Installing Factory Navigation in Your Saab! (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2019
- In this vid, I go over how to install the factory Delphi satellite navigation radio in your 07-11 Saab 9-3. I ran into a few hiccups that are resolved in my part 2. Everything works (including steering wheel controls) with the exception of Onstar and the voice recognition/commands. I will show how to add the voice recognition in a part 3. If this helped you out be sure to like, subscribe for more content and comment below with questions.
Parts used in this vid include:
1.) Metra 40-CR20: amzn.to/3kG99fg
2.) Metra 40-EU55: amzn.to/3oNpt0q
3.) Chevrolet/Cadillac/Hummer/GM/GMC GPS Navigation Map Antenna: amzn.to/36lCjeY
4.) 12777838 or 12779029 SAAB 9-3 Navigation GPS System Radio (dont buy new!): www.cd4car.com/saab-9-3-navig...
5.) Radio socket for the vehicle speed sensor hook up if you don't have an original socket to modify: www.ebay.com/itm/GM-Factory-R...
6.) Pre-made harness to plug into the radio for VSS hookup as well as to the VCIM to hook up voice recognition (shown in my part 3 nav install vid): www.ebay.com/itm/2007-2012-GM...
Credit for install information primarily came from this source: www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...
Contact: WeakestOfWeeks@gmail.com
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Exciting news (at least to me): The nav unit is now fully functioning!! Next week I'll post the part 2 video showing the map disk error fix. Be sure to subscribe to catch when it's posted! As always, thanks for watching 🚘
I don't know who you are on FB or in real life, but I just want to say thank you for sharing all these information. I added the factory Nav unit myself but the learning curve was quite long after asking (bothering) way too many times and hours of internet research. Keep up with what you are doing, people like you are the reason why a dead car brand is still around till this day.
Thanks you, much appreciated!!
That’s what I’m gonna do next in my
Saab 93 vector sport 2009
Thanks for the video.
Thanks I used the video as a guide for a successful install into my linear 08 daily!
Extremely informative. Great job. Thanks. I wonder how easy is it to install the Chinese stereos available on line... Tia.
Love the looks of this unit!
Hey, thanks for all the info. I set up mine just like yours. Thanks again
I just answered my own question. Heck yeah man!
Looks sooo cleannn
I just purchased the same exact nav display, and the old one is the same as yours, so I have my work cutout for me! I installed it in a 2010 9-3 XWD sedan. What are the other 2 plugs used for?
Wow, great video. Was alot easier to install a ICM3 on my 9-3 2003 however. Just plug-in, tech 2 install et voila. No GPS though, but still a big facelift
Is there a reason where you spliced the antenna wires? I see everyone just do a plug and play. Does it have to do with the XM? TIA
Very helpful👍
Great job Many thanks for this very good video ,,,, i become crazy i do everything with my new radio Navigation ( i try put it in my new car Saab 9.3 2007 Victor .. this Radio DVD was good working in my car Subaru Legacy 2001 but i bought Saab now .) But there is no Radio signal ..(( there is sound, the video is working, Bluetooth works ,just problem with Radio signal )) i change many antenna but still no signal ... until i saw your video , i think you connect those two wire number 6 with 12 ( is it for antenna working ?? )) . i shall try do that and see if can help me with Radio signal works with this ... BUT i do not have that device Tech 2 !! is it necessary ?? i check my car but i do not have same wire .. that number 6 there is no wire also nr 4, 5, 6,7,and 14 no wire in those hole !!.
I was able to pull the exact connector for the speed sensor but the wire tore. I have an extra saab door harness with wires. Can I just pull one of the wires, attach it to the connector and then pull it from the dash to the footwell? Also, do we need to tap in or can this physically connect somewhere?
Hi. Are you sure blue preamp wire is ground? . Usually that wire should be +12v , usually conected to the lighter. Let me know.
Great video - could you please just point me in the direction to obtain the radio antenna adapters pls 😬😀😀😀 - cheers
Wow! Good job!!! I'm thinking in changing the radio of my saab but I'm not so sure right now, what about the steering wheel? the options still working? Greeting from Chile!
Thanks for watching! Yes, steering wheel controls work exactly like they should.
Thanks again and almost there with this wee project - can you please share a link to the FM antenna adapter cable that connects into the back of the delphi head unit ?
