I Watched Every Yu-Gi-Oh! Movie
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2023
- Become a Channel Member 💎 / @enigmaanime
Follow me on Twitter ☑️ / whoisenigmayt
Thumbnail artist 🎨 / kagami_360
Yugioh English logo made by BT-YGO on deviantart
#yugioh #anime #animereview #animeanalysis #enigma 
Кино
DSOD made Kaiba the best rival in Shonen. Correct me, which rival went to the lengths he went for a salty runback. Like he made a space elevator afterlife transporter to play a card game against your dead rival. Dedication.
Damn it, why do you have to be so right!
I guess you could say Kaiba was dead-icated to getting his rematch?
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 😎
And that's purely because DSOD is the *manga* timeline, not the anime
Couldn't agree more
In defense of DSoD
Yugi DID proove that he was the better duelist as he was completrly holding his own against Kaiba and initialy Aigami, Atem only appeared when all the supernatural shit started happening, it was more of Atem rewarding Yugi for never backing down against insurmantable odds, by that point it wasn't a duel anymore, it was a battle against an ancient egyptian eldritch horror so the good guys needed their own magic BS to win, which is completely fair
True, also Yugi didn't believe Atem could come back Kaiba did. Before he sorta died he told yugi to call to him and if you remember 4kids Kaiba doesn't believe in magic...but he believed in atem.
@@Mysticgamer and another thing I forgot to mention, Yugi never actually calls for Atem (in both dub and sub)he is the only one who has truly accepted that he is gone and is willing to stand on his own, that's why when Atem does come back and they have that little nod is more Atem recognizing Yugi's growth and knowing he will do just fine without him
@VGInterviews Kaiba told Yugi to call for him, but if I remember correctly...Yugi just says he believes in the heart of the cards, I think 🤔 Think I'll rent it again to be sure.
@@Mysticgamer yes, in the dub yugi instead just says "draw" intensing to continue to fight, and the apologizes to everyone as he is fainting, Yugi never calls Atem himself
He didn’t just hold his own against Kaiba, he won fair and square. Another RUclips channel covered the duel play by play, and long story short. Kaiba literally had no play once Dark Magician went to attack directly; that was game right there and then.
The thing about Kaiba in DSOD, not once did he let the rules hold him back.
When Aigami tried to disappear him, he rejected it with technology.
He pulled Obelisk out of the ground.
Kaiba was the only one who thought Atem would come back from the afterlife, they called him crazy, but Kaiba was proven right at the end. When Yugi asked him how he knew Atem would come back, “You have your bond with him, and i have mine.”
Even if it’s established that seeing the Pharaoh again was a one way trip, I have no doubt that he Kaiba would screw the rules and find a way back.
Forgot that gem of a line said by Kaiba
...Because he has MONEY.
You forgot to mention that Bonds Beyond Time is actually canon to 5D's! In the final arc which was never dubbed, it's revealed that Paradox was a member of Yliaster and close friends with both Z-one and Aporia! It's the only time in the entirety of the Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise where a main series actively references the events of a movie.
Does that mean that when Yugi Sees jaden in the first episode of gx He remembered him?
@@bhakodokripha9422 I actually have a theory about that, about how Yugi remembering Judai/Jaden in the past helped save them in the future.
Basically, after beating Paradox and going back home, defeating Atem and growing up, Yugi recognizes Judai and gives him Winged Kuriboh, knowing that giving him said Kuriboh will inevitably come up in the far future. As, if Judai didn't have a reason to use Kuriboh cards, then they would've lost against Paradox.
In the English Version of Episode 148 of Duel Monsters, when the gang gets the invitation from Pegasus, Tristan says, "Last time we saw him he wasn't so creepy," which is a reference to Pyramid of Light.
@@ECKohnsreminds me of the throwaway line in Pokemon where team rocket casually mentioned seeing a Lugia before, referring to Pokemon 2000
@@Desma-wf4xohe used the millennium pendant 😮
16:35 - actually, Paradox doesn’t steal Neos, he stole Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon and so Judai attacked him to get them back. Neos only disappears because of the Paradox’s time travel preventing its creation, which is why Neos comes back when Yusei and Judai travel back in time.
I think Neos (and maybe Junk Warrior) was the only Ace Monster to get a Crossover Form in Neos Knight.
@@thatman666nah, from 5D onward hero fusions use generic unspecific mitirials, in neos knights case his mitirials are neos and absolutely any warrior type monster
@@hoaujudaiyubel Doesn't change the fact they seemingly borrowed parts from Black Luster, gave it to Neos and decided *NEW FORM.* Not phased by this since I've seen many Toku heroes used recycled assets.
@@thatman666 I don't see the bls comparison, neos knight looks like neos in a toku style mech suit to me
You're right about the fact the writers came up with the idea for neos knight for the crossover, I simply thought you were talking in universe
Cuzz in universe and in the card game neos knight isn't a crossover form but rather a generic form but from a meta prospective neos knight was designed for the bbt crossover
@@hoaujudaiyubel Neos knight is literally Neos wearing Black luster soldiers/Chaos soldiers armor, sword and shield. Im pretty sure that at some point when they were writting the Duel, they liked the idea of Atem summoning BLS and Judai fusing it with Neos to create Neos Knight. But that Idea was dropped because in the Duel he used Yuseis Junk Guardna as a material, but they kept Neos knights design
I really don't get why you didn't like the ending of DSOD. The entire movie is about Kaiba not being able to accept the death of the one and only person that allowed him to change as an individual, realize who he really was and what he had lost growing up (something you can't understand without reading the original Manga). Kaiba's story in the manga ends at the end of battle city, where he entrusts Atem with his support and goes on as a changed individual. In this movie, he doesn't just chase after Atem because he wants to prove himself as the superior duelist, I mean the only fact he loses to Aigami moments prior, or that he never went to the afterlife to beat Pegasus (the only other person who beat him) proves victory wasn't what he really was chasing after. What he really after was Atem, his rival, his only friend.
In the last moment of the movie, he goes on his one way trip because he couldn't move on, because he couldn't live in a world where Atem wasn't. It's tragic, and it's a sensitivity the Anime version of Kaiba lacks. Kaiba isn't just some egocentrical douchebag, he's a tragic character that didn't get to say goodbye to the one man that allowed him to become a better person.
Although I agree, Atem definitely shouldn't have come back during that final duel.
It's a sensitivity the dub Kaiba lacks, but the Kaiba in the japanese anime retained that same personality and motivation.
