My son, a college golfer, is playing the Ventus blue. He got fitted by a top fitter and ended up in a S flex tipped 3/4 inch even though his swing speed is close to 120. He loves this shaft too. He likes the smooth feel and control he gets from it.
What with Ian & Mikey being videoed in the dark - did Club Champion forget to pay the electricity bill? Yes I miss the chemistry of Matt & Ian, but TXG is still the best, most independent source of properly tested information on golf clubs & shafts
Regarding testing, i’m interested in knowing the differences across the HZRDUS line. There are many different products there, so seeing something on that would be valuable. Thanks.
Shafts are often overlooked when people go shopping for golf equipment, so I’m glad we (hopefully) will get more comparisons for more shaft product lines down the road. That said, I love that Ventus Blue and Ventus TR is more on “feel”. It just means more options for the average golfer. You said it best, Ian: Ventus Black is a very niche market, and so is the Ventus Blue. I feel like this is for those who are stuck in-between. Thanks!
Ventus Blue has been automatic for me across the whole top part of my bag. I’ve always had different shafts in my long clubs but now Hybrid/Fw/Driver all Ventus Blue.
From a pure entertainment perspective. I enjoyed this video the most since Matt left. I’d love to see more RB on the channel. The videos do seem really dry to me, very quiet and not as much fun any more.
Yeah I liked Matt’s presence a lot. Him an Ian had good chemistry, and Ian knew Matt’s golf game, so the technical talk flowed well. Gonna be hard to replace him IMO.
@@Chyeahokay... Mike has no charisma. It's just the ugly truth. People have different social styles and strengths. The camera is not one of his. He's too monotonous, and boring. Not a knock on his knowledge, or being a good fitter... He might get better, but he will never get like Matty boy, or someone who has a dynamic personality. It's not in his dna, and the flow and dialog suffers in contrast to Matt
Would love to learn more about "loft as a crutch" as someone who's constantly fitted into the lowest loft heads. Great review and really liked the addition of Ryan and what he brings to the process. I'm currently playing the Ventus Black 6S in my driver and Blue 80S in my hybrid. The idea of some black stability with more feel sounds really interesting.
I totally agree. I wonder if I’m in that category of player playing my current head at 7 degrees. I guess there’s no way of knowing without checking with a pro.
I have both a black and blue in 70s I have always played the lowest lofted head. But a fitter outside of my stander fitter (actually a TM fitter on a tour truck) pointed out to me that I’m losing to much ball speed trying to hit up. He actually pointed out DJs swing and how his Attack Angle with the driver is steep, which is why he plays a higher lofted driver over the typical bombers 4-8° heads. I swung a few shots with an 10.5° at 11° and my entire world was rocked. Because of my speed, nobody has ever put a higher lofted driver in my hands. It’s worth exploring, my smash went up, my spin went down. I don’t have to try and force my swing up on contact. I just deliver the head. I don’t know if that’s what he’s trying to get at, but I can say as a guy who swings 123 on average a higher lofted driver has actually improved a lot of my game.
Of course we miss Matty but I appreciate RB because his swing profile and numbers are almost identical to mine. I also appreciate what Ian said about adding loft instead of using a low-lofted head as a crutch. I'll try that.
Great video. Very informative. In my opinion, this particular video had a great deal of 'relatable' content for me personally. In addition to your unpacking of the three different Ventus shaft models, the side-topic of using low launch 'as a crutch' was something that was valuable to hear. Ryan, well done. Steeping into the spotlight in the 'here and now' takes some courage. Ian and Mikey, well done. I for one, continue to appreciate the information that TXG is sharing. Looking forward to more quality content as we go forward in 2022.
Excellent video. Always welcome listening Ian work through the various variables that impact golf shots - especially when it is the same theories but with different golfers (e.g. with Ryan this time). Feel like we are getting a PhD in golf club fitting concepts. Keep up the great work and look forward to more.
While it’s lovely to see Matty’s crushing drives on the regular, it’s also nice to see someone with a more mere-mortal swing speed demoing the new technology!
