Why COPPA and the FTC Are Doomed to Failure
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- Well, you asked for it, so we delivered: a video on the Financial Trading Commission (FTC) and the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA).
Shout out to Arlo, by the way, whose video on this subject is probably a lot more useful if you want to gauge what's really going on: • My Channel Might Be In... .
This video might upset a lot of people because we're not actively panicking about the future. A lot of noise is being made about this issue, and people are rightly very worried. At the same time, we'd recommend exercising caution and adopting a wait-and-see approach until we find out just how bad things are going to get.
RUclips seems to fall apart every other week. What is with this place?
Anyway, this video featured a lot more of Mrs Field's Cookies than we were expecting, we promise we're not being sponsored. On the other hand, if you want to help us keep the lights on, a donation to our Patreon would be greatly appreciated!
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Anyway, we're interested to see what reaction this video gets. We're going back to something a little more typical next time. Honestly if this weren't a bit of a slow news week, we'd have been inclined to do something else anyway!
Lots of love,
BretonStripes ( / bretonstriped ) and Kotor ( / kotorcomics )
Sources:
www.ftc.gov/news-events/press...
www.tubefilter.com/2019/05/07... 
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"I killed a man, you?"
"A Mario toy was in the background of my video."
"Mama mia."
Hahaha
@@Pixelcraftian lol
AHAHAH
*backs away slowly*
"Meant for kids" and "watched by kids" are two very, very different things.
Vague and defined by your accusers. It's basically what ever the hell they say.
Yeah, they dont care tho
*looks awkwardly at MLP:FIM*
Watched by kids is basically a child watched it and Meant for Kids are FOR KIDS
And babies are just tiny, drunk adults.
"We're creators, not babysitters."
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- RUclips creators in a nutshell
Spread this to the rest of the internet boys.
Parents: *Lets child watch RUclips unsupervised*
Also Parents: OMG OUR CHILD IS BEING TRACK WSMFISBD!!11!!! 1!!! 1!
Unfortunately, you are the babysitter! What about monetizing edger content?
I don't collect data on anyone. Hell, I don't even give a rats ass about my own statistics You Tube has generated for my cheesy channel. So how is it my fault that You Tube, Google, or Alphabet is collecting data on children? You want to stop this collection? Go to the source, not the talent.
101st like
i will do my duty fellow brother.
RUclips: No swearing or inappropriate content
Also RUclips: No kids content
Also also RUclips: Only cat videos, because THAT'S what everyone loves!
Everybody else: *confused screaming*
Hi, jim.
Hi, carl.
How is your health insurance
Ok
What is your opinion on... oxygen
Breathable
Look what COPPA has done.
This means no more content here
@@chips2901 poor TerminalMontage
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have steak because a baby can't chew it"
-Mark Twain
I saw this comment somewhere but i dont care spread the word brotha
RUclips are the ones doing the censoring, so they deserve to be shut down. This is about data collection and advertising.
Tbh its not the kids fault,its the parents handling them
EDIT:typo
I know this is from another persons comment but please spread the word
This should be the slogan of anti COPPA
Spoiler Alert: They aren't 'protecting the kids', they're protecting government funds.
Government funds should be unprotected! #GovernmentFundsShouldBeUnprotected
It’s greed...
Dang, that's rough 😐
Actually no its not about funding. If it was there be a lot more fines issues. RUclips has Misled the law makers how much control creators have. I guarantee you the first time they go to enforce the law on a Creator it will fell. And they will turn their attention back to RUclips. RUclips is trying to shift the blame to the creators. Why are there so many stupid people on RUclips
Learning Thru The Insanity I hope you’re right man because if you aren’t... we are all screwed!!!
This dumb law can potentially ruin someone’s life, as the fine can cause the loss of college funds, owning a house, and even maintaining a family.
@L B agreed
Hey on the bright side morgz will loose money and so will all the roblox youtubers
@@insertoriginalnamehere2960 roblox isn't the worst game ever fortnite is but I see what you mean
Tell that to the FTC. Lots of people haven't realized that making videos is an actual job.
@L B > I think everyone fined should sign up for a class action suite to go after RUclips or Google.
And the government - get the Supreme Court to somehow pass a (non-binding of course) "Congressional Censure" telling Congress to (in the words of Jon Stewart recently) "DO THEIR JOB!" and not pass ridiculously vague laws that could make a crime out of (almost) literally ANYTHING.
*Coppa* : "Protecting Children"
*Also Coppa* : Might accidentally sue children under 13 for hundreds of thousands of dollars for posting videos on RUclips themselves.
Kids under 13 can't even post videos on RUclips themselves, because they agreed that they're over 13 by the time they created the account or are supervised by their parents, which means that their parents did uploaded the videos and gave the permission. That's the whole point here which actually everyone misses.
@@asmylia9880 *what if they lied?*
Living Flower explain this I’m eight and I make RUclips videos
@@rayleeface192 exactly you probably lied about your age so the FTC could be making 5-8 year old kids in a horrible spot
Jbreak my dad made my Channel I’m also on iPad
FTC’s view on a Sausage Party clip:
- animated film
- talking and singing foods
- bright colours
‘must be for kids’
Wait for the screwed up stuff kiddies, don't forget to watch the end & make sure to watch it with the whole family :D
-FTC
if that was the case,then *South Park* would be for kids.