The reason why he doesn’t like it neither do I is because yami coming back literally spits on the entire ending of the yugioh anime/manga. Yugi beating atem what’s the show us and yugi that he didn’t need the pharaoh and that he’s confident. But atem coming back and saving the day undermines that concept, they should’ve had yugi remember atem in that moment he fell on stage and collapsed and got up due to a strong resolve to win
@@amarg7657 I didn't contradict that, this is a very stupid decision I don't think should have been made. But I wasn't talking about that here, I was talking about his criticism of Kaiba's implied death at the end of the movie. I think it's one of the most fitting endings to such a tragic characters
@@bigfish5544 that I’m technically fine with. It fits laiba I don’t mind that sorry I just woke up and miss read your comments probably
@@amarg7657 I guess so
I might be wrong but I think the reason why Kaiba was gonna die if he reached the afterlife in transcend game was because he didnt have the quantum cube (to travel to different dimensions). In the ending of dsod we see a frame that shows us he brought the cube with him, (I don't think he would bring it unless he needed it for something important) knowing that Kaiba has the skills to deflect it's energy when he came across Diva he could probably enhance it's power if he posseses the cube. We also see in the ending the black purple dust coming out of Kaiba, similar to Diva when he was in a dimension and he sees the ring. So in a way Kaiba might be planning on returning to Mokuba and not completely abandoning him if the quantum cube is able to take him back.
Yugioh dark side of dimension still my favorite Yugioh movie all time
Fr
@@jahrichest yup
Cool
Man, I remember I thought we were done with yugi Moto and then they just dropped this movie and it was SO FIRE
It’s everyone’s.
My headcanon for the ending of DSOD is that kaiba goes to the afterlife, looses to atem, and as punishment just to fuel his spite, gets sent back to the living world so that he cant vs atem anymore. and then the illustration future continues.
For those wondering or talking about it, Kaiba does return after DSoD. The creator confirmed it before passing away. He had some art drawn up and one is of Yugi and Kaiba in a Satellite playing a game. Which he confirmed as a Canon event in the storyline after DSoD. Hope that helps!
We need a sequel asap
@@Carlos.Riverasadly we can’t cus the creator of Yugioh died RIP 😢
I like the author's drawing of the end of the original series; as I feel like it's a return to the original manga's spirit and the author's overall love for games of all kinds.
I would've loved to see the DM vs GX crossover movie. I think it wouldn't just be Yugi vs Jaden but also Joey vs Chazz, Mai vs Alexis, Kaiba vs Zane etc.
God I've been wanting Kaiba vs Zane for years lol
Me too
That would've been so cool
Have Syrus and Hassleberry vs Weevil and Rex Raptor.
Jeez guys, you made me realize how much I love some characters just by thinking who I' d be rooting on...
And to think that I love DM so much...
But, except for probably Jonouchi, my hearts will go instead to almost every GX character you listed here 😅
They really could have given DSOD a better ending by simple having Yugi remember the Pharoah and standing strong to defeat Aigami, heck they could have even let him manifest Slifer the same way Kaiba manifested Obelisk
I love the ranking except for DSOD. That placement is crazy is all I’ll say
Also I believe it was confirmed that the illustration is an epilogue. Not an alternative. The cube would keep Kaiba from dying
Wait... but Pegasus in Waking the Dragons was actually Alister in disguise. So doesn't really count as a rematch for Kaiba getting his win.
Exactly lol,and Kaiba doesnt even win there so still he never got his revenge until pyramid of light
@@BigDaddyRich69 Yeah it was a draw from what Alister pulled. I want to say if remember right he did the same thing that Valon did to interrupt the duel between Mai and Joey.
This, I was confused by his reasoning of disliking the Duel because of this. There are legitimate issues with the film otherwise, but his main reasoning is actually false. In fact, there are several errors in his analysis due to lack of comprehension of the events occurring. Such as his misunderstanding of what happened to Neos in Bonds Beyond Time. Paradox didn't steal Neos, Neos was vanishing as it the flow of time was fucking up and Paradox's plan would have made it so that Neos would have never existed.
Thank you Alister was impersonating Pegasus just to duel Kabia
Two things I loved about DSOD was Yugi's major confidence boost. This is the king of games here. He stepped up to duel Aigami and then immediately switched up to give Kaiba the business.
Second, Yugi's endgame strategy was just like what he did with Atem too but with a little change. For Atem, he negated monster reborn to show the dead no longer needed to linger in the world of the living. But for Kaiba, Yugi gave him his monster reborn to show that they're now in opposite positions. Where Kaiba talked of moving on and not obsessing over the past, here he is clawing at a chance to get back the pharaoh while Yugi is choosing to look ahead and live the life he wished for when he first put the puzzle together.
The scene where Yugi tells Kaiba to back off and let him deal with the threat to his friends first before he'll even entertain dueling Kaiba is one of my favourite scenes in the movie. It's a very nice encapsulation of Yugi's character development and shows how he can now match Yami's ferocity when he needs to.
I always thought it would have been cool if instead of the 3 protagonists fighting together they each fight him in their own times and instead the movie goes back and forth showing the duels and paradox would be using monsters from the other times, ie yugi vs paradox with malefic stardust and synchros, yusei vs paradox with malefic fusions and jaden vs the classic dm malefic monsters. It would also be cool if the 3 protagonists all won the duels by the same method like a destiny draw or something.
... Actually that wasn't Pegasus in Waking the Dragon, it was Alister. Also, Paradox never stole Neos; he just ran away plotting to now go after Pegasus and kill him. And Paradox connects back to 5d's with Z-ONE. Plus, Yusei wouldn't agree as that means Neo Domino ceases to exist as does his friends. But I agree, Bonds Beyond Time is great but B? And we did get Judai vs Yugi in Season 4... SHAME IT WAS NEVER DUBBED.
... B? Hmm... okay. I do like the illustration as Kaiba was able to move on and Yugi began to move to his future too.
Kazuki Takahashi died a hero.
Proof that his will with his creations was always good.
Giving a message of friendship to everyone.
About DSOD ending though...
What happens is that Yugi and Kaiba were never able to stand against the darkness alone, without a Millenium Item, that was always the condition.
The puzzle obeys Atem, Yugi being his vessel, Yugi can move on by himself, he could've even won against D. Va, but he has no resistance to darkness.
It is Kaiba's faith, in being able to duel Atem, as an individual, once more, that he knew that Yugi could bring him back, and he did...
Atem came, not the same way as he did before, he came with all his might and glory, never said a word, and then took the millenium items away for good.
It was foreshadowed in the movie, that Atem had to come back, to take away the powers that remained after he departed, but only if those powers got carried away, and used for evil, because they were the blessing left, to make a better world.
