I kinda dig it. Love how cool the meshlicious was because of it being surrounded by mesh panels. And i also love a traditional PC layout and not having to use a riser cable.
Revenant from Small Form Factor Network here: Great review. I like that you don't mask the challenges of SFF. A lot of people don't realize that it's not just plug and play with these cases, and that you have research the components that you have to put in them. For something like this, you would probably need to find a right angle adapter or a GPU with a recessed power plug.
Hello, thanks for sharing. I've been using.this case.for a few months now. Even installed a dual 240mm rad custom loop. The build quality is only acceptable. Now Im convinced that they had budet oriented builds in mind. Because you dont need any intake or exhaust fans to keep it cool, because of so much natural airflow. 😊
why cant anyone in their right mind just take this layout and flip the case 90 degree with io facing downwards and intake from front for gpu and bottom for cpu with a large 140mm exhaust at top with support for matx mobs and atx psus. this is the most win, win and practical space saving vertical case design in my opinion.
I love that cooler. I built mine with the Thermalright Ss135, I also have the Thermalright SI-100 (only 100mm high) and will give you the same performance as SS135.
I use that cooler in my Thermaltake Core V1 because it's the only dual tower cooler with a 120mm fan that can fit in it. Cools my 5700G to a constant 60C with a full load. Granted, it's overkill for an 8-core AM4 APU, but the price-to-performance ratio on this cooler is insane.
I think this is one of the best cases they've ever made. This is aimed at the average consumer that wants a ssf case. No water cooling with massive rads just good ole reliable air cooling and decent specs. All most people need is an i5/i7 and 4060/3070 (around there) and they can play 90% of games with a decent 240hz monitor. That is what 90% of people go for.
@@noelrobles6334the source is the designer himself :) That’s a known story: W360 (person behind Formd T1) designed meshlicious for SSUPD. Something happened and they parted ways, while W360 suing the SSUPD. Btw, did you notice the change from “meshlicious” to “meshroom”? 😃 Did you think it just happened without any reason?
This is valid for every case in the market. They stand in awe of small cases performing better, because they don't know even the basics: cooler air intake = lower temps. They just fixate in "airflow".
gygabite aorus z690I UL D4, 32gb led corsair 3000mhz cl5 ram, 2x2tb Solidigm p44pro nvme ssds, intel i5-12-400 (65tdp), Thermalright SI-100 CPU cooler, GPU RX 5500 oem (I dont game...video and foto, compress and uncompress a lot of files), I have 2 slim TL-C12015b fans as bottom intake, 1 Bequiet silent wings 4 140 and a Silverstone Vista 140 as side intake. at 25c ambient, at idle cpu stays at 27c and gpu at 34c with 2 monitors. full load the cpu 57c, gpu 65c. 2 ssds never go above 45c. -all fans are set at 850rpm. @@denisnatera3633
I was using a huge full tower, and then got a small tower like this. Man you save so much space on your desk with this setup. Rocking a 4070ti super with 12600k.
honestly, this case does caught my eye at the first just by seeing it on the picture of thumbnail... but, after finishing the video, it disappointed me a lot... I mean, just look at the design...they have the good start but.... ended up with this... why...just why...they almost done this right... overall, looks like a "from perfect to screw up" case for me... and also, the price... oh no no no~
The only thing this case has going for it is the front panel type C connector....over the NR200P. Maybe a bit better for placing radiators in different spots but if thats important get an NR200P MAX. They tried to do an NR200P and they succeeded...badly. Thanks for the review.
If you would READ THE MANUAL, the GPU would fit... I clearly shows you how to temporarly remove the corner post. ALSO, it shows which standoff to use so the motherboard will not flex. The "D" is for duh...
This could be epic for dual rad custom loop. But if the quality is really bad then i don't know man. Atleast thanks for keeping it real. You are very few who actually does negative reviews unlike 99% of youtube.
I typically really enjoy your reviews, but not entirely sure what may have caused you to be a bit biased on this one. It could be related to the communication issues with their marketing team and not getting the proper adapters in your hands, which is understandable to a degree. But I think this case is very good for specific purposes, and as with any SFF build, it's about finding the case that best fits your specific hardware and needs. There's no "one shoe fits all" in the SFF world, and I think this model has taken some good parts out of the NR200P and getting it to a similar litter volume to the Terra. I do wish it was slightly wider to fit FE cards properly though, even though it's possible with aftermarket braided cables. I also ordered Corsair's new adapter bridge to try out and see if it sits better than a cable, fingers crossed!
