It's just supply and demand. Your opinion can be that they're overpriced. Many agree. But had they made less figures, this sale would not be happening. These sell for full retail. They simply made more than the amount of buyers willing to pay that price.
My first two Super 7 figures were Raphael and Splinter. After 12 hours out of the box, Splinter's tail broke. I emailed them asking for a replacement tail (not a free figure, not an apology, just a part to replace what broke) and their email back was rude. That taste never left my mouth and skewed my perception of the company ever since. Four Horsemen and Boss Fight Studios have excellent, top notch customer service. They treat it like their next sales depend on it. Super 7 didn't in my interaction.
If they're 65% off either BBTS is taking a loss or the markup on those figures is ridiculous. ..Super7 also went too hard on variants and reissues too early 😊
LoL see NECA and Last Ronin and how they've been milking Ronin Mikey. We have an armored, unarmored, Red rogue, and now a black and white variant. Before dropping any of the brothers.
This is extremely depressing when you paid full price for everything that’s now $19.25… The only thing I didn’t pick up at full price is the Mousers. I just grabbed a pack finally. We lost hundreds of dollars… Super7 are overproducing their products. They’ll all be in the landfill soon like those E.T. Atari games. 🍻
I believe that companies go all in on the first waves to hook people then after wave 1 the quality drops and the QC issues start happening. The completionists cannot walk away and the franchise fanatics feel they have to have all the new stuff because of loyalty to the brand/franchise….quality be damned. I’ve always stated that you should control your collection and not the other way around. If the QC issues are there and the prices are still high then you’ve got to seperate yourself from brand/franchise and draw a line in the sand and go “Lift your game or i’m out”. Close your wallet.
I definitely picked up a few today that I held out on due to price. The Disney line should never have been $55 each. These sale prices are worth it and $19.25 is a steal. I haven’t paid full price for a Super7 figure in over a year. Never again will I preorder and I will only wait for them to go on sale. $37.50 is the sweet spot for me. Anything less is a bonus. If Sloppy7 would lower their prices, they would sell so much more product and actually make more money in the end. I would jump in on at least 4 other lines that they make if the prices were $40 and under, excluding the larger items. $55/$65 is justifiable for those. Let’s hope something changes soon. I agree, things aren’t looking good for them.
A big problem for Super7 is that I believe they are charging ridiculous prices to help cover their overhead for their retail locations. They make fun products but they are charging close to double what their prices should be.
My problem with Super7 is that the price just doesn't reflect what you're getting. Their figures are so expensive but have *awful* articulation, inconsistent paint and mixed QC. With how inconsistent the figures are, you don't know if any will turn out good, and like you said, they haven't built up a lot of faith or loyalty like other lines with consistency problems (e.g., SHF, Mafex, Neca, any Hasbro line). With how the figures all cost the same despite the different licensing costsl, it really feels like some people are paying more so that the company can do whatever they want, like open a brick and mortar store or make really niche figures. Or are we really gonna pretend the license for Toxic Crusaders costs as much as TMNT or Power Rangers?
Super7 is a company whose products are very expensive for what they offer. Pre-orders are always based on 3D renders that do not represent the final figure. The articulations are limited, the paint applications are very basic, and they essentially thrive on nostalgia.
Super7 needs to stop putting up pre orders that won’t be out till 2 years later, stop rushing out their figures, and make figures that look as good if not better than the prototypes
@@pez_dispenser42069 I would say its both; the delays are pretty constant across their line but they then rush them out with errors as they've already been so delayed they don't want to risk even more by fixing the mistakes made with them. Stuff like Tygra's arm band, the unpainted faces on the 2nd wave of Joes, Moe missing his apron, etc, it feels like they just get to a point and panic realizing if they delay any more it will impact another line they're doing so they just ship out what they've got and hope customers won't notice.
Scattered QC issues aside, Super7 TMNT Ultimates are some of the best figures I own, but I've been worried about the longevity of the company for a while. I just hope they have enough time left to get Cats' Lair out of the door.
I agree, I think their figures are largely some of the best I own for the price point. Compared to something like NECA where literally every figure I buy from them has issues.
@@daniel79tj Apparently there may be some legal hangups for that with some characters. I had heard their Rat King was the way it was because of NECA having exclusive rights to the cartoon likeness of the character so they used the one from the most recent video game. Not sure if that's effecting other characters.
@@Sammo212 I believe the Rat King issue was more about Playmates than Neca. Super7 has essentially been modernizing old 80s/90s Playmates TMNT toy designs. And it's been implied that Playmates got salty about it and complained to Nickelodeon. So now Super7 needs to justify their designs by pretending that they are based on something else. The trick now is finding old character references that look like (but aren't literally) the Playmates figures and claiming that THAT is what they are modernizing.
Agreed. I talked to the owner of my local comic shop the other day and he said they are basically just stuck with these in the short term. So he has to play the long game and hope that once these sell out from online retailers at rock bottom prices and are no longer available, then maybe he will be able to sell what he has in stock at close to retail prices. Until then, they are just taking up space in his store.
For me it was the Krusty not having his cigar or Moe's not having his apron. Especially when that's what was advertised at when I purchased them. It's like wtf, who do they think they are to charge that much, and still not give us what we paid for.
Slash and surfer Mikey were great figures with no QC issues FOR ME. They’re just not consistent unfortunately and the premium is not justified when they have so many QC issues and varying quality in sculpts. Especially face sculpts. Rooting for them, but they need managing.