@@poggersuni9637 thats exactly the point they are making
There's tons of cartoons that's not suitable for kids. Such as some 18+ cartoons. So, COPPA wants kids to watch any cartoons?
Remember in the incredibles, when the government banned heroes to make the world safer?
So...
Same within the lore of Overwatch. Look at how well that turned out....
Same with Civil War. The comic. And the movie
Same with the real world
@@sarahtheanimetomboy7863 But Overwatch f*cking sucks.
I was just watching both movies reminding me of this.
"So, I killed a man, you?"
"I just put color on my video"
Coppa compliant, colorless video:
ruclips.net/video/JVZsbE4E68w/видео.html
Coppa your done for
Coppa and FTC your Fired
Adult cartoons: *exists*
Boomers that work for COPPA: _impossible!_
Karen: "All video games are kid friendly!"
M-rated games: *exists*
Karen: *surprised Pikachu face*
Kids videos exists
Coppa I am about to end this man career
COPPA: exists
Depression: hello there
@@TeamFriendship8600 I like M-rated Games i like them hard
COPPA are secretly Child Predators and Pedophiles that wants to see more "Contents with Kids on it" type of sh*t.
"When did RUclips ever show actual genuine interest in meeting its creators needs?"
Before they were bought by Google.
Ouch. The truth hurts.
November 13, 2006
It was a sad day. I had to make a google account so I could continue using youtube and update my password because 3 characters wasn't long enough. Granted my buddy hijacked it and I wound up deleting it from embarrassment but still.
Yeah. "Don't be evil...that's our job."
google saved youtube, im sorry to shut you down, but youtube would have been dead long ago without google
So adults are deciding what kids like?...
...get me a red flag because that’s bull
Edit: Jeez, I never thought this would get noticed so much. I just saw a possible joke opportunity and posted it.
Thanks for all the likes 😊
This has nothing to do with what kids like.
@@freakindarko the categorizing of the video does. But the reason why coppa is a law is not
@@variamente6855 The required categorization of videos is just a byproduct of YT's settlement in which they admitted to illegally collecting data from kids 12 and under. The only reason why you have to categorize your videos now, is so that YT can keep their data collection process turned on site-wide.
The law was probably written by washed up 60 something year olds because according to FTC, if you say words like "Yeah" and "duh" it mean you are targeting your videos towards children. I use those words often enough in my day to interactions with the world at large... and I am 26. The FTC is filled with out of touch jerks that want to line their pockets. Remember that this the same agency that hired Ajit Pai. I dont trust the FTC farther than i can throw them. And I have a weak throwing arm.
@@freakindarko yeah i already know that?
2019: PewDiePie vs T series
2020: Coppa vs RUclips
2021 : ????
*Google vs It's main source of income
And Creators vs RUclips (because they’re removing subtitles)
2020: COVID-19 vs. the Uninted States
(and COVID is winning cause we’re stupid)
angsty mr krabs I know I was joking.
RUclips Kids: Exists
Coppa, Google, RUclips,: I’ve never met this man In My entire life
Yeah pretty much
Kids RUclips will do better without coppa's stupid warnings and information
@ROCKY III Mario Advance Thank you very much my friend
It was Major awesome
"Coppa will fail"
"Everybody liked that"
(I’m not here)
Lauren Reynolds I’m from the USA, I’m not a political expert but I *KNOW* that for a *FACT* that Trump can stop this.... it’s just will he?
Foxy 02016, probably not.
Almost the devil number
Clearly you don't know what coppa is. It won't fail. It shouldn't fail. Just because you're dumb and don't understand what, Coppa is doesn't mean that it should. RUclips doesn't have the right to collect data on children.
2017: has to be for kids
2019: okay guys you can't post anything anymore
Anything interesting at least
RUclips will legit go bust because everyone'll just stop using the app.
@@Very-Uncorrect I agree with this
@@Very-Uncorrect i think thats good i think we need the big youtubers to change platforms and their followers should switch too; then RUclips wont make money bc it doesnt have any users but we can still enjoy our content
The term "Guys" is offensive you moron
Now we're all in danger
Coppa has destroyed my RUclips Kids toy channel WD Toys. Revenue is down more than 50% from Last Year. This is my full time job and I support my 6 kids ages 3-12 with my channel. Now I don't know how I am going to pay my bills.
Will file a lawsuit against RUclips for their abuse of power and you will likely win because that's unjust if I was the judge I would make you pay back all the revenue they took from you and also other content creators 10 times over that means they will be paying for the rest of their lives!
@@senseipsychoticbombah5479
It's a Bivens thing he'll have to do.
@@zenitsurequeim425 dude he just said he uses the videos to support his family, he's not making profit, he's making ends meet
I'll sub for no reason to help
@@zenitsurequeim425 ya he's trying to have a roof over his head.
FTC: "We are protecting children!"
also the FTC: *might accidentally sue thousands of minors for posting art/animations/pets/ "child aimed" content*
This sucks. One of my friends is under 13 and he wants to upload a gaming video. I wish I could do something. But I am not old enough to file a lawsuit or anything.
How is art , pet's or animation onky for kid's though ?
I mean plenty of adults have pet's.
