Maximilian_Dood's Reacting to Tim & Geoff Follin's music for the first time!

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  • Опубликовано: 15 фев 2024
  • First of all I want to clarify, I don't get money for this video. I just really wanted to archive this in some way for people to actually see, because it's so worth it. I waited long enough and it doesn't seem like Max is interested in posting any of this clips in his main channel, so I decided to edit the best parts of this VOD for you, his reactions and chatting about the topic are priceless.
    Some of the highlights are Plok! (SNES), Solstice (NES), Pictionary (NES), Spider-Man and X-MEN in Arcade's revenge (SNES) & Silver Surfer (NES).
    Also if you want to see the full VOD, here's the link to it, there's even more stuff that I don't show here, like Max playing some of the games that has Tim and Geoff's music in it.
    Also him and his crew (Yovideogames) played some games in other stream too, that was the stream that made me notice they acknowledge Tim.
    Max reacting to Tim Follin (12/02/2021): www.twitch.tv/maximilian_dood...
    Max and Yovideogames playing games with Tim Follin music (12/05/2021): www.twitch.tv/videos/12256032...
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Комментарии • 673

  • @Thiagomii
    @Thiagomii  Месяц назад +162

    I can't believe this happened.... RIP Geoff Follin, you did some of the best retro tunes ever, you would be remembered as the legend that you are. I feel so bad for Tim right know, I hope for the best to him and Geoff's family.

    • @crumblechef205
      @crumblechef205 Месяц назад +14

      I had just came back to check this video out randomly and this is the first I've seen of the news.. That's incredibly sad to hear, all the best to the family and friends of Geoff Follin. Rest in peace to a legend.

    • @modh8ta500
      @modh8ta500 Месяц назад +5

      I heard his death in a Plok Longplay in World of Longplays.

    • @blondafro4112
      @blondafro4112 Месяц назад

      Plok is a good game

    • @pigfish99
      @pigfish99 Месяц назад +9

      Pancreatic cancer is a bitch. :

    • @MasterZebulin
      @MasterZebulin 8 дней назад +1

      Aww goddamnit, he's dead!?

  • @sprankton
    @sprankton 4 месяца назад +986

    Tim Follin composed a whole country song to go with a licensed racing game that came free with breakfast cereal. He did not care what he was working on. He went as hard as he could no matter what.

    • @sprankton
      @sprankton 4 месяца назад +37

      @coldsnap5742 Ford Racing 2, but he was apparently only a co composer with Bjorne Lynn on that.

    • @chaxinitus
      @chaxinitus 4 месяца назад +10

      ​@@spranktonI know of Bjorne Lynm strictly because of a song I used to hear all the time as hold music at an old job, hearing about him in context with the Follin Brothers is fucking wild, haha

    • @TheOneFlyron
      @TheOneFlyron 4 месяца назад +2

      That's what I don't like about his soundtracks. He doesn't care about the game. IMO he should've.

    • @xiaolin867
      @xiaolin867 4 месяца назад +13

      ​​@@TheOneFlyron >Tim didn't care about the game he composed for, therefore the music is... le bad!
      That's basically your comment. What an absolutely horrendous opinion

    • @Asterra2
      @Asterra2 4 месяца назад +11

      There was that one time he composed a seven minute intro tune for a miserably bad beat 'em up based on a barely-known comic. It had deliberately suggestive lyrics, sung in a deliberately over the top way. Yet the song oozes musical merit. It's calculatingly prog rock-certainly Tim Follin's go-to genre. It has three solos in a row: electric guitar, flute, synth. The game itself almost didn't get released, and then only as a pack-in for something else equally unwanted. The tune was also a little bit corrupted on the game pressing. I fixed it up and added it to my playlist.

  • @tjreardon8495
    @tjreardon8495 4 месяца назад +1478

    His music deserved better games

    • @kgibby
      @kgibby 4 месяца назад +211

      He's the only guy to make me want to play pictionary.

    • @pantyosashu8137
      @pantyosashu8137 4 месяца назад +137

      How dare you say that about Plok?!

    • @Kane917
      @Kane917 4 месяца назад +141

      Plok's a masterpiece

    • @PeptoAbismol
      @PeptoAbismol 4 месяца назад +47

      silver surfer is fun if you hate yourself :^)

    • @AlmostAeroGauge
      @AlmostAeroGauge 4 месяца назад

      Plok was fantastic, you silly cunt.

  • @53Spawn
    @53Spawn 4 месяца назад +683

    "CALM DOWN TIM! ITS JUST PICTIONARY!"

    • @goukenslay7555
      @goukenslay7555 4 месяца назад +8

      Best comment from that video

    • @Lost_n_Found_1
      @Lost_n_Found_1 3 месяца назад +6

      @@goukenslay7555 And they were just repeating a comment from 15 years ago, lol

    • @Bro-cx2jc
      @Bro-cx2jc 3 месяца назад

      "AIN'T NO CALM IN THESE DRUMBEATS MUTHAFUKKA!"

