Extreme Cold Weather BMW M4 Test -27C (-16.6F) Cold Start And POV Drive
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Testing BMW M4 In Extreme Cold Weather -27C. Doing Cold Start and POV Drive And A Little Bit Of Drift In Snowy Winter
2015 BMW M4- All Stock, High Mileage (183000KM)
0:00 COLD START
1:49 COLD START OUTSIDE
3:30 ENGINE WARMUP
5:54 LAGGY SCREEN'S
6:41 HIGHWAY DRIVE
7:29 HIGHEST TEMP.
7:52 OUTSIDE VIEW'S
8:47 POV DRIVE/DRIFT
10:54 WARM STARTUP
that is a high km M4. Nice to see that its been actually driven around in all weather conditions. I love seeing this stuff
What is high . Haha its normal high is at 300k or 500 k is finish motor when you spend alot of money service drive how to know he will work fine have same 250k
For my understanding, car is meant to be driven, not held in garage for most of the time
@@simplecarchannel7462 perfect i say it its not oldtimer to be higher price aftee 40 years if people have money the can drive .. like you i love it have the same but older 2014
@@simplecarchannel7462 my used to do 11 000km per year but 182 000km is a way too much for a 2016 car
@@dzdz6102 have small car f10 520d buy with 70k 2016 and now 180.000 haha .. no one i go repair anything but service i pay premium
WOW 182.349KM on the clock! You're probably the first BMW M4 owner i know in existence to actually use and DRIVE the car! Not keeping in the garage like a tiny baby. Perfect, much respect for you!
bro.. almost all m4 owners drive their cars everyday
Thank you, for my understanding there is no point holding the car in garage , its ment for driving
one issue with the M cars is that they are almost too sporty as daily drivers and the real daily driver people just get i.e. a fully kitted out 440i. its just a bit slower but you can put the extra dosh on lots of nice comfort features for long drives.
Thats considered to be alot ? Wow...
Dang I got 220k on my 1 series it’s still going strong
I absolutely love how this M4 has 184k kilometers on the clock and still starts up perfectly at -21°C. Nice video !
Warum sollte er dieses nicht tun es ist ein Benziner und der startet auch mit 240.000 wieder normal
@@a.r1941 ja aber mit -21 grad ist es nicht so einfach...
@@blastmanutz7798we are in Russia and we start cars at minus 40😂
@@blastmanutz7798Dunno, i had a gasoline 02 volvo s40 that started fine in -35c 🤔
@@jaskajokunen3716 this very much depends on the design of an engine. Engines with higher tolerances tend to work better in lower temps but some engines that are built very precisely may partially seize up in cold weather, making it hard for them to start running (expansion of metal parts in the engine). Once they do however, they're fine.
i love those late night drives or very early in the morning when everyone is sleeping and its very cold outside. the feeling of getting into the car and the silent city is so beautiful
The reason why the infotainment display and climate control display felt "laggy" was because they are LCD displays. (Liquid crystal display). When the temperature goes below a certain point, the liquid inside cannot move quick enough at demand, and thats why it feels sluggish and slow. Let them warm up, and it should work as they normally do.
That's true. Experiencing the same and understanding the same situation.
hmm do you think oled phone screens are more responsive in cold than lcd screens?
When the snow ❄️ crunches like that, you know it’s cold 🥶 Nice M4 👍
Very interesting. I’m always happy to see high mileage F82s that still look and run good. My F82 has around 40,000 miles and I plan on keeping it for a long time. Cheers from Texas! 🍻
it's high kilometer
lol this is not high mileage lol in german wie say eingefahren
@@neibuz9625 i mean for a car that is meant to be driven hard and from 5-7k rpm at most times, imagine 180k kilometers of that, it's alot. for any normal car sure its not that much
@@Robin-hi8oq it's just made for spirited driving and track days not le mans
@@shitpostcentraI only if you're buying it, not if you're the one that put it
man that's what i dream about, being on a roadtrip and coming back from the hotel. walk to your beautiful hard earned beast of a car and to just stand in front of it for a moment, that moment of realisation after hard work and dedication. you've done it, you're driving your dream car on vacation enjoying life.
Always nice to see a super high mileage sports car that is also used in the winter. Its hard finding cold start videos of new performance cars.
a+ for not revving the engine up when it's cold.
B- for not driving it after a few seconds from start up. Letting the engine idle in the cold is not good for the engine and pistons. You have to drive it at low rpms to get the oil circulating and warming up.