The manga ending makes this even better, because Kaiba wasn't there, so grudges were left, Atem wasn't really allowed to go, unlike the anime, in which Kaiba was there, and let him go in peace.
Kaiba ends respecting Yugi in this movie, but Atem is a different entity, and when he unlocks the powers of the 8th Millenium Item, he integrates it to his Duel Links technology, to go to the afterlife, nothing really says that Kaiba can't survive it, with the 8th item, only without it, it would mean death.
So the 4 years later ending can happen, and would be even more meaningful, if Kaiba is in peace, with Yugi as himself, and Atem.
I do wanna defend Atem’s return. Just a bit.
I feel it made some sense because while yes, he’s in the afterlife, Anubis probably let him return because the entirety of their dimension was being destroyed, afterlife included, which would also harm Atem’s afterlife, so I saw it as a means of, saying true final goodbyes to everyone, and helping finish off what Yugi couldn’t. Because he only appeared because Yugi lost consciousness. To give an example from earlier, think of Joey V Marek. Joey was going to win, but lost consciousness and because of that lost, Yugi, in a similar situation with higher stakes, Atem stepped in and only finished the job, he didn’t do anything else really.
But that’s just my POV on that movie. Stay safe, and have fun.
.... still a bullshit cop out of an ending
I just found your channel and one of your videos you were saying that you upload not so frequently because it takes you a while to make these and then BOOM you upload a video today. I grew up with yugioh like all of you so finding out all these new things on your channel really feel special. Like bonus childhood feelings. Anyways I appreciate your hard work seriously and don’t stop the yugioh videos.
Thank you so much!
@@EnigmaAnime yessir
That duel with Pegasus in the Waking the Dragons shouldn't really count since that Pegasus was just Alister in disguise.
Is that pokemon mystery dungeon music in the background ❤️. Love that pokemon spin-off series.
I think the merits of DSOD out ways the negatives. It's by far the best Yu-Gi-Oh movie we have gotten with far better animation, a more grounded story, and a good 2 hour watch length that would have no reason to be put to D tier regardless of how you felt about the ending. A hot take but I'd put DSOD at high A tier and I prefer the Japanese sub way over the English dub version. I prefer the Japanese voice actors overall and I felt like the dialogue between Aigami was methodical making the premise seem mature about the lesson Shadi teaches to Aigami and what essentially is what the film touches upon "How Fear Turns Into Hate". I Think a lot of people bypass the important things and only focus on the problem of the Pharaoh coming back at the end, which I will admit, I see exactly why that is a problem as it ruins the weight of Yugi's moment of being the one True King, but this is seriously at least a High B tier or High A tier movie. I think your take on liking preferring dub of it more is uh...interesting to say the least 😅 but the sub for me is where I preferred the movie.
Nah putting bonds beyond time and dark side dimensions in B is a crime but its your tier list
The nothing above B tier made me lose my mind
Pyramid of light is still the best,closely followed by dsod,but his list so its okay to be wrong
Bonds Beyond time is mid 🗿
@@RabbitsparklingWrong.
@@BigDaddyRich69 right i haven't watched light so i couldn't say
His videos are really underrated
LETS GOOOO FINALLY SOMEONE DOES IT
in waking the dragons, kaiba doesnt duel pegasus, he duels the oricalcos guy who starts the duel in pegasus cosplay
Never cared that much for Bonds Beyond Time since it's an epitome of what I've seen in Toku crossover films. Mainly fanservice with subpar plot, even if this one happens to co-exists with 5D's story.
DSOD I treasure for being the best quality of a Yugioh movie and wasn't really bothered by Atem returning.
Did it felt cheesy? *Sure.* Was it necessary? *...Yes.*
The 1999 movie actually sounded like a good idea I feel like if shogo was actually at the forefront of the movie and actually dueled it may have been pretty good you could even have him loose at the end but learn that that’s not the end of the world and maybe yugi could win his red eyes back for him
Wait am I wrong or wasn’t it Allister that Kaiba actually fueled in Waking the Dragons? And he was disguised as Pegasus?
No, you're correct. And since he was an imposter/cosplayer, in my mind it doesn't count as a true Kaiba v Pegasus. And even if you wanted to make an argument for it, Kaiba also didn't win that duel. It ended in a draw.
I wish for a new Yu-Gi-Oh! movie.
Vrain- Arc-v and Zeal
@@themoonlitduelist7395 What about them?
@@heroboygamebase2286 Ppl said that, at the end of vrains they should have made a new ygo moive with all 3 of those series
@@themoonlitduelist7395Like Bonds Beyond Time?
Love the video! Keep killing it my man.
Thank you!
Darts: only if destroying an innocent soul concerns you
Kaiba: nah, as a CEO of a mayor company i do this every day
The Kaiba and “Pegasus” duel in the filler arc was not an actual duel against Pegasus it was a duel against Aliester disguised as Pegasus. The argument makes no sense.
really wish they went back to toei after galop dropted the series, it wouldnt look nearly as atrotious
I love DSoD ending. I don't mind Atem come at the end, I attribute it as a final gesture for YuGiOh as a whole. As for Kaiba, to fight Atem is his dream, and no matter whoever said that he can't come back, he will think of a way because "Nobody is as brilliant as Seto Kaiba!"
In conclusion, DSoD is rank S all the way.
2 things:
- Capsule Monsters is actually based on a previous game that was in Season 0 and the manga of Capsule Monsters Chess. It’s a game Mokuba is very good at.
- BBT actually has major impact on 5D’s story in particular as Paradox is actually one of the 4 last surviving people of Earth that came back to the past to stop the end of the world… or somewhat. Aporia, Paradox and Antimony are actually robots Z-ONE made to recreate his last friends after they each died. Each was given a mission to change the future in different ways, hoping that one of those plans would eventually succeed - Paradox to erase Duel Monsters from History, Aporia to make Synchro Monsters no longer viable to play, and Antimony to evolve Synchro Monsters into a form that can ultimately overpower the crisis of the Future if it became widely played. Z-ONE holding one final plan if all else failed - of crashing the Arc Cradle into Neo Domino in order to stop research on Ener-D and possibly make people to scared to use Synchro Monsters in general in order to stop them from generating Ener-D.
I’d also want to note that the Season 0 movie, Pyramid of Light and Capsule Monsters are more or less non-canon because they just can’t fit into the timeline. BBT is hard to fit into the YGO Timeline, but considering Battle City 2 is just a single day tournament that Pegasus hosted, it’s a lot easier to explain happening than the others and does seem to happen after the Oricalchos arc, which Pyramid of Light doesn’t make sense to be after that, or just after Battle City as they were supposed to have left for America…
I know its easy to compare but Kiaba and Yugi always felt a bit like a reflection of L and Light from Deathnote. In a way they both play games that often involve mind games or trickery and trying to prove who is number one without using physical force, while one person is a bit more chill then the other.
