to this game, I've been bricklaying for 16 years in Perth 8th gen brickie, consider myself very fast as other guys would, but too many Tafes are selling this game to young guys lay 1000 a day @$2 a brick do you guys have 2c face blocks over there?
Ask your accountant how much you should make per hour per man before you start a brickie gang. "Gross profit" is how much your revenue is each day for the whole team. Net profit is how much you earn after paying everything including your own wage. "Net profit" is the money you earn after 'everything' is paid inclusive your wages. A normal working year is 46 weeks at 5 days = 230days per year at 450 exGST = $103500 gross profit per man per year in 46 weeks. Labourers the same rate. If you are not making that as gross profit per year, any hold ups and you are heading into financial trouble at some point. Standard commercial per man is around >= $70 exGST p/h per man. Most Perth residential bricklayers employing people are going bankrupt slowly without knowing it or when the ATO catches them.
Greetings from Cowtown Texas... Y'All's damn frogs ribbit's are a bout as loud & as threatinin' as one of them Rapper's Pit Bulls. Reckon that's what keeps them Croc's at bay. aye? Got into it with an Arab builder back in 1977, over the price we had agreed on for the home's veneer, entry & widow arches, 45 degree heirring bone panels, quoins corners, & chimney flares. Turned in a money draw the end of the first's week work... and he begin to bargan for a lower rate per brick & extras for the next draw. That's what formulated the following fact... as i began to explain to him that... ''No material is touch and adjusted more by the human hand... Than that of the lowly brick! Hell even Nebuchadnezzer knew that!'' -former bricklayer, now brick-lier 'Rock' 123117
If you are not making $70 exGST an hour per man, you are probably going to come a cropper at some stage. GST is not your money. It is the customers tax you collect to give to the Australian Tax Office. Put your GST in another bank account so you do not touch it. GST is a federal tax which is a federal crime. You are stealing from the federal reserve and you will go to prison. I see most blokes take a job out of the building industry where they pay off the GST and the associated "high interest" loan as a personal loan. We dont hear about these guys disappearing into the abyss. They leave the construction industry because they cannot afford to stay.
Hi guys, does anyone know what qualifications mandatory required before start starting a bricklaying business( please note that Im planning to run the business on behalf of someone else , so my job would be more on the managing side of it such as doing all the adminstrative work behind, dealing with builders, contractors, or on residental areas just giving quote etc.. Please let me know if anyone knows about it, it would be much appreciated
I don't want to sound ignorant, but what's the reason to expect only 400-600 brick a day? Maybe it's different in Australia but in Texas they want 800-1000 a day, thanks
W The whole reason I left Adelaide and came to Sydney $350 a day. Adelaide has nothing going for it as far as the eye can see it is houses going up do your self a favour and forget Adelaide!!!
thanks for the comments guys, she is a tough old game but we all love it, good to be able to exchange a few ideas using videos and face book. all the best, JM
thanks for the video mate! im 22 just out of my apprenticeship and don't get told about anyone this stuff. very insightful looking forward to more videos!
Richyyy Rich thanks richy
Great vid mate! Sydney brickie here. I totally agree with everything you said!
It will be a trade of the past, no young guys are going into it compared to years ago, a salesman with a local company told me he was on a job in Belfast with 14 bricklayers on it and the youngest bricklayer was 48!!
Also didn't know Chris Cristofferson was a brickie!
Your 100% correct You can't beat experience.
Good video mate. I'm a brickie from Sydney, and as you probably know the housing industry is booming over here. The average rate per brick we get is around $1.50 singles and $1.80 for double storeys (face brick). laying anything over 500 bricks per brickie a day I cant see happening especially on the cottage homes with windows, ins and outs, piers and sills . if so then I can guarantee their is no quality there. I have seen so many times brick work getting pulled down and rectified because of poor quality.
George Awad how many more years would you say in sydney the bricklaying industry is going to be booming for?
In yorkshire good bricked can wall 1200 a day average brickies 800.
All pointed and neat.
@@r3d3y3si only on a good well organised site though ah pal
@@lukehall3035 that's on private jobs
Excellent video,refreshingly honest. Cheers from Connecticut
This confirms everything I’ve suspected, Great vid
Put the brickies on price work and get them to supply their own labour. Be upfront on pricing and be dead straight on quality. If you organise your site correctly and efficiently you as the contractor and your subcontractors(brickies and labour's)will make money.
Exactly m8 plus have them work to the British nhbc standard win win
Great near same with most trades extra costs to run the show ,and the clients say ,ohh your a bit dearer than the handyman Harry ,great explaining
Good video buddy...I'm British but have worked in Oz..
talking finances over here is generally cloak and dagger stuff ...looking forward to next video
Thank you for your advices like you say brickies like to keep they little secrets for them self so I find this video very helpful.