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@Lost_n_Found_1it's likely a sentiment repeated again and again through the ages

    • @Lost_n_Found_1
      @Lost_n_Found_1 3 месяца назад +1

      @@BJGvideos Eggs Zachary

  • @cikame
    @cikame 4 месяца назад +1098

    "Ok Tim here's the NES sound chip it can go bloop bleep bloop, see what you can do"
    Tim: *Hardcore electronica and guitar solos*

    • @Minority119
      @Minority119 4 месяца назад +126

      "okay tim, this is the sega genesis chip, it's... rough and sounds like farts, but we'll pay you for your services"
      tim follin: *straight rock opera with metal riffs*
      *game gets cancelled anyway*

    • @nore5888
      @nore5888 4 месяца назад +28

      If you want something thats also crazy for the nes/famicom listen to Death Match from Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei II

    • @Oscar97o
      @Oscar97o 4 месяца назад +29

      @@Minority119 The issue with the Megadrive isn't its sound chip, it's the set of samples the dev kits came with. They were terrible and most games used them for their music.

    • @sonicphoenix7
      @sonicphoenix7 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Oscar97oGEMS

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 4 месяца назад +5

      @@Minority119wow Genesis hate is crazy

  • @n-aera
    @n-aera 4 месяца назад +183

    TIM FOLLIN COMPOSED THIS IN A CAVE.
    WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS.

    • @t.b.cont.
      @t.b.cont. Месяц назад +10

      He was also in highschool/college and did this part time for extra cash, and stopped to pursue a career in BBC. He did make his own game a few years ago though called At Dead Of Night, it’s a horror game with an interesting mix of having a lot of live action visuals

    • @bekoblast
      @bekoblast Месяц назад +5

      he is tony stark of video game music industry

  • @Go_away__
    @Go_away__ 4 месяца назад +703

    The saddest part is that Tim said he stopped making music for video games because he was so underpaid and stressed out.
    Makes me wish someone would hire him again for a big budget game. I bet he’d kill it. The dude clearly understands theming.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 4 месяца назад +17

      Yeah

    • @madeupfred
      @madeupfred 4 месяца назад +50

      He's good at making music but none of what he makes is used thematically appropriately.

    • @Zadamanim
      @Zadamanim 4 месяца назад +23

      Big budget games pay their employees even worse than indie games sometimes lol, a lot of the budget goes into stuff like renting out a motion capture studio and marketing. Plus the big budget studios often are located in expensive areas, so you end up broke working for companies like Blizzard lol.

    • @PingerSurprise
      @PingerSurprise 4 месяца назад +20

      If I could I'd make a simple and cool 90s themed racing game where his music would be the focus, and all the money would go to him because he deserves it.

    • @CGFillertext
      @CGFillertext 3 месяца назад +13

      Go play At Dead of Night! It’s a horror FMV game that Tim made, and it’s amazing!

  • @ganymede4030
    @ganymede4030 4 месяца назад +409

    Dude the Pictionary theme has no business going that hard what the hell 😂

    • @Hyperbeaner
      @Hyperbeaner 4 месяца назад

      ITS JUST PICTIONARY! 😂

    • @tanall5959
      @tanall5959 3 месяца назад +11

      Tim and Geoff have only two settings: Sleep and WTF

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 16 дней назад

      ​@@tanall5959facts

  • @ultimamage3
    @ultimamage3 4 месяца назад +405

    There's a reason the playlist for Tiim's music is called "Tim Follin is a God".

  • @chriscombs21886
    @chriscombs21886 4 месяца назад +251

    ~22:10 "genesis does not have good audio"
    tim: * smirk *

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 4 месяца назад +67

      Anybody that thinks that has never heard a Sonic the Hedgehog soundtrack, a Streets of Rage soundtrack, or a Vectorman soundtrack.
      Man, even the QuackShot soundtrack is good!
      Never sleep on a good composer.

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 4 месяца назад +6

      Devilish: Prairie Theme.

    • @rocoX1234
      @rocoX1234 4 месяца назад +40

      People think genesis had shit audio is due to soa and american developers using GEMS for composing the music.

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 4 месяца назад +23

      @@rocoX1234 Dune 2, Earthworm Jim, and Comix Zone prove GEMS was just fine if you gave the sound team enough time to learn how to use it.
      Most multiplat developers just used the sample instruments provided with the program.

    • @Saxdude26
      @Saxdude26 4 месяца назад +5

      I love how Max immediately ate his own words. And HAPPILY so.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 4 месяца назад +526

    That Silver Surfer theme is legendary, it even made a pretty infamous Guitar Hero custom because the solo is so good and the final few seconds of it are SO INSANELY FAST.
    EDIT: Just FYI it's 6:56 to 7:00 and it's probably about like 30 notes per second
    EDIT 2: After about an hour of trying, I hit the solo. Mom are you proud of me yet.

    • @ArispeMatt
      @ArispeMatt 4 месяца назад +21

      If the Silver Surfer game went as hard as some of the music, it'd be a TAS only game.

    • @striderhanzo
      @striderhanzo 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ArispeMatt Or a Game Genie game.

    • @ArispeMatt
      @ArispeMatt 4 месяца назад +9

      @@striderhanzo It's not the tool assist most people mean when they say TAS,, but it's still technically a tool assisting.
      :p

    • @Hyperbeaner
      @Hyperbeaner 4 месяца назад

      Never played it but the song is in my video game music playlist. Its just so good

    • @TheGreatKingChiba
      @TheGreatKingChiba 4 месяца назад +3

      Silver Surfer was one of my first games as a kid... it's not that bad, it's just tons of memorization.
      I feel most people that can memorize Souls-like boss fight patterns can easily memorize the few tricky areas each level has.