@@philiptrinh4821 no such a thing, engine + transmission must be warmer for smooth operation.
@@sezeryal It's common knowledge that you are NOT supposed to just idle your engine to warm it up. There's countless of videos even on RUclips stating this and the all the reasons why. Just look up "should you idle your car before driving" to see all of the videos - they all say the same thing. You should idle it only for a few secs, then start driving to get the oil circulating and warm up the engine faster, otherwise you're wearing the o-rings, pistons, and gaskets much faster as you're not running the engine at operating temp. Idling you are wasting gas and producing more engine wear. Maybe this isn't common knowledge afterall...
@@anonypersona3189 Videos show you +20C or better temperatures. at -20C, even fully synthetic Mobil 1 is not perfect fluid. Plus there is time from transmission warm up. You won't use gas with 2-5 minutes idling at -20!
@@anonypersona3189bro do you have a bmw every bmw owner suppose to let car idle for at least 15 minutes in cold temperatures gives your battery a charge n warms up everything you can’t drive a bmw on cold start with rpm’s because rpm’s shift at 20-40 mph you’ll mess up transmission and other components. Never drive on hills after cold starts until you’ve driven on the highway to warm up the bmw. Ppl don’t know how to take care of bmws they’ll drive them on coldstarts
Auch hier aus Deutschland schön zu sehen das der M4 noch läuft bei der Km Laufleistung ! (182.000km ) sehr gut !
Bruder 180k ist nix die autos werden später ins Ausland gebracht und dort fahren di bis zum 300-400k km
Very interesting video. Never imagine people would share the cold start of a M4!
people in the russia and canada - hey man -35C cold start BMW :D
People so cold starts of pos cars who doesn’t love a good cold start of a epic bmw
I’m living in the central of Canada area where it gets pretty cold in the winter and I’ve been driving my M3F80 since 2019 all year round! No issues. I have to say that a good set of winter tire is a must have.
I’ll be moving to Fairbanks, Alaska in July as a duty station (in the army) what are recommended tires. I have a rwd 2011 bmw 335i
I'm in manitoba, there's no way i'd drive an m4 yearly. The car is too low, and they don't plow the roads.
@@fernank017I plow your mom frequently enough though
What kind of tires do you run?
Proof that good maintenance goes a long way. The S55 (once you do some preventative things to it) is a solid motor and has one of the major issues the S65 had like crank bearings.
i love this car and also you are amazing for actually driving this car and not keeping it in the garage!
love videos like these! thanks for posting
don't you just love starting up bmws and hearing that endearing chime that relate to a multitude of errors
As every bmw owner ha
This is the real cold start lol I love it! Please do a snow drive and tire review
There is first snow city night drive on my channel
@@simplecarchannel7462na super klasse fährst du da auch überall mit einer Hand😢 und die andere am Automatik Wählhebel😅 so ein Quatsch
Nice, started like a champ!
This is when remote start options are really appreciated!
The way he hit the passenger window when it started moving like he said "good job" !! 🤣
LCD screens get laggy when extremely cold because the Liquid Crystal liquid in the displays get thicker.
Because of cold. And the bmw battery
loved the gentle taps
Purrs like a kitten, even in the cold winter. The sound of this engine always puts a smile on my face :)
next time just wait for the interior to warm up before hitting windows on 70k euro car :D
it would have taken 2 hours :D
in switzerlsnd M4 with 120k mileage costs around 35k :) Yet he has 180k Lmfao
@@contentmaker7777 how many miles my M54B30 last?
@@sksuppressor756 Hm for that engine i reallt dont know but i have been doing rn a research online and, If properly maintained, you can probably expect to get about easy at 150k+ Miles even someone had 300k+ miles
@@sksuppressor756 and that engine M54 is under the list of Top 10 Most Reliable BMW engine 2000-2006, Mine is on top of them i own B58 440i
Great video. With all those Kilometers it would be super interesting to know the maintenance this car has had and repairs. Still original turbos? original chain? DCT gerabox service? Clutches? Etc...
@@simplecarchannel7462 one man one word
@@simplecarchannel7462 Yes thanks :)
Not too much service, as you can see in the video. Oil change is past since 1000 KM :)) I hope is just not reset, and the oil was changed in time.
This was a pretty cool video thanks for sharing man
Thank you very much !!
Nice pov drive 😊 thanks a lot
Yeah, nice 😊
Always good to go back to check if the exhaust is clear of any snow or other obstructions, I think you did so at the beginning.
