The Xbox Situation Is Getting WORSE...
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- The fallout from the closure of four different Bethesda studios certainly hasn't been clean. Not only do we have reports on what else they were up to, but also more trouble on the horizon for Xbox with upcoming exclusives. When it rains, it pours!
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My main problem with XBOX is, Why tf am I seeing commercials and ads for new controller, SpongeBob consoles, and XSX SKINS. BUT WHY AM I NOT SEEING ANY COVERAGE OF YOUR FIRST PARTY GAME THAT IS COMING OUT IN 13 DAYS?!?!
What game is that?
Money
@@L_____E_______IT Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2
Hellblade 2
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damn matty going back 2 back on xbox like kendrick
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Lmfao
PlayStation like: “They not like us, they not like us, they not like us”
I wish some of the younger gamers could have seen and experienced how special the 360 era was
I wish they could experience the preinternet era where there were no updates and you could just buy a full game and play it instantly, no patches, installs, dlc etc.
What do you mean? you can still play those games. Many of them even now on gamepass.
I'm more of a PS guy. I play PC. But I'm not brainwashed. PS and XBOX both down bad in their own ways. The industry is trash rn. GTA 6 is gonna be the last AAA game I buy. After that I'm selling my Ps5 and investing in better PC components and pirate from then on lmfao 😂
funny how xbox fans only look back to that one era, the 360 era. while playstation fans have plenty of eras to look back to, from ps1, ps2, even ps3 i might dare to say, and now ps4
@@emikomina some of my best xbox memories were on the original xbox. I actually got excited seeing Dethrow in the intro to this video. I used to love that game, its a frisbee game but you could also win by beating the hell out of the other team and knocking them out.
I remember back when we thought “Redfall” was going to be the sick title for TES VI, turns out, it was just sick
If we would have gotten that "TES6: Redfall" instead of SF and everything that happended since... that would 've been such a better timeline.
Vampires will getcha like that.
Dude I completely forgot about that 😂
I still think if the plan is to have both High Rock and Hammerfell in TES VI than Redfall would have been the perfect name for it.
lol
These corps are just so focused on short term profits. They don’t care about sustainability, just rounding the numbers out at the end of the year. Record breaking profits = layoffs, bad year = layoffs, okay year = layoffs. How people are supposed to look at that and feel secure in their place of work is beyond me. Too much greed not enough foresight IMHO.
A corporation has to look at both short-term and long-term losses. That's why they come up with 5-year and 10-year plans.
@@kavonstuart9803 True, but (at least in Microsoft’s case) this is just them going further towards relying more and more on contract work to make their games. Which is going to hurt them in long run due to how talent driven game dev is.
@@kavonstuart9803I was about to say Microsoft hasn't had a plan since the Kinect failed.
@@Evamaster456 Talking about contract workers would be a long subject to post. I'm a union worker lol, all we talk about is contracts and work. Long story short it's going to be industry wide not just with Microsoft. Microsoft's always just the first one to make moves and people call them out for it.
Because what other choice is there? What people as well as yourself don’t get: Corps own everything, produce everything & have every angle on lock down.
When it comes to the numbers, I don’t think it’s just Xbox (not defending them). These corporations are obsessed with growth and the entire model isn’t sustainable.
I have a PS4 and Xbox one you are right lol don't have much motivation or drive to buy the newest consoles like the old days. I remember when it felt like you were missing out when you didn't get the newest console. Now it's like "missing out on what?"
Gaming (and art in general) should not be on the stock market. Executives are the death of gaming, and they must be removed
And making games that lose money is the right answer?
Niche games don't make money. Microsoft is not a charity organization. Tango games lost half of their 70 devs, with the keavibgvof their founder, who justbopenva new studio. Arkane Austin lost 80% of their developers before Microsoft bought them. 😎😌
@@heavyartillery-qm5huthey’ll fail 10 straight projects if it leads to 1 Fortnite, still a bad idea because 1 Fortnite is still unlikely but that’s the goal for most of these studios
Xbox is gonna be all smiles and laughs when they do their showcase in a bit over a month where they pretend like they respect the creatives that work for them and the audience that plays their games. They aren't going to take any of this criticism to heart.
Imagine being one of the people who was laid off or who is worried about their job now when these marketing events happen.
Ah … no they aren’t
The reason why big companies play the emotional card is because most people buy that shit up...... look at the reaction in any channel talking about this topic.... filled with people who think Sony, Nintendo, or Xbox give a shit about you... when the money flat lines the games slow down or stop...
@@motchness every year the showcase starts with some exec smiling and proclaiming something that isn't going to happen ("for example all of the games you see today will release in the next 12 months") and ends with Phil or whoever going on to someone's show to take softball questions and provide a friendly face. If they know what's good for them optically they better not do that this year.
@@justinl4281 Xbox is the only company that does it to this degree. They've made the execs and the idea of fandom part of the brand. Can the average person name the head of Sony or Nintendo Japan? No. But Twitter is full of people who pall around with Xbox execs on a first name basis.
