NEW Microsoft Surface Pro 8 Review
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0:00 Intro
1:11 Design Tour: Magnets!
5:00 Speaker Test
7:30 Camera Test
8:30 Keyboard Test Results
9:30 Slim Pen Test Results
Surface Pro 8 by Microsoft
A 2-in-1 that actually works as one of the best tablets and one of the best laptops, all in 1
DESIGN
Carbon fiber keyboard is stiffer
Removable SSD like pro X
Two USB-C Thunderbolt 4 ports
And a headphone jack
Battery life is 7-8 hrs (meh)
DISPLAY
New display has thinner bezels and a 2880 x 1920 display
13” display is almost an inch bigger than before
120Hz!! (may be dynamic eventually)
There are still bezels, but they are not bad (hidden and grippable)
CAMERA TEST
The dual far field microphones
5MP front facing 1080p
rear camera shoots 4k
PEN
has a haptic motor
You can feel the haptics in some apps but not others. It is clearly something being added into Windows afterwards.
Different handwriting fields for different apps
Never just allowed to write in text boxes
Haptics work in mouse navigation
Haptics work in snips and handwriting
Haptics DO NOT work in whiteboard… which is a shortcut on the pen
Easily charged in the case
Slim but easy to hold and comfortable
Erase with the back in an intuitive fashion
KEYBOARD (sound)
INTERNALS
Intel i7 11th gen G series chip is fast
Geekbench score: 19498 (beats Galaxy Book Pro 360)
16GB RAM
Windows 11 feels more like it was meant for a 2-in-1 and this is the most powerful and well executed 2-in-1 on the market. This is a laptop first, tablet second but I think that is a good thing.
Not a ton of heat from my use, but the heat it does produce stays off your lap (nice!) thanks to this keyboard design
It does have a fan! - very quiet from my experience
CONFUSING CHOICES:
Expensive - why sell without the keyboard cover??
Why bother having a nice camera on the back? Maybe to record your own lectures for students? But it is an awkward angle for any video (it makes sense for document scanning though)
Please comment below with any questions you might have. Thank you all for watching! I appreciate you!
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Hi friends. Thanks for watching! What are your thoughts on this one?
120hz all the things
more hype for windows 11
Sleek 2 in 1 device
Mike how about the Samsung Tablet S7+ vs. IPad ProM1... OLED vs LCD.. 😎
you blew past the pen review for artists..... that's what i think ;)
Ever since Microsoft released the Surface Pro line, I've always wanted to have one & this looks like the best one so far. I just wish they included the keyboard with the price.😪
$1600 is still too much. I say the Galaxy S7 FE us better for 90% of this device's use cases. Plus it has better battery.
@@gurubhaktmohit SP8 can use desktop apps, while Samsung is an android tablet… so why not just get an iPad in that case?
@@s.z.x.01 My guess is an iPad Air and Pro costs more, and maybe Android preference
But you do get to choose what color keyboard you want instead of being stuck with a generic pick.
Lenovo's X12 Tablet (windows) is like the Surface Pro but you can pick it up starting at $1050 when on sale which includes keyboard, pen and warranty out of the box.
X12 is also 11th Gen Intel so I'd strongly recommend it. Surface is priced high because they market to businesses primarily.
The attention yo detail with the background (and setting otherwise) is much appreciated.
I've had the surface pro 5 since fall 2017 for college (degree and master). In my opinion surface pro line saves you from owning a tablet and a laptop, because it can do both. It's great for taking notes in class and for working in MS office while getting all the functionalities of a windows PC. Surface pro 8 fixes the old design and better specs, I'm sure it is a great device! Nice video :)
Enjoying this content on my 2018 Surface. Reinstalled Windows 10 PRO. Good To Go . Just like NEW!
This was an absolutely brilliant review. Your points were clear and I agree with everything you said. It really is the best 2-in-1 device you can get.
