1 - 01:06 - The Magic took Florida from the Heat (Butler getting traded?) 2 - 06:10 - Rookie of the year will be weird 3 - 09:42 - Ben Simmons to restore his trade value? 4 - 12:57 - Intuit Dome (lame on TV) 5 - 14:06 - Tatum fixed his shot and might have MVP season 6 - 17:45 - Impact of Knicks-Timberwolves trade
Right. It was really disappointing at first because his ceiling seemed so high, but the last two years have been a consistent decline of relevance of him. Watched the nets the other day, he made no level of impact in that game.
I don't blame him. Jimmy Butler worship is one of the most annoying things on NBA Twitter. You'd think he'd never had a bad game, let alone a bad playoff series.
I wouldn't trade for Butler, period. Just not convinced that a bruised and battered former Thibs player in his mid-30s with a questionable jumper is swinging a title. That said, why are people so high on Amen? People act like a jumper is a minor skill in 2024. It's not. Unless you're a center, if you don't have a 3pt shot, you're useless. I don't care how good a defender and passer you are. And neither Thompson twin has shown even a hint of potential as a shooter.
Amen Thompson for a 35 year old jimmy butler is definitely proof that that mucinex haze is still going strong. I wouldn’t do that straight up, much less Houston adding more to that. I would need butler and a first or herro for Thompson, he could be our second best player in three months. What does jimmy butler sitting out half the regular season do for the rockets exactly?
I'm probably one of the only ones who thinks Simmons would be awesome, on the right team. All the space now days, he's getting to the basket or passing to an open corner three. Size and D, shooters all around him it could really work.
The arguement about Tatum's shot in the Olymics is wild seeing as no one was really shooting well for the most part but other players had a chance to work through it with game time.
I want you to do me a favor. Pull up Steph Curry's game logs from last year. Now I want you to tell me how many games he had shooting under 30% from three. Spoiler: it's a lot. You don't know how shooting works from night to night, do you? His shot may be fixed, and he may end up shooting a career high from three this season. That doesn't mean he's going to shoot 40% every night. That should be pretty obvious, but I guess I have to spell it out.
I'm happy that JJ is 'coaching' the Lakers now and no longer a color commentator. I never could stand listening to the games he was an announcer in; furthermore, he was always a prick to his announcing partners like Dave Pasch. Tim Legler is actually likeable unlike JJ. I agree with Bill on indoor arenas not translating well to the television viewers. I enjoy ATP 250 events, because they play some of them at really exotic outdoor locations like Gstaad and Kitzbühel. Anything played indoors just looks the same unless you are actually there in person and experiencing it firsthand.
Listening to the segment with Jacko on the full podcast and he asked if Mary Hart is still with us. It’s okay to admit you don’t who she is. She’s the blonde woman sitting directly behind home plate at literally EVERY Dodgers home game. If you’ve watched a Dodgers home game this post season, you’ve seen Mary Hart. So yes Jacko, she’s still with us and she’s front-row-center every Dodgers home game.
The Timberwolves feel like they took a torch to their momentum, for no reason. KAT didn't shoot well in the playoffs, but hell, this was their first deep run in the playoffs. It wasn't like he was 0 for 10 or anything. 19/9 for a team that defeated the defending champions in 7 games. They didn't run it long enough to determine if this was going to be a thing or not. This wasn't a Charles Oakley for Horace Grant type of "open it up" trade. At least I hope not. Wouldn't that be a terrible reason for a GM to make a move? "Well, the Bulls gave away Jordan's favorite guy for a player who wasn't as good and look what the Bulls ended up doing!" That doesn't work if it's the #2 guy going instead of the #3 or #4 guy you're giving up chemistry for. This felt like a blockbuster for the sake of one. Utterly arbitrary.
This should be the Six Overreacttions After One Game podcast and I went to the Clippers preseason game; the Intuit dome doesn't look like any other arena in person.
