Taemin would be so happy to hear your comment about how you can tell a move is very “taemin”. He’s been working very hard to create his identity, that’s been his focus all along.
Yeah and that’s what makes him the greatest dancer in kpop because he has honed his craft so much that you can identify a Taemin move, many dancers are rarely able to achieve this no matter how good they are, which is something MJ was also able to do. Taemin should be extremely proud of himself.
@@vilisco6025 yh the fact that mj was inspired by so many ppl but we recognise those moves as "mj moves" says a lot. tbh there are MANY great dancers, i don't really classify taemin as such anymore bc he's so much more. all his development & work behind the scenes solidifies him as a great artist.
to me taemin and boa will always be the best dancers in kpop. it's not only about their moves, they have something else... btw, the "killing me softly" parts were sung by boa.
I think they are well respected as actual dancers, not just idol dancers as well. Personally I agree with you, clearly no one comes close to Taemin dance wise with males and I think Boa also set that bar for the females. Both powerhouses in both vocals and dance!
I love how ur profile pic is jennie, but u know who to choose when it comes to kpop best dancers, which boa and taemin. I mean, it just very rare to see 4th gen kpop fans to mention boa hahahaha
Yep, exactly. I think Hyoyeon is the only one to come close to BoA's level and I see Ten only getting better. Taemin and BoA are both lauded by idol dancers and professionals alike :')
@@FAY-di7rg Rian is one. And there's at least one more female choreographer, who also dances in Criminal. I forgot her name but she's also one of Chungha's choreographer.
his dance is verrryyy delicate! his endurance and level of control shines through the yt screen... can't imagine watching him dance *IN PERSON*. and i agreee this choreo has its own choreo language... "its very Taemin"
So his live stage... it's embarrassing how many times the words "WOAOAOAOA BE CAREFUL you're spinning too close/you'll break your neck at that speed!" and such came screaming to my mind... "Cuz I have yet to see your actual performance which you haven't even gotten to yet!!!" It just gushes out of him!
I saw him live on KBS Berlin, and when they announced him all I could think was: you better not start with "Move" what did he start with ofcourse... YOU CAN'T JUST GO AHEAD LIKE THAT AND KILL ME FROM THE START! But I have to say, instead of killing me, his performance gave me life ❤️
Yeah, as for his live performances... I thought I would explode, lose my mind, jump so high that my head would bump into the ceiling, I honestly lost it completely watching him up close. He is like a drug, see him once and this is what you want to do for the rest of your live - watch Lee Taemin perform in front of your face...
@Harmon McCraw To be honest Taemin’s SuperM solo stages absolutely didn’t showcase his real potential - not because of him, but first I was never convinced about the choice of songs, granted Danger is absolutely iconic, but the second song should have been Move or Want (properly staged with both male and female dancers) and not Sayonara Hitori where he dances alone. And second what really bothered me the most was the constant use of stroboscopic lights, which really killed his performance. I couldn’t see a damn thing because of this damn light! As for my experience with his solo concerts I was really close (sitting 10 meters away from the stage, where I could literally see all his facial expressions perfectly and he was able to read my small banner). What can I say - his solo concerts are spectacles beyond imagination! The tension that builds up from the start, the whole production (costumes, lights, moving stages!!!) the way he performs with his amazing dancers is simply mind blowing... Second time I was a little further away, but still close enough to see him without having to look at those huge screens. Third time was a different concert (TMI), where my place was much further away and as much as I still loved the concert and was excited beyond imagination throughout, the experience have no comparison to being really close to him...
@Harmon McCraw Well I know everyone has their idea of where the best seat is. Myself I'm very particular about this. It depends on the event. When it's the symphony, I want the balcony (sound travels up). Anything involving a performance with many moving parts I always choose a seat at either corner of the stage just high enough to see all the way to the back of the stage but can still get a good look at their facial performance. BEING visible myself is of no relevance because the times when I'm performing on stage...whether in a theatre or stadium concert...my visibility reaches only as far as the edge of the stage (wherever the lighting facing down on it stops). It's like a black curtain in front of the audience (conveniently helps you to focus). So I had a clear view of everything. But the only problem was that the whole time they were right in front of me, I could hardly tare my eyes from the dang screen (I'm also a photographer) & all the REALLY amazing shots they were capturing!!! Pretty hopeless 😅
Actually he said in an interview that the ending of Criminal (the iconic T pose he does all the time) is the choreo continuation to the beginning of IDEA. In that interview, he gets asked about his habits and what he does when he performs like the position of his hand to the angle of his neck and face or how he stands. Listening to him explain it is super interesting haha
oh!! i saw that interview!!! it was really so interesting haha and the amount of detail taemin thinks about and incorporates into his art is just incredible! ruclips.net/video/7hNC8Owcliw/видео.html (this is the link to the interview ^^)
Some of Taemin's backup dancers are choreographers themselves, some are award winners in national and international championships. It just goes to show how talented Taemin is. Because his dancers can pop off and not worry about overshadowing the main artist. I remember reading somewhere about one dancer who has been dancing for 15 years, and saying that in a concert, the backup dancers usually fill the gap to make the performance 100%. But Taemin was the only one who says that he will give 100%, so they should give 100% too. That is why all his performances are phenomenal and incomparable.👑
I don't know if you've watched Taemin on MMTG, but he explained the details he put in his choreographies and the "iconic Taemin moves". I think it's very interesting because we don't usually get to hear the artist talk about his craft like this. This is the link if you want to watch it: ruclips.net/video/7hNC8Owcliw/видео.html
Yessss @Jeff Avenue, I think you will enjoy this video because you will see how much dedicated Taemin is with details. You like to pay attention to details so I think you’ll be interested to that.
