The Alternate Ending to UNDERTALE's Genocide Path! Undertale Theory | UNDERLAB

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    The genocide path within UNDERTALE is one of misery and despair. We kill our former friends and foes in a reckless crusade to stamp out the existence of monsterkind. The ending is particularly grim and disturbing, with many mysteries left unexplained. However, could things have turned out differently? Perhaps the more you look into it, the less Chara and Frisk actually achieved...
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  • @Underlab
    @Underlab  6 лет назад +935

    Chara gave this video a knife out of ten, which was very kind of them and I'm thankful for the recommendation. How differently do you think the genocide route could have ended?
    Make sure to check out King Mel's incredible Undertale inspired music! ruclips.net/video/SAlXi3IjbFE/видео.html

    • @spongeeater
      @spongeeater 6 лет назад +12

      Underlab you fight both Flowey & and Chara!!

    • @pokemonmastermagican6863
      @pokemonmastermagican6863 6 лет назад +13

      Underlab instead of the underground being erased. Frisk could have killed chara.

    • @aydenkotnik4296
      @aydenkotnik4296 6 лет назад +6

      I'd give it a ten out of knife

    • @pokemonmastermagican6863
      @pokemonmastermagican6863 6 лет назад +6

      silent blod The fandom has already taken over the channel

    • @aidenb200
      @aidenb200 6 лет назад +3

      Underlab could you make a video describing why sans didn't teleport to the serface and got 7 human souls plz

  • @verdragon5591
    @verdragon5591 6 лет назад +1654

    I wonder what Asgore was thinking during the fight with Sans. I bet he was like: KEEP IT DOWN I'M WATERING MY FLOWERS

    • @kate-gq4ne
      @kate-gq4ne 6 лет назад +32

      verdragon 5 lol

    • @rikkawhiterose662
      @rikkawhiterose662 6 лет назад +109

      Asgore: ....Ah.. beautiful flowers

    • @notsoanon2014
      @notsoanon2014 6 лет назад +102

      Asgore: Nice day today!

    • @visjex7498
      @visjex7498 6 лет назад +22

      Zosonils The Hedgehog that's probably accurate

    • @totalawesomeness2310
      @totalawesomeness2310 6 лет назад +25

      verdragon 5 If he had a brain then it'd be like. Oh shit, I need to fuck up this kid right now (absorbs souls)

  • @nitro0100
    @nitro0100 4 года назад +510

    Neutral Asgore: Goodbye, human.
    Pacifist Asgore: Goodbye, human.
    Genocide Asgore: *Want a cup of tea?*

    • @dragonboi6744
      @dragonboi6744 4 года назад +50

      Nobody:
      Asgore at the end of genoside: “may I offer you a cup of tea in this trying time”

    • @Ruggi21
      @Ruggi21 4 года назад +33

      He ask: “umm I’m confused, what kind of monster you would be?”

    • @wefgra1047
      @wefgra1047 3 года назад +27

      Pacifist: Human it was nice to mee- *gets hit by toriel*

    • @Jaf_Easybots
      @Jaf_Easybots 3 года назад +8

      @@poissonmulti-taches2742 you are actually very wrong monsters think humans can be kind while humans think monsters are evil creatures that need to be wiped of the face of the earth

    • @Jaf_Easybots
      @Jaf_Easybots 3 года назад +4

      @Indian Royalist Mapping I don’t know if you read that right

  • @Ren-zg7nu
    @Ren-zg7nu 6 лет назад +475

    Actually the "Death Sound is actually just the "End of Conflict" sound as you hear this sound even on the pacifist roite when sparing monsters

    • @kathleenthe7th
      @kathleenthe7th 6 лет назад +7

      Yep.

    • @kate-gq4ne
      @kate-gq4ne 6 лет назад +42

      WeirdInGemeral still sans dies. It makes more sense after all why would we gain LOVE, witch you get by killing people

    • @vvlaze
      @vvlaze 6 лет назад +20

      Chara still gains exp from it, so Sans did die.

    • @smileyface81mc77
      @smileyface81mc77 6 лет назад +18

      I mean, it is just Level Of ViolencE, so maybe by committing violent acts but not killing others you can get LV? Execution points, maybe it's just executing a plan. In this case it's to kill all monsters.

    • @Cyclamenz
      @Cyclamenz 6 лет назад +29

      Sans must be dead, or the scene loses its impact. As for those saying Chara gained the EXP, that is incorrect. YOU chose to attack, YOU moved the box over, YOU dealt the final blow, and it was the actions of YOU that led to the moment. Chara may have enabled the actions, but it was YOU who chose to fight. Chara cannot be blamed for it.

  • @rogerx2000
    @rogerx2000 6 лет назад +609

    wait...isn't the sound of death the same as the sound of a spared enemy?

    • @deadaccount4630
      @deadaccount4630 6 лет назад +17

      Rogerx Yes, but that weird too tbh

    • @wypmangames
      @wypmangames 6 лет назад +5

      Rogerx yes

    • @yhitsdizzi8592
      @yhitsdizzi8592 6 лет назад +37

      For me then its Spare or be spared

    • @pink1200
      @pink1200 6 лет назад +23

      It's just an end of battle sound

    • @lakefeatherss
      @lakefeatherss 6 лет назад +36

      Rogerx Yeeep.... But when you spare, you don't level up or get exp. But I still hope that Sans could've tricked the game into doing that, because when you hack the game, the Neutral ending(called the impossible or dirty hacker ending) He knows XD

  • @smolsenpaiaj3667
    @smolsenpaiaj3667 6 лет назад +110

    Fun fact: frisks eyes are really open. But Toby just made the Sprite to where their eyes are closed. Because he DOSENT want them to look like charas. Toby stated this himself. It's canon.

    • @joekeen4454
      @joekeen4454 4 года назад +3

      I am not sure if this is a joke, if it is not, then that "canon" actually exist

    • @thechallengers1899
      @thechallengers1899 4 года назад +18

      @@slimeboy2048 canon is a real word not cannon, like a boom thing that makes a ball fly. canon means something that is actually part of the main story

    • @catalyst539
      @catalyst539 3 года назад +2

      slime boy, Is this a joke, or a cannon meme?

    • @LS-pl4sn
      @LS-pl4sn 3 года назад +7

      @@slimeboy2048 Canon literally means something that is true to the original story 😑

    • @dbdmthepulse
      @dbdmthepulse 3 года назад +3

      @@LS-pl4sn r/wooosh

  • @Kuwassu
    @Kuwassu 6 лет назад +448

    I would have imagined an alternate version of the path is if Flowey take the human souls (and possibly Asgore's), he would us them for good (to possibly become Asriel once more) to reset the timeline

    • @launched_
      @launched_ 6 лет назад +57

      Aivaylas
      I think he needed 7 human souls for that. When he became Omega Flowey he had only 6. In pacifist he had 6 human souls and thousands of monsters souls, which could be equal to 7 human souls.

    • @traveel9409
      @traveel9409 6 лет назад +26

      Swedish Attack Helicopter
      He still has control over the timeline.

    • @maia9726
      @maia9726 6 лет назад +25

      He needs all monster's souls, though, and they're already all dead.

    • @FlameChy
      @FlameChy 6 лет назад +3

      Swedish Attack Helicopter Aye I’m Swedish to

    • @launched_
      @launched_ 6 лет назад +3

      NTCG Cheese!!!!!
      Wow! I didn't know that there were other Swedes using the Internet!

  • @belugaplane9378
    @belugaplane9378 6 лет назад +131

    Haven't even watched the video:
    Flower absorbed the six human souls, and because it was for a good cause, the souls wouldn't rebell.

    • @Xman34washere
      @Xman34washere 4 года назад +3

      You called it

    • @diosama8861
      @diosama8861 4 года назад +7

      I haven't watched it as well,but I think the Souls WOULD rebel just because of revenge against the Monster. Because Asgore *DID* kill all 6 of them when they just wanted to go home. and,we humans fear things we don't understand and we generally help our own species rather than things we don't even understand. So I think it would make no general sense of the Souls helping flowey. (and Flowey is a pretty big psychopath himself)

    • @nahumzebulun9013
      @nahumzebulun9013 4 года назад +2

      @@diosama8861 but frisk and chara would have not just killed the monsters but humans aswell. Plus chara erased the whole universe. So why will they rebel?