Every now and then I get reminded about how much this has influenced our culture. Even in the MMA at a live event when one guy destroys another Joe Rogan says he has been sent to the shadow rhealm. I'm sure Joe is not a fan but he can't describe what he wants to say as perfectly without referencing this series
I think Atem returns in the end of DSOD because, despite yugi been a better duelist, he is a normal human, and cant deal alone with dark /evil forces. But Yugi did beat Aigami in a fair game and was, at least, toe to toe with Kaiba. I didnt liked it tho that they made their battle unconclusive
I remember watching DSOD in cinemas and I was on the edge of my seat hoping that Atem would make a return. I think it's something a lot of the fanbase wanted to see again just for hype and nostalgia and it didn't disappoint. At the end of the day it's an anime movie, most aren't canon and I didn't feel it was deep enough to take away from Yugi's accomplishments, I personally think DSOD showcased how strong Yugi is while also rewarding the fans with Atem's appearance at the same time
"most aren't canon"
??? Is this meant to be a "at least this is canon, so I can give it some slack" or...? Because this one was explicitly marketed as being such.
@@lpfan4491 no, I meant that most anime movies in general aren’t canon to their source. Iirc this video said something about how the story of DSOD messes with the Yugioh timeline and it just was something I saw differently
Atems spirit returning makes perfect sense, his spirit is tied to the millinuem puzzle. Him, Shadi, and bandit king bakuras souls are al tied to the millinuem items. While Atem is in the afterlife, he is still tied to the millinuem puzzle, the same as bakura with the ring. Also if you would remember that fully completing the puzzle grants the wearer 1 wish, which when yugi is fainting and says he's sorry in his head, he was more then likely wishing for a way to win. or even wishing for atem himself as literal moments before kaibas dying words were "Call him". see nothing really wrong with this ending
I always assumed the reason Atem was able to come back for that moment had to do with the those kids who would disappear and reappear, like Aigami had ripped open the border between the living and after life. And Yugi was gonna win against Kaiba based on what cards were in play, and he was gonna win against the big bad but magic happened. So I didn't feel like it undercut
The Digimon Adventure film is perfect as a 20 minute short.
It tells a complete story without dragging on and is perfectly paced to the song Bolero.
Sadly the American dub of "Digimon the Movie" ruined it by adding constant annoying narration and dialog, removing Bolero, and stitching it to two seperate heavily edited movies.
I dont think your opinion of english Kaiba is too biased. Eric Stewart, the voice of Kaiba in the English dub, once said that the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh, Kazuki Takahashi, told him he was his favorite version of Kaiba. So, That's one hell of an honor.
Rest in peace Kazuki... The true king of games. 😢
It is really hard to imagine an englich Yu-gi-oh anything without that Kaiba voice, it would have to be reprised by him or a voice double even in material unrelated to 4K-Yu-gi-oh, like if the manga got a faithful adaptation at some point.
@@lpfan4491 If only they'd completed the uncut dub.
Amazing job buddy
Thanks!
@@EnigmaAnime no problem
Yugioh 1999 is peak Yugioh
Considering that Kaiba's sheer willpower was enough to manifest Obelisk, I choose to believe he was able to return after dueling Atem. Because he's Seto freaking Kaiba.
27:30 "the only other movie takahashi was going to write was canceled because it would undercut the manga ending, I guess he stopped caring" that's not how it works. It's not like Takahashi stopped caring, or that he suddenly realized how bad the ending of the previous movie was when he posted that illustration. thing is, big companies (in particular, what's called a "commitee", just a bunch of rich guys is suits) have control on everything. so what happened is to have takahashi write a movie to apply his name on it, because it's good advertising to have "the original author" and all that, but they still have decisional, production and creative control on everything.
they probably wanted Atem to be in the movie because they tought it would be more interesting to audiences.
the fact takahashi refused to write a second movie just because it would undermine the original manga just shows how much he actually cared.
Honestly I would put Darkside up one tier or at least above Bonds but otherwise... I completely agree with this list. I did find it very odd that they brought the pharaoh back for the ending but at least they didn't share any words, just a silent nod to say goodbye respectfully for the final time as closure. If they had them actually talk however, I would have certainly agreed more with your listing since that would uncut the ending to the original series even more to the point where it's completely disrespectful.
Also the fact that when the pharaoh leaves for good at the end, he takes ALL of the items with him to say "yeah... this world doesn't need this power anymore, imma bring it with me where it belongs" is so good to me. A perfect way to tie all and any loose ends up for the original series for good
DSOD is the best yugioh movie and the ending was more than fine in my in my own and my wife's opinion. my biggest complaint was the spirit of the millennium ring didn't possess Bakura
"I haven't seen most of them"
Shows Joey's blind sister: 💀
Dark Side of Dimensions is not only the best Yu-Gi-Oh! movie, it's the best Yu-Gi-Oh! period. It's Kazuki Takahashi's magnum opus for the series before his untimely death. Placement is wild.
The Plana told Kaiba he'd be trapped in the afterlife, but they also told him other things that he proved wrong. He didn't commit suicide or die; he defied death and crossed the border. That's what Kaiba's character was always about; defying fate and doing the impossible. His conflict with Yugi/Atem in Battle City where he lost was that he was going to forsake his past in the process, and Atem showed him otherwise; then when he died Kaiba couldn't let go of the past. Earlier in the movie Kaiba used his technology to reject the energy of Plana, which was "impossible", and as Kaiba is walking through the afterlife he's wrapped in heavy particles from that technology stuff. He's not being sucked into the afterlife, he's walking through it despite the rules, not in accordance with them. And why? Because Kaiba, the outside, the antagonist, was more motivated by the bonds of friendship than any other.
In the final duel, Kaiba held onto his past, but embraced the future. He was going to erase the future by forcing Yugi to become Atem, the same mistake as before, and in the closing of his duel with Yugi, with the un-activated set card, he realized he was about to do the same thing he was trying to do before in Battle City and chose not to on his own and accepted defeat rather than lose in victory. In the double duel with the possessed Aigami he completed his franchise-long character arc and had faith in friendship, even when he couldn't see anything tangible in it, and had fath, accepting both the past and future, and the magic of the Millenium Puzzle, "The Power of Bonds" answered and did the impossible to call forth Atem, just as Kaiba called for Obelisk. His faith was never misplaced, he *knew* that, and he accepted both the past and future, and continued to strive towards the impossible, and in his enlightenment even death was conquered, even as he won by surrendering. There's likely Japanese Buddhist ideals at play here. Kaiba's intelligence/technology and emotional development two forms of wisdom on the path to enlightenment, Nirvana, in which on surpasses the cycle of karma, life and death. 'Transcend Game' which explores Kaiba's creation of the Crystal Cloud Network ties into this reading as well; through it Kaiba becomes connected to everyone's mind, and his soul/mind bears tremendous strength. In the movie he also talks about knowing everything that happens in Domino, like he's almost omniscient and all-seeing.