Just got fitted for new driver & shaft @ the weekend. I was hitting taylormade m3. Stiff shaft standard. Ended up walking away with cobra LTDx LS shaft black ventus fujikura 6x. The difference in a proper fitting is unreal. Expensive, but I'm looking forward to get it on the course once it's made
I’d like to hear Ian’s comments on the value of fitting these premium shafts to the average golfer versus the stick shafts supplied by vendors. Is there value in dollars spent and or performance between the two?
They did a stock Ventus vs Velocore video ages ago and touched on something like this question I recall. As an 80-90 golfer that’s gone from stock shaft to premium ventus it’s 100% been worth it for me and changed my long game completely
There is many videos in RUclips about that, the difference is very minimal in most cases since many club manufacturer already offer a shaft setup that's pretty good fit with the head. For example with Ping and Taylormade, you can get get fit so well you don't really need a $400 shaft on top. But many buy these shafts because they want to, they look and feel cool.
@@NovaScene in my experience, none of the taylormade stock offerings worked for me but im more of a hitter with a very aggressive transition. . Ventus black brought my spin into a better window and helped out my super high launch. I did not purchase yet because I am going to look around and see what I can do about the insane cost of the stealth...might go to a PXG fitting as I can get their nicest driver with a $300 shaft for a stock Stealth price. The RDX red I really did like though and would certainly look to use that as a fairway wood shaft. It just launched higher and a bit more spinny.
Just got fitted yesterday.. hit the ventus tr blue.. added 40 yards to my drive and cut my spin rate in half. Expensive.. but one of the best shafts on the market
its like watching my own swing. numbers are almost identical and i could never understand why i hit my irons quite far yet cant fly my driver past 270. now im seeing its my launch
Let's have some faith. Of course the early TXG vlogs were dry. It takes time for people to gel and gain confidence in front of the camera. I also loved Matt but even he took some time to relax in front of the camera. Check out some of the original content. All the best to TXG and to Matt in his new ventures.
Yes! Let’s get more from Ryan - i think his swing is very representative of many average golfers pushing for more speed. Would be great to see him hitting the new lineup of driver heads in a head2head scenario. Also would love to see shaft vs shaft comparisons of a couple of companies (e.g. graphite design vs Ventus vs Mitsubishi - all the versions that would suit his swing, to see what seems best). Love the content as always!!
PADERSON VELOCITY!!! Please test this shaft. You teased it late in December but never did a video on it! Anyways, you all can do no wrong in my eyes. Thanks for all the quality reviews. I’m your biggest fan.
Stop comparing these guys to Matt. He’s gone get over it. Just enjoy the insight and knowledge they all have. I’ve followed Ryan for a while he knows his stuff. Great vid as always 👍🏼
Talking costs of the Ventus line, I've heard the UST Proforce V2 can work as a poor man's Ventus. I had a 60X in a Srixon 565 and I wasn't much for the feel but it was an accurate rocket launcher for sure. Had it playing at 44". May try a tipped one at 45" for fun. Also, good work by Barath. Enjoyed his MyGolfSpy articles and RUclips channel (when it was a thing).
Yes my nigga proforce v2 is best shaft for the money, try the white tspx v2 it’s their tour model, also recommend the gen 4 hzrds black, On a different note, Autoflex is also a great shaft only I destroyed mine trying to pull it. The ventus is over rated in my opinion, i am very weak however and even though I get good numbers w the ventus, it feels terrible
Being super selfish here but would like to see a lot more RB on the channel. Our swings are fairly similar, so I’m pretty keen to see how he responds to different equipment.
I would like to see a comparison of the Graphite Design line. Doing something along the lines of the OG Tour AD DI to the Tour AD XC to the Tour AD UB.
Totally agree with Ian on not using loft as a crutch. My swing speed is only 95-98, but I hit the ball high, so I end up using 9º and even turning down to 8º sometimes. But when I hit 10.5º or 11º I have to make the proper setup and body movements to keep the flight down and I end up making a better move through the ball. Then when I do that with the 9º the flight is where it "should" be for my speed, that is to say, too low. So I'm getting away with some inefficient movements with the lower loft, and the 10.5º shows what needs to be worked on!
The low loft as a crutch deserves a video of its own. I'm considering buying a new driver with lower loft to bring launch and spin down, but I would like to learn about other options and why low loft might not be the way to go.
Very informative...TY. Indeed, at $350 (US) the Ventus shaft do have a tendency to push many golfers toward a different type of Fujikura shafts or its competitors. In addition, at times, shafts of this caliber are hard to come by for "testing."