I do think they inability to secure large runs of items means they jump around from factory to factory and that has resulted in their quality being off and on. He-Man was still using Mattel factories then when it didn’t you could tell the quality dropped off. I do think they won’t be around much longer, they already have had to cancel some preorder waves and figures for multiple lines. Their business model and lack of care will shut them down. Even at these prices they just aren’t worth it.
I want some of the Tmnt, the Thundercats, and the Animaniacs set, but I already bought a bunch of stuff last week. Plus, more stuff is coming out between now and Christmas. Between the big companies, small companies, and indie companies there's a lot of product on the market.
I really loved Super7 on their initial TMNT waves. But then situations like the Undercover Raph's renders being updated to show no deco after pre-orders happened, how horrible almost all the human characters look so far, and the fact that I have a ton of figures on my shelves but somehow when accidents happen only Super7 figures break on me (Krang and Cobra Commander) really made me take a look at the line and realize they just really weren't worth the asking price. So I now have bought two TMNT waves for ~$25 a figure so far and just recently bought Duke and Snake Eyes from Amazon when they were close to these BBTS prices. There's no way I'm ever buying their figures for full price anymore when there's a ton of other companies coming for my dollars. But I would straight up buy Ultimate Real Ghostbusters at full price if those recent renders going around were picked up by Super7 and had good paint apps... 😅
The thing that really rubbed me the wrong way with Super7 was waiting 6+ months for a figure and then finding out that a youtuber (cough cough toybro cough cough) got it for free one month earlier than people who actually paid for it.
@@gregoryschmerber9478it’s because he only really gushes when it comes to super7 products. I honestly like the guy but he’ll give them a pass and then rip into(not really he’s a pretty positive dude) another figure with the a similar issue.
In the UK the TMNT ultimates from the 'Scratch The Cat' wave have been selling cheap for age's, people cant get rid of them at £20 when RRP is £55. B&M a local discount stockist got a load of Super7 Ultimates and were selling them off for £20 each, which crashed the aftermarket prices for them here.
They likely couldn't do these prices from the start. This is a result of supply and demand. It is not them realizing they overcharged and now they're reducing prices. They simply made too many figures and now retailers need to move them.
25$ retail for tmnt ultimates is pure stupidity. you obviously have no conception of money or value. plenty of people were willing and would be willing to pay 50-60 if the value was there. but s7 has frequent paint app and QC issues. they're more concerned with virtue signaling and brand image than their actual product and actual customers. i'm all for trashing s7 and they deserve to go down. but you're just clueless and talking nonsense because you're used to buying cheap stuff
Great video, Hatter. I really like the way the Joe Ultimates look, but $55/figure is a tough pill and I think Brian Flynn's response to the missing paint apps on wave 2 just rubbed me the wrong way. I've sold off the few ultimates I had and am being very selective on their offerings.
I'd be buying a lot of these figures if I didn't need to save bucks for Legions Con. Crazy prices, hopefully they last a while. I don't think Super7 is in real trouble yet, but will be if nothing changes. They need to be more selective about licenses and characters, and produce quality figures that actually look like what you think you're buying.
i tripped out when i saw the cobra bat and cobra commander at walmart. swear my first thought was, “i hope they’re cheaper here at walmart!”. they were 54.99 and i put them back on the shelf.
I’m not a huge Super7 collector but I do have several of the TMNT figures and wave 1 of G I Joe ultimates, I mainly collect Hasbro gi joe classified black series and marvel legends along with DC multiverse, but I do hope they can turn it around I would hate to see them go out of business cause they do make some badass figures and have a love of all the iconic 80s toys/cartoons that we might not otherwise get.
No more shipping sleeve means my new acquisitions are different from my previous complete collection. So it feels like a time to break off from their waves.
Prices are “Slashed” we had this happen in the UK Mad Hatter, Sewer Surfing Mike, Samurai Leo and Scratch turned up in our version of Ollie’s called B and M for around £19.99 each - that’s like $19 a Super 7 Ultimates figure!
If Super7 is going to charge $55 a figure, they better look exactly like the prototype, have tight joints and no paint issues. Nope, nope and nope, this is why they find themselves in this predicament. I wonder if the Cats' Lair is in serious jeopardy of even being made.
I saw that and I don’t think its a good sign…… Imagine I paid £50 a figure for wave 1 of the Simpsons but on BBTS they are now only £120 for the whole wave!… I do love Super7 figures though.. they are wacky and look cool. I feel this will hurt their bottom line and business model as you will now get collectors waiting for a price slash. In a weird way though I think one day Super7 will go under sadly and by that stage we will see the MOTU Classics effect where all our S7 stuff no longer in production will be worth loads on the aftermarket!
Super7 sells figures that are worth at most $45 for $55-$65, then panic sell figures for half price when they have extra stock. Just sell them for $40 from the beginning 😂
Damn thanks for the heads up Hatter! Super 7 stuff has always been too rich for my blood but now its time to finally get that Ren & Stimpy and some Joes.
I always assumed their biggest issue was spreading themselves too thin with so many licenses. They went a little overboard over the last few years and I think it's starting to catch up with them.
It’s nuts. I have paid full price for a handful of ultimates and my Jaws reactions back in the day. Most of the ultimates I have gotten for $20-$30 and reactions for $5-$15. Just grabbed a few of these as well. I think they’re way to deep into different properties.