Right like the big "MICROSOFT" was intersted in your little studio all hight 5's they sell so they can have more freedom to put out better games just to not put out anyhthing and get shut down and loose you job , which would have been just fine if they had not have souled out to MICROSOFT dundun dunnnn
So Matty agrees with Ulysses "who are you who do not know your history?"
Bear and bull bear and bull
New Vegas Moment
Man the 360 titles really hit. Halo 3, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, Rainbow Six Vegas, Battlefield 3, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Deadspace, Gears Of War, Deadspace 2, COD MW, Fallout New Vegas, Bioshock 1 through infinite, Rock Band, Guitar Hero, Red Dead Redemption, The Orange Box, Oblivion, GTA 5, Dishonored, Borderlands 2, Battlefield Bad Company, Left 4 Dead, AC Black Flag, Mass Effect, Dark Souls... We really were eating good, and we didn't even know how good it was.
I have played most of those games and those games are still some of the best
How has 343 industries not gotten the boot??
The main reason is because they are the Halo studio. There are no other places to move that IP at the moment.
@@rafterman5072I highly wish that werent so, god how unfair.
@@EdwardGutierrez90such is life
They’re “Special” 🤡
@@rafterman5072 Yh the only thing Xbox can really do is to restructure 343 and actually hire workers instead of contracting them every 6 months.
How can you have a studio designed for one game and not have permanent core members?
We all knew that sooner or later the nice guy mask that Xbox was wearing would come off. It was only a matter of time before the bean counters with no passion for the industry would take the reigns.
Three years ago I was downvoted to oblivion saying MS will always be MS.
We were fooled
Feels like XBox put out 1 Japanese game every once in awhile, says "meh", and waits a few more years before trying again.
The Gamepass model never made sense to me. I can understand Microsoft wanting to give gamers a reason to play third party games on Xbox instead of Playstation. Gotta be competitive. But across the board it ruins the sale of games because it's too good a value to the customer. Why ever buy games if you have the subcription? So it deprives Playstation of sales and trains Xbox customers to never open their wallet. How is that not a recipe for disaster? Game development is just too damned expensive for them to be giving away the farm.
Agreed. It would make sense if it was for older games and the occasional new one, but putting virtually everything on game pass was such a bad move
I see 3rd party games leaving because gamepass in the future
Agreed, it's clearly stagnant eventually, exact same as streaming for TV and movies. Outside of netflix and some recent success with amazon a lot of them domt acc make profit. Xbox just can't sustain the profits they make, especially when they do things like shutting down studios, shadow drops and putting first party games on there day 1 where they get played for a bit and then not picked up or some time
If games didnt costs an arm and a leg most players would have no problem buying games instead of subscripting to gamepass
Im sorry but if you think if gamepass didnt exist the problem would be solved, I have a sad news for you...
Most players would go to the pirates route...
Specially in countries that doesnt get paid in dollar like so many in the world
But Xbox customers are opening their wallets, either once a month or once a year. And what MS is banking on is you not only get a subscription of some kind, but that you also spend money on those games in app purchases and buy other games still which aren’t on the pass. AND they’re hoping to capture more of their pinch-pursed audience who spend money on games every once in a blue moon to subscribe and get a constant cash flow from them, which surely will end up being more profit in the long run per each of those kinds of customers rather than have them just buy their one or two games a year, and probably on sale at that or through a vendor
Let's not forget the perfect timing to announce a new controller.
People who make this corelation are smooth brains
Not to mention the "Feel the burn" slogan they announced it with until people called them out.
Xbox said during the acquisitions that they’d have a hands off approach. Well, they handed them off into the trash.
Big facts
But Bethesda is trash. Nothing lost here. MS should just lay everybody off including Todd Howard and hand over the Fallout series to Obsidian and the TES series to Blizzard.
No company can survive frequent strategy shifts. Or a management that can't see over the horizon.
Well Sony is still around as well, they're just as bad...
We are living in uncharted territory, bc I don't think the world has ever seen so many mega corporations so hell bent on self destruction through social engineering and unpopular propaganda, go completely against their customer bases. It can only last so long, until the well runs dry after running off their paying customers to appease the people on Twatter who DO NOT BUY their products, or watch their propaganda. I guess DEIsney is not a cautionary tale for other companies, but rather, DEIsney is the lemming that they are going to follow over the ledge...
I loved the PS4 and its library but I friggen miss the PS360 era of gaming. Both systems were great and had ups and downs but you could make a strong case for owning either console. I hate being a doomer but it feels like we’ll never get that type of era again.
Not to mention the biggest jump in power and graphics. I remember the first time I saw the demo for Oblivion and how amazing that looked compared to anything else back then.
Idk men i love stellar and helldivers 2 and ronin this year I enjoy my ps5 😅
The 360 era will be the last great era for xbox.
@@fabolousjada5070 No doubt there's still great games that come out but we're talking about the industry as a whole.
ah before the ceaseless desire to milk us dry for profit ruined our fun little pastime.
