There may be nothing behind it, but on the other side of the highway in front is the Kansas Speedway, the Legends shopping district, a soccer stadium, etc.
@@therealjoshuacaleb4873this location is literally where the Schlitterbahn water park was at. Roughly 99th and State Avenue. It’s just one of several that will likely be proposed on the Kansas side. This is not a Chiefs approved design. It is just a concept by one of many potential developers.
The people of Wyandotte County will suffer from this. Wyandotte County does not have a lot of money to support this project. This is very sad and disgusting. Leave the damn stadium in Kansas City, Missouri, where it belongs.
I know Allegiant is getting hated on for starting this trend. But I honestly think it has a cool exterior design. This Bears and Chiefs renderings just look so meh.
They're doing this to cut back on cost. By copying other stadium blueprint designs, it reduces the amount of money that has to be spent on development. the same thing we saw in the 1970's with multipurpose stadiums. This is what happens when owners want a new stadium but don't want to pay to build a new stadium out of their own pockets. The Hunt family is extremely cheap when it comes to facilities. so them copying another stadiums design to build a new stadium doesn't surprise me.
"Chiefs" on the exterior will be replaced by the company that wins the sponsorship rights to the stadium like most others. "Chiefs" is just a placeholder / default name.
It should be called "The Kansas Taxpayers Field". I never understand how governments pay for this and then allow corporations to write all over the building, advertise on TV and have a background poster on all of the press conferences.
Just throwing this out there as a Kansas City metro resident. First off close the downtown airport and move its operations to an expanded KCI. Then build a new sports complex on the former downtown airport property and fund it with a by-state tax. That way every one is in. Not just Jackson county.
Here's the real unique thing about it - the best team in the league plays there. I'm all for a new stadium, but let everyone else have all the glitz and glam. The Chiefs exist to win football games. A nice stadium with modern amenities is a good thing, but it doesn't really matter all that much. What matters is the team that's on the field, how they perform, and what they represent to the city.
@@Xmetalfanx yeah they keep hiring the same architect. The Vikings stadium was before this and it actually has some uniqueness inside and out, which is why it’s great. I hate the cookie cutter thing that’s happening rn
@@stevenbrown3249 Yeah, after Atlanta's stadium in 2017, all of these super stadiums started to look the same with their interiors and it's starting to get annoying because it's like a new version of cookie-cutter stadiums. They need to stop designing them like this and get more imaginative.
I still dont understand why they dont just ACTUALLY DEVELOP the area around arrowhead in the first place. If this rendering were to be accurate to the future plans, why move? Why not just sit where u r at and renew the lease instead if getting an entirely new one. Itd be cheaper, you wont be sacrificing the iconic arrowhead, and you get a TitleTown sort of feel in GB.
because the current location of Kauffman and Arrowhead Stadia is in a very sketchy part of town where nobody wants to go outside of game time. If it could have been developed as a viable business option, it would have been done decades ago. but there is a successful Taco Bell right across the street, so maybe I'm crazy.
@@JohnnyMidnyte Exactly. They talked about doing this years ago and realized no one goes that part of the city, which is why it's so empty around that part of KC (Indepence MO).
Bears contributing 2 billion to a stadium that the a city of Chicago would own - weird. It will cost 4 billion but someone says it’s really going to be like 7 billion. It’s crazy because they bought land in a suburb with plenty of space and much cheaper to build.
How many events in a fiscal year would host? 16 days total? 10- preseason/ regular season nfl games. 1- car show 2- monster jam events 1- taylor swift concert 1- music fest 1- ncaa final four maybe once a decade 1- only Superbowl host within first few years open How does that return investment to the city with such a large upfront cost. 16-17 events a year seems a bit tough.
The NFL is going to dome themselves into irrelevance. A lot of people watch football because it is still a mostly outdoor game...played in the elements.
Let’s be 100% clear, the star bonds that were actually supposed to fix our streets in our schools are now building football Stanley stadiums for millionaires. Can someone please explain to me how this is OK?
Let's be 100% clearer: From Kansascommerce.gov , the star bonds are for: 'STAR Bonds are used to assist the development of major entertainment or tourism destinations in Kansas.' www.kansascommerce.gov/program/community-programs/star-bonds/ So, it's not limited to streets/schools. It's paid for by 'use' tax. No impact on regular taxes.
no way chiefs play indoors. when miami left 85 degrees to play in 8 below you saw the results. never happen vikings haven t been to a superbowl since they went indoors
Arrowhead is the Chiefs home, always should be , No one in Missouri or Kansas really wants this new stadium. Lambeau and Arrowhead, that's all that left for the real football experience. Keep it where it is. Also, this is 22 miles from downtown. Stop now. Kansas really doesn't gain except bragging rights and DEBT !! You can not re-create Arrowhead !!
man, i like it, the stadium Coach Reid & Patrick Mahomes built. Coach, Reid leaves Phillly, goes to KC , promote one of his coaches, Veach to GM, we all know the rest of the story. Chiefs deserve a new stadium. If your an old head, like me, you remember Marty ball. If kansas is a better location, get it done. At all cost, let's keep the Kansas City Chiefs in Kansas City. Over the Bridge, or across. GO KC
Well worth the 10 or so days a year the Chiefs will be playing a home game. I know, other events will be scheduled, but let's face it, if this gets built, the Chiefs are the reason.
Not really, don't forget a Super Bowls and NCAA Final Four. KC hasn't hosted a Final Four since 1988 because Arrowhead is not enclosed. Even so, KC has hosted the most Final Four's so far! Don't forget the World Cup too!
@@big12plus How many Super Bowl games will be played at the new stadium in the first 10 years of its existence? One? Two at most? Same with the Final Four. Who says they're getting the World Cup, and when might that be? Also, these are all one-off events - not an annual occurrence. To say the new stadium is about much more than the Chiefs is misleading IMO. These other events are just brief bonuses once the Chiefs start playing there.