Taemin never goes above 100% in the dance practice videos like he does in his MVs and live performances. Because it's practice and not a live stage. Even if it's the one they're filming to post online. In the dance practice videos he is at 100% while in the live stages and MVs he is at 200% most of the time lol
He's dancing very technically here, while on stage he puts in more emotions. But yeah, he's definitely not 100% here, I mean he's not even tired at the end.. In the MV though, he was giving it 100% and it looked so amazing! His inkigayo live stage was also amazing! That's my favourite one😍💞💎
I like him in dance practice more than in live stage, in dance practice he always give his 100 % aura control, while in live stage he need to focus on his singing
Oooooh Ian was involved? That's so good that they worked together again, also Taemin did mention how much he admires how Ian dances to the music and hits the accents.
The beginning of IDEA is the end of Criminal and the shadow dance in IDEA is a homage to SHINee’s Sherlock, which he’s stated is one of his favorite SHINee songs which he’s also mixed with his solo debut song Danger. Taemin puts so much thought and effort into what he does and makes it look effortless. Thank you for appreciating Taemin!!
When you talked about movements and said we can say "that's a Taemin move", that was so on point. I grew up wanting to dance like Michael and Janet Jackson because of their movements and performances and now I wish I could perform like Taemin. He brings such artistry and uniqueness to his performances.
YES. Taemin’s role model is MJ and he’s inspired by him. Even the way he sings I can see the influence, where he really puts energy and life into pop songs. But Taemin is also different. It’s not mimicking MJ. He develops his own style. For example his music and dance has more asian element in it. I’m not a pro so I don’t know how to describe it.I am so happy to finally find my ultimate bias after MJ.
Idea's Choreography: Kasper (who worked on the "Criminal" performance), Ian Eastwood (who choreographed Danger), world-famous choreographers Keone Madrid and Bailey Sok and ofc Taemin ✨
Oh, you need to watch his lives stages, he goes HARDER. He even performed the song with the outfit of his photo teasers, the one suit with a SKIRT and still he did amazing!!✨ Taemin always give his 100% on the stage and I love that from him ❤
@Harmon McCraw The camerawork from music shows is really bad most of the time. I would recommend you to watch "fancams" like this one: ruclips.net/video/MbxjuC8i7EQ/видео.html It's the performance of which I'm talking in my first comment ^^
@Harmon McCraw The inkigayo stage was the best! You can see the dance the best and he was going full out😘 Yeah, I couldn't stand the other music shows either..
I love the contrast between his chill/relaxed movements, with the aggressive/dramatic music. It somehow articulates more power like how powerful ppl are even more intimidating when they’re relaxed/unbothered. He always executes his concepts so well.
Idea choreography has the same vibe as Move but it contains a lot of accents (in a way)... it's like chill but a different kind of chill... like you said, laid back, effortless, but still emphasized🌟🌟
And the choregraphers for this song are kasper, ian eastwood, keone and bailey. Ian eastwood one of my fav choreo. He and taemin....have the same vibes ❤❤❤
I think the "in-between beat" concept has something to do with Ian Eastwood. I watched a "teaching" (?) or dance workshop he did and he emphasized that doing choreography doesn't only mean using the beats of a song. He said it's also very important to take note of the instrumentation, other sources of sound within the song itself...and most of those sounds/layers don't move according to the beat but fill up the spaces between. And Ian Eastwood co-choreographed IDEA.
5:55 : "Who thinks of these kind of moves?" actually, the guy second from the left at that timestamp is the choreographer, Kasper! to answer you question Jeff lol
I like to watch your reactions because you observe very carefully. Taemin is actually a very talented and hard-working artist. You can see how unique his style is and how much he likes to be on stage.
Your analysis as a performer is so insightful and I love how it truly highlights Taemin’s artistry as a performer himself. Thank you for this video and I hope you keep up the amazing work 🤗
'lazy dancing' (his members named it that way) is also a forté of Sujus main dancer Eunhyuk. bish looks so relaxed it's sick, SM really do have the greatest dancers. I can't get over it.
We are so overwhelmed of so many dance performances of IDEA, aside from this dance practice which we dont normally see his facial expression, there is a performance dance video via DINGO and Taemin was wearing white crop top and they danced on the building rooftop, it was awesome!!!! And I can't help but watching that first than the dance practice! You can also clearly see the patch which is covering his tattoo on his upper hip...the visual was kinda hyped!
Hey Jeff, so the choreo is a combination of Ian Eastwood (who did his Danger), Kasper, Keone Madrid, & Bailey Sok. I think that's why there's so much going on & how barely anything repeats. Edit: and you're definitely right about how he didn't seem to go as hard on the dance practice. Taemin rarely goes all out on dance practices. In fact, Criminal was an exception. If you watch the official fancams from the live, you can see him do the moves more energetically than the dance practice.