  • @bazzjedimaster
    @bazzjedimaster 4 месяца назад +166

    First half of Plok!'s boss theme = "Oh no I'm locked with them!!"
    Second half of the theme when the beat drops = "No, they are locked in here with me"

    • @michelvanderlinden8363
      @michelvanderlinden8363 4 месяца назад +12

      I mean, have you seen Plok when he has his angry face up? God might show mercy but he doesn't.

    • @Brainwave101
      @Brainwave101 2 месяца назад +4

      First half: graveyard dance party
      Second half: *_"Do you like hurting other people?"_*

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 16 дней назад

      Facts

    • @bemasaberwyn55
      @bemasaberwyn55 16 дней назад

      ​@@michelvanderlinden8363it takes NO PRISONERS

  • @DJackson747
    @DJackson747 4 месяца назад +255

    Textbook definition of "did not need to go that hard"

    • @bloodyidit4506
      @bloodyidit4506 3 месяца назад +4

      if there is something life taught me,
      going hard is the only way to go.

  • @VertexTuner
    @VertexTuner 4 месяца назад +356

    Tim Follin, on raw sound generation hardware, was the king of mid-call interrupts, allowing a single channel output to seemingly play two notes at the same time, filling out the sound with a 'power chord' without wasting more of the limited channels available. His greatest use of this trick and the first to show his amazing coding skills was his work with the Sinclair ZX Spectrum.
    ZX Spectrum 48k - Chronos - Title Screen. Tim Follin composed a seeming multi channel song with percussion on a single channel 1BIT BEEPER! It is pure magic what he pulled off. Also Agent X on Spectrum. When you compare his work with other ZX Spectrum 48k 1bit beeper music, it's simply beyond their level. Not to be confused with 128k ZX Spectrum music (LED Storm was a 128k track), those used an AY chip which was much more versatile in sound generation with 3 channels. To show the level of difference in the beeper and the AY chip, 'Short Circuit' 48k version vs 128k version, which was also composed by a capable programmer in Fred Gray but his 48k version, while sounding good, has noticeable interrupts between each note while Follin's stuff is the work of digital wizardry that defies the hardware.
    For clarification, the 1Bit Beeper can literally and physically ONLY play 1 note at a time, with limited tonal ranges and no volume control.
    (edited for spelling errors).

    • @caseyogden7105
      @caseyogden7105 4 месяца назад +18

      was going to the comments to say something similar, seriously it is the most a 1 bit beeper can do and it is soooo good

    • @MARCOSHAK100
      @MARCOSHAK100 4 месяца назад +7

      My dude grabbed that one chip and made sweet sweet love giving birth to the best 8/16bit music ever

    • @Asterra2
      @Asterra2 4 месяца назад +7

      The irony about the 1-bit ZX Spectrum music is that they're easier on the ears if they've been recorded to tape, as that has the effect of softening the _extreme_ sibilance. Most renditions on RUclips are straight emulated and digitally perfect, which unfortunately means they're as harsh to the ears as it can possibly get. Incidentally, somebody on RUclips figured out how to separate the individual voices that were mixed for those 1-bit tunes. The only step left after that is to reiterate those individual voices so that instead of tiny 1-bit pulses they are something synthesized, analog and easy on the ears.

    • @duncansnowden6857
      @duncansnowden6857 4 месяца назад +4

      Came here to say the same. You can't talk about Tim without mentioning his work on the Spectrum (and the C64; infinitely more musical by default, but he made it *sing*).

    • @jessragan6714
      @jessragan6714 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah. I think I heard Chronos done with a PC beeper, and he somehow got music... music, out of that. The terrible shrieking speaker that lets out awful beeps to tell you your computer's messed up on boot. I was sitting there thinking, "That almost approaches a melody! But HOW?"

  • @fm_am4n
    @fm_am4n Месяц назад +38

    Rest in peace, Geoff. You and Tim were a dynamic duo making banger after banger.

  • @MrVonTouchdown
    @MrVonTouchdown 4 месяца назад +164

    Solstice misdirect goes so hard

    • @snowflakepillow8697
      @snowflakepillow8697 4 месяца назад +16

      Pokey battle in Earthbound but on the Title Screen...

  • @TheStann
    @TheStann 4 месяца назад +97

    Most composers were making music for video games, Tim thought he was auditioning for a prog band.

  • @olliezoop
    @olliezoop 4 месяца назад +80

    Tim Follin out here composing a beach theme in 7/8 time
    Nobody knew how to tickle the sound chip like this guy

  • @Beenkman1997
    @Beenkman1997 Месяц назад +18

    Rest in peace, Geoff. You and Tim made banger after banger.

  • @flmalegre
    @flmalegre 4 месяца назад +40

    _"it was just Pictionary, Tim."_

  • @YawleyG
    @YawleyG 4 месяца назад +208

    Tim Follin also did the OST for Ecco: Defender of the Future, and it's one of my favorites.

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +25

      Max listened to the Title Theme of that game also in the stream! ;)

    • @YawleyG
      @YawleyG 4 месяца назад +5

      @@Thiagomii Oh, noice, I must have scanned past it. Thank you!

