How to Clean a metal File Clogged with Aluminum

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
  • Tip on how to clean a metal file.
    1/2" copper pipe used

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  • @bradymcphail9690
    @bradymcphail9690 8 лет назад +51

    It takes a Redheaded kid from Utah 2 minutes to explain to me what I couldn't figure out for myself in 40 years of metalworking. Not being a smart-allic, Thank you! that will truly make a world of difference in how I view using files.

    • @Bodragon
      @Bodragon 4 года назад +2

      You're certainly no *_Smart Alec_*
      That's patently obvious.
      >

    • @taviolancieri7486
      @taviolancieri7486 2 года назад +1

      After scraping with soft copper soak it in a 10 to 1 water and sulfuric acid solution "Drain'O works" for about an hour then transfer to a 10 to 1 water and baking soda solution to neutralize the acid and voila you have a brand new file

    • @dfu1685
      @dfu1685 Год назад

      Really? I just found out how to clean(from the video) the aluminum off; then how to pretty them all up!!! Y’all are sweet Blessings ❤

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад +10

    I give credit to the person I learned it from. Thanks for taking the time to comment and watch.

  • @bikerdude1959feb
    @bikerdude1959feb 10 лет назад +3

    40 years in the auto repair business and I'm still learning new stuff, thanks for the tip man.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  10 лет назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. Glad I could show you something new.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад +2

    Awesome. The first time I did mine they not only had aluminum but gunk in all the grooves. I was amazed how well they worked (of course they were well used used when I go them).

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад +1

    So I guess you had a busy Saturday cleaning files. :) . Thanks for watching.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks for watching. Maybe someday it will be useful.

  • @Horus9339
    @Horus9339 Год назад +1

    If you ever see that Man again please tell him thank you. That was such an easy way to fix a file, K.I.S.S. at its best. Have a great day Sir.

  • @taurruth
    @taurruth 2 года назад +1

    After so many years !!!
    You are the man!
    Until today I had to keep separate set of files just for aluminium.
    This really works!

  • @three3Paws
    @three3Paws Год назад

    Great copper pipe hack. Been contracting 40+ years & this has always driven me crazy… and your video was hard to find.
    A machinist told me the chalk & to file a copper pipe before, which sort of worked, but seeing it flattened, using it as a handle, and that it is just a file comb makes total sense.
    FYI got a ‘65 HP 427 (Ford of course) out of box from Ford with 4 hours hydroplane racing on it. Piston connecting rod broke and snapped off the cylinder skirt really close to the ring travel, but not quite…
    He had 4 ready to go on the docks, just didn’t want to go through the trouble for what looked like certain death.
    The guy said if it doesn’t blow oil, I owed him $500; otherwise I have to haul it to the dump.
    It’s now is in a ‘67 Mustang fastback with dual quads.
    And he’s $500- richer.
    Thanks for your hack!

  • @MsBeguine
    @MsBeguine 11 лет назад +3

    Great classic tip - I also soak mine in regular grocery store (5%) white vinegar overnight, it helps clean any surface oxidation and sharpens the bite a little.

  • @2LateIWon
    @2LateIWon 11 лет назад

    I got to playing around in the garage this weekend and just for kicks and giggles I caked up a file just so I can clean it LOL Works great!!! This is the best way Ive ever used to clean them.

  • @dmaher2007
    @dmaher2007 10 лет назад +17

    To replenish a clogged grinding wheel, use a cut off piece of garden hose while the wheel is running, it will remove any buildup of material.

  • @bigoldgrizzly
    @bigoldgrizzly 3 года назад +2

    Best way I found is to soak it in lye (caustic soda in UK)
    This will dissolve aluminium but does not touch steel at all - it will also de-grease the file very efficiently, Using french chalk , or even talcum powder, is much better than 'blackboard chalk'
    A Proper file card is way better than a standard wire brush, cheap to buy and worth every penny.

  • @klangon
    @klangon 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for this video. In my profession, we file sterling silver daily. I have a tool from the early '70s that's a piece of nickel, or german silver that's hammered out, like the copper, to work in the very same way. Keep thinning it down to work on finer file cuts.

  • @nickh9084
    @nickh9084 2 года назад

    This is genius! Tried it out and it worked like a charm. I managed to rescue a couple of files that were consigned to the dustbin. Thank you 🙏

  • @brapamaldi
    @brapamaldi 3 года назад

    this 8 year old video is still teaching people useful skills. thanks a heap man!

