So many pros and cons for each. Price, drivability in all weather, usability on a daily basis, suitability for many or all tracks and the list is almost endless. The skills of the driver is always the telling factor at this pointy end of the market. But this video is one of the best I have seen. No bloody music, thank fucking Christ! We come for the car, not some bloody producers idea of entertainment. And the camera placement was really good also. Thanks for sharing it and please put up more. Thanks.
Thanks for your comment mate ;-) You are completely true, what matter is the driver, a friend told me one day: "Out of pure racing There is no bad car, only bad DRIVER" I think it is always the reality.
Man that looks like a good time. Obviously the Atom has a massive advantage in the corners, the MP4 is an amazing car with amazing electronics and suspension, but you just can't argue with a sub 2,000Lb skeleton car. On the straights though at the higher RPM's, that MP4 seemed to be getting you good, that's where the horsepower and aerodynamics and paddle shifting of the MP4 begin to show though. Great video.
Great video. The Atom pilot has some skills, so it looks deceptively easy. It's interesting to watch the key chain hanging 60 degrees off of vertical, so the driver is pulling well above 1.0 G of lateral acceleration, without getting twitchy. Nice video Sebastian. Looks like a perfect track day.
Why?? The Ariel Atom is nothing to joke about. It has good HP and torque, a super-light body, and good handling..... If anyone thinks lightly of the Atom, it's because they're an idiot.
If this atom has the honda k20 with supercharger it just proves how awesome this engine really is. The atom gets my vote as a track car for pure thrills and spills.
the sad thing is the ease at witch a few mods to the Atom could have it waxing this MP4. That is not to say that the MP4 couldn't just make the same mods and turn the tables but either way the price difference is staggering. Great job to both cars as they fill an individual niche for each but we see how the owners of each can coexist having more fun than is normally legal! haha
nice vid. though I feel there are some passing points that was missed. and there are some points where the braking and recovery could have been done a fraction of a sec faster. maybe just maybe the Atom could have passed the McLaren during the run.
FOr the recoed, it's not the F1 driver, i feel like lots of the people on this channel think it is, but the last name is spelt different. With that said, yeah, this guy is DEFINITELY a better driver than me, or 99% of the people out there
What spec or version of atom is this? I know it's not the V8, but it could be the Honda,or the Ecoboost, and then you might have a few upgrades.. and have you had it on a Dyno?
awesome video's you have, I owned about the same Ariel Atom SC and now drive a KTM X-Bow and met a MP4 on Spa...the power of this car is insane. With your driving skills you can keep up, I guess if you guys switched cars, you would shred your own car :) You also showed some seriously good skills on the Nurburgring, very impressive! Keep posting these lovely video's!
That was fun. I think the Atom was a bit quicker on this track, on this day, but most of the performance difference is the MP4 bloke is simply not trying. Maybe he doesn't know that track real well or maybe he's taking his wife / mistress around for a lap, or maybe he's just not terribly handy, but our man in the Atom is getting most of its performance out, but the bloke in the McLaren is hardly trying at all. Put the Stig in the MP4 and I'm not sure it'd run away and hide, but the apparent performance advantage the Atom has would vanish. It should be a little better under brakes and into corners. They should be fairly equal from apex to exit, the Atom should jump, but after a hundred yards or two it should stabilise, then the Mac should go away quite strongly. On a small, tight, technical (gokart) track, the Atom would have the edge. On a fast open track, the Mac should have it.
***** So you pay $20k more for less fun? Eff that noise. Sure it will be faster on track but will it be as fun? It's like motorcycles now with quick clutchless up shifts.
77BeatsPerMinute Wait - you use the clutch when shifting a bike?? You're doing it wrong....I have a 30 year old motorcycle, and even that one is dog geared just like most other bikes. No clutch needed to shift (up or down). It's made that way - clutch is only for starting. For street riding, I do slip it a tiny bit on downshifts, just to avoid the thump (for comfort), but it's only a tiny bit. Don't touch it on upshifts...much easier to just pull up the shift lever and blip the throttle. K Fox
K Fox LOL. I do clutchless upshifts on wet clutches like my Grom, old GSXR600s and Ninja. But on my Ducati with a dry clutch I use the clutch all the time. Ducati dry clutches are expensive to replace.