I think kai li white 60tx vs Ventus TR in the 60x would be a great comparison. Both shafts trying to accomplish the same thing. Kai li taper butt to achieve blue profile feel while keeping the tip ultra stiff for white profile numbers.
When I first got truly fitted, I loved the Aldila NV, but then the UST pro force stiff had the same CPM numbers, but felt smoother to me at a D4 SW. Used that for a long time until my fitting to a G30 head with a Tour Stiff. A bit high launching, so turned down the loft on a 10.5 head.
Missing have The consistence of knowing Matts swing and being able to make a judgment off it. Also the distance 😞. Should the new guy be using Ventus Red given the swing speed.
Great to see clubs compared with/against its competitors. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. The new Callaway Rogue and PXG got my interest.
Never played ventus before a few months ago, got the red TR. I thought the hype was just that. But as a relatively poor golfer, especially of the tee, Ive got to say that driver is now one of my most reliable clubs. The distance and left right dispersion is a bit mad.
Thanks for the video! Would love to hear more about tipping on this and the black/blue shafts as well as to see this shaft compared on a swing that has more neutral swing dynamics + high speed (we miss Matt!).
I know you guys stay busy but any chance you could do a review or help with this question on which is better, a 13.5/15 degree three wood. I play a 9 degree driver. Thank you guys for the help and videos!
I play a black 6tx. Dislike the feel. Love the stability. I ordered a 6X tr. tipped 1/2”. What’s your thoughts? (I do like blue feel for the load helping me feel timing)
Why is the Ventus Blue Velocore not included in this comparison? I feel like this video missed the real purpose by not including all 3 Ventus Blue models.
Enjoyed the video. As always a few new nuggets of information which leaves me wanting more! Question...watched the video again from a year ago comparing stock Ventus in TM versus after market Ventus, which came to the conclusion that you were comparing apples to oranges. I have the Ventus Blue 5-S stock shaft in my Sim2 Max but would like to step it up with an aftermarket shaft. Is the new Ventus TR still a completely different beast from the stock Ventus in TM? If so, is there a shaft you've found that compares to the stock Ventus Plus 5-S, or is it time to see a fitter? LOL
This guy is obviously a great player. He did say with the black he had to work harder, my thinking is with the golf swing, harder can introduce tension and tension is not good. Please let me know your view on this. Love your vlogs. Regards Ray.
To add to my earlier post, I play Wilsom Staff tour model (aka Gary Woodland). 34° 7 iron 135 carry. I consider myself myself a competent single figure handicapper. I can't launch strong lofted clubs. I use 3 hybrids. 5, 4, and 3. My handicap has been a solid single figure for 50 years. Can we have testers who have a 70 to 75 mph swingspeed in a 7 iron. I'm sure I'm not an exception. I'm better then average. And as a man of leisure has money to spend. Who are these forums aimed at?
Can you do a comparison video between the Ventus Blue/Black and Kai'li? Two sure fire top-selling shafts that seem to be rivaling themselves this year. Thanks!
Weird how some people's perceptions of shafts differ. I've always been 112+ and found the ventus line , both blue and black to be exceptionally stiff. Always got much more out of the Pro 2.0 TS and Motore lines.
Just got fitted myself into a Motore. I’m at about 109 mph and the Motore X F1 was giving me a more preferred trajectory and spin rate to the Ventus Black (too low) or Blue (too high). I’m interested to try the Ventus Blue TR though since it looks to be between the current blue and black.
Very good review! But what kind of shaft is for me as a golfer with around 140 mph ballspeed with the driver? Seeking a high launch low spin ball trajectory.
Ventus blue is great outside of when you get over 120+ on course it’s quite easy to over power and it’s gets a bad case of the lefts .. the TR seems to be stiffer in the butt which sounds like the go
Another great vid!! I can agree as I'm using black ventus on my driver but for wood/hybrid I was fitted with blue. I too feel i need to swing harder with driver so i can related here.
