I saw Optimum's review and fell in love with the this case. Seeing yours and the highlights of the issues with the case feet have told me to source some third party screw-on feet and now it's perfect.
When you mentioned the feet problem my first thought immediately was, well that is fine I can easily print a couple of feet. Good for them that they have thought ahead and made customization easier for us.
Mine came with one tall rubber leg with 3m adhesive. I bought mine like new condition from amazon so i'd imagine from ssupd you get all 4 taller replacement feet which is nice to see.
Just got one and I love it! I used standoffs on the motherboard and gpu for a ton of clearance for wires. I also added in a slim fan on top of the case. Oh and some small feet on the bottom! Its a perfect case in my experience!
@@HardwareCanucks I first calibrate my monitor, then watch one of your videos. If it looks vibrant, sharp & detailed, I know it's correctly calibrated. 😉
So close to a 10/10, if they just also included the larger feet. I want to build in this next or well by that time I hope they make an updated 2nd version.
Pretty good case indeed. I wish they had version where both sides are solid steel plates (no window or mesh) so that the case could be build to push air directly from front to back without leakage to the sides.
The PCI gen 4 riser variant of this case is sold on Newegg. My brother just built a new system in that spec (I can confirm as I was present for the build)
I was really disappointed that I couldn't use my GPU horizontally due to the riser cable because it was a point that Meshilicious advertised and a lot of other reviewers highlighted but you guys are the only ones that pointed out that out of the box, you can't use an ITX GPU horizontally. I don't blame them for not including the cable but I do blame them for neither making it easy to find out at all that this isn't a configuration you can do right out of the box (when they were pretty thorough about other configurations and limitations) nor providing an option to buy the cable. I tried to get help from customer service and they kept on insisting twice that you could buy it from them. FYI, if you're in NA, you can't buy a riser cable from them, so you're fucked unless you chance it with a third-party riser. I bought the case and components with the hope I could have some extra storage with the storage bracket but I was forced to do a build without the riser cable I wanted because I didn't know that it wouldn't be possible out of the box and I was nervous of compatibility from buying it from somewhere else. Customer service was unhelpful as shit because I can't buy it from them and they didn't tell me where I could buy it with assurance of compatibility.
How could you even install your GPU horizontally? It's designed so that the gpu is installed vertical (sandwich mode). Or maybe I'm confused on what you're talking about.
Have this case with an 11400F + 280mm rad and 6700XT nitro+ and it's amazing. By far the best ITX case out. Also a simple mod which I've done and is definitely worth it is setting the case to 4 slot pcie mode and using 25mm standoffs on the pcie riser screws. This'll allow the psu cables to be routed behind the gpu.
good God, did RUclips need a proper review of this case's internal layout in the most detail mannered way ever, great job guys! I was lucky enough to get mine on the first drop (delivery delayed of course for about 2 months) but building in this thing sure is tricky.
Just ordered this case on Newegg yesterday. Also ordered the Linkup Ultra PCIe 4.0 Riser Cable on Amazon. Along with some angled Displayport and HDMI extension cables, and some case feet. Looking forward to putting it all together next week. It was really the only one that would fit the DTX motherboard I have (Asus Crosshair VIII Impact AM4).
25mm standoffs for the riser. Allows to route cables behind. With TP panel my temps are very nice in this case. Added a short so people can see what it looks like (re sleeved my own stock cables)
Well... Jamming an Arctic Freezer II 280mm was the biggest pain in the 4 letters, while also being my most satisfying achievement when building a PC. Managing the cables alone took me about 3 hours and i had to fully disassemble and reassemble the whole god damned thing 4 times. BUUUT! It was all totally worth it! I love this case. It is as small as my XBox Series X which i sold afterwards. Everything runs super cool and quiet because of the meshing housing. Using this thing for about one year for my Living Room TV (mainly Single Player Story Games and Emulation) i am considering to replace my main Gaming PC with one ITX system. Maybe a Second Meshlicious. My biggest concern, why i haven't done it in the first place were noise and cooling. But i am convinced now.
Finally we've waited months! And taller case feet should of been included by default, I 100% agree. Please SSUPD just make some taller plastic case feet.
@@Kizzster try to search for it on ebay or aliexpress, you should find something cheap there. Also, you could buy just the angular adapters (whatever they're called), or if the cable is too short, integrate it with an extension.
Tubes need to be down, unless the radiator top is well above the bend in the tubes. The p/s clearance solution looked sub-optimal as air bubbles could collect in the tubes rather than the rads
I have this case and I’ll probably never buy another. The layout and build quality are excellent at a $109 price point. I have the TG side on my GPU to showcase it and it looks amazing but I must admit, I notice the sag. As for the cable, I bought a right angled display port off Amazon for $10. 10/10 would recommend.