@@GearSeekers I agree, I feel a lot of these complaints aren't really worth it. "Oh no the panels are a little bit to hard to pull off" okay? thats such a mild issue- you'll open it maybe once every 3 months to dust it. "Oh no its a copy of the NR200" The NR200 was a copy "Oh no it cant support 4080 super" This is a budget style case, most people are not going to be putting that in this case. Conclusion "It's not to bad, I think its a pretty solid case, but I fucking hate it"
@@GearSeekers I have to disagree with you here. a lot of other reviewers did touch on the subjects you've said are issues but I feel for some reason you blew these out of proportion- same with the thumbnail and title of the video. Did you have a bad day when you were recording this? honest to god question.
I'm so glad they did not just copy the NR200P! Because in my NR200P I have problems fitting 2x 280 Rads, in the Meshroom D it should work. My NR200P is absolutely crammed with a 280 on the side and a 140 at the bottom, with only millimeters of gap between GPU Waterblock and Slim Fan! I could just copy/paste my components into the Meshroom D and it would leave much more of a gap AND allow for a 280 in the bottom as well. It's the perfect evolution of the NR200P for everyone using full custom loop and dual Rads! ...at least in my humble and not to relevant opinion... 😉 I'm gonna get one!
The product was found over on their website over a year ago, so I can't for sure say that it was rushed. Considering it's missing the spine that is found on the meshlicious and meshroom veritical cases I can see it feeling less premium than those cases and it should be cheaper considering a riser card is not required. Still with its flaws I might check it out.
I feel like this is what happens when a company tries to push a design language without involving the original designer. The internals look like a less compatible NR200.
I wouldn't worry too much about chassis rigidity. I don't plan on dropping my pc. It's not really something I worry about and once it's all together it's rigid enough. I can see the motherboard flexing as a problem as some users could possibly make that mistake. They could place the case on it's side and tighten the motherboard down in a star pattern and it should help installation.
Kinda love/hate the lack of front panel audio. A bit annoying if you have wired headphones to have to use the back jack on the motherboard. However, that is less annoying than trying to route a cable from the front through the entire case and plug it in on the farthest possible point on the motherboard when you are dealing with limited spaces.
I agree with you. I built on it yesterday, and the build quality is nothing like the others... Also when ordering, they dont give you the option to buy the Extender Bracket. I had to go from matx down to mini itx because bracket is not in stock now. I.dont understand whats going on....
you should do this review again with a retail version. Ive never understood why people review prerelease units like this. this video and the title made me think this case sucks, but every other reviewer online raves about it.
You mean to tell me after months of day dreaming about the meshiclouis they release a new version of the mesh room. Now that I come back to this case. This case reminds me of a newer and harder case than the Cougar QBX
Disappointing about the build quality. It does look like a much more compact case compared to the NR200. My guess is $199AUD! even at $170 it would be hard to choose is over the the NR200 for $109AUD. I do like it but if I were to change cases from the NR200 I would choose the Meshroom S over this. You can't compete with the NR200, unless you make a cheaper one.
I still think it is a NR200P alternative. Although it is more expensive, it is also much smaller than the NR200P and perfect for air cooling（for it's size).
Great breakdown, but i dont think side panels flex is ever a consideration to consumers. Maybe it will become one when the space is completely saturated in both designs and price, but thats too far from the current state.
I got an idea for the CPU cooling, you can add another 12 cm fan in the back of the cooler to replace the small rear fan, should have better performance and less noise.
Nice looking case, I'm just not a fan of having to give my PC a reach around to the back of the case to access the power button. I made the mistake of buying a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX for the Meshlicius and it was a little too chunky to fit in the chassis.
