Tim was pretty quick to realise the aileron problem, correct for it and land that fairly gently, especially considering he had so little height or speed to work with. Great job saving that one Tim.
After watching this, I no longer miss nitro planes. What a huge hassle, and we didn't even watch him cleaning the oil off the plane for 15 minutes at the end of his day.
Fail is relative, don't you think? With just a little work he'll be ready for next weekend. I must say l fully expected the wings were going to pop off during the loop ta loops. Tim builds em strong💪
I'm glad you're not around when I fly. Left a shoe in a swamp a couple of weeks back. I guess I'm safe, I hear you live on the bum of the planet. I live in the armpit. Still raining like spring here, but I did get out to fly a couple times. Tim keep up the good work, those who stay on the ground may never feel the sting of a loss, nor the joy of a successful flight. A little aileron reversal now and again is just the chance you take. Do the high five next time! Good show Tokora! You really should take up a collection and fix that tower - maybe the town fathers..... Never mind.
Ha... we've offered to fix the tower on a number of occasions -- but apparently it would be considered an act of vandalism if we restored it to its former glory. What's more, the town council took away the steel ladders that provide access -- and promptly lost them. Hundreds of dollars in scrap value and thousands of dollars to have replacements made -- yet they told us off for allegedly endangering this "valuable public asset" -- the same "valuable public asset" they're letting rot away and disappear through their negligence, bit by bit. Crazy people!
@@xjet I followed that debacle when you were trying to make it happen. Didn't hear the ladder story, but sadly, it's not surprising. Leave it to politicians to lose part of a building and blame the public.
I picked up a Beaver last summer with a UMX beast for $135 for both ( Basically got the beast for free) I had to drive 75 miles for it. I hate to say it but I havent even had the beaver up yet. It came with pontoons but I switched it over to wheels until I get used to flying it. I have my Kadet Nitro almost ready to fly now. I hope to get it ready for flight here soon. So many planes so little time!
JDM... you offer pearls of wisdom. That is about the best set of instructions for tuning glo engines since Clarence's Engine Handbook. I'm sorry that our hobby is plagued by people that slam others and won't take advice about engine tuning. It was clear you tried to help. You guys should reexamine how he was treated and he didn't start the name calling. It is correct those models are set too lean and a richer mix would improve the operation of those engines. One click rich from the lean peak as was stated by someone other than JDM is wrong on so many levels. A glow engine really does lean out as it gains airspeed and by a lot more than one click. One click leaves it way too lean but it will still taxi and then die right after take off. The model in the video likely died on takeoff due to tuning but the taxi fails may be a fuel delivery problem and that might have been an issue during the very erratic takeoff. JDM gave good info about clunk installations too. It's clear to me JDM understands these engines far beyond what he was given credit for here. I must also say examine the safety at your field. Sparks near fuel and laughter? A starter slammed into and past the prop and laughter? A chipped prop that should have been removed and destroyed? You need to notice how many comments to this video were about safety. The hobby is under scrutiny and it's a bad time operate carelessly.
I love the advice from people who weren't even there at the time. All that dangerous stuff -- and yet, oddly enough, we're all far more likely to be injured or killed on the roads by some idiot driver on the way home -- yet we seldom give that a second thought. You're also far more likely to be killed in or by an indiot in a manned aircraft. Risk is a part of life and there is no way to eliminate it, all you can do is reduce it to a tollerable level -- which is what we do. At the gokart and dirt-bike tracks that adjoin our airfield you'll see ambulances rolling up from time to time and carting away people with broken bones, concussions and such. We've never had to call an ambulance as a result of our model-flying activities. Acceptable level of risk? Well if our's is unacceptable then I strongly suggest you contact the neighbouring clubs and berate them for all the injuries they sustain in the pursuit of their pleasure -- but me, I'll respect their right to set their own risk-tollerance levels.
Another long winded justification for error. Thanks to video we were there close enough that many saw danger and I saw an engine setup so wrong the plane can't even taxi. And Why won't't you even try a richer tune? Are you that worried about being wrong.
@@rcpatternlovergloforever9972 Tim's engine never stopped for any reason other than he hasn't set up the throw on his throttle servo properly so when he flips his throttle switch (LOL) to idle, the motor stops -- carby barrel fully closed. That the model has sustained vertical capabilities with no loss in engine RPM is a clear indication that the engine is not "too lean" and it never stopped unexpectedly. The fact that he had to wind in the needle after the first flight (when the engine wasn't running very well) indicates that it was actually a little too rich at the start. Why would he want to run the engine richer -- so that it was not as smooth nor as powerful -- when it was tuned "just right"? Simply because JDM couldn't see a smoke trail? LOL. This is a fixed-wing RC plane, not a helicopter!
Read JDM's comments. He did not say it was lean because no smoke trail. He argued against a smoke trail being a good indicator. I kinda disagree and believe the missing smoke trail and your "1 click rich from the lean peak" method are proof you guys have it set too lean. However, since you can't possibly be wrong there is no need to test it because you are always right. Try JDMs method and if it works you don't have to tell anyone. Write a long msg filled with technical jargon and acronyms about it being your idea all along.
Have mommy lock EXjets keyboard away before he digs himself in deeper... I love it! I flippin love it! These are the best comments on youtube. Well worth the read. Gosh i hope these guys don't shutdown thr hobby. BTW, I'm 63 and it is past my bedtime.
Avoid pills! If the science of aviation became equal to the science of medicine then planes would be falling out of the sky and there would be fires everywhere. Medical Doctors owe us apologies not drugs.
We had a great day it was cold but the engines were performing very well and I messed up the ailerons on that trainer but hey I saved it Soon I will take my 35cc ibis there and my 30cc sbac just waiting on new batterys for dle but here in nz they take ages to come .but hey what the hell we had so much fun. Regards Tim
*Winter and the "bum of the world"* The grass is green, the trees have leaves, the birds are singing and the sky is pretty much blue, what a beautiful day. You guys would never make it in Wyoming. You're very funny.