I’m seriously worried for the future of Double Fine
They are next probably
I agree with Phill, Matt booty and Sarah Bond getting fired. They’ve not shown any results at all but have the audacity to shut down studios with talented people while they keep getting a jail free card and enjoy their time at the top. This needs to stop and whatever “vision” these three stooges have for Xbox needs to buried deep down
They are most likely writing script for what they have to say in a interview or podcast.
I'm not going to lie. I feel horrible for Tango Gameworks, I feel vindicated from Xbox going mask off for the lack of better words. So many people praise Phil so much and ignored all his faults because he always said the right thing to gamers. The guy has always been a snake and full of shit. He has lied time and time again, but people defended him because of gamepass. At least people are seeing it now. Also will keep saying it. Gamepass isn't going to work in the long run, at least not without cutting teams more, adding more mtx, and even raising sub prices. But even then, this will result in lower subs, since many people will find it too expensive. I still think more of this shit is going to happen. Just think a little people. They spent $69 BILLION on just one acquisiton, and they made many others. Do you guys really think MS is going to wait until they make their money back after a long period of time? When have we seen these type of huge publicly traded companies do this? They think short term, quarterly. They see numbers down for a little while and they panic. That's how these businesses have been working. I've said Gamepass is going to hurt the gaming industry like sub services hurt the movie/show industry. I called this when people were hyping it up, but we are seeing the bad effects more and more. Gamepass is good for the consumer in short term sure, but it's horrible for the industry as we are seeing, and in the long term, awful for the consumer in turn. I called this and people shat on me, calling me a "Sony Pony" or "Xbox hater", even though I looked at it completely logically. So yeah, I feel vindicated. It felt so obvious, but people were blind to it.
I mean just think about it. Selling full price games to putting them on a sub service. Not every subscriber will play every game, due to lack of time, too big a catalog, or no interest due to smaller less quality games to fit in the subscription service model. This would mean that many games will not translate to enough monetary gain for it's cost of development. Just think about how much of the money made on subs have to be split to other publishers, studios, marketing, the service itself, game development cost and time to develop gamepass games, cloud gaming push, ect. That is already a HUGE amount of money, and then we have the HUGE acquisitions they made on top of all that. I just never saw how all this was going to work out. There is no way this is going to be sustainable in long term, especially when considering subscription numbers in these services usually stagnate. And also the amount of people who sub for a month and then unsub. I felt crazy how many people didn't see this coming, but I'm starting to feel vindicated. It's only going to get worse. I really think they rose to close to the sun with gamepass. It was a success and as a result, they just kept throwing a ton of money at it, I feel, without even thinking about the realistic outcome. I think people saw that they were making a ton of money because they have a lot of subscribers, but they fail to put into perspective how much money they throw and are still throwing back into the service.
Phil Spencer cancels and close studios more than release good games for Xbox
I’m beginning to wonder if he’s looking for way for the brand to exit the console business , yet still manages to preserve the brand as a publisher of whatever the suits in charge want to do with it.
what he close before yesterday?
Well if you have more studios than good games sounds like a smart choice 😂😂
@@oxyman10That’s the point of gamepass, a service to remove the barrier to entry of the console market. It looks like they’re hoping to penetrate the mobile market with it too, coz even if people like it or not, mobile gaming is the largest market right now.
If you think phill is the one making the decisions, then you're clearly not paying attention
So glad groups like Toys For Bob that were acquired recently by MS jumped ship and went inde while they could. I think they knew where things were heading and took the safe route.
The Redfall situation is one of the many reasons why I dont buy always online service games as a matter of principle.
Yesterday you were on one. It was great. Thanks for being authentic.
I thought you said autistic when I first read 😂
I feel like another thing is how Xbox shows so many games off in their summer conferences and we never see them. Where do these games go? Are they announcing these game while they're still in a concept phase? Makes no sense.
I love how “nobody saw it coming”
Not sure how everyone missed what subscription based services like Netflix had already accomplished in completely decimating video games’ closely related cousin, the film industry…
The writing was on the wall a long time ago friends. I knew gamepass would be a net negative in the end. Everyone was so excited when Netflix first dropped too lmao
very good point with the sports team analogy. I'm a big hockey fan and my team sucked for years and theyve gone through like 5 coaches and a bunch of goalies and theyve just now figured it out the past 2-3 seasons. Hold leadership accountable.
what zaric zhakaron said about the skyrim marketplace is really starting to make alot more sense now
What did he say?
I thinks thats the the deep responsible of all this weird moves MS is doing, it was the Activision deal. The time of XBox is over, the time of Activision begins on MS. The COD mindset virus has installed on MS heads, huge margins, only big IPs, multiplatform, online service, etc. The purchase was bigger than the buyer. Now Nadella wants to CODified everything on XB.
Essentially you can blame the Activision deal for this..
