Great explanation ..... I now understand the principle clearly. So the level on the handle of a lawn mower controls the amount of revs you want the motor to do ( more or less) and then the governor keeps the motor in that rev range. Thanks for a great effort.
Awesome info. You just cleared it up for me. Had an understanding and now you helped me understand it 100%. Free info and they complain about video quality. Ignore them
Yip, this is the only video i've seen thus far that actually explains it rather well. Other videos seem to rely on "vague explanations " where one finishes thinking that the person who made the video isn't as sue of how it works either!! Really enjoyed this, despite the violent camera movements :)
Thank you . I finally found an explanation as to what exactly the governor does ,including the springs and weights . Never saw that in cars so I got stuck with a kawasaki engine that im working on , I tried adjusting it without knowing how it worked and just walked away from it . I'll get it working properly tomorrow .
Thanks for taking the trouble to explain how the governor works. I now have a better understand. I won’t comment on the camera work, because you said at the beginning it wouldn’t be great and the purpose of the video was to bang out the information 👍
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain how the govenor works on a small engine. I concur!! We are all better off with gaining knowledge versus quick fix videos. Don't worry about the quality of your cinematography, considering this was your first video, you did a great job. Please keep it up! well done M8ty
I was so riveted to your excellent explanation that I didn't notice the camera work others complained about. I agree compared to yours I found others I watched lacking as well.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain how the govenor works on a small engine. We are all better off with gaining knowledge versus quick fix videos. Don't worry about the quality of your cinematography, considering this was your first video, you did a great job. Please keep it up!
A good explanation of the mechanical process of how the governor balances the speed of the engine rpm's to adapt to various load conditions. Very helpful to see the actual weights in action on the wall display. I learned something from this video. Thanks for posting it. This has me wondering however if it would be possible to disconnect the governor linkage to the throttle control on the carb and the spring on the governor arm, thereby rendering the governor useless. If I then simply installed a throttle cable to connect to the carb's throttle control, as is found on a lot of tillers, would that not work and allow me to control the motor speed myself?
It could be done, but its set at a certain speed for a reason, it can also be very hard to run higher but still at a speed that will not prematurely destroy your engine. Spring tension, spring position or shaft adjustment.
It allows the engine to maintain revs when the wood splitter pump encounters a load, it is just like the cruise control on your car when you get to a hill, throttle changes to maintain your road speed.
Is an engine with a governor constantly trying to slow itself down and the throttle is keeping the carb open? Does the butterfly close due to the governor as you turn the throttle down? It doesn’t appear to be mechanically closed by the linkage.
Question, my push mower RPMs ran out of control after replacing the oil pan/sump gasket. It started right up with no leaks but the RPMs were running out of control. I killed the engine, loosened the governor arm nut, and moved the governor arm left towards slower throttle speeds, tightened the nut and RPMs went back to normal. However, the manual said i should have moved the governor arm all the way right to wide open throttle, turn the governor shaft clockwise, and set it there. I tried that and it made the RPMs go out of control again. Is there something wrong with the way I fixed it by setting the gov arm towards throttle side to find a good RPM?
My toro powerlite is reving out of control for about the first 3-4 minutes and then it slows down to normal. Haven't had a chance to open up the back panel to take a look, but I imagine that something in the governor linkage is freezing up. We've had some pretty cold weather in WI. What do you think? Is the internal weight/rod sticking?
I had to order a new governor oil slinger. When I got my new item, the plastic gear is stiff and requires a bit of force by hand to turn. in the past all governors I have dealt with would spin freely by hand. Do you think I have a defective governor? I really need to get my mower working as my grass is getting high.
Got an MTD 5 hp Tecumseh snowblower when I get in to heavy snow engine bogs down, and won't blow the snow, is it governor or carburetor problem, put a new carburetor kit in fuel and air/fuel mixture adjustments respond good. Adjusted governor clockwise on shaft as far as it will go, then have tried various position on lever rod, to get full motion on carburetor shaft, springs are in original holes, that I marked, but still doing same thing under load, no power?