Plenty of adults like animation.
Also plenty of adults are into art.
The FTC / Coppa is so out of touch with pretty much everything and as such do not need to make law's about an issue they know nothing about.
When a well-intended law is being abused for pure tyranny.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Business as usual, in other words.
This law was NEVER well intended, praetoriancorps. It was from the beginning a reaction to the Supreme Court saying "No, you cannot make 'obscene' artwork illegal!" when they threw out COPA (one P).
Ain't this law illegal in some way?
@@Fire-Manz If you're a strict constitutionalist, basically 70 percent of everything the government does is illegal in some way. The FTC in its entirety would never have gotten created if George Washington or Thomas Jefferson were president.
Idea: stop introducing pointless laws and instead give your children ad block
Simple problems require simple solutions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Someone give this man a prize.
#thinkwithcommonsensebitch
Card / dlr yeet a vpn on their pc
Card / dlr even better: don’t let RUclips babysit your kids
RUclips Kids: *exists*
COPPA: We didn’t see that...
_i’ll ignore that_
Why is nobody caring about the kids Sid, do you think we just want to watch peppa pig surprise videos?
No, we want to watch content creators that do hard work, that’s why we go to RUclips, RUclips kids is literally just cringe and has barely any content that is interesting for older kid audiences, also it’s moderation is worst than roblox.
@@breagle4525 Then complain about youtube,whoo want to raise childs in this platform anyways .
RUclips: *Gets caught tracking kids*
Also RUclips: “It’s the creators fault!”
Anything entertaining or appealing to humans of any age: *exists*
FTC: Kids would click on this. Pay us.
Hippy hoppity your money is now our property.
Basically 😒
We should just start a new internet
@@JimTheKid Its time for a new age. Its time for a F***ing crusade.
Shi Hao Ng Yes yes it is
2019: all of that is child appealing
2020: all content on yt is child appealing
2021: your existence is child appealing
lpsfairylightz everybody is overreacting about COPPA. The ftc isn’t gonna fine small creators with 4 subscribers 42k. They’re going after channels like ryans toy reviews who make millions of of children. People lie about your age all the time so don’t tell me “Oh my god the demographic is 18+ durrrrr”
@@Cocaine_Clown its a
*joke*
lpsfairylightz sorry man i can’t tell with the way people are right now the line between ironic and serious lol
@TechMasterJason 2021: The real world is being affected by this rule
2022: Everything is affected
@TechMasterJason here’s mines. I started in 2018 so I will start there.
2018: decent time. The update never existed.
2019: eh ok
2020: *THE UPDATE*
2021: 1 year after *THE UPDATE* depression
2022-whenever RUclips shuts down: even more depression
The main two party that's at fault here are:
1. Incompetent parents who use RUclips to babysit their children, unmonitored + autoplay.
2. The Clickbait predatory Spiderman Elsa "Kids" videos.
Then everyone else end up suffering because of them.
Hello there
*RUclips Kids exists*
Coppa: Ok
*RUclips exists*
Coppa: Wait that’s illegal
Ahem
FTC: _animaton is for kids_
litterally everyone: *points at southpark, hazbin hotel, rick and morty, family guy, and litterally every other adult animated cartoon*
_and hentai_
Don't forget Jojo's bizarre adventures, Trigun or any other rather brutal anime not meant for a young audience.
@@alexandrafranchuk let FTC watch Itadaki seieki or boku no pico
PREACH
SERIOUSLY THO! And Stuff like Homestuck and games that focus on mature topics will be b* tch slapped into oblivion
China's the best at policing the internet.
China's the best at violating human rights as well.
Edit: 1,000 likes!? That's the most likes I've gotten in a comment! Thanks everyone! You're all amazing!
@Commentor1 wrong
And that why Hong Kong hates there guts right now ladies and gentlemen.
@@angelarzola2438 not really lol
@@Miinish wrong
@@Miinish the country is doing fine
It would be better if they didnt stalk people at all.
Yeah if parents can't raise there children in an right way. Why making kids then. RUclips is for adults and responsibly teenagers
@@CharmineX I know im just saying these companies know our info
@@infinity__. Don't use their products then
My dream was to become a RUclips animator like all my idols...
Odd1sout & Jaiden Animations...
But I'm planning on giving that up
I have officially lost hope in RUclips.
I'm planning to delete all my content I worked so hard on in December 31st or on the last day of December.
It's honestly better than getting your channel deleted.
I'm planning to make the most of it...
But I highly doubt I'll enjoy youtube anymore.
I'm sorry guys, but ya really did mess up big this time...
I can't afford premium & I only do this for fun!
I don't do it for money I just wanted that dream...
I don't know how COPYRIGHT ISSUES work or HOW TO GET YOUR CHANNEL back after RUclips deletes it...
So I'm officially just gonna give up on it.
But props to you guys for having the strength to keep your channels going.
Full support all the way
Never give up on your dreams, but do what you see fit buddy.
Godspeed.
I too am a youtube animator with the same dreams as you. I opened up this channel when I was 13 years old and had so much ambition for my own content. Now that the FTC is enforcing its scumbag rules upon us, it just isnt fair. I could lose both my videos and all my favorite animators in one night. Someone needs to stop these assholes. But those things aside, I think you should continue doing what you love. : ) I hope you become like your favorites.