I got the same email this morning and actually thought of you. I paid full price for a lot of those turtle figures 🤦♂️ they bit off more than they can chew for sure. That price for that Slash figure is insane 🔥
my nostalgia for the TMNT made me want them, but even with this sale, 19 figures is still close to $600. I just cannot do that for what I'd be getting.
The only good thing about the ReAction line is the large number of IPs together at about the same scale. The design proportions are a little weird. The articulation is far too limited. The prices are far too high for what they are. The wide variety of obscure characters is not enough to draw many people in.
Thx for touching on a subject that has been on a lot of our minds with SUPER7!! When I logged in to my email and saw the info from Big Bad toy store, I lost my shit 😮 at the prices!!
Ace from ramen was saying before that Super 7 is not a small company anymore which he’s right. Brian Flynn tries to pass themselves as small and that QC issues can result from that and they just shrug shoulders so people get fed up with them.
I was the same with being all in on both TMNT and the Thundercats from Super7, but with the price increases from the and toy lines from other companies, I've had to stop.
Thank you for the insight. I agree with the points you made. I sense two things may be happening for Super7: 1) "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked." I think generally speaking the demand for toys has increased over the last 3-4 years given the pandemic/stimulus situation and the fact that a bunch of Gen Xers are entering the final half of their lifespan. But given the glut of plastic being injected into available supply and the general tightening of personal budgets, people are going to be more selective. Bad news for Super7 given the points you made in your video. 2) Is it just me or has Super7 been committing a bunch of unforced errors? Their price point is too high. That's just generally accepted by every collector I follow. I can't think of a time when a toy reviewer said, "This Super7 toy is good value at this price." And then there are a bunch of decisions that seem questionable (your "a king is making random decisions" point). For example: the mishandling of Rat King, the messaging behind their SilverHawks line ("Feeling duped? Just buy another overpriced figure with the vac metal treatment you wanted in the first place. Hurr hurr"), the bonkers decision to crowdfund a $500 vehicle literally no one asked for. The only Super7 toys I ever bought were on deep, deep clearance. I actually sort of want that recent 1987 Cartoon Ultimates! Shredder and was actually considering just paying full price. But now with all these clearance sales, I'd be a sucker to buy. And, just my luck, the BBTS clearance doesn't include this one. Too soon? I'll wait until Black Friday season, I guess
They have loads of weird obscure licenses like misfits and stuff lots of crap that no one wants especially the reaction stuff yet their ultimate tmnt, thundercats, simpsons are amazing, go figure!
I only have Lynx-O, Jackalman and Monkian because I found them at a local haunt used, and later Panthro and Bengali MIB at a comics haunt having stuff on sale for Free Comic Book Day.
I have no sympathy for a company that has no mercy on my wallet. When we were buying the toys, they raised the price again and again. So I'm glad people are letting this stuff sit in their high prices. I hope your theory is true Mr. Hatter.
Super 7 figs are expensive cause their office is in the most expensive part of San Francisco, not because the figures are well made or expensive to make. That’s obvious when you look at the product they put out. But I don’t think super 7 is in trouble. They still consistently put out stuff, and the prices for new products aren’t going down at all. I do think they need a big wake up call…
Im hoping things wont get worse for super7. Im in on the Thundercats and i will riot if we miss out on the Kittens cause of their problems. They have so many licenses. At one point its just to much.
I don't pay full price for super 7 anymore. There's no way I can justify paying full price for a figure that will more than likely have QC issues and be half the price during the holidays.
$20 for that each figure of that wave? Wow... I paid full price on each on them in preorder a year ago? Not good but anyways I probably get me the mouse's pack.🐭💡👍
you are spot on about the collector disappointment with S7 in terms of prototype pre-order pictures look nothing like the final product. I know these toy companies will stress that "It's JUST a prototype and in fine print we do inform that final products may differ" but imagine having starting an entire collection based on the promise of one pre-order photo that looks so good but when it shipped, it really looked way way different than the pre order promises. I have stopped supporting S7 after the Cheetara, man I feel so cheated. I pre ordered the Cheetara based on that pre-order picture and when mine shipped, it looks nothing like it after some delays and there were alot of paint QC issues on it. These figures ain't cheap either like you said.
Finally… Super7 figures at prices that are reasonable. Picked up the Cobra BAT.. Hoping they put other Joe figs on discount. Its crazy to pay full price for them.
Seriously what are they doing? Why would anyone wanna support and buy from them when you KNOW you can eventually find it much cheaper down the road AND ADVERTISED FROM THEM ABOUT HOW CHEAPER IT IS no less.
Interesting. A lot of S7 figures, especially those solicited during the Pandemic, have pretty hefty prices in the EU still, I think some of the upcoming regular figures come in at 90-100 dollars, when converted from €. That includes tax, of course, but still...oof. I don't see how that can be a sustainable model for Super 7, and apprently it isn't (or BBTS just overstocked pretty significantly...).
I think you hit the nail on the head, Hatter. Super7 is definitely capable of making fantastic figures. When they pull off a good figure, it jumps to contender for top figures of the year for me. If they can keep on top of QC, I feel they are worth the money. You can get pretty good value for what you get. Often times, you get a whole lotta plastic and sculpt for the price.... but that quality has to be top notch. I'm still in on the turtles, but I'm picky about what I get right away.
I was also hooked on the brand for MOTU and even the Thundercats. Then their prices and wait time kept going up and QC was going down. Plus they're using the same articulated buck from the mid 2000s.