There is nothing wrong with Nitro , this is How we all started, A bIt messy but Good fun , when you get them Running that is all I can say , Keep the Videos going, Cheers from the UK PT,
What video camera do you use? PLZ You Know if you Put the camera into manual focus and focus it at Infinity & full zoom you don't have to depend on the auto focus till your closer than 10' and zoomed in, You can always just hit the auto focus button and be back in auto focus mode instantly. Try it I think you might like it no more focus hunt and everything should be in focus.
@@xjet Again What Camera P:Z If it has a manual focus try zooming to infinity, Focus, then place focus into Manual. Every thing down to about 10' even at near full zoom should be in focus with no Hunting. the for close up go back to auto focus. Since using this technique I never have the out of focus or focus hunt. It doesn't work with DSLR lenses because they are crap for video like we do.
@@HoundDogMech Yeah, I know exactly how to use manual focus (been doing this for years). The thing is that when Tim is flying, you need to keep things on auto-focus because you never know when he's going to go from infinity to 5 feet and crash at your feet. Nothing worse than missing the money-shot because you're still focused at infinity ;-)
Great camera advice but apparently this guys knows everything and he certainly doesn't listen or want to learn. With your suggestion he would have the money shot in focus. Of course he had a point, Tim is likely to crash it at your feet where infinity focus like you describe could be a tiny bit fuzzy. Of course if he missed your feet by a meter or so it would be back in focus again on a sunny day. So many people could learn and improve their videos with your suggestion. Don't hold your breath on this guy to learn from a comment though.
@@STG3Stang LOL... now I'm really laughing (honestly!). You claim there's "evidence" that *I* hit like for my own comments (which I don't) but then admit that *YOU* do. How old are you kid? Isn't it past your bed-time?
@@xjet so why do I see comments from you to me seconds old with 1 like? I call that evidence. You're digging yourself in deeper. Have your mommy lock the keyboard away.
@@xjet now wAit, i just looked and many of my comments have zero likes days later so how am i giving likes to my own txts? . I only found out that was possible when i tried it recently as i said just above. Mommy you shouldn't have let him get his keyboard again. LOL ROTFLOL LMAO best comment string on RUclips.
I don't think the question any longer is, "Which is right, lean or perfect?" I think the question is can EXjet learn? Its hard for an x-spurt to learn when he knows more than anyone else.
@@Testpilottim an ABC will tolerate an over lean condition on the top end because the cylinder expands more & faster than the piston but the excess heat can cause other problems like requiring yearly bearing changes or delaminating coverings.
You know you guys can always unsubscribe aye ....but I guess you will have to find something else to criticise if you do. Need it must be a hard life pissing excellence aye 🙄🙄😂😂
Why are comments in support of JDMstage4Roush being deleted? He gave the best set of glow engine tuning procedures since Clarence's engine handbook. The cut and paste comment which attempted to refute JDMstage4Roush failed because it clearly states the fire goes out on a glow engine when it's too lean and that was exactly what happened in the video. It is stated that the engine was killed on purpose but I don't think that happened during those Taxi fails. JDMstage4Roush offered wisdom in a very helpful effort.
@@rcpatternlovergloforever9972 How would I know. The only other parties that can delete comments are RUclips (if their "bots" consider it spam or violates their "Community guidelines") or the original poster.
Get yourself a decent radio, one that you can use in the future with your planes or quads Like a Qx7, jumper 16 or Spektrum dx6i I know the spectrum radio uses a wireless Bluetooth connection to the computer. Qx7 I believe an USB to micro-usb. Then download a few free simulators and see which ones you like best. I'm sure Bruce has a video on his RC model reviews Channel explaining.Also Lee over at the painless360 channel has some good tutorials as well. Good luck mate 🤘 @ Alex air conditioning
@@FarmerFpv thank you for your advice, I'll have a look, the spektrum radio I have is quite old so I don't know if it will connect but maybe I'll buy a new one, thanks
@@alexairconditioning1581 which Spektrum radio is it? I'm pretty sure they all connect even the old ones. The old one will use a JR flight simulator adapter which basically looks like a mic plug with USB at one end. And you're welcome mate @ Alex 👊
@@alexairconditioning1581 this one will work with all Spektrum radios as well as FR sky and Flysky rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F233202164421
I am member of a RC club, there is more preflight checks then a Jumbo pilot has to do. Sure in a club you have certain rules, but it's over the top, wheres the fun????? I usually fly on a little field by myself. Would love to fly with the Xjet gang
I never suggested jumbo jet length preflight. Ignoring a minute to safety check your model and a little care in the air should not be ignored because it isn't fun. Such fun is giving drones a bad name.
The fun under the tower that the under the tower team hold dear in spite of safety is exactly the same thinking as flying drones to 10,000ft or through an airport. It's the heck with safety fun is what is important. Then xjet ignores dozens of comments concerned about dangers in the video while he just laughs.
While you might cross things on assembly, a preflight prevents taking off that way. I always check all controls before every take off, every single time.
@@G56AG amen! It's so easy. Move stick right & right suface goes up. Left & left goes up. Back & and back (elevator) goes up. It takes 10 seconds but under the tower it kills fun at this field. Rudder checks are a good idea too as would be JDMstage4roush engine check procedure LOL.
and I'm watching this at 1:10 AM Tuesday, May 21, 2019 (GMT+12) Time in Wellington, New Zealand or Monday 8:11 20 May '19 Central Day lite time in Wisconsin USA
Hey Bruce, I'm Glad To Know That I'm Not The Only One That Has Less Than 30 sec Maiden Flights With A Broken In Half Beautiful New Planes! LMAO I'll Fly Just Like Tim Ifin I Ever Get One In The Air & Trimmed Properly In The Winds Here All This Month!? I Luv John's Big Beaver! Ohhh-Yeaaah I Got A Few Of Them New In The Boxes Butt I'm Afraid On Flyin/Breakin Them... I Do Great On The Flight SIM Butt Have Crashed 3 In The Last 2-Weekends Tryin To Fly Em...Ughhh Thanks Mates PS Note To Y'alls, One Crash Was My STUPID FAULT, The New Eluna Power Glider Don't Like Flyin Ifin You Leave The CF Wing Spar Taped In The Box!!! It Goes Straight Up Under 1/2 Power & Straight Down Wobbling Badly & Pretty Much Uncontrollable... LMAO...