Imagine a 2 player coop game where you play as two brothers named Sam and Dean Winchester, where they travel the states slaying monsters
Imagine Xbox was gone and we was stuck with greedy Sony charging us 40 dollars for micro transactions free to play games like helldrivers and charging us 70 dollars for single player games. That’s not good
70 dollars games keep their studios open, gamepass for 15 dollars closes studios.
70 dollar games keeps studios open, 15 dollar gamepass closes studios.
It is clear Maty has never had a corporate job. I have been through it a couple of times. The corporation comes in and says nothing will change and after a certain amount of time everything changes and most people are shown the door.
I don’t get what people honestly expect xbox isn’t some saint it’s a Business that still have to answer to Microsoft and they what to see a return on investment
My guess they saw how successful the fallout show was and now they want the next fallout game much sooner I doubt phill had much say in this decision
If the show was mid or if xbox had a major hit from the studio they acquire I don’t think this would happen
if they wanted instant returns on business that's development cycles that take 4-6 to make, they should just exit the industry. You aren't going to grow anything when you spend years having a lack of content. You can't just buy companies to make the content. Have them for less than a single dev cycle, then close half their studios. Wonder why you're not seeing any profit. They have executives with literally 0 self awareness running this company. What was the point in their investment if they thought they would get instant profit.
competence?
Whats happening to Gamepass is exactly what happened with tv subscription services. It started of as something good with no downsides, then eventually it started eating itself alive because of greedy corporations. The only difference is that gamepass downside came up pretty quickly and unexpectedly and gamepass had no competitors
Thank you for FINALLY acknowledging what me and MANY others have been complaining and fearing with Game Pass. It’s a horrible business model.
It’s wild to me Xbox didn’t have the foresight to see that a service designed for people to not pay for games hurts game sales.
If there is one thing I noticed over the past few years of passively watching some of Mr Matty's content. He almost never swears. NEVER. So the fact he dropped at least 4 F bombs in the last video was very very noticeable.
They closed the studio that made Prey. It's a disgrace and when are people going to stop apologising for Phil Spencer? He scammed everyone with his whole 'honest gamer Phil' routine. He's as hopeless and corporate as Don Mattrick ever was.
Snake oil salesman Phil
@@TheSymbiot3Venom 👏
Art is subjective. Money is objective.
@@marcusmalone Your comment is a disgrace dude. Look at what Arkane made after Prey: the Prey DLC (it was poorly made), Deathloop (poorly made), Redfall (poorly made)
Ofcourse they would shut the studio down. Whatever talent inspired and created the likes of Dishonored 1&2 and Prey 2017.. has long since left the company.
Prey 2017 was released 7 years ago and everything after that was Forspoken level of brainrot trash.
They need to fire Phil and replace him with someone who actually cares about games
17 years I've had an Xbox Live account. 10 of those years I enjoyed it immensely. The other 7 being skeptical but optimistic. I get it, PC/Sony fans will roast me. But I made such great memories. So many times where everyone I knew was playing Xbox. I cancelled my subscription and giving my Series X to someone else. I'm done with them. They will not have another Halo 3 where it means something to be exclusive. They don't deserve it
Im canceling mine the end of this month , I gave up also
No point owning an xbox anymore. Im going to sell mine after playing hellblade.
Ok
Whelp. Guess it's time to start investing into a PC
why? xbox is closing?
I did back in February, sold my series X for a steam deck.
@@evp159no but with them going more third party they will likely cease making consoles. If that happens (and it likely will in a generation or two since they are hardly selling) all the digital stuff I’ve bought the last 15 years will be obsolete. It also having no exclusives make it not really worth having, so I sold my series x and got a steam deck
Should have from the start lol
Stay where you're comfortable. Got a PC myself recently and a part of me is getting tired trying to get a lot of games to run properly
Xbox just made the first "marketing post" for Hellblade 2.
They posted :
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2
May 21st.
Literally this LOL
Speaks to their confidence in putting full-throated support behind it lol
@@shecklesmack9563pause lol
They don't care about it. They'll port it to ps5 months after release then shut the studio down or turn them into a support studio for a bigger ip
Got so much crap during the ABK deal for saying that this would be the outcome. Fanboys told me that Xbox would never do this and that they had more than enough money to keep their studios going for many years. Well, I hope all the Xbox fanboys are happy now...
No one is happy, but you're still right.
Gamers don't think like businessmen they're always going to shed dead weight. As a business you have to, I see nothing wrong with what Microsoft is doing.
They real silent rn lol
@@kavonstuart9803But the problem with that argument is the fact they've shut down Tango who were absolutely not dead weight they were one of their more successful studios of recent years.
Arkane Austin being shut down everyone could see from a mile away but if even their studios who are putting out good products can't survive then the optics is there's a studio management issue.
@@battlep0t Business brain... Todd Howard said last month there were plans to get more games out or speed up production. Tango gameworks was probably a location with a high cost, so shut that location/studio and move those people onto other projects just like they did with Roundhouse. Roundhouse is now falling into the Elder Scrolls Online team. As a business, you're supposed to make these types of moves.