Maybe another topic, but I noticed a lot of NECA figures recently also went "on sale" at BBTS but the price is unchanged. Many figures that were $37.99 before still are $37.99. In this case BBTS is labelling figures "on sale" with a certain percent off, only in relation to the MSRP, which was always shown next to the price. I hope I'm making sense..🤣 These Super7 prices are crazy! But has anyone else noticed the "on sale but not actually on sale" prices on BBTS?
This is a steal! They need to drop their prices in general tho. I do like their figures but they gotta drop their prices to $35-40 especially now they’re more widely available through Amazon and Best Buy. Before they could of named the price since they were more limited but those days are over.
I love my Super7 TMNT. In fact, when I redid my shelves I took down my 90's movie figures so I could display the Super7. I think they outclass my NECA's with the exception of Krang and his Walker. Of course, I am a huge nostalgia freak who grew up with the playmate's figures. I would love to have gotten them at $25 instead of $55 for sure. Who wouldn'? I don't feel like I overpaid though. I still get excited looking at them on the shelf. For me, I think the real threat to my NECA and Super7 collections(ing) is if Mezco goes deep on TMNT. Cause my Mezco figures outclass every other figure in my collection by miles.
Super7 has always been overpriced for what you get. The looks of the figures are great but QC is seriously lacking. This sale is an insane deal, but I don't think I'm going to start any new lines with this company. I might grab a few more TMNT to complement the ones I already have. I've started spotting Ultimates figures at Walmart now, so maybe Super7 is looking to expand distribution and hopefully can begin to lower prices.
Super7 at Ross and Ollie's would be panic mode for the company, they're way overpriced but BBTS randomly slashes prices on stock. I remember buying some import figures that I didn't even want or know about just because they were soo cheap.
There were 2 things that I knew where gonna cause Super7 Ultimates brand to collapse. They grab/started too many brands. When they got in with Hasbro with all those licenses. GIJoe, Transformers, Power Rangers-just too many lines all at once. Especially when the price point went over $50 a stand figure. The Ultimates figures are too expensive when you take In account taxes & shipping costs added on🤷♂️
Rule 1 in toy collecting in the 2020’s- never pay full price for a super 7 ultimates.
Never pay full price wait for Ross to have them
Super7 is overpriced
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It’s that simple. They make so many figures I’d buy but $50 for 6 inch and those reaction figures are the biggest rip off I’ve seen
Bingo
It's just supply and demand. Your opinion can be that they're overpriced. Many agree. But had they made less figures, this sale would not be happening. These sell for full retail. They simply made more than the amount of buyers willing to pay that price.
Simply put
My first two Super 7 figures were Raphael and Splinter. After 12 hours out of the box, Splinter's tail broke. I emailed them asking for a replacement tail (not a free figure, not an apology, just a part to replace what broke) and their email back was rude. That taste never left my mouth and skewed my perception of the company ever since. Four Horsemen and Boss Fight Studios have excellent, top notch customer service. They treat it like their next sales depend on it. Super 7 didn't in my interaction.
My Splinter tail broke right out of the box as well so it's not just you.
Its been reported that the owner is kind of a dick head, so it would make sense that they have a poor customer service culture.
@badmoonknight5009 is it Brian Flynn (or is he just their figurehead)?
NECA is the same way.
If they're 65% off either BBTS is taking a loss or the markup on those figures is ridiculous. ..Super7 also went too hard on variants and reissues too early
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Literally one of the TMNT Waves is all variants with the exception of 1 figure.
LoL see NECA and Last Ronin and how they've been milking Ronin Mikey. We have an armored, unarmored, Red rogue, and now a black and white variant. Before dropping any of the brothers.
Big bad toys charges over msrp even tho they say they dont their mirage is 40++ when in store 36
This is extremely depressing when you paid full price for everything that’s now $19.25… The only thing I didn’t pick up at full price is the Mousers. I just grabbed a pack finally. We lost hundreds of dollars… Super7 are overproducing their products. They’ll all be in the landfill soon like those E.T. Atari games. 🍻
😭😭😭😭😭😭 I feel you and it hurts
Price has always been the main issue I hardly buy any super7 figures, the got bigger and prices went higher
It's painful being an opener with Ultimates. They obviously spend a ton of their budget on the packaging and I don't even want it.
I believe that companies go all in on the first waves to hook people then after wave 1 the quality drops and the QC issues start happening. The completionists cannot walk away and the franchise fanatics feel they have to have all the new stuff because of loyalty to the brand/franchise….quality be damned.
I’ve always stated that you should control your collection and not the other way around.
If the QC issues are there and the prices are still high then you’ve got to seperate yourself from brand/franchise and draw a line in the sand and go “Lift your game or i’m out”. Close your wallet.
I definitely picked up a few today that I held out on due to price. The Disney line should never have been $55 each. These sale prices are worth it and $19.25 is a steal. I haven’t paid full price for a Super7 figure in over a year. Never again will I preorder and I will only wait for them to go on sale.
$37.50 is the sweet spot for me. Anything less is a bonus. If Sloppy7 would lower their prices, they would sell so much more product and actually make more money in the end. I would jump in on at least 4 other lines that they make if the prices were $40 and under, excluding the larger items. $55/$65 is justifiable for those. Let’s hope something changes soon. I agree, things aren’t looking good for them.