As someone looking for a small form factor mesh case in a squared design (imo the curves and really overall design of nr200p is hideous) that can utilize an air cooler like the nh-d12l, this case checks off all my boxes! Hope the quality issues don’t persist though…
Did you end buying this case with that air cooler? Ive seen another video where the panel do close but it almost about to go off because of the cooler height
@@denisnatera3633 Hey yes I did buy it, I've been using it daily for almost 2 months now with zero issues. The NH-d12l has no issue fitting with the panel on, I can even push down on the panel over the cooler and there is even room for flex. The only things I'd note as far as fitment is I had to be careful with cable management for the back panel to fit properly, and I'm only running a 3080ti which is much slimmer than the newer series.
My only issue with SSDUPD is the limited availability of the Meshroom S and Meshilicious. I can ONLY find the D rn. Between that and the sloppy execution critiqued here, I'm wondering if the company is in dire straits. 🤦🏿♂️
This looked like a great mini ITX or air cooling, but the fact that the height is so limited just ruins air cooling since pretty much all good coolers are taller than that. 15 extra millimiters and it would have been excellent, no idea why they limited it to 142.
Nooooo! I really wanted to love this case. Looking for an “ITX” case to transplant my m-Atx gear out of my unicorn vomit case into something more small and sleek without cooking it.
You've got 3 fans too much. Those 2 fans under the GPU are affecting your airflow big time. Same for the one in the very back, near the CPU. You never layer fans unless they run in sync and rotate in the same direction, else you're simply messing around.
The panel rigidity is what might rule this case out for me. I like my cases to feel very solid. Micro ATX option does intrigue me, though. 🤔And yes, you are channelling Gordon very well there 15:55 😁
could the case be oriented upsidedown, moving the feet to the top? move the front IO from bottom to top (if the case is oriented upside down, then it will be at the bottom again, near the PSU). with this orientation, dual radiator water cool air flow would be so much better, and could this use the iceman external watercool reservoir pump that is used in meshlicious? the configuration would have been so sick..
I have a question that decides If I buy and try this Case. Does the glas panel fit with this cooler? I have a liquid cooled Meshroom S with a RTX 3070 Noctua and I'm not sure if I should change to an air cooled Meshroom D with glas side panel.
once you go why not longer, you could also go why not wider and taller to accommodate all the high end parts I wanted to put in. Then this ITX case is no more.
@@purplecrayon7281 True, but they could have literally added 2cm to the length and allowed for much more flexibility with GPUs. I get your point, but this would have comfortably remained in the ITX form factor with that little adjustment.
@@nicholastaylor9375 This is why I love ITX cases. Any noob can build in a 50L EATX case, but ITX cases require you to be creative, making tradeoffs between functionality and aesthetics. Once you increase the length by 2 cm, the entire aesthetics of the case have changed, and you are better off just buying an ATX mid tower.
Wish they had flipped it so video card faces up. Bearings just work batter that way. I don't get why the fans on video cards have the bearings set up the way they do.
could you just mount an mATX motherboard without the extending bracket? there's four holes for the standoffs that already line up with the motherboard. is that not enough support?
This is very similar in size and layout to the Dan C4-SFX. About 90% of the builds I have seen in the C4 are all using 4080/4090 FE, the fact that you can't fit the 4080/4090 FE in this case is going to be a huge mistake I think. Well the FE does technically fit but you can't plug in a power connector and have the side panel on. Shame that their quality is being sacrificed for price.
With the NR200 already dominating the mainstream ITX chassis market, they should have gone with the extender bracket included by default and marketed this as an mATX case. The AP201 is selling like hotcakes and there is definitely a growing market for compact mATX cases.
I feel like this Ncase design is really at the end of its life here, the gpu sitting this close to the desk is not really a good idea for these big and powerful card we have these days, the C4sfx with the reverse setup that puts the gpu on the top it’s the way to go in the future.
Thanks for the video! Well, it seems you are absolutly right: If you do a NR200-"clone", you have to do it better. I am not a great fan of the NR200, but it is very good for its price. I thing SSUPD could have made a very much better way to the design ideas. Maybe they will explain why they did it that way...
A shame to hear of the quality issues. I really wish new ITX cases were being made large enough, if even slightly, to fit 40 series GPU's (other than just FE's and Pro Art's).
@@jamesmcmahonii8433 There have been a few for sure. I have a 4080 FE in my NR200 and it fits perfectly. Just seems like these high profile case manufacturers like SSUPD and Corsair putting out new ITX cases and limiting the GPU fitment is a step backwards when the difference is only a few centimeters.