I wonder why we Swede's are the only one measure windspeed as meter per second? Or is there other ppl "out there" who dose it? :) We never use kph or knots. :)
I like Tim's "I don't care" attitude. Full throttle all the way. Coming down in one piece is just a bonus. But I wonder, does he have something at home that's pooping out parts for him?
One last comment before i say goodbye (again LOL). Could it be the high exhsust heat from a regularly over lean engine that caused the elevator covering to delaminate? I wonder...
Dont keep saying this I just dont care I buy the planes for nothing and it's just for fun why do you keep going on about it who cares I dont iv never had a engine seized or nothing who cares I don't so stop trolling.
@@Testpilottim i never said you don't care. I said you're reckless and dangerous and the video proves it. Many other commenters agree. Try to pay attention.
I get it now. Your reckless writing without any punctuation confused me a first. You were saying, you don't care... You want me to stop saying, the engines too lean. Sorry, i don't want others (that are willing to learn) to think xjet's one click lean from lean peak (i.e. engine screaming like your's scream)... don't want anyone to think that's a valid tuning method and end up with yearly bearing changes.
JDMStage4Roush do us a favour and keep posting.....it gives us fantastic stuff to make videos about. Hey @Xjet I think a "safety first" video is in order for these experts lol-then they can troll that too and tell us what we didn't do to their perfect standard
He needs a longer servo arm at the servo and move the clevis on the elevator all the way in then crank the atv's all the way up no expo then watch him crap his pants LOL
Glow Tim the toolman fantastic on the sticks again, break them or bring them home. Break out the hard hats for Tims flying...Nice beaver the plane of course....
Was a most enjoyable Day flying followed by a healthy feed of Burger King on the way home! Was great to get Tim out after him loosing his Dad in the last couple of weeks👎keep smiling Bro, fly it like you stole it and have fun.....and give @Xjet some interesting footage too lol. One day you will succeed in folding a wing in half on a nitro bro 👌👍😂😂
I'm waiting but it just ant folding yet My time will come one day and I hope nice Bruce gets a shot I will tell you i have had it happen once in 2005 at my dads farm up in whangarai .
I noticed on that first model when it was on the ground both the engine and the vertical fin were flopping around loose, more evidence of failure to properly pre flight the plane.
@@xjet I would bet a paycheck that single like on EXjets comment above was him taking time to like his own comment again. He had no time for safety tho, except to joke about it. He puts a premiun on fun and concern for safety just gets in the way, especially if you're trying to shutdown an entire hobby.
FOr f*cks sakes, no pre flight, nothing holding model when starting. If anyone finds your videos you give plenty of ammo to shut our sport down. If this guy has a wings badge, he needs to return it.
Rollin, i could not agree more. Your words have great value. We must challenge reckless practices or we will lose our hobby. Ignoring safety because its not fun has certainly hurt drones. Watching this... Is grounding RC aircraft next
Did it ever occur to you two that not EVERYTHING gets videoed at the field ffs lol....we all go for a piss at random times in the day-@Xjet I reckon you need to start posting more stuff like us going for a piss, waiting for planes to leave the circuit, and maybe even one of a Lipo charging 🙄🙄🙄
@@cripple10 could not have said it better... Somebody please take John T's keyboard and LiPos and radios away. He is f0ul mouthed and disguzting and simply not a very good representative of our hobby. Although his frequent name calling is brave beyond compare with an ocean separating him from those he asaultz. He seem to live in angur something sometime must have hurt him bad. I hope he can recover.
@@Johnn_T if you could apply all your efforts in name calling and generating f0ul mouth comments and all the energy fueling your angur... well, it would be more than enough to do something positive about the serious need for improvement in your team's approach to safety concerns from so many viewers.
Does anyone know how to fly for real in your club?... OMG! All I always see in your videos is people trashing planes as their daily basis...🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Well, thumbs up for your video! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Greetings from Douglas, Arizona 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🌵🇵🇷😷
It just occurred to me that the most iconic thing about xjet is the Tower, radio model review is you! Why not have AliExpress banggood or gearbest make a souvenir model of the Tower like the Eiffel Tower and a bobblehead Bruce! Have them shipped from China to the buyer for free but charge $5 for shipping! I would buy a model of the Tower, a bobblehead Bruce not so much! LOL
Please please please richen your motors. They are way way way to lean. Richer is more reliable, runs cooler, and engines last 100 times longer than the engines on these two will last. PLEASE REMEMBER A MODEL ENGINE LEANS OUT WHEN IT GOES AIRBORNE. Start it and point it nose up, if it slows down or stops you are too lean. Richen it and ideally when you point it up it will speed up slightly. Pointing a model straight up is to simulate what happens when it goes airborne--it leans out. With fuel tank much lower than engine when model is pointed up the engine leans out similar to take off. Over lean gives high rpm on ground but way less power and zero reliability when airborne. So many people think max rpm on ground is best but it means lean peak on ground and over lean im the air. Hope this helps.
JDMStage4Roush we were all a bit concerned at tokoroa about how Tim treats his motors, so we have a program now in place where each one is weighed before and after each flight (in case they are running lean) and I can assure you his motors are not leaning out as they weigh the same after he's flown them as they do before he starts lol...,..no seriously though his motors are FAR from lean-Bruce's camera doesn't do a very good job of showing the oil smoke trail unless the engine is running really really rich, or the lighting on the day is a particular way. If you notice in this video when Bruce is filming Tim near the sun, you can clearly see the shadow of the smoke trail. @Xjet usually premixes the fuel the nitro boys run and Ron usually does all Tim's engine Tuning hence we lovingly call Ron "Dad" (cause he's always sorting Tim's models and radio out lol).