There are many great dancers in Kpop, but Taemin is the best among them without any question. He's already completed his own style which is elegant and delicate. now I'm so looking forward his next work.
I just found this channel and I have to say one of the most iconic moments of Taemin dancing like ever was for the SMTown live world tour 2017 SHinee were he dances press your number and there's a part were he goes from laying on the ground to standing up in like a second
I was thoroughly happy to hear your thoughts, thank you very much for your detailed analysis and all the interesting references to theatrical exercises, constructing the choreography, using backup dancers and also planning the whole choreography in a way it would fit a huge stage performance. I also feel that Taemin’s choreographies in general, perhaps this one in particular are very original and full of surprising ideas (pun intended 😂), which make them stand out so much in the most positive way from what we often see in today’s Kpop, which would be strong, very synchronized and robotic dancing. Taemin is a real visionary, he envisions his stages already while selecting songs for his albums and often a song is picked by him, cause he can visualize it being performed on his concerts and that really blows my mind that he thinks that way! I will finally subscribe to your channel, cause I feel that you are honest and professional in your opinions and I admire your knowledge and pleasant personality.
I feel like not a lot of dancers have moves that you call 'such a ... move', except Michael Jackson. And now also Taemin, he's so unique I don't know how to describe him
Omg you gotta see him teaching this to Haechan (pretending to be Mark, gushing/fanboying uncontrollably over Taemin...Taemin dissing his own “archaic” moves & putting Haechan on the spot to re interpret “Haechan style”) & some SM employee (aka “the Move guy”) who posted a Taemin cover that went viral (Taemin: “You know it could’ve been better right?” “Move” guy: “I’m just a regular guy I’m not Haechan!!! 😡”)... and to top it off Ten who overheard & snuck in uninvited to score a piece of the not yet released choreo. I drove myself crazy with the “rewind” button...SO funny!
I love that you talked about how his stages will be set with like the lights and smoke, because that's literally what he's been doing with his stages. It's so amazing how you can visualize performances like that! I love this reaction, the way you explain movements and intricacies from a performers point of view is really eye opening!! Can't wait to see your next one.
I'm not sure if you'll see this, however this is a link to like 4 performances by Taemin in Japan I think a year or 2 ago. Heaven (which was released officially in Act 2 and promoted with Idea for the first week) was performed previously and the stage is incredible with it rising 45 degrees and dancing. The other performances are amazing as well, along with the vocals. ruclips.net/video/PhtvsSo_Ba8/видео.html Edit: you don't have to react to it since it's a longer video and I'm not sure about copyright or anything, but it would be good for you to watch it to see his energy live and with an audience
Shinee are pros at half-heartedly doing their choreography and still always be on beat and look good. If you check out their 2x for Sherlock or Everybody and their rollercoaster dance for Good Evening, they are amazing but you can see how they take shortcuts to preserve their energy and make the big picture look perfect.
Thank you Jeff for reacting to this! I always like the way you explain your analysis in details, I think I always learn something new by watching your videos. And as a big Taemin fan, I'd love to see professionals analyze his choreographies and dancing styles but it's hard to find someone who explains it as eloquent as you, and as genuinely interested in the kpop industry as you. Taemin has been working so hard for many years to build his own strong identity as a performer, and now seeing his hard work had come to fruition when the audience can easily recognize his signature poses and moves is so satisfying :)
Omigod your final words has summarized my thoughts for the dance video. I was a bit sad when it was released bc it doesnt seem synchronized with me and a lot of the back up dancers individual dancing style was very apparent so it made me wonder why taemin would upload it. What you said made so much sense.
JEFF!! I really hope you can react to two of his LIVE stages!! He has a choreography for HEAVEN and performed it for Opening Concert I believe. It was incredible. And then IDEA live as well, I really hope you'll be able to react to the two videos. He went +100% on them!
Hey Jeff, thank you for reacting to Taemin (and Shinee), you made my day! Also, you absolutely have to watch the 100SEC choreography that was posted today on Dingo music. Taemin´s doing all the killing parts of move, want, press your number and criminal in a row, and it´s phenomenal
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for mentioning how Taemin plays with gender and a contrast of "masucline" and "feminine" movements!! I've been saying the same thing for years, and it needs to be talked about more, because I absolutely LOVE his stylistic choices and fluid interpretation with every move!
Have you seen his Idea performance video on dingo music? It's incredible, to me it shows off the choreo beautifully! Also I'm sure I saw somewhere that Ian Eastwood is one of the choreographers for this and I know he makes likes to make choreos that has moves that fit the instrumentation of songs
Taemin has said that he aims for making "visual music" and i think he succeeds! Watch the Growth of Taemin videos. They are very intresting and informative. BTW, you are very cute and fun to watch. Thanks
did you notice that for most of the time taemin is almost the only one looking straight forward. most of the dancers look on the floor... he is such a good dancer. it feels like this is a masterclass, you learn so much just by watching his practices.
yay!!! i've been waiting for this video!! one thing i was curious about in this choreo was how taemin changed from being surrounded by all male to all female dancers--and then mixed at certain parts. i wondered if it had any meaning--like if certain choreo was purposely given to certain genders. some of the more fluid movements seemed to be given to the female crew...? idk but if that's the case, that only further shows how flexible taemin is in pulling both femininity and masculinity into his movement. king shit!!