Normal winter start for me. Never let it idle that long. I minute then drive slowly. Warms up faster and better for the car
Sick stuff my man
Those turbo’s will loveeeee that cold air
The temperature getting from -19 °C to -27 °C is not rising is getting lower. -19 is a nomber more big than -27. Math. 😉 All the best from Romania!
wow bro, 182K , such a beast ride
love vidéos like this without worth
That was smooth.
Nice Video
One Thing: I read that it ist better for the engine when you drive after it runs for about 10 seconds and not longer because when you are not driving the engine warmes up way way slower than by usual driving and therefore stays longer in the cold stadium where the use is really huge
hi, all of the noises u mentioned as in side windows rattling, or tires, are easily fixed by turning up your music volume 👍 hope it helps!
Bmw is built different 🔥
Nice video mate greetings from Turkey 🇹🇷
Engine will warm up much faster while driveing it slowly than standing still on idle. Warming engine on idle in low temps actually cause excesive engine wear. You should never do it. Just drive slowly ASAP. This BMW has even a build in indication on tacho telling you that you can and should drive it imediatelly and telling you how much you can rev it until it is warmed up :)
Bmw has a period on startup that you cant move its like 20 seconds or 40 it has a secondary air pump that helps the oil to warm up so you can go, you can start driving immediately but the fuel consumption is 30 plus for that period of time cause more air more fuel
You should always let the car sit for 30 seconds to let the fluids/ oil circulate into the engine.
You’re technically correct, but you still should allow 30seconds or so in normal temperatures before driving off to let the fluids circulate to a few minutes in extreme cold like that. Only then drive away and let it get to the operating temperature fully.
@@indiebekonn Yes 30 seconds is ok, but some people wait for 5-10 minutes which is too much in my opinion
Afaik healthy engine gets oil pressure imediatelly after start. In low temps. (thick oil) just cranking build enough pressure. Oil gets everywhere imediatelly. But sure letting it idle for few seconds is ok. I do it also :)
As an engineer, I can't help but notice that the temperature is actually falling and is lowest, not highest haha
Nice BMW, you should do the service it demands!
you dont need to be an engineer to notice that. I guess OP is a perfect representative of typical low iq bmw driver
Im guessing he had it serviced at a 3rd party and so the computer hasnt been reset.
@@MMYLDZ should still be able to reset it even if it was done 3rd party done by pressing the bc button or the button on the lest side of the instrument cluster depending on that year the car is
@@lukehinch3441bmws usually require a scan tool
It gets quite cold in Estonia that's for sure. Glad to see such cars being driven though and not just staying in a garage.
What a lovely car
Wow... 182k km. Thats even more than on my 2015 Sandero!
182000 km, you enjoyed the car a lot :)
Also 12km to warm up isn't a lot
Amazing video you earned a sub
bro. If it gets colder, is not rising, is decreasing. Good Vid.
@9.21 Lmao slippery city. Only people who have real winters know!! Cheers from Montreal, Quebec!
I like your videos and real life content! I'm looking to buy M4 Competition this summer i wanna use it as all year daily car, but i'm little bit worried about cold days like this.
Thank you, i have been using this car daily for almost 3 years now. Snow,winter, rain - This car can handle it all. Also service history video coming soon.
@@simplecarchannel7462 Do you ever have troubles with your door closing with frost and ice on the glass because I am with my new M240i?
@@germanengineering204 yes sometimes, when it is very icy and cold
@@simplecarchannel7462 thank you for replying sir! I called BMW direct after the dealership admitting it's ice, and they are in denial, and won't admit it's a common issue, because they don't want to do anything about it! Man it really sucks having to be concerned all winter about this in a brand new car I'm really bummed out about it!😐
Do it Jan, I‘ve got the M4 and it‘s my daily, it‘s a blast, even going to the supermarket is fun! And mine is not the competition, so it doesn‘t sound as good. But I didn’t see much sense at the time…
What a beautifull car! Care of him, with high revs! :P
that dude has some skill
I think having that lithium battery helps, pulling a lot of juice on startup. I recently started up my 15' 328i xdrive in -24c with no issue. Now, you'll want to drive it to get the charge back up when it has sit for a while in the cold! -35c starts a little slower but still good :D Alberta, Canada.
I start my volvo s40 from 2002 with 250k miles with no issues in -30c weather too 🤔
I live in Norway havent had any -20 Celsius lately but I would like to so I can see if my old Audi A3 2005 can start in it. Always exciting to see if it starts when the temps are lower than I have started in it before.