I remember all this used to happen in the background back in the day and we just kept gaming but know look what we have become so sad to see 😭
I was a diehard Xbox fan from 2007-2015. Bought an Xbox one, DAY ONE. But this generation I decided to buy my first PlayStation and am so glad I did. Xbox is dying a slow, sad, public death.
This was the plan from day 1. They had a 5% chance to keep some of the studios.
Phil Spencer has been ruining Xbox for years, but because he wears a hoodie, we think he’s not like other executives. Fire him
biggest issue as i see it. Bad management that has only one short sighted goal -> Shareholder satisfaction.
They dont care about customers, hard working employees or thair own future.. ist only short sighted view
LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TIME?!?!?!? THEY HAVE HAD A YEAR.
The update was planned for May. It's currently May, so it would have been less than a month from when they were shut down. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that
@@Akeyins It is unreasonable. Because had it been possible to send it out in May it would have already been announced, this was a long-time coming.
I agree Matty - No more excuses - The management needs to take accountability for sure... Its not the poor devs fault as they are just doing what they told ffs...
Thanks Don mattrick you were actually 1000x better than spencer
Shinji Mikami left Tango a month after Hi-Fi Rush released. He started a new studio. How many people followed him? Who replaced him as studio leader? Tango made mostly horror games while Mikami as there. Would they be able to continue making horror after he left? Did they have the manpower?
Mikami was talking about leaving since 2020, and was gradually becoming less involved with the studio. They had a plan and people to replace him. He also was sad about the closure.
The Evil Within 2 was directed by a relatively junior director compared to shinji and they did great for a first attempt. Shinji did say that he was just training the people in that studio and was gonna leave when he thinks they're ready.
Whether they had or hadn't talent, fact is, they release the only critically acclaimed xbox title this year and got axed
@@Pq-fn4me Yup, the same guy who later made Hi Fi
Funnily enough Shinji Mikami said that he wasn't interested in making more survival horror games. Hell Bethesda basically forced him to make The Evil Within 1. He wants his new studio to be a place to teach new talent on smaller games which is what Tango and Clover before it was focused on before Bethesda and Capcom changed directions on him.
Phil Spender and Matt Butt should go
Satya Nadella too
@@ZombieGangster yeah Nutella too
Why are people acting surprised, Microsoft has always been like that, they did it so many times before, now all the other studios that are left have a warning to do something great or get the boot,
Gaming has NEVER been a cheap hobby. Account for inflation and compare what games cost during the n64 era to what they cost now.
Yes. I remember N64 games being around £50 at the time.
How is Xbox going to come back from this. Tbh Im losing hype for the showcase now. They're just going to show another game early im development that we won't see for another 2+ years. My only thought is they blow us away with another Fable trailer.
The only thing that can save them is a new fallout
@@exiledhebrew1994 no way they announce New Vegas 2 already. But I agree that could redeem them.
Dude... Fable looks hella bad and extremely WOKE 😂😂😂 who is it going to surprise at this point?
@@XxT0kY0DrfTstYlExX personally doesn't look bad to me. Felt like they nailed the feeling of Fable in the trailer, everything is just over the top and weird just how the old ones were with their goofy art style. I could care less about how the main character looks if I like the game.
@@XxT0kY0DrfTstYlExX doesn't look bad to me personally. Felt like it nailed the Fable vibe with it being kind of goofy and all over the place. The originals were definitely goofy and over the top. I could care less how the main character looks if the game is good.
What is the song in the background of this video?
It’s Deference for Darkness from Halo 3 ODST
Just because studios closed doesn’t mean people got fired. Most where moved to other studios
Finally people are speaking on how bad Phil Spencer has been for XBox.
But until people realize that games releasing day 1 on Gamepass is terrible value for the industry and customer, it will only get worse for XBox.
A flat-rate service that has plateaued in customer growth cannot sustain all of these developers. And it cannibalizes sales which means no profits to reinvest into the company.
That only made the situation for Tango worse when Hi-Fi Rush was shadow dropped.
Hot take: The only egregious part of this is Tango. Roundhouse just had their support role formalized, Arkane Austin was a shell of its former self due to events that predate the Xbox acquisition (on top of Redfall's release), and I can't bring myself to cry over the fate of an MTX-fueled mobile game like Mighty Doom. In the case of Redfall specifically, we aren't privy to how much money they were having to sink into actually fixing it or implementing an offline mode. I don't blame them for dropping it in the slightest, it was a relic of the pre-Xbox era of Bethesda/Arkane that shit the bed in every conceivable way. I wouldn't want to be left holding the bag there, either.
Also, have you played COD in the past decade? There were definitely people that needed to go at Activision and Infinity Ward lol. For all we know they were the guys stealing breastmilk from the female employees.
@@ColinAYB Very much agree. Especially on Arkane Austin. They havent released anything good in 7 years, and everything post Prey 2017 was dumpster trash.
