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I am here to report that so far, no, Nozdormu doesn't become void-y. He's fine, Chromie gives him a hug and saves him. I figure you already know this, but I wanted to slap this comment here so it is read by people.
Probably from it not being the normal video layout and instead a machima that's higher quality than most of the big boy's. Probably would be making the money back if Bellular was known for this stuff, best we can do to help them make it worth it is share it to friends and family.
I personally think the views are going down because the game has been going down lorewise and just fucked things over People that were interested in Wow lore and not playing wow on a loop just walk away from videos that even though they are good, they end up being better than whatever blizzard shits on their table
What i find amazing in this Bellular's channel is that It clearly states that there are sponsors. He gives them respected time. Quality time. And when there is a massive series of lore videos - one which is GOD TIER QUALITY - there is non. Just simple entrance thankyou for all supporters and straight to the point of video. Love it!
I think it's entirely possible (and maybe even likely) that the end goal of the Titans was a cosmos devoid of free will and the 'curse of flesh.' For that reason, I like to believe that Murozond is an antihero, and I would love for that story to be explored in Dragonflight and beyond.
I think the ultimate story arc for one of Warcraft's biggest plots having the underpinning idea of "free will" and freedom is just absolutely brilliant from a theming perspective. It acts an emotional throughline for the entire game's existence, especially as a concept of order that we're fighting against and don't want. Some people adventure for glory, for responsibility, for vengeance, as vanguards of a safer world, to gain power, to create a legacy. Invariably, though, the single point of causality that all adventurers have in Warcraft is their free will. The majority make a choice to venture forth from the comforts of their homeland and become the greatest legends the lands could witness. Free will is, in my opinion, the single most important idea that makes an adventurer what they are. They choose where they go, guided by whim and the next great threat. If the loss of free will ends up being the goal of the Titans, I think that would probably be one of the most effective writing choices the narrative teams have ever considered.
I like the idea of him being an antihero, maybe the dude isn't as evil or crazy as we think? If that'd be the case, the story writers should step on the gas on making him seem evil while they can
The flaw with the curse of flesh story is outside of humans dwarves gnomes all the other races naturally evolved from other creatures. Orcs are aliens and even tho the titans did visit draenor there was no titan soul within so they did little to protect the planet from the elements. Thinking of that, the titans left drenor to destroy itself and one way or another it did eventually become uninhabitable
Brilliant video yet again, it should honestly be promoted by blizzard if they had any common sense. Wonderful work. Also special shoutout to that Thrall scene of him in space, lovely editing.
I'm personally still putting bets on the big main threat Nozdormu is worried about is tied to Aman'thul himself. The Titans are heavily opposing the old gods (or void itself), and yet if you look outside of the seat of the pantheon during the Argus fight in Legion, you can see several void taken worlds. One could draw the conclusion that the Titans were busy being practically dead thanks to Sargeras, but that's _quite a number_ of just purple worlds overtaken with tentacles from a force that so far has shown us that they like to play the long game. Sargeras stabs Azeroth, leaving it much weaker and vulnerable to corruption, and the newly revived Titans just piss off wherever. I'm finding it a little weird that they either wouldn't quickly assess the damage, or at the very least check in with their favoured creations for reports of whatever they may have missed, or even giving them instructions moving forward. I mean, sure, cosmic beings that in this universe are essentially as close to Gods as can be just being big overseeing bosses wanting updates on how their business is doing might seem a little silly, but when they've literally intervened in several instances, and one of their own has just caused catastrophic damage to this planet they all seem to take a heavy interest