Elden Ring: TOP 12 Best DLC Weapons Ranked with OP Builds! (12.3.1)

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  • @AverageGamerMatt
    @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +10

    Be sure to sub! 🤘
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  • @isaacterry2179
    @isaacterry2179 2 месяца назад +16

    I unironically gave you a like on the video because you said “I hope everybody has a wonderful day, the best day that they could possibly have” and it made me smile :) Awesome video the whole way through! ❤

  • @Rich-in6ds
    @Rich-in6ds 2 месяца назад +46

    You missed the Messmer’s Soldier Spear. Not flashy but absolutely one of the top 3 weapons in the DLC. Charged R2 is a double strike that will absolutely BATTER bosses. Has high stagger for a reasonably swift poke and you can pair it with ashes like impaling thrust or piercing fang to hit for massive damage and stagger from absolutely disgusting range making it incredible for punishing all the difficult bosses with their high movement and small punish windows.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +12

      You’re right I forgot about that double charged heavy lol I don’t think it’d make top 5 but it would’ve made this list at least. I’ll add it to a build list soon. Thanks!

    • @jeremy3824
      @jeremy3824 2 месяца назад +1

      100% missed that banger

    • @esincorporated6123
      @esincorporated6123 2 месяца назад +1

      Literally just what the Tree Spear should have been. I love it.

    • @murtaugh1761
      @murtaugh1761 2 месяца назад +3

      I haven’t tried that spear yet, maxing it out and trying it now…

    • @Takintomori
      @Takintomori 2 месяца назад

      ​@@murtaugh1761put Knights Resolve on it and watch as you vaporize boss hp bars

  • @BlackFlameMonk
    @BlackFlameMonk 2 месяца назад +2

    Fire Knight's Greatsword with Flame Spear is my new favorite weapon after GSGS. It works excellently with Sacred Blade against the undead as well.

  • @drudge5268
    @drudge5268 2 месяца назад +2

    For clarity, the Claws of Night ash of war doesn't proc multi-hit talismans. So if you run the build in the video, make sure to hit with the claws a few times to get the damage boost rolling before switching to the ash. If you only plan to use the ash of war and not mix in L1 attacks, run the Smithing Talisman and Ritual Sword Talisman instead.
    As far as your flask, the best damage boost is the Bloodsucking Tear at 20%, but the HP loss can be annoying, and you can't use it with Ritual Sword Talisman for obvious reasons. The next best damage boost is actually the Magic-Shrouding Cracked Tear at 6.7% due to the claws doing around 35% magic damage. In my testing with 75 dex, using the Dexterity Crystal Tear only boosted my ash of war DPS by 4%.
    Personally, when I run the claws vs bosses, I use the Greenburst Crystal Tear for better stamina regen so I can spam the ash and still dodge, and then either Bloodsucking, Thorny, or Magic-Shrouding depending on if I can handle the HP drain / will be using the claws to slash. If I'm fighting a boss in melee range I'll use the multi hit talismans, but if I plan to dodge backward and spam the ash I use the smithing talisman setup.
    Happy clawing

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      Nice! Correct it doesn’t proc multi hit, was just showcasing the ash. The multi hit talismans/tears are for DPS/regular attacks. It has one of (if not the) highest claw DPS in the game. Either way amazing weapon. 🤘

  • @Lucifer2207
    @Lucifer2207 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video Man, here's something I get told quite often and I'm trying to work on for my streams, but we just gotta work on sounding more "in to" the stuff we're talking about. Thank you for all the information you provided in your video though mate, good stuff 🔥

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +2

      @@Lucifer2207 thanks! 🙏 My low energy is due to health issues unfortunately. Appreciate it though 👍

  • @funkyskibo
    @funkyskibo 2 месяца назад

    Hey, Matt. Another excellent video. I thank you greatly for not showing spoilers of the DLC bosses. I still haven't played through the whole game and it disappoints me to see other channels showing all of the DLC bosses. Keep up the great work. You are my favorite Elden Ring content creator.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      @@funkyskibo thank you! 🙏 there is a few spoilers toward the end though lol i have been trying to keep them out but slowly putting the bosses into build videos.

  • @ssjred-lando6649
    @ssjred-lando6649 2 месяца назад +1

    I love to hear more in depth but still concise explanation. Great reviews as always.