I can’t wait for the comparison video and I hope there’s a Surface Laptop Studio review coming soon ;)
I can see this as a great product for students! At my uni, I see tons of people with the Macbook + iPad + Apple Pencil setup for general tasks on the Macbook and note-taking with the iPad + Apple Pencil. The SP8 seems to combine all that into one package, with compromises of course
Yes its a great combo for student, for greater extensibility, you can have those portable external monitor connect to it and have sp8 for note taking.
Question is, how are students going to able to afford a brand new PC that _starts_ at $1650? Surface is aimed at large Businesses who bulk buy these devices as a tax write-off which is why they are so expensive.
@@mini9503 The same way they can afford a $1000+ MacBook, $500+ iPad, and $200 apple pencil, which is what they're literally using at his school now if you read his whole comment.
@@mini9503 most students I know don't buy them at once. I got my ipad in high school then my parents bought me my laptop as a college gift.
@@mini9503 Where do you keep getting this notion that most college students are paying for things solely out of their pocket lol? The vast majority of college students have their parents either helping them or just buying everything for them their freshman year.
I'm definitely buying one once the prices go down a little. Been using the surface pro 4 for nearly 5 years now and haven't regretted the purchase in the slightest.
The haptic feedback (at least after an update that I noticed) depends on the pressure you put on the tablet using the Pen. The harder you push down the more you can feel the vibrations, also can feel it a lot more using the eraser.
Best review I have seen of the MS Surface Pro 8 so far, nice in depth video talking about pros and cons and what you're going to get for your money. Definitely looking into picking it up for university as I need to both draw stuff as well as take a lot of notes, I have been waiting for this thing forever as the Pro 7 was kind of disappointing!
So glad you liked the video!
You are one of my fav tech youtuber. I really hope you are planning to get surface duo 2 and will do a proper review on it :) .
Really looking forward to getting the new surface pro 8. Currently running a surface pro 5 for last 4 years. It has never missed a beat. Agree with the other comments keyboard and now pen should be standard at this price point.
This was, in my opinion, the best review you have done. And I am excited for the comparison video of samsung, apple and surface tabs!
Mike...great video review!
How about a more in-depth game testing? Emulation, perhaps?
I really think for the working professionals like Architects, or Civil Engineers, who often visit client sites, and have to refer to drawings on the go, this is an easy pop out and pop in option. It's powerful enough to support Revit or SketchUp, or Lumion on the cloud front. Sweet spot between UX and power.
I bought it, love it! I was considering the HP Specter which I really liked as well for a light weight laptop, I'm satisfied with my decision.
Yes, we definitely need a comparison video, with this vs iPad vs Samsung tab !
The expandable storage is really surprising! These types of devices usually don't provide that option and will charge you an extra $200 to upgrade you to a higher storage capacity. So good on them for including that.
They charge much more than $200!
Next problem: find a fast and cheap 2230 SSD
Great review! Bit late to the party here. .almost bought the SP9 but after watching reviews ended up getting the SP8.. got it on Amazon renewed for $645 for the i5/8gb/256gb, added a renewed keyboard/pen2 for $150 so under $800 total. After watching your review.. definitely feels like a great deal.
The nicest review on surface pro 8 I've ever seen 👍
Great review, waiting for mine to be delivered today. On Jan 11 2022, the released it with LTE and that's the model I ordered. Hope it's not a lemon... lol 😆
I have just recently bought the Pro 8, I find it very useful and heaps of power, but I did find the touch screen at little unresponsive at times.
Hi Mike, thank you very much for your review. It helped me a lot to get closer to a decision … But, I am still not sure what matches my needs better, the Surface Pro 8 or the Surface book 3 … I am often travelling long distance, and I use a device for all purpose, what means for online banking, Microsoft office and a focus on video editing … what do you think might be the better choice?
Listed my ipad pro on ebay, and as soon as that sells, I’m buying the pro 8. Can’t wait.