The Ventus Blue in stock TM drivers is not a Velocore model, how much would this effect performance _ is it softer, any thoughts guys? Any further ideas on Hzrdus Smoke Blue v Ventus Blue - much difference, anybody got a quick answer on that? :)
Enjoyed the first look at the new TR! I've always wanted to test Ventus shafts, but I'm not fortunate enough to have a fitting center in my state with a selection of aftermarket shafts available to test. Options for new clubs are stock, stock upgrade (if in stock), or "buy before you try." I'm also very curious about Graphite Design shafts, for that matter... I've watched all your shaft review videos, but I've never seen a head to head comparison between the Ventus offerings and GD. Would this be a comparison video TXG would be willing to try? Cheers Boys 🍻
just venturing into a ventus for first time. Kinda saw a new element to shafts when I tried a Diamana TB. Stability was thru the roof for me with the 70tx. Got me thinking the ventus stability story might be worth checking out. Was in a Diamana DF/Fuji Pro 2.0 beforehand (a favorite on the channel, or used to be anyway).
Could you please make the set a bit brighter? This lighting makes it feel like the very early TXG videos again almost lacking some level of the production quality. Overall, very interesting topic and looking forward to all new content that TXG put out.
It was filmed at night since we had to cancel Monday’s shoot due to a snow storm. The production quality will look (mind the pun) night and day different next week.
I love Ventus, and I'm willing to pay for premium shafts, but it does seem like the $300-$400 shafts are the only ones that get featured on most golf RUclips channels.
You guys need to do some collab’s with other YT content creator to do some course vlogs. Need to see you guys on course more, rather just in a sim environment. In the Uk at the moment, a 260 yard drive is only 260 carry!
Always love Matty boy, and going to miss him…however, great job RB! For me, his swing speed is more mortal, and close to mine, so enjoy seeing that. Would LOVE to see something done on the black 5x. Since so many pros are dropping a weight class with this shaft, how does that work for us normal “60 gram” guys? Can we. Drop to a 50 g shaft because of the stability of black but pick up some speed? How about in TR? Great video gang!
My son, a college golfer, is playing the Ventus blue. He got fitted by a top fitter and ended up in a S flex tipped 3/4 inch even though his swing speed is close to 120. He loves this shaft too. He likes the smooth feel and control he gets from it.
What with Ian & Mikey being videoed in the dark - did Club Champion forget to pay the electricity bill?
Yes I miss the chemistry of Matt & Ian, but TXG is still the best, most independent source of properly tested information on golf clubs & shafts
I think you guys are the only ones doing shaft reviews. Certainly the only ones of any quality. Love it.
Regarding testing, i’m interested in knowing the differences across the HZRDUS line. There are many different products there, so seeing something on that would be valuable. Thanks.
Shafts are often overlooked when people go shopping for golf equipment, so I’m glad we (hopefully) will get more comparisons for more shaft product lines down the road. That said, I love that Ventus Blue and Ventus TR is more on “feel”. It just means more options for the average golfer. You said it best, Ian: Ventus Black is a very niche market, and so is the Ventus Blue. I feel like this is for those who are stuck in-between.
Thanks!
Ventus Blue has been automatic for me across the whole top part of my bag. I’ve always had different shafts in my long clubs but now Hybrid/Fw/Driver all Ventus Blue.
Same. First ever premium shaft and felt crazy for spending that much blind off of TXG reviews. Now it’s in every long club.
Same here
Does anyone else miss the old intro music?
From a pure entertainment perspective. I enjoyed this video the most since Matt left. I’d love to see more RB on the channel. The videos do seem really dry to me, very quiet and not as much fun any more.
Wait Matt left why
When
Yeah I liked Matt’s presence a lot. Him an Ian had good chemistry, and Ian knew Matt’s golf game, so the technical talk flowed well. Gonna be hard to replace him IMO.
Also. The guy next to Ian doesn’t look comfortable , and needs to speak more, and openly
@@Chyeahokay... Mike has no charisma. It's just the ugly truth. People have different social styles and strengths. The camera is not one of his. He's too monotonous, and boring. Not a knock on his knowledge, or being a good fitter... He might get better, but he will never get like Matty boy, or someone who has a dynamic personality. It's not in his dna, and the flow and dialog suffers in contrast to Matt
Would love to learn more about "loft as a crutch" as someone who's constantly fitted into the lowest loft heads. Great review and really liked the addition of Ryan and what he brings to the process. I'm currently playing the Ventus Black 6S in my driver and Blue 80S in my hybrid. The idea of some black stability with more feel sounds really interesting.