    • @diosama8861
      @diosama8861 4 года назад +1

      @@nahumzebulun9013 We are the ones who know Chara erased the universe because we are the ones who had the choice to either erase it or not erase it. The souls had nothing to do with the erasure of the universe and they knew nothing about it. And how did chara have the power to erase the universe? Is it due to the souls? Then why did they not rebel?

    • @nahumzebulun9013
      @nahumzebulun9013 4 года назад +1

      @@diosama8861 chara had the power too because the high amounts of determination. If determination can make and reset timelines determination can probably distroy them too. And you are right. The most likely didnt know about the erasure.

  • @bebungus
    @bebungus 6 лет назад +773

    Why did the skeleton go alone to grillby’s?
    A human.....

    • @luukas6063
      @luukas6063 6 лет назад +14

      Boardgamefan NOOO 😓😫

    • @awip121
      @awip121 6 лет назад +7

      Boardgamefan rip

    • @luukas6063
      @luukas6063 6 лет назад +7

      NASTY BEEN F**K YOU LOL😂

    • @anisbeng8445
      @anisbeng8445 6 лет назад +4

      Boardgamefan very good yet very sad

    • @kathleenthe7th
      @kathleenthe7th 6 лет назад +5

      FUCK YOU THATS COLD

  • @chronos3717
    @chronos3717 6 лет назад +817

    Um, actually the Sans fight happens when you're LOVE is 19 but when the death sound plays, you instantly convert to 20 meaning that yes, Sans DID die.
    Edit: (guys it’s been three years please shut up)

    • @Cosmical_Comet0477
      @Cosmical_Comet0477 6 лет назад +103

      Mr. Grenny Love, level of violence, thinking they killed sans probably made them lvl up.

    • @lancerralseijoinedyourpart3633
      @lancerralseijoinedyourpart3633 6 лет назад +103

      violence doesnt mean killing and if sans could heal off screen with his hotdogs and hot cats and recreate the death sound YOU wouldnt know he lived and you was violent and gained a level

    • @curcarobert8864
      @curcarobert8864 6 лет назад +63

      Level of violence.. maybe you only hurt sans badly...

    • @lancerralseijoinedyourpart3633
      @lancerralseijoinedyourpart3633 6 лет назад +31

      his soul didnt die straight away and you didnt see the dust straight away so he could of still lived he wjust went off screen healed before death

    • @kathleenthe7th
      @kathleenthe7th 6 лет назад +76

      I've seen theories. Its your CAPACITY to kill, isn't it? Therefore, if frisk is doing genocide, could it possibly raise without killing? Using intent to kill? Kinda like in glitchtale I guess but this is a bad reason.

  • @izzrainy7410
    @izzrainy7410 6 лет назад +82

    You dealt 99999999999 damage!
    To the deluxe bottle of ketchup - special edition in his jacket!

    • @bulbasaur1375
      @bulbasaur1375 6 лет назад +5

      Pixel Breaker Hey can I borrow that?
      I only have BBQ in my house

    • @seth-the-inactive
      @seth-the-inactive 4 года назад +9

      Frisk: FINALLY! I KILLED SANS!
      Sans, with tears in his eyes: **pulls the ketchup out of his shirt** My.. my ketchup...
      Frisk: Oh god oh no
      Sans, angry with tears still in his eyes: *YOU ARE ABOUT TO HAVE THE WORST TIME!*

  • @ouroboros2734
    @ouroboros2734 6 лет назад +638

    Undertale will always be one of the best games.

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 6 лет назад +10

      I disagree, every Ace Attorney game (in my opinion) is better, besides AJ and maybe AA1

    • @ouroboros2734
      @ouroboros2734 6 лет назад +36

      I said one of the best games not THE BEST GAME.

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 6 лет назад +11

      Frostbitewarrior Out of all the games I've played, it's one of my faves, although I'm sure there are games that I haven't played that are better

    • @caracalkarting
      @caracalkarting 6 лет назад +4

      nope, sonic 3K, 2 and 1 are better.

    • @ouroboros2734
      @ouroboros2734 6 лет назад +5

      that is probably true.

  • @vyrious7029
    @vyrious7029 6 лет назад +280

    Toby Fox should make Hard Mode Genocide DLC

    • @kathleenthe7th
      @kathleenthe7th 6 лет назад +1

      OOOOO that would be cool

    • @kate-gq4ne
      @kate-gq4ne 6 лет назад +2

      Vyrious no the fans can take care of that and use msg and say it's an 'unused track'

    • @vvlaze
      @vvlaze 6 лет назад +14

      Toby said that if you want DLC or an update, to wipe those thoughts from your mind. He won't do it.

    • @dogedogeness3457
      @dogedogeness3457 6 лет назад

      Vyrious it's on PS4

    • @omega.4433
      @omega.4433 6 лет назад +1

      Vyrious no. not DLC. never DLC.

  • @crazybirdyz5809
    @crazybirdyz5809 6 лет назад +701

    There is a alternate version of the genocide path...
    BURGER PANTS WILL KILL THE HUMAN

    • @deadaccount4630
      @deadaccount4630 6 лет назад +15

      Birdy AJ DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

    • @kathleenthe7th
      @kathleenthe7th 6 лет назад +29

      Haha yeah my brother was holding around and came up with a burgerpants geno fight that would be like impossible to beat. Like sans but a million times harder.

    • @kate-gq4ne
      @kate-gq4ne 6 лет назад +8

      Birdy AJ yeah or the dark side of the fandom make frisk defenseless lol

    • @kro2704
      @kro2704 6 лет назад +14

      Ya, Someone realizes it, also megalovania is Burgerpants theme

    • @awesomesauce5350
      @awesomesauce5350 6 лет назад +4

      AHHHHHHHH

  • @midnightember7435
    @midnightember7435 6 лет назад +146

    I find it incredible that you haven't ran out of ideas yet!!! It seems as though the game has almost infinite possibilities... When I first saw your channel I thought it would only last about six months, look back on it, I am so glad you're still around. Great video 😊

    • @jamesoffutt2801
      @jamesoffutt2801 6 лет назад +1

      Midnight Ember remember, this kid is smart. Everyone knows there are MANY alternate universes in Undertale thank W.D. Gaster for that!

    • @avengancecipher256
      @avengancecipher256 6 лет назад

      Midnight Ember i

  • @Wobbmin
    @Wobbmin 4 года назад +166

    Personally, what I think happened is that when Flowey tried to warn Asgore, he must have mentioned something alluding to your SAVE ability and how Asgore wouldn’t be able to kill us for good. Even Undyne the Undying’s Determination-fueled power boost wasn’t enough. They knew the only way to stop you was to somehow try to convince you to turn back and just stop, like Sans tried to do. That’s why Asgore just tried being nice, and why Flowey tried to reason with their best friend, Chara. Plus, even if one of them did take the Human SOULs, Frisk’s SOUL would have probably just done that whole “But it refused” thing.
    Of course, they knew this probably wouldn’t work - by that point, Frisk had been completely taken over by Chara - but there was still one thing that was guaranteed to bring your progress and reign of terror to a halt: the Barrier. If you left the Underground, you’d kill all of humanity, so their fail safe was to have Flowey make sure Asgore’s SOUL couldn’t be absorbed by you and let you leave, nevermind giving you god-like strength. Unfortunately, Flowey didn’t foresee Chara simply being able to delete the world once they couldn’t go any further.
    That means a Soulless True Pacifist ending is even worse than the Genocide ending. After befriending everyone and saving all monsters and returning to the surface, you turn around and quite literally stab them all in the back, and then you’re still free to kill the rest of humanity.