It’s a modern version of arrowhead…Which is an absolute must. There is a certain energy and feel to Arrowhead which is the result of the interior setup and design. That must be replicated in any new Chiefs Stadium.
Since states are using taxpayer's money to build these stadiums they don't need anything special in the design. Spend private money and make it as unique as you want.
@@Charlesthefidoif taxpayers are going to spend billions to pay for these things, let them get their money's worth by hosting a variety of events besides 10 Padded Rugby games a year. Roofs make that more possible
Pathetic that JCMO has been so good to this team for all these years and they say goodbye simply bc they didn't get their precious way. Clark Hunt makes me sick....
This possible stadium rendering was not leaked. It was presented to the KS Legislature yesterday (April 30th), the last day of the 2024 session. No one "paid" for this rendering, it's just to show what's possible. An actual rendering of what would be built would have Chief's input and would be different. The Chief's have until June '25 to make a deal with Kansas concerning the Star bonds, per local news reports. If you notice, there are no buildings in any direction of this complex rendering!?! Again, it's a possible design rendering. The actual proposed location is next to the Kansas Speedway, The Legions and the Sporting KC soccer stadium. Rumors are the stadium and speedway would share the same parking lot, like the Royals and Chiefs do at the Truman Sports Complex today. But to the west and south of the location is mostly open ground with scattered subdivisions. There are other counties in the KC metro area also interested hosting the Chiefs and Royals also. They too can use Star bonds with no local vote required. And, Arrowhead is the third oldest stadium in the NFL. Wasted time reviewing a rendering of an unapproved design. Might do more background research before making suggestions next time!
There is not "nothing" surrounding it. This would be directly adjacent to the Legends Retail area and Kansas Speedway race track. That being said, I would still prefer Arrowhead.
Not a few existing stadiums are built according to standard designs. This is a new generation design, which is based on the original design of the stadium in LA.
If the Chiefs get a new indoor stadium, we will drive up from Oklahoma to see it!!!! Dallas’s indoor AT&T Stadium is amazing, if the Chiefs can come close to that they will have a wonderful stadium that can and will be used year around with perfect indoor weather!!!!
I like the dome! They need to dome cold weather stadiums so it's a 12 month use place. Could be great for NCAA march madness and or Bowl Games. MetLife needs a dome ASAP!
1. Within a 10 mile radius of the current stadium is nearly 1 million people. Withing a 10 mile radius of this is 100,000 2. The current stadium is 7 miles from downtown. This site is 14 miles 3. The current stadium is geographically centralized (a little more east) this is on the far west edge 4. Sunshine, Sunflowers, Sonsabitches
If There Are 1 Million People With•In A 10 Mile Radius, How Is It Possible That It’s A 900,000 Difference In People With•In 10 Miles Of This Radius? Not Being A Smart A55, Trying To Make Sense Of The Difference.
@@kappaman1994 Look at a map. Western KCK is very rural. The new stadium would be at 435 and I-70 on the KS side. It's the least populated part of all of metro KC. It's a quick drive to other parts of the metro. Arrowhead is not directly surrounded by much. It's sort of industrial, but it's heavily populated in all directions once you get like a mile from the stadium.
@@kappaman1994 When I started looking for numbers it honestly shocked me as well, I thought the populations would be closer. But the current stadium is 6 miles east of the MO/KS border and 6 miles south of the MO river, a 10 mile radius includes all of KCMO, KCK, North KC, Independence, Raytown, Claycomo, & Leawood as well as half of Mission, Overland Park, and Lee's Summit. This new site would include all of Bonner Springs & Basehor, most of Shawnee, and half of KCK. I could be lowballing Kansas, but it is definitely between 100k and 200k
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I've been a fan since 1966. I believe the Hunt family owes us the fans not the other way around. You see some of us stood by the Chiefs when they weren't that great of a team thru all those years. Lamar brought the team to MISSOURI, and it should stay here. Seperate from the Royals trying to grt that boondoggle built over 12 lanes of I70 Downtown with everyone being shuttled in. Frank White can eat his empty buildings down there he stands to make millions from or whatever his issue is. He's the only one pushing for that so it's my guess he's getting some financial gain from it somehow.
For anyone wondering, the proposed location in this rendering is the northeast corner of I-70 and I-435. I expected a stadium would go west of the speedway, but maybe this makes more sense so traffic on gamedays wouldn't be tied up with all the traffic on the west side of 435.
It would be really cool to have the outside structure shaped like the arrow on the helmet. The one enzone seating part would be shaped in the point of the arrow end the other end would be glass and could be open some for ventilation. Plus some seating there. Or you could have the arrow point end of the structure be the glass end for ventilation with a stands section there thats straight but lower than the top of the staduim. And put the roof on top with the KC in red that lights up. So when you fly above this stadium it looks just like the logo on the helmet. Incorporate a lot of red and white on the out side of the structure. Some in pillars holdind up dome. Use some yellow also. Use a lot of lighting on the roof and arround foundation . For nights.
I agree. I love Truman Sports Complex, and always will, but the area around it, for some reason or another, never really developed. There's nothing around it but a bunch of industrial buildings and a Dennys. The Legends area, where this stadium is proposed, is already a well established entertainment district. Like it or not, today's fans don't just want to go see the game, they want a bunch of other things to do too. Myself, I'm getting to the age where I would rather watch a Chiefs or a KState game on my couch. Plus, we're all Steelers fans in my house, so I really don't care what happens with Arrowhead... ...but, I know the day is coming when my Royals move out of Kauffman Stadium, and I will be heartbroken. I also don't believe tax-payers should foot the bill either, unless it will be used for Kansas High School State Championships, (which it won't) KU and KState games, etc. Not just Chiefs games and concerts.
Arrowhead will be 52 years old before the 2024 regular season starts. At least this place is old enough to have gray hair, unlike Cleveland’s stadium. Arrowhead is the third oldest. I know the stadium outside of Buffalo was built on a shoestring budget, how is Arrowhead holding up? Yes, the Bills are getting a new stadium.
