It seems to me the better approach, I feel sick of being insta-nuked in the first 3 nanoseconds of being spotted in tier 8 to 10 games, lots of derpy fun tanks in tier 4 -6 to play with.
A good way to go for sure, especially if you have a shameful number of premium tanks.. the only time i play my tech tree tanks is for the daily multiplier. I got super lucky yesterday in wotb- we got a free tier 3 collector tank vut it sells for 1,200 gold. I did that and had just enough gold for a crate, which immediatly dropped a snowglobe that gave me the centurion 5/1. Hell yeah lol
I'll point what makes life hardest for FTP players: the inability to get a 100% crew! Like WG let me pay 100k or even 200k credits per crew member just to see what the tank can do, without playing 50 games with boosters just to get the tank to do WHAT IT SHOULD DO FROM THE START!
@ghrutz ''wargaming's exploitation'' and ''dogshit game'' bro, do u play the game? 'cause if it' s the case, you should stop playing if you really think that 'cause u're hurting urself xD
@ghrutz tell that to my 20 unrecruited ppl in my garage. You got 3 for last 2 battle passes each. You got 4 or so from the WT event iirc and you can get at least 6-8 easy ones from personal campaign. Even if you are not that great you can get a few twice a year from normal campaign plus the extra ones you can get from other events.
I had the same experience: Hitting 30% winratio in a tank while grinding it is so frustrating - especially at T8 where you have to fight overpowered premium tanks - and I‘m by no means a bad player, hitting at least 2500 WN8 on average once the tank isn‘t stock anymore - but the grind there is painful with bad winratio and bad WN8
Not even OP premium tanks. Facing higher tier vehicles when stock is like being a tier lower than you are. Expecially in heavies where they're basically glorified slow medium from a tier below.
@@tankerbruja Which is exactly what WG want from the experience :) Grinding is awful, so skip it by spending money! It never used to be quite this bad, but I think the preponderance of OP premium tanks, bond equipment and gold spam now makes grinding out a line a lot harder than it used to be 5 or 6 years ago. A stock tier 8 tank for a free to player is at a huge disadvantage when its matched up against the rediculous premiums that WG release.
its role is more of a medium than a heavy still, just wargaming wants to makes things easier for new players, after all the the t54e1 is built from the chassis of the m48 patton
The game itself in its entirety is extremely Anti-F2P friendly since WG mainly consider the paying part of the community which are the minority but disregard the majority of players who are F2P who just pad the player count. The paid battlepass and Pay to win premium tanks are some of the blatant disgusting reminders of how P2W the game is and shows how divided the player base is. The benefits you get from the paid battlepass alone gives you a MAJOR advantage over the F2P player with all those additional bounty equipment, training manuals, extra bonds, etc. Yeah sure it's a "skill based" game at the end of the day but the argument doesn't really hold much weight when you see the "better players" having all the good equipment (bounty/bond - Sure some F2P players have this but that's rare), premium time and consumables, powerful premium tanks to give them that edge over others. Those who still actively defend the game for what it is needs a reality check.
It's called common sense, you want free you get the bottom of the barrel as you should. Half the dolts playing for free are skunk smelling pot heads living in moms cellar who for sure can afford premium time or something so yeah they shouldn't be rewarded. I will say the prices they charge for non real pixelated crap is insane, which really scares most people away from investing money into a game they like. WG pretty much cuts off their own legs due Stupidity on a Galactic scale daily.
To be fair, I've played the game casually for five years, mostly having played or at least *tried to* play competitively for the first year or so, and then realizing it really isn't worth my time/effort that i have so little of, even now. It has been really fun watching all the content you put out however, and at certain times I feel like playing that way myself, but then again, I'm quite busy already trying to study and handle life at the same time. I've recently started playing WoT Blitz, and tbh, I like the Tier 10 there better than here, balancing and what not. But what Blitz fails to give me are some of those nostalgic moments that I first had back in 2016, sitting in the comforts of my home and platooning with my friends and so on. You have time and again, made me come back to the game, and recently, I've had some fun by being able to actually pay and buy premium tanks, and I must say thank you for bringing me back, time and again to play this game, which I despise and adore at the same time :D
I played from 2014-2016 on WoT PC till I didn't have a PC then started playing Blitz in December 2017 and played ever since but I've gotta say Blitz is 100% worse then PC ever since update 5.5 and all these literal pay to win tanks
Same boat as you! Got back into playing through him and been on Blitz. Not as fun as console I once was on with friends, but brings me back to a simpler time. I just got my first tier 9.
Well i have played blitz for 7 years and also a litle wotpc but i think blitz for me is much more fun for example gravity mode uprising hunger mad games and also now bos mode that is why i probably like more blitz than wotpc also im in minotory but i think blitz is beter than pc probably just because it is a much faster gameplay and more interesting to play.
After playing on and off for 10 years, I’ve finally gotten my first tier 10 tank yesterday. I’ve paid some money, but really only for gold to convert experience to free XP and occasional premium time. I’ve played 16.5k games in total
Congrats to this elongated breathe... Playing since spring '18 with 17k battles, bought my 1st X (T-62A) this summer, crew is 3 1/2 skilled.....still nothing keeps a team from throwing any task as each individual might only go for their goals; like dailies, personal missions, marathons- You name it. There's sure more than one way to get some fun out of this game, GG well played!
I have 7 in about 26k game i was 10 when i was playing in the beginning so my stats are bad, playing as an adult now i understand the game im decent, and got so many tier 10s🤷🏼
Okay, one things I would critizise: Even a free-to-play player should always be able to mount an automatic fire extinguisher. You don't really *need* it that often, and I would wager that running automatic fire extinguishers actually SAVES you money in the long run. You get them for free reasonably often, your fire chance is reduced by 10% anyway & no human reflex is faster. The result: Either lowering your repair costs and/or keeping you in the fight longer, allowing you to earn more money & XP. So, I will NOT accept the price difference as a reason to not run it. Other than that, you're right, and it's true for the Large Repair Kits and Med Kits.
yeah I have like 500 of them in my garage, keeping them because what if WG stops giving them away ? I will never run out of them, even though I sometimes sell 50 for quick bucks (well sometimes.. in black market occasion only ! Usually I'm stacked with credits, currently approaching 45M. Btw over the years I may have spent around 150€ on WoT, so I don't know if I'm really p2w or f2P, I'd say I'm between the two at least)
Sell them and buy premium consumables, they will give you far more advantage than any fire extinguisher. You'll be able to engage tanks faster, get follow on shots faster and you'll be detected later. Fire extinguishers are there so it's not too obvious that you don't have an empty slot and get salty that you are at a huge disadvantage. Sell the extinguishers when they are at full price, buy consumables when they are 50% off. You get 1 for 1 swap of something useless for something that makes you competitive.
@@lucidnonsense942 If you really think they're useless, you have NEVER played Soviet tanks. Or are at a level at which point your crew has good firefighting skills. And you are still missing the point... rations are used up after a battle. Large fire extinguishers are not, unless triggered. Meaning that they are far more cost effective, given that your average player isn't good enough to get the full use out of rations anyway.
Considering how rare it is to get put on fire. (ammo rack being the least normal thing to go boom) Using the normal fire extinguisher is good enough. Really rebind one of the slots to F key and at worst you lose 300damage, that is if you have any reflexes and game sense to notice the fire as you get hit.. So used to hitting F when I notice I'm on fire. Really 10 000 credits is 7 500 wasted to save 200hp. That is RNG at tie 9-10. You get hit for 1100damage or 800. The fire damage is nothing when being F2P. The 10% advantage the enemy has is so much higher then a random ones in a while fire... F2P players should stay away from tier 10 as much as possible. And make sure to focus on tanks with good standard pen. And take gold rounds on tanks that it makes sense to use them. (330MM heat at tier 8 is really nice to have) So dam used to dab the 5 key to repair my tracks. 5 and 2 combo to repair my ammo rack. But F (used in many games) at worst adds 1 or 3 ticks of extra damage vs "automatic" crap costing 10 000 credits. That is like 4 missed shots! The "RNG" tax is high enough. I rather get a return on 3 or so shots then not having to press F ones every few games.
Yes, but you know what I did? I did not research any vehicle until I got something like 400k free exp. And then I use that exp to unlock the most important parts of the vehicle. And so on...
Really appreciated your take on f2p aspects of the game. I have spent money to get a premium tank for credit farming but f2p outside of that. I agree with some others in the comments about crew training being very difficult as f2p. Sure you can have 1 or so good crews per country from crew books but it is really tough outside of that.
really happy that your rant included many points i share as a f2p player , personally im willingly to face the less credit gain, xp gain and normie consumables disadvantage and let my skill cover what's lacking but what fundamentally affects me is grinding tech trees that turn out disappointed and i can't reinvest all the time and effort I put in
This exactly. One of the things war thunder does well is how past vehicles dont need to be bought again, so if you dont like a new tank in a line you can always go back and earn XP on the tank you liked that goes to the one you now want.
I remember being excited for buying the E100. Even with turbocharger, on Glacier I can't get out of base because a VZ.55 is gonna already be on the ridge spamming HEAT at my turret. I bounce 80% of standard shells and I get killed by gold shells almost everytime I die
i saw qb's old scout maus video. it looked pretty awesome, so i grinded my way up the line, from tier 5 to tier 8 (spent all of my free xp getting through the tiger p. that was my first and last free xp ever spent). then i realised that the impenetrable german armour couldn't stand up to gold. i stopped playing shortly.
@Liopio the Vz 55 has apcr as Gold rounds as far as I know and also one of the lowest gold pens with something like 310 so your e100 turret should be alright
@@marionell1514 yeah, APCR, but my E100 turret is 270mm or something like that, so if I want to aim at him he can easily poke out and hit my flat cheeks and I can't hit anything on his turret
i like you , your a normal down to earth lad, as a chieftain and mk 1 challenger person, i am always amused with tank games, nothing like reality, but i enjoy your talk about battles, i am old now but your knowledge is refreshing, i play blitz, i think i now can not keep up with all this tech stuff , gold and the like, but ill keep trying on blitz you never know i might win a game .
@@cherrypicker3063 oh wow ! today known as Kings Royal Hussars after the amalgamation ! its a small world. i was KRH myself shortly before i retraded , still regret not staying KRH to this day :) amazing regiment with a HUGE history. im out now , did 12yr and left. Nice to see another tanker playing tanks haha
Found your channel yesterday and never played the game, been going through the videos and i'd say this is a perfect topic to cover for people like me who got interested in the game through your channel. I'm lucky this is the video you decided to post right now.