Two Memphis points: 1: looks like you are gonna be left holding a lot of over-valued Edey stock. 2. As a team, sure they escaped with a win, but they looked so undisciplined... putting the Jazz on the stripe 45 times? what? what will happen when they play a team that has more skill players than just "The Markksman" (not to sell him short). I think you said in the over-under segment that you wouldnt be surprised if they are top 3 in the West. Hope you hedge ;)
The Age 27 year is well known in MLB analytics as well as the prime year in many player careers, particularly if that player does not take performance enhancing drugs. Its also complicated by injuries, whether that player is still improving in terms of their skill, any "chips on their shoulders" or whether it's a Free Agent year, so it's far from certain, but we can expect great years this and next for Tatum.
13:37 This has to be the most nothing take he has had in a while. Like fucking obviously it's gonna feel different if you're actually at the arenas. MSG looks the same to me as Delta Center on TV, but that's not the point. It's a whole different experience actually being there, and that's who it's meant to be for. And the worst part about this take is KD himself admitted that the stadium was affecting him. Come on Bill, if you didn't have a 6th thing to talk about don't just force takes.
I am fully a hater but the Celtics game was incredibly impressive and also I just didn’t enjoy watching it. I sound like an old man but there were way too many threes
It was a blow out was the problem. They kept shooting 3s because they were getting open and nailing them. From their perspective I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it?
I don’t hate it as much when teams are making them and Bos was obviously on fire for 3 quarters. But the games where both teams are firing them up and it’s miss after miss are just unbearable.
Unfortunately that is what the modern game has become. It's definitely less exciting, but it's still something you can appreciate when you don't compare it to better basketball and just take it for what it is now.
@@jasonlevesque6340bro stop crying, the nba has so much more variety than it ever did. There’s no way you can watch the Pacers and the Magic and say that they play the exact same. Even if every team played like that it would be better than anything from the 2000s
Simmons doens't mention that JB was 27 last year and won FMVP smh. Also I took 13-1 mvp odds because if you watch preseason you could see his stroke was back
JTs not an MVp, his % will go down to his avg. hes still not getting by anyone. dont mean hes not great - defense, playmaking, decent shot to keep ppl honest.
Not on the right side of history bro, stop the Westbrook hate! Everyone boils it down to discrediting the triples doubles, but neglect all of the other things he did to deserve that MVP
Missi ROY? Theis is only competition, Pels DESPERATE for a center. Might get enough minutes to put up moderate numbers needed to win with this class. Put up 12 & 7 in debut.
"Tatum maybe winning MVP" is not something going on in the NBA. With Luka, Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Wemby, and SGA in the league, Tatum will never separate himself to the point of being a legit contender for that award. The competition is too harsh for him. Beyond his competition, his lack of aura, inability to be the best player on the Celtics for even 3 games in a row, and game devoid of dominance will make it so he never wins the award.
If Bill actually watched his own team’s game he’d realize that Bridges fixed the hitch mid game and went back to his own shot. View the tape. But whatever.
I 100% believe that Ben Simmons is actually going to be a really good player this year, some team is going to give him a 3-4 contract, and then he'll resume being the worst player in the league.
whats with NBA players like Tatum and SGA having personalities the writers of NBA 2k came up with? this is WNBA level aura from our best players. weird.
Tatum has 2 personality traits. #1. Deuces dad #2. Loves Kobe. That’s it. We already knew that and a whole Netflix series couldn’t find anything else in his personality 😂😂😂
The Cam disrespectful is honestly ridiculous. Dude was 14/27 from the field. Would've had 7-8 assists if his teammates could actually make shots which they can't. You gonna tell the only guy on the team who can get buckets to stop getting them at pretty damn good effeciency Bill? Maybe you would cuz you're definitely not knowledgeable enough to actually be his coach and that's why you do this Podcast instead.
JT is not an MVP candidate because the team is too good and JB is almost at his same level while the leadership of the team is clearly sitting on multiple players. It was not about the shooting.
1 - 01:06 - The Magic took Florida from the Heat (Butler getting traded?)
2 - 06:10 - Rookie of the year will be weird
3 - 09:42 - Ben Simmons to restore his trade value?