I totally agree. I wonder if I’m in that category of player playing my current head at 7 degrees. I guess there’s no way of knowing without checking with a pro.
It hurt my feelings when Ian said that lol. You're not alone.
Haha same…I felt attacked! Oh well, if a 14 hcp can’t get a little crutch now and then on the course what can he do? I’ll take it.
I have both a black and blue in 70s I have always played the lowest lofted head. But a fitter outside of my stander fitter (actually a TM fitter on a tour truck) pointed out to me that I’m losing to much ball speed trying to hit up. He actually pointed out DJs swing and how his Attack Angle with the driver is steep, which is why he plays a higher lofted driver over the typical bombers 4-8° heads. I swung a few shots with an 10.5° at 11° and my entire world was rocked. Because of my speed, nobody has ever put a higher lofted driver in my hands. It’s worth exploring, my smash went up, my spin went down. I don’t have to try and force my swing up on contact. I just deliver the head. I don’t know if that’s what he’s trying to get at, but I can say as a guy who swings 123 on average a higher lofted driver has actually improved a lot of my game.
@@phynamite9 do you use the black or blue?
Of course we miss Matty but I appreciate RB because his swing profile and numbers are almost identical to mine. I also appreciate what Ian said about adding loft instead of using a low-lofted head as a crutch. I'll try that.
We need to see a Ventus Red tipped “purple” vs the Ventus TR next.
Great video. Very informative. In my opinion, this particular video had a great deal of 'relatable' content for me personally. In addition to your unpacking of the three different Ventus shaft models, the side-topic of using low launch 'as a crutch' was something that was valuable to hear.
Ryan, well done. Steeping into the spotlight in the 'here and now' takes some courage. Ian and Mikey, well done. I for one, continue to appreciate the information that TXG is sharing. Looking forward to more quality content as we go forward in 2022.
I’ve preordered this. I’m so excited that you uploaded this. About to watch
Look at RB as a tester, LOVE THIS. RB is the man.
Love Ian's analysis of the swing.
Excellent video. Always welcome listening Ian work through the various variables that impact golf shots - especially when it is the same theories but with different golfers (e.g. with Ryan this time). Feel like we are getting a PhD in golf club fitting concepts. Keep up the great work and look forward to more.
Good to see RB on
Miss Matty but this is nice and refreshing also. Very close to my speed also which really helps. 👍
While it’s lovely to see Matty’s crushing drives on the regular, it’s also nice to see someone with a more mere-mortal swing speed demoing the new technology!
Just got fitted for new driver & shaft @ the weekend. I was hitting taylormade m3. Stiff shaft standard. Ended up walking away with cobra LTDx LS shaft black ventus fujikura 6x. The difference in a proper fitting is unreal. Expensive, but I'm looking forward to get it on the course once it's made
Well done RB, as a normal/good/improving golfer this can't of been easy. I liked that it was mortal representative.
Enjoyable video, very interesting. Also great to watch RB smacking drivers, keen to see some new driver tests for him this next season
I’d like to hear Ian’s comments on the value of fitting these premium shafts to the average golfer versus the stick shafts supplied by vendors. Is there value in dollars spent and or performance between the two?
They did a stock Ventus vs Velocore video ages ago and touched on something like this question I recall. As an 80-90 golfer that’s gone from stock shaft to premium ventus it’s 100% been worth it for me and changed my long game completely
There is many videos in RUclips about that, the difference is very minimal in most cases since many club manufacturer already offer a shaft setup that's pretty good fit with the head. For example with Ping and Taylormade, you can get get fit so well you don't really need a $400 shaft on top. But many buy these shafts because they want to, they look and feel cool.
@@NovaScene in my experience, none of the taylormade stock offerings worked for me but im more of a hitter with a very aggressive transition. . Ventus black brought my spin into a better window and helped out my super high launch. I did not purchase yet because I am going to look around and see what I can do about the insane cost of the stealth...might go to a PXG fitting as I can get their nicest driver with a $300 shaft for a stock Stealth price.
The RDX red I really did like though and would certainly look to use that as a fairway wood shaft. It just launched higher and a bit more spinny.