A big problem for Super7 is that I believe they are charging ridiculous prices to help cover their overhead for their retail locations. They make fun products but they are charging close to double what their prices should be.
My problem with Super7 is that the price just doesn't reflect what you're getting. Their figures are so expensive but have *awful* articulation, inconsistent paint and mixed QC. With how inconsistent the figures are, you don't know if any will turn out good, and like you said, they haven't built up a lot of faith or loyalty like other lines with consistency problems (e.g., SHF, Mafex, Neca, any Hasbro line). With how the figures all cost the same despite the different licensing costsl, it really feels like some people are paying more so that the company can do whatever they want, like open a brick and mortar store or make really niche figures. Or are we really gonna pretend the license for Toxic Crusaders costs as much as TMNT or Power Rangers?
Good, maybe they will stop overcharging on ReAction Figures.
Super7 is a company whose products are very expensive for what they offer. Pre-orders are always based on 3D renders that do not represent the final figure. The articulations are limited, the paint applications are very basic, and they essentially thrive on nostalgia.
What I've learned from the Ultinates line is that if it's a figure of a human character, it's going to suck.
Super7 needs to stop putting up pre orders that won’t be out till 2 years later, stop rushing out their figures, and make figures that look as good if not better than the prototypes
So what is it? They're taking too long to release their figures, or they're rushing them out?
@@pez_dispenser42069 I would say its both; the delays are pretty constant across their line but they then rush them out with errors as they've already been so delayed they don't want to risk even more by fixing the mistakes made with them. Stuff like Tygra's arm band, the unpainted faces on the 2nd wave of Joes, Moe missing his apron, etc, it feels like they just get to a point and panic realizing if they delay any more it will impact another line they're doing so they just ship out what they've got and hope customers won't notice.
Went in on the Animaniacs at this price 👍 thanks for the heads-up 🙌
Hahaah I did the same!
When You Take Price, Quality Control, Long Wait Times Competition and The Economy You Get a Bad Situation for Super7
Scattered QC issues aside, Super7 TMNT Ultimates are some of the best figures I own, but I've been worried about the longevity of the company for a while. I just hope they have enough time left to get Cats' Lair out of the door.
I agree, I think their figures are largely some of the best I own for the price point. Compared to something like NECA where literally every figure I buy from them has issues.
and sadly that line looks like its dead after they moved from the playmates designs
@@daniel79tj Apparently there may be some legal hangups for that with some characters. I had heard their Rat King was the way it was because of NECA having exclusive rights to the cartoon likeness of the character so they used the one from the most recent video game. Not sure if that's effecting other characters.
@@Sammo212 I believe the Rat King issue was more about Playmates than Neca. Super7 has essentially been modernizing old 80s/90s Playmates TMNT toy designs. And it's been implied that Playmates got salty about it and complained to Nickelodeon.
So now Super7 needs to justify their designs by pretending that they are based on something else. The trick now is finding old character references that look like (but aren't literally) the Playmates figures and claiming that THAT is what they are modernizing.
You don’t have that Turtle Van on pre-order? I’m going to be super bummed if I pay full price and they do a sale like this on the van.
I really hate it for local toy stores. All these figures going on sale like this and ending up at Ross and Ollie’s are really hurting them.
Agreed. I talked to the owner of my local comic shop the other day and he said they are basically just stuck with these in the short term. So he has to play the long game and hope that once these sell out from online retailers at rock bottom prices and are no longer available, then maybe he will be able to sell what he has in stock at close to retail prices. Until then, they are just taking up space in his store.
For me it was the Krusty not having his cigar or Moe's not having his apron. Especially when that's what was advertised at when I purchased them. It's like wtf, who do they think they are to charge that much, and still not give us what we paid for.
Surprise surprise, People dont like overpaying for shitty products.
Slash and surfer Mikey were great figures with no QC issues FOR ME. They’re just not consistent unfortunately and the premium is not justified when they have so many QC issues and varying quality in sculpts. Especially face sculpts. Rooting for them, but they need managing.
I do think they inability to secure large runs of items means they jump around from factory to factory and that has resulted in their quality being off and on. He-Man was still using Mattel factories then when it didn’t you could tell the quality dropped off. I do think they won’t be around much longer, they already have had to cancel some preorder waves and figures for multiple lines. Their business model and lack of care will shut them down. Even at these prices they just aren’t worth it.
I want some of the Tmnt, the Thundercats, and the Animaniacs set, but I already bought a bunch of stuff last week. Plus, more stuff is coming out between now and Christmas. Between the big companies, small companies, and indie companies there's a lot of product on the market.
I really loved Super7 on their initial TMNT waves. But then situations like the Undercover Raph's renders being updated to show no deco after pre-orders happened, how horrible almost all the human characters look so far, and the fact that I have a ton of figures on my shelves but somehow when accidents happen only Super7 figures break on me (Krang and Cobra Commander) really made me take a look at the line and realize they just really weren't worth the asking price. So I now have bought two TMNT waves for ~$25 a figure so far and just recently bought Duke and Snake Eyes from Amazon when they were close to these BBTS prices. There's no way I'm ever buying their figures for full price anymore when there's a ton of other companies coming for my dollars. But I would straight up buy Ultimate Real Ghostbusters at full price if those recent renders going around were picked up by Super7 and had good paint apps... 😅
Saw this coming. That's why I'm still waiting on the ThunderTank to drop some more.