    • @mcventi4859
      @mcventi4859 3 года назад +7

      Soulless true pacifist is post genocide pacifist (means pacifist after genocide)

    • @me-ree5185
      @me-ree5185 3 года назад +6

      But the human can't absorb souls and get god like strength. Only monsters can

    • @kirby47897
      @kirby47897 2 года назад +8

      @@me-ree5185 yes but he meant if frisk absorbed asgores soul they would be allowed past the barrier

    • @kirby47897
      @kirby47897 2 года назад +5

      If this was true, why didn’t we absorb Toriels soul

    • @me-ree5185
      @me-ree5185 2 года назад +1

      @@kirby47897 oohhhh ok makes sense now

  • @redhotgaming7339
    @redhotgaming7339 6 лет назад +83

    8:01 however when Sans goes off screen the death sound plays and you go to level 20. It seems a bit far fetched to assume that sans can also manipulate LV and EXP, as if he could then you’d probably be lv1 when fighting.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 6 лет назад +10

      LV = Level of Violence, a measure of one's capacity to kill, not how many monsters you've killed.

    • @pink1200
      @pink1200 6 лет назад +6

      It's a battle end sound not a death sound

    • @lakefeatherss
      @lakefeatherss 6 лет назад +2

      Well... I think what you say is true, but he knows when you hack the game and get a impossible/ dirty hacker Neutral ending, soooo Idk XD I just idk

    • @OrangeSlices185
      @OrangeSlices185 6 лет назад +9

      I don't think he would have changed your LV even if he could. He uses karma, which means he's a lot more powerful against someone with a lot of LV.

    • @lugiacatster6920
      @lugiacatster6920 6 лет назад

      no mater what Lv you are you get to lv20

  • @tornadix99
    @tornadix99 6 лет назад +79

    I dont think that the souls have personalities, but rather the traits.
    Maybe a monster can't absorb a soul if the monster does not want one of these traits. Asgore could not absorb the souls because he is not patient as he feels guilt for murdering humans, nor brave enough, nor kind, and he feels he has no justice, etc.
    However flowey is souless, so he could be a sponge absorbing the souls without any problem.
    Now something interesting, if all human souls have determination, if there is a determination soul, does that mean that that soul can have all or no traits apart from determination? Its the same as Flowey then, but without a soul.
    When flowey is omegaflowey, has everitying but lacks a soul, and when becames asriel, since there are a lot of monster souls, they became a human white soul, filled with flowey's determination.
    And that determination is chara's. Determination is a will, so only determination souls can have "personality".

    • @kathleenthe7th
      @kathleenthe7th 6 лет назад

      Huh.

    • @kate-gq4ne
      @kate-gq4ne 6 лет назад +4

      tornadix99 not a bad theory

    • @rainbownekogirl1533
      @rainbownekogirl1533 6 лет назад +1

      tornadix99 very very mysterious...I hope underlab will see this!

    • @otherlego
      @otherlego 6 лет назад

      tornadix99 I

    • @volcanicpizza
      @volcanicpizza 6 лет назад +2

      I can't believe that there are still people who think that the red soul is determination when there's no evidence for it in the game.

  • @Sonicgott
    @Sonicgott 6 лет назад +43

    The interesting thing that if you do a PACIFIST route after a GENOCIDE route, Chara's spirit will inhabit Frisk's body, because you sacrifice Frisk's soul to rebuild the Underground.

  • @mahirukoizumi9992
    @mahirukoizumi9992 6 лет назад +160

    It could've ended with the underground collapsing and everyone on both sides dies the end

    • @glaceonpokemon4712
      @glaceonpokemon4712 6 лет назад +7

      That would be intriguing

    • @aphoticlight
      @aphoticlight 6 лет назад +13

      every living being in the observable universe is eradicated.
      my favorite ending.

    • @mahirukoizumi9992
      @mahirukoizumi9992 6 лет назад +3

      please help me Ikr 💦💦😥😥👌👌🔥🔥🔥😂😂🔥🔥🔥👌👌😂🔥🔥😂🔥

    • @lydiabarnes9061
      @lydiabarnes9061 6 лет назад +2

      Hmm interesting

    • @wynignatius9289
      @wynignatius9289 3 года назад +1

      or volcanic eruption and earthquake

  • @smarty1natsknees
    @smarty1natsknees 6 лет назад +199

    Here's a expansion on the fake death for sans theory.
    What direction does your slash go? Up to down.
    What direction was san's cut? Left to right.
    It missed.
    Sans wants to tell you it missed, so using his magic, he displays MISS.
    But he doesnt this time, and he "dies".
    But, some of the blood is coming from his mouth. Now this may be possible, but let me tell you why it's ketchup.
    Sans's expression. He's smiling. Why would he be smiling in such an intense battle?
    And, when he talks, his mouth doesn't move.
    He's hiding ketchup in his mouth.
    And why does his pockets seem full, when they have got nothing in it?
    He's hiding ketchup in his jacket.
    And why is his hands behind his back?
    He's hiding something to cut his jacket.
    And when does he put his hands infront of his jacket?
    When he's "dead".
    When he cuts his jacket.
    His ketchup spills out his jacket.
    He drips the ketchup from his mouth.
    And walks away with the thing used to cut his jacket behind his back with the other arm.
    But, you still get 1 LVL.
    But the thing is, you get it when you THINK they are dead.
    And the player THINKS they are dead.
    So they get the 1 LVL.

    • @averageperson8450
      @averageperson8450 6 лет назад +20

      Natalie Leigh good theory!

    • @confused9413
      @confused9413 6 лет назад +8

      Wow SO GOOOD

    • @tannerlawley2218
      @tannerlawley2218 6 лет назад +30

      Natalie Leigh this kinda ruins the whole scene of sans “dying” though, I’m tired of all of you idiots saying sans didn’t die. He did.

    • @smarty1natsknees
      @smarty1natsknees 6 лет назад +26

      It's just a theory. Dont get mad over a theory.

    • @PKPrometheus
      @PKPrometheus 6 лет назад +38

      Natalie Leigh
      Actually, Sans isn't really ever seen doing anything other than a smile, the only indicator for other Emotion in his skull is his his eye glowing, and having no eyes at all. How could it be safe to say he's smiling because he's hiding ketchup? No other character moves their mouth when they talk in battle, but it's not like they have a condiment with them.

  • @stephenskinner7207
    @stephenskinner7207 6 лет назад +15

    I'd actually love to see a Genocide hard mode where everyone is going at you 100%. We've seen some awesome fan-made boss fights built around this concept; my personal favorites are Asgore fighting with Flowey on his shoulder and the Alphys Takes Action fight.

    • @Acuarea
      @Acuarea Год назад +3

      That's what Undertale: The final run is for, it's an alternate timeline where flower warns the entire underground, and most of the underground believes flower, still, a regular genocide in the Ruins, but then it changes in the rest, Papyrus uses his best attack first, and he dies after that, also, don't think you have the same LVL, you will have a maximum of LVL 13/20 since a huge part of Snowdyn and Hot lands were evacuated

  • @Sheriruth
    @Sheriruth 6 лет назад +32

    I Want To Say A Theory (sorry for the bad english): Get Dunked on, by sans is a type of remember the player the good times of jokes and how sans is trying to return to thats days, like he says - if you are my friend you wouldn't comeback, is not for comeback sparing him (just because he is the only alive) but he is saying that after the joke the player would remember the good times and forget to return doing that no mercy route

    • @Sheriruth
      @Sheriruth 6 лет назад

      Gabriele Pugliese I Was That Bad?

    • @Sheriruth
      @Sheriruth 6 лет назад

      I'm From Brazil

    • @Sheriruth
      @Sheriruth 6 лет назад

      Mean Matthew Undertale TY Man

    • @sushi7043
      @sushi7043 6 лет назад

      Seems legit

    • @obstiquer3909
      @obstiquer3909 6 лет назад

      Vulpixels I guess you could say there's a BRAZILian theory's. :D

  • @zandbergx9747
    @zandbergx9747 4 года назад +11

    I think there's something kinda cool in the fact that your final LV(Level of Violence) is 20. The same as your health throughout a pacifist run

  • @darkycrafting7365
    @darkycrafting7365 6 лет назад +15

    "You're going to kill me? That's not kind of you"
    *And you forgot about you, Flowey =)*

  • @Zechromium
    @Zechromium 6 лет назад +22

    Here's a video idea theorize what would the story be if the player would be named frisk and "hard mode" was finished.