in... That very much seems like something they should have a word with either the Keepers or the Aspects (or both!) about. Yet Aman'thul especially, the guy so worried about time flowing incorrectly, is just blissfully ignoring void struck worlds, a baby titan stabbed, and his favourite pet that he himself left in charge of keeping time safe trying desperately to call out to him, both as the guardian he left in charge, and the corrupted being that went off the rails. If Murazond can be full blown corrupted by forces of this void power that you oppose, and he is still desperately calling your name _as he dies,_ you'd kind of think one would at least take a quick look at what he wants. _Unless you already know what he wants._ Aman'thul has got the central and highest seat of the pantheon, seems like he's the one in charge... If he's a big overseer of time, maybe he can see everything happening already and everything going wrong. Not just void making a power play while his brother is actively trying to wreck their salvation, but also mortals of that world he's trying to save are meddling a little too much and making things worse. Hell, we convinced Algalon to adjust his report back to the Titans. A report that would've said the old gods corruption is spreading pretty hard, the Aspect that was left in charge of the planet itself has been corrupted to a point of trying to destroy said planet, the dream charged by another Aspect is turning into a corrupted nightmare, and dragons are getting independent enough to accidentally start _another_ Legion invasion. Not to mention the one god that's prison is still pretty secure is about to be jail-breaked by a dagger. Sure we 'clean up' the messes we're making, but at the same time, look at the lasting influence of the damage we cause with that cleanup. Events of one expansion lead into how shit goes wrong in the next. Our actions through these events have even directly taken us to the realm of death where shits going wrong _because of our dumb shit._ To me it all seems like grounds for Aman'thul to perhaps just want to hit a galactic reset button. Not in a literal sense, but this dude is actively ignoring a lot of major things, and Nozdormu sees something bad enough to try getting his attention. Either Aman'thul himself is getting corrupted to go full Sargeras on the cosmos, or he's just done with this shit and wants it out of sight.
Nozdormu thinks that the cause of him becoming Murozond is that he will be driven mad by the Old Gods, and he will try to subvert his own death. But if Murozond does not care about his death, as we saw in the End Time, then the reason for his betrayal must be something else. Maybe he isn't even mad at all.
Do you think you could get someone to do accurate subtitles? The auto generated ones aren't very good due to your accent and it makes it hard to understand due to my hearing impediment.
A question we need to ask - how certain are we that the "infinite" flight are truly lead by Murazond? All the caverns instances have the ability to disguise you ad something that makes sense. What if that applies to the "enemy" What if the infinite flight is really the true bronze flight from the future and Nozdormu has been turned for some time and hiding that, having us destroy the timelines for him. We certainly did a good job since cata?
I’ve said this several times, but its especially relevant here. I think the key is that the mortal races (the players) are outside of fate. Everyone that has said fate is on their side, we defeat. Everyone that causes us a chosen one, or that we are an agent of fate, either wants us on their side or is a literal cultist. If the mortal races break fate, that explains why the titans think nothing of wiping them out. It explains why Nozdormu can’t see some events. He can only see the titan approved timeline, but the mortal races can cause it to deviate from their plan. It explains why the Dracthyr were put in stasis not wiped out. Either Neltharion or Malygos knew that they would be useful because they weren’t bound to the titans plan like the dragon flights were.
I think the Old Gods just really hate lil titan infused Wrathion so much that they want a timeline where he couldn't have possibly existed. Wrathion is undoubtedly 'special' and unique to the 'one true timeline' as shown by his inability to change it - the Legion invaded not because he failed to prevent it, but because he DID try to prevent it. But if not for all of that, we wouldn't have been strong enough to defeat N'Zoth. Strings are being pulled here, and they appear to be titanic in origin, imo.