Because the stadium is getting old, to the point where it’s starting to cost tens of millions (or more) in maintenance. It doesn’t have any of the amenities that fans & owners want & it’s not set up to be able to adjust to new tech that will be coming in the next 10-30 years.
@@joedimaggio3687 ask your Jackson county people, and the sport authority, someone is making a lot of money and it's not going back to Arrowhead or the Royals, the mayor sure is looking cool in those 2000 dollar suits though
They can at least give them a unique character to them though like Minnesota and Atlanta's super domed stadiums. They got pretty lazy with the interior design. Give it some character at least.
Don't like it. Should at least have some Arrowhead shape to the entire surrounding area. Seem like a huge miss on some easy design elements. Better be loud and I'd prefer it have less glass and screen where seats should be. Love the no bad seat feel of Arrowhead, so interior seating needs to maintain that special steep stack of the tiers that GEHA has now.
I get the frozen mustache and extreme cold of last season on display but what's with the NFL's rush to put all these teams into domes? Isn't football best played outside?
That's why all the fields down south get all the Superbowls, outside football is not a pleasant experience in February, fans have gotten soft and frostbite is very real
Because NFL stadiums only get to host 10 games each year, not including any playoff games. For the rest of the year on those 355 days, they sit empty and unused. If there's a dome it allows teams to host additional sporting events, concerts, and conventions that require controlled environments. This earns them more money. I mean think about it, do you think the Kansas Jayhawks basketball team would benefit from having a Final Four 30 minutes from their campus?
That's true, but, sounds like Gov. Kelly is going to call the Leg. back into a "Special Session" for a tax bill. The Leg. can work any bill they want during these 3 days. I think the biggest problem will be this is an election year for both the House and Senate. Might not want to run on a new stadium issue?!?
@@bobbobson8087 Cross the browns off that list assuming they get a new domed stadium but yes those teams you mentioned currently play outside and that’s the way it’s supposed to be.
@@bobbobson8087Browns Bengals and Jets are trying to cross themselves off that list. And it's only a matter of time before the rest do too. It's fucking stupid.
The renderings show the stadium on the northeast corner of the I-70 and 435 interchange, but it's not the north that is undeveloped, it's the southside of the location. The are plenty of businesses north of the proposed location and you have the Legends shopping area along with the Kansas Speedway, Sporting Park, and Monarchs baseball to the northwest. Plenty of nearby places.
The NFL has established a dome requirement to host the Super Bowl. So if you're building a new football stadium you may as well build a covered/dome stadium and have a shot of hosting the NFL championship.
Yes, teams want to host Super Bowls and events year round. Right now NFL teams are only guaranteed 8-9 reg season gms and 1-2 preseason games. So thats only 10-11 days out the whole year a stadium is making $. Besides the west coast and Florida stadiums; all future stadiums will have a dome or retraceable roof. #ChiefsKingdom
I think they would be better off putting a version of the LAR/LAC roof design over the top of the existing stadium, instead of a three way pillar design, it should go to a 4 way. Could have the logo at each pillar location and the roof.
You must be blind! Its literally Arrowhead Stadium with a roof. Saying it'd be nice if they did the upper deck like Arrowhead. IT IS! Even the scoreboard is the same shape. 😅😅
I think it looks pretty good. It may not be "unique", but i don't know what people expect. It's clean, and as long as it's comfortable and gives fans a good view of everything, it's perfectly fine by me.
The weather has changed since we invented football it's not the fact that it's meant to be played outside it's the weather has gotten different and it just matters now to be safe inside and not have to worry
Didn't people lose parts of their feet due to FROSTBITE from that playoff game against the Dolphins? Honestly, I don't mind them building a dome. I hope they do a retractable field to bring inside during games and all.
Yea, while we're at it, let's bring back leather helmets and clothes line tackles! The only thing that hasn't changed in football is the field size. As an owner, I won't want players I'm paying millions of dollars being hurt due to poor weather conditions! Anyone who went to the Miami game really enjoy themselves? 🥶
This man don't know what he's talking about. There is a ENTERTAINMENT District right across the highway. The Kansas Speedway is out there and there is a Casino is out there. That what stadiums are looking for .
what a slap in the face to loyal chiefs fans who have been spending billions, owners should pay the bill not taxpayers!! shame on him for trying to go somewhere else to get taxpayer money shame!
Do you (general you) want really nice or even more costly and more unique? that has the potential for a great complex. Arrowhead is awesome though, I know owners just want all the new and flashy and makes their bottom line worth more money if they sell.
Might as well go to Kansas two-thirds the stadium is filled with people from KS every Sunday anyway. Can you imagine a dome how loud wow! Go job Lucas! *****
No new stadium will ever have the upper deck like arrowhead, regulations won't allow it. Which will be the saddest part if they end up leaving.. Arrowhead is a major homefield advantage. It will still be good, but not like what we have now. And I think you've got it all wrong, if you want to replace Arrowhead and want it to be received well publicly (at least by local fans, and that's all that matters really) the last thing you want to is have a WOW and CRAZY design that looks "cool". That sounds terrible, and in 5 years after it's built it will be "out of style" Arrowhead is 52 years old, it's still one of if not the best overall looking stadiums in the league and its look will literally last till the end of time. I would say the majority of chiefs fans would prefer a traditional, classic stadium over some dumb future looking stadium.
The extra money in Chicago is for things around the stadium, not just stadium construction. Team owners think part of a stadium design must include a hotel or office space and some restaurant space.
The design should include the field with natural grass that roll out on rails for sun light and irrigation. The floor should be concrete and the field should have some type of padding protect the players regardless of the sporting event. The roof should be able to open and close. The locker room should be extremely large and luxurious with many features that existing stadiums do not have. The food coach areas should be inviting and luxurious for fans and visitors. It should have many restaurants that offer great food and service during the season and off season. A glass roof is a great idea as long as it has features to melt snow and protect against hail damage. The restroom should be large with large stools and privacy. Ideas, ideas and more ideas. Make it a 3.5 billion dollars facility with outside venues.