@@Johnn_T they are too lean. When you hear the scream you hear in the video they are too lean. I have taught at least 20 people how to fix exactly what his engines are doing. If you like dead stick flights and landings then refuse to listen. I have also had about 100 guys refuse to listen. Men are almost impossible to teach about engines. Some do listen and learn. Women listen, say thank you, and you never see them dead stick again. Then she tried to teach and got shut down fast! There is no question at all those in the video were too lean. 1) died right after pointed up 2) died right after take off. 3) died as soon as tank was drawn down a little. 4) you can hear that lean scream that comes near the lean peak from both engines. I guarantee his tuning method is to set max rpm. People think that means max power but ask any dragster mechanic... horsepower comes from slightly rich as does a lot of cooling. Lastly a lean 2-stroke glow engine will smoke because its burning ~20% oil. Modern synthetic oils will not burn up completely even in an over lean seriously hot engine. Smoke is not a good indicator anymore but that scream makes it undeniable. Try a 3 or 4 clicks richer (open needle vale) and see if it doesn't fly better. If you like to set max rpm do it on a near empty tank but in the air it will lean out. So you will still be too lean. I feel for the guy and i know I could help but trust is hard to earn.
There is no point in richening an engine to the point where it begins four-stroking and Tims engines are tuned fine (except the first flight with the low-winger which was actually a little rich). The amount of "smoke" also depends on the type of oil you're using. If you're using a cheap fully-synthetic PAG-based oil (like Coolpower blue) then you will get lots of smoke (partly because you need to run so damned much of it) but if you're using a more advanced oil (like Aerosynth/Aerosave) at lower ratios (about 10-12%) then there's almost no smoke at all. I've got a couple of Thunder Tiger 46 Pro engines here with over 200 hours on them and they're still very strong motors with clean bores and good compression. The secret is one click rich of peak and a high quality oil. More engines are killed due to the lack of good anti-corrosion packages associated with the cheaper oils which tend to allow the acidic combustion byproducts and hygroscopic nature of methanol to promote rust on the crankshaft and bearings when laid up over winter. When people take these rusty engines and run them in the spring that rust creates a great grinding paste in the bore and on the bearings.
Tim was pretty quick to realise the aileron problem, correct for it and land that fairly gently, especially considering he had so little height or speed to work with. Great job saving that one Tim.
Commentary is in top form and entertaining.
I just love the safety precautions you Guys have when your battery is sparking right next to a gallon of NITRO. BOOM ! lol
JohnnyD RC hell yes, safety first!
come on now, he had his safety crocs on - can't be too careful around flammable liquids and spinning propellers.
Haven't you seen, this group thinks safety kills
the fun
How can he fly so erratically, but then land, deadstick, in a stiff wind, like he was joking the whole time?
Maybe he probably was! 🤔
One man's erratic is another man's skill.... he's actually a very good pilot, in his own way.
After watching this, I no longer miss nitro planes. What a huge hassle, and we didn't even watch him cleaning the oil off the plane for 15 minutes at the end of his day.
Fail is relative, don't you think? With just a little work he'll be ready for next weekend. I must say l fully expected the wings were going to pop off during the loop ta loops. Tim builds em strong💪
Another reason I gave up on petrol flight for rc. Pain in the arse.
Kool vid Bruce
Great save with the backwards ailerons, nicely flown, as always great filming and commentary, love it.
I'm glad you're not around when I fly. Left a shoe in a swamp a couple of weeks back. I guess I'm safe, I hear you live on the bum of the planet. I live in the armpit. Still raining like spring here, but I did get out to fly a couple times.
Tim keep up the good work, those who stay on the ground may never feel the sting of a loss, nor the joy of a successful flight. A little aileron reversal now and again is just the chance you take. Do the high five next time!
Good show Tokora! You really should take up a collection and fix that tower - maybe the town fathers..... Never mind.
Ha... we've offered to fix the tower on a number of occasions -- but apparently it would be considered an act of vandalism if we restored it to its former glory. What's more, the town council took away the steel ladders that provide access -- and promptly lost them. Hundreds of dollars in scrap value and thousands of dollars to have replacements made -- yet they told us off for allegedly endangering this "valuable public asset" -- the same "valuable public asset" they're letting rot away and disappear through their negligence, bit by bit. Crazy people!
@@xjet I followed that debacle when you were trying to make it happen. Didn't hear the ladder story, but sadly, it's not surprising. Leave it to politicians to lose part of a building and blame the public.
tip for John: put some extra landing gear on the top of the plane then you always can taxi it. very nice plane John!!
You mean like these videos -- from almost a decade ago:
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ruclips.net/video/5mPc5jeuy5E/видео.html
petedotnl I've often wondered if I should do that cause that tokoroa crosswind is a bugger for flipping planes lol
I picked up a Beaver last summer with a UMX beast for $135 for both ( Basically got the beast for free) I had to drive 75 miles for it. I hate to say it but I havent even had the beaver up yet. It came with pontoons but I switched it over to wheels until I get used to flying it. I have my Kadet Nitro almost ready to fly now. I hope to get it ready for flight here soon. So many planes so little time!
I’m pretty sure there is a beaver joke in there somewhere...... 😁
@@kenpickett9317 better than a corn hole joke
JDM... you offer pearls of wisdom. That is about the best set of instructions for tuning glo engines since Clarence's Engine Handbook. I'm sorry that our hobby is plagued by people that slam others and won't take advice about engine tuning. It was clear you tried to help. You guys should reexamine how he was treated and he didn't start the name calling. It is correct those models are set too lean and a richer mix would improve the operation of those engines. One click rich from the lean peak as was stated by someone other than JDM is wrong on so many levels. A glow engine really does lean out as it gains airspeed and by a lot more than one click. One click leaves it way too lean but it will still taxi and then die right after take off. The model in the video likely died on takeoff due to tuning but the taxi fails may be a fuel delivery problem and that might have been an issue during the very erratic takeoff. JDM gave good info about clunk installations too. It's clear to me JDM understands these engines far beyond what he was given credit for here. I must also say examine the safety at your field. Sparks near fuel and laughter? A starter slammed into and past the prop and laughter? A chipped prop that should have been removed and destroyed? You need to notice how many comments to this video were about safety. The hobby is under scrutiny and it's a bad time operate carelessly.