I was thinking about making animations, LEGO brick films and let's plays.
But thanks to FTC and COPPA...
It's not possible.
Thanks a lot US government... 😓
I quit
Edit: I'm still gonna do art though
here's why! www.deviantart.com/momo-hibiki/journal/COPPA-on-RUclips-828318624
This update of course gives animation a bad name.
FTC's view on a child's play clip:
- child in name
- colorful toy doll
- child actor
'must be for kids'
- the toy doll kills a man
FTC: PERFECT 4 KIDS!!!!!
Imagine them showing happy tree friends to kids
What about the guys that do old toy restorations?
The FTC's stance is more like:
- child in name?
- colorful toy doll?
- cartoon?
- video game?
- child actor?
If yes to any, 'must be for kids'
Elsagate?
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
--Jefferson
ah crap...I just used history...great now I'm gonna get fined.
Nah, history is to boring. Unless it was by Adam Conover, I don’t think stating that is gonna get you broke.
ok, but this is less about the government as a whole and more about the fact that the people who are being hired to create these laws are old men who dont even use smartphones half the time. (I'm not even kidding)
Snowleaper yeah, it’s evolving, but backwards... wait... they’re doing it to make everything self-destruct, than, it will be back to the good old days-shite.
Jumping of a tall building is freedome.
Letus the Dragon
History’s boring unless it’s in a musical (Hamilton)
In order to violate COPPA, one must be an operator of a website.
According to the definitions put forth by the FTC, an "operator" would be one who "collects or maintains personal information..." or "on whose behalf such information is collected or maintained".
Content creators on RUclips do not operate, have any access or control over the website's software that gathers and stores personal data of it's users. Secondly, RUclips does not collect or maintain user data on behalf of content creators. With or without content creators, the data would continue to be amassed.
RUclips collects and maintains user information on behalf of RUclips and RUclips alone, for its own targeted marketing purposes.
By the FTC's own definition, content creators are not and cannot be defined as "operators" and as such, COPPA should not be applied to them.
Regardless, while they are mercilessly thrown under the COPPA bus, it's business as usual and RUclips happily continues accumulating user data for their benefit. Let's be real here, we all know its not as if kids under 13 are going to stop lying about their age to make online accounts and watching videos that were not intended for children whether on RUclips or elsewhere. So really, all this is helping who?
"Why coppa will fail" *sweats nervously as we are a month into it*
Can't parents, I dunno, *pay attention* to their kids' activities instead of us having to fear large, unnecessary fines for our content?
Exactly... people/parents are getting more and more lazy, and expect others to all be "child safe" instead of doing their damn job and watching over their kids.
According to Mat Patt who runs the GameThoery channel, that argument that RUclips should have used was actually NEVER made in their own defense.
No, that'd be too easy
Agreed, parents should control what their child see on the internet. Like, my parents didn't control me on the internet that much, i'm only 16 and i'm already scarred over what i've seen on the internet.
Can't say that my parents are bad, but my dad might have exposed me to videogames way too early...
When a law for kids, counts porn as for kids, you know somethings wrong.
Well I guess hentai is for kids now
potato Hazbin Hotel and Happy Tree Friends: You sure about that?
A company asks kids if they like cheese
FTC: ladies and gentlemen, we got em
Best solution: Just stop stealing our data companies goddamn it.
COPPA: "Animations are for kids."
Me: Okay Boomers
COPPA: "What do you mean? Are there adult Animations as well?"
Me: _laughs in adult swim._
(Edit: Wow thanks for the likes tho!)
Does mayonnaise count as a child content?
Even most boomers know that animation isn't always for kids because of South Park or Family Guy 😂
@Noname It's still worth pointing out that some boomers will find whatever excuse to justify their point. Trust me, I have grandparents 😂😂😂
Theorislav
YOU FECKING DAMN RIGHT THEY DO!
FTC: we are protecting children
Also FTC: *ruining their childhood*
@@zekticezy Hahaha I didn't think about that lol.
2009: do everything
2019:do nothing
Ollylukoe More like 2010 because In 2020 this is gonna happen
We need to push RUclips back into the free site in once was
Me: **in jail**
Cellmate: What are you in for?
Me: I showed a cereal box in my video and couldn't pay the fines.
Cellmate: Omg me too!
That's my fear as well....
that was an unexpected ending..... i like it :D
Facts
Wait, that makes the FTC a cereal killer...
lord if someone has a heart attack over worrying over coppa and dies
Fun: exists
Coppa: *long live the king*
RUclips is the largest king of all kings
ruclips.net/video/DOcCIdl9qUY/видео.html
Oh yeah you like having fun well am sorry for what I did from last year's Show on RUclips I'll be careful
Coppa stands for
Childish
Omish
O
P unplesent
A
@@barrythird3297 ok 8 year old
COPPA : *snaps fingers*
Kids : *turn into dust*
COPPA : *evil laughs*
Later...
Kids : *pretends to be 18* (つ◉益◉)つ
COPPA : oh fack ( ﾟ,_ゝﾟ)
Kids: Just lie about your age boys, lie about your age
Me no u ultimate coppa Fake age
That's like Thanos would do
FTC: "Colorful, Cartoon Characters"
Sony: "We'll be fine!"