The temperature doesn't rise when it goes into negative. It goes down. That's why it's MINUS 25. So when the temperature DROPS from 0 to -5, we say it LOWERES or FALLS. It doesn't rise to -5.
But, you're from Estonia. So it's understandable.
Here in north europe for use - 25 is like +25 for you.. It rise up
no it goes up lmfao negative is down so from -25 to -5 it does go up xd
BATTERY OK NICE !
GUYS its almost that time of the year again!!!!! cant wait for more snow drifts man
If the car could defend itself, it would break your mouth for this ,,test’’! 👊🏼
that's a lot of km's on an S55 already. original crankhub ? Interesting video
Original crankhub
3 warnings popping up for an eastern BMW that is less than average for sure and only 1000km over service, very well maintained
This channel gonna become famous
Things i learned from this video:
1. Tartu is a city in estland
2. People from Tartu dont take their cars to service
Drink game: Take a shot every time the subtitles say "extreme cold"
great video
Wow almost new car no problem to start in -27C :D
love how the oil temperature is not rising at all 😂
It is the coolant temperature, not actual engine oil temperature.
@@majkels5394 Yup but the oil temp is also not rising at all probably. It took too much time for the coolant temp to rise in my opinion, but its probably, because its really cold lol
@@majkels5394 That's actually the oil temp gauge on the M3/M4's.
@@majkels5394 lol how could it be coolant temp at 120 Celsius operating temperature?
I was stationed in VA and that was the most frustrating thing in the winter. You literally had to let the car idle for 10-20 minutes on cold mornings
don‘t open the door at the window 😖 nice car btw :-)
Одна из самых лучших тачек в мире💯
BMW-Сила!💪🤝👍
Wow, nice. Keep it up!
Thank you
Удивительно, как в такой лютый мороз завёлся 😱
Лютый мороз? ты серёзно?
@@chernoalpha8505 Сарказм, не понимаешь
@@MrGood-ep1nn понимаю
Your car starts smoother in -20 then mine dose in +20😅
That’s sad
As for the heater control, just as fast to temp if you set it and forget it as say 21-22c. Nice car!
Went to statoil two times and didn't even bother getting a coffee... 😃 nice video baltic broski.
Coffe at night does not sound good
5:00 bad idea. The engine needs far longer to heat up in idle speed. Furthermore you're diluting the oil, because the runs on a rich fuel mix, which is mingling with the oil then.
After cold start is done and the revs are dropping (usually 10-15 sek) you should start driving.
I'm only happy to see the mileage on the car, I wouldn't be worried about anything else...
What mileage? Only 180k km? Its not a cheap car with this mileage should be all like new.
@@matijasec1m It's a BMW so...
@@matijasec1m yup, it's being used for what it was developed for and not being a garage queen, not sure what you mean it should be looking like new, it's a motor vehicle, it was developed to be driven to the end of the world.
CRAZY WEATHER
My dream car❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Damn man.
You got some mileage on that rig.
It may be too much on such a car but in the end these cars are therefore to enjoy 👍
@@roberto3261 I totally agree. I’m actually impressed, especially in that weather.
It's km
@@maxzrulzz9832 kilometerage
Hell this winter (normal weather permitting) I will upload a video of my 288k mile 97 540i start up in -42f or colder if anyone's interested. Mines bone stock though so no exhaust shot. Nice M4!
Edit. To anyone wondering. Speaking as a Tech and someone who has owned 2 very high mileage cars dont idle it warm. Start it, scrape your windshield if needed, (otherwise skip) put your seat belt on, set your music and go. Once you have oil pressure you can drive just drive nice and easy until warm. Best way to warm up your car. Idleing causes trans Temps to be super cold and people run to hard on it because the engine is warm and they think they're good
I have a 525i and it has 170k miles and works like a charm
And i was worried about my M4 standing out in -4 before putting it inside the garage. Nice to see you actually using your car, unlike me i am a coward haha. Let it sit in the garage between november and april
BMW be like 🥶 👍IM JUST BING CHILLING
4:35
You sure this isnt a bit too harsh on the Windows?
I would be affraid they burst when doing that on cold windows
Its a BMW, not a Tesla 🐻😊
It is glass not paper
@@user-hc3dr6mx2c Exactly, thats why i am concerned😂
The cars are tested under the coldest conditions. Its ok
How can someone be happy living in a climate like that?
ruclips.net/video/xwyhGwcLE6M/видео.html
because we like the cold:) i dont like more than +20 that just gets really awful but less that that is really good also snow and ice is really fun
I'd rather be cold than sweating my ass off. At least when it's cold you can put as much clothes as you need to be warm but when it's hot you can even get naked and you still can't cool down lol
@@Kabmi sweating is health, your body eliminates toxins
When you are born in Scandinavia it becomes apart of you. I like the cold more than I do the heat. In the summer it gets usually to 30-35 celsius so I just hide in my house. In the winter it gets to about -20 celsius on average. I usually just wear a sweater and normal jeans in -20 celsius.