It's not just about Atem, either; Priest Seto's arc had him separated from Kisara by death; he's conquering that too; that which in a way Kisara/Blue-Eyes itself conquered to be with Kaiba again after thousands of years... if in the form of a card, and a dragon.
Genuinely, it's the best ending possible; I was nervous about them touching the concluded story at all, but it blew away my expectations. The possessed Aigami was the last vestige of Zorc, and so not either Kaiba or Yugi's enemy, but Atem's. Atem is something of a god now, and his presence and answer coalesced all character arcs and plotlines, which the mere revival of Egyptian magic dredged up again; if there was still Egyptian magic in the world Atem's story was not yet done. He also showed that he isn't gone, and continues to live in their hearts and memories, and that death isn't the end, and that he continues to watch over them.
The future of Kaiba and Yugi playing games in space is not one the movie rejects, it is just as Kishimoto said; a possible future after the conclusion of the film; which is kind of an open way of saying that's what Kishimoto imagines, but it's open ("possible") if they ever want to expand again (which they won't), not that Kaiba is trapped in the afterlife, lol. There's no way Mokuba just happily watched his brother kill himself, lmao
We don't see the duel at the end between Atem and Kaiba because it doesn't matter who won. It doesn't matter to Kaiba anymore either; that's not what's important--it's the whole point of his character arc that it's not what's important.
Nice ranking. DSOD really took the icing of the cake with Atem returning in a quick final transformation against Corrupted Aigami
Not gonna lie, DSOD was an amazing way to end Yu-Gi-Oh DM. I was left disappointed the way it ended in the anime. Atem leaves, everyone cries, and that’s it. It was sudden and nobody really got the closure they needed.
I don’t think Atem returning undermines Yugi’s character at ALL. To clarify (and I know DSOD is leaning more towards the manga) the Millennium Ring held the spirit of Zorc The Dark and it took over Aigami. With that in mind, this darkness and ancient being is no match for the likes of modern mortals with no mystical powers whatsoever. They were put right back into a dimensional shadow game. End of the day, it’s Atem’s duty as Pharaoh to banish that evil. I was happy seeing Yugi getting the closure he needed, knowing that Atem hasn’t forgotten him.
Kaiba’s ending was top fkn tier. It was badass! My mans went back 5000 years because he knew that man was the King of Games, his number one rival and there’s no replacing that. They too had their own connection from past/present. Atem couldn’t come back to the future the way he needed him to, so he said fuck that I’m coming to you. Now that’s Bonds beyond time!
It’s a S Rank for me! RIP Kazuki Takahashi ♥️
Correction: In the Waking the Dragons arc, Dartz's henchman Alister was the one who dueled Kaiba while pretending to be Pegasus. It wasn't Pegasus himself.
Also, Alexander "died mysteriously"? Wasn't it ever said that he drank himself to death?
I feel like Kaiba wins his afterlife rematch against Atem, who pulls some Horakhty strings to get him sent back. However, when he returns and Mokuba asks him how it turned out, he pauses with the fresh memory of the duel in his mind and just says "... Let's go, Mokuba." Only Mokuba knows he ever tried, but Kaiba keeps the truth and that memory close to his heart for the rest of his life.
*ALSO KIND OF FUNNY THAT THEY GLOSS OVER THE FACT THAT KAIBA HAS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THE EXISTENCE OF THE AFTERLIFE HOLY SHIT*
A friend told me that Takahashi said in one interview, after DSOD released, he wanted to include more stuffs in the movie but was not able due to money and time constrains so he "continued" the lore in Duel Links, whenever a DSOD character had a voice line when using a card e.g. Yugi summoning Berry Magician Girl or Joey summoning Alternative Red-Eyes Dragon is considered canon because they were supposed to have in their decks the voiced cards. I have not been able to find that interview because since Takahashi passed away the internet have been floodgated with news about his passing so if I find something about it I'll edit my comment, if I'm lying about it or if you find something about it, feel free to roast me or let me know :D
Positive comment
Unlike his review lmao
@@BigDaddyRich69because... it's an opinion.
@@LucaAbele and its... Wrong
In DSOD it is set up from the moment Shadi gives access to the plana to Aigami and the other children after saving them, that the pharaoh will return in the movie(Chekovs' gun). The only way to defeat the plana is to strip them of it, the only way for that to happen is for the pharaoh to return once again. Then what happens? No words are spoken, no one else witnessed the pharaoh return except yugi, and the. To ensure he will never be revived he takes the puzzle with him and Yugi gets to have one last goodbye to his closest friend that doesn't feel rushed so we can end the episode.
I have an idea for a new Yu-Gi-Oh! story. It would not only be a reimagining/reboot of the original story where it primarily focus on Yugi, Yami Yugi/Atem, Joey, Kaiba and rest again, but it would also combine all the characters, elements and locations from all the other series, and put them all in one unified world. Like have each city represent either a different dueling style or a different summoning method, like in this version, the city of Satellite would be home to both Turbo Dueling and Synchro Summoning and Heartland City would be home to both Augmented Reality Dueling. While I would keep characters like Yugi, Yami, Joey, Kaiba as certain characters, but have the characters from the other series either be rivals to them or some even joining the cast in the long run, like for example, having characters like Jaden Yuki, Crow Hogan or Anna Kaboom join Yugi and Joey's friend group. Speaking of Anna, we unfortunately didn't get to see much of her despite being an awesome and even funny character with a pretty cool Train deck, so it would be a great idea to have her and other fan favorite characters that didn't get much screen time in the past and give them more of a chance to shine as characters. It would also be cool to see characters like Yugi, Joey and Kaiba wanting to adapt to these newer summoning methods in order to become stronger duelists in whatever new location their in. What do you guys think of that for a potential Yu-Gi-Oh! story?
so basically you want to rewrite Arc-V again
@@gyppygirl2021 Well honestly after actually watching Arc-V just a little while back, I think it be might be cool to try this legacy character again, but also have this series serve as a reboot of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! and as a celebration of the entire franchise in some way. Maybe I won’t do it after all, but I think it’s just a fun what if? idea for a Yu-Gi-Oh! reboot, you know.