ty for all the great lore content and videos lately, brilliant to watch and cant denie I al looking forward to DF :) it looks very good , cant wait to play it next week :)
I'm not sure if blizzard have been handling time travelling really well or you just understand it in a very positive way on their behalf 🤣 This was really interesting lore thank you
This was amazing, I'm not sure why I didn't see it when it was uploaded. I'm assuming it's the RUclips Gods again, because this should have more then 52k views
So basically the titans (Aman'Thul) manipulated Nozdormu into making their end time a reality, which could be a total revamp of creation itself. So everything gets destroyed everyone dies, and a new creation begins. But then the void lords ''show'' Nozdormu the end goal of the titans, and he desperately tries to do everything in his power to prevent this from happening. But what if the vision the void shows Nozdormu is not the true end, so they to manipulate him into bringing THEIR true end to fruition?? Honestly I feel like the solution to all this is waking up Azeroth
You know just a sudden thought of a theory of sort, what if we actually managed to erase the existence of Murozond but in exchange we had Chronormu had its twisted version of herself as Queen instead, honestly I'll take it if ever, but yeah... 😅
Given thrall is something of a self-insert, I imagine he’d begun experimenting with peyote around the time of this “thrall ventures outside the timeline” stretch of the story. 😂
I think Thunder king or wrathion have the power of time since both of them had hart of ra'den and if i am not wrong he had the power of time before he gave it to nazdormu.
My personal out-there theory is that Nozdormu has ALWAYS been Murozond, from the moment he was given power over the time ways. He's just needs the ability to adjust the timeline in both ways to steer the timeline the way he wants to. Leading BOTH factions in the conflict gives him far greater control over the fine details, more nuanced than simply victory or defeat in any given battle.
I really think one of the patches is going to be us trying to stop norzdormu from fulfilling his quest to find out how deathwing was corrupted but we fail and he changes.
If only Blizzard cared about the story of their game as much as Michael does. This video sets up a potential villain with a complex, tragic story, far more interesting than the dud known as The Jailer.
Hey so kinda got me thinking. We think all the old gods are gone/defeated. But what if there was one other. One who was the old god of time? What if it wasn’t N’thoth that corrupted him but another old god that never actually got sealed by the titans?
The "something even worse is coming" and "X did nothing wrong" became new tropes. I don't think those tropes are bad per se, if you understand the practical meaning. The "something worse is coming" simply means that a power that competes against interest of one villain will the void in his absence, which is only natural. And "X did nothing wrong" is a bit tongue in cheek, because it just says that some villain did some questionable acts to prevent other villain from achieving his goals. In a world of villains, it's only natural that will compete. So of course this will keep happening. The thing is that it's up to us to decide who's agenda is the correct one. Or to make our own agenda. Yeah, Sargeras might have been right that the Void future is terrible, but if we say that he was "right", then we would have to accept the entire cosmos being burned to ash as well. Yeah, maybe the Void is right that there is something worse, but us agreeing with Void would mean that we want a dark mad tentacly world. It's not about that there is supposed to be a staircase of villains, one stronger and worse than the other. It's more a round table of villains who usually accurately point out flaws and negatives of the vision of the other villains, but they themselves will be a bit more shady about what they want to bring. And I think that is basically a good storytelling in principle. What Blizzard does wrong is mostly execution of the details. And sometimes pushing a "modern day" agenda. But the idea itself that there are multiple powerful villains that change when we cull some of them and something "even worse" comes basically makes sense. Because it does represent reality.
Rather than the Titans being evil (in the sense of wanting an outcome which isn't good for us), I'd rather see Nozdormu attempt to cheat his death as the only way to keep the timeline as it should be. In the end, we HAVE to kill Murozond because this is what he has seen and he HAS to become Murozond in order for it to happen. Similarly to how they changed Neltharion's fall into "an act of desperation", he also would commit to this final sacrifice in order to mantain his duty.
So.... since Nozdormu was tasked by Ra with, essentially, acting as a censor of time in favour of the Titans' "truth" could it be the Titans who turned him into Murozond, like the Old Gods turned Neltharion into Deathwing?
As to the final question, it doesn't really make sense for Murozond to be an attempt to save his own life, since Nozdormu saw himself die AS Murozond. So if becoming Murozond was an attempt to save his own life, why would he become the exact version of himself that he saw die? It seems beyond arrogance and into sheer stupidity at that point to think doing so would have any chance at saving himself. As keeper of the timeways he should really know better. And I suspect he does. Edit: Also, if the one true timeline includes Murozond's existence and eventual death, what does that say about the future that Murozond saw?