It’s an amazing case and I’ve been very happy with it. It might be even easier to build in than the NR200. Wiring is easy but making your cable management look good is kinda tough. Especially if you’re using any 2.5” drives or have an aio with a bunch of cables coming out of it. Keeps my 5800 (which is notorious for running hot) at around 80c on load. 3070 has never gone past 80c either. For the price I think it’s the iTX case to beat this year.
To have the perfect case I just need to sit my NR200 on the front panel, because I prefer using less footprint on a desk, and it makes IO more accessible overall ;)
I'm really excited for this case but for me personally I want it in a horizontal orientation. I like the way it looks plus I'm an idiot and need it to be tipover-proof
So it's a nice looking, good performing case with a bunch of little issues and some serious compatibility concerns that may or may not be addressed in the owners manual. I'm glad I'm not an ITX guy, it seems like there are so many pitfalls to building a tiny box.
Dmitri: You can buy this case on Newegg. Newegg: Bundles ITX case with an ATX power supply, E-ATX Motherboard, a pair of headphones, and a used Toyota Corolla.
Nice review Dmitri! Always love the case content. I have to question how you've chosen to route the pci extension cable over the top instead of folding from the bottom, this might solve your issue at 6:00 bro
They should have made the case 20 dollars more expensive. Including a longer riser for short gpus, given it tall feet and an additional 90° display port cable. I would have bought it in a heartbeat
Was debating between this and NCase M1, but had enough headache with bottom facing cables with NZXT H1. Not sure I am a fan of motherboard IO position on this one neither.
Love the look of this case, would love to see your opinions on the similar Aigo Yogo S1 (especially as top mounting the GPU I/O resolves the issue you have here).
2:23 Ahh, the old Lian Li problem, gluing the mounting plate to the TG. I've had this problem on 3 different Lian Li cases. Absolutely horrible, they won't even try to fix it. One of the main reasons I stopped buying Lian Li
Looks like its limited to certain parts, definitely sucks they make u buy exhaust fan mounts and legs, One major design flaw is appears the GPU vertical mount is too close the pci slots covers in back which means you cant easily buy some pci slot covers with built in usb and hdmi ports to extend and aesthetically mount so u can plug and play freely But force you to have to run cables through a small exposed ugly hole, It looks like they have enough room to mount the GPU over to the left more so you could utilize the pci slots.
Nice review, I think the critiques aren't much though since anybody building SFF already knows it costs more in general than a normal ATX build. The cable thing is also easily fixed by buying angled cables or buying higher case feet.
1:52 Can someone tell me one is the case on the left of the Meshlicious there? Thanks for putting it next to the Corsair One as well, I am looking for a case that more or less matches the volume and shape of the Corsair one.
The case is actually only hard to get in the U.S. Its available everywhere else really, got mine from Australia and I dont even live there. But yeah just got done building in it for the second time because it is NOT a fun case to build in for me. SO frustrating.
I was waiting for this advert! Well done, bro!
This comment is ridiculously simular to Brandon Taylor's 😂
But his add do be nice tho
@@Kizzster copy paste and change a little
I was waiting for this review! Well done Bro!
Thanks man 🤟 happy to have this one done - I’ve been missing out lol
-D.
U gonna build in it BT?
I like how he doesn’t just end the video instantly he gives a little sneak peak after he’s done filming before ceasing the camera. Awesome!
I saw Optimum's review and fell in love with the this case. Seeing yours and the highlights of the issues with the case feet have told me to source some third party screw-on feet and now it's perfect.
When you mentioned the feet problem my first thought immediately was, well that is fine I can easily print a couple of feet. Good for them that they have thought ahead and made customization easier for us.
An option I would have liked to see is having small rubberized feet with screw holes in the middle for larger feet to connect to if desired.
Mine came with one tall rubber leg with 3m adhesive. I bought mine like new condition from amazon so i'd imagine from ssupd you get all 4 taller replacement feet which is nice to see.
My meshlicious
Has a 5800x n rtx 3070
Beast of a ITX
Love the case
It’s gonna be 2077 by the time we get the PERFECT itx case
Among us case when
Or making shit ourselves, gets cheap enough by then
I think nr200 is perfect enough (if you don't need type-C in front)
@@salmanrasyid5799 not in terms of size
Just got one and I love it! I used standoffs on the motherboard and gpu for a ton of clearance for wires. I also added in a slim fan on top of the case. Oh and some small feet on the bottom! Its a perfect case in my experience!