For me as a student, the pro 8 is probably the better device as I see myself taking writing on the tablet with the pen during the lecture und the studio doesn’t seem to be made for this scenario. However, the Studio just looks so much more elegant with its keyboard to me. Furthermore the screen is bigger which could be important for reading e books while taking notes on an tab simultaneously and is just 200€ more expensive. What should I do?
Have any changes been made to the magic keyboard with slim pen2 to protect alacantra fabric from peeling at the edges of the keyboard?
Hey Mike will you be doing a review on the new soundcore liberty 3 pro?
Like a tablet, I think that you need to have a specific work flow to really need this kind of device. Usually this kind of device will be use with a specific app that you already need and is a part of you work flow
Can you do a video on what display can work on a surface, also is windows 11 home is the only version you can have on the surface I kinda want windows 11 Pro on the surface
Many thanks for the video. The fact that it can run all my Windows apps is the only reason why I'm planning to buy this "tablet".
I have the 5th gen Surface Pro and love it, but I think this one will be my next upgrade. :)
Awesome review - thx
Great revue .. thanks 🙃
Thank you so much for this. I'm a graphic artist and I realize I only like tablet pc's. I have a Galaxy Book pro tablet that I love, but had to retire b/c Adobe InD currently won't work w/ARM processors. Any word if Samsung is coming out w/new 2n1's?
Great video. Thanks. I do love the SP8. I do want one, but the price puts me off unfortunately. If the keyboard/pen was included in the price then I would definitely go for it.
+1 - price for sure is stupid expensive compared to apple.
Brilliant...thanks Mike
SP8 is more like 3-in1 when you count in the ability to use eGPU. You can turn this device into a desktop gaming powerhouse too. The versatility is just insane!
I am a software developer and use a high end desktop for work. I hate laptops as they are not really portable devices, but do like tablets for casual web browsing etc. I recently bought the same model as you and have paired it with a thunderbolt 4 hub connected to dual monitors, a real keyboard and mouse and a few peripherals for a desk top replacement and it is more than capable. The fact I can unplug the dock, pick the device up and have it truly portable with all my stuff on it is miraculous frankly. It is close to the perfect every day device for work and down time watching movies, web browsing and light sofa based gaming.
Sweet to hear! I ordered the i7 16GB/256GB model yesterday also for programming (and image editing, graphics design and maybe occasional video editing, nothing big or fancy), it's going to replace my older Macbook Pro and Windows desktop. I hope it's powerful enough to run the software I need. Graphics are not quite at the level of my desktop even though I'm running older GTX 970, so not expecting to game with it (not unless I get eGPU down the road).
BUT if it can run all the productivity software I need to, I'm selling both the desktop and Macbook. Can't wait to test it out!
Hello Mike, could you recommend where I can buy the replacement 128GB storage please? What brand shall I go for?
Can you get 32 or 64 gm ram in it? Is it swappable? I am into machine learning and hacking studies now… I love to have just a screen with a computer inside that I can connect my mechanic keyboard to and program on all day!
Hi Mike, thanks for the review. I'm current using the older Surface Pro 5, and am thinking of upgrading to either the Pro 7 or waiting for th Pro 8 to be release in my country. Would like to see a comparison between Pro 7 and this Pro 8, if possible. One reason that holding me back is the support for the SD card, as mentioned in your video. Thanks.
Keep in mind that unfortunately the keyboard is not compatible between surface pro prior to 8 and surface pro 8 (it has surface pro x connector). For that and the pen I'm actually considering getting surface pro 7+ to upgrade from my surface pro 4 as the only thing that I'd like to improve is the performance and also my display is slowly dying.
Great video as usual. Off topic question how can I activate EKG on My Galaxy Watch 3 with my IPhone. I don’t want to carry 2 phones anymore I just connect Apple Watch 6 and Galaxy Watch 3 to my iPhone. ??? Thanks sincerely Espionage
This thing is so good and something that I've been waiting for Microsoft to update its design ever since the launch of Pro X last 2 years ago but that price tho, and the cost to add the type keyboard cover 🥲
I know this is directly rival to iPad Pro but really hope you could compare this against MacBook Air as well because I'm currently shortlisted that and this Pro 8 as my next computer, not to mention this also compete against many slim laptops too, so the comparison is still relevant imo ...