I've come to the theory that Titans = Marvels Celestials. Azeroth is an egg, nurtured by the life of the planet and when it hatches.. if we let it hatch.....we're all dead. Anyone who realizes this.. suddenly has a pretty good motivation to try and cull the world or somehow kill Azeroth itself.
How about this: Nozdormu was charged with keeping the one true timeline. He saw the whole timeline including his death in the form of Murozond at the end of it. So naturally, to keep the one true timeline, he MUST become Murozond because only then everything will play out as he saw it, right?
Only thing i can think is that galakrond or something tries to take his time powers and better to subvert his death than to let them have that infinite power becasue he at least know he will be stopped when he turns but still maybe a spur of the moment thing to stop someone worse getting the power ?
Sad.. He does because he has too.. despite doing all he can to protect it in the true time line he saw his death.. it was him evil, but him.. that is the true time line.. he must protect it .. even if it causes his own death. its a loop that must be kept. If he doesn't go evil that itself changes.. everything. Sad..
Anyone else wish that the Infinite was separate from Old Gods? Would of made them even more interesting. Kind of like how Forsworn Kyrians did not need to be pawns of the Jailor. They worked as an example of how f-ed up Bastion was.
I think the constant reminders that these videos wont do well remove myself of the video immersion, why dont put them on the end? It almosts breaks the hype of the thumbnail and video title
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I am here to report that so far, no, Nozdormu doesn't become void-y. He's fine, Chromie gives him a hug and saves him. I figure you already know this, but I wanted to slap this comment here so it is read by people.
i really dont understand how these videos are sending at a loss, they are so freaking awsome!
I guess its the views, they seem to be more niche?
@@s71rl2 Yep, views. We probably make 1/3rd of production costs back, so the support of Patrons is really vital for series like this.
Lore isnt everyone’s bag baby
Probably from it not being the normal video layout and instead a machima that's higher quality than most of the big boy's.
Probably would be making the money back if Bellular was known for this stuff, best we can do to help them make it worth it is share it to friends and family.
I personally think the views are going down because the game has been going down lorewise and just fucked things over
People that were interested in Wow lore and not playing wow on a loop just walk away from videos that even though they are good, they end up being better than whatever blizzard shits on their table
Bell you and the team MUST continue these videos. This was so dam good. The narration and omg the music. You guys did a wonderful job here.
What i find amazing in this Bellular's channel is that It clearly states that there are sponsors. He gives them respected time. Quality time. And when there is a massive series of lore videos - one which is GOD TIER QUALITY - there is non. Just simple entrance thankyou for all supporters and straight to the point of video. Love it!
I think it's entirely possible (and maybe even likely) that the end goal of the Titans was a cosmos devoid of free will and the 'curse of flesh.' For that reason, I like to believe that Murozond is an antihero, and I would love for that story to be explored in Dragonflight and beyond.
I think the ultimate story arc for one of Warcraft's biggest plots having the underpinning idea of "free will" and freedom is just absolutely brilliant from a theming perspective. It acts an emotional throughline for the entire game's existence, especially as a concept of order that we're fighting against and don't want.
Some people adventure for glory, for responsibility, for vengeance, as vanguards of a safer world, to gain power, to create a legacy. Invariably, though, the single point of causality that all adventurers have in Warcraft is their free will. The majority make a choice to venture forth from the comforts of their homeland and become the greatest legends the lands could witness. Free will is, in my opinion, the single most important idea that makes an adventurer what they are. They choose where they go, guided by whim and the next great threat.
If the loss of free will ends up being the goal of the Titans, I think that would probably be one of the most effective writing choices the narrative teams have ever considered.