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Natural grass should be a MUST in ALL NFL stadiums.
I get it they don’t like retractable roofs or a canopy over the seats, but it’s meant to be played outside anyway.
How about no
Yep get those field lights that can grow grass indoors!
Agreed 1 billion %
Sand fields. Better for the joints
This rendering is precisely Arrowhead stadium with a glass roof.
There may be nothing behind it, but on the other side of the highway in front is the Kansas Speedway, the Legends shopping district, a soccer stadium, etc.
So up there on 435 east of Bonner? That would super convenient for me.
And?
A Great Wolf Lodge hotel as well
@@therealjoshuacaleb4873this location is literally where the Schlitterbahn water park was at. Roughly 99th and State Avenue. It’s just one of several that will likely be proposed on the Kansas side. This is not a Chiefs approved design. It is just a concept by one of many potential developers.
I don't understand. Isn't there a dealership over there?
The people of Wyandotte County will suffer from this. Wyandotte County does not have a lot of money to support this project. This is very sad and disgusting. Leave the damn stadium in Kansas City, Missouri, where it belongs.
US Bank and Mercedes were so unique and I find it surprising how quickly the pendulum has swung to boring and safe.
I know Allegiant is getting hated on for starting this trend. But I honestly think it has a cool exterior design. This Bears and Chiefs renderings just look so meh.
@@jacobdye4037It’s similar to the cookie cutter multi purpose stadiums built in the 60’s with a modern twist.
They're doing this to cut back on cost. By copying other stadium blueprint designs, it reduces the amount of money that has to be spent on development. the same thing we saw in the 1970's with multipurpose stadiums. This is what happens when owners want a new stadium but don't want to pay to build a new stadium out of their own pockets. The Hunt family is extremely cheap when it comes to facilities. so them copying another stadiums design to build a new stadium doesn't surprise me.
It’s very sad to see but the nfl is becoming less exciting like it once was
$$$$ why trade one of the iconic, the loudest stadium in the world to this? It's $$$
"Chiefs" on the exterior will be replaced by the company that wins the sponsorship rights to the stadium like most others. "Chiefs" is just a placeholder / default name.
Please, not GEHA Field. How about the "Citizens of Kansas" stadium?
GOOD POINT
GEHA is a good company.....as good as any willing to sponsor....T Mobile is the company I would to see....or Google, hate them, Samsung, hate them.
GEHA Field at Kansas Motorspeedway complex Arrowhead
It should be called "The Kansas Taxpayers Field". I never understand how governments pay for this and then allow corporations to write all over the building, advertise on TV and have a background poster on all of the press conferences.
Call me old school but I love the current stadium. It's got so much history!
Plus it's in Missouri as well and not Kansas.
I swear, these new stadium designs are equivalent to the cookie-cutter stadiums of the 1970’s. Basically the same lame blueprint. They all SUCK!
Just throwing this out there as a Kansas City metro resident. First off close the downtown airport and move its operations to an expanded KCI. Then build a new sports complex on the former downtown airport property and fund it with a by-state tax. That way every one is in. Not just Jackson county.
Here's the real unique thing about it - the best team in the league plays there. I'm all for a new stadium, but let everyone else have all the glitz and glam. The Chiefs exist to win football games.
A nice stadium with modern amenities is a good thing, but it doesn't really matter all that much. What matters is the team that's on the field, how they perform, and what they represent to the city.
My thoughts exactly. I don’t go to a game to admire the building. It’s nice, but I’m there to see the Chiefs play.
I want a new stadium not so much for the public but the facilities for the team
That grade card was bad
By the time the Chiefs play there they will no longer be the best team in the NFL.
@@Bk6346We will, don’t worry
These stadiums have no character, good god this is upsetting.
all these stadiums/"super stadium" all are starting to look the same now ... though i like the Viking's stadium
@@Xmetalfanx yeah they keep hiring the same architect. The Vikings stadium was before this and it actually has some uniqueness inside and out, which is why it’s great. I hate the cookie cutter thing that’s happening rn
@@stevenbrown3249 Yeah, after Atlanta's stadium in 2017, all of these super stadiums started to look the same with their interiors and it's starting to get annoying because it's like a new version of cookie-cutter stadiums. They need to stop designing them like this and get more imaginative.
Better than the cookie cutters
I like how they've incorporated the design of Arrowhead into this concept.
this is a big deal
This is very offensive the stadium needs to stay in Kansas City, Missouri
I still dont understand why they dont just ACTUALLY DEVELOP the area around arrowhead in the first place. If this rendering were to be accurate to the future plans, why move? Why not just sit where u r at and renew the lease instead if getting an entirely new one. Itd be cheaper, you wont be sacrificing the iconic arrowhead, and you get a TitleTown sort of feel in GB.
Fucking thank you. Every Kansas side fan has been so eager to shit on us and completely erase the history of the team just for their own comfort
because the current location of Kauffman and Arrowhead Stadia is in a very sketchy part of town where nobody wants to go outside of game time. If it could have been developed as a viable business option, it would have been done decades ago. but there is a successful Taco Bell right across the street, so maybe I'm crazy.
@@JohnnyMidnyte Exactly. They talked about doing this years ago and realized no one goes that part of the city, which is why it's so empty around that part of KC (Indepence MO).
Because the city just turned down a vote to continue the 3/8th cent tax to fund just what you’re talking about.
They are trying to pressure the public for taxpayers money otherwise they will move from Arrowhead. I think that’s whole point of this announcement.
Does this guy like any stadium
No
Nope. But it he wants everyone to have shiny new ones with translucent roofs even though they still all suck in his eyes.
He's a big fan of the Milwaukee Buck's new arena
Bears contributing 2 billion to a stadium that the a city of Chicago would own - weird. It will cost 4 billion but someone says it’s really going to be like 7 billion. It’s crazy because they bought land in a suburb with plenty of space and much cheaper to build.