I really dont like where they put the power plug and the power button the power plug couldve easily been moved to the bottom corner instead of overtop the gpu, and the power button couldve been on the front with the other io
I agree, I feel a lot of these complaints aren't really worth it. "Oh no the panels are a little bit to hard to pull off" okay? thats such a mild issue- you'll open it maybe once every 3 months to dust it. "Oh no its a copy of the NR200" The NR200 was a copy "Oh no it cant support 4080 super" This is a budget style case, most people are not going to be putting that in this case. Conclusion "It's not to bad, I think its a pretty solid case, but I fucking hate it" Show me on the doll where the Meshroom D touched you.
GPU compatibility is so limitied, good for 3000s series and 4070 Ti and below, rarely any 4080/4090 will fit in this, maybe only the FE version and MSI Ventus 4080/4090 would fit
I kinda dig it. Love how cool the meshlicious was because of it being surrounded by mesh panels. And i also love a traditional PC layout and not having to use a riser cable.
Exactly!! I dig it too! Though i would have preferred a smaller case but its ok.
@@redalcatel27 me too. I wonder if what he says about the IO shield and motherboard is true in all situations. Well, I’ll find out.
Revenant from Small Form Factor Network here: Great review. I like that you don't mask the challenges of SFF. A lot of people don't realize that it's not just plug and play with these cases, and that you have research the components that you have to put in them. For something like this, you would probably need to find a right angle adapter or a GPU with a recessed power plug.
Hello, thanks for sharing. I've been using.this case.for a few months now. Even installed a dual 240mm rad custom loop. The build quality is only acceptable. Now Im convinced that they had budet oriented builds in mind. Because you dont need any intake or exhaust fans to keep it cool, because of so much natural airflow. 😊
why cant anyone in their right mind just take this layout and flip the case 90 degree with io facing downwards and intake from front for gpu and bottom for cpu with a large 140mm exhaust at top with support for matx mobs and atx psus. this is the most win, win and practical space saving vertical case design in my opinion.
Probably exists from another brand
Another good air cooler for this case is the Thermalright Silver Soul 135 at 135mm in height. Thank you for showing the build with an air cooler.
I love that cooler. I built mine with the Thermalright Ss135, I also have the Thermalright SI-100 (only 100mm high) and will give you the same performance as SS135.
I use that cooler in my Thermaltake Core V1 because it's the only dual tower cooler with a 120mm fan that can fit in it. Cools my 5700G to a constant 60C with a full load. Granted, it's overkill for an 8-core AM4 APU, but the price-to-performance ratio on this cooler is insane.
I think this is one of the best cases they've ever made. This is aimed at the average consumer that wants a ssf case. No water cooling with massive rads just good ole reliable air cooling and decent specs. All most people need is an i5/i7 and 4060/3070 (around there) and they can play 90% of games with a decent 240hz monitor. That is what 90% of people go for.
if you only play comp games
At least they didn’t totally rip off and refuse to pay their Meshlicious designer this time
I can’t find the article to validate this. Do you have a source for the story?
@@noelrobles6334the source is the designer himself :)
That’s a known story: W360 (person behind Formd T1) designed meshlicious for SSUPD. Something happened and they parted ways, while W360 suing the SSUPD.
Btw, did you notice the change from “meshlicious” to “meshroom”? 😃
Did you think it just happened without any reason?
@@noelrobles6334It's just a rumor.
Nick, the SSUPD guy :P . It´s great seeing someone doing reviews and builds off SFF cases.
I think flipping the cpu cooler fan orientation so its pulling cool air in from the rear would give you better temps.
This is valid for every case in the market. They stand in awe of small cases performing better, because they don't know even the basics: cooler air intake = lower temps. They just fixate in "airflow".
I tried that and it did give me better temps (5c lower)
@@elteacher0223 You mind telling me wich air cooler you used? and your overall setup?
gygabite aorus z690I UL D4, 32gb led corsair 3000mhz cl5 ram, 2x2tb Solidigm p44pro nvme ssds, intel i5-12-400 (65tdp), Thermalright SI-100 CPU cooler, GPU RX 5500 oem (I dont game...video and foto, compress and uncompress a lot of files), I have 2 slim TL-C12015b fans as bottom intake, 1 Bequiet silent wings 4 140 and a Silverstone Vista 140 as side intake. at 25c ambient, at idle cpu stays at 27c and gpu at 34c with 2 monitors. full load the cpu 57c, gpu 65c. 2 ssds never go above 45c. -all fans are set at 850rpm.