Xbox: "...this is fine."
Nintendo: " *ight imma head out.* "
So much for making Nintendo content...
Beerus Jeebus I don’t think Sony will get away easily, they made Some cartoon characters like Daxter
Actually the law applies to all video games since apparently according to COPPA and the FTC video games of any kind are appropriate for little kids.
The issue is that old men are making laws on new tech that they won't even use
yeah. Also, the people who were complaining enough for the FTC to do this 3 years early (They revise COPPA every 10 years) was concerned parents. if they are so concerned as to request the law be changed 3 years before scheduled because their kid is getting ads about legos instead of beer then they should just put their children on youtube kids.
and old women, don't want to be sexist. ;D
Not only do they not know tech, they don't know media either.
Lockstin & Gnoggin
used himself as an example saying he makes Pokemon videos about stuff like alchemichal symbols, Ohm's Law, and even just in-universe religion. No kid watches that. But if the FTC uses out-of-touch adults to look at the videos they'll say it's for kids because it's Pokemon, and a machine could make the same claim because of the use of bright colors for all we know.
These guys just don't know what kids consume vs teens, young adults, or even adults just a bit younger than themselves. And now they're wanting to make career ending decisions they're neither equipped or knowledgeable enough to make.
@@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg Yeah, and think about another channel in that genre, The Game Theorists. They cover video games but......um.....there's an excessive amount of child murder.....
No, the issue is that people will abuse children if it makes them profits. That’s the issue.
Think of it this way: there are two city’s right next to each other. Adult vill and Kids vill. Kids vill is all happy and colour full while adult vill is sad and gray. You can either build something boring in adult vill and make money or you can build something colourful but make little money in kids vill. If something two colourful and happy gets built in adults vill, it will be torn down and destroyed. They would destroy it with the thought that kids from Kids vill will come over because of the colourful-ness and then be saddened by the rest of adult vill.
*y e s*
I am 11 and like the 80’s tv’s graphics.
I don't mind coppa, if they allow comments. What even is youtube without comments?
Robo Void dailymotion.
This truly is the darkest timeline we are living in...
You said it bud
Eeveeman56 bruuh wait till 2030 trust me that will be hell
There is a petition against this, though.
here's the link: chng.it/WswP5ryFvn
@@danielhops7646 thanks!
This is why father pucci restarted the universe
I feel like 94% of RUclips is “meant for children” according to coppa
They honesty believe that 100% of it is. The spokesman himself said "here you have a platform made for children" in his own words. It's mainly because RUclips claimed that's the truth.
Doing normal human thing is meant for children according to COPPA and hentai is for kids too now...
@@jelagalam9839 It's not that it is "for kids" it's that according to the law, it could be perceived as being appealing to kids. It's a bad law and should be changed.
Jurassic fan your wrong more like 97.6%
@@silorion9967 I don't know where you got that line, but at around 17:26 of the FTC COPPA press conference Andrew Smith says that RUclips is a general audience platform (and that for general audience platforms or channels "you are only held liable if you have actual knowledge that the content is child-directed")
RUclips does not seem to understand that ‘’Watched by kids’’ and ‘’Meant for kids’’ reaIIy aren´t the same thing.
"This is not a great day for Arlo..."
So it’s a combination of irresponsible parents, government people who are out-of-touch with reality, and a company who never gives a hell about the people who made them the way they are now in the first place. Am I still missing some other suspects?
Other than some irresponsible parents that don't care enough about their children, no, it's spot on! 😔✨
So what you’re saying is 50% of the population consists of children taking care of children, or boomers. Is that correct?
@@brittanynguyen3794 More like "children" who are now in adult bodies who never outgrew their being way-too-oversensitive....
You seem to be the only one mentioning youtube as being a "bad guy" at all in any of this.
I'm honestly completely okay with what's happening here. I think youtube needs to die. It's become a behemoth of censorship and idiocy, and it's about time we see other platforms emerge from its ashes; ones that don't collect information and constantly shove ads in our faces in the first place. RUclips has been shitting all over its content creators and users at least since Google took over anyway.
@@TheRealNintendoKid This. People should really start to migrate to other sites.
"Trix are for kids!"
Coppa: *_enemy spotted_*
Made me laugh
Want rabbit stew?
Coppa when they see a kid that is under 7 years of age: 🤯
Coppa when they see someone that LOOKS like a kid at the age of 12.9 but is actually a 20 year old with a growing disorder: 🤯
Me: *has a blured and censored Mario toy in the background*
FTC: *laughs in COPPA*
“It’s for the children”
-words totally never used to justify horrible dystopian bs
change your profile pic bruh, you'll get sued
Yeah man, no kid of this generation has watched Lazytown. I’m all set.
So what your saying, is that you are discouraging children’s videos to protect kids? Your not just wrong, you’re stupid.
The internet isn't and shouldn't be a place for children. Spend time parenting your kids instead of making us do it for you, Uneducated and lazy parents are to blame here. If you don't want your kid to see "bad" stuff on the internet, don't give them a computer. Problem solved.
"Think of the children" they say. While holding the grenade...