4 - 12:57 - Intuit Dome (lame on TV)
5 - 14:06 - Tatum fixed his shot and might have MVP season
6 - 17:45 - Impact of Knicks-Timberwolves trade
1st
I like Bill. But i like you more because you allow me to skip the Boston talk.🍺
Thanks. I know to skip the Tatum part now. The bias is annoying
Thank you Richie rich
Why is Bam not the Heats best player?
Man, well done. That stat about 27 year olds was really interesting. 84 Bird was incredible
Ben Simmons can't seriously still be an NBA talking point in 2024
Man’s got an agent that’s used to keeping a diva who pretends to be an athlete relevant
Right. It was really disappointing at first because his ceiling seemed so high, but the last two years have been a consistent decline of relevance of him. Watched the nets the other day, he made no level of impact in that game.
Statline from the game Bill is talking about:
24 minutes: *_6 points, 5 rebounds, 8 assists, 6 turnovers, & 5 fouls_*
Zero spacing. Zero free throws.
@@jhank0ceanlower the turnovers and that's early Jason kidd numbers 😂
I'm personally love it
Bill is SO happy about how Miami looked last night lol
I don't blame him. Jimmy Butler worship is one of the most annoying things on NBA Twitter. You'd think he'd never had a bad game, let alone a bad playoff series.
Bill “I have a vote” Simmons
he can't bet on these things because he has a vote
Bill not Ben Simmons.
Bill "when I had clippers season tickets" Simmons
@@cookhortlmao Celtics fans living in LA 😂
There's not that many of us
i kinda like that Bill is the rare bball podcaster who is running an old-fashioned beer ad read instead of gambling app stuff.
Same
He does plenty of FanDuel ad reads if you watch his actual podcast on Spotify lol. And they mention the name FanDuel like 10 times per podcast
Oh he definitely does plenty of fanduel ads.
@@therealmvp1024 ah. didn't know that. too bad.
Dude, Amen Thompson isn't going in a Jimmy Butler trade
I wouldn't trade for Butler, period. Just not convinced that a bruised and battered former Thibs player in his mid-30s with a questionable jumper is swinging a title.
That said, why are people so high on Amen? People act like a jumper is a minor skill in 2024. It's not. Unless you're a center, if you don't have a 3pt shot, you're useless. I don't care how good a defender and passer you are. And neither Thompson twin has shown even a hint of potential as a shooter.
The best wouldn’t want him. You have zero assets the heat would want
you know the trend of "quiet quitting" in the workplace? Julius Randle's doing this in the NBA lol
Dudes got 22 points at half right now just saying lol
comment aging like milk
Empty calories. Wait till you have him when you need to win a playoff game.
@@ou8428 Nailed it. Hey Julius Randle - you’re on TV - you can’t hide who you really are.
In my 35 years of watching basketball, I've never seen anyone go off for 30+ points and still piss me off more than Randle
Bill Simmons is my favorite journalist ever
Who's your 2nd? Russilo?
So Ben Simmons is your favorite nba player ever then?
@@jacksheppard3591 no but I really like him. I’d say Charles Barkley for the exact opposite reasons of Bill 😂
When did Bill Simmons become a journalist?
Amen Thompson for a 35 year old jimmy butler is definitely proof that that mucinex haze is still going strong. I wouldn’t do that straight up, much less Houston adding more to that. I would need butler and a first or herro for Thompson, he could be our second best player in three months. What does jimmy butler sitting out half the regular season do for the rockets exactly?
$50 million a year for 35 year old Jimmy Butler is crazy. What teams have that much salary to trade?
I realized that as you were talking about Ben Simmons, that I want to see him on the Nuggets with Jokic.
The nuggets just gave their point guard tons of money thou
They already have Westbrook
@@Earl_E_Burd what does that have to do with anything?
@@rome8180RUclips comment dudes think Westbrook and Simmons have the same game
Bill wants Buttler out of the East so bad...
Yes!!! More Orlando talk!!!
Ceruti burner
The Number one talking point of the 2024-25 season is the Ringer’s loss of KOC
I hope Bill didn't sell his Evan Mobley stock
Butler will not be with Miami after the deadline imo. They have no intention of resigning him. Its to me the same as the PG situation.