@@denisnatera3633
I was using a huge full tower, and then got a small tower like this. Man you save so much space on your desk with this setup. Rocking a 4070ti super with 12600k.
If NR200 and AP201 have a child :
Thanks for all the great videos.. 5am here in Kansas. Yes I work nights and will be off shift in 40 minutes. cheers.
honestly, this case does caught my eye at the first just by seeing it on the picture of thumbnail... but, after finishing the video, it disappointed me a lot... I mean, just look at the design...they have the good start but.... ended up with this... why...just why...they almost done this right... overall, looks like a "from perfect to screw up" case for me... and also, the price... oh no no no~
Love your honest review. That's what matters for us viewers :)
*We get it the Mesh D for whatever reason isn't your cup of tea ☕ what about the Mesh S?*
We already reviewed it
The only thing this case has going for it is the front panel type C connector....over the NR200P. Maybe a bit better for placing radiators in different spots but if thats important get an NR200P MAX. They tried to do an NR200P and they succeeded...badly. Thanks for the review.
The NR200p is also a bigger case. If you already have components that will fir in this all the complaints pretty much dont apply
more like a NR200 non-p version.
This case is only $100 though
i want this so bad lol great job guys
Hope you get the MATX expansion and I’d like to see how it compares to the ASUS MATX case
If you would READ THE MANUAL, the GPU would fit... I clearly shows you how to temporarly remove the corner post. ALSO, it shows which standoff to use so the motherboard will not flex. The "D" is for duh...
Tbf, he said in the video that the manual they received was for the wrong case.
White case on a white table ,with a pink background Nick ? My eyes.
And it made you comment 🤣
True, but see my other comments on this,they compliment YOU.
This could be epic for dual rad custom loop. But if the quality is really bad then i don't know man.
Atleast thanks for keeping it real. You are very few who actually does negative reviews unlike 99% of youtube.
I typically really enjoy your reviews, but not entirely sure what may have caused you to be a bit biased on this one. It could be related to the communication issues with their marketing team and not getting the proper adapters in your hands, which is understandable to a degree. But I think this case is very good for specific purposes, and as with any SFF build, it's about finding the case that best fits your specific hardware and needs. There's no "one shoe fits all" in the SFF world, and I think this model has taken some good parts out of the NR200P and getting it to a similar litter volume to the Terra. I do wish it was slightly wider to fit FE cards properly though, even though it's possible with aftermarket braided cables. I also ordered Corsair's new adapter bridge to try out and see if it sits better than a cable, fingers crossed!
There is no bias here. The case is genuinely awful.
@@GearSeekers "Awful".. really? Agree to disagree I suppose!
lol awful is stretching it@@GearSeekers
@@GearSeekers I agree, I feel a lot of these complaints aren't really worth it.
"Oh no the panels are a little bit to hard to pull off" okay? thats such a mild issue- you'll open it maybe once every 3 months to dust it.
"Oh no its a copy of the NR200" The NR200 was a copy
"Oh no it cant support 4080 super" This is a budget style case, most people are not going to be putting that in this case.
Conclusion "It's not to bad, I think its a pretty solid case, but I fucking hate it"
@@GearSeekers I have to disagree with you here. a lot of other reviewers did touch on the subjects you've said are issues but I feel for some reason you blew these out of proportion- same with the thumbnail and title of the video. Did you have a bad day when you were recording this? honest to god question.
I'm so glad they did not just copy the NR200P! Because in my NR200P I have problems fitting 2x 280 Rads, in the Meshroom D it should work. My NR200P is absolutely crammed with a 280 on the side and a 140 at the bottom, with only millimeters of gap between GPU Waterblock and Slim Fan! I could just copy/paste my components into the Meshroom D and it would leave much more of a gap AND allow for a 280 in the bottom as well. It's the perfect evolution of the NR200P for everyone using full custom loop and dual Rads! ...at least in my humble and not to relevant opinion... 😉 I'm gonna get one!