    • @Cyclamenz
      @Cyclamenz 6 лет назад

      It would still be YOU who did it all. Chara may have enabled the carnage, but the blame rests sole on YOU because YOU chose to fight

    • @Zechromium
      @Zechromium 6 лет назад +3

      I'm not talking about just the genocide but all routes included.

    • @idk-gl6yl
      @idk-gl6yl 5 лет назад +1

      oh wow theres hard mode if uou name the human frisk

    • @irongolem1476
      @irongolem1476 4 года назад

      @@Cyclamenz CHARActer?

  • @Thinker2112
    @Thinker2112 6 лет назад +8

    I don't think absorbing six human souls necessarily warps you the way that it warped Flowey. I think Flowey chose a terrifying form on purpose. Asgore might have chosen to keep looking like himself or just to look slightly more intimidating.

  • @AnonimanPiotr
    @AnonimanPiotr 6 лет назад +121

    Why dind't Asgore absorbed souls which he was told to when Undyne died?

  • @maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337
    @maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 4 года назад +13

    I'm actually thinking of something rather interesting, whenever we Reset, the Monsters in the Underground retain fragmented memories of our previous experiences with them, with Flowey and Sans remembering everything. I'm thinking that after enough Genocide Routes, any Monster could glance at Frisk, and immediately recognize them as a threat, remembering all the fragmented memories of the moments that they died. Who knows, it might even come to a point where Papyrus finally comes to terms with the fact that we can't be reasoned with, and truely gives it his all in our encounter with him. Mabey instead of the boring Friendliness Petal fight that we begin our journey in the Underground with, or Flowey not being there at all, Flowey could take advantage of the fact that our only weapon is a stick and give it his all by shooting vines at us from every angle, mabey even doing a 2 on 1 team up with Flowey and Toriel battling together, because Flowey could warn Toriel about us, and Frisk's name would make her remember all her terrible deaths, giving us a deadly battle of a creature without a soul or morality combined with the power of his vengeful mother who was once the Queen of the Underground. There are so many possible outcomes, and unfortunately, new outcomes is exactly what Frisk, what we, would want

    • @filelost9194
      @filelost9194 4 года назад +4

      I was thinking the exact same thing about papyrus, but going off the theory that he does remember everything but refuses to give up on you, like always. I'm pretty sure after 1000 or so resets he wouldn't go disbelief or revenge, but something completely different. Something more powerful than Undertake DDD.

    • @sueblue2464
      @sueblue2464 Год назад +2

      Sans doesn't remember the resets only flowey does

  • @KoishGD
    @KoishGD 6 лет назад +83

    Undertale hates you for doing the genocide route. That's why Toby Fox has to make a creepy ending to make you freak out

    • @K1ttyGam3r
      @K1ttyGam3r 6 лет назад +8

      Sans The Skeleton Yeah, I don't like the Genocide route. I never did it. I tried, but I didn't even kill a froggit. So I'm sticking with Pacifist.
      Edit: I’m trying to get through a Genocide route and I’m stuck on Sans

    • @costcoRBLX
      @costcoRBLX 5 лет назад

      Kind of?

    • @idk-gl6yl
      @idk-gl6yl 5 лет назад +3

      play genocide then play pacifist when you go to the surface and say i have other places to go its actually creepy

    • @gokublackmasteredultrainst7663
      @gokublackmasteredultrainst7663 4 года назад +4

      I did genocide but quit the game when asriel says “Please don’t kill me.” Then I reseted.Its a good trick to save your files.

    • @hurt4322
      @hurt4322 4 года назад +2

      @@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663 **they* will still remember

  • @KingMusicalMel
    @KingMusicalMel 6 лет назад +314

    The true ending is that they arrive in my realm where I challenge them to never ending, vicious and terrible combat! -.. On Smash Bros..? I'm just not that evil, I'm sorry?
    You can follow me now on Twitter @KingMusicalMel !

    • @observationdialectic8896
      @observationdialectic8896 6 лет назад +1

      King Mel egg

    • @Paddy11037
      @Paddy11037 6 лет назад +8

      Hah! I bet you'd never be able to beat my Ness/Kirby!
      Speaking of which, what character do you play?

    • @douglewis7946
      @douglewis7946 6 лет назад

      King Mel *pap* I forgiv

    • @DrJay-vd9tf
      @DrJay-vd9tf 6 лет назад +1

      As long as your don't pick Final Destination, your good.

    • @retrobrickreviews687
      @retrobrickreviews687 6 лет назад +5

      Mince_Jackson/ DarkGamer Why then are you on an Undertale video posted by an Undertale channel with over 130,000 subs?

  • @moltentitanuim6138
    @moltentitanuim6138 6 лет назад +10

    2 theory’s
    •-----•
    1) what would happen if all monsters could destroy the FIGHT button. Mostly for the bosses this would be unique and pacifist would be complete: Also if sans could destroy the fight button you Can WILL HAVE A BAD TIME
    2) What if there where a 4th route or MORE. This would be cool with different ending
    If underlab reads this please reply at least

    • @smg1ishere61
      @smg1ishere61 4 года назад +1

      Well, if all monsters could destroy the fight button, and I can btw, then genocide wouldn't be an ending, so there wouldn't be 4 endings

  • @buttersmoothest
    @buttersmoothest 5 лет назад +12

    Maybe sans keeps a ketchup packet in his mouth, and he's always grinning to hide it. So when you strike him, he might just bite the pack, and BOOM.
    *fake blood.*

  • @BeanieBabyXx
    @BeanieBabyXx 4 года назад +11

    I can imagine Asgore going to the human souls and apologising for his actions before asking them for help.

  • @HermitMerchant
    @HermitMerchant 4 года назад +22

    What if Sans and Asgore fought you together.

  • @nobodyspecial4376
    @nobodyspecial4376 6 лет назад +34

    Me has an idea
    You remember the amalgamate, MemoryHead? He can’t die, so WHAT IF THEY TRAINED HIM SO HE CAN DESTROY FRISK/CHARA MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

    • @teampayday8065
      @teampayday8065 6 лет назад +8

      Yet everyone would probably be scared of him, because they would see their worst fears, as MemoryHead makes your worst fears seem real. Besides, hes a amalgamate, so if he WERE able to deal some damage, he would probably be just like the other amalgamates.

    • @sfisher923
      @sfisher923 6 лет назад +2

      PapyrusAlmighty or Mettaton staying in his box form

    • @Kaleii08
      @Kaleii08 5 лет назад +1

      @@sfisher923
      Too late. *=)*

    • @bingletoncoochiesmithmach2611
      @bingletoncoochiesmithmach2611 5 лет назад +4

      Memory head is confused, and doesn’t have a real mind, it’s just a collection of monsters put together. I think alphys wouldn’t want unleash all of her worst secrets into the world, it would probably end up trying to kill the monsters aswell. And remember, the only reason alphys is shy is because the amalgamations, she would probably think it would go wrong.

    • @gdeneagames6565
      @gdeneagames6565 4 года назад +1

      Not just memoryhead. Remember before you turn on the power on the true lab that you are attacked by 4 other amalgamates? Probably we havent encountered them. Alphys might release all algams to hunt for frisk/chara. They are indestructable so its a win

  • @minecrash101
    @minecrash101 4 года назад +8

    I just realized
    If flowey killed asgore at the end of the asgore fight, does that mean asriel killed his dad?

    • @nahumzebulun9013
      @nahumzebulun9013 4 года назад +3

      Have you played the game? Flowey has done the genocide route thousands of times to get every possible ending. Ofc he killed his family and friends.