The reason why the teams want city to own so they pay maintaince, no tax, city to pay for upgrades. $2bil. cheap buy in.
@@denniscarver7681 for them yes but not the City of Chicago taxpayers
How many events in a fiscal year would host? 16 days total?
10- preseason/ regular season nfl games.
1- car show
2- monster jam events
1- taylor swift concert
1- music fest
1- ncaa final four maybe once a decade
1- only Superbowl host within first few years open
How does that return investment to the city with such a large upfront cost.
16-17 events a year seems a bit tough.
@@Catnado5000 World Cup
And likely a Olympic host city
@@rhdtv2002 Staying in the city attracts a lot of events because they're right next to downtown.
The new Kansas City Chiefs stadium looks incredible. I would like the grass to be natural and use ultraviolet light to make the grass grow.
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The NFL is going to dome themselves into irrelevance. A lot of people watch football because it is still a mostly outdoor game...played in the elements.
I guarantee the end cost will be more than triple that 2 billion. Taxpayers on the hook.
Yes
Let’s be 100% clear, the star bonds that were actually supposed to fix our streets in our schools are now building football Stanley stadiums for millionaires. Can someone please explain to me how this is OK?
Let's be 100% clearer: From Kansascommerce.gov , the star bonds are for: 'STAR Bonds are used to assist the development of major entertainment or tourism destinations in Kansas.' www.kansascommerce.gov/program/community-programs/star-bonds/
So, it's not limited to streets/schools. It's paid for by 'use' tax. No impact on regular taxes.
no way chiefs play indoors. when miami left 85 degrees to play in 8 below you saw the results. never happen vikings haven t been to a superbowl since they went indoors
It looks nice but I would rather have the new stadium 🏟 in Missouri rather than Kansas though.
Arrowhead is the Chiefs home, always should be , No one in Missouri or Kansas really wants this new stadium. Lambeau and Arrowhead, that's all that left for the real football experience. Keep it where it is. Also, this is 22 miles from downtown. Stop now. Kansas really doesn't gain except bragging rights and DEBT !! You can not re-create Arrowhead !!
man, i like it, the stadium Coach Reid & Patrick Mahomes built. Coach, Reid leaves Phillly, goes to KC , promote one of his coaches, Veach to GM, we all know the rest of the story. Chiefs deserve a new stadium. If your an old head, like me, you remember Marty ball. If kansas is a better location, get it done. At all cost, let's keep the Kansas City Chiefs in Kansas City. Over the Bridge, or across. GO KC
Why not take that exterior and the roof and build it around Arrowhead?
Exactly mate
Well worth the 10 or so days a year the Chiefs will be playing a home game. I know, other events will be scheduled, but let's face it, if this gets built, the Chiefs are the reason.
Not really, don't forget a Super Bowls and NCAA Final Four. KC hasn't hosted a Final Four since 1988 because Arrowhead is not enclosed. Even so, KC has hosted the most Final Four's so far! Don't forget the World Cup too!
@@big12plus How many Super Bowl games will be played at the new stadium in the first 10 years of its existence? One? Two at most? Same with the Final Four. Who says they're getting the World Cup, and when might that be? Also, these are all one-off events - not an annual occurrence. To say the new stadium is about much more than the Chiefs is misleading IMO. These other events are just brief bonuses once the Chiefs start playing there.
Taking away our home field advantage. Seen teams hate coming to arrowhead around playoff time.
I think a refurbish of Arrowhead would be better. Arrowhead is just a special place.
That’s what the vote was a few weeks ago. It failed.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Because it didn't offer any improvements for the average fan.
It didn't even include a new locker room. 💀
It’s a modern version of arrowhead…Which is an absolute must. There is a certain energy and feel to Arrowhead which is the result of the interior setup and design. That must be replicated in any new Chiefs Stadium.
Since states are using taxpayer's money to build these stadiums they don't need anything special in the design.
Spend private money and make it as unique as you want.
The roof opening should be arrowhead shape. Not much different than a rectangle
Yo that's actually a sick idea. Make the glass roof the shape of an arrowhead. The light showing through in that shape would be sick
Yep, just like a rectangle…except for that pointy end, aka nothing like a rectangle
The design looks similar to Jerry’s place in Arlington Texas.
Yeah exactly, just make a pointy rectangle, but basically make the rectangle have three sides. Absolutely brilliant.
@@vancookem_No ... lmfao_
The future is going to be all in closed stadiums and no weather contacted games anymore
NFL sucks. Let it happen.
@@mrg8581 you’ve been d riding dome stadiums for months bro
Natural Grass, not Fake Turf!
@@Charlesthefidoif taxpayers are going to spend billions to pay for these things, let them get their money's worth by hosting a variety of events besides 10 Padded Rugby games a year. Roofs make that more possible
Pathetic that JCMO has been so good to this team for all these years and they say goodbye simply bc they didn't get their precious way. Clark Hunt makes me sick....
Most important they stay in the metro area. If you don't care about this, then you don't care about KC
@@markb3786 Icare bc I am angry. Don't tell me about KC. I've lived here all 66 yrs of my life and I hope the Chiefs move to ALASKA
Agreed and they're not just KC teams, they're Missouri teams as well.
@markb3786 What about Missouri cause they're both Missouri teams and not just KC teams.
Looks the same as where it is. The design is the updates that they were going to do on current.
We don't want a dome in Kansas City
_speak for yourself grandpa_
This possible stadium rendering was not leaked. It was presented to the KS Legislature yesterday (April 30th), the last day of the 2024 session. No one "paid" for this rendering, it's just to show what's possible. An actual rendering of what would be built would have Chief's input and would be different. The Chief's have until June '25 to make a deal with Kansas concerning the Star bonds, per local news reports. If you notice, there are no buildings in any direction of this complex rendering!?! Again, it's a possible design rendering. The actual proposed location is next to the Kansas Speedway, The Legions and the Sporting KC soccer stadium. Rumors are the stadium and speedway would share the same parking lot, like the Royals and Chiefs do at the Truman Sports Complex today. But to the west and south of the location is mostly open ground with scattered subdivisions. There are other counties in the KC metro area also interested hosting the Chiefs and Royals also. They too can use Star bonds with no local vote required.