You're right. If Gordon watched all the way til the end, he'd be shaking his head 😂
The product was found over on their website over a year ago, so I can't for sure say that it was rushed. Considering it's missing the spine that is found on the meshlicious and meshroom veritical cases I can see it feeling less premium than those cases and it should be cheaper considering a riser card is not required. Still with its flaws I might check it out.
the sound of Klaire eating crisps in the b roll is awesome. lol
I feel like this is what happens when a company tries to push a design language without involving the original designer. The internals look like a less compatible NR200.
💯💯
Banger of a video fams. Case looks great minus some of the hiccups. Keep up the hard work.
As I was thinking of Asus ap201 matx build , this came in 😊
Thanks bro 👍
if you are looking for a mATX build, the Jonsbo D31 has been getting good reviews.
Only, if you want to go matx with this, you have to wait for extender bracket, they are out of stock now
I wouldn't worry too much about chassis rigidity. I don't plan on dropping my pc. It's not really something I worry about and once it's all together it's rigid enough. I can see the motherboard flexing as a problem as some users could possibly make that mistake. They could place the case on it's side and tighten the motherboard down in a star pattern and it should help installation.
Kinda love/hate the lack of front panel audio. A bit annoying if you have wired headphones to have to use the back jack on the motherboard. However, that is less annoying than trying to route a cable from the front through the entire case and plug it in on the farthest possible point on the motherboard when you are dealing with limited spaces.
does Nick have a parts list for the build? Would love to know which fans he used, especially at the rear of the case.
The new proart stuff from asus is so sleek! Absolutely love a nice black and clean design without rgb and bunch of unesseray gamery angles and shapes.
I agree with you. I built on it yesterday, and the build quality is nothing like the others... Also when ordering, they dont give you the option to buy the Extender Bracket. I had to go from matx down to mini itx because bracket is not in stock now. I.dont understand whats going on....
you should do this review again with a retail version. Ive never understood why people review prerelease units like this. this video and the title made me think this case sucks, but every other reviewer online raves about it.
You mean to tell me after months of day dreaming about the meshiclouis they release a new version of the mesh room. Now that I come back to this case.
This case reminds me of a newer and harder case than the Cougar QBX
Disappointing about the build quality. It does look like a much more compact case compared to the NR200.
My guess is $199AUD! even at $170 it would be hard to choose is over the the NR200 for $109AUD. I do like it but if I were to change cases from the NR200 I would choose the Meshroom S over this. You can't compete with the NR200, unless you make a cheaper one.
I still think it is a NR200P alternative. Although it is more expensive, it is also much smaller than the NR200P and perfect for air cooling（for it's size).
Like the case and purchased one, I Air cool, running 5700G, 42c normal operations and 62c gaming
Great breakdown, but i dont think side panels flex is ever a consideration to consumers.
Maybe it will become one when the space is completely saturated in both designs and price, but thats too far from the current state.
Now working at a sheet metal factory has opened my eyes to how quality can slip through the cracks. F
Thank you for doing a review of this case!
This case is great advertising for the NR200
I really dont get why people are not liking this because the button is on the back. Once you turn your pc on its on.
I got an idea for the CPU cooling, you can add another 12 cm fan in the back of the cooler to replace the small rear fan, should have better performance and less noise.
its a modern NCASE M1 version, I think you can consider reviewing FormD T1 v2.1
WASSUPD Nick and Klaire?
Nice looking case, I'm just not a fan of having to give my PC a reach around to the back of the case to access the power button. I made the mistake of buying a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX for the Meshlicius and it was a little too chunky to fit in the chassis.
At least you got the cable management more organize
As someone looking for a small form factor mesh case in a squared design (imo the curves and really overall design of nr200p is hideous) that can utilize an air cooler like the nh-d12l, this case checks off all my boxes! Hope the quality issues don’t persist though…
Did you end buying this case with that air cooler? Ive seen another video where the panel do close but it almost about to go off because of the cooler height
@@denisnatera3633 Hey yes I did buy it, I've been using it daily for almost 2 months now with zero issues. The NH-d12l has no issue fitting with the panel on, I can even push down on the panel over the cooler and there is even room for flex. The only things I'd note as far as fitment is I had to be careful with cable management for the back panel to fit properly, and I'm only running a 3080ti which is much slimmer than the newer series.