Have to agree. The only one that feels like a gut punch is Tango. That's the most confusing. Don't know if Arkane, Austin was even salvageable. And Roundhouse was just rolled in to make MMOs. Don't care about mobile whatsoever. You have a point about COD as well, but that could've been a problem higher up the food chain that was already taken care of. Perhaps, people are overreacting a bit as per usual.
For a long time I thought you had nostalgia goggles but it's good to see you calling it out finally. Thanks for the content you do and stay safe.
It's because those studios are Phil's ideas, and he doesn't want to look bad. I have been saying for years now that he needs to take responsibility and actually show something for it. No more safe podcast interviews and no more tone def presentations. it's to put up or shut up.
Speaking for myself…. I rarely have time to actually play games. Maybe once each week. And when I have that time. I use those 2-3 hours to play a singular game. I do that until I beat the game and then I buy another and repeat. Getting game pass would be a total waste of money for me. I feel like a lot of people feel that way.
I'll never spend a cent on things like Game Pass. Paying money for a system where the owner of said system can pull or add games at will just doesn't sit right with me. It's like streaming services "editing" movies. We're losing all control of our media. Give me BluRays and offline games every day of the week.
The illusion is youre getting all these games for free as long as you pay monthly, when you probably dont play half of them, and as the years go by youll have payed way more than just buying off steam or owning your own physical copy
@@fosterc1308 Yep. And it's at someone else's discretion to just pull any of the games for no reason.
@@IDPhotoMan yeah, its just like amazon or paramount or any of these entertainment slimeballs do
I believe this is why the quality of our entertainment has dropped so significantly, they dont even have to make money developing good games or movies anymore, people subscribe to their channels and pay them the money they need anyway
I canceled my Xbox live for the first time since I first subscribed to it back in 2006. What an absolute circus it and the games industry has become. I’ve decided to take up watercolor painting in its place.
Xbox really needed Starfield to knock it out of the park but in reality, it got maybe a double
Microsoft and the CEO of all Microsoft (of which Xbox is part of) the boss of Phil Spencer...Satya Nadella...is the MAIN PROBLEM!!! If he fired Phil, Sarah, and Matt NOTHING would really change because Satya would hire a new group of yes-people! Satya has never really liked Xbox division! BUT Satya rakes in lots of money for Microsoft at large and the Board will not remove Satya so he's free to destroy Xbox & Phil can't do a DANG thing as he will be fired if he stands against Satya (that's what Ybarra was hinting at...he knows the real villain is Satya)!!!
It almost shocks me that Bungie was able to operate at such a high level under the Xbox banner for so long. Hasn't really worked out for anyone else.
Seems 10 years of bad policies have lead to this moment and the roulette has landed. The entire industry is in a spiral. You get what you get. I'll take "fake" outrage by someone who knows that they are talking about than Matty's misguided outrage on a topic he has been sticking his head in the sand.
This is what happens when you invest too much money into a single sector without much competition, you eventually have to compete and this is what happens.
Exactly!!! this is actually good for the industry. It needs to tank because games have sucked for like 10 years now. Sometimes you gotta get smaller to get bigger.
Yeah because they were in a much better place 10 years ago when Don mattrick was in charge.
TV TV TV, sports, TV, if you don't want a console that always online we have the perfect product for you, it's called the Xbox 360.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu And how is that any different from today? have you looked at the Storefront on your Xbox console lately? you boot up and its ads on the front screen, browse the shop and its tv, movies, music, apps, oh and then games. and in the games section, they shovel F2P garbage and Ultimate Editions and skins down your throat. Give me a break, son.
I read the the leadership at tango games jumped ship with most of its staff and arkane studios original staff dipped. Should xbox kept a studio if all its original members left?
Not true. With tango, shinji mikami was open about how he wanted to leave early on in order to foster greater opportunities for younger devs. In fact the only game he directed of tangos 4 releases was the evil within 1.
@@Stevewebstermusic well I don't know the full extent but what I seen and found was that. I know studio closure is heartbreaking but there has to be a reason to this that most want to ignore.
@@joshuabonorino9561 that reason is cowardice on the part of Microsoft
it's a made up rumor created on reddit(the Tango part), Arkane Austin is true though.
It's understandable from a Microsoft perspective. I could see this being part of an initial phase of a larger restructure which would precede an overhaul of the leadership at Bethesda.
I can't fathom how Microsoft don't realise that making games through those studios would prevent closure. Make Prey 2, announce New Vegas remake or sequel, etc. New Vegas news alone would raise the stock price for all Bethesda related studios. It's crazy that us gamers, fans, knows what would drive the internet and their hype.
It appears that C-level executives across various corporations have adopted a similar strategy: inflating share prices through cost-cutting measures, such as studio closures, only to depart with substantial bonuses before the long-term repercussions affect investors. This pattern extends beyond the realm of video games. It is a deeper sickness in our economy and society. The virtues of integrity and honour have been forsaken in pursuit of wealth. “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”
Accurate
I didn't agree with the direction Microsoft went with after the 360 or the ramifications of having a service like gamepass. It's all a shame and foreseeable.