  • @shayray8764
    @shayray8764 6 лет назад +5

    The reality of the genocide route is that it's supposed to leave you feeling dissatisfied. You're not supposed to be satisfied with that ending. You're supposed to be satisfied with the true pacifist ending. That's why it has such a big, grand credits roll that features the happy lives of everyone living on the surface in peace and contentment. The genocide ending really is supposed to leave you feeling terrible about it - the effect being that it's the ending that you do not actually want.

  • @bengreenaway4000
    @bengreenaway4000 6 лет назад +26

    Can you do a theory on why papyrus has a dog shrine in his sink 😂

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 6 лет назад +1

      Because that dog's a troll.

    • @randomcatdude
      @randomcatdude 6 лет назад +1

      Because *dog.*

    • @costcoRBLX
      @costcoRBLX 5 лет назад

      Well it's cuz Toby dogs mad (not angry,crazy)

    • @poissonmulti-taches2742
      @poissonmulti-taches2742 4 года назад

      Angery

    • @dragonboi6744
      @dragonboi6744 4 года назад

      Why wouldn’t he
      Sans has many powers
      How do you know he can’t fit a whole shrine in his sink

  • @lun4rt0ast69
    @lun4rt0ast69 5 лет назад +5

    Sans “blood” is just ketchup because none of the other monsters bleed

  • @thecextreem4865
    @thecextreem4865 6 лет назад +15

    Sans with his powers to remember timelines could get Toriel to get out the ruins and all the monsters in the ruins before the child came and then told everyone to evacuate them then when the human falls down they'd have no one to kill so staying lvl 1 then they could all attack them and win or they could hide like cowards

    • @skilllessguy7219
      @skilllessguy7219 6 лет назад +4

      I don't think Sans remember timelines,he's just really clever
      he even makes a mistake with his "hmm that expression" dialogue
      (i think it was ten ? He says something like "that's the expression of someone who died nine times. No wait,that's defenetively ten !")

    • @firecreeper2249
      @firecreeper2249 6 лет назад

      Skillless Guy i think he remember because when he is a lost soul we can remember him "jugment" but in true pacifist he never judge we

    • @laplongejunior
      @laplongejunior 6 лет назад

      +fire creeper
      Many monsters can remember some parts of other timelines.
      For example, Toriel makes a guess for the pie, but rapidly dismiss it because there's no chance it could be right... It's a side-effect of SAVE, not Sans's ability*.
      The whole "Lost Souls" sequence consist of using this effect even after Asriel started messing up with the timeline with Goner Blaster.
      If you want to be poetic, you could say that even the most powerful being in the universe can't totally erase friendships ;)
      *I couldn't find a proof, but some fans argued that Sans manage to have one "déja vu" memory even after a True Reset... never managed to find WHAT event it was, so I assume they confused with his mentalist-like abilities.

    • @Turbulation1
      @Turbulation1 6 лет назад +1

      There is a undertale fan game called Dusttale and it’s where sans goes Genocide to get exp for himself to make himself stronger. He kills all the monsters just for exp.

    • @BeingOfEvil0
      @BeingOfEvil0 3 года назад

      Fun fact: sans doesn't remember genocide route

  • @marianahall265
    @marianahall265 6 лет назад +13

    I know I'm not a Patreon, so I probably won't get noticed with this idea, but could you make a discussion/theory video about the possible integration of other video game elements into the game's lore?
    We all know that saving and resetting are normally just game mechanics, but in Undertale, they're very much a part of the game's lore. The player/Frisk is actually resetting time in the game's world.
    So what about other video game elements like the battle system or the text boxes the characters speak in?
    For example, how is Asgore able to smash the MERCY option (or Omega Flowey just destroying the battle screen completely), or how are Mettaton's words able to be bombs if they are simply game features? (Of course, these examples could just be 4th wall breaks, but what if they're not?)
    I don't recall any specific information in the game saying that any of the other elements are in the lore like SAVING is, but maybe there are.
    Considering the fandom, there probably is already a headcanon/AU that does something with this, but I'm just not bothered to look it up.

  • @missconstruct6968
    @missconstruct6968 6 лет назад +3

    If we fought Omega Flowey on Genocide I feel as though he'd kill us but bring us back, each time begging us to stop what we are doing. And we would be stuck in a loop, either having to actually spare Flowey, a last chance to go back, or betray kill him

  • @theoutlaw2441
    @theoutlaw2441 2 года назад +2

    You know the way you explained genocide hard mode, it sounds like a series called undertale Distorted, Distinctive Destiny (DDD). It’s a story made by a talented animator named theking35. It is in short if the player is so determined in undertale that they played the genocide mode 1000 times and the game gets distorted and messed up the game and every character finally rises up and uses there full power to take you down. It’s incredible, and I seriously recommend you watch it you’ll be shocked, entertained, and even emotional if you really care about your favorite characters in undertale. And he even makes new theme songs, new fights all together, new costumes and even a new character. If your interested search undertale DDD and it should come up right away.

  • @technicallygood4620
    @technicallygood4620 6 лет назад +9

    I just realized that in the Genocide Run, Flowey is a hero. Flowey destroys Asgore's soul. Flowey potentially saves humanity from a genocidal maniac with the power to reset.

    • @andreaslefteri3661
      @andreaslefteri3661 2 года назад +1

      *Cough* Toriel's soul *Cough*

    • @technicallygood4620
      @technicallygood4620 2 года назад +1

      @@andreaslefteri3661 Is shattered and never collected

    • @andreaslefteri3661
      @andreaslefteri3661 2 года назад +1

      @@technicallygood4620 ik, but just pointing out toriel was a boss monster as well, her soul was just not absorbed before shattering

  • @notsosorry5135
    @notsosorry5135 3 года назад +3

    When I get good at coding I’m going to make a fan game of this after Flowey resets the timeline with His DT and The Souls

  • @josie9008
    @josie9008 6 лет назад +5

    7:25 Uhh, sorry to nitpick on your idea,
    but when the death sound plays, you go to level 20. and your health is raised to 99, instead of 92. Unless your gonna pull a Glitchtale.

    • @nightmareiron4414
      @nightmareiron4414 Год назад +1

      The counter for actual kills doesn't go up in normal undertale. He gives you another point of LOVE, but he does not add your to kill counter, so it could be the case

  • @legogodzilla7
    @legogodzilla7 6 лет назад +2

    Now that you mention the genocide hard mode I totally want it. (Begins to barrage Toby with tweets to finish hard mode)

  • @think_of_a_storyboard3635
    @think_of_a_storyboard3635 5 лет назад +3

    This should be what happens if you kill everyone in the ruins in hard mode (excluding toriel), proving you're going on a genocide route, so all the boss monsters attack you with all they have

  • @midnightstorm6576
    @midnightstorm6576 6 лет назад +10

    You know, there always been something that bugged me about the Sans Fight. Who threw the second atack at him? The attack we throw when we fight is dodged, so who threw the second one. Most would say Chara, but, what if there never even was a second attack? It would hardly be the most meta thing he did during that fight. Attack the option to attack and trying to keep us from having a turn? Why would a fake knife attack be any different.

    • @teampayday8065
      @teampayday8065 6 лет назад

      Thats super true! I shoulda included that in my rant about Sans.

    • @Missingno_Miner
      @Missingno_Miner 4 года назад +3

      I think the idea is frisk struck again while sans was attacking.
      We see how seriously he takes the fight. Hes not alive. He didnt play a joke on us. If he did, he would have helped asgore fight.