I love watching Taemin in practice. Master Class! But knpw we need super streaming CRIMNAL for MAMA2020! Please don't forget IDEA too! Shawols please beleive we need to try and I know you will! Lets go!!
Did anyone realize that the dancer with the with the bun was the dancer and choreographer I think for chungha stay tonight. She’s also been in other songs for other idols too but I forgot which ones. But all the dancers did such a good job on this choreography and still kind of showed their own style when dancing and you can tell!
the choreographers for this dance were keone madrid, ian eastwood (he choreographed taemin's danger, his first solo! you should check it out as well!) bailey sok and kasper (he choreographed baekhyun's candy and participated in choreographing for criminal as well, he's one of the dancers here as well!) it's insane how these choreographers were able to create such a masterpiece that is this choreography it's just so different and so taemin
Thank God I found Taemin. He is a masterpiece. Been an exol for a while now because of quarantine then fell in love with SuperM and was so happy when he released 2 kids, followed by Criminal then now Idea. He just blows my mind. His "move" and "want" age like fine wine. There's something about his moves and his voice. Damn. Only Taemin. I also found out that Criminal was based on Stockholm Syndrome and Idea was based on Plato's theory. It really attracts me when an artist/artists have unique storyline in their MVs and not just pure "cute and handsome concepts with uplifting lyrics". Tired of that. Good thing Taemin, and EXO keep me alive. They're saving pure kpop talent. Looking forward to SHINee's comeback!
I think he's dancing very technically here since he's practicing and needs to maintain his energy, but for his MV and live stages, he puts in more emotions and definitely goes harder. That's what makes him such a great live performer! Watch his live stage from SBS Inkigayo (blue suit). That's my favourite live performance of IDEA so far with good camera work! 🥰
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Taemin would be so happy to hear your comment about how you can tell a move is very “taemin”. He’s been working very hard to create his identity, that’s been his focus all along.
Yeah 🥺❤
And he has totally succeeded!! 💕💕💎
Yeah and that’s what makes him the greatest dancer in kpop because he has honed his craft so much that you can identify a Taemin move, many dancers are rarely able to achieve this no matter how good they are, which is something MJ was also able to do. Taemin should be extremely proud of himself.
@@vilisco6025 yh the fact that mj was inspired by so many ppl but we recognise those moves as "mj moves" says a lot. tbh there are MANY great dancers, i don't really classify taemin as such anymore bc he's so much more. all his development & work behind the scenes solidifies him as a great artist.
Agree
to me taemin and boa will always be the best dancers in kpop. it's not only about their moves, they have something else... btw, the "killing me softly" parts were sung by boa.
I think they are well respected as actual dancers, not just idol dancers as well. Personally I agree with you, clearly no one comes close to Taemin dance wise with males and I think Boa also set that bar for the females. Both powerhouses in both vocals and dance!
I love how ur profile pic is jennie, but u know who to choose when it comes to kpop best dancers, which boa and taemin. I mean, it just very rare to see 4th gen kpop fans to mention boa hahahaha
@@shinywol7287 blackpink is 3rd gen but i see what you mean
Yep, exactly. I think Hyoyeon is the only one to come close to BoA's level and I see Ten only getting better. Taemin and BoA are both lauded by idol dancers and professionals alike :')
100%, and to me I would also add in Yunho, Eunhyuk, Taeyong, Hyoyeon and Seulgi👌
The fact that some of the back-up dancers here are literally SM's choreographers. The POWER of Taemin y'all!! 🔥❤
Literally 2 of the choreographers are dancing and promoting with him!
Yes, and it's not the first time too! Even the choreographers love him!
but honestly,. who the fekjekr could even play at his lvl lmao 😂 he's just over there. not even at our human lvl. lol
I only know kasper, who's the other one??
@@FAY-di7rg Rian is one. And there's at least one more female choreographer, who also dances in Criminal. I forgot her name but she's also one of Chungha's choreographer.
his dance is verrryyy delicate! his endurance and level of control shines through the yt screen... can't imagine watching him dance *IN PERSON*. and i agreee this choreo has its own choreo language... "its very Taemin"
So his live stage...
it's embarrassing how many times the words "WOAOAOAOA BE CAREFUL you're spinning too close/you'll break your neck at that speed!" and such came screaming to my mind...
"Cuz I have yet to see your actual performance which you haven't even gotten to yet!!!"
It just gushes out of him!
I saw him live on KBS Berlin, and when they announced him all I could think was: you better not start with "Move" what did he start with ofcourse... YOU CAN'T JUST GO AHEAD LIKE THAT AND KILL ME FROM THE START! But I have to say, instead of killing me, his performance gave me life ❤️
Yeah, as for his live performances... I thought I would explode, lose my mind, jump so high that my head would bump into the ceiling, I honestly lost it completely watching him up close. He is like a drug, see him once and this is what you want to do for the rest of your live - watch Lee Taemin perform in front of your face...