Have been looking forward to this one, also so glad you started doing 4k nice bump to the quality of the content!!!
Just got fitted yesterday.. hit the ventus tr blue.. added 40 yards to my drive and cut my spin rate in half. Expensive.. but one of the best shafts on the market
Nice seeing RB in there. More of him!!
Its so so so hard to find a GOOD review of the STEELFIBER iron shafts on RUclips!!! That would be a great content Ian!
its like watching my own swing. numbers are almost identical and i could never understand why i hit my irons quite far yet cant fly my driver past 270. now im seeing its my launch
I like to see the Ventus vs the Tensi
Let's have some faith. Of course the early TXG vlogs were dry. It takes time for people to gel and gain confidence in front of the camera. I also loved Matt but even he took some time to relax in front of the camera. Check out some of the original content. All the best to TXG and to Matt in his new ventures.
Yes! Let’s get more from Ryan - i think his swing is very representative of many average golfers pushing for more speed. Would be great to see him hitting the new lineup of driver heads in a head2head scenario.
Also would love to see shaft vs shaft comparisons of a couple of companies (e.g. graphite design vs Ventus vs Mitsubishi - all the versions that would suit his swing, to see what seems best).
Love the content as always!!
You guys are too harsh, this is a good channel. Relax and enjoy the info.
PADERSON VELOCITY!!! Please test this shaft. You teased it late in December but never did a video on it! Anyways, you all can do no wrong in my eyes. Thanks for all the quality reviews. I’m your biggest fan.
😂, we love you right back Jacob and for you I’ll make sure that video happens within the next couple of weeks!!! Ian
Is that you Stan.....
Stop comparing these guys to Matt. He’s gone get over it. Just enjoy the insight and knowledge they all have. I’ve followed Ryan for a while he knows his stuff. Great vid as always 👍🏼
I have Ventus Blue on all of my woods thanks to TXG. They make my SIM(1) great.
Talking costs of the Ventus line, I've heard the UST Proforce V2 can work as a poor man's Ventus. I had a 60X in a Srixon 565 and I wasn't much for the feel but it was an accurate rocket launcher for sure. Had it playing at 44". May try a tipped one at 45" for fun. Also, good work by Barath. Enjoyed his MyGolfSpy articles and RUclips channel (when it was a thing).
Yes my nigga proforce v2 is best shaft for the money, try the white tspx v2 it’s their tour model, also recommend the gen 4 hzrds black, On a different note, Autoflex is also a great shaft only I destroyed mine trying to pull it. The ventus is over rated in my opinion, i am very weak however and even though I get good numbers w the ventus, it feels terrible
I've been waiting for this....Let's Go
Hey Ian last year you talked about testing Patterson’s budget Accuflex type shaft. Any progress on securing one for a test?
The old purple/ yellow and black/ yellow UST had the hype too back in the day.
a comparison of Tensei 1k White, Accra TZ5 and Ventus TR would be great!
Being super selfish here but would like to see a lot more RB on the channel. Our swings are fairly similar, so I’m pretty keen to see how he responds to different equipment.
What love yo see comparisons between. The Ventus shafts and comparable graphite design shafts
I would like to see a comparison of the Graphite Design line. Doing something along the lines of the OG Tour AD DI to the Tour AD XC to the Tour AD UB.
I'm seeing some crazy good smash numbers with the new TR.
Love this gents! Keep up the great work. How about a tipped Red “purple” vs the Blue TR?
Highlight that please^^^
Totally agree with Ian on not using loft as a crutch. My swing speed is only 95-98, but I hit the ball high, so I end up using 9º and even turning down to 8º sometimes. But when I hit 10.5º or 11º I have to make the proper setup and body movements to keep the flight down and I end up making a better move through the ball. Then when I do that with the 9º the flight is where it "should" be for my speed, that is to say, too low. So I'm getting away with some inefficient movements with the lower loft, and the 10.5º shows what needs to be worked on!
I just purchased the Ventus Blue TR in a 5 R. Should get it for next weekend. I liked how you fitted to it. Can't wait to see you use it outside.
Super excited to get fitted at TXG at the end of February. Keep up the great content!
Also, would love to see the Fuji MC pro iron shafts reviewed
There is a Matt imposter on here hitting golf balls!! 😮
Used to love this channel. Just not the same without Matty. Hope the videos start to liven up soon
Love to see Diamana PD testing.