@@Crowald soooooo, you're saying the titans agrees with madara's concept? KEKW
I like the idea of him being an antihero, maybe the dude isn't as evil or crazy as we think? If that'd be the case, the story writers should step on the gas on making him seem evil while they can
@@jordansweet7738 yeah no, seeing how i hoped they did something similar for garrosh and sylvanas previously. not holding my breath on that
The flaw with the curse of flesh story is outside of humans dwarves gnomes all the other races naturally evolved from other creatures. Orcs are aliens and even tho the titans did visit draenor there was no titan soul within so they did little to protect the planet from the elements. Thinking of that, the titans left drenor to destroy itself and one way or another it did eventually become uninhabitable
Loving this lore series you and your team have been creating for us!
It really shows how much you guys *enjoy* making this content. Fantastic work.
I just realised that Murozond is an anagram of Nozdormu as the corrupted version of himself.
Best one yet guys. Great video. Nozdormu is one of the best characters in the entire lore.
I absolutely LOVE this series. Thank you for creating them. Keep up the great work.
So great! The Lead, the writing and the narrative! Thanks for those amazing pieces of lore and yourselves you bring to us!
Great video! Proud to be a Patreon (: keep it up the great job bellular!
I love these vids thanks for the work guys :)
Thanks
Brilliant video yet again, it should honestly be promoted by blizzard if they had any common sense. Wonderful work.
Also special shoutout to that Thrall scene of him in space, lovely editing.
I'm personally still putting bets on the big main threat Nozdormu is worried about is tied to Aman'thul himself. The Titans are heavily opposing the old gods (or void itself), and yet if you look outside of the seat of the pantheon during the Argus fight in Legion, you can see several void taken worlds. One could draw the conclusion that the Titans were busy being practically dead thanks to Sargeras, but that's _quite a number_ of just purple worlds overtaken with tentacles from a force that so far has shown us that they like to play the long game.
Sargeras stabs Azeroth, leaving it much weaker and vulnerable to corruption, and the newly revived Titans just piss off wherever. I'm finding it a little weird that they either wouldn't quickly assess the damage, or at the very least check in with their favoured creations for reports of whatever they may have missed, or even giving them instructions moving forward.
I mean, sure, cosmic beings that in this universe are essentially as close to Gods as can be just being big overseeing bosses wanting updates on how their business is doing might seem a little silly, but when they've literally intervened in several instances, and one of their own has just caused catastrophic damage to this planet they all seem to take a heavy interest in... That very much seems like something they should have a word with either the Keepers or the Aspects (or both!) about.
Yet Aman'thul especially, the guy so worried about time flowing incorrectly, is just blissfully ignoring void struck worlds, a baby titan stabbed, and his favourite pet that he himself left in charge of keeping time safe trying desperately to call out to him, both as the guardian he left in charge, and the corrupted being that went off the rails.
If Murazond can be full blown corrupted by forces of this void power that you oppose, and he is still desperately calling your name _as he dies,_ you'd kind of think one would at least take a quick look at what he wants.
_Unless you already know what he wants._ Aman'thul has got the central and highest seat of the pantheon, seems like he's the one in charge... If he's a big overseer of time, maybe he can see everything happening already and everything going wrong. Not just void making a power play while his brother is actively trying to wreck their salvation, but also mortals of that world he's trying to save are meddling a little too much and making things worse. Hell, we convinced Algalon to adjust his report back to the Titans. A report that would've said the old gods corruption is spreading pretty hard, the Aspect that was left in charge of the planet itself has been corrupted to a point of trying to destroy said planet, the dream charged by another Aspect is turning into a corrupted nightmare, and dragons are getting independent enough to accidentally start _another_ Legion invasion. Not to mention the one god that's prison is still pretty secure is about to be jail-breaked by a dagger.
