Ben Simmons reportedly confused Nets teammates by his lack of a push to play | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- The Brooklyn Nets were swept out of the first round of the NBA playoffs by the Boston Celtics. Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and co faced an intense Celtics defense, spearheaded by defensive player of the year Marcus Smart. However, Ben Simmons made news off the court. Simmons did not suit up for the Nets this season citing mental health and back issues. Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho decide how Nets teammates should feel about Ben Simmons.
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The NETS diverted his game checks to the 76ers as part of the trade agreement, where in the NETS legally have to divert those checks to the 76ers first before Ben get them.
Wait, why are they promoting Skip’s podcast?
These two are some of the most well spoken analysts in sports television
this was awesome. love these guys
Lol are you kidding, they try so hard to sound smart it's embarrassing
@@blakefrancisboggs7526 lol that is their thing on the show....
Lol I prefer the TNT analysts shaq kenny Barkley and Ernie 🤷🏿♂️
Yes, they are very well spoken, informative and entertaining. I love these guys.
Maybe he believes that not playing this season will make him eligible for next seasons ROTY.
😂😂😂😂😂😂☠️
Good 1 buddy
😂
If he goes to china and plays rn, he can be roty and mvp in the same season. :)
Lmfao
It's not confusing...HE IS LYING!!!!
thats what i was sayin
Exactly! He's stealing money, legally!
Why would he NOT want to play,unless something is WRONG!!
Liar, fraud and corruptor
@@spirit13the1st6 yeah wrong with his mind his body is ok bro
What doesn’t make sense about the back injury is doesn’t Ben have to pass a physical in order to get the trade finalize between the Nets and 76ers? So if he passed the physical then what did he do in Brooklyn to cause the injury?
Kendall Jenner
A back injury is the hardest to prove if he's faking...which is likely exactly why he says it's ALLEGEDLY his back.
he said when he gets mentally stressed his back spasms start he need serious therapy
@@jasonsmith5226 exactly he could be hurt
The worst part is that the Nets waived the physical.
If you need time off for your "mental health" issue, take time off. But a player shouldn't get paid for it. If a normal person pulled a Ben Simmons, they would get fired at their job
Sixers wanted proof that he was seeing a psychiatrist. Nothing, then the "back" problem came.
Amen!
And we wouldnt be able to sue the company to get paid for it
This would never fly in a NFL locker room. Football players are more direct, would’ve approached him man to man by now
Basketball is soft
Ehh, nfl is soft too now. It’s a generation thing. Not a league thing
Basketball has a long history of being tough, I think Simmons is going to have to take a massive pay cut if he ever wants to play again or will be bounced out the league soon. What he's done is burn his last chance.
No, no, no!
He would never do this s***t with a Draymond Green, Marcus Smart, Jimmy Butler, and even Westbrook on his team, or in San Antonio or Miami.
@@rubendacostaesilva8442 Actually he would, leak that he's getting pressed by his teammates and become a victim so that the media would start calling the NBA 'toxic masculinity'! You've missed the strategy game being played by management, this is a money game over basketball.
A pro ball player having no heart is now considered mental trauma. Wow.
Don't worry.
His career will be over in 2 years.
Softest mentality I've ever seen.
Exactly...
First issue he can't shoot, Getting called out was #2, and then not working to improve is #3.
Facts
Being a lazy bum
@@dreamcage1801 facts
In the infamous Embiid “call out”, if you listen to the whole thing, Embiid talked about everyone’s mistakes, including his own. The Simmons stuff was cherry picked out of context. Simmons wanted out.
Fwiw - Simmons antics will cost the other players freedom and guarantees in the next CBA. He’s abusing a system that’s been good to the players.
Exactly I can’t believe how much they run with a snippet of something as if it’s the entire fact. Terrible journalism
Totally cherry picked. People stupidly ran with it.
Embiid was also playing with a meniscus tear and getting doubled and triple teamed while BS disappeared in crunch time every game. All 7 games he took and made 3 shots total in the 4th. For a 30 mil man stepping up in crunch time is what you get paid to do.
It would be wise for Brooklyn to just terminate Ben Simmons contract and never renew it.
It’s probably guaranteed. And the Nets, waiving the physical, is in a “buyer beware” situation, they assumed the risk. Seems like the Nets only option is to follow what Philly is doing, place the balance of his contract in an escrow account and force Simmons to hire attorneys to take the whole issue to court or arbitration. He may eventually be awarded his money but he’ll have to take all the steps and time to fight for it.
Ben Simmons is stealing from Brooklyn just like he stole from the 76ers
He doesn’t want to play basketball anymore he just wants to be rich and famous
Stealing money with a gun with no bullets.