@@hlsby Hi do you have fans on the bottom and what 3080ti do you have? Thank you.
@@user-ip4lq7cm7w no fans in the bottom, and an evga xc3 3080ti
Looks awesome
where on earth can u get founders cards in Australia?
My only issue with SSDUPD is the limited availability of the Meshroom S and Meshilicious. I can ONLY find the D rn. Between that and the sloppy execution critiqued here, I'm wondering if the company is in dire straits. 🤦🏿♂️
Ah making my Windows 98 builds look great!
patiently waiting for the TD500 v2 build.
This looked like a great mini ITX or air cooling, but the fact that the height is so limited just ruins air cooling since pretty much all good coolers are taller than that.
15 extra millimiters and it would have been excellent, no idea why they limited it to 142.
Them bottom fans should be exhaust innit
Nooooo! I really wanted to love this case. Looking for an “ITX” case to transplant my m-Atx gear out of my unicorn vomit case into something more small and sleek without cooking it.
Get the NR200P it'd better.
You've got 3 fans too much. Those 2 fans under the GPU are affecting your airflow big time. Same for the one in the very back, near the CPU. You never layer fans unless they run in sync and rotate in the same direction, else you're simply messing around.
The panel rigidity is what might rule this case out for me. I like my cases to feel very solid. Micro ATX option does intrigue me, though. 🤔And yes, you are channelling Gordon very well there 15:55 😁
Feels like a rush product , no thought behind it no innovation etc . Just another meh case .
Just got one of these, unopened, from an auction for $16 😂 I don’t even have components for it.
Its missing around 2,5 cm in width for GPU support and CPU cooler support.
could the case be oriented upsidedown, moving the feet to the top? move the front IO from bottom to top (if the case is oriented upside down, then it will be at the bottom again, near the PSU). with this orientation, dual radiator water cool air flow would be so much better, and could this use the iceman external watercool reservoir pump that is used in meshlicious? the configuration would have been so sick..
Only if it came with the extender bracket. It doesn't make competition just being the ITX variant.
I have a question that decides If I buy and try this Case. Does the glas panel fit with this cooler? I have a liquid cooled Meshroom S with a RTX 3070 Noctua and I'm not sure if I should change to an air cooled Meshroom D with glas side panel.
I heard the same thing about their other cases having poor qa, shame cause I really like this case and the S cause the green looks so good
Great vid! Can you review the Jonsbo U4 Mini? Thanks!
I don't get why they wouldn't make it just a little bit longer so that it could support bigger GPUs, doesn't really make sense imo.
once you go why not longer, you could also go why not wider and taller to accommodate all the high end parts I wanted to put in. Then this ITX case is no more.
@@purplecrayon7281 True, but they could have literally added 2cm to the length and allowed for much more flexibility with GPUs. I get your point, but this would have comfortably remained in the ITX form factor with that little adjustment.
@@nicholastaylor9375 This is why I love ITX cases. Any noob can build in a 50L EATX case, but ITX cases require you to be creative, making tradeoffs between functionality and aesthetics. Once you increase the length by 2 cm, the entire aesthetics of the case have changed, and you are better off just buying an ATX mid tower.
@@purplecrayon7281 just 2cm longer, wider and taller...then it can fits 50% more gpus, all the air coolers and two thick top fans
@@vladhristev481 Yes but once you do that, might as well turn the case into a mATX. The Jonsbo D31 is what you described.
why cant they keep the sandwich layout :/
Will a Rtx 3090 fits in it ? I’m concerned about the connector placement
Yes, my Eaglr OC 3090 fits
Wish they had flipped it so video card faces up. Bearings just work batter that way. I don't get why the fans on video cards have the bearings set up the way they do.
What do you mean? Lol you can flip the case, unscrew the feet and put them on top, flip it and your done lmao
@@xokin156 Have you actually done this, or are you talking in theory?
@@Mikenperu no I did it, it’s 100% possible, it is just that the case itself doesn’t get much attention. Well it has it flaws.
Meshlicious still the best one they did
you are a good reviewer, thanks for the feedback. how do you feel this case would do with a custom loop?
could you just mount an mATX motherboard without the extending bracket? there's four holes for the standoffs that already line up with the motherboard. is that not enough support?