  • @AmyraCarter
    @AmyraCarter 2 года назад +2

    Fanfiction That Would Be Lore Friendly:
    Via a super-secret trainer, the player can pseudo-level their stats but never actually knock down anyone, and acquire certain special equipment (a defensive bracer) that enables the ability to block damage at a percentage based on player LV. On a Genocide route, this trainer is not present, but the equipment can be taken (which is both the bracer and a shortsword), and the equipment is capable of blocking damage at a one hundred percent efficiency. This, along with some choices made that show internal conflict, will ultimately allow one to spare Sans, and tackle the one true challenge, putting Chara's soul to rest, via a difficult battle that involves being both merciless and merciful, knowing when to attack, when to block, and when to act kindly, slowly dropping the player LV back down to 1 before the final challenge begins, as Chara will break the blocking equipment and the player will be left defenseless. Manage to spare Chara and put their anger to rest, Sans will intervene, and thus begins the #ResolutionPath and lay the groundwork for the #TrueResolutionPath.
    (I wrote it all out too)
    It was too long, LOL

  • @deadaccount7303
    @deadaccount7303 6 лет назад +28

    The blood isn't ketchup
    God underlab, i thought an adult would at least know WHATS INSIDE BONES.

    • @matteo9617
      @matteo9617 6 лет назад +17

      Humie Sylveon tobyfox said that it is ketchup.
      a bone wouldn't bleed that much and papyrus, that is like him, don't bleed when you decapitate him in genocyde
      so that red stuff is ketchup.

    • @greyscaless_
      @greyscaless_ 6 лет назад +4

      MasterM 1214 dude I think he was using sarcasm

    • @deadaccount7303
      @deadaccount7303 6 лет назад

      MAsterM 1214 Spell correctly, then we'll talk.

    • @jameschan8152
      @jameschan8152 6 лет назад +11

      Humie Sylveon if Toby says it's ketchup, then it's ketchup.

    • @mindyplessinger7136
      @mindyplessinger7136 6 лет назад +1

      MasterM 1214 when?

  • @revampedharpy09
    @revampedharpy09 4 года назад +4

    6:54 I feel like an interesting concept might be if there's disagreement between the souls, some deeming frisk the bigger threat, and choosing to help asgore/flowey, and others being still too angry at asgore and monsters to help them, and betraying them like they did omega flowey.

  • @senaahasan5182
    @senaahasan5182 4 года назад +5

    The genocide route could've ended like:
    •Asgore accidentally killing Flowey then the battle between you and Asgore continuing
    •Same as first but Asgore purposely kills Flowey
    •Same as first but Asgore uses the souls instead of the battle continuing
    •Sans interrupts the battle between Asgore and is like "I can deal with this"
    •Sans interrupts the battle between Asgore,kills asgore,takes the souls
    •Sans interrupts the battle between Asgore and then Sans and Asgore both fight you at once
    •Flowey Kills Asgore,Sans comes back and kills Flowey
    •Asgore uses the souls to revive everyone if possible
    •Sans uses the souls to revive everyone if possible (I won't do Flowey uses the souls to revive everyone since it's not likely)
    •Sans could've killed Asgore and took the souls before the fight with you and him,so you would've had to fight Omega Sans instead of normal Sans and not fight Asgore.

  • @kibedoapocalips7313
    @kibedoapocalips7313 6 лет назад +1

    wow, i did not tought you still made vids, good to know you're still up, and i saw a pretty neat unitale battle of asgore and flowey against the no mercy human, the story behind was pretty much whatever, but the battle was surelly neat

  • @Void_of_Heart1
    @Void_of_Heart1 Год назад +3

    Bones produce red blood cells via red bone marrow, maybe that's why Sans bleeds. Although it is said that monsters don't have much physical matter. So really it could be either way.

  • @voop9628
    @voop9628 5 лет назад +7

    Adding on to how completing the Genocide path "corrupts" the game, when you 'kill' Sans, he says "don't say i didn't warn you" He could have been referencing Chara, or referencing the fact that after beating the Genocide path, you are unable to complete a True Pacifist ending (unless you do some file editing), and you would instead get a Soulless Pacifist ending, with (spoilers), Chara looking at you, then to make a slow and low pitched Photoshop Flowey (yes, it's Photoshop Flowey, not Omega flowey) laugh, and then a picture of Frisk's friends with red scribbles on their head, and with Chara's body instead of Frisk's, and then creepy music that is slowed down in the background. Since Sans can have memories of different timelines, he might be able to remember seeing Chara if he didn't actually die and he would have played a joke on you when you 'kill' him. If I am wrong about something, please tell me/correct it by replying.
    jeez that was quite the word wall

    • @cookieapple994
      @cookieapple994 2 года назад

      Sans did die chara at the end destroyed every time line

  • @RasaiDeaar
    @RasaiDeaar 3 года назад +4

    5:38 - 6:00
    Lowkey, I'd be interested in seeing an Undertale AU like you just described. A somewhat-story-justified hard-mode for Undertale. Imagine trying to pacifist-run something like that.

  • @captain_hammer
    @captain_hammer 6 лет назад +7

    7:50 - did you just call the sans fight... EASY?!?!?!?

    • @seifgaming2015
      @seifgaming2015 6 лет назад

      The Underhammer it's auctly pretty easy only his last attack do

    • @captain_hammer
      @captain_hammer 6 лет назад +3

      Seif Gaming/Herobrine *megalovania intensifies*

    • @seifgaming2015
      @seifgaming2015 6 лет назад

      BOI I BEAT EM TODAY AGAIN

  • @Niltenstein
    @Niltenstein 4 года назад +3

    But you become the Love,when you kill sans

    • @longcat2992
      @longcat2992 4 года назад +4

      @@gale3509 *he is speaking the language of the gods*

  • @thej-ster8826
    @thej-ster8826 4 года назад +8

    What if... Flowey revealed he was Asriel to asgore and they worked together after your fight with sans. Like father like son. Both at full power, maybe flowey absorbed the souls, with asgore they may win

    • @ivandreuxzuev9473
      @ivandreuxzuev9473 9 месяцев назад

      Is Flowey absorbed the souls, had the determination, and potentially could fuse with his father, wouldn't he just become Asriel?

    • @thej-ster8826
      @thej-ster8826 9 месяцев назад

      @@ivandreuxzuev9473 I thought that required every soul in the underground?

    • @ivandreuxzuev9473
      @ivandreuxzuev9473 9 месяцев назад

      @@thej-ster8826 Well. Everyone in the underground is dead at that point. Thing is, I'm pretty sure that the souls of Asgore and Toriel are so much stronger than any other monster ones, that just with one of them it's pretty sure the power that can be reached by absorbing one of them is enormous. At the end, in genocide, Flowey destroys Asgore's soul for you just to not take it, when you could have collected the souls of every monster you've killed so far, which is the whole underground, so I'd say that kinda implies that asgore's soul alone is as or more powerful than the rest of souls combined.
      Actually, once again, in neutral Flowey will kill Asgore, and will turn into Omega Flowey, in such state, he could definitely just kill everyone and absorbe their souls, but he doesn't convert into Asriel. By the opposite, in pacifist, where asgore does not die, he doesn't have such problem and turns into Asriel.
      Just a theory, but I feel that even if asgore just absorbed the 6 souls, he would have probably turner into something similar to Asriel, if we also add a determined Flowey to that mix, it's pretty much served.

  • @Solarblossom2238
    @Solarblossom2238 6 лет назад +3

    Here's a bit of info:
    *Asgore thought you were a monster since you were covered in so much dust, he locks himself in his castle for most of the time.*
    This is a few bits of info for now.

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 Год назад

    3:45
    One thing to note for the Omega Flowey boss though:
    The higher your LV when you fight him, the lower your HP is during this boss instead of it being higher

  • @shadedpixture4954
    @shadedpixture4954 6 лет назад +1

    Fighting Sans and Papyrus at the same time would make a battle that is impossible to beat; Sans would constantly summon bones in front of Papyrus to protect him, and Papyrus would keep Sans awake

  • @mikeloeven
    @mikeloeven 6 лет назад +3

    After completing a genocide path and awakening Chara you're given a chance to save your soul but in order to do this you need to save and restore Chara's humanity. When you think about it you only find out about Chara after completing the true pacifist play-through. Is it possible that the player took the genocide path intentionally simply because it was the only to awaken the Chara's spirit and the player did this entirely with the intent of saving Chara? Once redeemed Chara will reveal the secret to saving Asriel. Thus True pacifist was not the true ending but rather part of a longer journey to save those you couldn't the first two times around.