Someone: *uploads video about Pennywise*
FTC: “clowns are for kids. Here is your fine”
FTC = ESTAFA
estafa means swindling
If u set ur setting as an adult content and make a vid about tom and jerry will u get fined?
sam Man yes because that’s for "kids"says coppa
FTC: “You are not a clown, you’re the entire circus”
Pretty much.
Fact: it’s illegal to collect data from children
RUclips: you need to collect data from your audience to know how many are kidd
Is no one going to mention on the thumbnail how the hell did Mario’s head fit through the semi circle
Because coppa thinks Mario or Nintendo related is kid friendly
It’s like an SML reference 💀
"It all started when Don't Hug Me Im Scared was meant for kids"
Or parody animations
Local 58: A children's programme was meant for kids
Hazbin Hotel
Nintendo Switch man when I was a little kid, I loved it. Like a brutal Sesame Street.
Actually there were animations before all of this.
The only people that should be fine is the parents for allowing their kids to be on RUclips WHEN RUclips IS FOR 13+ they shouldn't be punishing the creators.
And if you're not AMerican and don't live in AMerica why would we be subject to US law?
@@ashleyashleym2969 that's a good question too but it could be because you're using a US platform
True, just have a disclaimer of for 13+ and then make RUclips kids require each video that wants to reach that platform be checked by humans. There will be less content but better curated for kids, then main RUclipsrs wouldn't have to worry.
@@ashleyashleym2969 the platform is us territory like in fact all of the internet and outer space. Commit a crime on the internet or in space and you're liable under American law. And America can demand your deportation to America from your homestate. And if it is not China or Russia they are guaranteed to comply.
@@________dQw4w9WgXcQ that is what RUclips did.. It cost them $170 Million Dollars. They said.. This is only for 13+. The FTC doesn't believe them.
Title: Why COPPA and the FTC Are Doomed to Failure
Gives no information in video to support title
Who was the Karen that snitched to the commissioner
When I find them I will have their head
Looks like RUclips regulars are starting large-scale investigations for online snitches
How about parents are held responsible for their kids’ safety?
The Official Andy Saenz parents are so scared of what will happen to their kids and are too lazy to take responsibility... why should content creators take the hit for parents
@@remicore1346 Parents need to to be the ones who regulate what their kids watch not the creators but this is still google's fault
Poke Hunter yeah I understand that its just kinda sad that google takes the information of kids
The Official Andy Saenz kids shouldn’t be on the internet
Blake Deaton yeah.. but even if they are they should mabey be supervised? Because parents are just not responsible
It’s like in the simpsons when Skinner realizes he’s out of touch and says; “No, Seymour- it’s the children that are wrong.”
ftc, with its crazy regulations
content creators are gonna need their medication
when they get hit by this lame regulation
there'll be trouble for them tonight
RUclips!
FTC! I was just- taking data from these minors!
Isometric exercise!
Care to join me?
Now they’re doing this to Sonic.
Here’s what I understand:
Random people made a law and force companies to go by it
They care for the parents responding about the internet, not the people that use it.
They are really vague
They want big companies fined to get a lot of money and not the small companies
They also care for only kids, not the people that are innocent and caught in the crossfire
They hate google.
" You are a clown, kids love clowns! Here's your fine! "
Pennywise: But i am no-
FTC: I DONT REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GODAMN THING!!!!
Duh. Dancing clown? Definitely not creppy! 24k dollars by monday
*EXACTLY*
I guess Pennywise is going to have to delete its channel
content creators: “oh hey coppa you
dropped this”
coppa: “what is it?”
everyone: *your clown license*
WORDS I KEEP HEARING ALL THE TIME:
“RUclips is not for kids”
“This channel is not for kids”
“This video is not for kids”
“Made for kids”
“Not made for kids”
“Copyright”
“Plagiarism”
“We’re creators, not babysitters”
RUclips: *takes data from kids*
FTC: *tries to end RUclips*
Also FTC: *hardcore fails*
Did it fail!? Please tell me it failed!
@@THawkMedia the COPPA act comes into play in a couple days. Doomsday!! :D
@@kaz6976 (pulls out heavy weaponry). I'm a walking apocalypse. Let's go
@@Volare-Via may we all survive
@@THawkMedia May the force be with us
Me: goes to jail rather than pay the fine
Inmate: what you in for
Me: I wrongly marked my RUclips video as adult content
*i used bright colors in my thumbnail and the FTC seemed to forget I swear like a sailor..
*I made my video about war and showing guns but RUclips forgot that war existed
"I-I dont want no trouble"
@and you will know us by the Trail of Dead I don't have money...or a job...or a bank account
@@shailys.k.y1823 which is why the idea of fining people isn't going to work. So many people who have channels aren't making a whole lot of money, so how are they going to pay a fine like that? They can't and won't. It's all dumb.
4:52 "Kids Love Clowns!"
Well that's not entirely true.
*IT By Stephen King intensifies*
Being an under 18 content creator (despite feeling like a 18 year old), I feel like COPPA is stupid because, although they are trying to protect children, they are sacrificing so much that makes RUclips for everyone else.
They made it so vague that everybody can and will get screwed
Yeah, no joke, but they can remove my video because they contain 'vibrant colours'. Thats it!