The thing that really rubbed me the wrong way with Super7 was waiting 6+ months for a figure and then finding out that a youtuber (cough cough toybro cough cough) got it for free one month earlier than people who actually paid for it.
It irritates me to, but he gets it to review it. He isn't special, I guess they chose him to show off their product
@@gregoryschmerber9478it’s because he only really gushes when it comes to super7 products. I honestly like the guy but he’ll give them a pass and then rip into(not really he’s a pretty positive dude) another figure with the a similar issue.
He gets it tor review the product, and to get more sales to super7, it´s obvious. Who the hel... gets mad with that? Only a 5 year old that´s who
@@maddropby that logic you have to be a 5 years old too to get mad at a RUclips comment 😅
Why get upset at a company promoting their product? That's all a toy influencer getting an early sample is.
In the UK the TMNT ultimates from the 'Scratch The Cat' wave have been selling cheap for age's, people cant get rid of them at £20 when RRP is £55. B&M a local discount stockist got a load of Super7 Ultimates and were selling them off for £20 each, which crashed the aftermarket prices for them here.
They’ve been hurting for a while. There’s a reason their upcoming releases are so far behind schedule.
Still waiting for their Bartman figure to release.
If super 7 would've did 25 each from the start we would've bought them. Not too many people want to fork out $50+ for one 1/12th scale figure.
They likely couldn't do these prices from the start. This is a result of supply and demand. It is not them realizing they overcharged and now they're reducing prices. They simply made too many figures and now retailers need to move them.
25$ retail for tmnt ultimates is pure stupidity. you obviously have no conception of money or value. plenty of people were willing and would be willing to pay 50-60 if the value was there. but s7 has frequent paint app and QC issues. they're more concerned with virtue signaling and brand image than their actual product and actual customers. i'm all for trashing s7 and they deserve to go down. but you're just clueless and talking nonsense because you're used to buying cheap stuff
Also if BBTS has a lot of S7 stock at their warehouse they won’t order as many of the new waves hurting S7.
Super 7 ultimate for $55 dollars people ain’t paying that much for plastic
Really interesting video, man. You made some great points. As I watched this, I kept thinking of how overpriced the Cobra Mothership is. 😔
Now im just playing clearence chicken, no more pre-orders
Great video, Hatter. I really like the way the Joe Ultimates look, but $55/figure is a tough pill and I think Brian Flynn's response to the missing paint apps on wave 2 just rubbed me the wrong way. I've sold off the few ultimates I had and am being very selective on their offerings.
Getting my first super 7 figure ever today thanks hatter merry chrysler !!!!
Damn the Simpsons are only on sale for the wholes wave screw your Flanders!!
I'd be buying a lot of these figures if I didn't need to save bucks for Legions Con. Crazy prices, hopefully they last a while.
I don't think Super7 is in real trouble yet, but will be if nothing changes. They need to be more selective about licenses and characters, and produce quality figures that actually look like what you think you're buying.
i tripped out when i saw the cobra bat and cobra commander at walmart. swear my first thought was, “i hope they’re cheaper here at walmart!”. they were 54.99 and i put them back on the shelf.
The Prince John figure for $22 is an amazing deal. Awesome figure, incredible accessories. It’s a great figure.
Mine is stained, even on the white fur trim part lol. Its a good price, but they're a mess with QC. Literally can't display him in his robbed look.
@@ingloriousmax that’s awful
I’m not a huge Super7 collector but I do have several of the TMNT figures and wave 1 of G I Joe ultimates, I mainly collect Hasbro gi joe classified black series and marvel legends along with DC multiverse, but I do hope they can turn it around I would hate to see them go out of business cause they do make some badass figures and have a love of all the iconic 80s toys/cartoons that we might not otherwise get.
i mostly agree, but no you cannot put my toys in a baggie for $30 🤣
HHaha fair enough!
As someone who is late to the Super7 party, this is amazing news for me 😊
Kim Kardashian is a good comeback story...
😂😂 cum on the back story for sure 😂
Do Hasbro next! Do Hasbro next!
NOBODY could be worse than Hasbro!
No more shipping sleeve means my new acquisitions are different from my previous complete collection. So it feels like a time to break off from their waves.
Prices are “Slashed” we had this happen in the UK Mad Hatter, Sewer Surfing Mike, Samurai Leo and Scratch turned up in our version of Ollie’s called B and M for around £19.99 each - that’s like $19 a Super 7 Ultimates figure!
If Super7 is going to charge $55 a figure, they better look exactly like the prototype, have tight joints and no paint issues. Nope, nope and nope, this is why they find themselves in this predicament.
I wonder if the Cats' Lair is in serious jeopardy of even being made.
Great video! I love the baby screeching in the back interrupting your video! Hilarious!
I saw that and I don’t think its a good sign…… Imagine I paid £50 a figure for wave 1 of the Simpsons but on BBTS they are now only £120 for the whole wave!… I do love Super7 figures though.. they are wacky and look cool.
I feel this will hurt their bottom line and business model as you will now get collectors waiting for a price slash.
In a weird way though I think one day Super7 will go under sadly and by that stage we will see the MOTU Classics effect where all our S7 stuff no longer in production will be worth loads on the aftermarket!
lack of double joints sucks!
My local Walmart just started selling Super 7 GI Joe figures.... Not sure how that's going to go.
Super7 sells figures that are worth at most $45 for $55-$65, then panic sell figures for half price when they have extra stock. Just sell them for $40 from the beginning 😂
Damn thanks for the heads up Hatter! Super 7 stuff has always been too rich for my blood but now its time to finally get that Ren & Stimpy and some Joes.