Around 2014 I thought I would play this game for the rest of my life, until WG decided that if you want to have fun you have to pay, this fall I will uninstall the game and I have no plans to install it again
They really need to make this game more viable for free players, I played a while ago but convincing my friends to play the game was so hard, most of the reason for this was the absolute god awful grind for people who just want to play for free. This game is ridiculously pay to win and it’s why me and many others have given up with it because it has just been getting worse and worse…
People should stop saying p2w for wot xD, if someone is a shithole on the game, spending nothing or 1000€ per month on wot won't change anything and clearly won't make him pro or just better but it's clearly a ''pay-to-make-it-fast'' game. When i land against bad or average players with premium tanks, i still clap their ass 'cause even if they put money on the game (as i do i won't lie), i still beat them
@@jomix7 a p2w game is a game where you win more games by paying (by buying things that make you unstoppable or almost for example), that's the definition, wot would be a p2w if you would got a better win ratio by simply giving money to wg. What you're talking about is a pay-to-fast feature where you get things faster when you put some money in it but it isn't a pay-to-win feature at all because it doesn't make you win more games, it doesn't make sense to say that
I agree, the game is unfriendly to new players, especially if playing f2p. The game provides material advantages to established and paying players. New players also lack game and map knowledge, which is also important.
I’ve been playing for 8 years now and finally made it to my first tier 10, the Obj. 277. I’m happy that I finally made it but it took so long to make it.
The best tank for mere mortals is the one in which you have the best crew and as of now all the field mods unlocked. British tier 8 and 9 med Centurions are fenomenal because they have 3 or 4 crew skill. I can afford food but my crews don't have firefighing so i can burn to death. Also getting the view range to 445 without coated optics was impossible for me without playing the tank for 400-500 battles. The best tank is the one with the best crew! Edit: It would be best to have everithing unlocked when you buy a tank, including skilled crew, equipment, and consumables. Then everyone can be on the level playing field and could setup the tank in a way they see fit.
I loved WOT when it came out and before it was messed up so bad. I was ok at the game. It seems like if you are a casual player you have little chance of moving forward in the tech tree. I might play a couple times a week or so. Just don't have the time for constant play. I refuse to pay to win on games. With that It seems like I get tired of games quickly when there is no progression. Free To Play is just not worth it anymore for the time required to get anywhere.
After 4 years playing for free. Today, I decide to buy my first premium tank 703. And in my first 18 games, well... HOHOHO... Merry Christmas to myself.
T54E1 when it was a medium and with the old top gun was just spamming gold rounds left right and center just to even be competitive back then. After I got the T57 Heavy, I just sold the E1 because it was just not viable to play without a decent chunk of your ammo reserve being gold ammo. I think ever since it got change into a HT, they did change the gun's penetration value of both base and gold ammo which is a great change. Before this, I would never recommend anyone keeping the tank with its old top gun because it's a pain in the ass to even play it.
I've been playing for 7 years started when 13 and have been f2p until this year (got adult money now lol) and the biggest challenge for me was credit income. Even for a decent player with 2800wn8 credits were hard to come by so that actually pushed me to become a light tank main and my only tier 10 being the obj140 (since i did very well in it almost every game = break even on credits). Regarding food/equipment I still don't think they're essential unless ur in a competitive match, going for Moes or your in a borrasque(I can't play that without food).
@@test_nametest_surname1794 I can't deal with the borats traverse speed it actually feels like I'm in some huge ship turning in WoWs when I compare it to my t54ltwt or obj 140 lol. More power to you if you can tolerate that
@Daeki Ne I'd say the French amx Lt line and the Soviet Lt lines are the place to be for starters. The Soviet one in particular might be more forgiving of mistakes since they do have a bit of armor meaning you can get lucky bounces while the amx would definitely suit the hit and run style of Lts due to the autoloaders. In terms of advice I don't really know what to say besides remember u have a gun so use it when you can, play to your strengths (mobility n camo), and try to conserve HP until the end game. Honestly most of it is game knowledge so you'll get the hang of it the more you play. If you're looking for a lowerish tier Lt to try out first I'd maybe suggest the t71 da it's quite frankly pretty darn epic and fun. Cheers:)
remember this line being absolute pain in the ass to keep any kind of expierienced crew while progressing thrue.... it was LT's up to T7, then 2 MED's and a HT at T10..... any retraining costed so much exp for someone who doesn't buy gold....
I'm so grateful that you said something about the people that are bombing around in their op tanks thinking that they are king shit and they most likely aren't. I have lost track of the times that I received a message from someone after they killed me in the game saying "get gud scrub" yet they are in said op tank. A few times I was able to 1 v 1 the people that sent a message like that and crushed them. I'm not a unicum so it felt so good to wipe their faces in the dirt when they were the ones that messaged me with their toxic attitude.
Your point about the absurdity of not being able to research field mods before grinding the next tank is so on point As a returning old player, it makes no sense to me that the biggest grind I do on the tank I need to do it at it's 'stock field mod' state. Like why...? What's the reasoning for that When you finally unlock the field mods, there is no reason to play the tank unless you really really want to play the tank.
I'm paying player, but i still don't get bounty equipment, just because, I play only few months during winter and even I feel that I can't be competitive. I feel that the more game progresses the more wide gap there is between playerbase.
Just to talk on the effectiveness of the T54E1. I find that when I play mine the armor just doesnt exist. When I first started playing about 8 years ago I remember people saying how good the turret armor is on the vehicle but now it just feels like it has none. I will constantly get people going through the turret front with no problem. Not even using gold rounds (though some of them do). It feels like an even larger clunkier version of the Chi-Ri. Although that burst potential is truly something special.
I have played the game on an off for 7 years. The biggest issue with WoT is their business model. At least in NA, people spend lots of money on f2p games, but that is spent on cosmetics mostly. WoT expects you to spend outrages amounts of money to even stay competitive. While most MMOs have a monthly cost, you get the full game and can only purchase cosmetics. Most of the games played in WoT are vs premium vehicles that are better than most in game line tanks. Those premium tanks aren’t available by playing the game, and their prices are that of full priced games. I’m mostly talking to the wind here, but if the game had a better business model, it would have had the ability to compete vs CoD and or Battlefield on player numbers.
Though I don't play much anymore I personally think of the field mods as 'end game content' so to speak. Something for you to do once you've hit max level to improve your equipment
around 3:50 you described my life as a ftp tanker. I watched the Japanese heavies dominate while I struggled up the tech tree. by the time I got the type 5 it was nerfed into oblivion. Similarly, the obj 268v4 line (except that tank is still relevant. The FOMO pressure to spend $ is strong with this game
I used to enjoy the game by the time the video tutorials were made by Wargaming for T32 vs Tiger and IS-3 (maybe 2013?). Each had strong points and weak points and you had to make the best of it. That was what I enjoyed about the game. Sure one would use occasionally a premium round in special situations. Now there are so many perks to consider and buy. All kind of autoloaders roam the battlefield - some have a clip, some have double shots, some have a hybrid loading mechanism. Once in a while a new OP line is introduced. After the armor buff is seems that it is a prem rounds frenzy. Even you feature games of players having good games while shooting mostly premium rounds. "Oh, it's an armored tank, I will switch to gold to be competitive". I used to enjoy taking advantage of game mechanics (searching for weak spots, angling the tank, wiggling the hull) and not game economy.
I love the T54E1, both when it was a medium and now. I have a 60% w/r with over 1500 battles, and it was my first 3 marked tank. I'm always drawn to underdogs, but this is maybe the most powerful and capable underdog in the game.
I played 2013-16 as a pay to win player. I stopped paying, and mostly playing till a few weeks ago. I reinstalled WoT and realized how uncompetitive my old tanks are. It was great seeing you feature the T54E1. It was one of my favorites back in the day. I'm really not sure I want to invest anything more into this game, so it was interesting seeing the plays for free prospective in this video. Thanks QB.
7,7k games, playing for 9 years on-off and I recently used 5 free premium days to fully grind through the t6 and t7 Swedish ikvs and fully equip the Udes. Man, this tank is a fun-beast compared to all the other non-meta tanks I’ve been grinding for over years just to get to tier 8 or 9 at max. (Still not owning any t10 tank but that’s due to the variety I am playing). But something like a stock-centurion 7/1 is just cruel to grind for free… 29% winrate in the last 60 games even tho I am a 52% player.. Well, I think the p2w aspect is why I mostly prefer other games over wot and only come back every once in a while.
Man, I just unlocked the top gun on the IKV 90 B and... it’s just such a nothing tank lol. Nothing about it is exciting. That’s the worst part about that line until the UDES; they’re just *ok* at everything. Except armor, none of that lol. Too many tanks in the game are just boring grinds.
I agree, my grind on cent 7/1 was painful and now I'm trying to grind in ST-I but because of stock syndrome I'm not able to do much and have to rely on my team..
I am not a regular player and I spend a set amount on the game from time to time. Mostly I buy gold, but sometimes I will buy a premium account for something like 14 days. I have to say that I have learned a lot from your channel over the years, so please keep it going! Your videos about the consumables have been of immense help, especially what to use with what to get that edge! I have never bought a single premium consumable such as fire extinguishers. Those I have all won via the game when WG have some sort of event. The non-premium consumables I buy when they are on special, but then I buy like a 100 of them at a time! Also, a tip from your channel I believe! Yes, the premium tanks are a pain, especially when you shoot gold at them, and you cannot even damage them! Some of them is a nightmare to fight against; completely overpowered, but if you work with your team and just spot and track them, then someone on your team who has a more powerful tank can hopefully kill the nightmare! WOT's are probably play to win and unfair, but that is life; GET USED TO IT!
as a F2P i appreciate your content take on the game. after 3 yrs grinding the line , I'm looking forward to getting the Leo1 this xmas, after i grind the silver of course, remember when differed gratification was a thing?
I'm a completely free to play player with just over 1k games and a 57% wr. I got a t8 premium for bonds and usually only play on tech trees that are top of the tree as i don't have much time to play wot. Progression is slow but it is possible. One thing I learnt is to never miss out on a free premium (the valiant got me 3 top guns and a 78% wr.) They also save you loads of time grinding credits.