Hi Gust, it could be, hard to say, are revs high enough, did problem exist before work on carb. perhaps a linkage or spring is not in correct positiob or is damaged. do you know if its a weight or fan governor.
I have a HONDA 6.5 HP overhead valve engine that refuses to start even thought there is spark and fuel. I haven't checked the compression with a gauge but it has compression. Thumb over the plug hole. I thought the fly wheel key might of stripped because trying to start it sounded like the timing was out and it would backfire back through the carburetor. Key way aok. Tried a new plug and new carb. I guess nothing else left but to whip off the head.
Your description leaves a lot of questions still. Try to remember this you really touched on all three things that are required for an engine to run. Spark, fuel, timing. I think your conclusion of tearing the head off is the best answer to start if you know for certain the carburetor is working properly. If the timing is off on the small engines they will not run. So under the head or into the head is your valves. They must be checked. Other than that take all the gas out of the engine, turn the engine over and spray some starting fluid in it, if it runs like a champion your problem is the carburetor. If it still doesn’t run your problem could be timing or spark. Good luck! 👍 Oh and check in compression with your thumb is not a good indicator.
Thank you for the excellent exploded view of the engine, and the explanation. Unfortunately I had to vomit half way through because of motion sickness. I can't even understand how your camera can shake so much when you seem to be stationary. I encourage you to continue your videos but please use a tripod or a decent camera with image stabilization. The average iPhone has pretty darn good stabilization. With your manipulations, I'd definitely go with multiple cuts and a tripod.
Thank you for making this video....but it would be so much better if you can stop moving the camera so much. Pictures that move so much make me feel sick :-( (motion sickness)
so, really on a go kart, why would they totally remove it ? I can't see how it would really add much extra power,, ... If I'm correct and they would want more take off power coming out of a corner, why not just add a stronger spring ???? if they would want more top end I would think they would get ahead by changing the rear sprocket .. correct ?? "" me and kids have been getting into back yard race karts, just trying to understand it all :)""
quad2004 im not sure if i fully understand your questions, the governor is usually set not to go higher than a certain rpm, taking it off allows you to take the engine to a higher rpm. wheel size and sprocket size will affect acceleration and top speed
Hi I understand your question. The answer is this. Removal of the governor does not make your engine more powerful. For take off at full throttle Your engine will accelerate exactly the same. The butterfly in the carb is fully open. You were going from idle to full throttle. The governor does not stop this. Your engine governor is set to maximum rpm setting, that Is where the governor will top of your maximum rpm achieved. The removal of the governor will let the engine RPMs rev higher only after the same amount of RPMs are achieved with a similar engine with the governor. You do not have to take your engine apart to remove the governor arm. You would have to directly attached your throttle to butterfly on the carburetor directly. So without the governor attached to the throttle your engine can rev higher. But there is a maximum before the engine will self-destruct or stop creating more power. The power produced by RPMs put on a chart is not a straight line. It peaks out near the highest RPM range and then drops off. That is another topic completely. So for TopSpeed without the governor your engine can rev higher and you will go faster but you will not take off faster. Changing sprockets on mini bikes or go karts can make you have a faster top speed but you will lose acceleration power, you will accelerate slower to that higher top speed. Switching your sprockets the other direction you can takeoff much faster and have a lower top speed but can accelerate much faster. That balance of acceleration to top speed is what building race cars race motorcycles mini bikes go carts lawnmowers dragster’s jet planes, is all about it is a power to weight ratio looking for the supreme balance and delivery to acceleration and TopSpeed. The whole hobby the whole gearhead person the racer the mechanical engineer that is the whole purpose of their life…lol So honestly if you want your minibike or go cart to accelerate faster and have a faster top speed, it’s all about aerodynamics, my brother.Look closely at the definitions for these things: Torque, horsepower, they are not the same. You have a thing called the peak of diminishing returns. Once you reach the max there is no more, from the Particular engine you were talking about.