I always assumed their biggest issue was spreading themselves too thin with so many licenses. They went a little overboard over the last few years and I think it's starting to catch up with them.
I think it has to do with over producing. Saturated the market.
I think the figures are good but I think the prices are too high maybe 35 per figure would be fair but 55 each figure is the reason I never purchased.
It’s nuts. I have paid full price for a handful of ultimates and my Jaws reactions back in the day. Most of the ultimates I have gotten for $20-$30 and reactions for $5-$15. Just grabbed a few of these as well. I think they’re way to deep into different properties.
I got the same email this morning and actually thought of you. I paid full price for a lot of those turtle figures 🤦♂️ they bit off more than they can chew for sure. That price for that Slash figure is insane 🔥
my nostalgia for the TMNT made me want them, but even with this sale, 19 figures is still close to $600. I just cannot do that for what I'd be getting.
The only good thing about the ReAction line is the large number of IPs together at about the same scale.
The design proportions are a little weird.
The articulation is far too limited.
The prices are far too high for what they are.
The wide variety of obscure characters is not enough to draw many people in.
As bad as Super7 is Hasbro is FAR worse.
Hasbro has absolutely NO excuse for its problems.
Thx for touching on a subject that has been on a lot of our minds with SUPER7!! When I logged in to my email and saw the info from Big Bad toy store, I lost my shit 😮 at the prices!!
Ace from ramen was saying before that Super 7 is not a small company anymore which he’s right. Brian Flynn tries to pass themselves as small and that QC issues can result from that and they just shrug shoulders so people get fed up with them.
I was the same with being all in on both TMNT and the Thundercats from Super7, but with the price increases from the and toy lines from other companies, I've had to stop.
Thank you for the insight. I agree with the points you made. I sense two things may be happening for Super7:
1) "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked." I think generally speaking the demand for toys has increased over the last 3-4 years given the pandemic/stimulus situation and the fact that a bunch of Gen Xers are entering the final half of their lifespan. But given the glut of plastic being injected into available supply and the general tightening of personal budgets, people are going to be more selective. Bad news for Super7 given the points you made in your video.
2) Is it just me or has Super7 been committing a bunch of unforced errors? Their price point is too high. That's just generally accepted by every collector I follow. I can't think of a time when a toy reviewer said, "This Super7 toy is good value at this price." And then there are a bunch of decisions that seem questionable (your "a king is making random decisions" point). For example: the mishandling of Rat King, the messaging behind their SilverHawks line ("Feeling duped? Just buy another overpriced figure with the vac metal treatment you wanted in the first place. Hurr hurr"), the bonkers decision to crowdfund a $500 vehicle literally no one asked for.
The only Super7 toys I ever bought were on deep, deep clearance. I actually sort of want that recent 1987 Cartoon Ultimates! Shredder and was actually considering just paying full price. But now with all these clearance sales, I'd be a sucker to buy. And, just my luck, the BBTS clearance doesn't include this one. Too soon? I'll wait until Black Friday season, I guess
They have loads of weird obscure licenses like misfits and stuff lots of crap that no one wants especially the reaction stuff yet their ultimate tmnt, thundercats, simpsons are amazing, go figure!
I’ll be risking a longer game to see if the power rangers go on sale. Really want that set but 140 after fees is still hefty to drop on 4-5 figures.
Every time this stuff goes on sale, I feel scammed for having paid full price. Pretty sure I’m done buying their stuff.
I only have Lynx-O, Jackalman and Monkian because I found them at a local haunt used, and later Panthro and Bengali MIB at a comics haunt having stuff on sale for Free Comic Book Day.
Super7 gave the free booster pack to make up for Cheetara delays.
I have no sympathy for a company that has no mercy on my wallet. When we were buying the toys, they raised the price again and again. So I'm glad people are letting this stuff sit in their high prices. I hope your theory is true Mr. Hatter.
Super 7 figs are expensive cause their office is in the most expensive part of San Francisco, not because the figures are well made or expensive to make. That’s obvious when you look at the product they put out.
But I don’t think super 7 is in trouble. They still consistently put out stuff, and the prices for new products aren’t going down at all. I do think they need a big wake up call…
Im hoping things wont get worse for super7. Im in on the Thundercats and i will riot if we miss out on the Kittens cause of their problems. They have so many licenses. At one point its just to much.
i'm worried about my poor Ratar-O at this point so i feel your pain.
I don't pay full price for super 7 anymore. There's no way I can justify paying full price for a figure that will more than likely have QC issues and be half the price during the holidays.
Not to mention Snarf costing $55 on his own without Snarfer or a Berbil, and WilyKit and WilyKat being sold separately with a paucity of accessories.
$20 for that each figure of that wave? Wow... I paid full price on each on them in preorder a year ago? Not good but anyways I probably get me the mouse's pack.🐭💡👍
you are spot on about the collector disappointment with S7 in terms of prototype pre-order pictures look nothing like the final product. I know these toy companies will stress that "It's JUST a prototype and in fine print we do inform that final products may differ" but imagine having starting an entire collection based on the promise of one pre-order photo that looks so good but when it shipped, it really looked way way different than the pre order promises. I have stopped supporting S7 after the Cheetara, man I feel so cheated. I pre ordered the Cheetara based on that pre-order picture and when mine shipped, it looks nothing like it after some delays and there were alot of paint QC issues on it. These figures ain't cheap either like you said.