At this rate Xbox as a brand is no more by the end of 2024
What is there end goal here? They stop their retail presence, they port their games to PlayStation, they close down studios. This looks more and more like they want to leave the hardware business and become the something like rockstar, 2-3 mega IPs that print infinite money but they don’t want to compete on the AA space
Xbox leadership doesn’t know what its doing.
Critically acclaimed doesn’t equal revenue generation. A studio needs revenue to stay open. It sounds like Tango was short staffed and needed more people, more budget, more revenue to stay open. There is a high demand for Fallout 5. I would like to see all the data for each of these studios so a proper analysis can be conducted.
There was a statement last year by some former playstation studio director, that playstation´s measure of success is metacritic score. And that even bonuses are tied to it. I am not saying that every company should do it. But they know that some game does not need to sell great to be considered successful. Returnal did not sell milions but sony still decided to buy that studio afterwards
This looks like gamepass is killing studios to me.
Yup it all comes down to continued growth and gamepass aint it in this economy.
Its a catch 22. If they drop or change Gamepass now they'll lose what small audience they've retained. If they don't then the closures will keep happening until only the larger monetization driven games are left.
@@kordova2182well it would have worked had Xbox ACTUALLY released good games. If Sony had gamepass with their big games day one they’d be rolling in money
@@The_Death_Owldefinitely a failure of planning and oversight on Microsoft/Xbox execs. Which is insane that no one in charge gets held accountable.
I already said several years ago that gamepass is bad and hurting the industry, everybody in the comments just laughed at it. Look where we are now.
Perfect Dark? Wasn’t that announced like 8 years ago?
Dawg if you’re excited about fable you’re gonna let yourself down man
Gotta remember xbox is Microsoft too and saying xbox is failing very short sighted. And they have thousands of studios and not making enough games to cover the costs 🤷♂️ sad but true need to clean house and sort it out. And laying off call of duty staff about time its been a reskin for years. No decent story no new or different gameplay lol
Let Todd Howard make a Overwatch, CoD, WoW, Starcraft, Skyrim, etc., movie and watch the money roll in. Halo show is an absolute embarrassment, that WAS your frigging premiere flagship IP!
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A lot of us were called fanboys when we were talking about this and its effect on the health of the industry but alas here we are sucks hi fi rush was one of my favorite Xbox releases of late
I feel like they done fucked up for the last time. I personally wont be bother with the platform after getting a PC. Sure Ill buy some of their games on sale but wont be paying for online or gamepass. All that money will go to steam or whatever collectors editions I pick up for ps5.
Stuff like smt5, metaphor and Visions of mana, are going to be for ps5 now. If xbox cant bother to get their shit together, then Im not interested in supporting the platform that keeps failing.
Who knew there's no real money for studios in subscription services.
Well there is if you make good games lol. The future is subscription services but the content HAS to be there
Studios with there last good games 10 years ago .....Besides Hig fi rush(which will just move to another studio with the devs) all those games are old as crap or just crap and not making money!
@@kennypowers1945The subscription model only suits people who are gaming a lot, but there are many casual gamers who only play games now and then. The subscription model doesn't suit those customers at all. They would rather just buy the games they want to play. So I think it's important to offer both options.
Yup, that's why Netflix and other streaming services are so lame. Get real
Who woulda thought making games free for 14$ a month would hurt game sales
It's not free if you're paying a monthly subscription.
@@HumongousBeastBoi u know what I mean
@@whosyadeddy Well, explain why all those streaming services are making tons of money?
There's still time to delete this homie.
@@kyleledeadboi6810 nah imma leave it right where it is
Redfall released a year ago. It still not having an offline mode a year later shows just how poor management is at Xbox.
Have you heard the rumored reason they chose Tango and Arkane Austin to close? MS gave Zenimax an ultimatum
The studios weren't in full production for a game yet, and would need to staff up in the coming months, so it was simpler.
That's insane, it's a choice a company that's dying makes, not a 3T dollar company, but an Embracer like company that gets hit from all sides at once and is afraid of going bankrupt.
Xbox and MS can take the hit and be fine, restructure Tango and Arkane Austin, to make AA games instead, i'm pretty sure Tango could make a sequel to Hi-Fi Rush in under 3 years with only 50 people on the team.
Xbox has "fought" so hard in the last few years to get into the japanese market and then they just close the only Japanese studio they have, it wasn't even a token studio, this team created by Shinji Mikami made The Evil Within and Hi-Fi Rush, fanstastic games and new IP for the hungry company to own, since it seems that's what they value the most.
Should'nt that make they do a double take before shutting down the whole studio?? Matt Booty needs to be fired and, Aaron Greenberg as well and Phil needs to be sunset.
Gotta put all hands on deck for the 2029 release date of Elder Scrolls VI: Loading Screens Edition
We’re probably also getting Skyrim 20th Anniversary Edition down the line as well.
funny how people think no bethesda game had loading screens b4 starfdield.....wild
@@evp159 .
@@evp159funny how people think 2008 game design is good that’s “wild”.