Thanks for posting! Great videos. Of course we would like to see a Ariel Atom vs BAC Mono at Nurburgring!! Like Poltak Arif said. I really like the way Ariel Atom defies the laws of Newton, because is so light. Acceleration, corners and braking with an astonishing ease.
why would you have a passenger for a race? especially when the whole premise behind the atom is its weight adding another passenger is going against that.
I think the Atom truly had it in the corners but it was no contest on the straits. The MP4 just plain goes like stink in a strait line! Love that Atom more though!
Neville Chapman Well thats the thing. He was able to keep up with a random guy who didnt know he was being raced. That random guy could have been there at his first track day ever. He could have been just trying out a new setup etc etc.
Look's like 2 guy's having way too much fun,and I wish it was me.Not totally knocking the driver because the Atom is no joke,but missing way too many apexes and smother transitions through the S's.would have overtaken the MCLAREN to block it out of it's incredible top end and things would have looked much closer then what was seen.Just my crappy opinion.I loved watching this and must say again: I wish it was my ass in the seat.Thanks for letting me watch!
Holy shit, This video just makes me Realize how stupid fast an MP4 really is. It destroyed the Atom in the Straights every time! But kudos for the Atom Driver for keeping up in the turns even when AWD vs RWD.
Not really a car person but it seems the car in front was quicker on the straights but I at with the camera ( The Atom) was better on the corners . Maybe if the chasing car didn't have a passenger it would have got a bit closer.
Got to say comments have been more reasonable than normal. If I could afford a supercar and went to an occasional track day, it would be great fun even my lines weren't as good as Gran Turismo in the real world
Two things: First, the guy in the Atom knows the racing line and the, "gentleman," in the Mclaren does not. This fact is made all the more evident by way the coupe accelerates away from the Ariel Atom once the driver straightens his machine out. I have seen this a hundred times @ the track: a rich man in a car he is afraid to drive @ the limit because he is either afraid for himself, or the $ he will lose if he makes a mistake (or both). The second observation involves the Atom...a lightweight flash that overcomes it's short wheelbase with a power/weight ratio that is explosive...he has a passenger. What a disadvantage for such a, "fly." This makes for an interesting study, even if the MC has a passenger too. All that aside, as they both are streetable rockets I'd take the McLaren. Because...that's what comparisons are really about...aren't they?
Bad lines all around, and the Atom lifted off way too early in many places where he could have left the hammer down. It the Atom braked only when needed, held the line, and kept the gas on, he would have made up the straight away distance gain easily.
Whoever is driving the MP4 either doesn't know the track or has no idea on cornering lines, anyone can go fast in a straight line which is about all he was good at.
these track days are a pain in the ass when you have such a car.... you could have overtaken the McLaren just taking a different line and being more aggressive on the brakes, but of course this attitude is not allowed on open days ;)
So many pros and cons for each. Price, drivability in all weather, usability on a daily basis, suitability for many or all tracks and the list is almost endless. The skills of the driver is always the telling factor at this pointy end of the market. But this video is one of the best I have seen. No bloody music, thank fucking Christ! We come for the car, not some bloody producers idea of entertainment. And the camera placement was really good also. Thanks for sharing it and please put up more. Thanks.
Thanks for your comment mate ;-)
You are completely true, what matter is the driver, a friend told me one day:
"Out of pure racing There is no bad car, only bad DRIVER"
I think it is always the reality.
+sebastian vittel I hear you. Which do you think you could lap fastest in? BAC Mono or Arial?
sebastian vittel unless it’s one of those weird Chinese SUV’s that flip on every turn
I love the key ring G meter :)
haha just noticed that too
Man that looks like a good time. Obviously the Atom has a massive advantage in the corners, the MP4 is an amazing car with amazing electronics and suspension, but you just can't argue with a sub 2,000Lb skeleton car. On the straights though at the higher RPM's, that MP4 seemed to be getting you good, that's where the horsepower and aerodynamics and paddle shifting of the MP4 begin to show though.
Great video.
I thought the Atom weight was 1200 pounds.
Odd as this may sound, this is one of my most wanted cars ever. Maybe some day I'll be able to drive one, let alone own one. Wish me luck!
Me too!, need a big win,
the keys were a great lateral g force indicator...
Clever, I can't stop watching them now, they really are.
This is much more interesting to watch than those BS drag races.