    • @dragons_hook
      @dragons_hook 4 месяца назад +5

      It's fucking incredible. Like, almost every theme fits that game perfectly.

  • @primecoconut4204
    @primecoconut4204 4 месяца назад +183

    Literally ascended when Spider Man and the X-Men played, Tim went in haaaard

    • @pirajacinto4
      @pirajacinto4 4 месяца назад +32

      Gotta say though, if you were handed this game and went "Yo, make a song for SPIDER-MAN", I'm sure he was ready to kill it even more than he ever did before!

    • @XerosigmaZ
      @XerosigmaZ 4 месяца назад +13

      Literally listened to the whole soundtrack a few times 2 weeks ago then this video popped up. Thank you for uploading! I love Tim

  • @Tarkus_H
    @Tarkus_H 3 месяца назад +120

    That Solstice theme is like "Oh, we'll just start with some happy-go-lucky Dragon Quest bgm," and then suddenly a Yes album comes in and smacks you upside the head.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 3 месяца назад +5

      Wasn't Yes one of Uematsu's influences too?

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y 2 месяца назад +6

      @@BJGvideos Both Tim and Uematsu were heavily inspired by Prog Rock so I wouldn’t be surprised if they both had Yes inspirations.

  • @cuno6118
    @cuno6118 4 месяца назад +176

    I’m a max fan, and a huge Tim Follin fan, I never knew this happened lmao. This is so awesome

  • @Smokron
    @Smokron 4 месяца назад +81

    I feel like every gamer eventually goes down a Tim Follin rabbit hole. I'm happy it finally happened for you Max. I wish I remembered where I was when I first heard the Solstice opening theme haha

    • @rygar8bit2
      @rygar8bit2 4 месяца назад +6

      My cousin got it Christmas 1990, that's when I heard it first.

    • @flmalegre
      @flmalegre 4 месяца назад +8

      "Ah yes, a jaunty little tune for a wizard happily picking herbs on the forest, how quaint.
      SIKE, YOU HAVE THE POWER OF AEONS AT YOUR HANDS, SORCEROR!!!!!!"

  • @Atrahasis7
    @Atrahasis7 4 месяца назад +101

    The stuff he did is very prog rock. Hence why they sound like they take you in a journey. Very based.

    • @PacDork
      @PacDork 4 месяца назад +9

      Folin is the Rush of video games!

  • @Thiagomii
    @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +422

    Changed the title to "Tim & Geoff Follin" because some of the tracks Max listened are probably from Geoff too (Brother of Tim), but it's just a guess, both are at the same level of quality!
    PS: Max in later streams started mentioning "Tim and his brother" when talking about the music ;)

    • @Saxdude26
      @Saxdude26 4 месяца назад +14

      Those brothers work wonders with every soundtrack opportunity they get. They alongside Matt Furniss are underdogs of 90s music composition.

    • @oBuLLzEyEo1013
      @oBuLLzEyEo1013 4 месяца назад +2

      What's PD mean...?

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +3

      @@oBuLLzEyEo1013 Post Script, I thought it was the same as Spanish (Post Data).

    • @oBuLLzEyEo1013
      @oBuLLzEyEo1013 4 месяца назад +4

      @@Thiagomii Ooh I know post script I had never heard PD before. Spanish, huh? Well I'm Texmex so naturally I don't speak eat I just eat it...

    • @banonKING
      @banonKING 3 месяца назад +1

      Hah! Are you kids just discovering Tim Follin's game music?! For shame.

  • @RetroMatter
    @RetroMatter 4 месяца назад +163

    Tim Follin, Chris Huelsbeck and Olof Gustafsson are composer legends of 8/16 bit era. It's fascinating that these simple by today's standards songs still evoke emotion.

    • @sod0m
      @sod0m 4 месяца назад +24

      Absolutely all legends, but you forgot to put Jeroen Tel in there.

    • @Rysuko1
      @Rysuko1 4 месяца назад +10

      Thumbs up for mentioning Chris Huelsbeck

    • @blahdelablah
      @blahdelablah 4 месяца назад +18

      You're missing quite a few other legends off that list, including Rob Hubbard and David Wise.

    • @Minority119
      @Minority119 4 месяца назад +7

      I always find it curious how you can tell they're european composers because even in systems like the NES and such they still make it sound like an amiga chip

    • @blahdelablah
      @blahdelablah 4 месяца назад +8

      @Minority119 You're right. The C64 and the Amiga were both platforms that many European chiptune artists cut their teeth on and many composing tricks used to push the SID chip (in the C64) and the Paula chip (in the Amiga) worked on other 8/16 bit platforms too. As an example, the use of fast arpeggios to approximate the sounds of chords.

  • @shahs1221
    @shahs1221 4 месяца назад +130

    Now imagine Tim Follin composing for a fighting game. HOLY!

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 4 месяца назад +3

      Yeah!!!!!

    • @budakbaongsiah
      @budakbaongsiah 4 месяца назад +4

      IIRC he did for Sega CD

    • @classicboy97
      @classicboy97 2 месяца назад +3

      I wish someone made an MVC1 demake for the SNES and inserted the Spider-Man / X-men Arcade’s Revenge themes for the characters minus Wolverine for clown reasons lol

    • @AkaShindou2
      @AkaShindou2 2 месяца назад +1

      I want him to be a guest composer for a future FFXIV track...