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thank you for the comment and watching.

  • @matttrotta57
    @matttrotta57 11 лет назад

    Work was throwing away 25-30 files and replacing them with new. I took the old ones home not seeing anything wrong with them. That was 25 years ago and I still use them. Good enough for home use I said. I don't know off hand if they are clogged but if they are I know how to clean them now. Thanks for the tip.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks for watching.

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable 7 лет назад

    I knew I'd find an answer to my question here. I bought a bunch of old files but there all pretty used up. This trick will help a lot. Once again, you saved the day.

  • @hudsonriverlee
    @hudsonriverlee 5 лет назад +1

    This is amazing. We file aluminum all day long at work. We make antenna parts out of copper, brass, aluminum and some steel, steel mainly on the antenna body. Most of the files are clogged. Many of the files make quick work on aluminum. My boss will be very happy to know he does not have to throw out any more files.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  5 лет назад

      Try it out, let me know what you think.

  • @dfu1685
    @dfu1685 2 года назад +1

    Dude! Thank you so much!!!!! Until now I had no idea how to get that stuff out besides using a brass brush and working at each area for hours. Oh my gosh I can’t wait to try and do this! Again, thank you for having the sand to post this. You are awesome and such a help.

  • @SparkRattle
    @SparkRattle 5 лет назад

    Jeebus!! Just so you know, this saved my fine modeller metal file from the heap! It had krazy glue stuck in it and is stubbornly resistant to being cleaned off but I used a soft material like flat piece of styrene and it works!! Great tip.

  • @shmibal
    @shmibal 11 лет назад

    Great tip! Can't wait to clean my favorite file, clogged it today while filing copper pipe. Thank you for taking the time to share.

  • @buck546
    @buck546 2 года назад

    Good info never gets old. I have been making animal silhouette metal art using trim coil as a hobby for a few years now and have had problems with my Dremel tool cutting bits getting clogged. I have been using a brass wire brush in an attempt to clean the bits with little success. After watching your video I thought this might work on the bits if it works on files. Tried it and it did. Thanks for posting. This will greatly increase the cutting life of the bits.

  • @richardgriffitts601
    @richardgriffitts601 4 года назад +1

    You sir are an awesome person! Thanks for the knowledge. This is still helping people in 2019.

  • @boltspeedman278
    @boltspeedman278 11 лет назад

    usually whenever i break out the pressure washer i spray them,However in the winter this is perfect. Will not damage your file since copper is softer. Great vid.

  • @BulletmanDoom
    @BulletmanDoom 9 лет назад

    Another good video. I was told years ago that if you don't lift on the backstroke they clean themselves. I'm not convinced about that one. I'll definitely be giving this a try.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  9 лет назад

      Big Ian Builds Interesting, I'll have to try that as well.

  • @misteragb7558
    @misteragb7558 8 лет назад +20

    You can also use brass bullet shells

  • @gabechavez678
    @gabechavez678 3 года назад

    Great. I have a couple of files that were grandpa’s. Used the wire brush now I can finish it with the copper. Thank you for sharing

  • @yellownp22541
    @yellownp22541 10 лет назад +5

    Once again you have done it again. Highly impressed. keep up the great work.

  • @rafasacha2766
    @rafasacha2766 10 лет назад +12

    Good tip, but I'd stick to the copper thingy only. Wire brushes are no good for files in my opinion. I would try a brass brush though.

  • @michaelgregg1421
    @michaelgregg1421 Год назад

    Thank you! I'd been looking for someone with the knowledge to clean a file.

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 11 лет назад

    Thats a smashing way to clean them, thanks mate :-)
    At school in metalwork class, we were taught to clean them with a fine spike, the teacher called it "Pining".
    Hell your way is much better :-), multitooth pinning :-)
    Your a good teacher.

  • @Lanninglongarmmowing
    @Lanninglongarmmowing 9 лет назад +7

    You could also use that copper piece you made as a welding spoon. Great video!!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  9 лет назад +1

      Love2boat92 You're on it! I actually use it as a welding spoon as well.

    • @Lanninglongarmmowing
      @Lanninglongarmmowing 9 лет назад

      sixtyfiveford​ Hahaha. I wonder if you and me are the only ones who thought of that? Ha!