It's a Disappointment because it's the only one not for sale in Europe.
This is very similar in size and layout to the Dan C4-SFX. About 90% of the builds I have seen in the C4 are all using 4080/4090 FE, the fact that you can't fit the 4080/4090 FE in this case is going to be a huge mistake I think. Well the FE does technically fit but you can't plug in a power connector and have the side panel on. Shame that their quality is being sacrificed for price.
So... no SSUPD / NR200P for an ASUS 4090... can you please recommend me an mini-ITX case that works with this GPU ?
With the NR200 already dominating the mainstream ITX chassis market, they should have gone with the extender bracket included by default and marketed this as an mATX case. The AP201 is selling like hotcakes and there is definitely a growing market for compact mATX cases.
Its only an ITX case. You're not getting a 3.5 inch card in there with an mATX mobo.
I feel like this Ncase design is really at the end of its life here, the gpu sitting this close to the desk is not really a good idea for these big and powerful card we have these days, the C4sfx with the reverse setup that puts the gpu on the top it’s the way to go in the future.
Too bad the sample didn't seem to be up to snuff. Did they shrink the Meshlicious and just put it on its side?
Do you plan on reviewing the Meshroom D with the extender bracket?
Not too many small form factor, small footprint cases that can use Micro-ATX. Even with quirks, it's great to see cases like this.
If they just made it one inch longer and deeper, it would have fit all 4090.
But nope..
Thanks for the video! Well, it seems you are absolutly right: If you do a NR200-"clone", you have to do it better. I am not a great fan of the NR200, but it is very good for its price. I thing SSUPD could have made a very much better way to the design ideas. Maybe they will explain why they did it that way...
More of a NCASE M1 V1 through V6 clone. One of the original partners of NCASE (Wahaha360) was involved with SSUPD, it makes sense.
Can you guys do an mATX build in this thing? I was thinking of downsizing my pc before I go abroad for Uni. Thanks!
"Part pickle list." I hope you did that to mess with people, and I'm not just hearing things.
Always hahahaha 😂
110 with out riser
Is basicaly meshalicious
N that was that price with a riser
U say this. Lower quAlity. It should be like 70$
It's a pity that it doesn't properly support matx standard motherboards.
Case manufacturers, combine the SGPC K39 Pro internal design with meshlicious like mesh panels. There, you're welcome
Could motherboard standoffs be lowered a little so that NH-D12L could fit perfectly without touching the side panel?
It doesn't actually touch the side panel
A shame to hear of the quality issues. I really wish new ITX cases were being made large enough, if even slightly, to fit 40 series GPU's (other than just FE's and Pro Art's).
I've seen a number of ITX builds with 4k series on RUclips. The Terra is a great example.
@@jamesmcmahonii8433 There have been a few for sure. I have a 4080 FE in my NR200 and it fits perfectly. Just seems like these high profile case manufacturers like SSUPD and Corsair putting out new ITX cases and limiting the GPU fitment is a step backwards when the difference is only a few centimeters.
I really dont like where they put the power plug and the power button the power plug couldve easily been moved to the bottom corner instead of overtop the gpu, and the power button couldve been on the front with the other io
The build: successful,
Cooling: not too bad at all.
Conclusion: absolutely hated it.
Did I miss something? 😂
It's a huge step backwards in quality
I agree, I feel a lot of these complaints aren't really worth it.
"Oh no the panels are a little bit to hard to pull off" okay? thats such a mild issue- you'll open it maybe once every 3 months to dust it.
"Oh no its a copy of the NR200" The NR200 was a copy
"Oh no it cant support 4080 super" This is a budget style case, most people are not going to be putting that in this case.
Conclusion "It's not to bad, I think its a pretty solid case, but I fucking hate it"
Show me on the doll where the Meshroom D touched you.
Tell "I want a meshroom D" to anybody not knowing about hardware and you get punched in the face or laughed at.
looks like a blatant copy of the nr200. I hope they can improve upon this!
i like it but it like the Meshlicious better
will it fit a 240 cooler ?
GPU compatibility is so limitied, good for 3000s series and 4070 Ti and below, rarely any 4080/4090 will fit in this, maybe only the FE version and MSI Ventus 4080/4090 would fit