Sure we 'clean up' the messes we're making, but at the same time, look at the lasting influence of the damage we cause with that cleanup. Events of one expansion lead into how shit goes wrong in the next. Our actions through these events have even directly taken us to the realm of death where shits going wrong _because of our dumb shit._
To me it all seems like grounds for Aman'thul to perhaps just want to hit a galactic reset button. Not in a literal sense, but this dude is actively ignoring a lot of major things, and Nozdormu sees something bad enough to try getting his attention. Either Aman'thul himself is getting corrupted to go full Sargeras on the cosmos, or he's just done with this shit and wants it out of sight.
These lore/theory videos are my favorites!! Love anything Nozdormu related!
Nozdormu thinks that the cause of him becoming Murozond is that he will be driven mad by the Old Gods, and he will try to subvert his own death. But if Murozond does not care about his death, as we saw in the End Time, then the reason for his betrayal must be something else. Maybe he isn't even mad at all.
Oh well, not everyone is interested in the lore. Yet, this content is probably the best you guys ever made!
Do you think you could get someone to do accurate subtitles? The auto generated ones aren't very good due to your accent and it makes it hard to understand due to my hearing impediment.
A question we need to ask - how certain are we that the "infinite" flight are truly lead by Murazond?
All the caverns instances have the ability to disguise you ad something that makes sense.
What if that applies to the "enemy"
What if the infinite flight is really the true bronze flight from the future and Nozdormu has been turned for some time and hiding that, having us destroy the timelines for him.
We certainly did a good job since cata?
This is the kind of video that I gladly wait the whole week just to watch!
I’ve said this several times, but its especially relevant here. I think the key is that the mortal races (the players) are outside of fate. Everyone that has said fate is on their side, we defeat. Everyone that causes us a chosen one, or that we are an agent of fate, either wants us on their side or is a literal cultist.
If the mortal races break fate, that explains why the titans think nothing of wiping them out. It explains why Nozdormu can’t see some events. He can only see the titan approved timeline, but the mortal races can cause it to deviate from their plan. It explains why the Dracthyr were put in stasis not wiped out. Either Neltharion or Malygos knew that they would be useful because they weren’t bound to the titans plan like the dragon flights were.
Great video, can't wait to see how it all plays out.
The chills at the end... LOVE IT
Great series! Best telling of these stories out there.
Great job Bell! You and your team did a wonderful job!
Nozdormu has to be one of my favorite characters. He's legitimately just so... deep within lore that he's literally almost everywhere.
amazing video. thanks guys!
Great video, loved it!
I really appreciate these videos
Reminds me of Nobbel but more of a story telling than an educational video.
Our Bronze man is truly the best of men. On a more serious note love the quality of these videos, very well made!
Incredible music choice btw.
Amazing job, loved these videos!!
I think the Old Gods just really hate lil titan infused Wrathion so much that they want a timeline where he couldn't have possibly existed. Wrathion is undoubtedly 'special' and unique to the 'one true timeline' as shown by his inability to change it - the Legion invaded not because he failed to prevent it, but because he DID try to prevent it. But if not for all of that, we wouldn't have been strong enough to defeat N'Zoth. Strings are being pulled here, and they appear to be titanic in origin, imo.
Marvelous! I'm very excited to see the lore play out! Still not sure I'll go to retail, but hope they get it right!
fantastic video thankyou so much!
I just hope blizzard makes sure the story can’t be data mined like they did with the Calia storyline
Awesome video !
@15:36 I never noticed how the bronze throne's accented colors are the infinites blue and black, kinda scary.
Thanks for the video
ty for all the great lore content and videos lately, brilliant to watch and cant denie I al looking forward to DF :) it looks very good , cant wait to play it next week :)
I wish it brought y'all more revenue I would love an entire wow lore series like this for all the major characters in WoW
I'm not sure if blizzard have been handling time travelling really well or you just understand it in a very positive way on their behalf 🤣 This was really interesting lore thank you
This was amazing, I'm not sure why I didn't see it when it was uploaded. I'm assuming it's the RUclips Gods again, because this should have more then 52k views
Amazing video 👏
Thank you for this video!