What kinda standoffs if I may ask.
This question^ also do you have pictures of your fan on top?
@@peterwoodward3085 I want to see that picture too
@@FictitiousMe I actually built a rig in this since then, I don’t know how to send photos Over here but I can totally put a link to a Reddit post
@@peterwoodward3085 Thanks man, please post the link to reddit or your u/
Love this case , I just ordered a 1.4 DP right angle adaptor , solved my issues!
I must give you guys props for the quality of your 4K videos. I actually use it to fine tune my 4K monitor's display settings. 😁
Haha thanks … but how do you calibrate your screen based on my videos?
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks I first calibrate my monitor, then watch one of your videos. If it looks vibrant, sharp & detailed, I know it's correctly calibrated. 😉
I'm impressed with the configurability of the case. Nice video!
I first read this as "The ALMOST Perfect ITX Case - STUPID Meshlicious Review" 😂
This is a great first case from them, maybe with the V2 we'll get the perfect ITX case
yeah imagine just two more cases down the line (:
Vertical style NCase M1 incoming
So close to a 10/10, if they just also included the larger feet. I want to build in this next or well by that time I hope they make an updated 2nd version.
exactly, such a high quality case deserves some feet
Pretty good case indeed. I wish they had version where both sides are solid steel plates (no window or mesh) so that the case could be build to push air directly from front to back without leakage to the sides.
Got mine in two days ago. Worth the wait for the Canadian release. Super versatile, well-built, great thermals and sexy design
If the NR200P, or the H1 didn't exist, I'd be all over this.
Still, any mini-ITX case that allows fitting an ATX power-supply is an automatic win. 👌
The PCI gen 4 riser variant of this case is sold on Newegg. My brother just built a new system in that spec (I can confirm as I was present for the build)
I was really disappointed that I couldn't use my GPU horizontally due to the riser cable because it was a point that Meshilicious advertised and a lot of other reviewers highlighted but you guys are the only ones that pointed out that out of the box, you can't use an ITX GPU horizontally.
I don't blame them for not including the cable but I do blame them for neither making it easy to find out at all that this isn't a configuration you can do right out of the box (when they were pretty thorough about other configurations and limitations) nor providing an option to buy the cable. I tried to get help from customer service and they kept on insisting twice that you could buy it from them. FYI, if you're in NA, you can't buy a riser cable from them, so you're fucked unless you chance it with a third-party riser.
I bought the case and components with the hope I could have some extra storage with the storage bracket but I was forced to do a build without the riser cable I wanted because I didn't know that it wouldn't be possible out of the box and I was nervous of compatibility from buying it from somewhere else. Customer service was unhelpful as shit because I can't buy it from them and they didn't tell me where I could buy it with assurance of compatibility.
They should have been more upfront about it.
How could you even install your GPU horizontally? It's designed so that the gpu is installed vertical (sandwich mode). Or maybe I'm confused on what you're talking about.
Someone didn’t read properly……
Love this case. Just got a 90 degree displayport 1.4 adapter from lindy and its perfect
Think optimum tech got different Temps when using negative or positive air pressure for the fans... think something might be off.
I was just thinking about that
Have this case with an 11400F + 280mm rad and 6700XT nitro+ and it's amazing. By far the best ITX case out. Also a simple mod which I've done and is definitely worth it is setting the case to 4 slot pcie mode and using 25mm standoffs on the pcie riser screws. This'll allow the psu cables to be routed behind the gpu.
What kind of standoffs did you use?
@@lnt3ch had a brief look might not be 100% accurate. I believe they were M3x25mm metal spacers.
Totally amazing review. Love it. Well detailed and discussed. Looking forward for more mesh cases from case manufacturer.
Happy to hear 🤟
-D.
good God, did RUclips need a proper review of this case's internal layout in the most detail mannered way ever, great job guys! I was lucky enough to get mine on the first drop (delivery delayed of course for about 2 months) but building in this thing sure is tricky.
Just ordered this case on Newegg yesterday. Also ordered the Linkup Ultra PCIe 4.0 Riser Cable on Amazon. Along with some angled Displayport and HDMI extension cables, and some case feet. Looking forward to putting it all together next week. It was really the only one that would fit the DTX motherboard I have (Asus Crosshair VIII Impact AM4).
25mm standoffs for the riser. Allows to route cables behind. With TP panel my temps are very nice in this case. Added a short so people can see what it looks like (re sleeved my own stock cables)
This channel is incredible to watch on a DCI P3 4k Monitor. Great job guys!
yes! so glad to finally see this. i've been waiting for your review. thank you!