  • @megamandrn001
    @megamandrn001 4 месяца назад +47

    "Pre-Todd MacFarlane Spider- man was a creeper!" THANK YOU Max. As usual, Max gets it

  • @ibukiosorio7930
    @ibukiosorio7930 Месяц назад +3

    RIP Geoff Follin. The legendary composer ❤

  • @Hatsworthful
    @Hatsworthful 4 месяца назад +41

    Tim's music work can be boils down to "either this goes hard or goes HARDEST"

  • @BigbluaceG4
    @BigbluaceG4 4 месяца назад +34

    39:43 oh my gooood that tiny little Spider-Man theme song motif, absolutely immaculate

    • @Chadius
      @Chadius 4 месяца назад +4

      Bionic Commando on the Amiga also has a few Star Wars motifs thrown in.

    • @Mr.Smiley_J
      @Mr.Smiley_J 4 месяца назад +3

      Oh shit! I never noticed that!

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody 4 месяца назад +25

    I once heard someone liken the NES sound chip to "a wooden block, 2 chanting monks, and a triangle"
    and they did this with it

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 4 месяца назад +36

    2:41 That song was composed by none other than Jeroen Tel, another phenomenal video game composer.

  • @hentaispyder
    @hentaispyder 4 месяца назад +35

    I love hearing these songs and thinking that they were the inspiration for Shovel Knights great soundtrack.

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +17

      You're correct! Tim Follin was an inspiration for sure!

    • @SullySadface
      @SullySadface 4 дня назад

      Tiny Rogues has some music that's almost this good

  • @PacDork
    @PacDork 4 месяца назад +22

    I love that people are discovering Plok. I’ve been singing its praises since it came out. It’s the single most amazing musical achievement on the SNES, IMO. It’s a fantastic platformer as well!

  • @joshuanagatoshi9081
    @joshuanagatoshi9081 4 месяца назад +17

    I think his work on the ZX spectrum will always be impressive. Like who looks at the audio capabilities of the spectrum and says, I think I can make this play the firebird suite? Tim Fn’ Follin that’s who! 😂

  • @miket7869
    @miket7869 4 месяца назад +11

    If Silver Surfer is ever to appear in a theoretical MVC4, that nes theme NEEDS to be his character theme, its too perfect!

  • @ArmoredGriffon
    @ArmoredGriffon 4 месяца назад +68

    His brother, Geoff Follin is just as good! Look up his music in the Gameboy game "Spot", specifically what plays when you decide your next move.

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +16

      So true! Also Tom & Jerry for the NES is a good one from him!

    • @reapervegas
      @reapervegas 4 месяца назад +8

      @@Thiagomii Wolverine for NES also has a killer soundtrack by him :D

  • @metalgamerjonny6410
    @metalgamerjonny6410 4 месяца назад +17

    every time someone discovers tim follins music, an angel gets their wings

  • @DarkPuIse
    @DarkPuIse 4 месяца назад +41

    Tim Follin is simply a god, and I've had the good fortune to be enjoying him from the 80s on. When everyone else was just cranking out some tunes, he was writing pocket symphonies.
    Lots of people could compose for those soundchips, but few could make them sing in ways that absolutely defied expectations and made you wonder "How the hell...?" while you listened to it, and you had no idea where it would go next - but that you were in for a ride.
    Tim Follin is one of those people who could do that.
    It's a certain kind of magic that's lost nowadays now that everything is simply streaming audio. But it's great to see people discovering him, and getting the credit he deserves.

  • @albinkarlsson9943
    @albinkarlsson9943 3 месяца назад +5

    It nice that every Tim follin album came a free game.

  • @randommaster06
    @randommaster06 4 месяца назад +47

    Game devs: "Tim, is this a normal song?"
    Tim: "Yes, it's a Very Normal Song."

  • @burtenplays
    @burtenplays 3 месяца назад +5

    Love his music. I wonder if people getting into this now is gonna get more people into progressive rock. ELP, Jethro Tull, Yes, early Genesis with Peter Gabriel, Gentle Giant, Camel, Rush go get it.

  • @GODZILLAmonsoon
    @GODZILLAmonsoon 4 месяца назад +10

    Rush. Genesis. Supertramp. King Crimson. *FOLLIN.*

  • @sdzero
    @sdzero 4 месяца назад +26

    I have a Follin story. So my brother and I saved up around $70 or $80 dollars one summer and we had to figure out which game we were going to buy at K-Mart. We were really getting into Marvel Comics cartoon shows at that time in the mid 90s. So when we saw Spider-Man and X-Men Arcade's Revenge SNES in the kiosk it was the perfect combo. So we threw down $70 dollars (plus tax..😢) and the game was not very good. It was easy at first with Spider-Man and the difficulty spikes when you get to choose the X-Men stages. But...we never sold the game. The music was far better than most games we had on snes at the time. It really saved the game. Not to mention the cool poster it came with. Anyway, the Follins are amazing at what they do.

  • @MaxDrawsStuff
    @MaxDrawsStuff 4 месяца назад +102

    Finally somebody uploaded this on RUclips! Tried to find this in Twitch vods, and it is such a pain in the butt. Thank you so much!