Finally… Super7 figures at prices that are reasonable. Picked up the Cobra BAT.. Hoping they put other Joe figs on discount. Its crazy to pay full price for them.
I cancelled all future preorders & playing the waiting game. Paid off. I bought another wave 1 Duke at a reasonable price.
@@ToyCollector82 yeah i picked up another Cobra Commander as well.
I got the BAT too. I hate to say I do still have black suit baroness preordered but that’s a must have for me
Seriously what are they doing? Why would anyone wanna support and buy from them when you KNOW you can eventually find it much cheaper down the road AND ADVERTISED FROM THEM ABOUT HOW CHEAPER IT IS no less.
Because if they don't get the required preorders, they can't produce the figure.
Hey buddy you forgot to put the link in the subscription. Great video as always though. 😉 appreciate ya.
This was how I got Slash, Leatherhead and a Muckman this week
Most of these have been on Entertainment Earth's Outlet section for 6-12 months.
Interesting. A lot of S7 figures, especially those solicited during the Pandemic, have pretty hefty prices in the EU still, I think some of the upcoming regular figures come in at 90-100 dollars, when converted from €. That includes tax, of course, but still...oof. I don't see how that can be a sustainable model for Super 7, and apprently it isn't (or BBTS just overstocked pretty significantly...).
I’ve stopped buying there stuff at full price. Just picked up a few pieces from BBTS on sale.
This is exactly why I cancelled all my s7 pre orders except for the party wagon.
S7 doesn't allow you to cancel pre-orders from their own site, do they?
@KJ-tz7vc I don't know but I cancelled all my pre orders from bbts
I think you hit the nail on the head, Hatter. Super7 is definitely capable of making fantastic figures. When they pull off a good figure, it jumps to contender for top figures of the year for me. If they can keep on top of QC, I feel they are worth the money. You can get pretty good value for what you get. Often times, you get a whole lotta plastic and sculpt for the price.... but that quality has to be top notch.
I'm still in on the turtles, but I'm picky about what I get right away.
Just got my $20 Slash.
What a beast of a figure, I love it. Thanks again, enabler!
I remember the Gi Joe wave 2 where Brian basically said suck it to the customers. Super 7 just got a big loan so yeah
Haven't forgotten that. They're now feeling the heat of people not buying like they used to
I’ve never paid retail for their stuff 😂😂😂 Amazon has the best prices 😎👍🏽
Super7 figures feel about $35 each at best, but they have the QC of basic $10 to $15 figures. I will buy the Silverhawks at this prices but not more.
Loving your videos as always Hatter!
Easiest cost cut is to get the hell out of San Francisco, hell all of California. Everything there is all kinds of expensive
I was also hooked on the brand for MOTU and even the Thundercats. Then their prices and wait time kept going up and QC was going down. Plus they're using the same articulated buck from the mid 2000s.
Maybe another topic, but I noticed a lot of NECA figures recently also went "on sale" at BBTS but the price is unchanged. Many figures that were $37.99 before still are $37.99. In this case BBTS is labelling figures "on sale" with a certain percent off, only in relation to the MSRP, which was always shown next to the price. I hope I'm making sense..🤣
These Super7 prices are crazy! But has anyone else noticed the "on sale but not actually on sale" prices on BBTS?
This is a steal! They need to drop their prices in general tho. I do like their figures but they gotta drop their prices to $35-40 especially now they’re more widely available through Amazon and Best Buy. Before they could of named the price since they were more limited but those days are over.
I love my Super7 TMNT. In fact, when I redid my shelves I took down my 90's movie figures so I could display the Super7. I think they outclass my NECA's with the exception of Krang and his Walker. Of course, I am a huge nostalgia freak who grew up with the playmate's figures. I would love to have gotten them at $25 instead of $55 for sure. Who wouldn'? I don't feel like I overpaid though. I still get excited looking at them on the shelf. For me, I think the real threat to my NECA and Super7 collections(ing) is if Mezco goes deep on TMNT. Cause my Mezco figures outclass every other figure in my collection by miles.
I canceled everyone of my orders with super7 including taking the 100 buck deposit for the van at BBTS
Super7 has always been overpriced for what you get. The looks of the figures are great but QC is seriously lacking. This sale is an insane deal, but I don't think I'm going to start any new lines with this company. I might grab a few more TMNT to complement the ones I already have. I've started spotting Ultimates figures at Walmart now, so maybe Super7 is looking to expand distribution and hopefully can begin to lower prices.
Damn thank you, I just purchased slash, surfer Mikey, and toxic crusader, can’t beat it at that price
All i want from Super 7 now is the Complete Thundercats main cast with..thr kittens and snarf and im done!
Super7 figs were £20 all over the UK a few mths back. Cost me €30 to get Samurai Leo shipped to Ireland.
Super7 at Ross and Ollie's would be panic mode for the company, they're way overpriced but BBTS randomly slashes prices on stock. I remember buying some import figures that I didn't even want or know about just because they were soo cheap.
There were 2 things that I knew where gonna cause Super7 Ultimates brand to collapse. They grab/started too many brands. When they got in with Hasbro with all those licenses. GIJoe, Transformers, Power Rangers-just too many lines all at once. Especially when the price point went over $50 a stand figure. The Ultimates figures are too expensive when you take In account taxes & shipping costs added on🤷♂️