I love the advice from people who weren't even there at the time. All that dangerous stuff -- and yet, oddly enough, we're all far more likely to be injured or killed on the roads by some idiot driver on the way home -- yet we seldom give that a second thought. You're also far more likely to be killed in or by an indiot in a manned aircraft. Risk is a part of life and there is no way to eliminate it, all you can do is reduce it to a tollerable level -- which is what we do. At the gokart and dirt-bike tracks that adjoin our airfield you'll see ambulances rolling up from time to time and carting away people with broken bones, concussions and such. We've never had to call an ambulance as a result of our model-flying activities. Acceptable level of risk? Well if our's is unacceptable then I strongly suggest you contact the neighbouring clubs and berate them for all the injuries they sustain in the pursuit of their pleasure -- but me, I'll respect their right to set their own risk-tollerance levels.
Another long winded justification for error. Thanks to video we were there close enough that many saw danger and I saw an engine setup so wrong the plane can't even taxi. And Why won't't you even try a richer tune? Are you that worried about being wrong.
@@rcpatternlovergloforever9972 Tim's engine never stopped for any reason other than he hasn't set up the throw on his throttle servo properly so when he flips his throttle switch (LOL) to idle, the motor stops -- carby barrel fully closed. That the model has sustained vertical capabilities with no loss in engine RPM is a clear indication that the engine is not "too lean" and it never stopped unexpectedly. The fact that he had to wind in the needle after the first flight (when the engine wasn't running very well) indicates that it was actually a little too rich at the start. Why would he want to run the engine richer -- so that it was not as smooth nor as powerful -- when it was tuned "just right"? Simply because JDM couldn't see a smoke trail? LOL. This is a fixed-wing RC plane, not a helicopter!
Read JDM's comments. He did not say it was lean because no smoke trail. He argued against a smoke trail being a good indicator. I kinda disagree and believe the missing smoke trail and your "1 click rich from the lean peak" method are proof you guys have it set too lean. However, since you can't possibly be wrong there is no need to test it because you are always right. Try JDMs method and if it works you don't have to tell anyone. Write a long msg filled with technical jargon and acronyms about it being your idea all along.
RCpatternLover GloForever keep trolling...this is good content👌
Another great video mate, good old nitro
so nice to see you blokes fly the same rc planes that we fly in australia.
Have mommy lock EXjets keyboard away before he digs himself in deeper... I love it! I flippin love it! These are the best comments on youtube. Well worth the read. Gosh i hope these guys don't shutdown thr hobby. BTW, I'm 63 and it is past my bedtime.
Avoid pills! If the science of aviation became equal to the science of medicine then planes would be falling out of the sky and there would be fires everywhere. Medical Doctors owe us apologies not drugs.
Very very nice Tim!!!!!Nitro rules...oh and i like the Beaver!!nice!!!
We had a great day it was cold but the engines were performing very well and I messed up the ailerons on that trainer but hey I saved it
Soon I will take my 35cc ibis there and my 30cc sbac just waiting on new batterys for dle but here in nz they take ages to come .but hey what the hell we had so much fun.
Regards
Tim
Blaz will you ever come to tok or do we have to take the plane to Slovenia
Flyworks Limited someday i do hope
To get there but you can also come here...;)
Blaz could you tell me if my engine was too lean we have a culprit saying my engines was to lean
Your a expert and I dont think they were to lean
Flyworks Limited engine sounded just fine to me...
*Winter and the "bum of the world"*
The grass is green, the trees have leaves, the birds are singing and the sky is pretty much blue, what a beautiful day.
You guys would never make it in Wyoming.
You're very funny.
There is nothing wrong with Nitro , this is How we all started, A bIt messy but Good fun , when you get them Running that is all I can say , Keep the Videos going,
Cheers from the UK
PT,
Felt like he wasn't doing loops on purpose .... just the elevator got stuck ....lol !
What radio is Tim using out of curiosity?
Tim gives me anxiety, had to take a Xanax for this one lol.
Where are you guys located please and when do you fly.. i want to so come visit when i come over to visit the family.
Great video Bruce! You even mentioned Karen Carpenter and singing Close to you.I miss her.I was surprised you remembered her.Thats great.
I have been watching your videos and have noticed Tim gets the ailerons reversed quit a bit! Why?
Go Tim, nothing like a good few G's and a sky thrashing to make your day.
Well saved Tim.
Is the prop on the low wing turning clockwise?
I always enjoy Test Pilot Tim giving his aircraft a spar test!
Yep called that ailerons reversed. Is that scotch broom along the fence?
What video camera do you use? PLZ
You Know if you Put the camera into manual focus and focus it at Infinity & full zoom you don't have to depend on the auto focus till your closer than 10' and zoomed in, You can always just hit the auto focus button and be back in auto focus mode instantly. Try it I think you might like it no more focus hunt and everything should be in focus.
Pulling focus on this camera is a bit of a PITA because it has a focus nob, not a focus ring. That's one of the reasons I'm thinking of upgrading.
@@xjet Again What Camera P:Z If it has a manual focus try zooming to infinity, Focus, then place focus into Manual. Every thing down to about 10' even at near full zoom should be in focus with no Hunting. the for close up go back to auto focus. Since using this technique I never have the out of focus or focus hunt. It doesn't work with DSLR lenses because they are crap for video like we do.
@@HoundDogMech Yeah, I know exactly how to use manual focus (been doing this for years). The thing is that when Tim is flying, you need to keep things on auto-focus because you never know when he's going to go from infinity to 5 feet and crash at your feet. Nothing worse than missing the money-shot because you're still focused at infinity ;-)
@@xjet "5 feet and crash at your feet." I think I'd be in a bunker far from the flight line with guys like that ... LOL Have a super day.
Great camera advice but apparently this guys knows everything and he certainly doesn't listen or want to learn. With your suggestion he would have the money shot in focus. Of course he had a point, Tim is likely to crash it at your feet where infinity focus like you describe could be a tiny bit fuzzy. Of course if he missed your feet by a meter or so it would be back in focus again on a sunny day. So many people could learn and improve their videos with your suggestion. Don't hold your breath on this guy to learn from a comment though.
I think xjet hits like for his own comments. That's funny.