Great review guys, 👍👍 to RB!!
He hit the black the best by far.
Love the candle lit vibe from the boys
The low loft as a crutch deserves a video of its own. I'm considering buying a new driver with lower loft to bring launch and spin down, but I would like to learn about other options and why low loft might not be the way to go.
This was great. I love weight of really stiff shafts, but like the more smooth feel.
Very informative...TY. Indeed, at $350 (US) the Ventus shaft do have a tendency to push many golfers toward a different type of Fujikura shafts or its competitors. In addition, at times, shafts of this caliber are hard to come by for "testing."
I think kai li white 60tx vs Ventus TR in the 60x would be a great comparison. Both shafts trying to accomplish the same thing. Kai li taper butt to achieve blue profile feel while keeping the tip ultra stiff for white profile numbers.
When I first got truly fitted, I loved the Aldila NV, but then the UST pro force stiff had the same CPM numbers, but felt smoother to me at a D4 SW. Used that for a long time until my fitting to a G30 head with a Tour Stiff. A bit high launching, so turned down the loft on a 10.5 head.
Can you do a video comparing the true temper x100 tour issue, X7, project x 7.0, project x 7.0 LS, and project x rifle 7.0 shaft?
Missing have The consistence of knowing Matts swing and being able to make a judgment off it. Also the distance 😞. Should the new guy be using Ventus Red given the swing speed.
Man that TR is very intriguing!
Video quality looks great!
Great to see clubs compared with/against its competitors. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. The new Callaway Rogue and PXG got my interest.
Never played ventus before a few months ago, got the red TR. I thought the hype was just that. But as a relatively poor golfer, especially of the tee, Ive got to say that driver is now one of my most reliable clubs. The distance and left right dispersion is a bit mad.
Thanks for the video! Would love to hear more about tipping on this and the black/blue shafts as well as to see this shaft compared on a swing that has more neutral swing dynamics + high speed (we miss Matt!).
Love it boys! Class as always!
I know you guys stay busy but any chance you could do a review or help with this question on which is better, a 13.5/15 degree three wood. I play a 9 degree driver. Thank you guys for the help and videos!
With RB on, hoping we get to see a bit more old/classic vs new gear comparisons!
How do you think the tensi 1K compares to the Ventus blue ?
I second this. Love to see a 1k vs TR Blue vs maybe a stock offering of some sort
Just got my TR and I don’t like it one bit. Thuddy. Transition sucks. Everything about this shaft so far is a no go.
I play a black 6tx. Dislike the feel. Love the stability. I ordered a 6X tr. tipped 1/2”. What’s your thoughts? (I do like blue feel for the load helping me feel timing)
He needs to wear an Arby's hat when reviewing a club. Good swing, good addition to the channel.
Please test Tour AD XC. Would love to see that shaft head to head with Ventus!
Smooth and stable... Sign me up!
Why is the Ventus Blue Velocore not included in this comparison? I feel like this video missed the real purpose by not including all 3 Ventus Blue models.
Enjoyed the video. As always a few new nuggets of information which leaves me wanting more! Question...watched the video again from a year ago comparing stock Ventus in TM versus after market Ventus, which came to the conclusion that you were comparing apples to oranges. I have the Ventus Blue 5-S stock shaft in my Sim2 Max but would like to step it up with an aftermarket shaft. Is the new Ventus TR still a completely different beast from the stock Ventus in TM? If so, is there a shaft you've found that compares to the stock Ventus Plus 5-S, or is it time to see a fitter? LOL
This guy is obviously a great player. He did say with the black he had to work harder, my thinking is with the golf swing, harder can introduce tension and tension is not good. Please let me know your view on this. Love your vlogs. Regards Ray.
To add to my earlier post, I play Wilsom Staff tour model (aka Gary Woodland). 34° 7 iron 135 carry. I consider myself myself a competent single figure handicapper. I can't launch strong lofted clubs. I use 3 hybrids. 5, 4, and 3. My handicap has been a solid single figure for 50 years. Can we have testers who have a 70 to 75 mph swingspeed in a 7 iron. I'm sure I'm not an exception. I'm better then average. And as a man of leisure has money to spend. Who are these forums aimed at?