Sure. The antenna adapter that plugs into the SatNavs antenna spot is (Metra 40-CR20): amzn.to/3EkF6Tl
Then the Metra 40-EU55 (amzn.to/3spXYy1) plugs into the 40-CR20 on one end and then into the vehicle original antenna plug.
The additional blue wire on the 40-EU55 harness is the one that I didn't use but you may be able to attach 12v power to avoid modifying the factory radio harness.
great job
My new challenge is I pulled the entire Bose 9 speakers and 2 piece amp and (friggin five count em 5) amp pigtail harnesses(!) And splice into my 2007 equipped with entry level Pioneer system. Any pointers?
Great video thanks and mid way through my head unit upgrade to the delphi sat nav in my 2012 93 convertible - what is the purpose of the wiring alteration to the grey/white and white cables on the existing loom - any help much appreciated
Switching the wires helps with the sound and antenna reception. I haven't tried it but you might be able to do away with altering those wires and just add 12v power to the blue antenna adapter wire. At the time of making this video I thought it was a ground but now that I think about it that may not be the case. You can always just plug in the satnav without altering the wires and then marry via tech 2. Hear how it sounds and check the radio FM reception. More than likely it will be less than desirable. Then take an alligator clip and run 12v power to blue antenna adapter wire and test again. If the sound and reception still do not get better, then proceed to modify wires as seen in video. Thanks for the comment and best of luck with your install!
I have a question i install my is working and all but the volume knob is not lowering or increasing the Volume any idea how to fix it also i cant lower the volume with the steering wheel bottoms
Meaning the remote enable to the antenna wire is it a must to connect to work?
It appears to save a few hundred on Ebay parts, the 2007 Tahoe had the same headunit albeit the buttons don't have individual chrome borders, but 99% match. Saab nav unit is 400, Tahoe/Yukon goes as little as 150
While the other GM radios compared to Saabs SatNav are nearly visually identical, electronically they're a bit different. Mounting points are similar but also different. The Silverado/Sierra/Tahoe versions do not use a disc drive for the maps function. Also, you would likely need a GM factory unlocked radio to even try to marry to the Saab. I've only theorized this since I've tried previously to marry a vin locked GM radio to my Saab without any luck. The factory unlocked versions are way over priced and not worth the experiment.
I´ve just got today a used GPS for my 2007 SAAB 9.3 (Diesel). A litle bit expensive (€190 in Portugal, place were use to be manufactured :) :), about $210 USD), but apparently is in very good conditions. Hope not have bad surprises. I´ll install it following your indications. I wonder if you could help me with the addicional cables brands and references (antenna adaptores for exemple). Thanks a lot for your PRECIOUS tips! GREAT JOB!
I´ve notice later that you´ve described all the parts used....
Thanks bro.
Thanks for the video man! Is it possible to install an icm2 (headunit) from a salvage car that hasnt been divorced from the car? They sell one at my local junkyard, but im pretty sure they havent divorced it.
No problem! Yes, you shouldn't have any problems if its not divorce from the donor car. I heard those are plug and play and don't even need married via tech 2. I don't have first hand experience to confirm that last portion though.
Great tutorial! I have one question. Im about to install navi in my 2008 9-3 but i dont have Tech2 (my friend have one). Can i put navi unit and drive couple days with no problem till i visit my friend and program via Tech2 new navi unit?
Thanks! Yes you can install it and wait until your friend can officially marry it to the car via tech2. I would wait to put the top center HVAC vent in in case you have to pull the unit back out for any troubleshooting.
pretty informative video...
I also installed a stock 2007 OEM navigation unit (came from a bose system car),
to my 2008 non bose saab 9-3.
After programming the unit using the Tech 2 scanner, the unit finally turned on.
Issue im having is the sound is very very distorted, and the engineer is saying thats because my car is non bose and the unit comes off a bose system car.
Do you have any suggestions and ideas as to what i could do to maybe correct this?
That's an interesting question. I don't know much about the non-bose sound systems. Could be caused since yours wasn't bose like you said or maybe an issue with the radio itself? Is the distortion across all forms of sound? For example FM tuner, CD, aux input?