@@evp159 Funny how nobody said that
It is time to fire Phil, Sarah, and Matt. Period. The problems keep coming despite new studios, new publishing companies, studio closures, and new strategies. Clearly leadership is the problem.
Booty should've been fired over 5 years ago.
He's incompetent.
Is the football analogy valid!? When a football team is deemed a failure, it's considered a management failure, not a team failure. The team isn't shut down; the management is sacked. Why aren't underperforming gaming companies simply sold on to more competent owner/managers!?
Subscriptions are bad for consumers and developers (especially indie devs) in the long run. It's good that this plan dies, and if big companies would have any creative people in their business departments, this wouldn't be such a huge deal.
I'd be worried about Ninja Theory and Obsidian. If HB2 and Avowed doesn't perform, they'll be axed.
Even if it does well, what’s to say they won’t be axed?
What do they measure it by since these games will be on Gamepass so they can't go off sale alone as a metric to measure success. The sales on netflix aren't so hot either. If ppl are paying every month they're not then also going to be buying all xbox games day one for full price.
@@thelastofus2872 that’s the conundrum..gamepass is cannibalizing sales and if you have a sub, why would you actually buy the game. They want gamepass to be the future while somehow selling games too
Hi Fi Rush literally won more Awards than Spider Man at the Game Awards. Who cares what performs? They are all doomed under such suits
Getting Japanstudio Flashbacks
Game pass seems like it was made for people who play games all day. I only play a few different titles a year. I assume most people are the same way. Am I wrong about that?
I think you have to assume it's similar to Netflix. No one is watching it 24/7, but thats because don't live with or relate with someone with that obsession. If game pass suddenly gets a huge title I looked forward to I may become 24/7, but thats short term. Just like an infrequent binge for a show.
You are correct, and the majority don't even finish games.
For me I buy a few new games a year and I go looking at what’s on sale or stuff that’s interesting I see in GameStop used. I have a big backlog and it’ll carry me through to next year
@@chasejackson7248definitely I have so many unfinished games. I have to be fully into a game to finish it
Now in a couple months we'll have the Xbox showcase where Phil comes out in a gamer T shirt and talks about how much he cares about the devs and how much Xbox cares about games
Lol and then a bunch of morons are going to believe him and get hyped for the next broken Bethesda game coming in 2035
curious,.. were employees already leaving those axed studios beforehand (leaving the sinking ship..)?.., so Phil axed them / dissolved them..
Xbox reminds me of the NHL's Toronto Maple Leafs. Both spend a lot of money, are hated by many others, and fail to produce when it counts. And they don't fix their courses to change the results.
super off but good try
@@evp159- likes say otherwise, chump. You came up empty.
@@evp159 What’s inaccurate about that comparison?
That’s a good analogy actually. It seems like Microsoft just threw a bunch of money at the problem without a good plan and got a bunch superstars but no team and are just taking loss after loss. This is what happens when a bunch of uncreative people with way too much money try to lead. This might also be Microsoft lighting a fire under everyone’s ass. Which sometimes works but breeds resentment. Having said that I’m in no place to tell a massive corporation how to run their business. All I can do is get a ps5 or stop playing vids all together since it seems like there’s very few if any games worth my time.
It’s a good comparison, @evp159 is probably a leafs fan 😅
I can’t get away from Xbox 😣 I’ve tried moving away from it and got myself a PC and a PlayStation 5 but I don’t enjoy them as much and I keep coming back which is so freaking weird. I think it’s nostalgia because the Xbox one carried me through my teenage years and I’ve adapted to the controller even though I know they’ve done terribly since the Xbox one.
Just play on PC, with a nice, wired Xbox controller ;). That’s how I’ve always rolled. I hate PlayStation’s controllers and how they can’t really work natively on PC.
Even with Sony games, they still didn’t have the “haptic” feedback last I tried a PS5 controller, but honestly, the higher tier Xbox controllers have better force-feedback anyway.
I'm a 17 year Xbox Live (game pass now) sub and I cancelled it a week ago. Honestly felt so freeing. There's always a PC alternative that's far superior. Or just play some Xbox games on PC. It doesn't matter though. They do not deserve your money. The continuous pattern of downgrading games yet charging more is horrendous. Don't let nostalgia fog the reality of the situation - Xbox can't promise anything and yet ask for more
The new definition of success changed for sure. There was a time in gaming many years ago when a dev could sell 1,000,000 copies of a game and be called a success. Some devs even found success pushing half that. Take CoD and Fallout out that equation. Mario Kart 8/8 Deluxe sold over 65 million copies. Zelda: BoTW sold over 45 million. Even Metroid Prime: Remastered sold over 1 million copies even though Metroid as a series has never been as successful as Mario/Zelda/Pokemon. This is on Switch. A device that isn't pushing high levels of graphics fidelity, it's not pushing UE5, 4k. The misguided belief that games should be like movies with movie-like budgets was always unsustainable. The chickens have come home to roost.
Pretty simple: vote with your wallet