@@superstitch5618 Yeah, that's fair, I was mostly joking :p
So heres a few counter points that really change things. The first is that E HERO Neos doesnt get stolen away to become Sin Neos, but because as Paradox left, he succeeded and killed Pegasus, causing a ripple since I'm assuming the events of the movie take place Before Pyramid of Light. Since in that movie Pegasus even states hes retired, and yet the event was to showcase new cards. You also talk about s4 of Gx never getting dubbed but firget to mention how theres a slew of episodes, about 10 or 11 that never got dubbed during the WGRP, As well as the 5th season. BBT actually plays a pivotal role as in Jpn, 5ds was about to face Team Unicorn and it was confirmed that Dragon Knight, Draco-equaste was Yusei remembering Jaden using Neos Knight with his Junk Gardna.
Your reasons for hatinf DDoS are certainly fair, but you also lack the understanding of the story. A Yugituber deduced Kaiba had lost the duel as his set card was Polymerization, a dead card. Kaibe even smirks as the attack is coming at him because he knew in that moment he lost.
Going to your point about the Pharaoh randomly coming back to life to help out being a means of undercutting the story, it really isnt. It does seem that way at a glance til you look at the bigger picture. Up until that moment it was all Yugi, it was him vs Aigami and Kaiba, using a deck HE had built. Yugi's always had the potential to be a great duelist, but yes the Pharoah did actually hold him back a fair bit. Especially during the filler virtual world arc where one shouldnt have been in cyber space to begin with.
Atem coming back to help save the day was earned because Yugi had been fighting the battles himself. It wouldve been a way to undermine the original story IF Atem came back during Yugi's first duel against Aigami.
And it's kinda weird to think that Kaiba wouldnt have returned from the Afterlife because HOW the hell does he appear in GX to give us the Most Kaiba line to ever have been Kaiba'd?
Dark Side of Dimensions is such a chef's kiss as the end of Yugi's story in my opinion. I love it to bits. I also thought that the "return" of Atem was ruining it but as someone else was pointing out. It wasn't really a duel Atem was saving them from, but an eldrich being of unimaginable horror :P
The moment that stuck with me is the moment where Kaiba duels the villain in the tomb and is supposedly locked out from using monsters. In the climax of the duel he summons Obelisk from the depths of the tomb. "But your monster can't use its abilities." Aigami's voice trembles. Kaiba smuggly retorts "It's not a monster. it's a God!". Goddamn it still gives me chills. Not only was it badass, it reminded me of LittleKuriboh's Abridged series as that moment is a clear moment of "Screw the rules, he's a god!" I love it to no end..
Capsule Monsters was a 12 episode series but it was very good. I love it
I'm the same exact way. I try to get into the other animes, but nothing quite catches me the same way the original does, but I love watching the movies.
Another interesting fact about bonds beyond time is it’s also canon because paradox was colleagues with z-one, antimony, and aporia. He was a cyborg sent from the timeline the Meklord genocide took place. He was also in 5ds in a part where Yusei remembers everyone along the way before he attacks z-one with stardust Dragon and wins
In waking the dragons it wasnt actually Pegasus that Kaiba dueled it was alister
Yugi was beating dark Aigami at the end but he couldn’t survive the Shadow Game. Magic countering magic has always been an important part of the story.
I am sorry, but by all means Kaiba's duel with Yugi was not interrupted. The duel had already finished with Yugi's victory and there are no ambiguities left about the outcome of the duel.
Kaiba did not lose the final duel against Aigami. He got what he wanted. He gave his life to be right, he bet his life that he was right. He was so confident in his conviction, that he knew the pharoah would be back. If Kaiba had beaten Aigami, he would not have won. Yugi lost to Aigami, so the pharaoh saved him. That's why Kaiba died/went back in time/transcended to see the pharoah again.
Themes man, they're important.
Also, it establishes the pecking order: Yugi < Pharoah. It's unknown who's greater between Seto Kaiba and the Pharoah. That's the point of the ending.
Also, it's fucking S(e)+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++(Etc)o tier.
also, i don't care about this point as much, but Kaiba faced Allister, not Pegasus in Waking the Dragons. Pyramid of Light was needed to settle the score. Seto Kaiba is the embodiment of the desperate romanticism of yugioh.
Nahh I don't think yughi would of lost he would of clutch it
Kaiba lost to Yugi. His final set card was Polymerization, the lights going out only saved his lifepoints from hitting 0. So the order is still Yugi > Pharoah > Kaiba.
@@cheyguy1211 the last card he played face-down (i think it was in the first turn, could be wrong) was poly. with how his ego driven duel disc works, we have no idea if it was still poly. in Kaiba's first duel against aigami, we already saw Kaiba could do the impossible. hell, that's what the movie was about.
Aw I was rooting for Shogo. There’s a keen sense of relatability in a character like that. What a missed opportunity.
I don't really agree with the duel vs. Pegasus being cheapened by the waking the dragon arch considering that Kaiba didn't actually duel Peagasus, just someone disguised as him and using his deck.
This is such a fire format. A review/retrospective and a tier list but you've added the film to the list after you review it as opposed to the end
8:15 i know its jokes but i don't think it was laziness i think the whole animanga format back then was more so tryna get those last few standouts in america (where i live so no shade) that wanted/were used to seeing comics in color.
I hope you enjoyed the video!
Minor error here but 4Kids had nothing to do with DSOD, mostly cause they went under way before the movie came out. It was all 4KEntertaiment
I like The Dark Side of Dimensions better, because it is great to see the original cast again after the events Duel Monsters.
honestly great job, fair reviews in the end, i think yugioh DSOD deserved to be in A maybe S tier, mainly because takahashi did write the film, but also i kinda disagree on hating atems revival as while yes it can be seen as a cheap cameo from a beloved character of the series, in the end it was to save yugi with egyptian magic, not win a card game, something atem always did for yugi, yugi dueled all himself and won against aigami and kaiba, also the ending for kaiba while i do agree kinda silly he killed himself just to duel with atem, end of the day its kaiba, hes gotta prove hes at least better than atem, he never truly beat him, i think kaiba in the end agreed that yugi is now the true king of games after defeating atem, but see this as kaiba thinking, if kaiba cant be the best at dueling on earth, he can at least be the best at dueling in egyptian afterlife. Again silly yes, but hey its kaiba, gotta love him!
Yugi's 1v1 duels in DSOD are crazy to me because of how badly he smokes his opponents in both of them. Aigami loses to a combo that makes him basically attack himself over and over, and Kaiba, very fittingly, is brought down precisely by his drive to revive Atem, and his tunnel vision on using the Monster Reborn card Yugi gave him during the duel (also calling back to how he beat Atem in the first place). Yugi played both of them like a fiddle in terms of strategy.