I fitted this unit on my 2010 9 3 and didn't cut any wires. It was simply plug and play with the exception of the adaptors you showed and the tech2 program. Works fine but no AM and no XM.
Good feedback! It will certainly function without the wire modifications shown but, like you've found out not all functions will work and radio reception probably not as good. Heck, you don't necessarily need to create a VSS hookup but the nav unit won't update your driving progress as fast.
Took mine apart, I looked at the diagram and I don't have an ant enable wire anywhere. I was able to get the Distance pulse in/speed senser to work by splicing, I have all the adapters but no ant enable exists in the harness. Everything works but FM reception is terrible now. I do have #6 but it's called REM EN OUT.
On the 40-EU55 antenna harness should be an extra blue wire. See if you can hook that up to a keyed 12v source (probably easiest to tap into the cigarette lighter). I would first try with a wire with alligator clip ends and run to the positive battery cable to test before you splice anything new.
At the end… where did u manage to put GPS antenna, i already did place it on the TOP of satnav unit as you did there, but sometimes it wont receive gps signal, and will show gps logo on top left screen with red line on it.
Strange! My gps antenna is still directly on top of the satnav as shown in my install video series. Only trouble I have losing signal is sometimes in parking garages and tunnels but that's normal with any gps system.
Hi, do you have the Bose Centerpoint feature on your Nav? I heard that not all the Nav units have it, only higher PNs end to XXXX9029 !
No I don't believe mine does. I looked at the menus and only see Custom, Rock, Pop, County, Classical and Talk. Unfortunately no Centerpoint options.
Can this be done in the 07 9-5 also???
Nice video and by the way I would like to know where I can get the security access I got a 2003 Saab and I’m about to change the cluster but I know that I had a married it ?
Thanks for watching! I would use GlobalTIS for security access. I have a video where I talk about security access as well as resources listed in the description that should help: ruclips.net/video/N98DBlgGMmM/видео.html
As for the instrument cluster, you do need security access and it has to have lower miles on it than the car its going it. For example you cannot put a cluster from a car with 170,000 miles into a car with 130,000. Hope that helps!
❤👍Good video 👍Original👍
Hello did you connected the satnav antena to the 2 connectors shark fin antena on the roof (phone+satnav) if you had it, of course, or did you use aftermarket nav antena hanging out on the back or top of the unit ?
Hello. I did not need to hook anything directly up to the shark fin since the thicker black antenna wire from the back of the radio leads up to the shark fin. Since the shark fins on non satnav cars are not used for gps I used an aftermarket magnetic gps antenna and set it directly on top on the satnav radio as shown in video. Theres no need to route into the headliner or anything bc it picks up great reception just in the dash. If you truly wanted to do an all oem install you would need a shark fin with the multiple connector plugs and route an additional gps wire from the shark fin to the radio. It's a lot of work for no different of a result than what I did.
Weakest of Weeks yes of course you’re right but I want to install it oem. So I’ll buy 2 wires shark fin and the 2 connectors loom from dashboard up to the roof, or the loom with just the nav connection, without the brown connector only the blue nav one ( brown is only for car mobile phone install, which is completely not used by anyone anyway, it’s what I have oem in my Saab) A bit of work but the result is oem it’s what I want. Thanks. Nice work 👍💪🏻
I like that you're willing to do the extra work to make it a full OEM install. If I had the time and patience I would. Best of luck with your install!
Hi, greetings, I will soon install my browser, just that I have a question, I need to remove the radio from the other car so that it works on mine? or can I do everything with my car? (I have tech 2) thanks
Hello! When you remove the radio from the donor car you do not need to "divorce" it from the car with the tech 2. You will have to "marry" the radio to your vehicle via tech 2 though. Hope that helps
Hi bro can you help me to fix my GM navigation radio
if the speed sensor not connect what I be missing ?I can't find a clip for that sensor yellow wire
I would try it without the speed sensor hooked up and see how far you get. The navigation may think you're not moving or may not update properly.
Quick question I'm about to install a Navi OEM in my 2010 9-3 convertible now those The two wires you put together what happens if you don't put them together not the speed wire but the power enable wire?
If you don't modify those wires shown then the radio reception and sound quality will be poor.