Hey QB…thanks for vids. I believe your thoughts on field mods or researching up would help. I think the problem is helping lower winrate and new players. We want to get people to join and stay playing. I think one the answer is limiting gold rounds based on tier matching and skill(win rate). The other way frequently discussed is just limit damage, but then lower tier match tanks have an even greater disadvantage. Tier 6 tanks will really struggle if trying to kill a defender with lower damage. So, I’d keep current mechanics and let computer calculate and display. You could round up for clip tanks, but autoloaders would not get the rounding. Player just selects how many HE rounds and computer calcs and displays. Then the allowable amount is modified based on win rate (to help lower players) and maybe even credit mod for lower win rate players to also help. Example same tier (top tier) base is 30% gold rounds (just as with any stat computer will calculate and display options, you could choose no gold rounds). One tier down max 50% gold rounds and 2 tiers down 75% gold. Then each of these is modified by win rate. For each point over 50% you loose 2.5% and for every point under 50% you gain 5% rounds. You can set lower limits. So experience player 53% at tier 10 will start 30%, but loose 7.5% to a base of lower limit 25%. A player at 47% winrate in same tier ten tank would get 30% base + 15%=45% allowable gold. So better players need to use more skill and less gold. Throw wargaming a bone, premium tanks or monthly accounts get 2.5% bonus, and maybe even loader skill at 2.5%. Just limit “skilled” players from just spamming gold and give players who are less skilled a chance. We need people to stay and play…..Thx from NA
I've been play 4 free for 6 years... took 3 years off, then picked it up again during "the cough" I feel like Bantha Fodder! I also go broke playing tier 10. For years I found watching your content more interesting than actually playing the game!
Hi, i love your content, i have been playing mostly free to play for 8 years (actualy around 18k battes), i have to admit what have you said in your video. Also there is another tricky thing, if you are in clan to have some bonuses from building, then you have to usualy play clan battles (dont know exactly how its called havent been in clan for years) and these battles are very expansive. But one of the biggest rewards for me is, when i kill Pay2win player in battle without scratch, just simply being smarter, its soo satisfying. Thank you for your videos.
i played this game in 2011,2013, 2017 and this year (4 out off 10). as a FTP i want to add other big issues. first off all a FTP have a limited space in garage. that means you have to constantly sale small tier tanks to make space for the higher ones. and when you get close for that Tier X you wanted so mutch, you realise that you need the small tiers that you sell to make some coins to actualy have a chance to buy one. and this is the part were the developers have their fun with FTP, becouse afther you grind hard your way , they nurff so bad that tier X that you went for untill they forces you to press the uninstall button :) it happened to me with E100 & IS7.
after 9 years in the game as a free player I can say that the worst thing about being a free player is the constant loss of credit at higher tiers. its just so frustrating. I hope WG fix that someday
Yeah as a free to play player for me I switched to blitz cause i just don't have the insane amount of time to out into a game like you need in wot PC you have to grind A LOT to get the advantages and crew skills and equipment to be competitive compared to blitz it's so much easier and cheaper as well if you do wanna spend a buck or 2 every now and again the WOT PC has been my child hood I've always loved it but it just requires so much more time even with the longer battles I decided to switch to blitz where I have several tier 10s and tier 9s but I'll always love watching other people play it and your content QB still like to keep track and learning more about what's happening in the game
To be honest I agree with QB, for example I started grinding the object 430U a few years back when it was the best medium tank, in the meantime you got italian auto-reloaders, the object 140 got better... and now I don't even play it. Also It took me years of grinding to get to tanks that I actually enjoy the play-style, that's my biggest pet peeve with world of tanks. And that is that most lower tech tree tanks either play nothing like the higher tier ones and therefore you can't even know if you like the playstyle until you invested tens or hundreds of hours into grinding or are just downright a masochistic experience to sit through. And even if you get to that point where you get that good tank, you still need a lot of time and hundreds of thousands of experience just to get that top gun, or tracks or something else which actually makes the tank special... (you know what I mean, a tier IX tank with a stock tier 6 or tier 5 gun with 170 pen or less...). I have tanks that I detest now and feel like they are crap not necessarily because they truly are but mostly because I had to play them for a long time to progress and the stock grind was extremely punishing. I feel like this is somewhat patched with new tech tree tanks (for example the double barrel tanks weren't that bad) but the higher russian mediums, or british TD's, heavy tanks... And worst still, most of the stock guns are only viable if you load only gold rounds (more expensive ones) and if you don't you can't pen, which means you can't kill your opponent, which means you die early, which means you loose silver on repairs and don't get any XP bc you didn't live long enough to make an impact which ultimately leads to having a negative economy and negative win rate which then forces you to play your premium tanks, but wait, you don't have premium tanks, but wait, you can buy premium tanks for bonds, but wait, you can only get bonds on tier X, which you need to grind, but you need credits... All in all it's a very well oiled machine, and even though I commend QB for playing his free to play account, I still think that the biggest advantage he has is the opportunity to try out any tank he wants and then decide on his limited f2p if it's worth it or not. Wargaming, if you can put trial periods on premium tanks, put trial periods on tech tree tanks, you have the vs AI maps, use them, you don't have to offer every tank there is, give players a chance to try the most iconic top tree tanks, take them for a spin, so they can see if they are actually worth grinding and suffering for...
I mean they occasionally do this with 'rentals', though this is very sporadic and of course they're always premiums, so the insight you get from playing them for 20 battles or whatever is limited. Obviously WG's intention with the rentals is to entice u to buy; maybe they've finally given up on me as it's 4 years straight F2P.
to me the most frustrating part is the credits, its so hard and obnoxious to have to sell your tanks just to buy a higher tier one, not to mention ammo and equipment
I've been playing the game for 9 years (with a 3 yr break in the middle) and last week was the first time I ever spent money on the game. I must also mention that I received a gift of some gold from a clanmate when I had been playing for about a year. I used it with extreme frugality and extremely gradually (pretty sure I still haven't spent all of it) to buy extra garage/barracks slots when on sale and a small collection of tier 3/5 premium tanks for crew training. It wasn't until this fall that I was able to purchase my first two tier 8 premium tanks using bonds. I've done the grinds to earn additional tier 5/6 premium tanks for free (TOG). As a (mostly) ftp player I have just accepted that I need to use good tactics/positioning in order to damage some vehicles without using gold rounds. I try to make sure I use what resources I have wisely.
Try playing with a sub 100% crew. I haven't played for years, but that was painful. I don't think I ever even got more than one skill on a crew, let alone three or more. The game has become a battle of the titans, the veterans get better and better while the newcomers and low spenders are left in the dust
Yeah the system which takes thousands if not tens of thousands of battles to "max out" is quite bad for the long run. Good thing WG offers crew books so you can get a 4 skill crew quite easily without having to play for thousands of games. After you get the essential skills/perks the rest don't really matter and become marginal.
The lack of credits is 100% real for F2P, been on and off for 7 yrs, still can't afford a T10. Running 3 (almost 4) T9s: Tortoise, Conway, Standard B (still stock) and Obj 257 (had it researched for a while, can't afford it). Saving free XP used to be my biggest concern when I was only getting
That's why now I only play from time to time when we get some kind of bonuses. I don't have the patience anymore to mindlessly grind something which takes forever, unless you buy "time savers" from WG.
This is why I quit this game over half a decade ago. The grind was so bad even with someone who paid money for gold. Everything is SO expensive if you don't want to hate yourself from grinding a crap tank (before fully upgrading it). Using a tier 7-8 gun in a tier 9 tank is not fun. That being said, thanks for making videos so enjoyable to watch as I can still watch them after all these years of not playing.
A week ago, I researched and bought my first tier 9 tank. Today, I play it with full equipment, 3+ skilled crew. And I'm a free-to-play newbie. How do I do that? Well here's the story. My first tier 6 tank was the AT8, and I just loved the combination of crazy armor and a good gun. I went up the tech tree and found the Tortoise, learned how good it was, and started: A. grinding in the AT15 (not nice) B.saving up special crew for it C. Bought equipment at half-price for it D. Made 6 blueprints out of the British blueprints that I got for getting Festive Atmosphere level 5 . There was a snitch with my plan, though, which was that I couldn't get the top gun instantly. Still, when I got it, I broke my dmg record and my dmg blocked record.
I don't know if I'm the only one, but I mainly play german heavies yeah, and the only heavy tank I use the fire extinguisher is Obj. 777 version II, all other heavies I use large repair kit (just for the bonus speed to repair, and if I really really need I use it), small medkit and small repair kit, it works and I very rarely get a fire anyway so I consider it more than worth it
I agree on a different way. I play part time a couple hours here and there. I grind to earn tier 8 tanks and loose points just to play. I get hit a few times hit some tanks and even destroy some at times. Now I do have a few Premium tanks and enjoy them as well, but when I play my KV4 and other tier 8 thanks and survive I loose credits or points. In order to regain my credits I have to play a premium tanks in a half ass manor get destroyed and score more credits to make up the points from the regular tanks. I like to play SPG because its less stressful knowing I will get destroyed and not see it coming. The only thing I hate or dislike is the amount of time to reload. I think I have a couple that it takes 36 seconds to reload. Thanks for listening.
I guess I still have the mentality of the old days. I get that grinding sucks, but it always has. However, they've added so many things to help you grind. More events that have x5 exp, exp boosters, and on track missions. It used to be brutal. I was looking back at my early days of playing and realized it would take over 100 games to get out of a tier 6 (granted I probably sucked back then). Now it takes 20-30 without premium. I still think that this game has gone too far with the premiums, but you can streamline your grinding to make it not too horrible. Completely agree that it's stupid you have to elite the tank first before field mods, though.
I love your f2p-videos when you show us the p2w mechanics as I m a f2p-player myself without any gold-round so far for about 7 years. if you talk about the p2w-mechanics or mechanics which try to lure you into spending it helps to detect them and makes it easier to not spend anything. thanks qb
I have a great example of why people think the game is out to get them sometimes. Today I was in my Centurion 7/1 on Himmelsdorf, I was top tier. I had a 54% WR in the Cent up until two days ago when I got 14 losses in a row. 52% now, and I'm completely F2P. Anyway, literally every shot I fired either missed or bounced. I fired 8 shots, had 1 bounce, and 7 misses. All from close range. I witnessed other tanks on my team shoot at enemy tanks point-blank and somehow miss them. T30 fired at an EBR that his barrel was touching for 0 damage. We lost 3-15. You can't tell me that the game does not rig the results in favor of some teams winning. I've been on the other side of these rigged battles, and it's like I can't miss.