Yeah vaguely worded laws should be made illegal in itself as vaguely worded laws are the ones that are abused the most in malicious ways. In other words, the Idealogy that vague laws end up causing more harm than good needs to be deeply rooted into our legal system. This is because the best way to make a profit is by doing so immorally behind the facade of a well intention yet purposefully vaguely defined law. So those who profit the most from "legal" fines have a strong incentive to make as many vaguely worded laws as possible to maximize their profits and the only thing to stop them from doing so is a sense of morality which we all know by examining history isn't a strong defense against wrong doing in itself.
This has always been a problem with the human race since the beginning of human civilization and we still haven't conquered the issue and perhaps we never will but at the very least we can certainly still improve in this area greatly.
It's kind of funny but I think they'll need more lawyers. The sheer volume of people liable is insane. If youtube was a good company they would just take the hit here and make sure every account that is age under 13 is provided with all the tracked information(for their parents to view). Instead they announce that everyone is going to be liable when it's their own fault...
Let me be really clear here, creators have no say in who watches their videos. However youtube does, especially when you consider how they are curating recommended feeds.
back to the 1000s
Laws are written vaguely so that they can be enforceable. But that doesn't mean everyone and their dog is getting a fine. The sky isn't falling. Context is everything.
Coppa makes article 13 seem like a garden paradise lol.
Not really, or at least not by much, the article passed but will come in effect only in 2 years from the day of passing. Passed in may so it will happen in may of 2021. The article was also an attack on freedom of speech and more but people made it about memes to help spread the message, which failed, (as in, it spread very little) and then almost no one further explained that it wasn't about memes but more about free speech (for us, it was corporate greed for them as they were being paid by all the big industries for this). They then proceeded to change the name to article 17 to confuse people and it worked cuz no one is talking about it anymore... :/
@@ITBahren nah. Info is vetted by their handlers in Brussels, plus they'd probably just vote again if it didn't go through the 1st time. Or afterwards.
007Raizor rip the internet and youtube
What was Article 13 again?
Trueeeee
Coppa : lets protect kids ... *shuts off miniplayer*
We need to destroy COPPA's office!
I want to call the fbi on them but I don’t know how because it makes you look and fell stupid,but can I lobby them.
This basically means happy tree friends could be marked “For kids”
Wow great job youtube
you do realize someone already made a comment like this and got a lot more likes than you did
@@theextremeprogamer8186 Wow it's almost as if they thought of the same idea!
Redd Family Guy and South Park are also for kids
Just waiting for the FTC to call Mirrai Nikki a show "for kids", what's next after that, freaking Boku No Pico?
I hope Don't Hug Me I'm Scared doesn't get struck by coppa or kids are gonna be scarred
Every website that’s not already “age restricted” is in violation of COPPA. My 5 year old son can ask Siri about the FTC and she’ll take him to FTC.Gov where they will collect his device information, IP address, cookies and anything else required to load the website on his device. I actually called them and asked “who’s allowed to visit FTC.gov?” The representative said “anyone”. That means they are knowingly taking information from children (WITHOUT EXPLICIT PARENTAL CONSENT) who happen to visit their website. Of course, this includes most of the entire internet but my point has been made. Unless you’re website has an age restriction already in place, then, you’re probably gathering ILLEGAL information as stated below in the FTC guidelines....
a persistent identifier that can be used to recognize a user over time and across different sites, including a cookie number, an IP address, a processor or device serial number, or a unique device identifier;
Hehe......That gives me an idea! All of the users on here that have children....TELL THEM TO VISIT THE FTC'S SITE, HAVE IT COLLECT THEIR DATA AND SUE THEM OUT OF EXISTENCE FOR VIOLATING COPPA!
Does the FTC site create cookies, though?
Edit: just visiting creates a persistent cookie: www.ftc.gov/site-information/privacy-policy/internet-cookies
@@grimreads Something to look into....If it does, then we should complain! *Think of the children!*
@@grimreads Here's the answer, *right* from their site: _Some FTC websites use "cookies" to give us information about what pages users visit on our sites. You can configure your computer to delete cookies or to disable them altogether._
So, yes, they do!
RUclipsr: *cries because they don’t even have enough money to buy a peace of gum*
COPPA: *40,000$ F I N E*
UwU thank you for that grammar(spelling) mistake I missed
@@terrybradford6595 piece*
Oh and actually, ftc doesn't fine youtubers specifically $42k. They first look at how much money the youtuber is making and then fine the youtuber the amount they could afford. And from what I've heard, youtubers who don't make money doesn't get fined.
Does that money have to be AdSense income or something similar from RUclips in order to be fined?
@@ABCDEFGH-or2eb It probably doesn't have to be, they only look at your income so they make sure that you wouldn't go homeless if they fined you too much of a big amount you could afford to pay.
Coppa: *exist*
Europe: ah s*it,here we go again.
Man europe is having the worst day
Oh wait i live in europe
All Parents out there, RUclips Kids is a thing.
if it just says RUclips don’t let your kid(s) use it, if it says RUclips Kids, follow the yellow brick road.
*FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT IT*
Exactly so they cant sue, huh?