@Harmon McCraw To be honest Taemin’s SuperM solo stages absolutely didn’t showcase his real potential - not because of him, but first I was never convinced about the choice of songs, granted Danger is absolutely iconic, but the second song should have been Move or Want (properly staged with both male and female dancers) and not Sayonara Hitori where he dances alone. And second what really bothered me the most was the constant use of stroboscopic lights, which really killed his performance. I couldn’t see a damn thing because of this damn light! As for my experience with his solo concerts I was really close (sitting 10 meters away from the stage, where I could literally see all his facial expressions perfectly and he was able to read my small banner). What can I say - his solo concerts are spectacles beyond imagination! The tension that builds up from the start, the whole production (costumes, lights, moving stages!!!) the way he performs with his amazing dancers is simply mind blowing... Second time I was a little further away, but still close enough to see him without having to look at those huge screens. Third time was a different concert (TMI), where my place was much further away and as much as I still loved the concert and was excited beyond imagination throughout, the experience have no comparison to being really close to him...
@Harmon McCraw Well I know everyone has their idea of where the best seat is. Myself I'm very particular about this. It depends on the event. When it's the symphony, I want the balcony (sound travels up). Anything involving a performance with many moving parts I always choose a seat at either corner of the stage just high enough to see all the way to the back of the stage but can still get a good look at their facial performance. BEING visible myself is of no relevance because the times when I'm performing on stage...whether in a theatre or stadium concert...my visibility reaches only as far as the edge of the stage (wherever the lighting facing down on it stops). It's like a black curtain in front of the audience (conveniently helps you to focus). So I had a clear view of everything. But the only problem was that the whole time they were right in front of me, I could hardly tare my eyes from the dang screen (I'm also a photographer) & all the REALLY amazing shots they were capturing!!! Pretty hopeless 😅
Actually he said in an interview that the ending of Criminal (the iconic T pose he does all the time) is the choreo continuation to the beginning of IDEA.
In that interview, he gets asked about his habits and what he does when he performs like the position of his hand to the angle of his neck and face or how he stands. Listening to him explain it is super interesting haha
Oh, that was a great interview! I just watched it earlier. It was definitely very interesting to hear.
oh!! i saw that interview!!! it was really so interesting haha
and the amount of detail taemin thinks about and incorporates into his art is just incredible!
ruclips.net/video/7hNC8Owcliw/видео.html (this is the link to the interview ^^)
@@naps9754 jaejae unni is a super funny interviewer ahahah. the whole interview was a BLAST!
@@Skater21Loverboyz RIGHT! it was so cool just trynna see a peek at what goes on in a King’s head yanno 🤣
I watched that right before this video ahah
He's dancing like we are breathing, it looks like only a routine for him
Some of Taemin's backup dancers are choreographers themselves, some are award winners in national and international championships. It just goes to show how talented Taemin is. Because his dancers can pop off and not worry about overshadowing the main artist. I remember reading somewhere about one dancer who has been dancing for 15 years, and saying that in a concert, the backup dancers usually fill the gap to make the performance 100%. But Taemin was the only one who says that he will give 100%, so they should give 100% too. That is why all his performances are phenomenal and incomparable.👑
I don't know if you've watched Taemin on MMTG, but he explained the details he put in his choreographies and the "iconic Taemin moves". I think it's very interesting because we don't usually get to hear the artist talk about his craft like this. This is the link if you want to watch it: ruclips.net/video/7hNC8Owcliw/видео.html
Yessss @Jeff Avenue, I think you will enjoy this video because you will see how much dedicated Taemin is with details. You like to pay attention to details so I think you’ll be interested to that.
Oh yes, I loved that interview!! It's also really funny and the writers must have been Taemin's fans too to pick out all his signature moves on stage😊
Ty!!
This interview is so good, i loved it!!
Taemin never goes above 100% in the dance practice videos like he does in his MVs and live performances. Because it's practice and not a live stage. Even if it's the one they're filming to post online.
In the dance practice videos he is at 100% while in the live stages and MVs he is at 200% most of the time lol
Yes...in my words i said he is not performing in dance practice video
He's dancing very technically here, while on stage he puts in more emotions. But yeah, he's definitely not 100% here, I mean he's not even tired at the end.. In the MV though, he was giving it 100% and it looked so amazing! His inkigayo live stage was also amazing! That's my favourite one😍💞💎
I like him in dance practice more than in live stage, in dance practice he always give his 100 % aura control, while in live stage he need to focus on his singing
No One literally No one even Jeff:
Every chorus has a different choreography and gets more and more intense.
I think most of Taemin's songs have different choreography in every chorus.
i was about to say that
Keone Madrid, Ian Eastwood, Bailey Sok and Kasper did such a good job with this choreography!!!!
Oooooh Ian was involved? That's so good that they worked together again, also Taemin did mention how much he admires how Ian dances to the music and hits the accents.
Wait Bailey worked on this?? OMG
they’re so amazing
Wait Bailey co coreoed this fr?????
The beginning of IDEA is the end of Criminal and the shadow dance in IDEA is a homage to SHINee’s Sherlock, which he’s stated is one of his favorite SHINee songs which he’s also mixed with his solo debut song Danger. Taemin puts so much thought and effort into what he does and makes it look effortless. Thank you for appreciating Taemin!!
When you talked about movements and said we can say "that's a Taemin move", that was so on point. I grew up wanting to dance like Michael and Janet Jackson because of their movements and performances and now I wish I could perform like Taemin. He brings such artistry and uniqueness to his performances.
YES. Taemin’s role model is MJ and he’s inspired by him. Even the way he sings I can see the influence, where he really puts energy and life into pop songs. But Taemin is also different. It’s not mimicking MJ. He develops his own style. For example his music and dance has more asian element in it. I’m not a pro so I don’t know how to describe it.I am so happy to finally find my ultimate bias after MJ.