I've spent really lot's of money on a premium account, premium tanks, and bounty equipment to have some advantage (or maybe sometimes to not have disadvantage) but mostly to shorten the time of getting tier 10 tanks. Now looking back - I could spend less money and do not buy so many premium tanks, but on the other hand - this game gave me so much time (and sometimes a lot of frustration ;-)). I still play it and still have fun.
I grinded almost a 100 hours in one week to get an IS-3. Did that suck yes a lot, I even quit the game shortly after that. Player base was way worse 7 years ago so my team kept getting swiped away so fast it wasnt even fun anymore. Just got back in the game last week and boy is it way more fun now even when you play without paying anything.
Hello QB! First of all I wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Second of all, would you try the iyouxin style IS-7 build. It looks so much fun?
The only thing that is available to a f2p player and does give you an advantage is the automatic fire extinguisher. The credits and XP are also just brutal. Example, I play a game in my tier X strv 103-0 and i get 2500 dmg or so and I stay alive but left on 300hp or so, also it's a win, that game costs me like 10k credits or so when in reality a won game where you did some damage should never ever be burning your credits. It's just insane
The only thing I don’t like tbh that’s a premium advantage, is the premium ammo. For example, if you have a tank that’s known for having good frontal armor or good turret armor and then someone who normally wouldn’t be able to penetrate you from that angle and it’s the only thing keeping you alive. Just loads some premium ammo and just destroys you and defeats the whole purpose of your tank
Ultimate freeloader tip: Install World of warplanes and play every day 1 battle (or AFK 3 battles till the battle ends, who cares about player experience in WoWp). That will finish daily mission, if you complete all 7 in the week you get chest. Chest may drop free experience (valid for WoT), gold (valid for WoT) and wargaming premium (it is not as good as WoT premium, but still gives you +50% experience and credits and is better than nothing). After a year or two you will have enough gold just to buy one t8 premium for gold and enough free experience to skip the stock on the entire line for almost nothing
@@fickleborn5314 true, but that's kinda the point of being free to play - you can either avoid paying or suffering. And to be honest, afking 3 battles while alttabed and doing something productive is not a big issue :D.
Somehow i still keep playing it although there are games out there that are not pay to win. But something about being able to against all odds grind my way up and blast gold noobs to pieces feels so rewarding :D
I can't even afford to drive some of my tanks without premium consumables or ammo, like my E-100 or AMX 50-100. I would love to see a credit-earning guide, like what tanks to drive for it, because all the ones right now suggest a premium tank, and I just want to know what regular tank is best for it.
It s a big diference for a standard equipment tank vs a full pimp out one. But yeah agree with you. Even if i have the meta tanks i stll play the underdog ones more, feels more rewarding.
TBH I am F2P and still use food and a fair bit of gold on most of my tanks while also having like 25 M credits rn. QB is really really exaggerating that F2P credit starve, it is more about stock tanks
How???? I'm in 7m and I thought I had a lot of credits omggg Now but you must be extremely good But like it's soo hard to grind credits and I cannot use food or a start not even making credits
You nailed it this time mr.QB. I have been playing this game for 10years. But strictly out of fun. But playing a game here or there or an 30min-1h play once or twice a week does not make my progress fast. Long time ago I have decided to stop at Tier 8. T10 are not economical for me. I do have 2 T9 but don’t play them that much. And also buying a T 10 would be impossible. I have given compliments to the Wargaming by buying one premium and buying some progress. But honestly I think they have become to greedy. But I still enjoy playing it. So that is why I am playing it. Would be nice if they can make a subscription for all of those who wish to play them. And also make a game mode where only free tiers can meet regardless of the tier level. And I don’t play to be ranked higher or get the medals. I just want to enjoy it.
I played it from 2013 till 2017 when it becamed unbarable for me, but I was coming back from time to time from 2017 up to early 2020, from mid 2020 I completely stoped playing it. Free players like me in such games are nothing but a non bot practicing targets for the premium players. The studio is using us as numbers to give the game moneterial value and to make the queues fast for the paying players.
QB, Request for QB: How about a 2021 Top 10 Fun tanks? What tanks do your really enjoying playing, irregardless of winning? As a player recently returned after a multi-year absence I can really relate to the free-to-play issues. The game really feels way more monetized than it used to be. I have so many tanks poorly fit because that’s what we used to have. Equipment 2.0 means hours of grinding credits in a premium tank for each of my older tanks just to properly equip them. And my old standby’s that were godly are now just practice targets for gold spewing auto-loaders, immensely frustrating.
What get me furious is grinding for a tier seven tank to find out it comes with a tier 5 gun and you have to grind getting killed often for another 75000 exp to get the tier seven gun.
On free to play account you have less tanks and you have lower tier tanks. Don't make the mistake of always playing high tier tanks, of grinding all the time, of trying to unlock many tanks. Play your best tanks. Then you can even get field mods and good crew, equipment for those few tanks.
If you ever decide to give blitz a try id be down to help with the grind, its alot more forgiving. Could discord and make a thing of it. Let me know if your interested XD
I pretty much have given up on WoT. I have been with WoT since the start when tanks,SP's and arty had their real world capabilities,but little by little WoT started jumping the shark. I quit playing for a yr because of how bad the game was getting.Example a luchs with a 2cm flak gun can kill a T-34 but the T-34 can't kill the luchs,or a PZ ll can survive 5 hits from a marder 38t 7.5 pak gun and kill the marder 38t. I came back to see how things were,and was disappointed that nothing has changed. I was on covid quarantine so I played WoT for 10 days 15 hrs per day beginning on 1/08/22,and my crew training never advanced in those 10 days.
I came back to play WoT after 2 yrs and every battle I play in everyone has been shooting gold at me, it makes playing this game so unrewarding experience. I don't really want to use gold against them, but I have been loading more gold than before (3-4 rds), now at least half of my rounds are gold. It really sucks.
i'm not f2p, but im also not completely p2w, however i don't think you absolutely need to spend money to get anything done in WoT. but i do strongly feel that the game is formated to be extremely unforgiving for a person who refuses to pour dollar bills onto WG's head.. just the rng alone can very often make you want to chop your head off with a rusty spoon..
And let's not forget the ping! I've invested in a new pc and my Internet connection has been upgraded to fibre in the last year. Wow! I am a much better player for these upgrades. Another I'd like to add is stop grinding - stay with those tanks at tiers 6-8 and really learn how to play them. It will improve your game and enjoyment no end.
As 6 years Free to play experienced player, I would like to recommend most free to play players to avoid Tier 8, there are tons of tons of much better powerful premium tanks are roaming around, they will eat you alive no matter how hard you try in tech tree tanks, Go with Tier 9, 7, 6 there are less of over powered paid tanks, more enjoyable gameplay, I repeat if u r free to play player without meta tanks, avoid Tier 8 at all cost.
I would recommend to avoid high tiers entirely. With tier 9 you will still meet op tier 8 premiums, and at tier 9 they still have a huge influence. And with tier 9 u will meet tier X half of the time, and tier X is the most toxic and least fun tier in this game. In no other tier you will find so many games ending on-sided and over after a couple of minutes. Most of the time you either get rushed or your team rushes and the game is over after 3 minutes. Both cases are shit. Tier X is so unbalanced because I guess that's were you have the biggest skill difference in players. I believe most high-skilled players almost only play high tiers. Tier X needs a skillbased mm more than any other tier. And I recommend not to play tier X unless u have achieved a rating of 5k-6k at least, cos otherwise u are too inexperienced.
Its that time of the year again where WG sells tons of tier 8 premiums, if you dont have any great tier 8 tanks, its best to avoid it for the next month.
This is so me right now, I've pretty much given up grinding anything anymore so I just play whichever tanks are fun.
Luchs + T49 ❤❤❤❤
It seems to me the better approach, I feel sick of being insta-nuked in the first 3 nanoseconds of being spotted in tier 8 to 10 games, lots of derpy fun tanks in tier 4 -6 to play with.
A good way to go for sure, especially if you have a shameful number of premium tanks.. the only time i play my tech tree tanks is for the daily multiplier.
I got super lucky yesterday in wotb- we got a free tier 3 collector tank vut it sells for 1,200 gold. I did that and had just enough gold for a crate, which immediatly dropped a snowglobe that gave me the centurion 5/1. Hell yeah lol
Same. After 10y in game.
KV-2, FV304 and Type59 :)
we should play
I'll point what makes life hardest for FTP players: the inability to get a 100% crew! Like WG let me pay 100k or even 200k credits per crew member just to see what the tank can do, without playing 50 games with boosters just to get the tank to do WHAT IT SHOULD DO FROM THE START!
@ghrutz ''wargaming's exploitation'' and ''dogshit game'' bro, do u play the game? 'cause if it' s the case, you should stop playing if you really think that 'cause u're hurting urself xD
u can pay for crew book with credits
@ghrutz tell that to my 20 unrecruited ppl in my garage. You got 3 for last 2 battle passes each. You got 4 or so from the WT event iirc and you can get at least 6-8 easy ones from personal campaign. Even if you are not that great you can get a few twice a year from normal campaign plus the extra ones you can get from other events.
@@Kill4Time255 he meant % not skills..
@ghrutz i'm delusional for what and about what? I'm just trying to tell you to stop playing the game if it makes you feel like that xD
I had the same experience: Hitting 30% winratio in a tank while grinding it is so frustrating - especially at T8 where you have to fight overpowered premium tanks - and I‘m by no means a bad player, hitting at least 2500 WN8 on average once the tank isn‘t stock anymore - but the grind there is painful with bad winratio and bad WN8
Which is why I refuse to play tanks stock. I spend so much free XP just to have the top gun, engine, and tracks.
Not even OP premium tanks. Facing higher tier vehicles when stock is like being a tier lower than you are. Expecially in heavies where they're basically glorified slow medium from a tier below.
you must be playing a turn based game
M8, I've had matches where there has been only 2 tech tree tanks on each team its mad.
@@tankerbruja Which is exactly what WG want from the experience :) Grinding is awful, so skip it by spending money! It never used to be quite this bad, but I think the preponderance of OP premium tanks, bond equipment and gold spam now makes grinding out a line a lot harder than it used to be 5 or 6 years ago. A stock tier 8 tank for a free to player is at a huge disadvantage when its matched up against the rediculous premiums that WG release.