@@andrewrisser9221 They can sue it's the law, this isn't enforced by RUclips. (This only makes sense if you're talking about the fourth thousand dollar fine)
@@Mrbluesheep-xh6tz oh 😕
i feel like kids these days watch more dantdm than nursery rhymes
The fact that RUclips kids exists makes COPPA more pisstaking
I wonder if they have mind? Cause there's Kids RUclips🙄
Yep
RUclips just had to blab their mouths about all the kids from 2-12 watching RUclips and screwed everything up
COPPA: I can control anything EVERYWHERE!
RUclips: *gulp* good bye everyone...
The guy who started the Area 51 raid thing: now this looks Like a job for me
*"RUclips Kids"*
Me : *wHaT's tHe pOiNt oF hAvInG yOuTuBe KiDs wHeN ThE gOvErMeNt mAdE yOuTuBe lIkE cHiLd-iSh"*
Me : *mY lIfE iS rUiNeD- I sHaLl qUiT-*
Yes
The FTC needs someone in their mid twenties, hell, early 30s as commissioner so they actually have an understanding of internet culture.
Not likely to happen until the last boomer has died of old age.
The older groups of civilians and politicians like to think they do everything, but in reality they are causing problems for us younger groups of people. The problems they create are left for us to fix. Gen Z and any generation after us seem to be our last hope or at least its what it feels like.
I'll do it. Hell I live in the real world and am perfectly capable for the job.
If you followed their hearing, it's clear that the FCC fully understands what the internet is. This is a 20- year old law that we've all known was in place for 20 years.
@@ScooterinAB I have my doubts. They had NO idea in the difference between targeted ads and general ads
Inmate: *I murdered someone,you?*
Me: *Oh,i drew pikachu*
Pumpkin Spice 멜로디 카르마 with ur sailor moon profile picture everything is ok
@@luma222 Sailor Moon is Queen
Pumpkin Spice 멜로디 카르마 hell yeah!
@@luma222 👑💅
It’s 2022, and coppa is sadly still alive and kicking 😭
Why is the FTC doing this? Oh, I know *MONEY, MONENEOEMEOEMONEMEOEMEONEENEEENEMEIEEMONE*
COPPA: *exists*
The whole internet: "so you have choosen death"
Shouldn't it be the other way around?
@@rebbudesu5088 yup
@@rebbudesu5088 Nope.
Rebby Trinity well the Internet is dangerous..
@@rebbudesu5088 If you mess with the Internet, you should expect your death really soon
#COPPAandFTCwereamistake
COPPA - Don't "collect" data of children, CREATORS - incapable of collecting data. Is there a disconnect here??
I like to think that it would only apply to content creators that are monetized, because the targeted ads are what they're trying to stop, so I doubt they would be able to fine someone who makes no money off of the videos
Whether RUclips creators constitute as website controllers under COPPA is probably the question everyone should be asking but nobody is
That was RUclips's choice.
They could have just stopped running a system that collects the data of under 13s and everything would be back to normal.
Instead they chose to throw us under the bus.
If this is going to backfire on anyone it should backfire on RUclips.
A misunderstanding ....which may or may-not have fully grasped ...yet. RUclips is forcing the reclassification of a channel or individual video because they don't want to be financially penalized. Even though the FTC stated creators can be fined, RUclips will also be fined in addition to the creator. So they reclassify the video in order to prevent themselves from paying a the penalty. RUclips doesn't care if the creator is penalized by the FTC, RUclips only cares if they may be penalized and will adjust content accordingly. RUclips is now fundamentally changed! Creators will need to find other venues (video hosting sites) to attempt something similar to the golden days of RUclips. RUclips deliberately violated the law due to greed and now everyone must deal with the consequences.
Hmmm. I think we found a loop hole big enough to sue the FTC and get our money back, thank you!
It's stuff like this is why I wish the KND was real.
What gets me pissed off is that RUclips are saying that this law affects us REGARDLESS OF LOCATION. So other countries’ laws are ignored? That’s illegal
I hate this planet
Nothing to See Here The FTC are like “Screw other countries only MURICA laws matter!” Bruh China for example has much different laws than we do
@@lunathenightwolf1276 - I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
@@lunathenightwolf1276 then go live on mars
RUclips: Am I at fault?
RUclips: No it is the creators who are the problem.
The Great Red Dragon 87 RUclips isn’t the one at fault. It’s the FTC that is at fault. To be able to use a RUclips account you are supposed to be 13 or older.
RUclips is actually doing their best to help creators but also don’t want to spend another $170 million
@@tristanmoss254 you can litterly just create ur account as 13 or older
Not that hard to do
@@k.schuffs4657 Doesn't mean it's RUclips's problem.
BT 7275 RUclips can’t keep you from lying. But then the children are the ones who are making the mistake not the website they use
"You owe us $40,000 for being too cute" COPPA in a nutshell.
Never have I been so happy to be ugly
I guess im doomed for having cute videos
Well it's easy money for them ^^
So I have to mutilate myself with Placanta, Blood Bag, Growth Hormones, The Wiz, Cone Head, Burning Bush and Mom's Wig so I don't cost people $42K?
“I’m not paying that $40,000, thanks very much!” Me in a nutshell
COPPA: No animated char-
Disney: Hippity hoppity your going onto the courts’s property
Alan Ngo Disney and adult swim straight bashing coppa to a coma
@@Crygear and Nintendo
"i killed thirteen people what about you"
"i had a mountain dew in my video"