As for the duel with Dark Aigami, all Atem did was be a conscious duelist long enough to follow through on Yugi's play (Also to counter the fact that Aigami at this point was consumed by the lingering darkness within the Millennium Ring so it might as well have been Zorc's last attempt at world destruction).
What would make that moment better is if Yugi drew the card BEFORE fainting, so when Atem shows up, he already has Palladium Oracle Mahad in his hand instead of it feeling like he just generated the card out of thin air.
The way they had Atem return was almost the best way they could've done it. It's just a shame the Prana's lore and plot line is what basically made his return mandatory in the first place to resolve their story. They at least made sure to keep Yugi's character development intact. He never once was the one to try and bring Atem back in this movie, no matter how much he probably wanted to. He was ready to move on.
2 things to note about Pyramid of Light. First Kaiba fought a "fake" Pegasus in Waking the Dragons which undermines it compared to the movie's rematch. Second is Pegasus made a Blue-Eyes card that can defeat the Egyptian God Cards, but the Pyramid of Light card was added by Anubis.
Between Dungeon Dice Monsters and Capsule Monsters, they're not very good at advertising anything that's not the card game. DDM only got one battle to see what it's like, and in CM they don't really show how the game is played. They only sell the concept of it, but I don't think that's enough. Well, not when you have a competitor like Pokemon to consider.
From a narrative perspective, I think the reason Paradox doesn't challenge Yusei too much is because he's part of a larger team of villains, and most of them will challenge Yusei in the same ways. Paradox would've stolen the main series' thunder.
Pyramid of Light was the first, and currently only Yugioh movie I saw. The hype was bursting at the seams for my and my friends who grew up playing the game from launch.
Something to make note of is that Kaiba didn't face Pegasus in Waking the Dragons. He dueled someone who had taken Pegasus' deck and disguised himself to fool Kaiba.
Once our favorite rival figured this out, the outfit snd deck changed, so I wouldn't call that a rematch.
In my personal opinion, the final movie pissed me off for the same reason you mentioned the undermined yugis final win against the pharaoh in the anime/manga, instead of the pharaoh coming back and saving the day at the last minute they should have had yugi almost collapse as he fell and pick himself back up due to a memory of the pharaoh and get a strong resolve to beat aigami
Ugh god cry harder nerd. I swear you autists screeching about atem being back for like 1 minute of scream time and ignoring everything else Yugi went through are ironically the ones missing the point 😂
I'm hoping for meaning in Duraludon originating from Galar and evolving in Unova, the same as Applin. A Legends game about a Galarian-Unovan war that split the regions (and perhaps the original Kyurem) would be so satisfying.
12:26 it’s like they plucked it in season five which makes an extended cut of season five
Wow the revelation that i swapped hands from bandai to konami is crazy. Seeing as they very often work together.
Then again back then it was just bandai and not bandai namco so maybe things were a bit different
"Nobody actually quits yugioh. We just take long breaks" This is SOOO true lol.. I've been into yugioh for 22 years. Started when I was 6 years old. was religiously obsessed until I was like 16. got put off after gen 3. but still come back for the old school stuff.
Hell, i love it so much I even made one of the most popular tabletop simulator mods for Yugioh Duelists of the roses (The old PS2 classic)
Something neat about the 1999 movie is that it had the building blocks of the Duel Monsters series - we see the first duel disk system, the “original” blue eyes ultimate dragon, yugi and kaiba (especially kaiba) look a lot like their DM S1 counterparts, and more
When kaiba dueled pegasus in waking the dragons. That wasn’t actually pegasus. It was one of Dartz’s minions that had a grudge on kaiba dueling him exactly as it happened in duelist kingdom.
@enigma, please continue to create in depth and really interesting videos.
honestly I just thought that the pharaoh's return in DSOD was not a real version of him, merely a non-corporeal vision of him still connected to the millennium puzzle, and when he disintegrated the puzzle, that was his way of closing that potential off permanently.
Paradox never stole E-HERO Neos. He was there because he stole Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon (and possibly Atticus' Red-Eyes Black Dragon, though he could have stolen Joey's Red-Eyes instead, or both, but this one was never confirmed) and he was fighting off Judai, as Juday tracked him down to recover his friends' cards.
Tgs anime reconstructed the yugi v. Kaiba duel from dsod, and determined that kaiba bricked.
Aside from that, didn't we kinda know atem would return? I mean, it was specifically mentioned in the movie that the plana's (pardon spelling, I don't have time to look it up) power would disappear if atem did return. Then agami set out to stop it from happening. Old trope of someone meeting destiny on the road to avoid it, etc etc.
👍❤
25:35 like the shadow realms, “heart of the cards”, and yelling yugioh!,
I really enjoyed this video, I have some slight disagreements on DSOD but I do agree the whole background plot could've been executed a lot better. I still think the most beautiful line Eric Stewart has ever delivered is "For him... The Pharoah" and I think the ending of he and Atem reuniting is really just the ultimate way to end a character like Kaiba's story. One of the greatest anti-heroes in fiction so stubborn that he abandons everything to reunite with his spiritual rival.
I get what you're saying about DsOD. But honestly, that return was so freaking awesome, and filled the hole in my heart from when the pharaoh left. The series wasn't the same without him. And I feel like he was in a way just taking care of old business. Bakura was HIS old enemy. Not Yugi or Kaiba's. It seems right to me that he should finish him off.
I kinda hope Miho shows up somewhere in the future as a neat deep cut reference.
The Pyramid of Light movie is what introduced me to Yugioh and the first card I ever got was Sorcerer of Dark Magic....Even if the movie sucks, it still holds a dear place in my heart.
Actually Yugi won the duel vs Kaiba in Dark Side of Dimensions. If you look at the actual duel and track their life points, Dark Magician attacks Kaiba directly while he only has 2500 LP left exactly. And then his lifepoints start dropping, he closes his eyes for a moment, opens them and smiles. Yugi *did* win. The duel was interrupted at the last possible second to rob Kaiba of his catharsis.