    • @TheNameCannotBeFound
      @TheNameCannotBeFound 4 месяца назад +1

      Have you ever found it? I’d love to see it :(

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@TheNameCannotBeFoundCheck the description of the vid ;)

  • @pcachu
    @pcachu 4 месяца назад +17

    Tim Follin's picture is in the pictionary under "You Didn't Have To Go That Hard".

  • @SirCaco
    @SirCaco 4 месяца назад +15

    Apparently for Pictionary, he used like half of the watchamacallits he had available to him, so he made music THAT crazy without even using the full capabilities of the system.

  • @Zeithri
    @Zeithri 4 месяца назад +9

    As someone who owned *Solstice* as a kid... I'm glad to say that I was one.
    The ingame music is still my go-to song for dungeon crawling.

    • @Somerandomjingleberry
      @Somerandomjingleberry 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah the actual song that plays during gameplay is a lot less intense than the famous title theme but I still love it a lot too! It actually does nail the creepy crypt vibe pretty well

  • @robbyrobot3303
    @robbyrobot3303 4 месяца назад +79

    The Genesis has fantastic audio capabilities. It has a yamaha chip used in many keyboards. The problem is most western devs used a shitty music library tool.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 4 месяца назад +16

      Unfortunately Max (and the online retro gaming community at a large) is a pretty big diehard Nintendo guy, the internet has kinda conditioned everyone to just believe Nintendo was always better than Sega in every way

    • @robbyrobot3303
      @robbyrobot3303 4 месяца назад +13

      @@THENAMEISQUICKMAN it's true, tho Sega of America did provide the bad sound tools to devs so they should take some blame also.
      I think the Genesis actually sounds better when tracks are tailored to it, because the SNES has a lot of reverb by virtue of sampling. Look up Mega Man X remixes on Genesis and they sound amazing, way cleaner.

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +24

      ​@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Weird you say this because Max is more of a SEGA guy since the beginning

    • @robbyrobot3303
      @robbyrobot3303 4 месяца назад +12

      @@Thiagomii yeah, it's an understandable mistake to make when in reality many games do sound horrible on the Genesis. I used to believe like Max that the hardware itself was just inferior. Sega of America gave western devs a tool suite called GEMS which made it much easier to write or import midi into, but it usually sounded awful.

    • @Zeithri
      @Zeithri 4 месяца назад

      @@THENAMEISQUICKMANIt's weird that you say this when you don't sub to me 😏

  • @themadmallard
    @themadmallard 4 месяца назад +34

    Thought there was an interview where Tim said he actively hated working with the limited hardware, and still does and never went back to it from each successive generation. kinda funny.

    • @fidgetypenguin8153
      @fidgetypenguin8153 3 месяца назад +1

      Weird I thought he said he loved to tinker with it. Can’t find the interview tho, so it was just a rumor I heard

    • @peteryeeterson5766
      @peteryeeterson5766 11 дней назад

      @@fidgetypenguin8153 Love to tinker with it, hate the multitude of limitations

  • @Frosted_Moontips
    @Frosted_Moontips 4 месяца назад +32

    I wish I were HALF the composer Tim is, like DAYUMM dude~

  • @MarioGMan25
    @MarioGMan25 4 месяца назад +16

    I wonder if Max listened to TimeTrax...
    AW YEAH BABY THERE IT IS.

  • @UltimaKeyMaster
    @UltimaKeyMaster 4 месяца назад +84

    "The Genesis has DOGSHIT soundchips in it"
    Go play Phantasy Star 4 and say that again, Max-

    • @ZhouTie47
      @ZhouTie47 4 месяца назад +28

      I was thinking Streets of Rage myself. But it's not like the statement is inherently wrong though.

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 4 месяца назад +34

      The problem with the Genesis sound chip is, not many composers knew how to work it... Especially the majority of the Western composers

    • @nickfarace9339
      @nickfarace9339 4 месяца назад +14

      @@esmooth919 yeah its so wild to hear the 80% of games that all have that exact same sound in their Genesis soundtracks, then the few who knew how to use it make it sound like a COMPLETELY different system.

    • @psyanah4542
      @psyanah4542 4 месяца назад

      GEMS has been the worst thing to happen for the Sega Genesis, it's the program a lot of companies started using that made every OST sound bland and shitty. The Yamaha chip inside it is actually great - check out Xenocrisis Genesis OST by Savaged Regime for top tier use of it

    • @jju00
      @jju00 4 месяца назад +10

      I was thinking of Earthworm Jim, Streets of Rage, Rock n Roll Racing Genesis (Tim only did the SNES version) and a whole lot more.
      The problem is not the quality of the sound chip; it's the fact that it's FM Synthesis, a very complicated techinique to understand fully.

  • @malictory
    @malictory 4 месяца назад +18

    I'm glad folks enjoy Plok more nowadays:3
    Remember that there's a sequel comic by series creators, too! It's called Plok: The Exploding Man:3

  • @justingoers
    @justingoers 4 месяца назад +8

    That Silver Surfer theme has been rippin' in my brain since childhood. It's so good.