1:24 a moments silence for the guy who brought a Peugeot to a track day...
Is that what I saw parked on the straight....?!! lol
his Mom's 308
looks like a lot of fun in the Ariel Atom =)
Great video. The Atom pilot has some skills, so it looks deceptively easy. It's interesting to watch the key chain hanging 60 degrees off of vertical, so the driver is pulling well above 1.0 G of lateral acceleration, without getting twitchy. Nice video Sebastian. Looks like a perfect track day.
That was some great driving on a great track. Glad to see someone enjoying their Ariel Atom ownership!
The MP4-12C driver is afraid of the Apex
This seems to be so much fun!
One of the best track day videos on youtube.
all the Porsche drivers screaming "NEIN! NEIN!! NEIN!! NEIN!! NEIN!!!"...
Why?? The Ariel Atom is nothing to joke about. It has good HP and torque, a super-light body, and good handling..... If anyone thinks lightly of the Atom, it's because they're an idiot.
British cars overtaking them.
That was fun!!! 😊
Cool vid. I'd love to see this with two race drivers at the wheel and no passenger in the Atom.
Both awesome cars
You could have done him several times. What atom is it? Supercharged?
I'd rather have the atom, though part of that reason is because it only costs an arm, not an arm and a leg.
If this atom has the honda k20 with supercharger it just proves how awesome this engine really is.
The atom gets my vote as a track car for pure thrills and spills.
Very polite of driver to finally let you pass safely
Surprised mclaren pulled away so far in straights. Is the Atom version with the supercharger, or normally aspirated?
wonder how well the new atom v8 will do
McLaren's lines were shite.
Mediocre-Motorcycle-Modifications And it still pulled away lol
NoOneImportant556 Cause it has much more Horsepower than the Atom.
I agree he is a straight line driver, he has the money for the car but not the skill to use it!
Andrew Key He keeps going on the wrong side of the curves and braking way too much.
@Andrew. He buys a $250K car but is too cheap to pay $5k for driving lessons.
the sad thing is the ease at witch a few mods to the Atom could have it waxing this MP4. That is not to say that the MP4 couldn't just make the same mods and turn the tables but either way the price difference is staggering. Great job to both cars as they fill an individual niche for each but we see how the owners of each can coexist having more fun than is normally legal! haha
The guy behind the wheel of the MP4 is clearly not an experienced track driver. He missed a bunch of apex's. Still an amazing car 👍
nice vid. though I feel there are some passing points that was missed. and there are some points where the braking and recovery could have been done a fraction of a sec faster. maybe just maybe the Atom could have passed the McLaren during the run.
I would LOVE to get an Atom, but I don't know if they can be legally registered/ tagged in Maryland.
nice track, where is this?
price wise ? should have been a no contest 30k vs 300k
That must be a thrilling driving experience.
Your videos are awesome man!
Wich track is it ? Wich engine has the Ariel ?
4:45 why did he swing so wide? It looks like he you were purposely allowed to pass.
Great video man, I think you could have taken him.
Both cars need a driver mod...
+fran20055 What are you trying to say?
+fran20055 drivertrain replacement could reduce lap time by as much as 74.2%
that those drivers suck lmfao wahahaha
Bring your car to the track or go buy you one and then you can race them...
FOr the recoed, it's not the F1 driver, i feel like lots of the people on this channel think it is, but the last name is spelt different. With that said, yeah, this guy is DEFINITELY a better driver than me, or 99% of the people out there
What spec or version of atom is this? I know it's not the V8, but it could be the Honda,or the Ecoboost, and then you might have a few upgrades.. and have you had it on a Dyno?
Is this the K20 supercharged atom? I ask cause that mc left him on the straights. Even with coming out of the corner better it was gone
what is that green gumpert apollo looking car at the end? smoking like a diesel
Zach Birdsall It is a Peugeot proto
4:50 is the best part!
awesome video's you have, I owned about the same Ariel Atom SC and now drive a KTM X-Bow and met a MP4 on Spa...the power of this car is insane. With your driving skills you can keep up, I guess if you guys switched cars, you would shred your own car :)
You also showed some seriously good skills on the Nurburgring, very impressive!
Keep posting these lovely video's!
Then why can’t he pass a 10 year old mclaren with half the Hp/tonne
Lol ignore me this is a much older video than I thought I thought it was a new Atom 4
Are you from switzerland? I saw the 2013 motorway sticker on your Ariel
Nope from France close Geneva ;-)
Excellent driving!