Well... Jamming an Arctic Freezer II 280mm was the biggest pain in the 4 letters, while also being my most satisfying achievement when building a PC. Managing the cables alone took me about 3 hours and i had to fully disassemble and reassemble the whole god damned thing 4 times. BUUUT! It was all totally worth it! I love this case. It is as small as my XBox Series X which i sold afterwards. Everything runs super cool and quiet because of the meshing housing. Using this thing for about one year for my Living Room TV (mainly Single Player Story Games and Emulation) i am considering to replace my main Gaming PC with one ITX system. Maybe a Second Meshlicious. My biggest concern, why i haven't done it in the first place were noise and cooling. But i am convinced now.
The white one is sooo clean
Finally we've waited months! And taller case feet should of been included by default, I 100% agree. Please SSUPD just make some taller plastic case feet.
Don't they make angled DP cables?
@@souljastation5463 Yeah but they're too short. 1 metre isn't enough for me and they price them at $25 too
@@Kizzster try to search for it on ebay or aliexpress, you should find something cheap there. Also, you could buy just the angular adapters (whatever they're called), or if the cable is too short, integrate it with an extension.
@@souljastation5463 adapters won't hinder performance in terms of fps right?
@@Kizzster Nope.
Flawless pun at 7:07
You guys have the best case reviews on the webs.
When in doubt look at what the Canucks are up to.
This is the best-looking video I've seen in 2021! OMG! it's just breathtaking!
Thanks thanks 🙏
-D.
Tubes need to be down, unless the radiator top is well above the bend in the tubes.
The p/s clearance solution looked sub-optimal as air bubbles could collect in the tubes rather than the rads
Premiation is gonna be your new best friend in this build 😜
I have this case and I’ll probably never buy another. The layout and build quality are excellent at a $109 price point. I have the TG side on my GPU to showcase it and it looks amazing but I must admit, I notice the sag. As for the cable, I bought a right angled display port off Amazon for $10. 10/10 would recommend.
Maaan it came yesterday in my mail!
I did not expect such quality case
Wait what? What do you mean the Gen4 pcie isn’t available? That’s literally what I ordered off newegg 🤔
Oh man. I've been waiting so much for this.
It’s an amazing case and I’ve been very happy with it. It might be even easier to build in than the NR200.
Wiring is easy but making your cable management look good is kinda tough. Especially if you’re using any 2.5” drives or have an aio with a bunch of cables coming out of it.
Keeps my 5800 (which is notorious for running hot) at around 80c on load. 3070 has never gone past 80c either.
For the price I think it’s the iTX case to beat this year.
To have the perfect case I just need to sit my NR200 on the front panel, because I prefer using less footprint on a desk, and it makes IO more accessible overall ;)
I'm really excited for this case but for me personally I want it in a horizontal orientation. I like the way it looks plus I'm an idiot and need it to be tipover-proof
In the UK we can preorder the black/white full mesh model with the PCIe 4 riser. Expecting to arrive/deliver towards the end of Sep 2021.
Absolutely solid case, love mine.
Interesting results with fan orientation. Anybody else try out exhaust vs intake fans?
So it's a nice looking, good performing case with a bunch of little issues and some serious compatibility concerns that may or may not be addressed in the owners manual.
I'm glad I'm not an ITX guy, it seems like there are so many pitfalls to building a tiny box.
An extra usb 3.0 and longer riser cable are the first two changes they should make.
Dmitri: You can buy this case on Newegg.
Newegg: Bundles ITX case with an ATX power supply, E-ATX Motherboard, a pair of headphones, and a used Toyota Corolla.
I wish it has more length to fit a thicker radiator, and would include a longer PCIe 4.0 riser, and an angled DP cable...
This is definitely a contender for the best
A comparison with SV540 would be nice. For custom cooling I think the SV540 is better since it already has a bracket for the pump.
Does the tempered glass panel version alter temps much?
Also curious about this.
AKA dust collector hahahahaha
Look at that holes size in that mesh hahahaha
I've got it some days ago (germany). Simply need some time for my build now.
Love the look of this case. I just wish lower half of the glass was mesh, so that only the mobo area would be glass.
The tower mini from thermaltakeni think is the best looking itx case, like the temps on this but it's not a looker
Thermaltake....
every time i see this SSUPD my brain reads it as SPUD
That's better than STUPID
Surprised that it can fit an ATX PSU, very nice!
Impressive despite a few shortcomings.