You said you haven't seen any good videos on how a governor works. Have you looked at your own video? Basiome has it right: The shaky hand on the camera gives one a major case of the dizzies. If you think this is a good video, I'd hate to see what you call a bad or substandard video. Don't mean to be so critical, but sheesh! Good info, but shaky video negates the good stuff.
i see that YOU know how a governor works,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT your explanation is very poor...........like so many other videos on u tube......there is too much back and forth with your explanation,,,,,,,,,,,it is confusing and not clear at all........if i wanted to learn how the governor works and this was the first video i saw i would not be confident that i have a good understanding of the governor......sometimes you could hardly make out what you were saying...... the camera work was lacking,,,,,,,,...i only watched half the video, got too frustrated to watch anymore..........maybe the last half got better ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if so ,i apologize..........P.S. i wanted to give you a fair chance so i watched the last half,,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry to say,,,,,,,,,,,ALMOST WORSE THAN THE FIRST HALF..........your last words were,,,,,,,,,,THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,THAT'S THE PROBLEM,,,,,,,,,,,,THE WAY YOU EXPLAIN IT..........maybe to someone who already knows about a governor you could help them along and point out some things,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but to a beginner,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,leave it to somebody else.............DON'T MEAN TO SOUND BRUTAL BUT................
No worries YArd limit, you sound like you have too much spare time on your hands, and dont know what the fuck you are talking about. By the way, Tarentino is on the phone, wondering if you can help direct his next epic.
Your lack of camera ability is only exceeded by your pedagogical failings. You may have a complete understanding of the subject, but you fail comprehensively to confer that knowledge to the viewer. After watching this, I am older but no wiser
Great explanation ..... I now understand the principle clearly. So the level on the handle of a lawn mower controls the amount of revs you want the motor to do ( more or less) and then the governor keeps the motor in that rev range. Thanks for a great effort.
Finally, I found a video that explains clearly what a governor does. Thanks so much for the great tutorial.
Awesome info. You just cleared it up for me. Had an understanding and now you helped me understand it 100%. Free info and they complain about video quality. Ignore them
Yip, this is the only video i've seen thus far that actually explains it rather well. Other videos seem to rely on "vague explanations " where one finishes thinking that the person who made the video isn't as sue of how it works either!! Really enjoyed this, despite the violent camera movements :)
Thank you . I finally found an explanation as to what exactly the governor does ,including the springs and weights . Never saw that in cars so I got stuck with a kawasaki engine that im working on , I tried adjusting it without knowing how it worked and just walked away from it . I'll get it working properly tomorrow .
Thanks for taking the trouble to explain how the governor works. I now have a better understand. I won’t comment on the camera work, because you said at the beginning it wouldn’t be great and the purpose of the video was to bang out the information 👍
That was expertly explained. I'm getting a handle on this now Thank-you
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain how the govenor works on a small engine. I concur!! We are all better off with gaining knowledge versus quick fix videos. Don't worry about the quality of your cinematography, considering this was your first video, you did a great job. Please keep it up! well done M8ty
If there is any thing else you want to know how it works, maybe i could help out. My updated channel is BezED
I never found such a good explanation. Been looking for a while now for a good one. Thank you very much
I was so riveted to your excellent explanation that I didn't notice the camera work others complained about. I agree compared to yours I found others I watched lacking as well.
This video is perfect. RUclips needed a video like this! I finally understand how the governor works! Thank you for creating this video.
thanks mate! Best explanation that I have seen
Great video. That helped me a ton. I love working on engines and learning about its operation in its simplisti form.
If there is any thing else you want to know how it works, maybe i could help out. My updated channel is BezED
All the camera movement makes a person dizzy.