I remember the T54E1 was used to be a Medium tank before getting into a Heavy tank ....
T57 is kinda mediumish, too.
Agreed
Same
its role is more of a medium than a heavy still, just wargaming wants to makes things easier for new players, after all the the t54e1 is built from the chassis of the m48 patton
And it still hits everything but a tank
The game itself in its entirety is extremely Anti-F2P friendly since WG mainly consider the paying part of the community which are the minority but disregard the majority of players who are F2P who just pad the player count. The paid battlepass and Pay to win premium tanks are some of the blatant disgusting reminders of how P2W the game is and shows how divided the player base is. The benefits you get from the paid battlepass alone gives you a MAJOR advantage over the F2P player with all those additional bounty equipment, training manuals, extra bonds, etc.
Yeah sure it's a "skill based" game at the end of the day but the argument doesn't really hold much weight when you see the "better players" having all the good equipment (bounty/bond - Sure some F2P players have this but that's rare), premium time and consumables, powerful premium tanks to give them that edge over others.
Those who still actively defend the game for what it is needs a reality check.
So true....
So what are your ingame name if i may ask. (or just your winrate and wn8)
It's called common sense, you want free you get the bottom of the barrel as you should. Half the dolts playing for free are skunk smelling pot heads living in moms cellar who for sure can afford premium time or something so yeah they shouldn't be rewarded. I will say the prices they charge for non real pixelated crap is insane, which really scares most people away from investing money into a game they like. WG pretty much cuts off their own legs due Stupidity on a Galactic scale daily.
What else would u offer in battle pass, or should they just give it to u for free
To be fair, I've played the game casually for five years, mostly having played or at least *tried to* play competitively for the first year or so, and then realizing it really isn't worth my time/effort that i have so little of, even now. It has been really fun watching all the content you put out however, and at certain times I feel like playing that way myself, but then again, I'm quite busy already trying to study and handle life at the same time.
I've recently started playing WoT Blitz, and tbh, I like the Tier 10 there better than here, balancing and what not. But what Blitz fails to give me are some of those nostalgic moments that I first had back in 2016, sitting in the comforts of my home and platooning with my friends and so on. You have time and again, made me come back to the game, and recently, I've had some fun by being able to actually pay and buy premium tanks, and I must say thank you for bringing me back, time and again to play this game, which I despise and adore at the same time :D
I played from 2014-2016 on WoT PC till I didn't have a PC then started playing Blitz in December 2017 and played ever since but I've gotta say Blitz is 100% worse then PC ever since update 5.5 and all these literal pay to win tanks
Same boat as you!
Got back into playing through him and been on Blitz.
Not as fun as console I once was on with friends, but brings me back to a simpler time.
I just got my first tier 9.
@@Knight_Igris plus th WG created tanks like smasher or gravedigger that ruins newbie players in tier 6 and 7
Well i have played blitz for 7 years and also a litle wotpc but i think blitz for me is much more fun for example gravity mode uprising hunger mad games and also now bos mode that is why i probably like more blitz than wotpc also im in minotory but i think blitz is beter than pc probably just because it is a much faster gameplay and more interesting to play.
@@lukajakos9680 it also had almost everything fun removed from update 5.5 and is even more p2w than pc
After playing on and off for 10 years, I’ve finally gotten my first tier 10 tank yesterday. I’ve paid some money, but really only for gold to convert experience to free XP and occasional premium time. I’ve played 16.5k games in total
If it really took you 10 years and 16.5k battles to get to T10 you should never ever try to get it and play it if you struggle so much to play good
Congrats to this elongated breathe...
Playing since spring '18 with 17k battles, bought my 1st X (T-62A) this summer, crew is 3 1/2 skilled.....still nothing keeps a team from throwing any task as each individual might only go for their goals; like dailies, personal missions, marathons- You name it.
There's sure more than one way to get some fun out of this game, GG well played!
True after 7 yes I got my first tier x but I won't get anymore because you loose credits 😢😢
I have 7 in about 26k game i was 10 when i was playing in the beginning so my stats are bad, playing as an adult now i understand the game im decent, and got so many tier 10s🤷🏼
I have 6 tier 10 by 9 years of play and I can buy the t62 anytime. And I have around 12-14 t9s
Okay, one things I would critizise: Even a free-to-play player should always be able to mount an automatic fire extinguisher.
You don't really *need* it that often, and I would wager that running automatic fire extinguishers actually SAVES you money in the long run. You get them for free reasonably often, your fire chance is reduced by 10% anyway & no human reflex is faster. The result: Either lowering your repair costs and/or keeping you in the fight longer, allowing you to earn more money & XP. So, I will NOT accept the price difference as a reason to not run it.
Other than that, you're right, and it's true for the Large Repair Kits and Med Kits.
yeah I have like 500 of them in my garage, keeping them because what if WG stops giving them away ? I will never run out of them, even though I sometimes sell 50 for quick bucks (well sometimes.. in black market occasion only ! Usually I'm stacked with credits, currently approaching 45M. Btw over the years I may have spent around 150€ on WoT, so I don't know if I'm really p2w or f2P, I'd say I'm between the two at least)
Sell them and buy premium consumables, they will give you far more advantage than any fire extinguisher. You'll be able to engage tanks faster, get follow on shots faster and you'll be detected later. Fire extinguishers are there so it's not too obvious that you don't have an empty slot and get salty that you are at a huge disadvantage.
Sell the extinguishers when they are at full price, buy consumables when they are 50% off. You get 1 for 1 swap of something useless for something that makes you competitive.
@@lucidnonsense942 If you really think they're useless, you have NEVER played Soviet tanks. Or are at a level at which point your crew has good firefighting skills.
And you are still missing the point... rations are used up after a battle. Large fire extinguishers are not, unless triggered. Meaning that they are far more cost effective, given that your average player isn't good enough to get the full use out of rations anyway.
@@DGARedRaven 100% facts
Considering how rare it is to get put on fire. (ammo rack being the least normal thing to go boom) Using the normal fire extinguisher is good enough. Really rebind one of the slots to F key and at worst you lose 300damage, that is if you have any reflexes and game sense to notice the fire as you get hit..
So used to hitting F when I notice I'm on fire. Really 10 000 credits is 7 500 wasted to save 200hp. That is RNG at tie 9-10. You get hit for 1100damage or 800. The fire damage is nothing when being F2P. The 10% advantage the enemy has is so much higher then a random ones in a while fire... F2P players should stay away from tier 10 as much as possible. And make sure to focus on tanks with good standard pen. And take gold rounds on tanks that it makes sense to use them. (330MM heat at tier 8 is really nice to have)
So dam used to dab the 5 key to repair my tracks. 5 and 2 combo to repair my ammo rack. But F (used in many games) at worst adds 1 or 3 ticks of extra damage vs "automatic" crap costing 10 000 credits. That is like 4 missed shots! The "RNG" tax is high enough. I rather get a return on 3 or so shots then not having to press F ones every few games.
The most frustrating thing about being a FTP is having stock vehicles.
Yes, but you know what I did? I did not research any vehicle until I got something like 400k free exp. And then I use that exp to unlock the most important parts of the vehicle. And so on...
@@danielstoica3489 smart
Oh god stock panther 2 nightmares
Really appreciated your take on f2p aspects of the game. I have spent money to get a premium tank for credit farming but f2p outside of that. I agree with some others in the comments about crew training being very difficult as f2p. Sure you can have 1 or so good crews per country from crew books but it is really tough outside of that.
really happy that your rant included many points i share as a f2p player , personally im willingly to face the less credit gain, xp gain and normie consumables disadvantage and let my skill cover what's lacking but what fundamentally affects me is grinding tech trees that turn out disappointed and i can't reinvest all the time and effort I put in
This exactly. One of the things war thunder does well is how past vehicles dont need to be bought again, so if you dont like a new tank in a line you can always go back and earn XP on the tank you liked that goes to the one you now want.
I remember being excited for buying the E100. Even with turbocharger, on Glacier I can't get out of base because a VZ.55 is gonna already be on the ridge spamming HEAT at my turret. I bounce 80% of standard shells and I get killed by gold shells almost everytime I die
i saw qb's old scout maus video. it looked pretty awesome, so i grinded my way up the line, from tier 5 to tier 8 (spent all of my free xp getting through the tiger p. that was my first and last free xp ever spent). then i realised that the impenetrable german armour couldn't stand up to gold. i stopped playing shortly.
@Liopio the Vz 55 has apcr as Gold rounds as far as I know and also one of the lowest gold pens with something like 310 so your e100 turret should be alright
@@marionell1514 In theory yes ... but I think WoT doesn't know it :-) :-)
@@JohanVanCauwenberghe if you angle your e100 turret somewhat correctly especially over longer distances it’s maybe 2 in 10 shots that pen
@@marionell1514 yeah, APCR, but my E100 turret is 270mm or something like that, so if I want to aim at him he can easily poke out and hit my flat cheeks and I can't hit anything on his turret
i like you , your a normal down to earth lad, as a chieftain and mk 1 challenger person, i am always amused with tank games, nothing like reality, but i enjoy your talk about battles, i am old now but your knowledge is refreshing, i play blitz, i think i now can not keep up with all this tech stuff , gold and the like, but ill keep trying on blitz you never know i might win a game .
Gay
R s , What regiment? You sound like an old squaddie hehe
@@enragedares5992 yes royal hussars, 1977-1990
@@cherrypicker3063 awesome! Keep doing you
@@cherrypicker3063 oh wow ! today known as Kings Royal Hussars after the amalgamation ! its a small world. i was KRH myself shortly before i retraded , still regret not staying KRH to this day :) amazing regiment with a HUGE history. im out now , did 12yr and left. Nice to see another tanker playing tanks haha
Found your channel yesterday and never played the game, been going through the videos and i'd say this is a perfect topic to cover for people like me who got interested in the game through your channel. I'm lucky this is the video you decided to post right now.
Around 2014 I thought I would play this game for the rest of my life, until WG decided that if you want to have fun you have to pay, this fall I will uninstall the game and I have no plans to install it again
You dont have to pay... Give me a reason why you HAVE to pay
They really need to make this game more viable for free players, I played a while ago but convincing my friends to play the game was so hard, most of the reason for this was the absolute god awful grind for people who just want to play for free. This game is ridiculously pay to win and it’s why me and many others have given up with it because it has just been getting worse and worse…
People should stop saying p2w for wot xD, if someone is a shithole on the game, spending nothing or 1000€ per month on wot won't change anything and clearly won't make him pro or just better but it's clearly a ''pay-to-make-it-fast'' game.