The reason I ask is because a guy on auto autopsy didn't put those two wires together in his work also you know anybody selling a radio OEM navi? I found one on eBay he wants $260 for it
@@thegonzalezfamily7407 I unfortunately don't know anyone currently selling a SatNav radio. As for the mentioned Auto Autopsy install, that wasn't the proper way to retrofit a SatNav radio into a car that never had one from the factory. Not saying my video is perfect or the only way it can be done but you cannot just plug it in an expect all of the features to work.
Gary, Has anybody found a way to update the NAV DVD? I know there is one for Europe, since I suspect there are many more Saabs over there. I guess somebody took the time to re-code the DVD to work over there. Or, is there another GM DVD that works, even though Saab would not come up when turned on, aside from throwing another module in it, like you did in another video? I performed your install and it worked great, then removed it thinking I might trade my car, but now I am going to reinstall it since the Saab I looked at was a complete piece of crap! Since my last comment, I now have a brand new front subframe (brand new FWD, converted to XWD!), so, I'm keeping the car. My original was ready to snap! Thanks for your awesome videos! Doug
Not to my knowledge has any one came up with an updated US nav disk. I wish someone would like the Europe maps so we don't have to swap the nav module out!
I have a saab 9-3 and I bought the navigation system but I am missing the connection kit, where can I buy it
All of the links for parts are in the video's description and should still work. If not let me know and I'll see if I can locate current ones.
Does my car have to be equipped with onstage for this to work or will this work on any 93 2007+?
I can't confirm that 100 percent as I've only installed on vehicles with XM and with Onstar but I believe the sat nav retrofit can work even if you don't have onstar. You may not have functionality of voice commands and some others but for the most part the actual navigation portion should work fine.
can i add bluetooth?
Very good work, but you have missed to install this part number 12781884, without it, the quality of the sound of the speakers won't be that good, and won't match the loudness of the previous head unit that can make.
I appreciate the recommendation. My Saab actually has the premium bose sound system with that part. For sake of time in the video, I show me programming for the 7 speaker system since I didn't know which one I had at the time. I later went back and programmed to the correct 11 (if I remember correctly) speaker system. Honestly, there was no difference in sound quality vs 7 and 11 speaker system after programming. Either way, the sound quality is actually much better, including antenna reception, over the original 6 disk changer head unit!
Will a oem nav unit with a European part number work in an American Saab?
I believe it will, you'll just need to find an OEM Saab US navigation disc
Btw my english its not so good and I didnt understand why You do that whole wiring ? With out this my nav wotn work ? I juts got it fev days ago and I just plug it and no wim waiting for GPS antenna and radio adapter. With out wiring somethink wont be working ?
You can plug the nav unit in, marry with tech2 scanner and it will sort of work. Modifying the vehicles original wiring like in the video is for the antenna and will make the radio sound better. The added wiring to the floor is for the speed sensor so the GPS knows the car is moving.
@@WeakestofWeeks So If I wont do that wiring to the floor my navigation will be useles ?
@@agresorxf it won't be useless but updates the map only a couple of times each min.
Do you know how to fix a blank screen but stereo still works
The display could be burned out. You can transplant displays from a similar satnav unit like the Saturn unit I used for parts (since some Saab parts are treated like gold). You will need to physically remove the unit from your car and will need some very small nut drivers if you plan to keep your original button surrounds. I did that bc the Saturn satnav unit I used has a silver trim surround and the Saabs is black. A point of mention is that you will not need to use a tech 2 unless you replace then entire radio unit with another OEM unit.
Does this work with older SAAB, like the one with cassettes, SAAB 9-5 AERO from 2003?
Hi could you tell me the part numbers please thank you
They're in the description my friend.
Where can i contact you. Have a question about this
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Всё классно. Молодец. Наглядно интересно и познавательно. С железным проводом ясно.Вот вторая врезка провода номер 6 и 12. Их соединили и к антенне прикрутили. И синий провод на массу. Зачем это все в скрутке и функции.Не совсем понятно.
You write in the description in point 4 "dont buy new". Why ?
I mention to not buy new because the price of the new original Saab navigation units are very expensive and used ones can be found for much cheaper.
@@WeakestofWeeksRight thats true, I was think maybe so its there other reason. Do You remember that unit what I sended to You in my email ? How much it was it ? around 1800 ? But sad truth is so its impossible to get that unit in really pristine shape.