  • @coreysheets4862
    @coreysheets4862 3 года назад +1

    Wish I would've found this last weekend when I spent over 3 hrs with a dental pick on a flea mkt find of 10 Simonds Red Tang files. Thank you. My mind is blown. 😂

    • @LitoGeorge
      @LitoGeorge Год назад

      Yeah, I've used the picks to clean out stubborn glue, paint or gunk from previous owners too -even after multi day soak in cleaning vinegar to get rid of most of it

  • @irishman083
    @irishman083 7 лет назад

    Just found your video. Thanks for taking the time to explain this. I now will have a solution to my gummed up files!

  • @rmschrader36
    @rmschrader36 6 лет назад

    Awesome trick! I just grabbed my $10 dollar welding spoon from Harbor Freight and found another purpose for it! Great video!

  • @andrewpalange4942
    @andrewpalange4942 8 лет назад +15

    Great tip, but what's funny is how you're struggling to hold on to the file as you clean it on the anvil portion of your vice! Sometimes we overlook the simplest of things.

    • @dirtroad4229
      @dirtroad4229 3 года назад

      I assume you mean he should put the file in the vise? I noticed that on the previous video I watched.
      These guys have full shops & I'm just an amateur 😆

    • @patkauther9584
      @patkauther9584 2 месяца назад

      I catch myself doing the same thing! After a few choice words to myself, usually about myself, I put the dang thing in the vise!

  • @matthewrinehart2367
    @matthewrinehart2367 3 года назад

    New to me. You made my day. The guys in my shop continually fuck up and misuse tools and rely on me to keep things working. My only suggestion is that you apply a wooden handle to the scraper. Take it to Shark Tank and make a mint.

  • @ronsutter5246
    @ronsutter5246 7 лет назад +1

    THANK YOU s I have over 200+ files an i never would've thought to use copper as a cleaning tool for them.I can now clean out all my old Nicholson files,that i saved over the years not willing to toss or retire them.My hat is off to you !

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    I'm glad you liked it. Let me know if you do try it. -Moe

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks for watching. Can we expect any videos this year?

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks for watching Joe.

  • @jerrystark3587
    @jerrystark3587 4 года назад

    Steel wire brushes will clean files but they also dull the file pretty quickly. Brass wire brushes can be used more safely. This tip about using copper pipe in this manner is a good one! Brass also works.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks and thanks for commenting.

  • @barthanes1
    @barthanes1 2 года назад

    I thought a file card would do it so I bought one. Didn't work. I've been scraping them out with a needle. This looks much faster. Thanks for the tip.

  • @starforged
    @starforged 10 лет назад +2

    Great job as always. When you're done cleaning files and other bare metal do you coat them anything to keep them from rusting or tarnishing?

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  10 лет назад +1

      WD-40 or a light oil seams to be the best.

  • @iceman22st
    @iceman22st 11 лет назад

    Good tip. I use a file card, which is a wire brush actually made for file cleaning. I also spray the file with WD40 before filing aluminum, then just start filing again. I'll have to give this a try and compare.

  • @zyplex1
    @zyplex1 11 лет назад

    That's a really food tip, I actually bitched and cursed about getting my files cleaned. I never heard about this method. Fantastic just learned a simple little trick. Thx a bunch!!!

  • @tropicalspeed
    @tropicalspeed Год назад

    Thanks for the tip.
    Works well even on fine, Swiss-pattern needle files, Cut-4 thru 0 but the brass cleaning tool I made is quite a bit smaller.

  • @krautgirl65
    @krautgirl65 7 лет назад

    Thanks for this video!...I bought a bunch of old jewelers files and this will really help me get them nice and clean!

  • @brauliorivera3990
    @brauliorivera3990 10 лет назад

    Nice! I wish I saw your video before I bought a file cleaner from home depot. Thanks for sharing.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  10 лет назад

      Braulio Rivera Thanks. It's a handy trick to know.

  • @zyplex1
    @zyplex1 11 лет назад

    Tried using this method on my old files , and it worked fantastic. Once again thx for the Moe.

  • @MrHeatscore94
    @MrHeatscore94 7 лет назад

    not sure if you will read this but another great way to clean your files(as a machinist who works with aluminum) is to leave it in a cup of sulfuric acid, aka drain cleaner over night, rinse and its as good as new, they used to think it sharped files.

  • @keygruin
    @keygruin 10 лет назад +2

    Nice trick. I've always used a hardwood stick but copper is nice too.