Can you do a comparison video between the Ventus Blue/Black and Kai'li? Two sure fire top-selling shafts that seem to be rivaling themselves this year. Thanks!
Please test the LA golf (Blue,White,Red) Driver/Fairways shafts in new Stealth
Weird how some people's perceptions of shafts differ. I've always been 112+ and found the ventus line , both blue and black to be exceptionally stiff. Always got much more out of the Pro 2.0 TS and Motore lines.
Just got fitted myself into a Motore. I’m at about 109 mph and the Motore X F1 was giving me a more preferred trajectory and spin rate to the Ventus Black (too low) or Blue (too high). I’m interested to try the Ventus Blue TR though since it looks to be between the current blue and black.
Ian, how do you decide how much to tip a shaft? I swing around 105, and find myself a bit in between the S and X in the Ventus Blue.
The manufacturer of ventus doesn’t recommend tipping the these shafts..so I wouldn’t worry about it with the ventus line..imo
Whats a more affordable option for the Ventus TR with similar characteristics Thanks Good stuff
Very good review! But what kind of shaft is for me as a golfer with around 140 mph ballspeed with the driver? Seeking a high launch low spin ball trajectory.
I like Arby’s interaction and he seems to be everybody’s kind of golfer. Still miss Matty though. 😊🙃
6.5 HZRDUS RDX black with the new hexcel in the stealth!!
Would like to see comparison testing involving Graphite Design models
Ventus blue is great outside of when you get over 120+ on course it’s quite easy to over power and it’s gets a bad case of the lefts .. the TR seems to be stiffer in the butt which sounds like the go
Another great vid!! I can agree as I'm using black ventus on my driver but for wood/hybrid I was fitted with blue. I too feel i need to swing harder with driver so i can related here.
I’m a tour ad guy. But I really want to try these.
I would like to see more shaft testing with fairway woods.
The Ventus Blue in stock TM drivers is not a Velocore model, how much would this effect performance _ is it softer, any thoughts guys? Any further ideas on Hzrdus Smoke Blue v Ventus Blue - much difference, anybody got a quick answer on that? :)
“The black and the blue had a baby, in the butt section”, this is the content we need 😂 RB HAHAH
Enjoyed the first look at the new TR! I've always wanted to test Ventus shafts, but I'm not fortunate enough to have a fitting center in my state with a selection of aftermarket shafts available to test. Options for new clubs are stock, stock upgrade (if in stock), or "buy before you try." I'm also very curious about Graphite Design shafts, for that matter... I've watched all your shaft review videos, but I've never seen a head to head comparison between the Ventus offerings and GD. Would this be a comparison video TXG would be willing to try? Cheers Boys 🍻
just venturing into a ventus for first time. Kinda saw a new element to shafts when I tried a Diamana TB. Stability was thru the roof for me with the 70tx. Got me thinking the ventus stability story might be worth checking out. Was in a Diamana DF/Fuji Pro 2.0 beforehand (a favorite on the channel, or used to be anyway).
Could you please make the set a bit brighter? This lighting makes it feel like the very early TXG videos again almost lacking some level of the production quality. Overall, very interesting topic and looking forward to all new content that TXG put out.
It was filmed at night since we had to cancel Monday’s shoot due to a snow storm. The production quality will look (mind the pun) night and day different next week.
Video idea: shaft ideas for people who want to approximate the performance of Ventus but at a more realistic price point.
I love Ventus, and I'm willing to pay for premium shafts, but it does seem like the $300-$400 shafts are the only ones that get featured on most golf RUclips channels.
UST Mamiya V2 for $60. Start with the 6F5 if you play an X. It's ultra stable and all the shaft you need.
You guys need to do some collab’s with other YT content creator to do some course vlogs. Need to see you guys on course more, rather just in a sim environment. In the Uk at the moment, a 260 yard drive is only 260 carry!
Always love Matty boy, and going to miss him…however, great job RB! For me, his swing speed is more mortal, and close to mine, so enjoy seeing that. Would LOVE to see something done on the black 5x. Since so many pros are dropping a weight class with this shaft, how does that work for us normal “60 gram” guys? Can we. Drop to a 50 g shaft because of the stability of black but pick up some speed? How about in TR? Great video gang!