Nice case, consider maybe in the future.
So clean bro!!!!
Love the case but 90 degree video cables are either very hard to fine (HDMI) or impossible (displayport) and a huge deterrent to buying this case.
It took me a few seconds on ebay
Does it fit inside a norman backpack?
I'm waiting for Purolator to drop mine off today 😊
Hi just want to point out that the white version also has the pcie gen 4 riser. I bought it myself on newegg.
Nice review Dmitri! Always love the case content. I have to question how you've chosen to route the pci extension cable over the top instead of folding from the bottom, this might solve your issue at 6:00 bro
I'm thinking the same, maybe it should go to motherboard first, then to the slot
Case maker is sponsoring everyone
They should have made the case 20 dollars more expensive. Including a longer riser for short gpus, given it tall feet and an additional 90° display port cable. I would have bought it in a heartbeat
Best itx case.
Just got mine.
It's definitely a nice looking case to me, I'd get it but I have the H1 so I'd have to figure out a way to sell that which won't be easy.
I want to buy your light bars in your background! Happy to use your affiliate link!
I am happy with the NR200..This one has got issues
Was debating between this and NCase M1, but had enough headache with bottom facing cables with NZXT H1. Not sure I am a fan of motherboard IO position on this one neither.
Love the look of this case, would love to see your opinions on the similar Aigo Yogo S1 (especially as top mounting the GPU I/O resolves the issue you have here).
00:45 Sold in Store974 in Qatar
The GPU port issue is kind of a deal breaker for me, I don't have a 3D printer and I use a 40 foot HDMI cable so I'd have to buy a 90 HDMI adapter...
Dimitri...long time no see...
2:23 Ahh, the old Lian Li problem, gluing the mounting plate to the TG. I've had this problem on 3 different Lian Li cases. Absolutely horrible, they won't even try to fix it. One of the main reasons I stopped buying Lian Li
Looks like its limited to certain parts, definitely sucks they make u buy exhaust fan mounts and legs, One major design flaw is appears the GPU vertical mount is too close the pci slots covers in back which means you cant easily buy some pci slot covers with built in usb and hdmi ports to extend and aesthetically mount so u can plug and play freely But force you to have to run cables through a small exposed ugly hole, It looks like they have enough room to mount the GPU over to the left more so you could utilize the pci slots.
I wish there was a version with support for a 360 rad 🥺
This cabinet is designed more like an ITX framing enclosure. Still, it surely works fine for stacking the components.
Could you leave one panel off and have a Scythe Fuma 2 sticking out the side?
What no damn good & damn innovative award? This deserves both in spades.
Could you also do some recommendations regarding builds with air and water cooling and performance and compare both? :)
Nice review, I think the critiques aren't much though since anybody building SFF already knows it costs more in general than a normal ATX build. The cable thing is also easily fixed by buying angled cables or buying higher case feet.
Anyone has any solution for the gpu mounting stem blocking the DP connector (mentioned at 7:28)?
You could buy a low profile (and angled) DP cable (if they exist) or shave off the plastic part of the connector that conflicts with the stem.
Hey Dimitri. Can you please review the Gigabyte Aorus C700 glass cabinet?
I'll watch MKBHD for phone reviews, and Hardware Canucks for PC reviews
Any deal-breaking reason this rig wouldn't work laying horizonally? With feet attached the long side instead.
I wish the case comes with right angled display cable
Mine just arrived.
I bought some L-shaped DP dongle, but they faced toward the mobo side and I could not put a cable into them T..T off to look for one that is better.
Great review, I've been eyeing this case! Can it fit full or mid-size ATX motherboards, or is this only for mini-ATX/ITX boards?
Mini itx
This would be my case if mine gaming x trio would fit. It doesn't fits so i went for the NR200.
This should have been a cautioned not for kids content. 😂😂👏👏
1:52 Can someone tell me one is the case on the left of the Meshlicious there? Thanks for putting it next to the Corsair One as well, I am looking for a case that more or less matches the volume and shape of the Corsair one.
Ah, found it: for anyone wondering, it's louqe's Raw S1
please build a custom water-loop in it , with a guide !
I have the pcie4 version mesh from newegg got it a month ago planning to build a ryzen 5800x and waiting for msi 3080ti coming in a few days.
The case is actually only hard to get in the U.S. Its available everywhere else really, got mine from Australia and I dont even live there. But yeah just got done building in it for the second time because it is NOT a fun case to build in for me. SO frustrating.
@Nam Nguyen Yeah definitely not unattainable like any of the Louqe or Ncase m1 shit.