The first couple movies focused on promoting the game and very specific cards that were given out or sold as promos. They were a limited number of new cards and not relaly a full deck or archtype. BBT stepped it up a bit by doing this with the protagonists cards but also introducing the Malefic archtype. They clearly wanted to inject the promoted sales of an entire new decks worth of cards into the movie which is why they put so much time into that one duel. The interesting thing is how intent plays a part..its clear DSoD was made more as a love letter to the series by its creator and focused more on the story. It didn't just hace the one giant duel..and yet..he still sucessfully advertised much more than BBT did with the introduction of the Chaos Max Archtype, several new Blue-eyes and Dark magician cards, several retrians of old classic cards, the Fruit Magician Girl sub-Archtype, and the Cubic archtype. Granted, DSoD was over double the length but BBT could never get to that length because rhe focus was promoting the featured cards over anything else. It was an ad and thus had to be written as an ad. DSoD was written as a story first that just so happened to incorporate everything needed to achieve the same goal as BBT as a side effect. It really is a lesson on how intent can really matter when bit comes to the overal quality of the end result while meeting the same bullet goals and more.
I also have yo say I had never heard of the proposed Yugi Jaden duel movie but now that I know it, who was involved and the reasoning..DSoD means a WHOLE lost more! It also most even sounds a bit like an exagerated retelling of that begind the scenes story. The fact Kaiba wants to resurrect the Pharoah but even when the supposed conditions are met, it is proven he CANT come back since he is where he needs to be; is so poinent. Kaiba has to come to terms with that and ultimatly has to move on..literally..to face the OG he rivaled but in more intiment terms with the public never finding it the results..sounds a lot like the creator of YGO and GX mixed with their protagonists and repackaged as the Pahroah and Kiaba, dosn't it? I don't agree with you and feel the inclusion if the Pharoah at the end doesn't change anything for him but is the true end to manga Kaiba's story.
In the manga, there is a lot more focus on Kaiba being a reincarnation if his past self who has degraded due to his retention on earth. He even forgets why he refused to move on, obsessing over the blue eyes but not recognizing it as just a symbol of Kissara. The anime had Kaiba witness the events of the past but he never got that closer in the manga. Further, Takahashi said he wanted to make the Seto reincarnation elements an even larger part of the story but had to cut that. That is part of why the anime just has Kaiba involved in the millenium world instead. We know Seto refused to move on fully because he felt Kissara would not be on the other side. We know this causes his soul strife. We also know it split his soul (a reaccyring theme in the series) as his high priest form is shown in the afterlife, waiting for Atem as his servant. The full Pharoanic part that would come after, remains on earth however. There is ten a part of the early manga that infers this. When Yugi first meets Shadi in the manga, he is visiting a museum where an egyptian exist it is and he had lent the Puzzle. A friend of Soloman has promised to study it while on display to try and give yugi more info but the curator palns to "lose" it and sell it on the black market, which brings Shadi in. The existing itself is not of the lost Pharaohs tomb as that is still impossible to get through alive save solomon Muto. It is however, from the kingdom immediatly after and thus close enough to be of relavance on display. Anyone who read millenium world knows that Seto, as Atem's cousin, served after him as Pharoah. Yugi sees Shadi standing in front of a display and weeking but with a strait face. He asks if the odd man is ok and Shadi explains the tears are not his but thos of the mummified Pharoah before them. We see a lengthy adumt mummy and he explains the displaced kings soul is in suffering, bound yo earth where it does not belong and he is both unable to move on nor cry. He thus cries on behalf of the ancient lord. While I don't feel this initially was intended to be Seto, it seems to clearly fit the story thar would be written later, seemingly in part around this. Seto remained in a cycle of reincarnation because he did not want to move on without his murdered love..this only occured because of Zorc and the events that killed/trapped the pahorahs soul. He only became Pharoah as a result of this too. Atem finally resolved those events for hismelf but Seto's spirit remains. It has evolved in its time on earth however and turns to the challenge of thw Pharoah as its passion over Kissara..this eventually leads him to yearn to be EXACTLY WHERE HIS SOUL BELONGS and seek out Atem in the special afterlife for Pharoahs and their servents that we saw at the end of the Manga. The movie just ties that one last loose string and ensures that Seto finally finds rest. What's interesting is that each timeline closed a final door later but leaves the other open. Seto finally rests in the end of the manga version but Tragodeo is never resolved. Mahado was not the first owner of the ring but rather another past resident of Cul Elna. In the millenium rold arch it was revealed the ring turned the orgional priest to madness and he was killed. Shimon Muran as the next most spiritually resolute priest, set aside his own item and Exodia to bear the weight of the ring long enough to use it to find the next host..Mohado. He stated that he luckily found the young magician very quickly as he already felt its influence corrupting him in that short time. In GX, the lost priest is revealed to have been a member of the city of thieves who was a gifted astrologer. Atems gather had him hired to the palace as an act of diplomatic good faith to the neighboring city. It was years later that the sacrifice occured and Tragodea was left uninformed by the other high priests purposely. The Pharoah at first did not know either but when the astrologer learned the truth of his rings origins, he felt it was a betrayed by his beloved Pharoah. Outraged, he went to confront the king but the other priest intercetped him first and banished him to the dark dimention of Zorc, making him th first human prisoner of the shadow realm. The extended time there alone, his own mystical power and connection to the ring caused him to transform and fuse with the shadow realm ti be come the demon we see escape in GX. He is defeated by Jaden and Chazz after interacting with duel academy where it is learned he was the reason Jadens idol went into a coma and the purpose behind winged kuriboh/light and darkness dragon. If Manga Kiaba dies 6 months after the end of the first series, it means the manga and anime GX series are indeed a seperate timeline and one where the academy is never made. The events where tragodea escapes but is thwarted by the academy students never happens and we never get a resolution to the lost priest's story..in the anime and gx manga timelines, this is resolved but Seto remains on earth with his soul never passed on to the afterlife of Pharoahs where it belongs. One has to stay for the other to be resolved. You can even see Seto and Trogeodea as sort of opposite counterparts in their stories so it kind of makes poetic sense. Until the DSoD movie however, Seto didn't get thsi closer in either storyline as we assumed the GX manga being different from the anime is a direct sequal to the OG manga but now we know it is its own third tomeline where Seto still lives. With the newer shows focusing on alternate realities and split timeslines all the more, it makes sense. There is even a fan theory that everything thar happens revolving around the millenium world was actually just history being altered ibto something more like a manga story to fulfill Yugis wish for more frieds in the best way for a nerdy Japanese kid in the 90s. I won't go into the many details supporting it but basically the only truely magical item was the puzzle all along and everything else including the other items, Atem's spirit and the jump in technology, creating an increasingly more unbelievable world; were manifestations of the puzzle and it retroactively altering reality to make the target of its wish granting magic into the protagonist of his own management story where he makes friends for life.
Marik isn't an old rival of the Pharaoh's. He just had a big grudge against him.
Their backstories are also very different.
Honestly I think it be hilarious if Kaiba attempted to solve the Millennium Puzzle by hand rather than by a machine.