And, Arrowhead is the third oldest stadium in the NFL.
Wasted time reviewing a rendering of an unapproved design. Might do more background research before making suggestions next time!
He never does thorough research before he puts out a video. He always half-does it.
I’ve known that he doesn’t do any research, but I feel like I’ve learned more from your comment than the actual video!
There is not "nothing" surrounding it. This would be directly adjacent to the Legends Retail area and Kansas Speedway race track. That being said, I would still prefer Arrowhead.
We don’t need nor want a new stadium!! It would tarnish a lot of what a home game for the chiefs mean!!
Looks like a medical hospital
Red Allegiant Stadium.
Not a few existing stadiums are built according to standard designs. This is a new generation design, which is based on the original design of the stadium in LA.
I’m not a Chiefs fan at all, but this ain’t it. Arrowhead is too special for average, this don’t have a wow factor
If the Chiefs get a new indoor stadium, we will drive up from Oklahoma to see it!!!! Dallas’s indoor AT&T Stadium is amazing, if the Chiefs can come close to that they will have a wonderful stadium that can and will be used year around with perfect indoor weather!!!!
I like the dome! They need to dome cold weather stadiums so it's a 12 month use place. Could be great for NCAA march madness and or Bowl Games. MetLife needs a dome ASAP!
dome sucks. they dont tell you how the heat fatigues faster than cold and also tends to tighten muscle from enclosed air
Not liking the glass in tornado land
Reminds me more of Glendale Arizona. Why would the Cheifs want to mess with the success of what they already have? Seems dumb.
Understand the domes are multiple use but it takes a lot away from the game eliminating the elements. I’m so glad the Bills didn’t go that route.
1. Within a 10 mile radius of the current stadium is nearly 1 million people. Withing a 10 mile radius of this is 100,000
2. The current stadium is 7 miles from downtown. This site is 14 miles
3. The current stadium is geographically centralized (a little more east) this is on the far west edge
4. Sunshine, Sunflowers, Sonsabitches
If There Are 1 Million People With•In A 10 Mile Radius, How Is It Possible That It’s A 900,000 Difference In People With•In 10 Miles Of This Radius? Not Being A Smart A55, Trying To Make Sense Of The Difference.
@@kappaman1994 Look at a map. Western KCK is very rural. The new stadium would be at 435 and I-70 on the KS side. It's the least populated part of all of metro KC. It's a quick drive to other parts of the metro.
Arrowhead is not directly surrounded by much. It's sort of industrial, but it's heavily populated in all directions once you get like a mile from the stadium.
@@kappaman1994 When I started looking for numbers it honestly shocked me as well, I thought the populations would be closer. But the current stadium is 6 miles east of the MO/KS border and 6 miles south of the MO river, a 10 mile radius includes all of KCMO, KCK, North KC, Independence, Raytown, Claycomo, & Leawood as well as half of Mission, Overland Park, and Lee's Summit.
This new site would include all of Bonner Springs & Basehor, most of Shawnee, and half of KCK. I could be lowballing Kansas, but it is definitely between 100k and 200k
@@TheRealCamPayne
@TheRealCamPayne It's kind of a moot conversation as a large chunk of the season ticket holders are in JOCO
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@TheRealCamPayne, I’m Sorry, I Was Speed Reading. As For Who Should Move Where, The Chiefs *Should* Move To The Kansas Side _&_ Go About It Alone. @ The Most, The Chiefs Would Host 11 Games (Regular _&_ Post Season), So Driving 🆙 To An Hour More In Both Directions 11 Times Would Not Affect The Chief’s Attendance (Still Would Be 💯% + Capacity)!! The 900,000 Difference In The Population Could/Would Have An Effect On The Chief’s Stadium District From *Monday•Friday*≅353 Days/Year. *If* The Kansas Side Stadium Is A Retractable Roof Or Dome Stadium, Then It Would Be Guaranteed To Host More Events _&_ Possibly Along With The Land To Accommodate Plenty Of 🅿, The District Could Make It Easily.
The Population Difference Between The 2️⃣ Areas Would Have More Of An Impact On The Royal’s ⚾️Games. Isn’t The Reasoning For Their Move Downtown Is To Increase Attendance? If So, The *Royals* Have To Make Downtown Proposal Work.
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I've been a fan since 1966. I believe the Hunt family owes us the fans not the other way around. You see some of us stood by the Chiefs when they weren't that great of a team thru all those years.
Lamar brought the team to MISSOURI, and it should stay here. Seperate from the Royals trying to grt that boondoggle built over 12 lanes of I70 Downtown with everyone being shuttled in.
Frank White can eat his empty buildings down there he stands to make millions from or whatever his issue is. He's the only one pushing for that so it's my guess he's getting some financial gain from it somehow.
Pay up or lose your team
Exactly mate, after all they're a real Missouri team and not just the KC team.
For anyone wondering, the proposed location in this rendering is the northeast corner of I-70 and I-435. I expected a stadium would go west of the speedway, but maybe this makes more sense so traffic on gamedays wouldn't be tied up with all the traffic on the west side of 435.
It would be really cool to have the outside structure shaped like the arrow on the helmet. The one enzone seating part would be shaped in the point of the arrow end the other end would be glass and could be open some for ventilation. Plus some seating there. Or you could have the arrow point end of the structure be the glass end for ventilation with a stands section there thats straight but lower than the top of the staduim. And put the roof on top with the KC in red that lights up. So when you fly above this stadium it looks just like the logo on the helmet. Incorporate a lot of red and white on the out side of the structure. Some in pillars holdind up dome. Use some yellow also. Use a lot of lighting on the roof and arround foundation . For nights.