Goodaye mate. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I have just set up on own and will help me out for sure. Subscribed from a fellow bricklayer UK. Take care my friend 👍🇬🇧⚒
Dont forget public liability insurance per man also. Then there is the administrative costs such as bookkeeper, accountant. Its great JM has pointed out the "cost of employing" people. Have a good conversation with your accountant and have your running costs laid out for you by your bookkeeper. Then have the accountant show the costs of running a PTY LTD and the associated compliance costs.
You can run a simple registered business but your assets are exposed. Why would you go to work for five years to have nothing at the end? Perth is horrible for this but the ATO is finished its tax reform transition period.
PS. If you are a registered business, your builder covers you (the boss) for workers comp (Covers hospital bills), but you usually have to have an accident and sickness cover policy for yourself (75% of your average wage usually inthe event of an accident) Read the policy as this wage cover usually only lasts less than a year.
If "you are a bricklayer employing a bricklayer"; no matter they be ABN or TFN then you must have a workers compensation policy for all those under you and in most cases. You must have public liability for them and pay their superannuation.
If you have doubts, speak to your accountant, do an online subcontrator test at the ATO, or ring the Australian Tax Office with your queries. Don't be one the hundreds of bricklayers that walk away with nothing. Don't forget that the figure given above, is a bricklayer that must earn that everyday for 46 weeks a year which is a standard wage earning year. You will come across days where you have "hold ups". Four men held up an hour is four hours gone. Four hours you must make up.
Spot on mate but workers comp super an tax in Sydney a bit more than that😞
its good to see some realism brought in to this game, I've been bricklaying for 16 years in Perth 8th gen brickie, consider myself very fast as other guys would, but too many Tafes are selling this game to young guys lay 1000 a day @$2 a brick
do you guys have 2c face blocks over there?
Ask your accountant how much you should make per hour per man before you start a brickie gang. "Gross profit" is how much your revenue is each day for the whole team. Net profit is how much you earn after paying everything including your own wage. "Net profit" is the money you earn after 'everything' is paid inclusive your wages.
A normal working year is 46 weeks at 5 days = 230days per year at 450 exGST = $103500 gross profit per man per year in 46 weeks. Labourers the same rate.
If you are not making that as gross profit per year, any hold ups and you are heading into financial trouble at some point.
Standard commercial per man is around >= $70 exGST p/h per man. Most Perth residential bricklayers employing people are going bankrupt slowly without knowing it or when the ATO catches them.
Australia, Victoria is the state I live in, I know it varies state to state
Really good video 🤙
Great advice.
Greetings from Cowtown Texas... Y'All's damn frogs ribbit's are a bout as loud & as threatinin' as one of them Rapper's Pit Bulls. Reckon that's what keeps them Croc's at bay. aye?
Got into it with an Arab builder back in 1977, over the price we had agreed on for the home's veneer, entry & widow arches, 45 degree heirring bone panels, quoins corners, & chimney flares. Turned in a money draw the end of the first's week work... and he begin to bargan for a lower rate per brick & extras for the next draw. That's what formulated the following fact... as i began to explain to him that...
''No material is touch and adjusted more by the human hand...
Than that of the lowly brick! Hell even Nebuchadnezzer knew that!''
-former bricklayer, now brick-lier 'Rock' 123117
Interesting in this job i am Indian i am working for our country
good informative video mate
If you are not making $70 exGST an hour per man, you are probably going to come a cropper at some stage. GST is not your money. It is the customers tax you collect to give to the Australian Tax Office. Put your GST in another bank account so you do not touch it. GST is a federal tax which is a federal crime. You are stealing from the federal reserve and you will go to prison.
I see most blokes take a job out of the building industry where they pay off the GST and the associated "high interest" loan as a personal loan. We dont hear about these guys disappearing into the abyss. They leave the construction industry because they cannot afford to stay.
Hi guys, does anyone know what qualifications mandatory required before start starting a bricklaying business( please note that Im planning to run the business on behalf of someone else , so my job would be more on the managing side of it such as doing all the adminstrative work behind, dealing with builders, contractors, or on residental areas just giving quote etc..
Please let me know if anyone knows about it, it would be much appreciated
I don't want to sound ignorant, but what's the reason to expect only 400-600 brick a day?
Maybe it's different in Australia but in Texas they want 800-1000 a day, thanks
do you install doors/windows/setout the job?
There no way there doing a good job doing 1200 bricks a day
We butter our bricks lol
In SA brickies are getting 30-35 per hour on ABN. Criminal.
W
The whole reason I left Adelaide and came to Sydney $350 a day. Adelaide has nothing going for it as far as the eye can see it is houses going up do your self a favour and forget Adelaide!!!
bearsbest friend ...hello chief I was in Adelaide in 2011 laying bricks and it was dead then ...I presume that's still the case ?
And perth