As usual... wrong again LOL! I l ove it when X-spurts join the comments :-)
But the evidence is that you do. I just tried and it is possible to give a like to your own comment.
@@STG3Stang LOL... now I'm really laughing (honestly!). You claim there's "evidence" that *I* hit like for my own comments (which I don't) but then admit that *YOU* do. How old are you kid? Isn't it past your bed-time?
@@xjet so why do I see comments from you to me seconds old with 1 like? I call that evidence. You're digging yourself in deeper. Have your mommy lock the keyboard away.
@@xjet now wAit, i just looked and many of my comments have zero likes days later so how am i giving likes to my own txts? . I only found out that was possible when i tried it recently as i said just above. Mommy you shouldn't have let him get his keyboard again. LOL ROTFLOL LMAO best comment string on RUclips.
And I still love the channel ! Thanks for the great show.
I don't think the question any longer is, "Which is right, lean or perfect?" I think the question is can EXjet learn? Its hard for an x-spurt to learn when he knows more than anyone else.
Do you even know how a ABC engine works.
@@Testpilottim an ABC will tolerate an over lean condition on the top end because the cylinder expands more & faster than the piston but the excess heat can cause other problems like requiring yearly bearing changes or delaminating coverings.
Exjet, i gave a like to my own comment above cux i loved it. This is so much fun.
@@STG3Stang I gave a like to both! Quite good.
You know you guys can always unsubscribe aye ....but I guess you will have to find something else to criticise if you do. Need it must be a hard life pissing excellence aye 🙄🙄😂😂
Why are comments in support of JDMstage4Roush being deleted? He gave the best set of glow engine tuning procedures since Clarence's engine handbook. The cut and paste comment which attempted to refute JDMstage4Roush failed because it clearly states the fire goes out on a glow engine when it's too lean and that was exactly what happened in the video. It is stated that the engine was killed on purpose but I don't think that happened during those Taxi fails. JDMstage4Roush offered wisdom in a very helpful effort.
No comments have been deleted by me -- as most people realise, I am happy for everyone to have their say.
Then where are they?
@@rcpatternlovergloforever9972 How would I know. The only other parties that can delete comments are RUclips (if their "bots" consider it spam or violates their "Community guidelines") or the original poster.
Having fun and that's the most important thing to do. Have a blessed day. Shalom my brother Shalom
Rollin, wow very true. If you read below you'll see Exjet teaches that safety isn't fun
...as does much of his team. It really scares me. These guys confuse reckless abandon with skill.
Armchair experts aye 😉 if only we could post meme's in here I have the perfect award for you two🏆🏆🎖🎖
How does one use a flight sim, what might I need like controller etc, I wanted to use a sim as I'm a terrible pilot, Hi from UK
Get a fms super easy
Get yourself a decent radio, one that you can use in the future with your planes or quads Like a Qx7, jumper 16 or Spektrum dx6i I know the spectrum radio uses a wireless Bluetooth connection to the computer. Qx7 I believe an USB to micro-usb. Then download a few free simulators and see which ones you like best. I'm sure Bruce has a video on his RC model reviews Channel explaining.Also Lee over at the painless360 channel has some good tutorials as well. Good luck mate 🤘 @ Alex air conditioning
@@FarmerFpv thank you for your advice, I'll have a look, the spektrum radio I have is quite old so I don't know if it will connect but maybe I'll buy a new one, thanks
@@alexairconditioning1581 which Spektrum radio is it? I'm pretty sure they all connect even the old ones. The old one will use a JR flight simulator adapter which basically looks like a mic plug with USB at one end. And you're welcome mate @ Alex 👊
@@alexairconditioning1581 this one will work with all Spektrum radios as well as FR sky and Flysky rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F233202164421
Sometimes I wonder if you get a clup for laughing at people Bruce...……....….
Model aviation is not a crime*
*Terms and conditions apply.
Tim has mad skills, always fun to watch
Don't confuse recklessness with skill. Skilled rc pilots don't ignore safety or preflight checks.
I am member of a RC club, there is more preflight checks then a Jumbo pilot has to do. Sure in a club you have certain rules, but it's over the top, wheres the fun????? I usually fly on a little field by myself. Would love to fly with the Xjet gang
I never suggested jumbo jet length preflight. Ignoring a minute to safety check your model and a little care in the air should not be ignored because it isn't fun. Such fun is giving drones a bad name.
Thought we where talking about Tim and his plane, where did Drones come into it????
The fun under the tower that the under the tower team hold dear in spite of safety is exactly the same thinking as flying drones to 10,000ft or through an airport. It's the heck with safety fun is what is important. Then xjet ignores dozens of comments concerned about dangers in the video while he just laughs.
Ah the old reversed ailerons. Happens us all!
While you might cross things on assembly, a preflight prevents taking off that way. I always check all controls before every take off, every single time.
@@G56AG I do too. I didn't once though. Got lucky and ditched it in long grass. That durafly tundra is a tough little plane!
That was an amazing save, I don't know if it was skill or pure luck, but the plane was saved, I expected it to be destroyed.
@@G56AG amen! It's so easy. Move stick right & right suface goes up. Left & left goes up. Back & and back (elevator) goes up. It takes 10 seconds but under the tower it kills fun at this field. Rudder checks are a good idea too as would be JDMstage4roush engine check procedure LOL.
Got to say: Tim is a special guy. Short bus 🚌 special
Reading through comments seems exjet can not make a mistake. Info like that is of no use to me.
As long as you're doing what you like to do Tim, it's like Joe Dirt said, "Ya gotta keep on keepin' on".👍👍👍
Just wondering why i never see any Freewing or FMS planes on you field? Are they hard to get?
You'll always see my FMS SuperEZ and that Beaver is an FMS model
Also my tigercat
xjet sorry guess I just missed the vids
Flyworks Limited sorry must have missed that video also
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At 3:15, I thought, is he gonna fly through that ditch. Then as he taxies I thought, did he even check the control surfaces? Sure enough he crashed.
i like the 2 position throttle switch mod ......
“That was lucky John”! 😂😂😂
6:15 " It's flying nice! She looks pretty scale". Lmao!