Money don't make the Channel great, video's like this do. Great job guys!
incredible video
This is why Time Travel should NEVER be incorporated into a story.
Blizzard comes up with the stories, this channel brings it to LIFE!!!!!
They better not bring Murazond in yet. He deserves his own entire expansion. He's that big of a deal.
Typo in the description, I believe it should read "... led an existence near impossible..."
So basically the titans (Aman'Thul) manipulated Nozdormu into making their end time a reality, which could be a total revamp of creation itself. So everything gets destroyed everyone dies, and a new creation begins. But then the void lords ''show'' Nozdormu the end goal of the titans, and he desperately tries to do everything in his power to prevent this from happening.
But what if the vision the void shows Nozdormu is not the true end, so they to manipulate him into bringing THEIR true end to fruition??
Honestly I feel like the solution to all this is waking up Azeroth
I think the titans want to "awaken" azeroth destroying all life on it and when he realizes that he shifts into morozond
dealing with the timey wimey stuff will make your head hurt
One of the best lore videos in a long while. This is really interesting and fantastically made.
You know just a sudden thought of a theory of sort, what if we actually managed to erase the existence of Murozond but in exchange we had Chronormu had its twisted version of herself as Queen instead, honestly I'll take it if ever, but yeah... 😅
Not Chomormu...Mireoch
Given thrall is something of a self-insert, I imagine he’d begun experimenting with peyote around the time of this “thrall ventures outside the timeline” stretch of the story. 😂
Quality Video!
10/10 🎉
I think Thunder king or wrathion have the power of time since both of them had hart of ra'den and if i am not wrong he had the power of time before he gave it to nazdormu.
My personal out-there theory is that Nozdormu has ALWAYS been Murozond, from the moment he was given power over the time ways. He's just needs the ability to adjust the timeline in both ways to steer the timeline the way he wants to. Leading BOTH factions in the conflict gives him far greater control over the fine details, more nuanced than simply victory or defeat in any given battle.
Thank you so much
I really think one of the patches is going to be us trying to stop norzdormu from fulfilling his quest to find out how deathwing was corrupted but we fail and he changes.
Or worse, we succeed and the knowledge we bring back is what tips him over the edge?
Wow, I know I'm probably wayyyy late to this realization, but Murozond is actually an anagram for Nozdormu.......(Mind Blown)
These are bloody brilliant!!!!!
If the one true timeline is the one he saw himself turn to void, then in effect, he must turn to uphold the line he saw.
sooo good i need more lore.
This is absolutly insanely good, just wow!
Man i really hope that Blizzard is taking notes
If only Blizzard cared about the story of their game as much as Michael does. This video sets up a potential villain with a complex, tragic story, far more interesting than the dud known as The Jailer.
Good work boys, leaving a comment just for the algorithm
Wow Ty for this Vid. So Good.
Hey so kinda got me thinking. We think all the old gods are gone/defeated. But what if there was one other. One who was the old god of time? What if it wasn’t N’thoth that corrupted him but another old god that never actually got sealed by the titans?
I'm realising now that I was so clueless about the story of the dragons
The "something even worse is coming" and "X did nothing wrong" became new tropes. I don't think those tropes are bad per se, if you understand the practical meaning. The "something worse is coming" simply means that a power that competes against interest of one villain will the void in his absence, which is only natural. And "X did nothing wrong" is a bit tongue in cheek, because it just says that some villain did some questionable acts to prevent other villain from achieving his goals. In a world of villains, it's only natural that will compete. So of course this will keep happening.
The thing is that it's up to us to decide who's agenda is the correct one. Or to make our own agenda. Yeah, Sargeras might have been right that the Void future is terrible, but if we say that he was "right", then we would have to accept the entire cosmos being burned to ash as well. Yeah, maybe the Void is right that there is something worse, but us agreeing with Void would mean that we want a dark mad tentacly world. It's not about that there is supposed to be a staircase of villains, one stronger and worse than the other. It's more a round table of villains who usually accurately point out flaws and negatives of the vision of the other villains, but they themselves will be a bit more shady about what they want to bring.