Taemin's body is an instrument to play his music
the fact that taemin always makes himself into a dance crew with his backup dancers and create a masterpiece TOGETHER makes me adore him more
How can Taemin keep pushing it release after release?
Honestly quality wise Ive never seen a popstar so consistent like this
Idea's Choreography: Kasper (who worked on the "Criminal" performance), Ian Eastwood (who choreographed Danger), world-famous choreographers Keone Madrid and Bailey Sok and ofc Taemin ✨
Oh, you need to watch his lives stages, he goes HARDER. He even performed the song with the outfit of his photo teasers, the one suit with a SKIRT and still he did amazing!!✨ Taemin always give his 100% on the stage and I love that from him ❤
@Harmon McCraw The camerawork from music shows is really bad most of the time. I would recommend you to watch "fancams" like this one: ruclips.net/video/MbxjuC8i7EQ/видео.html
It's the performance of which I'm talking in my first comment ^^
@Harmon McCraw The inkigayo stage was the best! You can see the dance the best and he was going full out😘 Yeah, I couldn't stand the other music shows either..
@Harmon McCraw Yup, that was great too! I like the full fancam versions the most since you see the full dance, including his amazing backup dancers.
jeff: 'who thinks of these kinds of moves?"
me like : 'ofc bailey sok'
did she choreograph idea too?? i only know she also did psycho. i love her so muchh she's really talented
@@soleah3683 yeah.. She said that idea was the first male dance she choreograph...sorry for my bad english
@@wewewewuwuwu8214wooww ok thank you
i thought that kasper made this choreography
@@llaoniesss1695 It’s a collab of couple of very talented people - Kasper was one of them, also Ian Eastwood and Keone Madrid.
I love the contrast between his chill/relaxed movements, with the aggressive/dramatic music. It somehow articulates more power like how powerful ppl are even more intimidating when they’re relaxed/unbothered. He always executes his concepts so well.
Idea choreography has the same vibe as Move but it contains a lot of accents (in a way)... it's like chill but a different kind of chill... like you said, laid back, effortless, but still emphasized🌟🌟
TAEMIN once again proving he’s an icon
And the choregraphers for this song are kasper, ian eastwood, keone and bailey. Ian eastwood one of my fav choreo. He and taemin....have the same vibes ❤❤❤
Somehow some of their back dancers are the choreographers
Yeaaah we can see kasper there and IDEA MV too
Wait what!? Kasper is in the mv?! I didn't notice that!!?
there's actually Chungha's choreographers in there too (Simez and Rian) and an ex-member of justjerk crew as well
"He just breathe and it's there" u got it jeff!!!
I think the "in-between beat" concept has something to do with Ian Eastwood. I watched a "teaching" (?) or dance workshop he did and he emphasized that doing choreography doesn't only mean using the beats of a song. He said it's also very important to take note of the instrumentation, other sources of sound within the song itself...and most of those sounds/layers don't move according to the beat but fill up the spaces between. And Ian Eastwood co-choreographed IDEA.
Because of his unique style he is highly regarded as an original dancer in Kpop, no on was ever able to copy it and radiate the same feeling/ energy
Hi Jeff , your hands are so busy. It looks like you’re conducting Taemin‘s choreo!
5:55 : "Who thinks of these kind of moves?"
actually, the guy second from the left at that timestamp is the choreographer, Kasper! to answer you question Jeff lol
I like to watch your reactions because you observe very carefully. Taemin is actually a very talented and hard-working artist. You can see how unique his style is and how much he likes to be on stage.
You're so right! Taemin breathes and he's already dancing!
keone madrid, ian eastwood, kasper and bailey sok choreographed this!!!! like holy crap. legends.
where criminal ends, idea begins, that's why the begining looks like that. but yeah, that's true it's still very taemin pose lol
omg idk the taeyong picture gonna be THAT big
Yessss, 15 minute reaction! FEED US B*TCH! That theatre exercise thing was interested to learn, never knew about that.
Your analysis as a performer is so insightful and I love how it truly highlights Taemin’s artistry as a performer himself. Thank you for this video and I hope you keep up the amazing work 🤗
'lazy dancing' (his members named it that way) is also a forté of Sujus main dancer Eunhyuk. bish looks so relaxed it's sick, SM really do have the greatest dancers. I can't get over it.
taemin moves just like water. so precise and smooth
We are so overwhelmed of so many dance performances of IDEA, aside from this dance practice which we dont normally see his facial expression, there is a performance dance video via DINGO and Taemin was wearing white crop top and they danced on the building rooftop, it was awesome!!!! And I can't help but watching that first than the dance practice! You can also clearly see the patch which is covering his tattoo on his upper hip...the visual was kinda hyped!
Taemin has been working so hard, for years, to build is identity as a performer, it really warms my heart when you say "that's so Taemin"
I mean he is sooo epic , no one can even get closer to what he does
Hey Jeff, so the choreo is a combination of Ian Eastwood (who did his Danger), Kasper, Keone Madrid, & Bailey Sok. I think that's why there's so much going on & how barely anything repeats.