    • @teampayday8065
      @teampayday8065 6 лет назад +1

      Such as Asriel, but then what about the Man who Speaks in Hands himself, Gaster? Would Chara also give you a piece of information? Or would the G followers tell you how after you redeem Chara?

  • @rcventz3945
    @rcventz3945 4 года назад +3

    Except the Human Souls ARENT gonna support a murderer, they’d help flowey, and due to your lv, you’d do a do a hella lot of damage, considering you do about a million damage against Sans and Asgore 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Cptn.Viridian
    @Cptn.Viridian 2 года назад +2

    I think it would be interesting to see Asgore absorb the souls. While you made some solid points, I think the souls could be convinced of the danger of Chara. Here is my personal thought on how it could work:
    Whilst you are fighting Undyne, Alphys finally sees who you are and what you are capable of. While she runs to evacuate the remaining monsters, she is overcome by emotion, and instead orders mettaton to evacuate them. While she already called Asgore, or tried to, she simply cannot standby, as she saw Undyne get cut down. She rushed to New Home, and warns Asgore of the true nature of the human, and the horrors they have committed. Something clicks in Asgore. While he doesn't want to, or even believe he can convince or control the souls to aid him, he realizes that he owes it to his people to try. As Chara charges through Hotland and The Core, Asgore pleads with the souls to aid him. He admits his failures, his grief, his sorrow which have all haunted him. But now, a new emotion courses through him, one he only felt long ago. Passion. The same spark that had caused him to kill the humans now empowered him to beg for their help. Through her cameras and smart phone, Alphys has shown not only the King, but the souls as well, the true monster among them.
    Past the core, the Human continues their rampage, flowey encounters them as they overlook the abandoned capital. Flowey is overcome by the same true fear as in the normal genocide ending. He runs to the Throne room, but is genuinely surprised to see that it is empty.
    Before long however, a hulking figure emerges from the shadows. Asgore, with the souls in tow, is stuck and surprised by Flowey. Flowey's cries only convince the souls more of who they should fight with.
    Meanwhile, Sans tries, and fails, to stop the human from reaching the throne room. However, before they are finished fighting, Asgore steps into the room. He has now absorbed the Human Souls, willing to help him dispell this horrible creature. But he is not alone. On his shoulder lies a curious flower, who while weaker than his omega form, can tap into Asgore's new power to aid in this climactic battle. Alphys is also their, as Mettaton busts through the glass, having completed evacuations, and hoping help the convinced King. And of course, Sans, spared from his near death by Asgore's timely appearance, also gets beside the King to lend a helping hand to defeat the human.
    While the human may be a LV 19 killing machine, trying to fight 5 of the most powerful monsters in the underground, in addition to the aid of 6 human souls, might truly be impossible, even for someone with infinite tries.
    Alphy's and Mettaton's intellect and weaponry, Sans's and Flowey's reality bending tricks, and Asgore, a King finally determined to do the right thing, with the aid of those he wronged and killed stand together to defeat their foe.
    After the human is truly defeated, Flowey realizes something, and borrowing the power of Asgore, transforms into Asriel again, if but for a moment. He says goodbye to his father, something he never got to do, before retreating to the ruins where he can hopefully wither away peacefully. Asgore, with a seventh and final human soul, asks of them (mostly) nicely to lend him their power to set (most) of them free. Leading his people out of the underground, he soon leaves the task of ruling his people on Sans, Alphys, and Mettaton until his return. After a peaceful moment looking at the sunset, Asgore thanks the 6 human souls for their help, as he tries to seek out their old homes and lives, so that he may finally lay them to rest.

  • @flamingoodness4923
    @flamingoodness4923 6 лет назад +1

    I really wish Toby fox would make an undertale+ or something just so we could get more genocide battles and a full on hard mode. Undertale is a perfection that comes once in a blue moon and it sucks to think of the fact that we’re probably never getting a game with mechanics like undertale again.

  • @juicegirl2696
    @juicegirl2696 6 лет назад +7

    Also when you "level up", I think that's just your soul turning into chara's, so chara's stats were loaded instead of yours

  • @jigalooo2331
    @jigalooo2331 4 года назад +3

    Wait I just realized something sleeping increases your hp over the limit right?So since sans sleeps all the time wouldn’t he have a lot more hp and since ya know he messes with the game and stuff he could make it seem you killed him

  • @catching.rainbows
    @catching.rainbows 4 года назад +1

    It would be extremely harder to fight flowery then you would expect because I noticed that the more health you have before fighting omega flower the more damage/the faster your health goes down

  • @tim9886
    @tim9886 6 лет назад +1

    I think in a alternate version you would face Gaster at the barrier with using all six of the human soul to keep him there. Or when you are at the barrier you are Chara and you face Frisk that knows how to used most of the monster magic but used Sam magic the most.

  • @werewolf_witch5446
    @werewolf_witch5446 6 лет назад +4

    Me: Watching the vid and being a huge introvert
    Everyone else: GO OUTSIDE!
    Me: Ignores them and continues to be no help to society XD

  • @Anon893
    @Anon893 6 лет назад +2

    GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS

  • @pleaseenterausername4796
    @pleaseenterausername4796 5 лет назад +1

    When you kill sans your lvl goes up (level of violence) but it doesn't say you gain any Xp (execution points) so you probably didn't "execute" sans but you did become more "violent"

  • @macaronnie8406
    @macaronnie8406 6 лет назад +1

    7:20-8:21 I really like that idea.
    It means that Inverted Fate, THE VERY BEST AU OF ALL TIME, won't be destroyed!

  • @redpenguin5602
    @redpenguin5602 5 лет назад +3

    Frisk would still defeat Flowey just because determination is still stronger than all the other souls combined

  • @dustyk01
    @dustyk01 6 лет назад +6

    COOL VIDEO UNDERLAB

  • @cringecande_9352
    @cringecande_9352 Год назад

    Omg i randomly got this video in my recommended and at 1st i thought nothing of it but after the flowey bit i realized... that intro hit like a truck of nostalgia i remember watching the shit out of ur videos!!

  • @theheirofparadoxspace7309
    @theheirofparadoxspace7309 6 лет назад +1

    This is what I thought when I saw the thumbnail: when the kid you bully gets his dad involved and his dad is a weightlifter

  • @CrespenSLumen
    @CrespenSLumen 6 лет назад +3

    3:51 abut his attack is 19 his hp 6000 and defense is 600 those are better stats than the human he would also have more determination because of having 6 human souls compared to 1 (or maybe 2) so frisks (or chara) determination would help him either

  • @timsyberfeldt4821
    @timsyberfeldt4821 6 лет назад +36

    You dont only fight omega flowey in neutral you also fight him in pacefist

    • @DDjivan
      @DDjivan 6 лет назад

      Tru

    • @kathleenthe7th
      @kathleenthe7th 6 лет назад

      Yep.

    • @JxstPain
      @JxstPain 6 лет назад +12

      No, you do in the neutral BEFORE you load a save to complete the true pacisfist run

    • @thebiolibrary5572
      @thebiolibrary5572 6 лет назад +6

      Tim 42 nooooo, pacifist is unlocked after Neutral.

    • @errorsans2202
      @errorsans2202 6 лет назад +5

      Actually, in the true pacifist route you fight ASRIEL. You save everyone and all of the monsters can go to the surface. If you return to where you first fell into the underground, you will find asriel. Asriel will talk to you for a good amount of time and he refused to leave the underground because "someone has to watch over the golden flowers".
      In the neutral route you fight Omega flowey. If you defeat Omega flowey you can either spare him or kill him. You only enter the neutral route if you kill a few monsters or if you gain anything over 1 LV. After all, in this world... It's KILL OR BE KILLED!
      In the genocide route you fight sans he will judge you for your every action, every time you killed a monster, every time you gain LV, he knows.
      He won't kill you unless you kill EVERYONE he has to keep his promise to Toriel no matter how much it hurts him. But, if there is no one left in the underground what's the point of keeping a promise that will only get you killed. After you defeat sans, you only have 2 options, ERASE or DO NOT. It's your choice. You will die either way, but really Frisk and Chara were never in control. But then again, neither are YOU.
      I hope this was helpful, please don't tell at me because I don't know how to spell or what I said doesn't make sense. I tried, okay. I don't have perfect spelling and I just had down what I know so far about the different routes in undertale. I have not played the game yet. Welp, have a good day everyone

  • @erischama1922
    @erischama1922 6 лет назад +1

    I'm thinking that maybe Sans has successfully been injected determination as sort of a final attempt to stop the genocidal Frisk, and therefore the “blood” we see might be the injected determination leaking out of him.