Could I add this to my Saab 9-3 convertible. 2003 model?
I looked into thisfor my 09 and its way too pricey (300+ dollars on ebay). I'm all for oem look But outdated maps+no Bluetooth audio streaming = a no go for that price. wish i could find one in the sub 100 dollar range. owell this is a nice guide tho.
Agreed. The only reason I did the swap was bc I found some great deals on used units. Not easy to find but they're out there. I bought my first Saab satnav from ebay for $90 shipped. One locally for $55 and a Saturn unit for $60 that I used for parts. All I've used to swap into 9-3's that never had the navigation option. Keep on the hunt if you're going for that OEM look. You never know, you may just find some great deals!
i have same radio in stock lol
Hi!! After installed this NAV System from GM (Delphi Grundig) on my 2007 EUROPEAN SAAB 9-3 (Wagon), following your instructions (works PERFECTLY!), I wonder if there´s any upgrade to install a Bluetooth system without using any exterior device (like the AUX plug)?.... I heard about a CRUX device (BTS-GM1X) that is easy to install (plug and play - ruclips.net/video/Zqlz3nyKy98/видео.html ), but I´m not pretty sure if it works, as I don´t know if my SAAB have the XM satellite radio Tuner (if it exist, don´t know the location). I wonder if you have some addicional information. Thanks a lots......
Hello, thank you for watching and glad the video helped! First off, do you have an option for XM when selecting between FM, CD, etc? If you don't have this setting then I would assume you do not have the XM option. Since the sedan 9-3's XM tuner is in the trunk on the rear right I would check to see if your combi is also within the rear right of your cargo area. I've heard mixed reviews about that module going bad after a short time and the fact it is only for music. I've personally used this (www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-FM-Transmitter-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B07F2RTN5Z/ref=sr_1_5?crid=7DL6EKIMSXHX&dchild=1&keywords=cigarette+lighter+bluetooth+adapter&qid=1592173526&sprefix=cigarette+lighter+blu%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-5) for music and calls and is hardly noticeable. Hope that helps!
@@WeakestofWeeks Hello.... unfortunatly I do not have the XM option to be selected. So, I´ll follow your option ordering the Bluetooth device that you referred. Once again, thank you very much for your help
You're welcome!
Great video. I am thinking of ugrading to aftermarket video. I don't have a tool to "divorce" it. Will i be okay by still being "married"? lol
Thank you! Unfortunately, the radios will be vin locked and unusable if you're not able to divorce the old radio and marry the new one to your car. Depending on where you live you may have someone near you with a scanner. Check out post #2 on this forum and find out who's local to you: www.saabcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383074
I just realized you were talking about an aftermarket radio. If that's the case then no you shouldn't need a tech 2. If you removing you OEM radio for another then yes, you would need the tech 2.
Thanks man
Weakest of Weeks Hey thanks for the awesome video. Anyway I have a 2007 93 Aero SportCombi wagen that came stock with the Nav/XM radio touch screen that you installed in this video. I am now looking to switch this out with an after market head unit because I want Bluetooth, usb etc. I am trying to buy this unit www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Android-MP3-Car-Player-Saab-9-3-93-MP4-Radio-Stereo-Head-Unit-GPS-Fascia-Kit/303094645774?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180816085401%26meid%3D6222515b64d84748b86a0561ef9cf9a4%26pid%3D100970%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D303094645774%26itm%3D303094645774%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100970.m5481&_trkparms=pageci%3Aaa10e4b8-b8c6-11e9-b569-74dbd18070f7%7Cparentrq%3A6a342fc316c0ad31c3adebadffd3ce0c%7Ciid%3A1 but they’re saying it’s incompatible? Is it because they’re running connectors that you had to mod to fit the unit that I have stock? If you know how to get this to work or know of one that will that would be great! Thanks!
I'm just discouraged this looks so complicated
Too complicated for most would not bother it's a saab headache 😣
Lmao try doing an audi single to double din conversion then
dear gary.i am from roland hungary and i would like to ask for your help.i also have a saab 9-3 sport combi car.if you would give me an email there i would be sorry if it is incomprehensible but i don't know english so i write with google translator! :)
Hello! Feel free to email me at weakestofweeks@gmail.com and I'll help as best as I can.