When i land against bad or average players with premium tanks, i still clap their ass 'cause even if they put money on the game (as i do i won't lie), i still beat them
@@nico7674 What is winning in wot tho? Complete ting every tree? Much faster with a premium account, doesn’t matter if your shit at the game
@@jomix7 a p2w game is a game where you win more games by paying (by buying things that make you unstoppable or almost for example), that's the definition, wot would be a p2w if you would got a better win ratio by simply giving money to wg.
What you're talking about is a pay-to-fast feature where you get things faster when you put some money in it but it isn't a pay-to-win feature at all because it doesn't make you win more games, it doesn't make sense to say that
I agree, the game is unfriendly to new players, especially if playing f2p. The game provides material advantages to established and paying players. New players also lack game and map knowledge, which is also important.
@@cognophile well, everyone's started at this point lel
The answer to all the questions that u asked in this video is simple.... Wargaming don't want you to play for free.
havent played in over 6 years, fuck wargamings scummy practices. Still love watching a good game though.
I’ve been playing for 8 years now and finally made it to my first tier 10, the Obj. 277. I’m happy that I finally made it but it took so long to make it.
It took you 8 years to play good and get ur 1st tier X
You play 100 games a year or something? Filthy casual.
congratulations on your first tier 10 :)
The best tank for mere mortals is the one in which you have the best crew and as of now all the field mods unlocked. British tier 8 and 9 med Centurions are fenomenal because they have 3 or 4 crew skill. I can afford food but my crews don't have firefighing so i can burn to death. Also getting the view range to 445 without coated optics was impossible for me without playing the tank for 400-500 battles. The best tank is the one with the best crew!
Edit: It would be best to have everithing unlocked when you buy a tank, including skilled crew, equipment, and consumables. Then everyone can be on the level playing field and could setup the tank in a way they see fit.
Tier 9 centurion is my fav, has good penetration, so no need to waste gold ammo
@@rekoilas T95 Supremacy. Imagine having a turret.
I loved WOT when it came out and before it was messed up so bad. I was ok at the game. It seems like if you are a casual player you have little chance of moving forward in the tech tree. I might play a couple times a week or so. Just don't have the time for constant play. I refuse to pay to win on games. With that It seems like I get tired of games quickly when there is no progression. Free To Play is just not worth it anymore for the time required to get anywhere.
After 4 years playing for free. Today, I decide to buy my first premium tank 703. And in my first 18 games, well... HOHOHO... Merry Christmas to myself.
Congrats!
You might want to put the 'Heavy Present' camo from last years holyday ops, it's on mine...
T54E1 when it was a medium and with the old top gun was just spamming gold rounds left right and center just to even be competitive back then. After I got the T57 Heavy, I just sold the E1 because it was just not viable to play without a decent chunk of your ammo reserve being gold ammo.
I think ever since it got change into a HT, they did change the gun's penetration value of both base and gold ammo which is a great change. Before this, I would never recommend anyone keeping the tank with its old top gun because it's a pain in the ass to even play it.
I've been playing for 7 years started when 13 and have been f2p until this year (got adult money now lol) and the biggest challenge for me was credit income. Even for a decent player with 2800wn8 credits were hard to come by so that actually pushed me to become a light tank main and my only tier 10 being the obj140 (since i did very well in it almost every game = break even on credits). Regarding food/equipment I still don't think they're essential unless ur in a competitive match, going for Moes or your in a borrasque(I can't play that without food).
I play borat with no food and hardly ever use gold. It is too OP anyway
@@test_nametest_surname1794 I can't deal with the borats traverse speed it actually feels like I'm in some huge ship turning in WoWs when I compare it to my t54ltwt or obj 140 lol. More power to you if you can tolerate that
@Daeki Ne I'd say the French amx Lt line and the Soviet Lt lines are the place to be for starters. The Soviet one in particular might be more forgiving of mistakes since they do have a bit of armor meaning you can get lucky bounces while the amx would definitely suit the hit and run style of Lts due to the autoloaders. In terms of advice I don't really know what to say besides remember u have a gun so use it when you can, play to your strengths (mobility n camo), and try to conserve HP until the end game. Honestly most of it is game knowledge so you'll get the hang of it the more you play. If you're looking for a lowerish tier Lt to try out first I'd maybe suggest the t71 da it's quite frankly pretty darn epic and fun. Cheers:)
remember this line being absolute pain in the ass to keep any kind of expierienced crew while progressing thrue.... it was LT's up to T7, then 2 MED's and a HT at T10..... any retraining costed so much exp for someone who doesn't buy gold....
I'm so grateful that you said something about the people that are bombing around in their op tanks thinking that they are king shit and they most likely aren't. I have lost track of the times that I received a message from someone after they killed me in the game saying "get gud scrub" yet they are in said op tank. A few times I was able to 1 v 1 the people that sent a message like that and crushed them. I'm not a unicum so it felt so good to wipe their faces in the dirt when they were the ones that messaged me with their toxic attitude.
Your point about the absurdity of not being able to research field mods before grinding the next tank is so on point
As a returning old player, it makes no sense to me that the biggest grind I do on the tank I need to do it at it's 'stock field mod' state. Like why...? What's the reasoning for that
When you finally unlock the field mods, there is no reason to play the tank unless you really really want to play the tank.
I'm paying player, but i still don't get bounty equipment, just because, I play only few months during winter and even I feel that I can't be competitive. I feel that the more game progresses the more wide gap there is between playerbase.
Just to talk on the effectiveness of the T54E1. I find that when I play mine the armor just doesnt exist. When I first started playing about 8 years ago I remember people saying how good the turret armor is on the vehicle but now it just feels like it has none. I will constantly get people going through the turret front with no problem. Not even using gold rounds (though some of them do). It feels like an even larger clunkier version of the Chi-Ri. Although that burst potential is truly something special.
ftp player from Kenya here... got my first tier 10 yesterday, after a year and 3 months playing WoT... the struggle is real.. thanks QB..
I have played the game on an off for 7 years. The biggest issue with WoT is their business model. At least in NA, people spend lots of money on f2p games, but that is spent on cosmetics mostly. WoT expects you to spend outrages amounts of money to even stay competitive. While most MMOs have a monthly cost, you get the full game and can only purchase cosmetics. Most of the games played in WoT are vs premium vehicles that are better than most in game line tanks. Those premium tanks aren’t available by playing the game, and their prices are that of full priced games. I’m mostly talking to the wind here, but if the game had a better business model, it would have had the ability to compete vs CoD and or Battlefield on player numbers.
Very very well said.
Though I don't play much anymore I personally think of the field mods as 'end game content' so to speak. Something for you to do once you've hit max level to improve your equipment
one of the best things QB ever did was start his free to play account.
around 3:50 you described my life as a ftp tanker. I watched the Japanese heavies dominate while I struggled up the tech tree. by the time I got the type 5 it was nerfed into oblivion. Similarly, the obj 268v4 line (except that tank is still relevant. The FOMO pressure to spend $ is strong with this game
I used to enjoy the game by the time the video tutorials were made by Wargaming for T32 vs Tiger and IS-3 (maybe 2013?). Each had strong points and weak points and you had to make the best of it. That was what I enjoyed about the game. Sure one would use occasionally a premium round in special situations. Now there are so many perks to consider and buy. All kind of autoloaders roam the battlefield - some have a clip, some have double shots, some have a hybrid loading mechanism. Once in a while a new OP line is introduced. After the armor buff is seems that it is a prem rounds frenzy. Even you feature games of players having good games while shooting mostly premium rounds. "Oh, it's an armored tank, I will switch to gold to be competitive". I used to enjoy taking advantage of game mechanics (searching for weak spots, angling the tank, wiggling the hull) and not game economy.
This game more feels like "play to win players" are like just punching bags for "pay to win players" !!!
I love the T54E1, both when it was a medium and now. I have a 60% w/r with over 1500 battles, and it was my first 3 marked tank. I'm always drawn to underdogs, but this is maybe the most powerful and capable underdog in the game.
I played 2013-16 as a pay to win player. I stopped paying, and mostly playing till a few weeks ago. I reinstalled WoT and realized how uncompetitive my old tanks are. It was great seeing you feature the T54E1. It was one of my favorites back in the day. I'm really not sure I want to invest anything more into this game, so it was interesting seeing the plays for free prospective in this video. Thanks QB.
7,7k games, playing for 9 years on-off and I recently used 5 free premium days to fully grind through the t6 and t7 Swedish ikvs and fully equip the Udes. Man, this tank is a fun-beast compared to all the other non-meta tanks I’ve been grinding for over years just to get to tier 8 or 9 at max. (Still not owning any t10 tank but that’s due to the variety I am playing). But something like a stock-centurion 7/1 is just cruel to grind for free… 29% winrate in the last 60 games even tho I am a 52% player.. Well, I think the p2w aspect is why I mostly prefer other games over wot and only come back every once in a while.
Man, I just unlocked the top gun on the IKV 90 B and... it’s just such a nothing tank lol. Nothing about it is exciting. That’s the worst part about that line until the UDES; they’re just *ok* at everything. Except armor, none of that lol.
Too many tanks in the game are just boring grinds.
I agree, my grind on cent 7/1 was painful and now I'm trying to grind in ST-I but because of stock syndrome I'm not able to do much and have to rely on my team..
I am not a regular player and I spend a set amount on the game from time to time. Mostly I buy gold, but sometimes I will buy a premium account for something like 14 days.
I have to say that I have learned a lot from your channel over the years, so please keep it going! Your videos about the consumables have been of immense help, especially what to use with what to get that edge! I have never bought a single premium consumable such as fire extinguishers. Those I have all won via the game when WG have some sort of event. The non-premium consumables I buy when they are on special, but then I buy like a 100 of them at a time! Also, a tip from your channel I believe!
Yes, the premium tanks are a pain, especially when you shoot gold at them, and you cannot even damage them! Some of them is a nightmare to fight against; completely overpowered, but if you work with your team and just spot and track them, then someone on your team who has a more powerful tank can hopefully kill the nightmare! WOT's are probably play to win and unfair, but that is life; GET USED TO IT!
as a F2P i appreciate your content take on the game. after 3 yrs grinding the line , I'm looking forward to getting the Leo1 this xmas, after i grind the silver of course, remember when differed gratification was a thing?