  • @jandreplayz9833
    @jandreplayz9833 6 лет назад +2

    I would say the "The new Final boss" would be Asgore, he realized that this is more than a war against Monster and Humans, it's a war with Monsters vs *Monster* (not chara, *US* as the players) He would absorb the 6 human souls and yours to become a True *God* and the FInal-Final Boss, Toriel and flowey would try to assist. And when you think you won, He draws the power of determination and resets the timeline and force breaks your attack option.
    Basically Sans with Undyne's Armor and Alphys's technology and The hope of all the monsters that died, and removing the option to fight after the fight.

  • @purplecat2092
    @purplecat2092 6 лет назад +4

    Well if chara never existed frisk could've killed the people of their own free will 🙀🙀🙀

    • @Cyclamenz
      @Cyclamenz 6 лет назад +2

      I'm pleased to find another who sees this truth. It was YOU who chose to fight, not Chara.

    • @joshuas9
      @joshuas9 6 лет назад

      But isn't that the point of the no mercy route that it's you you'd doing all these terrible things but through sin Chara at the end to make it seem like it's not your fault, watch treesicle video on it he explains it a lot better then me

  • @sallwhy
    @sallwhy 6 лет назад +6

    26th comment XD

  • @ChuckySkullHead
    @ChuckySkullHead 6 лет назад +1

    There IS a way to get to Omega Flowey as a LV 20 Human, but the only way to do it is to hack. Even with the 20 LVs by your side, you still can only do 1 damage to Omega Flowey every time you attack. Although it is possible that Toby Fox didn't want you to have fun, and just set your stats to a set amount when you fight Omega Flowey, regardless of your LV.

  • @logicalchicken7132
    @logicalchicken7132 4 года назад +1

    I don't think LOVE affects health totals in Omega Flowey battle because of how strong the souls are, it actually seems like Flowey doesn't entirely want to kill the human as when we are low on health, he deals less damage, probably for the better as otherwise we would lose in like 3 hits, or maybe it's the souls lessening his power before we even free them.

  • @samviolago9958
    @samviolago9958 3 года назад +1

    We'll ya see, the thing is that we do actually kill Sans, because when the death sound came, our LV increased from 19 to 20
    Asgore was also told by Alphys to absorb the 6 human souls when Undyne died
    And even Asriel with the power of 7 human souls, he didn't reset because he CANT, he might have 7 human souls but he is still isn't determined enough to control time, and thinking that Flowey with only 6 human souls could control time is technically impossible, not unless they absorb Frisk/Chara's soul, which could technically just refuse to die or SAVE due to extremely powerful sadistic DETERMINATION

  • @MomokoHyperBlossom
    @MomokoHyperBlossom 6 лет назад +1

    I've never been so happy to hear a theorist say Sans's "blood" is just ketchup. I've been saying that to others for WAY too long, and my own friends often say things like, "Oh, Sans went through something Papyrus didn't." "Sans and Papyrus are probably not brothers and Sans was tortured by Gaster." "Skeletons come from humans, whenever they die, maybe Sans is bleeding because of that, or he still has his organs" or "Sans mast be different from other monsters."
    But, Papyrus and Sans both state they are brothers, and if they weren't I'm sure one of them would give a HINT of that. Sans and Papyrus have most likely been together for years, so if Gaster DID do something, they both would've been affected. Sans's, at the most, has done something that lets him know a little more than Papyrus, I mean we know he's lazy, but he's no idiot couch potato. He's lazy, but he makes puns, can see other timelines, teleports, is probably the hardest monster you fight in the Underground, has a secret tiny lab with a strange machine, and proves time and time again he's smarter than we think and knows people we, as the player, have never seen.
    Clearly he IS something more, but monsters just DON'T bleed, they turn to dust when they die. For Sans to bleed when you kill him, he'd have to be human, and I'm pretty sure he's not. And if one made the comment that Skeletons are closer links to human, then Papyrus would've been bleeding too. Also, if Sans had his organs, we'd know, after all, doesn't he walk around with a white shirt? If he had organs and blood veins, I'm sure we'd know..
    It makes absolutely NO sense for Sans to bleed AT ALL, no matter the reason. He's a prankster, and we know that battles can be adjusted or moved around, given in our fight with Sans, we move the box to be able to hit him while in the fight box, during his turn. Who's to say Sans even does 1HP? He might, yeah. But if you can cheat by fighting when it's not your turn, then who's to say you can't lie about your HP, Defense, or Attack? Sans is a joker, it's not too hard to see his altering his information to seem weaker for a fight against a mass murderer. And that's not even bringing in the 'blood', which everyone often brushes off or claim it's real. If everyone believes Sans loves ketchup as much as they think, then it makes PERFECT sense why he'd "bleed." He'd probably store a bunch of ketchup packets in his shirt, under his ribs. Not only because he likes it, but because it's added padding and could protect him from a deadly blow, like a small murderous child that's got a bunch of LV and EXP.
    I mean, if you think logically, it only makes sense. He's lazy, but not an idiot, so it wouldn't be surprising to see him do this.

  • @disrandomyoutuber8473
    @disrandomyoutuber8473 6 лет назад +1

    A possibility includes asgore not transforming, and therefore not being ashamed of his looks. And flowey fighting by his side.

  • @carnage5244
    @carnage5244 4 года назад +2

    Sure it’s probably just ketchup and maybe he could’ve re-made the death sound, but you still get EXP and your LOVE increases. Some could argue he GAVE that to you somehow without dying, yet I don’t think he would WILLINGLY give you more EXP.

  • @cubebot3351
    @cubebot3351 4 года назад +2

    FLOWERY IS EVOLVING INTO A WEED!

  • @Linkin-2603
    @Linkin-2603 2 года назад +1

    Honestly, my main complaint about the Genocide route is all the missed boss battles that we could’ve had
    Mettaton Neo
    Asgore and maybe even Flowey with the souls

  • @bobothedrybones1230
    @bobothedrybones1230 6 лет назад +1

    I think it could of ended VERY differently. Flowey warns everyone about the human, then they ALL attack you at once!

  • @mmgmagic
    @mmgmagic 6 лет назад +1

    You know that glitch where Papyrus was hidden when Undyne was looking for you. Well, what if Papyrus used Sans' machine in a universe where it works to come there and attempt to fight? IDK, Just a idea.

  • @rooneyaidein7031
    @rooneyaidein7031 Год назад +2

    If you change the code so that he doesnt slid out, he dont actually die, so you might be right

  • @stm7810
    @stm7810 6 лет назад

    I love the theory of Sans having ketchup and a pillow in his Jacket and either due to future vision of dumb luck or some other third thing your attack breaks the bottle and he fakes the damage numbers like Alphys in the TP credits so he can escape, probably to a different universe or the void.

  • @fartmaster6977
    @fartmaster6977 2 года назад +2

    even with LV 20, i doubt the player could actually defeat omega flowey. flowey already has control over the timeline and your save file. plus even if you got his health all the way to 0 he could simply load his save like he does when you actually fight him on the neutral route. and then he proceeds to kill the player over and over again. so im pretty sure that flowey could actually kill and eradicate the player once and for all.

  • @galactic_cupcake8744
    @galactic_cupcake8744 2 года назад +1

    You see the human souls would be on flowey’s side because you would technically be saving everyone if flowey kills you