  • @Oninzuka_Badjula
    @Oninzuka_Badjula 2 месяца назад

    Great Katana, Milady, Backhand blade love how fromsoft placed these awesome weapons as groundloot that you can get early and carry you through the entire DLS/Game... just like how in DS3 the uchigatana and claymore can be gotten early and also in other fromsoft games there are early pick up weapons that can straight up carry you through an entire playthrough.
    Despite me ranking Fireknight GS, Bloodfiends Arm and Sword lance at S tier and considering them the best in the game, there is just something about early game groundloot/easy pick up weapons that just clicks. Especially if they can carry you through an entire playthrough and have such diverse build possibilities, they're just so compelling and I love going back to them every now and then.

  • @bingbong-et6nz
    @bingbong-et6nz 2 месяца назад +3

    thank god this came out i just saw ragegamings vid just like this and i think i need to cleanse my eyes with holy water (nagakiba was B tier and giant crusher C 🤮) great vid as always definitly need to try some of these

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      Haha thank you! 🙏 yeah Giant Crusher is amazing for STR builds. Nagakiba is one of my favorites. The reach by itself is incredibly helpful.

  • @tateallen9972
    @tateallen9972 2 месяца назад

    I haven’t seen many people acknowledge how good the claws of night are yet, so thanks for giving them some recognition. They absolutely shred. They make the bosses look like a joke

  • @macaroni8273
    @macaroni8273 2 месяца назад +4

    what about Shadow Sunflower Blossom? its very light for a colossal weapon, deals split holy damage (with higher faith scale than strength, i think) and the skill is unbelievably op. it does 3-5k damage without scadoodoo tree blessing if you get all 4 hits in, has enough hyperarmor to withstand a tree sentinel shield bash, and easily combos into smacking again.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +3

      It’s fun for sure, probably just outside my top 12. I’m doing a build for it in my next list video. 🤘

    • @funkyskibo
      @funkyskibo 2 месяца назад +2

      I love the giant sunflower, as well. It absolutely bonks! It's also just fun to smack enemies with a giant flower. 😄

  • @St1ngyy
    @St1ngyy 2 месяца назад +1

    Ok so just a suggestion, If the main damage type doesn’t benefit from a scorpion charm I highly suggest more casual players to go for either Dragoncrest great shield or some other defensive talisman, and in the physick I reccomend opaline hardtear

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      @@St1ngyy Dragoncrest is always good. Keep in mind though in DLC once you have all the fragments, added defense will calculate to less than what you get in the base game.

  • @ROCKhardRICHARD69
    @ROCKhardRICHARD69 2 месяца назад +4

    Thank you for the builds! Best way to start a day off. Building time!

  • @bastardmike47
    @bastardmike47 2 месяца назад

    Quick with no fluff, you earned a sub. Great vid.

  • @moderntimezz8294
    @moderntimezz8294 2 месяца назад +2

    Hey man, been watching for a while, love the builds. You should do like a “top 10 builds to beat final boss” haven’t seen too many videos specified for it and I think it would be great for people struggling

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      I can try lol but rn for most players shield poke is probably still best.

    • @Pullo83
      @Pullo83 2 месяца назад +1

      This would be awesome. I’m out here forced to fall back on Blasphemous or a shield poke and those are just a little old and lost their fun for me.

    • @ROCKhardRICHARD69
      @ROCKhardRICHARD69 2 месяца назад +2

      Thorns and jumping dual bleed blades has definitely worked as well. I've also seen someone use a spirit summon and not attack the fight but can't remember what summon

    • @ericjensen7580
      @ericjensen7580 2 месяца назад +1

      Heavy Guts Greatsword + lionclaw is very good against him...I recorded a kill using those. The blacksteel hammer w/sacred + prayerful strike was also very strong against him. For casters, Ranni's darkmoon and wing of astel are good options. Ansbach's scythe / blinkbolt axes are really great because the l2s give s.
      My advice for people struggling: don't cap your level. I don't think the devs expect people to cap at 125 or even 150. Pump up your endurance so can you keep dodging AND punishing him. For damage talismans try to stick with those that boost many types of attacks as his punish windows differ at the end of each combo, and deflecting tear is your friend. Radhan's rune is probably gonna be the most useful because you need both stamina and hp.
      I found going full defensive and just learning his combos and timings really helped.
      Stick to his right (your left side) foot. He's least likely to X slash here and I've found this position puts you in a good place to dodfe his other attacks. You can reliably dodge it by rolling to the left when his arm rises (his left arm, your right side).

  • @Clay5701
    @Clay5701 2 месяца назад +1

    you think the backhand blades stack up to dual bandits/scavengers? I was testing them out last night and it seemed pretty close in terms of damage. The ash of war on the bb is really fun to mess around with. I'm debating switching to them from my dual bandits for the dlc.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      @@Clay5701 honestly bandits are prob better cause the jumps with seppuku. But I like the ash on backhand blades, and they even carried me during my first DLC run.