Full throttle TIM!! there is a throttle right?
like that cub
and I'm watching this at 1:10 AM
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 (GMT+12) Time in Wellington, New Zealand or Monday 8:11 20 May '19 Central Day lite time in Wisconsin USA
hEY GUYS WHERE IS THE RUNWAY
Tim's chipmunk test pilots gotta be pulling about 25 Gs!!! Just barf from from one end to the other!!!!
Hey Bruce, I'm Glad To Know That I'm Not The Only One That Has Less Than 30 sec Maiden Flights With A Broken In Half Beautiful New Planes! LMAO I'll Fly Just Like Tim Ifin I Ever Get One In The Air & Trimmed Properly In The Winds Here All This Month!? I Luv John's Big Beaver! Ohhh-Yeaaah I Got A Few Of Them New In The Boxes Butt I'm Afraid On Flyin/Breakin Them... I Do Great On The Flight SIM Butt Have Crashed 3 In The Last 2-Weekends Tryin To Fly Em...Ughhh Thanks Mates PS Note To Y'alls, One Crash Was My STUPID FAULT, The New Eluna Power Glider Don't Like Flyin Ifin You Leave The CF Wing Spar Taped In The Box!!! It Goes Straight Up Under 1/2 Power & Straight Down Wobbling Badly & Pretty Much Uncontrollable... LMAO...
Sounds like you're having almost as much fun as us John!
I wonder why we Swede's are the only one measure windspeed as meter per second? Or is there other ppl "out there" who dose it? :)
We never use kph or knots. :)
I like Tim's "I don't care" attitude. Full throttle all the way. Coming down in one piece is just a bonus. But I wonder, does he have something at home that's pooping out parts for him?
Tim has a new car I hope he looks after this one.
No... the car he blew up was his mother's.
Tim wrecks everything he touches 😂🤣 but somehow seems to repair it.
Yep, he's got a new (second-hand) motor for his mother's car and plans to fix it up soon.
One last comment before i say goodbye (again LOL). Could it be the high exhsust heat from a regularly over lean engine that caused the elevator covering to delaminate? I wonder...
Dont keep saying this I just dont care I buy the planes for nothing and it's just for fun why do you keep going on about it who cares I dont iv never had a engine seized or nothing who cares I don't so stop trolling.
@@Testpilottim i never said you don't care. I said you're reckless and dangerous and the video proves it. Many other commenters agree. Try to pay attention.
I get it now. Your reckless writing without any punctuation confused me a first. You were saying, you don't care... You want me to stop saying, the engines too lean. Sorry, i don't want others (that are willing to learn) to think xjet's one click lean from lean peak (i.e. engine screaming like your's scream)... don't want anyone to think that's a valid tuning method and end up with yearly bearing changes.
No EXjet I didn't say they must be so rich that they break into 4 cycle
JDMStage4Roush do us a favour and keep posting.....it gives us fantastic stuff to make videos about. Hey @Xjet I think a "safety first" video is in order for these experts lol-then they can troll that too and tell us what we didn't do to their perfect standard
Bloody good day
Flyworks Limited was GREAT to get you out Tim after the last shitty couple of weeks that you have had-more good times to come bro👍
Maybe some times you should put the camera down and help these people out.
Tim could forget the prop and his transmitter and still manage to fly lol
Full throttle stick slapping, everyone needs a helmet.
I think, Tim is ready to move on to the JET engine age.
:-0
3:48 Hahahaha, I used to have a preflight problem.........
I love what Tim did to his Taranis
Dean Cory which one, cause the carbon fibre one he copied what I did lol
@@Johnn_T I went with snow camouflage on mine!
Dean Cory I almost went that way myself👌
@@Johnn_T so many of the carbon fiber ones around me thus the camouflage to be different!
ROFLOL! “Special battery connector he’s made out of his own head” 😂😂😂
He needs a longer servo arm at the servo and move the clevis on the elevator all the way in then crank the atv's all the way up no expo then watch him crap his pants LOL
Glow Tim the toolman fantastic on the sticks again, break them or bring them home. Break out the hard hats for Tims flying...Nice beaver the plane of course....
Was a most enjoyable Day flying followed by a healthy feed of Burger King on the way home! Was great to get Tim out after him loosing his Dad in the last couple of weeks👎keep smiling Bro, fly it like you stole it and have fun.....and give @Xjet some interesting footage too lol. One day you will succeed in folding a wing in half on a nitro bro 👌👍😂😂
I'm waiting but it just ant folding yet
My time will come one day and I hope nice Bruce gets a shot
I will tell you i have had it happen once in 2005 at my dads farm up in whangarai .
Thanks it was good to rag a few models I thort I checked those aleron too lol.
Why not check your stuff?
Isn't that what you do *after* the crash? :-)
@@xjet joking about safety again.
Tim nice but dim
I noticed on that first model when it was on the ground both the engine and the vertical fin were flopping around loose, more evidence of failure to properly pre flight the plane.
Tim does his preflight checks *after* the crash. He finds it easier to do things that way :-)
@@xjet joking about safety.
STOP IT!
@@xjet Joking about dangerous operations again.
@@xjet I would bet a paycheck that single like on EXjets comment above was him taking time to like his own comment again. He had no time for safety tho, except to joke about it. He puts a premiun on fun and concern for safety just gets in the way, especially if you're trying to shutdown an entire hobby.
Wheres your airplane?????
He's got a decent mince going on there
Nothing like the awful sound of a master aircrew propeller.
put happy-face-tape on the prop too :)
Feel like I’m watching animal planet
Poor Tim the butt of much humor !
Nice
thank you man for at least attempting telling us in kmph ;)
FOr f*cks sakes, no pre flight, nothing holding model when starting. If anyone finds your videos you give plenty of ammo to shut our sport down. If this guy has a wings badge, he needs to return it.