_Nobody finna read all dat lmfao_
The designer said this was something he was playing around with, not a legit look
It’s not bad but why replace something that’s been very successful? I can’t imagine watching a chiefs game there vs arrowhead
I agree. I love Truman Sports Complex, and always will, but the area around it, for some reason or another, never really developed. There's nothing around it but a bunch of industrial buildings and a Dennys. The Legends area, where this stadium is proposed, is already a well established entertainment district. Like it or not, today's fans don't just want to go see the game, they want a bunch of other things to do too.
Myself, I'm getting to the age where I would rather watch a Chiefs or a KState game on my couch. Plus, we're all Steelers fans in my house, so I really don't care what happens with Arrowhead...
...but, I know the day is coming when my Royals move out of Kauffman Stadium, and I will be heartbroken. I also don't believe tax-payers should foot the bill either, unless it will be used for Kansas High School State Championships, (which it won't) KU and KState games, etc. Not just Chiefs games and concerts.
Arrowhead will be 52 years old before the 2024 regular season starts. At least this place is old enough to have gray hair, unlike Cleveland’s stadium. Arrowhead is the third oldest. I know the stadium outside of Buffalo was built on a shoestring budget, how is Arrowhead holding up? Yes, the Bills are getting a new stadium.
Because the stadium is getting old, to the point where it’s starting to cost tens of millions (or more) in maintenance. It doesn’t have any of the amenities that fans & owners want & it’s not set up to be able to adjust to new tech that will be coming in the next 10-30 years.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 what new tech? What stadium can “adjust” to something in the future?
Chiefs stadium is raggedy and big concrete bowl
All new stadiums look exactly the same. Testing down arrowhead for this would be a travesty
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Should of voted for the tax, now you have no voice.
@mikemitchell8329 why should the taxpayers pay for this?
@@joedimaggio3687 ask your Jackson county people, and the sport authority, someone is making a lot of money and it's not going back to Arrowhead or the Royals, the mayor sure is looking cool in those 2000 dollar suits though
So sad to see the NFL moving to an all dome stadium. Cause some precious fans can't support cold weather
Leave it alone... it is the loudest in the world
I like it, Sure they all look the same but that's because they are following a good design
They can at least give them a unique character to them though like Minnesota and Atlanta's super domed stadiums. They got pretty lazy with the interior design. Give it some character at least.
Looks like a bloated Noah’s Ark. Not on board too generic.
Don't like it. Should at least have some Arrowhead shape to the entire surrounding area. Seem like a huge miss on some easy design elements. Better be loud and I'd prefer it have less glass and screen where seats should be. Love the no bad seat feel of Arrowhead, so interior seating needs to maintain that special steep stack of the tiers that GEHA has now.
oh my gosh, the parkimg is alot smaller. bad choice if they do it. hugh revenue loss for kc too. bad leaders
I get the frozen mustache and extreme cold of last season on display but what's with the NFL's rush to put all these teams into domes?
Isn't football best played outside?
Clark Hunt probably wants a Super Bowl in Kansas City
That's why all the fields down south get all the Superbowls, outside football is not a pleasant experience in February, fans have gotten soft and frostbite is very real
Gone are the days of having football games outside, soon the NFL will be arena football league 2.0 and we all know how that happened.
Because NFL stadiums only get to host 10 games each year, not including any playoff games. For the rest of the year on those 355 days, they sit empty and unused. If there's a dome it allows teams to host additional sporting events, concerts, and conventions that require controlled environments. This earns them more money. I mean think about it, do you think the Kansas Jayhawks basketball team would benefit from having a Final Four 30 minutes from their campus?
@@loganleroy8622 Arrowhead is used for events and big concerts in Spring and summer so...
The State of Kansas didn’t vote on the bond issue before they adjourned for the summer.
That's true, but, sounds like Gov. Kelly is going to call the Leg. back into a "Special Session" for a tax bill. The Leg. can work any bill they want during these 3 days. I think the biggest problem will be this is an election year for both the House and Senate. Might not want to run on a new stadium issue?!?
Hopefully that I keep it in Kansas City Missouri
It’s gonna be a sad day when all NFL stadiums are indoor. 😢
I agree. I can’t root for the packers but they’ll be the only team and Buffalo left with an open air outdoor stadium. That’s just disappointing.
It's going to be beautiful. Hopefully, all baseball stadiums will have retractable roof. No more rain delays for the rest of our lives.
@@Mrcharles. But the Seahawks, Patriots, Broncos, Dolphins, Buccaneers, 49ers, Browns, Bengals, and Giants/Jets all have outdoor stadiums too?
@@bobbobson8087 Cross the browns off that list assuming they get a new domed stadium but yes those teams you mentioned currently play outside and that’s the way it’s supposed to be.
@@bobbobson8087Browns Bengals and Jets are trying to cross themselves off that list. And it's only a matter of time before the rest do too. It's fucking stupid.
Can't believe you didn't mention it but, love the exterior shape. Similar to how Arrowhead's shape is.
Judging by the comments here, you may be the only person smart enough to see that.
Looks like a shopping center out in the middle of nowhere
The renderings show the stadium on the northeast corner of the I-70 and 435 interchange, but it's not the north that is undeveloped, it's the southside of the location. The are plenty of businesses north of the proposed location and you have the Legends shopping area along with the Kansas Speedway, Sporting Park, and Monarchs baseball to the northwest. Plenty of nearby places.
so did i miss it? is this out where CMP and the speedway are both located?
I wish this stadium would be built closer to the city.
Chief stadium is in a Urban area and 10 mins from downtown already
Agreed
When a team hires Manica Architecture, we all know by now what to expect.
Build a new stadium for the Chiefs, and Browns make all into a dome for future super bowl.
So wtf are just all new NFL stadiums indoors now??