I'm probably one of the only ones who thinks Simmons would be awesome, on the right team. All the space now days, he's getting to the basket or passing to an open corner three. Size and D, shooters all around him it could really work.
Send him to Golden State, Draymond will punch his soul out of his body within one month
Jayson Tatum listed with ALL TIME GREATS IS WILD
He’s got a ring and the potential for an MVP. He’s not far
2025 MVP title is Luka’s
The arguement about Tatum's shot in the Olymics is wild seeing as no one was really shooting well for the most part but other players had a chance to work through it with game time.
Ben Simmons as a Heat reclamation project... ... Im here for it! They just need to add a Spo cam to the broadcast
Can we please get the full show on youtube?
Cam was 14/27 and 7/14 from three last night. Not as bad as he made it seem. Thought I was gonna see like 10/30 or something lol
You will majority of the season lol
Can always count on Bill bringing up 84 bird every Hoops episode 😅
Edey just seemed overly excited. He wanted to make his imprint immediately, and it didn’t work out. Once he settles in, he’ll be good.
THANK YOU!!! Thank you for saying what I’ve been telling people about Tatum and the Olympics
More Ceruti Magic talk
THANK GOD BILLS HOOP CONTENT IS BACK AND HIS FOOTBALL CONTENT IS DYING OUT!!!😊
The Magic in the second half was special. Paolo undeniably best player on the floor, correct sir!
fast forwarded through the Tatum talk
disrespectful to Bill, he barely ever mentions him 😢
@@richi1235 😂😂
“This podcast is presented by Michelob ULTRA! I am a light beer guy. Sorry, hate to tell you, but it’s true!”
Tatum fixed the shot and just went 3/11 from three 😂😂😂
I want you to do me a favor. Pull up Steph Curry's game logs from last year. Now I want you to tell me how many games he had shooting under 30% from three. Spoiler: it's a lot.
You don't know how shooting works from night to night, do you? His shot may be fixed, and he may end up shooting a career high from three this season. That doesn't mean he's going to shoot 40% every night. That should be pretty obvious, but I guess I have to spell it out.
I'm happy that JJ is 'coaching' the Lakers now and no longer a color commentator. I never could stand listening to the games he was an announcer in; furthermore, he was always a prick to his announcing partners like Dave Pasch. Tim Legler is actually likeable unlike JJ.
I agree with Bill on indoor arenas not translating well to the television viewers. I enjoy ATP 250 events, because they play some of them at really exotic outdoor locations like Gstaad and Kitzbühel. Anything played indoors just looks the same unless you are actually there in person and experiencing it firsthand.
Michelle Ultra got real close to Courtside during the Celtics game 😂
Twice!
Listening to the segment with Jacko on the full podcast and he asked if Mary Hart is still with us. It’s okay to admit you don’t who she is. She’s the blonde woman sitting directly behind home plate at literally EVERY Dodgers home game. If you’ve watched a Dodgers home game this post season, you’ve seen Mary Hart. So yes Jacko, she’s still with us and she’s front-row-center every Dodgers home game.
All this pressure yall putting on Tatums back after 1 game might bring the hitch back
Do over on a draft when the guys have played 1 game is insane
Thank you! 16:56
The Timberwolves feel like they took a torch to their momentum, for no reason. KAT didn't shoot well in the playoffs, but hell, this was their first deep run in the playoffs. It wasn't like he was 0 for 10 or anything. 19/9 for a team that defeated the defending champions in 7 games. They didn't run it long enough to determine if this was going to be a thing or not. This wasn't a Charles Oakley for Horace Grant type of "open it up" trade. At least I hope not. Wouldn't that be a terrible reason for a GM to make a move? "Well, the Bulls gave away Jordan's favorite guy for a player who wasn't as good and look what the Bulls ended up doing!" That doesn't work if it's the #2 guy going instead of the #3 or #4 guy you're giving up chemistry for. This felt like a blockbuster for the sake of one. Utterly arbitrary.