Do you ever get a Buggati Veyron out there?
Does this Atom have the Honda motor or the Chevy motor? One day i will drive an Atom on a track. Til then i can only dream :( Great video!
what track is this?
it´s circuit is laguna seca?
Great driving my man, great driving!
What engine/hp is the Atom?
is this the 300 or the v8?
love watching the g meter keys haha
That was fun. I think the Atom was a bit quicker on this track, on this day, but most of the performance difference is the MP4 bloke is simply not trying. Maybe he doesn't know that track real well or maybe he's taking his wife / mistress around for a lap, or maybe he's just not terribly handy, but our man in the Atom is getting most of its performance out, but the bloke in the McLaren is hardly trying at all. Put the Stig in the MP4 and I'm not sure it'd run away and hide, but the apparent performance advantage the Atom has would vanish. It should be a little better under brakes and into corners. They should be fairly equal from apex to exit, the Atom should jump, but after a hundred yards or two it should stabilise, then the Mac should go away quite strongly. On a small, tight, technical (gokart) track, the Atom would have the edge. On a fast open track, the Mac should have it.
the sound of those turbos gave me a woody
turbos?
there are no turbos.
I like the way you can use the angle of dangle of his keys to see how hard he is cornering. 45 degrees=1G, at times he doing better than that.
Which Atom is it,the 240Hp one?Because the new 3.5 one,has paddles, instead of a stick.
And of course,it would shoot down the Mclaren.
You can still get a manual. The paddle transmission is a $20K option.
***** So you pay $20k more for less fun? Eff that noise. Sure it will be faster on track but will it be as fun? It's like motorcycles now with quick clutchless up shifts.
77BeatsPerMinute Wait - you use the clutch when shifting a bike?? You're doing it wrong....I have a 30 year old motorcycle, and even that one is dog geared just like most other bikes. No clutch needed to shift (up or down). It's made that way - clutch is only for starting. For street riding, I do slip it a tiny bit on downshifts, just to avoid the thump (for comfort), but it's only a tiny bit. Don't touch it on upshifts...much easier to just pull up the shift lever and blip the throttle.
K Fox
K Fox LOL. I do clutchless upshifts on wet clutches like my Grom, old GSXR600s and Ninja. But on my Ducati with a dry clutch I use the clutch all the time. Ducati dry clutches are expensive to replace.
What was the green car that coughed up its engine at 4:55?
awesome... just awesome...
Almost 100k view, thank you every body for watching!!
In few weeks there will be a match of Ariel Atom VS Lamborghini Huracan that must be see ;-)
That I can't wait! Still rooting for the Atom though.
Thanks for posting! Great videos. Of course we would like to see a Ariel Atom vs BAC Mono at Nurburgring!! Like Poltak Arif said. I really like the way Ariel Atom defies the laws of Newton, because is so light. Acceleration, corners and braking with an astonishing ease.
I am shocked at how accurate PGR was
why would you have a passenger for a race? especially when the whole premise behind the atom is its weight adding another passenger is going against that.
For fun? This isn't hardcore racing
In every single car/race video on youtube.. "they suck at driving"
+jeff fay and you're an f1 driver aren't you ?
10482021 080253 no you dont understand what I was saying. Im saying that thats what people say, not what I think about the racer.
jeff fay ah ok I should of noticed you used quotation marks my bad buddy
10482021 080253 no problem xD
Awesome,great vid
nice clean drive
loving it.big bad wolf against the little honda
A Ledenon en plus. Magnifique
The Atom is a fantastic car and an absolute bargain, so much so I'm thinking about buying one.
I think the Atom truly had it in the corners but it was no contest on the straits. The MP4 just plain goes like stink in a strait line! Love that Atom more though!
Your G meter hanging off the dash needs a bit more damping. Nice post!
Perfect overtake, I think he was just toying with him at 1st
Damn that Mc Laren is fast
nonsense, who was driving the Mc ?.
Rowan atkinson
Neville Chapman they're not exactly racing... everyone is obviously just having fun.
sebastian vittel Mr Bean more like it:-) Not that I could do any better mind you. Nice video:-)
sebastian vittel LOL
Neville Chapman Well thats the thing. He was able to keep up with a random guy who didnt know he was being raced. That random guy could have been there at his first track day ever. He could have been just trying out a new setup etc etc.