Rollin, i could not agree more. Your words have great value. We must challenge reckless practices or we will lose our hobby. Ignoring safety because its not fun has certainly hurt drones. Watching this... Is grounding RC aircraft next
Did it ever occur to you two that not EVERYTHING gets videoed at the field ffs lol....we all go for a piss at random times in the day-@Xjet I reckon you need to start posting more stuff like us going for a piss, waiting for planes to leave the circuit, and maybe even one of a Lipo charging 🙄🙄🙄
John T 😂 so you guys know how to piss and charge lipos but can't do a pre flight on an aircraft and don't know basic field safety. Bravo
@@cripple10 could not have said it better... Somebody please take John T's keyboard and LiPos and radios away. He is f0ul mouthed and disguzting and simply not a very good representative of our hobby. Although his frequent name calling is brave beyond compare with an ocean separating him from those he asaultz. He seem to live in angur something sometime must have hurt him bad. I hope he can recover.
@@Johnn_T if you could apply all your efforts in name calling and generating f0ul mouth comments and all the energy fueling your angur... well, it would be more than enough to do something positive about the serious need for improvement in your team's approach to safety concerns from so many viewers.
Tim is crazy...kakakak
Second time he had aileron backward, lol
Rookie
FABBBBBBBBBB STUFF
Does Tim smoke a bunch of pot lol
Does anyone know how to fly for real in your club?... OMG! All I always see in your videos is people trashing planes as their daily basis...🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Well, thumbs up for your video! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Greetings from Douglas, Arizona 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🌵🇵🇷😷
awesome appears sub 250 will be the only way to fly...lol
first
kmh gggrrr whats that in miles an hour lol im british u know pomy.............................
It just occurred to me that the most iconic thing about xjet is the Tower, radio model review is you! Why not have AliExpress banggood or gearbest make a souvenir model of the Tower like the Eiffel Tower and a bobblehead Bruce! Have them shipped from China to the buyer for free but charge $5 for shipping! I would buy a model of the Tower, a bobblehead Bruce not so much! LOL
Jim Clark, N5QL Why not a tower snow globe with bobblehead Bruce in it? Go big or go home.....
I shall pass these ideas on to my full-time merch-manager (LOL).
Could be ready in time for Xmas, just the gift for the RC nut that has everything... or the head of the NZ Pilots Association!
@@foamdataservices I thought that Penicillin was the gift "for the man who has everything" :-)
xjet Depends on wether your lady boy is antibiotic resistant or not.....
Please please please richen your motors. They are way way way to lean. Richer is more reliable, runs cooler, and engines last 100 times longer than the engines on these two will last. PLEASE REMEMBER A MODEL ENGINE LEANS OUT WHEN IT GOES AIRBORNE. Start it and point it nose up, if it slows down or stops you are too lean. Richen it and ideally when you point it up it will speed up slightly. Pointing a model straight up is to simulate what happens when it goes airborne--it leans out. With fuel tank much lower than engine when model is pointed up the engine leans out similar to take off. Over lean gives high rpm on ground but way less power and zero reliability when airborne. So many people think max rpm on ground is best but it means lean peak on ground and over lean im the air. Hope this helps.
we are going to tunnel ram one of the engines so if it isn't already running lean it fuxking well will be in a dive tunnel rammed lol
JDMStage4Roush we were all a bit concerned at tokoroa about how Tim treats his motors, so we have a program now in place where each one is weighed before and after each flight (in case they are running lean) and I can assure you his motors are not leaning out as they weigh the same after he's flown them as they do before he starts lol...,..no seriously though his motors are FAR from lean-Bruce's camera doesn't do a very good job of showing the oil smoke trail unless the engine is running really really rich, or the lighting on the day is a particular way. If you notice in this video when Bruce is filming Tim near the sun, you can clearly see the shadow of the smoke trail. @Xjet usually premixes the fuel the nitro boys run and Ron usually does all Tim's engine Tuning hence we lovingly call Ron "Dad" (cause he's always sorting Tim's models and radio out lol).
@@Johnn_T Great landings with the Beaver! Was that a Pilot Robert "OH YEAH" I heard on one of them? :P
@@Johnn_T they are too lean. When you hear the scream you hear in the video they are too lean. I have taught at least 20 people how to fix exactly what his engines are doing. If you like dead stick flights and landings then refuse to listen. I have also had about 100 guys refuse to listen. Men are almost impossible to teach about engines. Some do listen and learn. Women listen, say thank you, and you never see them dead stick again. Then she tried to teach and got shut down fast! There is no question at all those in the video were too lean. 1) died right after pointed up 2) died right after take off. 3) died as soon as tank was drawn down a little. 4) you can hear that lean scream that comes near the lean peak from both engines. I guarantee his tuning method is to set max rpm. People think that means max power but ask any dragster mechanic... horsepower comes from slightly rich as does a lot of cooling. Lastly a lean 2-stroke glow engine will smoke because its burning ~20% oil. Modern synthetic oils will not burn up completely even in an over lean seriously hot engine. Smoke is not a good indicator anymore but that scream makes it undeniable. Try a 3 or 4 clicks richer (open needle vale) and see if it doesn't fly better. If you like to set max rpm do it on a near empty tank but in the air it will lean out. So you will still be too lean. I feel for the guy and i know I could help but trust is hard to earn.
There is no point in richening an engine to the point where it begins four-stroking and Tims engines are tuned fine (except the first flight with the low-winger which was actually a little rich). The amount of "smoke" also depends on the type of oil you're using. If you're using a cheap fully-synthetic PAG-based oil (like Coolpower blue) then you will get lots of smoke (partly because you need to run so damned much of it) but if you're using a more advanced oil (like Aerosynth/Aerosave) at lower ratios (about 10-12%) then there's almost no smoke at all. I've got a couple of Thunder Tiger 46 Pro engines here with over 200 hours on them and they're still very strong motors with clean bores and good compression. The secret is one click rich of peak and a high quality oil.
More engines are killed due to the lack of good anti-corrosion packages associated with the cheaper oils which tend to allow the acidic combustion byproducts and hygroscopic nature of methanol to promote rust on the crankshaft and bearings when laid up over winter. When people take these rusty engines and run them in the spring that rust creates a great grinding paste in the bore and on the bearings.
Que pena kkkkkk
I dont like people like you harassing your fellow rc pilots.
You mean like what you just did?
glow engines are good to lose 3 things your fingers your hearing and most likely your plane once the engine quits 😂😂😂😂