You are correct! I could've swore I read on their website that their bison leather is from seidel but it was only for the peanut bison leather. I almost got the peanut bison leather instead of the brown bison which is why I thought the brown bison was from seidel as well.
I love the bison leather because of its texture. I have pairs from different makers in Cognac, Black Cherry, and Walnut. But in my case not purchased for work boots. I expect the leather to do well under working conditions, though. Enjoyable video.
Hi mate, nice video. Yes, I was also wondering the tannery of the bison leather at first. I saw EDHBlvd's comment. all clear now. I want to if the leather of the roughout, is it also brown bison leather as well? this pair looking really good mate.
They look great. Never saw a six inch Builder Pro, either. Also, one reason you might not feel as much arch support aside from heel height is that many boots on the 55 have a lineman shank and I see this does not. Just an idea, I may be wrong.
a lineman shank is not standard on a two piece outsole.. ( in this case, a Vibram v100 Commando Full Sole with matching heel lift) lineman shanks are often used with 55 last boots that come with a wedge sole though.. that is because they need that shank to get the heel of the boot up to the appropriate height to incorporate that higher degree of arch support that the 55 last inherently features... Now.., you could certainly have a 55 last PNW boot with a v100 AND a lineman shank... AND a double mid-sole too (while we're at it) lol, but that is definitely not standard procedure.. and those will be extra costs.. and now makes the boot considered a 'custom MTO 'made to order' type of boot now.. the only reason you would want a lineman shank and/or double mid-sole if you already have a PNW sized mid-sole piece,, is if you actually are a lineman or arborist or something in that line of work.. sure you could get it for style or aesthetic reasons.. but it would not be worth doing.. it would not be very comfortable.. and nearly impossible to break in.. the other reason the wedge sole boots with a 55 have the lineman shank, is bc wedge sole boots don't usually have a true midsole,, sometimes they just have a slip sole.. or a really thin mid-sole and slip sole (usually comprised of rubber) .. my JK OT boots are technically a lug sole with a lineman shank,, BUT.. they are still flexible, because there is no mid-sole So.., the arch support vs heel height situation is interesting.. it can often go one of two ways.. so you need heel height to have more arch, yes.. BUT.. if you lower the heel.. and still put the same amount of leather shank material in, you'd actually feel more of an arch bc you lowered the heel.. but in this case..., Nick's either.. 1. decided for him that it might be uncomfortable and used less leather than he would normally have received for the shank area.. or 2. saw this as a way to save on having to use more leather.. I personally,, would rather have had the lower heel with the same arch height ( i like alot of arch height) ... but at the same time,, you really shouldn't play with your heel height on arch specific lasts.. it was intended for a certain heel height, toe spring, and arch.. changing any of that offsets the balance of the last
That's a good-looking boot! I have several pairs from both whites and nicks all in different leathers . my Nick's Urban logger's Olive bison might be my favorite . I wish I would have got the honey vibram sole it is definitely softer than the black v100. I live in Spokane I had Frank's resole my White's hand stitchdown bounty huntersdo to a honey vibram they did a really good job . great customer service very friendly ! if I ever get another pair I would definitely try Franks!
great stuff! really like the color on the 'smooth'/grain side.. i did a combo like that on my Drew's that i use for work,, there's pros n cons.. the roughout vamp does avoid deeper scratches true.., but it also makes it harder to get dust, dirt, and debris out more thoroughly.. but it all works out at the end of the day.. congrats,, if you decide to get another pair.., give Frank's a try : ) i have two on the way,, I'm already a huge White's fan..i like Wesco.. Viberg, etc.. but I think Frank's might be a cut above them all
Thank you! I really do think if I get another PNW boot I want to get one from Franks. I have went on their website a few times. Do you have any casual boot recommendations? And what leather options from them would you recommend?
@@DavidsGarage1972 their website is awful... i would go on their Instagram and their Facebook group.. that's where you will see what they're really capable of.. the website is boring and outdated.. also, when you order, i would do it over the phone.. not on the website..
Well, you're collecting boots, so don't know what kind of work or how you can choose to be harder on some than others or whatever, so for me the 1 month review is more useful than the unboxing but a 2 month would likely be even MORE useful if they are still getting rotated in with some regularity for overall comparisons or if you are just abandoning the previous pair mostly once you get a new one, etc.
Also, I wonder about the ankle support from the bison compared to the usual thick cowhide, but this would likely matter more for outdoor use like hiking and such.
I got the OT ones with the lower heel and similar less arch support like these and I feel like my feet hurt more walking in them than the logger heel, tho. I'm still trying to figure some things out regarding width and sizing and such before I say too much about any specific brand or model, but I will probably rebuild them once I wear the sole a bit more to make them more logger style since I bought them to use as warm weather hiking boots and can see already that I won't use them as they are for this purpose.
that other guy already left a comment regarding heel height and arch support that I think is accurate, but I was curious about the scalloped midsole or whatever and all the other stuff Rose A and Carl M said, blah, blah, although I was pretty certain it was more of a gimmick than a useful feature.
@@Highland_Paddy A higher temper leather would offer better ankle support than a bison leather. But I wasn't worried about ankle support as I wanted a flexible leather with a light break in.
If you take the boots to local cobbler they may not do it The machine can't do the work need and the best to have Nicks resole them if you want them the way they new
That's true some cobblers won't resole stitchdown constructed boots, and those that do will usually do it by hand which will make the resole pretty costly
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I thought the Bison they used is from Law Tanning?
I thought so as well
You are correct! I could've swore I read on their website that their bison leather is from seidel but it was only for the peanut bison leather. I almost got the peanut bison leather instead of the brown bison which is why I thought the brown bison was from seidel as well.