  • @isaiahhellems7901
    @isaiahhellems7901 4 месяца назад +28

    Max didn't even let some of the music cook to the good parts😢

  • @pixeljacked8047
    @pixeljacked8047 4 месяца назад +17

    Tim worked up in till the early 2000s, last game music he made was for the skarky and hutch game, he is now a photographer, and has directed 2 FMV games

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +6

      For what I know, his last work in the industry was on the Lemmings game from 2006. Then he started making his own games.

    • @Somerandomjingleberry
      @Somerandomjingleberry 3 месяца назад +1

      Didn’t Markiplier play one of his FMV games? At Dark of Night I think it’s called?

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  3 месяца назад

      @@Somerandomjingleberry That's right!

  • @Brauniersc
    @Brauniersc 2 месяца назад +2

    I remember when i first heard of tim follin. That shit blew my mind

  • @Slagomancer
    @Slagomancer 4 месяца назад +5

    It's been a delight seeing different folks in the internet-o-sphere find out about the absolute legends that are the Follins.

  • @thestripedmenace
    @thestripedmenace 4 месяца назад +16

    Imagine Silver Surfer gets to be in the next Mahvel
    And his theme is an arrangement of the NES game's theme
    By the Follins themselves

  • @PlungerMettaur
    @PlungerMettaur 4 месяца назад +7

    Yeah, what Tim and Geoff were able to do with early video game soundchips is borderline magic

  • @ItsmeAz
    @ItsmeAz 4 месяца назад +11

    I've been into this music for years, and for just as long, I've had people dismissing it as not "real music." While I don't need validation, it's refreshing to finally see someone just get it.

  • @mstop4
    @mstop4 4 месяца назад +13

    Funny how Barry Leitch (another amazing game music composer) got a bit of a cameo because someone recommended the Top Gear OST to Max.
    I know Max isn't primarily a VGM reaction content creator, but I wish more of them out there on RUclips would listen to the Plok! OST. It's still holds up as a masterpiece to this day.

    • @Chadius
      @Chadius 4 месяца назад +2

      Top Gear is good stuff man.

  • @isbilen1000
    @isbilen1000 4 месяца назад +10

    I came across Plok! through Silvagunner, and it's one of the best discoveries I've made in my music experience ever.
    Solstice's soundtrack really made me think how faithful Jake Kaufman's composition in Shovel Knight is to NES and SNES soundtracks.
    The absolute first thing I shouted when Plok Beach theme came up was "THIS IS JUST DOA XTREME BEFORE DOA XTREME"
    TimeTrax was just all-in Comix-Zone X Streets of Rage.
    God, Plok Boss theme, again, the Silvagunner mashup with Roller Mobster is absolutely perfect, they play off eachother SO GOOD

  • @henrygreen2096
    @henrygreen2096 4 месяца назад +18

    I don’t know if Tim is still alive or not but I hope he somehow see this or at least just just knows how much and how many people appreciate his work. The tracks he made are something you can only make with talent AND passion.
    There are video games with better audio capabilities and higher budgets that don’t have nearly this level of interesting music composition.

  • @drcidd8153
    @drcidd8153 3 месяца назад +2

    Tim Follin is the only reason a lot of these games ever got played more than once. Legendary.

  • @Mocafrito
    @Mocafrito 4 месяца назад +6

    every time i hear someone talking about the GOD that is tim follin, i can't help but remember that time i got gifted a copy of starky and hutch for Pc, it was one of my first pc games, and everytime i heard those godly beats i couldn't help but thinking "huh, must be standard in games to have music this good" it wasn't the case tim follin just GOES HARD no matter the genre of music or the genre of game, ITS INSANE

  • @Dieci-9
    @Dieci-9 4 месяца назад +20

    Thank you so much for this. I also discovered Tim and Geoff thanks to this video and my god they did some great job.
    Feels like whenever someone wanted to make some music that blew the minds of the players they'd just go: "Call the brothers!"

  • @vashido1866
    @vashido1866 4 месяца назад +38

    this was in 2021?? It feels like I was watching this stream just last year holy shit
    thanks so much for uploading this!

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад +4

      Me too! Time passes so fast!

    • @professoryeetus8955
      @professoryeetus8955 2 месяца назад

      i just remembered that 2021 wasn't a year ago

  • @TheFireSword87
    @TheFireSword87 4 месяца назад +8

    you can really tell Tim loves prog rock

  • @makotroid108
    @makotroid108 4 месяца назад +5

    Finally another Tim discovery stream, Northernlions stream was last one i remember.

  • @Damian_1989
    @Damian_1989 4 месяца назад +9

    28:17 YES i knew Max would stumble upon Ghouls n' Ghosts eventually, that theme SLAPS

    • @Mr.Smiley_J
      @Mr.Smiley_J 4 месяца назад +2

      I remember singing the praises of this man's music and showing a friend a playlist, and this came on. Both of us were confused, no way this music came from a console that old, we skipped it because we thought we found a mistakenly labeled song. Shit is wild!

  • @cosmosofinfinity
    @cosmosofinfinity 4 месяца назад +6

    Follin in love with Follin

  • @FifthOfNovember_Original
    @FifthOfNovember_Original 4 месяца назад +18

    Thanks for the upload! I love when people discover these old BANGERS and show them love that they deserve

  • @Marceles45
    @Marceles45 4 месяца назад +4

    Gambit’s theme is one my favorite pieces of video game music, so glad someone in chat mentioned it

  • @jaliahsnyder4839
    @jaliahsnyder4839 4 месяца назад +5

    I’ve been looking for this stream for so long. Thanks for the re-upload.