The speaker is as hard to pay attention to as his video is to watch .. Useless video
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain how the govenor works on a small engine. We are all better off with gaining knowledge versus quick fix videos. Don't worry about the quality of your cinematography, considering this was your first video, you did a great job. Please keep it up!
If there is any thing else you want to know how it works, maybe i could help out. My updated channel is BezED
Thank you so much. I really learn from you. More grease to your elbow and more wisdom always. Tripod is needed for the camera. Thank you.
Thanks Richard, Very well presented.
Great video! Thank you! How much play is tve Governor arm supposed to have when the spring is released?
very well explained. just what i needed to know.
If there is any thing else you want to know how it works, maybe i could help out. My updated channel is BezED
A good explanation of the mechanical process of how the governor balances the speed of the engine rpm's to adapt to various load conditions. Very helpful to see the actual weights in action on the wall display. I learned something from this video. Thanks for posting it.
This has me wondering however if it would be possible to disconnect the governor linkage to the throttle control on the carb and the spring on the governor arm, thereby rendering the governor useless. If I then simply installed a throttle cable to connect to the carb's throttle control, as is found on a lot of tillers, would that not work and allow me to control the motor speed myself?
good vid. could have been shortened, but I still learned what I had to learn.
Glad to hear
Thank you for a very informative video.
My question is can you adjust the governor to rev higher and how would one do it?
It could be done, but its set at a certain speed for a reason, it can also be very hard to run higher but still at a speed that will not prematurely destroy your engine. Spring tension, spring position or shaft adjustment.
Nice video. Thanks. I still don’t understand a governor on a wood splitter. Do u. Where r u from mate???
It allows the engine to maintain revs when the wood splitter pump encounters a load, it is just like the cruise control on your car when you get to a hill, throttle changes to maintain your road speed.
@@bezzed4388 ok. I kinda understand now. Thanks so much
Is an engine with a governor constantly trying to slow itself down and the throttle is keeping the carb open? Does the butterfly close due to the governor as you turn the throttle down? It doesn’t appear to be mechanically closed by the linkage.
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Good teaching aid samples
very nicely explained...thanks.
If there is any thing else you want to know how it works, maybe i could help out. My updated channel is BezED
Question, my push mower RPMs ran out of control after replacing the oil pan/sump gasket. It started right up with no leaks but the RPMs were running out of control. I killed the engine, loosened the governor arm nut, and moved the governor arm left towards slower throttle speeds, tightened the nut and RPMs went back to normal. However, the manual said i should have moved the governor arm all the way right to wide open throttle, turn the governor shaft clockwise, and set it there. I tried that and it made the RPMs go out of control again. Is there something wrong with the way I fixed it by setting the gov arm towards throttle side to find a good RPM?
Damn, dude; buy a tripod! I’m getting seasick trying to watch this!
love the honda engine
CAMERA JITTERZ I FEEL LIKE THROWING UP ALL OVER THAT MOTOR!
Thanks for sharing very interesting and informative 👍👍
If there is any thing else you want to know how it works, maybe i could help out. My updated channel is BezED
My toro powerlite is reving out of control for about the first 3-4 minutes and then it slows down to normal. Haven't had a chance to open up the back panel to take a look, but I imagine that something in the governor linkage is freezing up. We've had some pretty cold weather in WI. What do you think? Is the internal weight/rod sticking?
On the plus side, it throws snow like a much larger machine in that first few minutes, lol.
I had to order a new governor oil slinger. When I got my new item, the plastic gear is stiff and requires a bit of force by hand to turn. in the past all governors I have dealt with would spin freely by hand. Do you think I have a defective governor? I really need to get my mower working as my grass is getting high.
Was it defective?
Got an MTD 5 hp Tecumseh snowblower when I get in to heavy snow engine bogs down, and won't blow the snow, is it governor or carburetor problem, put a new carburetor kit in fuel and air/fuel mixture adjustments respond good. Adjusted governor clockwise on shaft as far as it will go, then have tried various position on lever rod, to get full motion on carburetor shaft, springs are in original holes, that I marked, but still doing same thing under load, no power?