Ça doit être de la bombe à conduire 😃
The line at around 1:00 was so bad it looked like the mclaren driver didn't know if he should go left or right. Wtf
Regardless of how good a driver you are Sebastian, I would have been crapping myself in the shotgun seat!
He was definitely holding you up
Watch the Gs on the key ring LOL! Great car the Atom.
Look's like 2 guy's having way too much fun,and I wish it was me.Not totally knocking the driver because the Atom is no joke,but missing way too many apexes and smother transitions through the S's.would have overtaken the MCLAREN to block it out of it's incredible top end and things would have looked much closer then what was seen.Just my crappy opinion.I loved watching this and must say again: I wish it was my ass in the seat.Thanks for letting me watch!
I feel like this is the slowest ariel atom around a track ever
canadachop yea me too normaly a Atom will hé destroying the MP4
The Mac should've been chasing. I think we're going to have to see Atom vs. Atom.
cara sua tocada tava muito boa, só q em algumas curvas vc poderia ter entrado mais rápido e em outras passar de pé cravado
did anyone notice the g-forces on the key ring
I can't stand with the old school dash from Ariel. A good shift light and big speed numbers are very useful.
Jesus Christ that sound. Where is the red line?
Holy shit, This video just makes me Realize how stupid fast an MP4 really is. It destroyed the Atom in the Straights every time! But kudos for the Atom Driver for keeping up in the turns even when AWD vs RWD.
Thanks, mp4 is a rwd not awd ;-)
sebastian vittel Aww didn't know about that.. Still your Driving Skills where Superior! Those Straight Lines where the only killer..
sebastian vittel This was an Ariel Atom? Not the v8 right?
at9670 yes but the 300hp 4cylinder not v8 ;-)
sebastian vittel So what do you think? Could the V8 one beat the MP4 easily too?
And it's your car right? How much did you paid for it?
Not really a car person but it seems the car in front was quicker on the straights but I at with the camera ( The Atom) was better on the corners .
Maybe if the chasing car didn't have a passenger it would have got a bit closer.
Got to say comments have been more reasonable than normal. If I could afford a supercar and went to an occasional track day, it would be great fun even my lines weren't as good as Gran Turismo in the real world
Waited SO long to pass!
think of how many bugs the atom driver just ate.
in his helmet
this is not a car ...what does it weight 5-600? pack some weights equal to mcl and see how it will end up. this is an overcharged gokart.:)
Thats a great track, mclaren driver was making his apexes way too early
This is serious fun.
Two things: First, the guy in the Atom knows the racing line and the, "gentleman," in the Mclaren does not. This fact is made all the more evident by way the coupe accelerates away from the Ariel Atom once the driver straightens his machine out. I have seen this a hundred times @ the track: a rich man in a car he is afraid to drive @ the limit because he is either afraid for himself, or the $ he will lose if he makes a mistake (or both). The second observation involves the Atom...a lightweight flash that overcomes it's short wheelbase with a power/weight ratio that is explosive...he has a passenger. What a disadvantage for such a, "fly." This makes for an interesting study, even if the MC has a passenger too. All that aside, as they both are streetable rockets I'd take the McLaren. Because...that's what comparisons are really about...aren't they?
that person in the atom not pushing it at all
+Alexander Zamani
yep
really... ya leave it till 4:50ish to overtake and push on - the frickin vid is only 5:14...this last 20 seconds better be worth it !!!!!!! :)
Bad lines all around, and the Atom lifted off way too early in many places where he could have left the hammer down. It the Atom braked only when needed, held the line, and kept the gas on, he would have made up the straight away distance gain easily.
Gripping his paws .
Whoever is driving the MP4 either doesn't know the track or has no idea on cornering lines, anyone can go fast in a straight line which is about all he was good at.
on appel cela un concour de circonstance :-)
Весь ролик наблюдал за сжатыми кулаками пассажира ))
I PRESUME THE ATOM IS NOT TRYING TO PASS THE MP4 , BUT JUST PACE IT
Hi,
Yes supercharged
these track days are a pain in the ass when you have such a car.... you could have overtaken the McLaren just taking a different line and being more aggressive on the brakes, but of course this attitude is not allowed on open days ;)