  • @janreichenbach265
    @janreichenbach265 2 месяца назад

    Fire Knight's Great sword with Lion's claw as war ash simply rules !

  • @skillspacegaming
    @skillspacegaming 2 месяца назад

    Fire Knight's greatsword is so freakin over powered! I have beaten romina on my first attempt, and gaius and the sunflower were 3 tries. I like the moveset its like the fume knight from ds2

  • @saisampathpotu2578
    @saisampathpotu2578 2 месяца назад +2

    If I wanna try out different types of weapons for the dlc. What do you recommend my stat spread to be versatile? Like str/arc or just faith and change affinity to flame art for theses weapons?

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +2

      @@saisampathpotu2578 so for DLC actually Dexterity & Faith is amazing. There’s so many weapons you can run at even 40 Dex 50-60 faith.

    • @bingbong-et6nz
      @bingbong-et6nz 2 месяца назад +1

      i did str/faith for my first playthrough but dex/faith works just as well if not better. at very high levels obviously quality/faith is best but that took me ages to get to a good level for. kinda depends on the weapons you wanna use. but yeah pretty much anything with faith is very good for dlc

  • @johnk1448
    @johnk1448 2 месяца назад

    For the crafting series; I’ll take a fire knight build at 200. Really enjoy that series.
    If you haven’t played with it give the death knights long shaft axe / blink bolt a try. Wish it felt stronger but enjoyed using it.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      @@johnk1448 thanks! 🙏 I’ll be doing fire knights greatsword soon. 🤘

  • @St1ngyy
    @St1ngyy 2 месяца назад

    Dude I’ve been watching you for so long and just realized I’m not subscribed. You deserve a million

  • @Flarkenbon
    @Flarkenbon Месяц назад

    i have a thinking, i might be wrong and all funny stuff, But you can't have Dryleaf arts and dane's footwork equipped at the same time and do a build with those to?
    well yes you cant use both AoW but it would be kewl :D xD if im wrong in any way please correct me :)

  • @Bred-the-Bread
    @Bred-the-Bread 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for builds that are good but feel fair to use and dont basically 1 shot (except for #1)

  • @danswope5669
    @danswope5669 2 месяца назад

    Great list. My new favorite build are dual blood Milady’s with Wing Stance (Blood blade on the oh). Very fun. Crazy damage. Highly recommend.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +2

      Thank you! 🙏 and solid choice 🤘

    • @AP-qr8en
      @AP-qr8en 2 месяца назад +2

      How do you get a second milady?

    • @FlyinTools
      @FlyinTools 2 месяца назад

      @@AP-qr8enng+ or have someone drop you one

    • @danswope5669
      @danswope5669 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AP-qr8en Just had a friend help me pass from another toon

  • @justinbadey7861
    @justinbadey7861 2 месяца назад

    Fun video Matt! I love the anvil hammer as well. Claws of the night are really cool too. The smithing talisman also rffects the ash of war too. Ive been debating what else to take to plus 10. May do the great spears at 11 and 12.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +2

      @@justinbadey7861 thanks! Try them for sure. Messmer spear is a ton of fun tbh. If you pull off the ash it does great damage too. 🤘

  • @Nicko293
    @Nicko293 2 месяца назад

    Excellent video as always. One thing i'd like to mention is that if you put 66 sth with two hand weapon is enough to max it because it scales up to 99. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
    Thanks for your work!

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      @@Nicko293 thanks! And yep it is. But if STR is your only investment at 150 you can go higher & single hand when need be (or if you use 2 of said weapon).

  • @Blugater
    @Blugater 2 месяца назад

    I used Milady cold infused with 30/70 dex/int build. Used it one hand with the regal scepter to cast ranni dark moon and zamor ice storm
    Now that I'm going to ng+ I'm really tempted to do a holy paladin run with 2 modes
    1- Leda sword
    2- hailgtree Greatshield + black steel greathammer

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      Nice! Sounds fun 💯

    • @Blugater
      @Blugater 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@AverageGamerMattyou should make a video about Leda sword. It's not the best of the best but I truly think it can be a fun build + with some Incantations like Discus light and golden arc

  • @SuperSaleem007
    @SuperSaleem007 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for showing the weapons in the main game map and not on DLC map..i am really afraid to click on build videos and get DLC spoilers

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  Месяц назад

      The grace period ended for most creators about a month after it was out. So a lot will have spoilers.