Edit: and you're definitely right about how he didn't seem to go as hard on the dance practice. Taemin rarely goes all out on dance practices. In fact, Criminal was an exception. If you watch the official fancams from the live, you can see him do the moves more energetically than the dance practice.
There are many great dancers in Kpop, but Taemin is the best among them without any question. He's already completed his own style which is elegant and delicate. now I'm so looking forward his next work.
I just found this channel and I have to say one of the most iconic moments of Taemin dancing like ever was for the SMTown live world tour 2017 SHinee were he dances press your number and there's a part were he goes from laying on the ground to standing up in like a second
I got distracted by dat taeyong pic on wall haha
I was thoroughly happy to hear your thoughts, thank you very much for your detailed analysis and all the interesting references to theatrical exercises, constructing the choreography, using backup dancers and also planning the whole choreography in a way it would fit a huge stage performance. I also feel that Taemin’s choreographies in general, perhaps this one in particular are very original and full of surprising ideas (pun intended 😂), which make them stand out so much in the most positive way from what we often see in today’s Kpop, which would be strong, very synchronized and robotic dancing. Taemin is a real visionary, he envisions his stages already while selecting songs for his albums and often a song is picked by him, cause he can visualize it being performed on his concerts and that really blows my mind that he thinks that way! I will finally subscribe to your channel, cause I feel that you are honest and professional in your opinions and I admire your knowledge and pleasant personality.
I feel like not a lot of dancers have moves that you call 'such a ... move', except Michael Jackson. And now also Taemin, he's so unique I don't know how to describe him
Omg you gotta see him teaching this to Haechan (pretending to be Mark, gushing/fanboying uncontrollably over Taemin...Taemin dissing his own “archaic” moves & putting Haechan on the spot to re interpret “Haechan style”) & some SM employee (aka “the Move guy”) who posted a Taemin cover that went viral (Taemin: “You know it could’ve been better right?”
“Move” guy: “I’m just a regular guy I’m not Haechan!!! 😡”)...
and to top it off Ten who overheard & snuck in uninvited to score a piece of the not yet released choreo. I drove myself crazy with the “rewind” button...SO funny!
What video is this?!
@@mikosan89 you can just find it on youtube "Idea dance tutorial with 탬도를 Taemin"
Jeff: Who thinks of these moves
Hhm let’s ask bailey sok keone madrid ian eastwood and kasper
Sooo true about his choreos being for the big stage. Please react to Heaven live at concert. It’s very dramatic and performed on a titled stage 🙏
This choreography and his dance is just amazing,and as you said it’s very Taemin
I love that you talked about how his stages will be set with like the lights and smoke, because that's literally what he's been doing with his stages. It's so amazing how you can visualize performances like that! I love this reaction, the way you explain movements and intricacies from a performers point of view is really eye opening!! Can't wait to see your next one.
I'm not sure if you'll see this, however this is a link to like 4 performances by Taemin in Japan I think a year or 2 ago. Heaven (which was released officially in Act 2 and promoted with Idea for the first week) was performed previously and the stage is incredible with it rising 45 degrees and dancing. The other performances are amazing as well, along with the vocals.
ruclips.net/video/PhtvsSo_Ba8/видео.html
Edit: you don't have to react to it since it's a longer video and I'm not sure about copyright or anything, but it would be good for you to watch it to see his energy live and with an audience
Shinee are pros at half-heartedly doing their choreography and still always be on beat and look good. If you check out their 2x for Sherlock or Everybody and their rollercoaster dance for Good Evening, they are amazing but you can see how they take shortcuts to preserve their energy and make the big picture look perfect.
Thank you Jeff for reacting to this! I always like the way you explain your analysis in details, I think I always learn something new by watching your videos. And as a big Taemin fan, I'd love to see professionals analyze his choreographies and dancing styles but it's hard to find someone who explains it as eloquent as you, and as genuinely interested in the kpop industry as you.
Taemin has been working so hard for many years to build his own strong identity as a performer, and now seeing his hard work had come to fruition when the audience can easily recognize his signature poses and moves is so satisfying :)
Taemin,kpop king of king!thank u for reaction!
u are talking about the details which is really good thx .
Thank you Jeff for your videos, we appreciate even more choreos with your analysis. I was waiting for your reaction to King Taemin.
"couture", yeah right, every time I hear this song, It makes me want to do a catwalk.
BoA really killed that "Killing me softly"
Omigod your final words has summarized my thoughts for the dance video. I was a bit sad when it was released bc it doesnt seem synchronized with me and a lot of the back up dancers individual dancing style was very apparent so it made me wonder why taemin would upload it. What you said made so much sense.
JEFF!! I really hope you can react to two of his LIVE stages!! He has a choreography for HEAVEN and performed it for Opening Concert I believe. It was incredible. And then IDEA live as well, I really hope you'll be able to react to the two videos. He went +100% on them!
Hey Jeff, thank you for reacting to Taemin (and Shinee), you made my day! Also, you absolutely have to watch the 100SEC choreography that was posted today on Dingo music. Taemin´s doing all the killing parts of move, want, press your number and criminal in a row, and it´s phenomenal
If you look closely Taemin always has the same dancers, you might recognize the female dancers from Move or Want
They are different jajaja this is with la chica dance group (who work with chungha). Move and want was with aura dance group (who work with sunmi).