The NFL has established a dome requirement to host the Super Bowl. So if you're building a new football stadium you may as well build a covered/dome stadium and have a shot of hosting the NFL championship.
Yes, teams want to host Super Bowls and events year round. Right now NFL teams are only guaranteed 8-9 reg season gms and 1-2 preseason games. So thats only 10-11 days out the whole year a stadium is making $. Besides the west coast and Florida stadiums; all future stadiums will have a dome or retraceable roof. #ChiefsKingdom
Buffalo and Green Bay will still be outdoors.
@@micahhayes8770 Lambeau is staying without a dome for a long time
@@matthewwells2017 True. Them and Buffalo probably ain't ever getting a dome..#Chiefs
I think they would be better off putting a version of the LAR/LAC roof design over the top of the existing stadium, instead of a three way pillar design, it should go to a 4 way. Could have the logo at each pillar location and the roof.
Imagine if the roof was similar to SoFi, but in a triangle design similar to an arrowhead.
@@loganleroy8622it would be huge, and look sweet, good idea.
You must be blind! Its literally Arrowhead Stadium with a roof. Saying it'd be nice if they did the upper deck like Arrowhead. IT IS! Even the scoreboard is the same shape. 😅😅
No it's not lol
No, it's literally a copy/paste of Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas.
F kANSAS... The Chiefs belong in Missouri. KCMO. The Kansas City, KS Chiefs would leave a very bitter taste in my mouth.
I hope they don't move to Kansas or Texas
I think it looks pretty good.
It may not be "unique", but i don't know what people expect. It's clean, and as long as it's comfortable and gives fans a good view of everything, it's perfectly fine by me.
looking like the mother ship
The glass on the outside is in the shape of arrowhead
Renovate Arrowhead
there is something demonic about the shapes amd all..like a big eyeball. bad design
I hate indoor fields. Football is an outdoors sport. The end of weather games is the end of football. Its just a product from that point on.
The weather has changed since we invented football it's not the fact that it's meant to be played outside it's the weather has gotten different and it just matters now to be safe inside and not have to worry
Didn't people lose parts of their feet due to FROSTBITE from that playoff game against the Dolphins? Honestly, I don't mind them building a dome. I hope they do a retractable field to bring inside during games and all.
Yea, while we're at it, let's bring back leather helmets and clothes line tackles! The only thing that hasn't changed in football is the field size. As an owner, I won't want players I'm paying millions of dollars being hurt due to poor weather conditions! Anyone who went to the Miami game really enjoy themselves? 🥶
It reminds me of Arizona Cardinals
This man don't know what he's talking about. There is a ENTERTAINMENT District right across the highway. The Kansas Speedway is out there and there is a Casino is out there. That what stadiums are looking for .
This is a terrible design. This is the kind of stadium a crappy team should have.
Absolutely will never happen.
what a slap in the face to loyal chiefs fans who have been spending billions, owners should pay the bill not taxpayers!! shame on him for trying to go somewhere else to get taxpayer money shame!
Ooooo quit crying. Should have paid the 3/8 tax.
It will still be the Kansas City Chiefs!! Guess what Johnson County which is in Kansas have the most season ticket holder.
@@wolandastarr7697 thank you!!
The inside of the stadium looks like State Farm Stadium
Roll out grass field like Allegiant Stadium...costly, but fantastic idea. ✌️
Do you (general you) want really nice or even more costly and more unique? that has the potential for a great complex. Arrowhead is awesome though, I know owners just want all the new and flashy and makes their bottom line worth more money if they sell.
I like it. I also think the Royals should stay at Kaufmann and redevelop the surrounding area
Nothing wrong with Arrowhead.
Sure, let's just raise taxes on people who don't have any money in a horrible economy.
This is a Star bond, not a tax increase.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Star bonds are paid for by local income tax and sales tax.
"Yes it is."
The rendering has no press box. The designer claims the Chiefs had no input to the rendering.
Might as well go to Kansas two-thirds the stadium is filled with people from KS every Sunday anyway. Can you imagine a dome how loud wow! Go job Lucas! *****
When will your state get their crap together so they don’t have to leech off Missouri?
Such a downgrade from arrowhead. I truly wish if they're desperate for a dome they just upgrade a roof over arrowhead
No new stadium will ever have the upper deck like arrowhead, regulations won't allow it. Which will be the saddest part if they end up leaving.. Arrowhead is a major homefield advantage. It will still be good, but not like what we have now. And I think you've got it all wrong, if you want to replace Arrowhead and want it to be received well publicly (at least by local fans, and that's all that matters really) the last thing you want to is have a WOW and CRAZY design that looks "cool". That sounds terrible, and in 5 years after it's built it will be "out of style" Arrowhead is 52 years old, it's still one of if not the best overall looking stadiums in the league and its look will literally last till the end of time. I would say the majority of chiefs fans would prefer a traditional, classic stadium over some dumb future looking stadium.
Why this stadium 2 billion but the Bears stadium is projected to be 7 billion?
The extra money in Chicago is for things around the stadium, not just stadium construction. Team owners think part of a stadium design must include a hotel or office space and some restaurant space.
The design should include the field with natural grass that roll out on rails for sun light and irrigation. The floor should be concrete and the field should have some type of padding protect the players regardless of the sporting event. The roof should be able to open and close. The locker room should be extremely large and luxurious with many features that existing stadiums do not have. The food coach areas should be inviting and luxurious for fans and visitors. It should have many restaurants that offer great food and service during the season and off season. A glass roof is a great idea as long as it has features to melt snow and protect against hail damage. The restroom should be large with large stools and privacy. Ideas, ideas and more ideas. Make it a 3.5 billion dollars facility with outside venues.
Is nothing sacred?
I think if they cross the river, you'll see way more fans from Topeka and Lawrence going to games
They won't be crossing any river, and the season ticket holders makeup won't change much. The two location are only 20 miles apart.
@@markb3786 that proposed location is across the Kansas River
Would it still be arrowhead?