  • @GGabolfazl
    @GGabolfazl 2 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video. But...I mean milady is my favorite weapon in the dlc but I don't really think it's top 3. Ancient meteoric ore, fire knight's greatsword, or even the rakashasa great katana are clearly better in terms of damage and ease of use. But I would say that milady is the best weapon for ng+ and build crafting. That's i love the most about it

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      @@GGabolfazl thank you! 🙏 Rakshasa’s katana is good but I feel like Milady’s versatility & moveset make it top 5 easily.

    • @allanfinch5520
      @allanfinch5520 2 месяца назад

      How do you put keen on milady? I can put it in backhand blade but not this weapon

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      @@allanfinch5520 you need the whetblade for it. Stormviel castle one I believe.

  • @ayushbihani508
    @ayushbihani508 2 месяца назад

    Thanks to ur milady build i FINALLY beat messmer and god i am so happpyy

  • @ohhzymo5829
    @ohhzymo5829 2 месяца назад

    Hey Matt, got any ideas for a Miquella Build? Not beating her but being her

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      @@ohhzymo5829 you mean him? He’s the brother of Malenia. And tbh I’m not sure, I don’t do a lot of cosplay. But obv you’d want a holy & magic theme for the build.

    • @ohhzymo5829
      @ohhzymo5829 2 месяца назад

      @@AverageGamerMatt Forgot thats a guy. I had a great build but i couldnt find a good weapon to compensate my lack in close combat

  • @fudeomodas
    @fudeomodas 2 месяца назад +1

    How do you put milady with blood together with the wing satance?

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      You need the whetblade for it. It’s the one in Nokron.

  • @dsteddd6087
    @dsteddd6087 2 месяца назад +1

    What about rellana swords ? Are they bad ?

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      They’re okay lol much better if you are level 300+.

    • @dsteddd6087
      @dsteddd6087 2 месяца назад

      @@AverageGamerMatt yeah, i think both int and faith scaling are a bit too much. Cool concept though.

  • @St1ngyy
    @St1ngyy 2 месяца назад

    Plus anything with bleed affinity is usually d scaling with arcane isn’t worth 45 arcane. Put it into Endurance or faith

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      @@St1ngyy the “D” in arcane for blood is for the bleed build up. 45 gets you a solid amount of bleed. Next cap for it is 60.

  • @Bubba415
    @Bubba415 2 месяца назад +1

    Sword of night underrated

  • @slow.peril145
    @slow.peril145 2 месяца назад

    Im using the dancing blades built, but I don't seem to be doing as much damage as you are, and I'm not sure why? I followed everything exactly as you did, but the damage isn't as well as damage-y if that makes sense. Did I miss something?

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      @@slow.peril145 make sure you have same stats & talismans. Also hold down the bottom for as long as you can too.

    • @slow.peril145
      @slow.peril145 2 месяца назад

      ​@@AverageGamerMatt is it because im using the rotten winged sword insignia instead of the regular one?

  • @discontinued759
    @discontinued759 2 месяца назад

    Hey how come you basically always have the faith tear on? Isn’t it more efficient to level faith to 25 and use a more effective tear instead?

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      Nah those 10 levels are way more important imo, esp if you want 60 vigor at RL 150. You really only need 1 damage tear for most builds.

  • @plank4413
    @plank4413 2 месяца назад

    would the two-handed sword talisman work for the backhand blades?

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      @@plank4413 tbh I haven’t tested it with them, you end up with 2 swords though so I’m not sure. It is the same input though.

  • @mikejaydavies
    @mikejaydavies 2 месяца назад

    Is the rotten wing sword insignia glitched? Just curious why you were using the wing sword insignia instead for your builds listed here

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      I mention it frequently. Just didn’t have it. NG+ but not that far in. On NG you can only get one. I mostly play solo.

    • @mikejaydavies
      @mikejaydavies 2 месяца назад +1

      That’s fair. I should have taken a leaf from your book and gone into DLC on NG. I’m in there on NG+4 and definitely hurting for it

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      @@mikejaydavies I’ll be doing NG+7 soon on my xbox characters for dlc. It’s going to be brutal haha

  • @nostrings1269
    @nostrings1269 Месяц назад

    Is there a reason not to lvl past 150? I hadn't heard of this until now

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  Месяц назад

      @@nostrings1269 PvP Meta range is 125-150. Same for co op, easier within that range.