No one interested in a Surface Pro 8 would ever consider a MBA. No touchscreen, no pen support, no 2-in-1 design, no detechable keyboard, no kickstand, no face recognition, no upgradability, etc. And let's not forget all the class-action lawsuit field against MBs: 2021 crackec screen, 2020 green screen, 2019 connectivity, 2018 keyboard, 2017 thermal throttling. And that is just in the last 5 years!
This thing really blows away anything Apple makes at this point... You'd have to buy a MPA 13 and an iPad Pro to get all the functionality. It's got touch, pen input and detachable slate that the MPA doesn't have any it's got a full OS that iPad doesn't have
I've just bought a Surface Pro 7 with an I5 CPU, 8 GB RAM and 128 GB "HD". And yes I would very much like the Pro 8 but I'll have to wait till it gets cheaper. Luckily I could reuse the keyboard and the pen from my older Surface Pro with an M3 CPU.
Great device, I have had the surface pro 6. Happy with line. Where did you get your blue tee shirt?
I own the Surface Pro 7+ with an i7. Got it last year. Great video, but I’m not convinced to upgrade.
Good review 👍👍
Hi Mike, it would be great if you could do a full comparison between Microsoft Surface Pro 8 and Samsung Galaxy Book Pro 360
That’s an interesting idea!
i just wanna know if this can fully replace a windows laptop and if i can play some pc games with the surface pro line.
Which is better Pro 8 or the Asus Flip S? Also, can I replace the Pro 8 ssd with my 2 TB Samsung SSD in the removable slot... Will android apps be added later to the Pro 8? Can the pen be padded up with a sheath or cover to give a round shape? Also, will they be bringing in a Pro 9 with a 12 Gen I7? Thanks folks, for your valued feedback. Thank you Mike, very very helpful as always...
I've just ordered a Surface Pro 8 (i5 --> because of battery life and almost same performance --> after watching quite a few reviews, 256GB and 16 GB RAM) with keyboard and pen for 1488 USD (I live in Switzerland, I paid 1376.40 CHF), so I'd say for that price with everything included I got a very good deal compared to the prices I've heard in many reviews. Looking forward to receive it and check it out 🙂
Typed this from my Surface Pro 7 (i3, 4GB RAM), which is still a very nice device, but only for basic productivity work.
Cheers and thanks for the nice review!
And how is battery?my surface pro 8 i5,16gb,256gb only 5,5 hours battery on light using on 60 hz,44% brightness
The fact that you can finally use a surface with a external GPU is good I may get one next year
I had a Surface Pro 7. Think of it as a laptop 1st that can do some tablet things. An iPad or Android tablet imo feels like a tablet 1st that can do some laptop things. I personally didn't use the pen that much on my Surface and eventually sold it and bought a 2 in 1 laptop. Works better for what I do. If I was an artist or heavy pen user the Surface would have been great. Pricey but watch for deals that include the keyboard.
I am falling in love with this one ;)!!!!!
I own the Surface Pro 7+ and I will recommend anyone who is in the market for the latest hybrid laptop to get the Surface Pro 8. It's the best hybrid laptop you will find on the market right now.
Does it get hot when doing heavy graphics or Zoom meetings? i7 fan goes crazy on the pro 7 and heats up
I'm considering to get SP8 i5 8GB RAM & 256GB SSD for my moderate usage (sometime I use lightroom and photoshop) . I already have notebook i7 with 16 GB RAM for my daily office works and will use the SP8 as the companion of this notebook . Is i5 with 8RAM good decision for the long run? thanks
My dream laptop tablet....black one ofcourse
0:41 I came to ask this question. Will it run Photoshop desktop version ,Video editing 🤔.