Thanks Richard, you are correct, my camera work is tragic
Thanks professor
Is it possible when reassembling Engine I did not get some part of the governor installed correctly?
If you do not put it back correctly, it will surge or internal damage will occur!
Real good
Are there 2 ways a governor can work. Its seems sometimes the spring increases rpms then sometimes the governor can?
no, just one way, the spring and the mechanism, wether its weights or fan type, work together to hold the set revs.
Hi Gust, it could be, hard to say, are revs high enough, did problem exist before work on carb. perhaps a linkage or spring is not in correct positiob or is damaged. do you know if its a weight or fan governor.
So you have to have the correct spring in order to get proper function? Man i tossed mine years ago and i had no clue matters. Lol.
Could be used for cruize on a car?
i wouldnt think so, a cruise on a car needs to be disengaged instantly
So what does a governer do, like limit the speed
Ok, what's the deal with that Honda's shaft? Does it telescope out or something?
I have a HONDA 6.5 HP overhead valve engine that refuses to start even thought there is spark and fuel. I haven't checked the compression with a gauge but it has compression. Thumb over the plug hole. I thought the fly wheel key might of stripped because trying to start it sounded like the timing was out and it would backfire back through the carburetor. Key way aok. Tried a new plug and new carb. I guess nothing else left but to whip off the head.
Your description leaves a lot of questions still. Try to remember this you really touched on all three things that are required for an engine to run. Spark, fuel, timing. I think your conclusion of tearing the head off is the best answer to start if you know for certain the carburetor is working properly. If the timing is off on the small engines they will not run. So under the head or into the head is your valves. They must be checked. Other than that take all the gas out of the engine, turn the engine over and spray some starting fluid in it, if it runs like a champion your problem is the carburetor. If it still doesn’t run your problem could be timing or spark. Good luck! 👍 Oh and check in compression with your thumb is not a good indicator.
Got it thanks👍
how to know idle rpm of my Briggs and Stratton 19 series also how to change it
HondaGCV160 govnor arm does not move . what can I do?
That’s good quality for a phone
Sawyer the offroad monster no, no it’s really not
Great education you don't find elsewhere. But wow! get a camera stand, i'm dizzy.
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No worries,
moving too much
Goodonyamate!
Thank you for the excellent exploded view of the engine, and the explanation. Unfortunately I had to vomit half way through because of motion sickness. I can't even understand how your camera can shake so much when you seem to be stationary. I encourage you to continue your videos but please use a tripod or a decent camera with image stabilization. The average iPhone has pretty darn good stabilization. With your manipulations, I'd definitely go with multiple cuts and a tripod.
Gust, governor linkage may have come loose and may need to be resett.
Who makes a hondr engine?
my first thought is dont install it, something is not right, it will most likely cause damage,
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Boss good day help me please no rpm the possible cause is governor boss please help I'm here in the Philippines
Thank you for making this video....but it would be so much better if you can stop moving the camera so much. Pictures that move so much make me feel sick :-( (motion sickness)
Your camera work just gave me a migraine
This was very helpful, thank you! Buy a tripod. :-)
ello gov'nor
men, I got a headache watching this video.