Great video! Btw, the temperature is getting lower, not higher
Who else agrees that that the spine of his shoes stepping in the snow is Asmr
This would kill your engine if it was M3 E46 after a few starts. Nice that nowadays m-series are much durable.
wtf 182k KM UFFF
When temperature going down like -27, it's at lowest point, not highest. Lol. Btw, video is awesome
These temperatures are every Winter over here. But the cars are doing just great.
Fun to just drift on the snow/ice
The ocean freezes also so we drive the cars on there also😂
Why turn on the heater when the engine is cold? To make it take even longer to warm up? Why would you drive when the engine wasn't up to its operating temperature yet? It hasn't even reached 70 degrees. Starting a combustion engine in this cold weather is a huge STRESS for the engine! You're killing it painfully and slowly....
It is better to drive lightly right way than to idle the car in the cold, as everything will get up to temp faster and result in less time running cold. As long as you aren’t putting high load or revs, driving is better than idling. It would take 10 minutes to hit warm oil temp driving and 30-40 if you are sitting idling. Oil not coolant
All modern BMW have Electric Heating anyway so even when the engine is cold, the cabin can warm up quickly. No point in being cold then ;)
@@jacobhauenstein For me my old Audi A3 2005 takes about 15 mins to begin going over my minimum temperature of 50 celsius and about 20-25 to 90. But I usually drive after turning on my car and removing all the ice and snow from the car. Then it takes time. Constant driving it takes about 10 mins to go up to 90 celsius but when i turn on heating it goes down to 70 so I'd say usually 15 mins of driving its at its optimal temperature.
you can't get operating temp in winter by just waiting pal that would take half of the day no one does that, just drive at low rpm and you'll be good. show me a video where you are waiting in winter for your car to warm up to operating temp. and heater doesn't affect the engine temp pal that's like 0.1% going to heater and he does that to unfreeze the car lmao you want to say that you are driving a cold freezer in the winter?
normal weather day in russia
Almost got a heart attack when you hit the windows 😂😂😂😂
Have you addressed the spinning crank hub issue? Just curious
Warming up without driving in such cold conditions isnt good for the engine. I can tell you this as a mechanical engineer. Driving with rpms up to max 2500 when cold is good, after 70 C° oil temp you can go to higher rpms.
Please do not let the engine warm up while it is stationary.
It's bad for the engine.
The oil cannot distribute itself well in the engine because of the low temperature.
It has to get up to operating temperature as quickly as possible. That can only be done with an immediate start. Little speed, lots of torque. Low-speed.
with thermal expansion in mind that is also a bad thing, with higher tolerances applying torque will also create a lot of wear and with all of that in mind it's hard to say for sure what is the right thing
i think letting the engine idle for about 4 or 5 minutes is appropriate and then drive the car with low rpms and light to medium throttle until operating temps. thats what i do, and the car is running nicely after 6 years.
@@andylie7699 bmw manual says to immediately start driving after start as commenter explains. audi as well. you may have different brand that requires different use
@@bl1n158 doesn't matter how audi and bmw says. Physics is same. And AUDI says is normal 1 litre to 1000 km oil consumption. It's just economy strategy. You broke the car after warranty period is just your pocket to repair or buy one new. It's normal to stay 1-3 minutes for oil circulation in engine. And same if you keep the oil mediocre in your engine 30.000kms just because audi and bmw says is good, you are an idiot.
@@eduardpatru8766 what do you mean with that last comment? Oil mediocre?
now thats what i call a "Cold Start"
I used koch chemie Plast Star on my door sealing so they won't get stuck when its cold because the water cant freeze on them :)
Give you poor car a service
All the errors have been fixed by now
-27 это экстрим холод? Не смешите😂
Они просто в Астане не бывали
Да и в России это обычная температура зимой)))
for the place where he lives, yes. no one talked about the place you live in or have been to.
With such a warm grace it doesn't make it fire. My Mitsubishi fired at -41C.
High mileage F82 being driven sedately in D7 in snow at night with some peaceful slides? What else could I ask for to go with my coffee on a cold winter morning? Subscribed.