And I think that is basically a good storytelling in principle.
What Blizzard does wrong is mostly execution of the details. And sometimes pushing a "modern day" agenda. But the idea itself that there are multiple powerful villains that change when we cull some of them and something "even worse" comes basically makes sense. Because it does represent reality.
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Rather than the Titans being evil (in the sense of wanting an outcome which isn't good for us), I'd rather see Nozdormu attempt to cheat his death as the only way to keep the timeline as it should be. In the end, we HAVE to kill Murozond because this is what he has seen and he HAS to become Murozond in order for it to happen. Similarly to how they changed Neltharion's fall into "an act of desperation", he also would commit to this final sacrifice in order to mantain his duty.
Banger video.
So.... since Nozdormu was tasked by Ra with, essentially, acting as a censor of time in favour of the Titans' "truth" could it be the Titans who turned him into Murozond, like the Old Gods turned Neltharion into Deathwing?
I really enjoy these lore videos
I dont remember this bit about Thrall traveling through time. Where was this told?
Now THIS is a lore video
Consider this vid an investment. Maybe you lose money on this, but in the future... cuz goddamn. This was 10/10.
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Do you think Chromie be new timeless one when we kill eventually Murozond?
As to the final question, it doesn't really make sense for Murozond to be an attempt to save his own life, since Nozdormu saw himself die AS Murozond.
So if becoming Murozond was an attempt to save his own life, why would he become the exact version of himself that he saw die?
It seems beyond arrogance and into sheer stupidity at that point to think doing so would have any chance at saving himself.
As keeper of the timeways he should really know better. And I suspect he does.
Edit: Also, if the one true timeline includes Murozond's existence and eventual death, what does that say about the future that Murozond saw?
I've come to the theory that Titans = Marvels Celestials. Azeroth is an egg, nurtured by the life of the planet and when it hatches.. if we let it hatch.....we're all dead. Anyone who realizes this.. suddenly has a pretty good motivation to try and cull the world or somehow kill Azeroth itself.
Neltherion, Malygos, and Nozdormu, seemed all doomed to fall, will Ysera and Alextrazsa fall as well?
Is Bellular going for a Builder Spender economy spec?
LOL I'm loving the pronunciation of Visaaage
WOW, this *is* in fact, INSANE!
"All that matters... is _this moment."_
I'm really enjoying these videos! It's a shame people just pass over them :(
How about this: Nozdormu was charged with keeping the one true timeline. He saw the whole timeline including his death in the form of Murozond at the end of it. So naturally, to keep the one true timeline, he MUST become Murozond because only then everything will play out as he saw it, right?
Ohhh some jojo action. We need a scene were a bronze dragon is like "da azroth" and freezes time. Fancy time magic for the win.
Only thing i can think is that galakrond or something tries to take his time powers and better to subvert his death than to let them have that infinite power becasue he at least know he will be stopped when he turns but still maybe a spur of the moment thing to stop someone worse getting the power ?
Sad.. He does because he has too.. despite doing all he can to protect it in the true time line he saw his death.. it was him evil, but him.. that is the true time line.. he must protect it .. even if it causes his own death. its a loop that must be kept. If he doesn't go evil that itself changes.. everything. Sad..
Damn fine job.
Anyone else wish that the Infinite was separate from Old Gods? Would of made them even more interesting.
Kind of like how Forsworn Kyrians did not need to be pawns of the Jailor. They worked as an example of how f-ed up Bastion was.
I think the constant reminders that these videos wont do well remove myself of the video immersion, why dont put them on the end?
It almosts breaks the hype of the thumbnail and video title
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Thanks for making this awesome video :)
"You don't know what you have done!"