  • @dirtroad4229
    @dirtroad4229 3 года назад

    Wouldn't you notice a difference from the chalk when you clean the files, if there is any? Also, would it be worth using aluminum, since it's even softer than copper? Thanks

  • @mopeooo
    @mopeooo 9 лет назад +14

    Try spraying your file with WD40 before you file aluminum. Keep it wet and the shit don't stick. Yours is a good one too

  • @dustyanderson1
    @dustyanderson1 11 лет назад

    You are welcome!!! Think my RUclips video days are over...but sure enjoy the heck out of watching yours. You sure have some great videos. I look forward to each one as they are some of the best how to videos out there. I know it takes a lot of time.and effort to do them too, so thank you!!! Take care, dusty

  • @eliotdudley4551
    @eliotdudley4551 10 лет назад

    Thanks for the tip. For finishing you may find that wire brushing with ATF followed by a rinse with brake cleaner solvent really takes care of gummy surface grime.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Yeah, thanks for watching.

  • @bryans9299
    @bryans9299 7 лет назад

    I dumped my 12 inch nicholson filer in a bucket filled with diesel fuel for 15 minutes. Brushed it with a steel brush. All the debris came off easily. Filer looks and feels brand new. No harm done.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Glad you liked it. Thanks for subscribing. -Moe

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Let me know if you try it.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks for watching Matt. -Moe

  • @LitoGeorge
    @LitoGeorge Год назад

    Have you ever rust blued a file to increase rust resistance? I did it to a rasp recently and while it looks great and performed great, I don't know about the longevity of the treatment.

  • @kirkendauhl6990
    @kirkendauhl6990 5 лет назад

    I haven’t run into the problem yet but now I’m definitely going to save this video in case I forget.

  • @runkert
    @runkert 4 года назад

    This saved me a ton of frustration. Much obliged!

  • @gloriaespinosa7826
    @gloriaespinosa7826 7 лет назад

    Thank you for your advice. I will clean my files following your directions.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks for commenting

  • @telstarvision1509
    @telstarvision1509 7 лет назад

    this tip is absolutly brilliant.many thanks.

  • @SplendidProgress
    @SplendidProgress 13 дней назад

    Thanks for taking the time to show us. 🙂

  • @GmGarlo
    @GmGarlo 11 лет назад

    i have a drawer of files i am going to clean right now . thanks for sharing another great tip.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    You're too kind. Thanks for watching Zyplex.-Moe

  • @tritowns
    @tritowns 11 лет назад

    I tend to use grinders... lots and lots of grinders... but i have filed Aluminum in the past and have never gotten them totally clean... this will help

  • @not2fast4u2c
    @not2fast4u2c 4 года назад

    I have got to try this ..I just spent too much time with an utility razor blade and acetone ..Worked but takes too long

  • @E1nsty
    @E1nsty 3 года назад

    best knowledge I received all year

  • @Migman77
    @Migman77 11 лет назад

    Thank you for posting this video. I do a lot of filing on my welding projects and this worked great for me. Thank you

  • @jimnolongertendsbar2771
    @jimnolongertendsbar2771 10 лет назад +2

    Will this also work on a file mucked up with laminate or resin? If not any suggestions?

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  10 лет назад +2

      Jim Tendsbar Cured Resin; I would think Acetone would soften it to the point where you could easily use this method to clean up a file. This method may also do it without anything else. Let me know how it works out.

  • @mikemcgraw5175
    @mikemcgraw5175 9 лет назад

    This is a great way to mechanically remove metal buildup. Another YT video shows a fellow who created a similar tool from a large nail. He flattened the end with a sledge to about 1/2" wide. That material might provide somewhat harder teeth.
    In addition to mechanical cleaning, you can restore the sharpness to many files with an acid dip. Search YT for the couple of vids that demonstrate this method.
    Essentially, start with a cleaned file, removing all debris that might hang onto acid droplets. Then make a dilute (10%) solution of sulphuric acid and water. Suspend or stand your files in that solution, not touching each other, for an hour. A good way to do this is to cement a cap on one end of a length of 2 1/2" PVC pipe and clamp that upright (in a Workmate or broad wood clamp.) After the soaking period, thoroughly rinse each file with a 100% solution of baking soda and water (mix in baking soda until it stops dissolving in the water) to neutralize all acid. Then dry the files thoroughly.
    You can also use store bought vinegar for a 12-24 hour soak and etch (acetic acid is weaker than sulphuric so the etch is much slower.) You can also rig up the files so they are vertically suspended in the etch bath. Another etch solution can be made with citric acid, which is apparently sold in a dry powder at hardware? or woodworking stores.
    Two notes: First, the fumes created, especially by the sulphuric dip, will cause any iron items nearby to start rusting, so do this outside or away from your other tools. Second, work carefully around any acid. Wear old clothes, gloves, and eye protection. Add the acid to the water, not the other way around, and do it slowly to avoid any splashes.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  9 лет назад

      Mike McGraw I've heard of the acid etch method but have never tried it. I'll have to give it a whirl.