I'm a completely free to play player with just over 1k games and a 57% wr. I got a t8 premium for bonds and usually only play on tech trees that are top of the tree as i don't have much time to play wot. Progression is slow but it is possible. One thing I learnt is to never miss out on a free premium (the valiant got me 3 top guns and a 78% wr.) They also save you loads of time grinding credits.
Hey QB…thanks for vids. I believe your thoughts on field mods or researching up would help. I think the problem is helping lower winrate and new players. We want to get people to join and stay playing. I think one the answer is limiting gold rounds based on tier matching and skill(win rate). The other way frequently discussed is just limit damage, but then lower tier match tanks have an even greater disadvantage. Tier 6 tanks will really struggle if trying to kill a defender with lower damage. So, I’d keep current mechanics and let computer calculate and display. You could round up for clip tanks, but autoloaders would not get the rounding. Player just selects how many HE rounds and computer calcs and displays. Then the allowable amount is modified based on win rate (to help lower players) and maybe even credit mod for lower win rate players to also help.
Example same tier (top tier) base is 30% gold rounds (just as with any stat computer will calculate and display options, you could choose no gold rounds). One tier down max 50% gold rounds and 2 tiers down 75% gold. Then each of these is modified by win rate. For each point over 50% you loose 2.5% and for every point under 50% you gain 5% rounds. You can set lower limits. So experience player 53% at tier 10 will start 30%, but loose 7.5% to a base of lower limit 25%. A player at 47% winrate in same tier ten tank would get 30% base + 15%=45% allowable gold. So better players need to use more skill and less gold. Throw wargaming a bone, premium tanks or monthly accounts get 2.5% bonus, and maybe even loader skill at 2.5%.
Just limit “skilled” players from just spamming gold and give players who are less skilled a chance. We need people to stay and play…..Thx from NA
I've been play 4 free for 6 years... took 3 years off, then picked it up again during "the cough" I feel like Bantha Fodder! I also go broke playing tier 10. For years I found watching your content more interesting than actually playing the game!
I also always go broke when i play too much tier 10 in blitz...
And i couldn't agree more on the last sentence 👌
Hi, i love your content, i have been playing mostly free to play for 8 years (actualy around 18k battes), i have to admit what have you said in your video. Also there is another tricky thing, if you are in clan to have some bonuses from building, then you have to usualy play clan battles (dont know exactly how its called havent been in clan for years) and these battles are very expansive. But one of the biggest rewards for me is, when i kill Pay2win player in battle without scratch, just simply being smarter, its soo satisfying. Thank you for your videos.
i played this game in 2011,2013, 2017 and this year (4 out off 10). as a FTP i want to add other big issues. first off all a FTP have a limited space in garage. that means you have to constantly sale small tier tanks to make space for the higher ones. and when you get close for that Tier X you wanted so mutch, you realise that you need the small tiers that you sell to make some coins to actualy have a chance to buy one. and this is the part were the developers have their fun with FTP, becouse afther you grind hard your way , they nurff so bad that tier X that you went for untill they forces you to press the uninstall button :) it happened to me with E100 & IS7.
after 9 years in the game as a free player I can say that the worst thing about being a free player is the constant loss of credit at higher tiers. its just so frustrating. I hope WG fix that someday
First vid I've seen after realy long time while you didn't used any gold round +1
Woah woah woah the T54E1 IS A HEAVY?! I remember it being a medium back in 2016
Yeah as a free to play player for me I switched to blitz cause i just don't have the insane amount of time to out into a game like you need in wot PC you have to grind A LOT to get the advantages and crew skills and equipment to be competitive compared to blitz it's so much easier and cheaper as well if you do wanna spend a buck or 2 every now and again the WOT PC has been my child hood I've always loved it but it just requires so much more time even with the longer battles I decided to switch to blitz where I have several tier 10s and tier 9s but I'll always love watching other people play it and your content QB still like to keep track and learning more about what's happening in the game
To be honest I agree with QB, for example I started grinding the object 430U a few years back when it was the best medium tank, in the meantime you got italian auto-reloaders, the object 140 got better... and now I don't even play it.
Also It took me years of grinding to get to tanks that I actually enjoy the play-style, that's my biggest pet peeve with world of tanks. And that is that most lower tech tree tanks either play nothing like the higher tier ones and therefore you can't even know if you like the playstyle until you invested tens or hundreds of hours into grinding or are just downright a masochistic experience to sit through. And even if you get to that point where you get that good tank, you still need a lot of time and hundreds of thousands of experience just to get that top gun, or tracks or something else which actually makes the tank special... (you know what I mean, a tier IX tank with a stock tier 6 or tier 5 gun with 170 pen or less...).
I have tanks that I detest now and feel like they are crap not necessarily because they truly are but mostly because I had to play them for a long time to progress and the stock grind was extremely punishing. I feel like this is somewhat patched with new tech tree tanks (for example the double barrel tanks weren't that bad) but the higher russian mediums, or british TD's, heavy tanks...
And worst still, most of the stock guns are only viable if you load only gold rounds (more expensive ones) and if you don't you can't pen, which means you can't kill your opponent, which means you die early, which means you loose silver on repairs and don't get any XP bc you didn't live long enough to make an impact which ultimately leads to having a negative economy and negative win rate which then forces you to play your premium tanks, but wait, you don't have premium tanks, but wait, you can buy premium tanks for bonds, but wait, you can only get bonds on tier X, which you need to grind, but you need credits...
All in all it's a very well oiled machine, and even though I commend QB for playing his free to play account, I still think that the biggest advantage he has is the opportunity to try out any tank he wants and then decide on his limited f2p if it's worth it or not. Wargaming, if you can put trial periods on premium tanks, put trial periods on tech tree tanks, you have the vs AI maps, use them, you don't have to offer every tank there is, give players a chance to try the most iconic top tree tanks, take them for a spin, so they can see if they are actually worth grinding and suffering for...
I mean they occasionally do this with 'rentals', though this is very sporadic and of course they're always premiums, so the insight you get from playing them for 20 battles or whatever is limited. Obviously WG's intention with the rentals is to entice u to buy; maybe they've finally given up on me as it's 4 years straight F2P.
Free to play player here and i always play with larger repair kit, large medkit and automatic fire extinguisher on all my tier 8 and up tanks
to me the most frustrating part is the credits, its so hard and obnoxious to have to sell your tanks just to buy a higher tier one, not to mention ammo and equipment
I do like the fact of free to play is the satisfaction after getting your tank that you were grinding for
I've been playing the game for 9 years (with a 3 yr break in the middle) and last week was the first time I ever spent money on the game. I must also mention that I received a gift of some gold from a clanmate when I had been playing for about a year. I used it with extreme frugality and extremely gradually (pretty sure I still haven't spent all of it) to buy extra garage/barracks slots when on sale and a small collection of tier 3/5 premium tanks for crew training. It wasn't until this fall that I was able to purchase my first two tier 8 premium tanks using bonds. I've done the grinds to earn additional tier 5/6 premium tanks for free (TOG).
As a (mostly) ftp player I have just accepted that I need to use good tactics/positioning in order to damage some vehicles without using gold rounds. I try to make sure I use what resources I have wisely.
Sometimes that is fun in of itself, using less while achieving more.
Try playing with a sub 100% crew. I haven't played for years, but that was painful. I don't think I ever even got more than one skill on a crew, let alone three or more. The game has become a battle of the titans, the veterans get better and better while the newcomers and low spenders are left in the dust
Yeah the system which takes thousands if not tens of thousands of battles to "max out" is quite bad for the long run. Good thing WG offers crew books so you can get a 4 skill crew quite easily without having to play for thousands of games. After you get the essential skills/perks the rest don't really matter and become marginal.
The lack of credits is 100% real for F2P, been on and off for 7 yrs, still can't afford a T10. Running 3 (almost 4) T9s: Tortoise, Conway, Standard B (still stock) and Obj 257 (had it researched for a while, can't afford it). Saving free XP used to be my biggest concern when I was only getting
I'm so glad you made this video and these points!!
That's why now I only play from time to time when we get some kind of bonuses. I don't have the patience anymore to mindlessly grind something which takes forever, unless you buy "time savers" from WG.
This is why I quit this game over half a decade ago. The grind was so bad even with someone who paid money for gold. Everything is SO expensive if you don't want to hate yourself from grinding a crap tank (before fully upgrading it). Using a tier 7-8 gun in a tier 9 tank is not fun.
That being said, thanks for making videos so enjoyable to watch as I can still watch them after all these years of not playing.
A week ago, I researched and bought my first tier 9 tank. Today, I play it with full equipment, 3+ skilled crew. And I'm a free-to-play newbie. How do I do that? Well here's the story. My first tier 6 tank was the AT8, and I just loved the combination of crazy armor and a good gun. I went up the tech tree and found the Tortoise, learned how good it was, and started: A. grinding in the AT15 (not nice) B.saving up special crew for it C. Bought equipment at half-price for it D. Made 6 blueprints out of the British blueprints that I got for getting Festive Atmosphere level 5 . There was a snitch with my plan, though, which was that I couldn't get the top gun instantly. Still, when I got it, I broke my dmg record and my dmg blocked record.
I am very lucky for getting t34s and rbfm m10. Im happy to know that QB know how most of us feel like
I don't know if I'm the only one, but I mainly play german heavies yeah, and the only heavy tank I use the fire extinguisher is Obj. 777 version II, all other heavies I use large repair kit (just for the bonus speed to repair, and if I really really need I use it), small medkit and small repair kit, it works and I very rarely get a fire anyway so I consider it more than worth it
Merry Christmas and to back!!
I agree on a different way. I play part time a couple hours here and there. I grind to earn tier 8 tanks and loose points just to play. I get hit a few times hit some tanks and even destroy some at times. Now I do have a few Premium tanks and enjoy them as well, but when I play my KV4 and other tier 8 thanks and survive I loose credits or points. In order to regain my credits I have to play a premium tanks in a half ass manor get destroyed and score more credits to make up the points from the regular tanks. I like to play SPG because its less stressful knowing I will get destroyed and not see it coming. The only thing I hate or dislike is the amount of time to reload. I think I have a couple that it takes 36 seconds to reload.
Thanks for listening.