At this point, he is using Taemin as a a verb and an adjective!!
it's always fun watching your reaction. i like your detail explanations about every single thing. thankyou for reacting to taemin's IDEA :)
IKR! For me the ‘so taemin’ moves are head tilts, spins and wavy moves he always has those moves in his routines!
Bailey Sok, Keone Madrid, Ian Eastwood, and Kasper all helped choreographed this! They're amazing choreographers and I loved what they did!
As always, thank you so much for your reaction Jeff, you’re so articulate and all your commentary is so honest and valuable ❤️
when you started talking about that theatre exercise i just got flashbacks omg i miss theatre
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for mentioning how Taemin plays with gender and a contrast of "masucline" and "feminine" movements!! I've been saying the same thing for years, and it needs to be talked about more, because I absolutely LOVE his stylistic choices and fluid interpretation with every move!
Have you seen his Idea performance video on dingo music? It's incredible, to me it shows off the choreo beautifully! Also I'm sure I saw somewhere that Ian Eastwood is one of the choreographers for this and I know he makes likes to make choreos that has moves that fit the instrumentation of songs
Taemin has said that he aims for making "visual music" and i think he succeeds! Watch the Growth of Taemin videos. They are very intresting and informative. BTW, you are very cute and fun to watch. Thanks
Some of his back dancer literally a choreographer sjshdhd barely seen any choreographer to join the show as a back dancer and glad taemin made it👌
Ever since I saw your reacts to kpop, I have been looking forward to your videos. Stay safe Jeff!
I really love the way you talk and explain everything here
Taemin is another level. He already became an adjective 😅👑👏
the accumulative cannon in the last chorus gets me every-time i see it!!!!!
Jeff Avenue your hair looks great here ..n I agree Taemin I'd very no other category other than of his own calling "Taemin"
One of kings of isolation
Hey Jeff have you seen the video where Taemin teaches Haechan from NCT a little bit of this choreo?
did you notice that for most of the time taemin is almost the only one looking straight forward. most of the dancers look on the floor... he is such a good dancer. it feels like this is a masterclass, you learn so much just by watching his practices.
YOU LOOK SO GOOD HERE!! MAN I LOVE YOUR HAIR!
Actually, his entrance into “ Idea” is the ending pose to “ criminal.” This was his way of tying to the two stories together.
finally itssss heree.
btw i just found out you're a filipino and i was super shocked 🇵🇭🇵🇭
I just love how everyone seems to be dying csuse they have no breath and then there’s Taemin being like ☺️🥰
yay!!! i've been waiting for this video!!
one thing i was curious about in this choreo was how taemin changed from being surrounded by all male to all female dancers--and then mixed at certain parts. i wondered if it had any meaning--like if certain choreo was purposely given to certain genders. some of the more fluid movements seemed to be given to the female crew...? idk but if that's the case, that only further shows how flexible taemin is in pulling both femininity and masculinity into his movement. king shit!!
I really enjoy hearing your perspective! You notice so many things I never would and I love learning more about how choreos come together.
I love jeff’s new lighting!!
I love how and how u catch every important details from the video, thank you seriously hahahah
I recommend the performance video on the roof. The camera work really follows every move it looks amazing
I love watching Taemin in practice. Master Class!
But knpw we need super streaming CRIMNAL for MAMA2020! Please don't forget IDEA too!
Shawols please beleive we need to try and I know you will! Lets go!!
Were you referring to the Suzuki acting method that incorporates body movement?
Did anyone realize that the dancer with the with the bun was the dancer and choreographer I think for chungha stay tonight. She’s also been in other songs for other idols too but I forgot which ones. But all the dancers did such a good job on this choreography and still kind of showed their own style when dancing and you can tell!
Thank you so much for your analysis!
Taemin explain a lot of his performing habits in MMTG ep.155 I hope you can react to that but if you cannot it is also great to enjoy it on your own:)
the choreographers for this dance were keone madrid, ian eastwood (he choreographed taemin's danger, his first solo! you should check it out as well!) bailey sok and kasper (he choreographed baekhyun's candy and participated in choreographing for criminal as well, he's one of the dancers here as well!) it's insane how these choreographers were able to create such a masterpiece that is this choreography it's just so different and so taemin
'Want' and 'Criminal' choreography was also so Taemin
Thank God I found Taemin. He is a masterpiece. Been an exol for a while now because of quarantine then fell in love with SuperM and was so happy when he released 2 kids, followed by Criminal then now Idea. He just blows my mind. His "move" and "want" age like fine wine. There's something about his moves and his voice. Damn. Only Taemin. I also found out that Criminal was based on Stockholm Syndrome and Idea was based on Plato's theory. It really attracts me when an artist/artists have unique storyline in their MVs and not just pure "cute and handsome concepts with uplifting lyrics". Tired of that. Good thing Taemin, and EXO keep me alive. They're saving pure kpop talent. Looking forward to SHINee's comeback!
I think he's dancing very technically here since he's practicing and needs to maintain his energy, but for his MV and live stages, he puts in more emotions and definitely goes harder. That's what makes him such a great live performer! Watch his live stage from SBS Inkigayo (blue suit). That's my favourite live performance of IDEA so far with good camera work! 🥰
WTF YOU’RE SO UNDERRATED :0 I’m def subscribing!
i've been waiting for thisssss thank you so much!