I bought an M1 iPad Pro 11" with keyboard and stylus. It's very compact and mobile. Looks great. Functions well. But as a productivity tool it's very frustrating to use. Multi-tasking is annoying with the forced swipe function. Widgets are limited. Stylus 2 is not that intuitive although good, and 11" real estate is limited for taking notes. Thinking of trading for Surface Pro 8.
can you upgrade to the 12.9' (trade in or something) or take back.
How has it improved from their first product years ago? It looks pretty much the same except for the pen holder (which does get lost all the time).
so they removed the sd card from the back? under the kickstand?
Does anyone use vlc media player on theirs? Or play movies on the TV using a hdmi?
I agree that the price is high but there is nothing like this in the market, I mean Microsoft nailed it with this iteration, you are getting a full blown OS which is Windows 11 that you can use with attached keyboard when you want to get work done in laptop mode and when you are on the couch it can be used in a tablet mode using the the stylus. Arrival of Android apps in Windows 11 is icing on top of the cake.
the question is, can i charge it using type c port , like in the car i charge it using my car cigarette phone charger
Are you going to do a Surface Laptop Studio review? Thanks.
what's the deal with the watches in the reflection @ 3:31?
Good info
Can you make review about software Autocad or photoshop app on surface pro 8!! 🥺
Hey man - I’m a masters student about to start writing my thesis and I’m looking for a device I can research on, take notes, write the paper itself etc - would you recommend this or the new Surface Laptop Studio? I’m currently using a 2017 MBP & 2018 iPad Pro but I want to just use one device :) Thanks for the vid!
Go for surface laptop studio
Surprised there is no SD card slot, because there is one on the Surface Pro 7. Then again, maybe it is less needed because the memory is expandable, which has not been the case on previous models.
What kind of battery life can you expect if you switch from 120hz to 60hz?
Owned a sp4 and sb2 but my issue with the surface line is despite the pens having way more features compared to others like an eraser buttons and now haptic feedback the writing experience has always just felt so bad compared to Samsung and Apple
Is the SP8 display bigger than the SP3?
The best feature on Surface Pro 8 is the Thunderbolt port. So you can use an external video card 👍
never understood why they compared it to the tab s7 and not the standard tab s8 considering it was out by then
how much useable storage left on 128gb?
I previously ordered mine already, I wish 1tb came in black
I was thinking about buying the Spectre 14 oled, but now with this sp8 i dont no what to choose. What do you think is the best choice? Thank you.
Sp8
👍Good review. Thank you. 💝
😫I have loved the Surface Pros until now….No SDCard slot and no USB slot 😫 Why do these companies discontinue options that work?😖😫
No SDCard slot is a bummer. Not only do creative professionals actually use (full sized) SD cards, but the slot would be nice to have for expandable storage too. :/ Oh well, at least the SSD can be swapped out. I went with the i7 16GB/256GB model and planning on swapping the SSD for 1TB one. Saves me 400 bucks of MS tax doing it myself.
@@PhazonBlaxoryour new i7, that’s a good idea to save money by switching the SSD yourself 💖
I like you. A trusting person!
is there any reason to switch from 7 Pro?
Can to edit 4K 10bit video editing on SP8?
I'm very disappointed that it doesn't have a micro SD slot. Why on earth not when the Surface Go does? Sure, you can replace the SSD storage but that's going to be way more expensive than a SD card and not as convenient to do. Puzzled that MS don't go all out with a killer value premium Pro device and wrap up the market for Windows devices. Do they not want to upset the other suppliers? Or do they not want to damage their super premium - which means really super expensive - cachet?
I'm happy with my old Surface Go 1 and going to continue to look out for a cheaper but more capable and bigger Windows 2 in 1 - maybe a HP Spectre, a Dell, Lenovo or Asus? Anyone have any suggestions of a competitive alternative to this beautiful Surface Pro 8?