I guess I still have the mentality of the old days. I get that grinding sucks, but it always has. However, they've added so many things to help you grind. More events that have x5 exp, exp boosters, and on track missions. It used to be brutal. I was looking back at my early days of playing and realized it would take over 100 games to get out of a tier 6 (granted I probably sucked back then). Now it takes 20-30 without premium. I still think that this game has gone too far with the premiums, but you can streamline your grinding to make it not too horrible. Completely agree that it's stupid you have to elite the tank first before field mods, though.
I love your f2p-videos when you show us the p2w mechanics as I m a f2p-player myself without any gold-round so far for about 7 years. if you talk about the p2w-mechanics or mechanics which try to lure you into spending it helps to detect them and makes it easier to not spend anything.
thanks qb
Another aspect is much faster crew training with premium account which is very powerful advantage.
Made the 10 seconds ago crew- Fantastic video as always!
I have a great example of why people think the game is out to get them sometimes.
Today I was in my Centurion 7/1 on Himmelsdorf, I was top tier. I had a 54% WR in the Cent up until two days ago when I got 14 losses in a row. 52% now, and I'm completely F2P.
Anyway, literally every shot I fired either missed or bounced. I fired 8 shots, had 1 bounce, and 7 misses. All from close range. I witnessed other tanks on my team shoot at enemy tanks point-blank and somehow miss them. T30 fired at an EBR that his barrel was touching for 0 damage. We lost 3-15. You can't tell me that the game does not rig the results in favor of some teams winning.
I've been on the other side of these rigged battles, and it's like I can't miss.
I've spent really lot's of money on a premium account, premium tanks, and bounty equipment to have some advantage (or maybe sometimes to not have disadvantage) but mostly to shorten the time of getting tier 10 tanks. Now looking back - I could spend less money and do not buy so many premium tanks, but on the other hand - this game gave me so much time (and sometimes a lot of frustration ;-)). I still play it and still have fun.
Same thing for me, at the end of the day its a personal choice if you have fun and want to spend money then do so. If not then dont spend any.
I grinded almost a 100 hours in one week to get an IS-3. Did that suck yes a lot, I even quit the game shortly after that. Player base was way worse 7 years ago so my team kept getting swiped away so fast it wasnt even fun anymore. Just got back in the game last week and boy is it way more fun now even when you play without paying anything.
Hello QB!
First of all I wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Second of all, would you try the iyouxin style IS-7 build. It looks so much fun?
The only thing that is available to a f2p player and does give you an advantage is the automatic fire extinguisher. The credits and XP are also just brutal. Example, I play a game in my tier X strv 103-0 and i get 2500 dmg or so and I stay alive but left on 300hp or so, also it's a win, that game costs me like 10k credits or so when in reality a won game where you did some damage should never ever be burning your credits. It's just insane
The only thing I don’t like tbh that’s a premium advantage, is the premium ammo. For example, if you have a tank that’s known for having good frontal armor or good turret armor and then someone who normally wouldn’t be able to penetrate you from that angle and it’s the only thing keeping you alive. Just loads some premium ammo and just destroys you and defeats the whole purpose of your tank
Ultimate freeloader tip:
Install World of warplanes and play every day 1 battle (or AFK 3 battles till the battle ends, who cares about player experience in WoWp). That will finish daily mission, if you complete all 7 in the week you get chest. Chest may drop free experience (valid for WoT), gold (valid for WoT) and wargaming premium (it is not as good as WoT premium, but still gives you +50% experience and credits and is better than nothing).
After a year or two you will have enough gold just to buy one t8 premium for gold and enough free experience to skip the stock on the entire line for almost nothing
Making something a daily habit like this is a price you pay in itself.
@@fickleborn5314 true, but that's kinda the point of being free to play - you can either avoid paying or suffering.
And to be honest, afking 3 battles while alttabed and doing something productive is not a big issue :D.
Somehow i still keep playing it although there are games out there that are not pay to win. But something about being able to against all odds grind my way up and blast gold noobs to pieces feels so rewarding :D
I can't even afford to drive some of my tanks without premium consumables or ammo, like my E-100 or AMX 50-100. I would love to see a credit-earning guide, like what tanks to drive for it, because all the ones right now suggest a premium tank, and I just want to know what regular tank is best for it.
It s a big diference for a standard equipment tank vs a full pimp out one. But yeah agree with you. Even if i have the meta tanks i stll play the underdog ones more, feels more rewarding.
TBH I am F2P and still use food and a fair bit of gold on most of my tanks while also having like 25 M credits rn.
QB is really really exaggerating that F2P credit starve, it is more about stock tanks
How????
I'm in 7m and I thought I had a lot of credits omggg
Now but you must be extremely good
But like it's soo hard to grind credits and I cannot use food or a start not even making credits
QB, any chance for some T57 Heavy and WA-111 5A gameplay? Great content, keep it up!
You nailed it this time mr.QB.
I have been playing this game for 10years. But strictly out of fun. But playing a game here or there or an 30min-1h play once or twice a week does not make my progress fast.
Long time ago I have decided to stop at Tier 8. T10 are not economical for me. I do have 2 T9 but don’t play them that much. And also buying a T 10 would be impossible.
I have given compliments to the Wargaming by buying one premium and buying some progress. But honestly I think they have become to greedy. But I still enjoy playing it. So that is why I am playing it.
Would be nice if they can make a subscription for all of those who wish to play them. And also make a game mode where only free tiers can meet regardless of the tier level. And I don’t play to be ranked higher or get the medals. I just want to enjoy it.
After many years, I got my first tier 10 tank. It was T110E5. Yes, I sold it. Yes, it was because of the huge weakspot.
This is the time to play if you are free to play. I have gotten 4 free garage spots in the present boxes. This is the best thing if you ask me.
I played it from 2013 till 2017 when it becamed unbarable for me, but I was coming back from time to time from 2017 up to early 2020, from mid 2020 I completely stoped playing it. Free players like me in such games are nothing but a non bot practicing targets for the premium players. The studio is using us as numbers to give the game moneterial value and to make the queues fast for the paying players.
As a casual free-to-play player (and even when I was paying for premium time) I definitely had a chance, but it was extremely slim.
QB,
Request for QB: How about a 2021 Top 10 Fun tanks? What tanks do your really enjoying playing, irregardless of winning?
As a player recently returned after a multi-year absence I can really relate to the free-to-play issues. The game really feels way more monetized than it used to be. I have so many tanks poorly fit because that’s what we used to have. Equipment 2.0 means hours of grinding credits in a premium tank for each of my older tanks just to properly equip them. And my old standby’s that were godly are now just practice targets for gold spewing auto-loaders, immensely frustrating.
This tree was my first heavy line. thanks.
What get me furious is grinding for a tier seven tank to find out it comes with a tier 5 gun and you have to grind getting killed often for another 75000 exp to get the tier seven gun.
On free to play account you have less tanks and you have lower tier tanks. Don't make the mistake of always playing high tier tanks, of grinding all the time, of trying to unlock many tanks. Play your best tanks. Then you can even get field mods and good crew, equipment for those few tanks.
Some very nice talking QB, keep it up!
I really respect you for using your free account, QB. I am a free player, and lately it has been brutal.
If you ever decide to give blitz a try id be down to help with the grind, its alot more forgiving. Could discord and make a thing of it. Let me know if your interested XD
I pretty much have given up on WoT. I have been with WoT since the start when tanks,SP's and arty had their real world capabilities,but little by little WoT started jumping the shark. I quit playing for a yr because of how bad the game was getting.Example a luchs with a 2cm flak gun can kill a T-34 but the T-34 can't kill the luchs,or a PZ ll can survive 5 hits from a marder 38t 7.5 pak gun and kill the marder 38t. I came back to see how things were,and was disappointed that nothing has changed. I was on covid quarantine so I played WoT for 10 days 15 hrs per day beginning on 1/08/22,and my crew training never advanced in those 10 days.
I only spend money on loot boxes cause it makes getting T10 atmosphere wayyy easier, and then you can reap the rewards quicker.
Real talk this is one of his best videos boys
I came back to play WoT after 2 yrs and every battle I play in everyone has been shooting gold at me, it makes playing this game so unrewarding experience. I don't really want to use gold against them, but I have been loading more gold than before (3-4 rds), now at least half of my rounds are gold. It really sucks.
i'm not f2p, but im also not completely p2w, however i don't think you absolutely need to spend money to get anything done in WoT. but i do strongly feel that the game is formated to be extremely unforgiving for a person who refuses to pour dollar bills onto WG's head.. just the rng alone can very often make you want to chop your head off with a rusty spoon..
baby you are so talking good right things, everything helps :) thank you!
in wot frustration is part of the addiction
And let's not forget the ping! I've invested in a new pc and my Internet connection has been upgraded to fibre in the last year. Wow! I am a much better player for these upgrades.
Another I'd like to add is stop grinding - stay with those tanks at tiers 6-8 and really learn how to play them. It will improve your game and enjoyment no end.
As 6 years Free to play experienced player, I would like to recommend most free to play players to avoid Tier 8, there are tons of tons of much better powerful premium tanks are roaming around, they will eat you alive no matter how hard you try in tech tree tanks, Go with Tier 9, 7, 6 there are less of over powered paid tanks, more enjoyable gameplay, I repeat if u r free to play player without meta tanks, avoid Tier 8 at all cost.
I would recommend to avoid high tiers entirely. With tier 9 you will still meet op tier 8 premiums, and at tier 9 they still have a huge influence. And with tier 9 u will meet tier X half of the time, and tier X is the most toxic and least fun tier in this game. In no other tier you will find so many games ending on-sided and over after a couple of minutes. Most of the time you either get rushed or your team rushes and the game is over after 3 minutes. Both cases are shit.
Tier X is so unbalanced because I guess that's were you have the biggest skill difference in players. I believe most high-skilled players almost only play high tiers. Tier X needs a skillbased mm more than any other tier. And I recommend not to play tier X unless u have achieved a rating of 5k-6k at least, cos otherwise u are too inexperienced.
I would say low tier
Tier x you loose credits
Tier 9 is okk
Etc...
@@robinkhn2547 I have enjoyed tier X a bit, specially on ranked i had quite some fun, Free to play player here (Dont even load gold on me tanks)
Its that time of the year again where WG sells tons of tier 8 premiums, if you dont have any great tier 8 tanks, its best to avoid it for the next month.
Yep. My preference tier battle is tier v, vi, vii. But yeah sometimes got tier viii battle in tier vi and vii.