  • @theredpriest
    @theredpriest 4 месяца назад +9

    dude! this is one of my favorite reactions of his! thanks for uploading this!

  • @Pang51Oakland
    @Pang51Oakland 4 месяца назад +15

    I’ve been looking for this VOD for a while now cause I was half asleep listening to the stream but I always wanted to go back and find these songs. Thank you so much

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople 4 месяца назад +5

    Finally, people are paying more attention to the FOLLIN BROTHER'S EPIC MUSIC!!!!! :D

  • @legreatmumzeh
    @legreatmumzeh 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for uploading this. I've been thinking about this part of the stream for a while, but I was never able to find it.

  • @Dark_Jaguar
    @Dark_Jaguar 3 месяца назад +3

    Another fan is Follin for them.

  • @RanDawei21
    @RanDawei21 4 месяца назад +1

    This was a such a treat, thanks for this. Now I’m gonna check out that playlist myself.

  •  3 месяца назад +2

    Follins didn't follin' around! It's insane what they could do with that actually pretty simple sound chip. Like... holy fuck, they were insane!

  • @Mr.Smiley_J
    @Mr.Smiley_J 4 месяца назад +3

    This is my first discovery of the soundtrack to Spiderman and the X-Men in Arcade's revenge. I've struggled to play that game for years and this soundtrack was just background noise to my pain. Now, hearing it without having a brain aneurysm trying beat that impossible game, it's pure joy. Wow! I have to listen to it again on it's own.

  • @kiricappuchin
    @kiricappuchin 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for uploading these highlights! I giggled when his cursor starting dancing along to Creepy Crag lol.

  • @LSajin
    @LSajin 4 месяца назад +1

    I've been talking about this stream since it happened. Thanks for uploading and editing it!

  • @SuperKokuJin916
    @SuperKokuJin916 4 месяца назад +5

    The Uninitiated: "Genesis has 🐶 💩 audio".
    Those Who Know: "Really? 🐶💩 audio, huh?"
    - Streets of Rage trilogy
    - Thunder Force 2 - 4
    - Phantasy Star 4
    - Quackshot
    - Devil Crush/Dragon's Fury
    - Rocket Knight Adventures (Stage 7 ❤)
    - Eternal Champions
    - Comix Zone
    - Gunstar Heroes
    - Alien Soldier
    It's a real shame the only Genesis/MD game (Time Trax) Tim Follin composed for never got officially released. He should've also composed the Genesis version of Arcade's Revenge. According to interviews, he really liked composing for Genesis!
    He's still one of my fave composers since hearing Silver Surfer during its release.
    Even his earliest stuff on the ZX Spectrum was quite impressive for 1-ch audio originally intended strictly for boop and blips. Agent X, Combat School, etc.
    He also did Ecco on Dreamcast, and Starsky & Hutch on PS2/GC.

  • @RS-mu3ci
    @RS-mu3ci 4 месяца назад +5

    Tim & Geoff Follin were true wizards of the hardware they were limited to. Truly amazing music on some bad games that made them drastically more enjoyable bc the tunes.

  • @De_an
    @De_an 4 месяца назад +5

    One of my favorite things to do to my friends is show them the insanity of Pictionary NES. They never see it coming.

  • @scrungo7610
    @scrungo7610 4 месяца назад +3

    My sister and I have been blessed and inspired by Plok since we got it as kids on the snes. The soundtrack is unbelievable

  • @CallMeSugarMilk
    @CallMeSugarMilk 4 месяца назад +2

    Warms my heart to see Max discovering and listening to a lot of Tim and Geoff Follin’s work during the NES-SNES days. They truly made some of the best tracks/bangers and had no reason to go that hard but they let the Follin brothers cook in the studio 🔥

  • @MusicInMe754
    @MusicInMe754 4 месяца назад +1

    This was a damn good segment to watch, especially as fan of both Max and the Follin Brothers. Thank you very much, Thiagomii! 🙏

  • @user-gj8fx3vr2y
    @user-gj8fx3vr2y 3 месяца назад +1

    this was an awesome video man thanks for this

  • @noRagretz
    @noRagretz 4 месяца назад +1

    Didn’t know about this, thanks for the video!

  • @sephiroth21347
    @sephiroth21347 4 месяца назад +6

    Thank you for making a vid on this! I remember seeing Max I believe re-reacting to this clip a few weeks ago? All the music slapped

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад

      Are you serious?! I'd love to see that! If you have more info I'll appreciate it!

    • @sephiroth21347
      @sephiroth21347 4 месяца назад +1

      Well like the OG stream when I say clip. I know I saw Max listening to Tim Follin stuff recently, not 2021 lol @@Thiagomii

    • @Thiagomii
      @Thiagomii  4 месяца назад

      Yess, just wondering where did you saw him re-reacting to the clip, if you remember of course ;)

  • @Guydude777
    @Guydude777 4 месяца назад +1

    Ahh what a glorious day! That's a dozen new songs to add to my playlist. Thanks!

  • @RikouHogashi
    @RikouHogashi 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so darn much for posting this my dude!