so, really on a go kart, why would they totally remove it ? I can't see how it would really add much extra power,, ... If I'm correct and they would want more take off power coming out of a corner, why not just add a stronger spring ???? if they would want more top end I would think they would get ahead by changing the rear sprocket .. correct ?? "" me and kids have been getting into back yard race karts, just trying to understand it all :)""
quad2004 im not sure if i fully understand your questions, the governor is usually set not to go higher than a certain rpm, taking it off allows you to take the engine to a higher rpm. wheel size and sprocket size will affect acceleration and top speed
Hi I understand your question. The answer is this. Removal of the governor does not make your engine more powerful. For take off at full throttle Your engine will accelerate exactly the same. The butterfly in the carb is fully open. You were going from idle to full throttle. The governor does not stop this. Your engine governor is set to maximum rpm setting, that Is where the governor will top of your maximum rpm achieved. The removal of the governor will let the engine RPMs rev higher only after the same amount of RPMs are achieved with a similar engine with the governor. You do not have to take your engine apart to remove the governor arm. You would have to directly attached your throttle to butterfly on the carburetor directly. So without the governor attached to the throttle your engine can rev higher. But there is a maximum before the engine will self-destruct or stop creating more power. The power produced by RPMs put on a chart is not a straight line. It peaks out near the highest RPM range and then drops off. That is another topic completely. So for TopSpeed without the governor your engine can rev higher and you will go faster but you will not take off faster. Changing sprockets on mini bikes or go karts can make you have a faster top speed but you will lose acceleration power, you will accelerate slower to that higher top speed. Switching your sprockets the other direction you can takeoff much faster and have a lower top speed but can accelerate much faster. That balance of acceleration to top speed is what building race cars race motorcycles mini bikes go carts lawnmowers dragster’s jet planes, is all about it is a power to weight ratio looking for the supreme balance and delivery to acceleration and TopSpeed. The whole hobby the whole gearhead person the racer the mechanical engineer that is the whole purpose of their life…lol So honestly if you want your minibike or go cart to accelerate faster and have a faster top speed, it’s all about aerodynamics, my brother.Look closely at the definitions for these things: Torque, horsepower, they are not the same. You have a thing called the peak of diminishing returns. Once you reach the max there is no more, from the Particular engine you were talking about.
Camera making me dizzy sorry
I got dizzy watching.
Gets me dizzy...
cant watch.. camera moves to much..
Do you have any clue how annoying the camera bouncing all over the place is?
Try to move your head up and down with the phone, it might help
@@thebezz864 hey, that really works. Thanks
You said you haven't seen any good videos on how a governor works. Have you looked at your own video? Basiome has it right: The shaky hand on the camera gives one a major case of the dizzies. If you think this is a good video, I'd hate to see what you call a bad or substandard video. Don't mean to be so critical, but sheesh! Good info, but shaky video negates the good stuff.
Good luck getting a life, davecarpetcare
What terrible, terrible camera work for a good explanation...
Good grief!!!!!
Ok you had the best intentions, but the quality is awful. With a tripod you could become a decent youtuber.
Your camera is not stable
i see that YOU know how a governor works,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT your explanation is very poor...........like so many other videos on u tube......there is too much back and forth with your explanation,,,,,,,,,,,it is confusing and not clear at all........if i wanted to learn how the governor works and this was the first video i saw i would not be confident that i have a good understanding of the governor......sometimes you could hardly make out what you were saying...... the camera work was lacking,,,,,,,,...i only watched half the video, got too frustrated to watch anymore..........maybe the last half got better ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if so ,i apologize..........P.S. i wanted to give you a fair chance so i watched the last half,,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry to say,,,,,,,,,,,ALMOST WORSE THAN THE FIRST HALF..........your last words were,,,,,,,,,,THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,THAT'S THE PROBLEM,,,,,,,,,,,,THE WAY YOU EXPLAIN IT..........maybe to someone who already knows about a governor you could help them along and point out some things,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but to a beginner,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,leave it to somebody else.............DON'T MEAN TO SOUND BRUTAL BUT................
No worries YArd limit, you sound like you have too much spare time on your hands, and dont know what the fuck you are talking about. By the way, Tarentino is on the phone, wondering if you can help direct his next epic.
Great explanation, terrible video.
Your lack of camera ability is only exceeded by your pedagogical failings. You may have a complete understanding of the subject, but you fail comprehensively to confer that knowledge to the viewer. After watching this, I am older but no wiser