I love the bison leather because of its texture. I have pairs from different makers in Cognac, Black Cherry, and Walnut. But in my case not purchased for work boots. I expect the leather to do well under working conditions, though. Enjoyable video.
Beautiful boots. I would like to try some bison one day
Hi mate, nice video. Yes, I was also wondering the tannery of the bison leather at first. I saw EDHBlvd's comment. all clear now. I want to if the leather of the roughout, is it also brown bison leather as well? this pair looking really good mate.
Yes the roughout on my boots in this video is also the brown bison leather, same as the smooth out on the quarters
@@DavidsGarage1972 Thank you mate! Nice video!
Thank you!
They look great. Never saw a six inch Builder Pro, either. Also, one reason you might not feel as much arch support aside from heel height is that many boots on the 55 have a lineman shank and I see this does not. Just an idea, I may be wrong.
yes they offer a 6 inch on Builder pro now
a lineman shank is not standard on a two piece outsole.. ( in this case, a Vibram v100 Commando Full Sole with matching heel lift) lineman shanks are often used with 55 last boots that come with a wedge sole though.. that is because they need that shank to get the heel of the boot up to the appropriate height to incorporate that higher degree of arch support that the 55 last inherently features...
Now.., you could certainly have a 55 last PNW boot with a v100 AND a lineman shank... AND a double mid-sole too (while we're at it) lol, but that is definitely not standard procedure.. and those will be extra costs.. and now makes the boot considered a 'custom MTO 'made to order' type of boot now.. the only reason you would want a lineman shank and/or double mid-sole if you already have a PNW sized mid-sole piece,, is if you actually are a lineman or arborist or something in that line of work.. sure you could get it for style or aesthetic reasons.. but it would not be worth doing.. it would not be very comfortable.. and nearly impossible to break in..
the other reason the wedge sole boots with a 55 have the lineman shank, is bc wedge sole boots don't usually have a true midsole,, sometimes they just have a slip sole.. or a really thin mid-sole and slip sole (usually comprised of rubber) .. my JK OT boots are technically a lug sole with a lineman shank,, BUT.. they are still flexible, because there is no mid-sole
So.., the arch support vs heel height situation is interesting.. it can often go one of two ways..
so you need heel height to have more arch, yes.. BUT.. if you lower the heel.. and still put the same amount of leather shank material in, you'd actually feel more of an arch bc you lowered the heel.. but in this case..., Nick's either.. 1. decided for him that it might be uncomfortable and used less leather than he would normally have received for the shank area.. or 2. saw this as a way to save on having to use more leather..
I personally,, would rather have had the lower heel with the same arch height ( i like alot of arch height) ... but at the same time,, you really shouldn't play with your heel height on arch specific lasts.. it was intended for a certain heel height, toe spring, and arch.. changing any of that offsets the balance of the last
That's a good-looking boot! I have several pairs from both whites and nicks all in different leathers . my Nick's Urban logger's Olive bison might be my favorite . I wish I would have got the honey vibram sole it is definitely softer than the black v100. I live in Spokane I had Frank's resole my White's hand stitchdown bounty huntersdo to a honey vibram they did a really good job . great customer service very friendly ! if I ever get another pair I would definitely try Franks!
Getting a boot from Franks is definitely toward the top of the list of boots I wanna buy next
great stuff! really like the color on the 'smooth'/grain side..
i did a combo like that on my Drew's that i use for work,, there's pros n cons..
the roughout vamp does avoid deeper scratches true.., but it also makes it harder to get
dust, dirt, and debris out more thoroughly.. but it all works out at the end of the day..
congrats,, if you decide to get another pair.., give Frank's a try : ) i have two on the way,,
I'm already a huge White's fan..i like Wesco.. Viberg, etc.. but I think Frank's might be a cut above them all
Thank you! I really do think if I get another PNW boot I want to get one from Franks. I have went on their website a few times. Do you have any casual boot recommendations? And what leather options from them would you recommend?
@@DavidsGarage1972 their website is awful... i would go on their Instagram and their Facebook group.. that's where you will see what they're really capable of..
the website is boring and outdated.. also, when you order, i would do it over the phone.. not on the website..
Well, you're collecting boots, so don't know what kind of work or how you can choose to be harder on some than others or whatever, so for me the 1 month review is more useful than the unboxing but a 2 month would likely be even MORE useful if they are still getting rotated in with some regularity for overall comparisons or if you are just abandoning the previous pair mostly once you get a new one, etc.
Also, I wonder about the ankle support from the bison compared to the usual thick cowhide, but this would likely matter more for outdoor use like hiking and such.
I got the OT ones with the lower heel and similar less arch support like these and I feel like my feet hurt more walking in them than the logger heel, tho. I'm still trying to figure some things out regarding width and sizing and such before I say too much about any specific brand or model, but I will probably rebuild them once I wear the sole a bit more to make them more logger style since I bought them to use as warm weather hiking boots and can see already that I won't use them as they are for this purpose.
that other guy already left a comment regarding heel height and arch support that I think is accurate, but I was curious about the scalloped midsole or whatever and all the other stuff Rose A and Carl M said, blah, blah, although I was pretty certain it was more of a gimmick than a useful feature.
@@Highland_Paddy A higher temper leather would offer better ankle support than a bison leather. But I wasn't worried about ankle support as I wanted a flexible leather with a light break in.
@@Highland_Paddy regarding the midsole, I'm not familiar with that type of midsole? Is that something Nicks does on it's boots?
If you take the boots to local cobbler they may not do it The machine can't do the work need and the best to have Nicks resole them if you want them the way they new
That's true some cobblers won't resole stitchdown constructed boots, and those that do will usually do it by hand which will make the resole pretty costly