It was money based
They looked good tonight.
Pat Riley doesn't want to either spend money for stars or their egos. But celtics looks so good already. They are the team to beat
This should be the Six Overreacttions After One Game podcast and I went to the Clippers preseason game; the Intuit dome doesn't look like any other arena in person.
Missed opportunity to drink 1 beer for each take
Great takes
Two Memphis points: 1: looks like you are gonna be left holding a lot of over-valued Edey stock. 2. As a team, sure they escaped with a win, but they looked so undisciplined... putting the Jazz on the stripe 45 times? what? what will happen when they play a team that has more skill players than just "The Markksman" (not to sell him short). I think you said in the over-under segment that you wouldnt be surprised if they are top 3 in the West. Hope you hedge ;)
A Ben Simmons/Zion frontcourt is disgusting 😂
The Age 27 year is well known in MLB analytics as well as the prime year in many player careers, particularly if that player does not take performance enhancing drugs. Its also complicated by injuries, whether that player is still improving in terms of their skill, any "chips on their shoulders" or whether it's a Free Agent year, so it's far from certain, but we can expect great years this and next for Tatum.
Who was taking proformace enhancing drugs?
Bill really been ramping up the new york hate lately. Maybe its because our teams are better than Boston in every sport outside the NBA? 😂
My one major take is that Michelob Ultra is the most disgusting beer that I’ve ever had.
Giannis is MVP. Settle down bill
Sick Bill goes hard. 😂
Bill has lost the sauce if he thinks jimmy butler is worth amen Thompson plus the contracts to match his own… ain’t no way
If things go like game 1, Bill is going to be insufferable 😅
Would be happy for Hawks fans if Risacher is a durable starting quality forward. They've seen so many misses.
Listening to Simmons talk about betting odds for Rookie of the Year is probably the dumbest moment of my life.
13:37 This has to be the most nothing take he has had in a while. Like fucking obviously it's gonna feel different if you're actually at the arenas. MSG looks the same to me as Delta Center on TV, but that's not the point. It's a whole different experience actually being there, and that's who it's meant to be for. And the worst part about this take is KD himself admitted that the stadium was affecting him. Come on Bill, if you didn't have a 6th thing to talk about don't just force takes.
(5) Let’s not forget, Jaylen Brown’s year 27: Celtics 18th banner year, Conference MVP & Finals MVP!
Dudes a stud
Thanks
I am fully a hater but the Celtics game was incredibly impressive and also I just didn’t enjoy watching it. I sound like an old man but there were way too many threes
It was a blow out was the problem. They kept shooting 3s because they were getting open and nailing them. From their perspective I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it?
I don’t hate it as much when teams are making them and Bos was obviously on fire for 3 quarters. But the games where both teams are firing them up and it’s miss after miss are just unbearable.
Unfortunately that is what the modern game has become. It's definitely less exciting, but it's still something you can appreciate when you don't compare it to better basketball and just take it for what it is now.
@@jasonlevesque6340bro stop crying, the nba has so much more variety than it ever did. There’s no way you can watch the Pacers and the Magic and say that they play the exact same. Even if every team played like that it would be better than anything from the 2000s
Simmons doens't mention that JB was 27 last year and won FMVP smh. Also I took 13-1 mvp odds because if you watch preseason you could see his stroke was back
Orlando mid 50s damn i know theyre early and balled out last season but damn
"Ben Simmons might actually be healthy again"
I give it two weeks tops before he has another "back injury"
You'd think we're at game 45 in the season sheesh
How do you pronounce Knecht? As a German his name is really funny 😂
Essentially: “connect”
Knecht 4 is the best NBA name now
I have a vote: Say NO to gambling. Say yes to Beer.
Went almost a full minute without mentioning embiid. Almost a new record!
Lol if the Lakers lost it would for sure have been a talking point lol
Oh for sure, it would have been number 1 to him 😂 But I do give him credit, he doesn’t ever try to hide his hate/bias for the Lakers.