Thanks again Mike for another really professional and useful video review. You are certainly raising the standards for tech reviews on RUclips!
The stiff stylus button is probably because of the eraser feature. If it weren't stiff, it would depress when people went to erase. Neither the Apple nor Samsung have buttons on the ends at all (at least not on my 2018 Pro 12.9 or S7+).
Is it better than ipad for note taking and handwriting?
Does the fan constantly rev up
I have surface pro 4 and This is the suitable upgrade i wished for all the previous years. Its too late now where the ultrabook competition is relatively strong and many would find more suitable and affordable better 2 in ones / Tablets
Will the surface pro 8 base model be sufficient enough for an incredible one note digital note taking experience.. I only want the device for digital note taking and nothing else..
yes, it will be more than enough for just OneNote... OneNote runs on pretty much every toaster.
You know there are digital notetaking devices such as e-readers, correct?
Tablets are optimum for note taking though, this is a multi functional / purpose device
Great review, Mike!
I think you touched on the problem with laptop-tablet hybrids: The standalone products work better at what they're for, and the added expense of combining them together just isn't justified. If what you want is a decent laptop and a decent tablet, you could probably get those separately and pay less than you would for this. At best, this is for a very specific use case where you need to do tablet things and laptop things at virtually the same time.
But in my eyes, this isn't even really a hybrid. It's a tablet. It's Windows 11 running on a tablet. The only way I could see justifying calling this an actual laptop/tablet hybrid is if the keyboard came *with it*.
i dont even see this as a tablet honestly. i see it as a low spec laptop. you can get the same use from the asus 13" gaming laptop that is cheaper and you get better specs. has a touchscreen and comes with the keyboard as its a laptop and the keyboard folds behind if you want to hold it like a tablet. what i like is that the screen is seperate. so you get a bit better cooling. and if it gets hot like this sp8 does, its just with the keyboard and components but not the screen were as this sp8 if it gets hot is everything.
@@dannamanna99 I can't really justify calling it a laptop when it doesn't come with a keyboard.
@@BrianHartman i dont justity it as a tablet either. yeah, it does not come with a keyboard. but it also does not have its own tablet style OS. with adding a keyboard, (which you can buy and plug one in with a usb c adaptor). it acts more like a low end laptop. if it had a lot more tablet futures like games that would work on it like a tablet then sure. without a keyboard, its still feels like a laptop using the touchscreen. like i mentioned, i have a asus gaming laptop that cost less, has a touchscreen and built in keyboard. this feels the same as my asus if i am using it without the keyboard. but my asus can do a lot more as it has better specs. which is sad as it cost less.
Did you test the computer's battery with the refresh rate turned down to 60hz? I wonder if that makes and significant difference.
It definitely makes a difference. At least until Microsoft comes out with some kind of adaptive 120Hz
@@MikeOBrienMedia awesome thanks.
It would be really great if you could compare the writing experience with the pen in Surface Pro 8 to the one in IPad Pro M1.
They got rid of the sd slot!!! Dang im constant switching from my phone to tablet. Its not a deal breaker might have to get used to that
interesting... I haven't seen the pen included with the keyboard yet.
How good is this system for 4K editing
I have been using Pro 4 since it was launched, apart from its advantages discussed, I hope MS has taken care of screen flickering issues after prolonged usage which makes system to generate heat and cause flickering on screen. This is too disturbing for a equipment that is very costly. Any views please?
Having the micro SD slot is much more useful and cheaper than removable SSD.
Bought one it was on sale on amazon for £650 for the cheapest option but I know 8gb of ram is more than enough and will be so for a long time and I plan on getting a terabyte drive to upgrade it plus I got it with 12 month payment plan at 0% interest :D so it is very affordable
Wait... can we NOT use the keyboard if it's not attached to tablet?
pleas do a surface pro 9 review or comparison
The audio of the camera seemed quite off
Damon those veins!