  • @incorporeality-channel7817
    @incorporeality-channel7817 2 года назад

    I always did this with my finger nail 😂 but it only got some of it sometimes, this is genius! Going to try it now

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    If you do try it, let me know how it goes.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thanks for the comment. I'm sure you have a few files sitting around with all that metal fab you did.

  • @Douggg1000
    @Douggg1000 2 года назад

    That was a great how-to informational video.

  • @Willies_shop
    @Willies_shop 5 лет назад

    Thanks, I just saved two files. File cards or wire brushes just would not work, but 5 minutes with the copper and they were good to go.

  • @johnpossum556
    @johnpossum556 7 лет назад

    Great video because often these aluminum-filled abused steel files can be had for next to nothing at garage sales. BTW FYI Nicholson does make files for aluminum. Most are marked "Type A" on the tang. If you know how I'd love to see a video on how to chemically sharpen files. Heard some rumorish type stuff on the web but never bothered to try to see what really works. To me a good file is one with one of my lathe made handles on it. I use pallets because mostly they're good hardwood.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  7 лет назад

      I've seen the snake oil acid dip for files to sharpen them. I figure it's the placebo effect and they're actually just cleaning them.

  • @christined3953
    @christined3953 8 лет назад

    Thanks for the reminder ! I learned that back in 78

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    Thank you. I was just watching you do the brakes on the PT cruiser.

  • @PapaGleb
    @PapaGleb 10 лет назад

    Sweet tip mate. thanks much. I just had my wife take out the files i tossed yesterday so timing could not be any more perfect, lol

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  10 лет назад

      Papa Gleb Awesome, I'm glad you found the video.

  • @goodluckhappydragon
    @goodluckhappydragon 9 лет назад

    great tip, appreciate your time!! I just bought a new set of flat files, this will help out.

  • @SuperVidman101
    @SuperVidman101 Год назад

    I know this is super late, but thanks for this. Just got into a little project of restoring an old hand axe and the file was super dirty by the end.

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford  11 лет назад

    I haven't had good luck with a chalk but I do it in the video. A file card will only work on lightly clogged files.

  • @rexplorer.official
    @rexplorer.official 9 лет назад

    Thanks! I've been looking for a way to clean fine teethed files. Appreciate the video.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  9 лет назад

      Rexarthur Ramos Yeah, you're very welcome.

  • @net51cc
    @net51cc 10 лет назад

    Great! I've been asking around for years and here's the solution!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  10 лет назад

      Thanks.. I'm glad you like it, hopefully it comes in handy.

  • @old64goat
    @old64goat 11 лет назад

    Good info., I use a fine wire brush, your idea sounds better
    Bill

  • @SC-rb2jr
    @SC-rb2jr 4 года назад

    Great information. Thank you. I’m off to flatten some copper pipe.

  • @incognitotorpedo42
    @incognitotorpedo42 4 года назад

    If you put a lubricant on the file, the aluminum won't stick in the first place. You can use paste wax, paraffin, grease, kerosene, paint thinner, wd-40.... The heavier things like waxes will last longer. The the aluminum swarf brushes away easily. Don't use a steel brush; use a brass brush. In addition to copper, you can also use brass or wood for unclogging. Wood actually works pretty well, and it's easy to find.

  • @jhoneh9691
    @jhoneh9691 9 лет назад

    This is a really great tip! Does this also work for double cut files?

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  9 лет назад

      Jon Ehe I've never tried a double cut file.

  • @Thebowzer221
    @Thebowzer221 11 лет назад

    never 2 old 2 learn something new. Thanks 4 this tip. Bowzer,

  • @mechantics
    @mechantics Год назад

    Over the years, I've come across a few 1960s-70s electric organs on the trash heap and pulled 'em apart just because..... Well, hot damn! The hundreds of copper key contacts have justified the "blind salvage" yet again!