Love this 🎉
You're tripping on Ben Simmons Bill. His contract year is a poisoned chalice
Bill I have season tickets to the Clippers games Simmons
Add timestamps!
Can’t wait to see Paolo vs Tatum. My $ on Paolo & he’s only 21. & if it isn’t this year it’s definitely next year that Paolo overtakes Tatum
He will be lucky if he is ever as good as Tatum already is.
@@Mac2Mon stay off the snow my guy Paolo is really nice might be great one day but pump the breaks
"No dogs at sporting events. Period."
JTs not an MVp, his % will go down to his avg. hes still not getting by anyone. dont mean hes not great - defense, playmaking, decent shot to keep ppl honest.
No way Tatum is in the top 5 in the NBA.
Bro hates miami for killing his celtquits all those years 😂
Not on the right side of history bro, stop the Westbrook hate! Everyone boils it down to discrediting the triples doubles, but neglect all of the other things he did to deserve that MVP
Damn it's been 1 game...
Missi ROY?
Theis is only competition, Pels DESPERATE for a center. Might get enough minutes to put up moderate numbers needed to win with this class. Put up 12 & 7 in debut.
"Tatum maybe winning MVP" is not something going on in the NBA. With Luka, Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Wemby, and SGA in the league, Tatum will never separate himself to the point of being a legit contender for that award. The competition is too harsh for him. Beyond his competition, his lack of aura, inability to be the best player on the Celtics for even 3 games in a row, and game devoid of dominance will make it so he never wins the award.
Bam should be Miamis best player 🤦🏽♂️
Out of all the young guys Thompson should be the last guy Houston trades 😂 . Why would they trade him for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler
Let’s go Magic!!!
If Bill actually watched his own team’s game he’d realize that Bridges fixed the hitch mid game and went back to his own shot. View the tape. But whatever.
Dude it's one game of 82
I 100% believe that Ben Simmons is actually going to be a really good player this year, some team is going to give him a 3-4 contract, and then he'll resume being the worst player in the league.
Sports ball for hours. Man’s in his 50s !!!
Kerr gave Tatum a chip and the media giving Jaylen mvp when he averaged more points, rebounds, and assists. He’s upset.
Spurs have too many wings too. Castle needs minutes. He’s the real deal.
Ben Simmons (Bill's son) has more trade value than Ben Simmons NBA player
Ben Simmons suddenly cares in a contract year…shocker. He hasn’t changed man he just knows he’s out the league and can bullshit again
Just saying...Tatum
31ppg
8rpg
8apg
1spg
NO FOURTH QUARTER MINUTES
Houston? I thought Suns. 4:56
Get rid of Beal & allen?
Bronny ROY? Would be great for Lebron’s legacy and a media story
Hairs looking good Billy, don’t go to your last barber again. Time for someone new 🙌
whats with NBA players like Tatum and SGA having personalities the writers of NBA 2k came up with?
this is WNBA level aura from our best players. weird.
Tatum has 2 personality traits. #1. Deuces dad #2. Loves Kobe. That’s it. We already knew that and a whole Netflix series couldn’t find anything else in his personality 😂😂😂
I mean you picked the worst 😅
There are many colorful personalities in the NBA: Embiid, Ant, Ja, Kyrie, Butler, Lebron and so on for a while..
@@Mac2Mon hahaaha. ur right .. the kobe thing (and being a good dad) are his redeeming qualities
@@richi1235 but there's a cancer spreading of walking nike commercials taking over the league... we must call this out or it may spread
The Cam disrespectful is honestly ridiculous. Dude was 14/27 from the field. Would've had 7-8 assists if his teammates could actually make shots which they can't. You gonna tell the only guy on the team who can get buckets to stop getting them at pretty damn good effeciency Bill? Maybe you would cuz you're definitely not knowledgeable enough to actually be his coach and that's why you do this Podcast instead.
Bro has to trolling about Simmons
JT is not an MVP candidate because the team is too good and JB is almost at his same level while the leadership of the team is clearly sitting on multiple players. It was not about the shooting.
ORLANDOOOOOOO
That Nic Claxton comment was dumb and pointless.