  • @arefabdulrahim2198
    @arefabdulrahim2198 2 месяца назад +1

    Did anyone ever tell u that you are the goat 🐐

  • @Balance-dt7jr
    @Balance-dt7jr 2 месяца назад

    It works against bosses but in normal pve milady and the arm are just bad. Try to stop a fireknight with the Milady and compare it to any Greatsword.

  • @vitorfernando4609
    @vitorfernando4609 2 месяца назад +1

    falx? ashe of war build up lot of blood and stagger enemies

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      It’s good, probably just outside my top 12. If only it was infusable lol

  • @meliodas2166
    @meliodas2166 2 месяца назад

    how in hell did u get fire affi on savage lions claw its the only thing i cant prog on it

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      You need the whetblade for it. Redmane castle. It’s to the left of the main arena/area. I believe you can only get it when the festival isn’t active.

  • @kazi6343
    @kazi6343 2 месяца назад

    I am using lion's claw with either giant crusher or blood fiend's arm. Both of these weapons just demolish bosses. Freja's sword in the off hand for stat.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      Nice! Bloodfiend’s arm is amazing. Best DLC weapon.

    • @emmettruskowsky5626
      @emmettruskowsky5626 2 месяца назад

      Why not savage lions claw? It's faster and hits multiple times so you can proc bleed.

    • @kazi6343
      @kazi6343 2 месяца назад

      @@emmettruskowsky5626 i tried both but lion's claw seems more reliable. I tried radhan about 10 times with savage and got him on the first try with lion's claw.

    • @emmettruskowsky5626
      @emmettruskowsky5626 2 месяца назад

      @@kazi6343 fair enough! Maybe I was blinded by the hype of a new ash of War haha

    • @kazi6343
      @kazi6343 2 месяца назад

      @@emmettruskowsky5626 i think savage lion's claw has it's place. It will be good on less mobile targets.

  • @SnotpitThe_Legend
    @SnotpitThe_Legend 2 месяца назад

    Ye, try occult on great katana, my AR is 1500 °^° With scadu Level 16 and max arcane

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      @@SnotpitThe_Legend this is at RL 150. At 99 arcane a lot of weapons on occult are good..lol

  • @LucieOne
    @LucieOne 2 месяца назад

    Just a big, bloody dlc. Everything and everyone can be bled. Have to try it on Milady now.

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад

      Haha yeah bleed is still OP. Apparently will be always lol

  • @jeremy3824
    @jeremy3824 2 месяца назад

    You missed the Messer spear.
    For the algorithm

  • @user-tj7xr6xd9z
    @user-tj7xr6xd9z 2 месяца назад +1

    I hate how highest damage/bleed always seems to = best. its uninspiring and ugly I'd rather use the worst weapon instead of being a sheep and using that tacky weapon. Imo the blood fiend fork is way better and doesn't look trashy.

  • @Pullo83
    @Pullo83 2 месяца назад +1

    🐐

  • @parky6031
    @parky6031 2 месяца назад

    I like u talking a bit slower, it’s easier to understand but you sounded depressed 😂

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +2

      @@parky6031 I just tried to keep it relaxed & chill. I felt like it had a good pace. I’m usually always low energy due to health reasons unfortunately.

    • @parky6031
      @parky6031 2 месяца назад

      @@AverageGamerMatt yes definitely good pace. Your videos are awesome man! I love it

  • @maciekprokop3780
    @maciekprokop3780 Месяц назад

    All great but I still think Moonveil is the best weapon in the game 😂

  • @JayNotion
    @JayNotion 2 месяца назад +1

    Chicken Leg.... mmmm tasty

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +2

      Broken chicken leg lol

    • @JayNotion
      @JayNotion 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AverageGamerMatt 🤣🤣🤣

  • @WooGooGaming
    @WooGooGaming 2 месяца назад +2

    If you aint first youre last

  • @ahmedqumsani8911
    @ahmedqumsani8911 2 месяца назад

    Falx sitting at a corner sad :/

  • @gn1us
    @gn1us 2 месяца назад

    Talking slower is better for sure

  • @Acrnix
    @Acrnix 2 месяца назад

    He really just said the sword lance was the best remeberance weapon💀 what about the blasphemous blade 🗿🗿💀🤦‍♂️

    • @AverageGamerMatt
      @AverageGamerMatt  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Acrnix best DLC remembrance. The whole video is DLC weapons lol

  • @ichibantsumugi4457
    @ichibantsumugi4457 2 месяца назад

    Fire knights GreatSword is just absolutely my go to. Its most likely my fav dlc weapon. 70/70 both str dex i hit it up for quality with flame skewer.