@@Zack_P_Panos he's a young socialite full time now
Love hearing Acho and Wiley’s perspectives on this as actual athletes that have run the gauntlet
This dude Wiley thinks Durant is better than Kobe all time. Whatever else comes out his mouth will always be trash from that day on.
@@emunety oh yeah they’ve both had their share of garbage takes. More often than not though I usually prefer their takes as actual athletes as opposed to people like Skip and Colin
This discussion on their segment is a great one!
Lol ESPN is full of athletes that say Ben is soft and a quitter
"I am confused" 😕 I agree with Acho, Ben Simmons is playing hide and seek with the man in the mirror 🪞 "someone make it make sense"
I’ll make it make sense to you. He never planned to play for the Nets this season. He is trying to rob the 76ers of the 20 million dollars they held from him for not working. If he got traded and then immediately played it would show the mental health wasn’t real. Him and a rich Paul are the worst of the worst.
@@trevorv9218 agreed... Halfway, Rich is an agent he does what his client wants him to do. I think the blame is with Ben and his camp.
@@trevorv9218 rich can only do what his client tells him.
@@ThaloniusPFunk rich & LeBron is n the camp with Ben Simmons lol 😆
😂😂😂 this a whole segment of calling Simmons out
Back spasms came from sitting on the bench all day. Bad posture. Next up he’ll say he has carpal tunnel haha.
He plays PUBG too 🤣
He gonna be like I got Nintendo thumb (I know old saying) coach I can't shoot 🤪
He might get cross eyed from rolling them every 5 seconds.
I almost felt bad for Ben Charmin when I heard his “mental-health is causing back problems which is causing me to not play” story, but then I remembered that he’s trying to recoup his 20 Million Dollars from the Sixers for a year of work that he never actually did. And then I remembered him standing on the sideline, jumping up and down in his fancy clothing & shiny jewelry, realizing that this has nothing to do with injury or psychological issues: it has more to do with upholding the perception of him being a victim, stealing money from huge franchises, and pulling in as much attention as possible from the world at large.
Ben Charmin is not a baller. He is a ballroom dancer trying to entertain a crowd that has never been impressed with his moves.
U iz a smart and bad mf (shut cho mouth )
Well said my good sir
Facts bruh. Good stuff u spoke. If I saw Ben out n about We lighting him up
@@TheOne-ql8qd Thank you, my friend.
@@ZESTY_ONE2 That’s the issue I have with a lot of people using mental-health as a cop-out. I am actually diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and Major Depression, and it’s nothing to play around with. Guys like Ben Simmons make the seriousness of mental-health seem trivial and like a joke, and that bothers me as someone who has struggled immensely with the symptoms, addiction stemming from my disorders, suicidal tendencies, etc.
That man is just money-hungry and a spoiled brat.
He didn't play because he wants that 20 million from the 76ers and NBA for not playing all year. It's only about the money!!! 💰
Finally someone says it.
@@kaywire5411 True but he's not getting that money. He's trying to have it go through arbitration so he can recoup some of it because if it goes beyond that all the laundry will be aired.
Not playing hurts his case so i dont think thats it. I think he doesnt like basketball anymore and should retire.
Did anyone actually listen to Embiid's post game presser after the Hawks series? Embiid didn't even call out Simmons, that was literally the media that pushed that narrative. Embiid literally called out his turnovers and other things before he even got to passing up a layup and missing a freethrow. He didn't call Simmons out, he just stated facts of the game. Please tell me how that can cause mental health issues? When Simmons heard the media narrative he got mad and decided he wanted to be traded. Like Wiley said, this mental health thing came when he realized he wasn't getting his money. Let's not forget he also got engaged when suffering from mental health. Serious mental health issues don't develop after one statement is made that's not even directly about you. The crazy part is that nobody states how Embiid, doc, and Sixers supported him all last season and for the 3 seasons before. It was the media that was constantly bringing up his inability to shoot and his decline in the playoffs.
All facts.
Mental health is a lifelong struggle.
Some of us have them even without a doctor saying as much..
@@RUclipsCensors That is why you should be mad that this guy is using a very real issue to steal money.
Us philly fans tried to warn everyone about Ben and I love Ben. He’s all about the money and has no passion for basketball 🏀. He’s losing what little backers he has
And here man. Literally defended ben up until he turned his back on the city. Wish him nothing but the best, but boy is his own worst enemy. Until he tackles accountability he’ll never be truly good.
Wow you guys are so smart. Who did you have to warn? People were warning you before you even drafted him 😂. Dude was been a loser since he was at LSU. Acting like you guys were the ones who figured it out. It’s been figured out before y’all drafted him. The stinks still on Philly.
@@emunety yes but media and other cities said we booed him for no reason. They made us out to be monsters backing that slacker
He's all about the money
Has no passion for the game.
"I love ben" lmao
@@emunety uh nets fans who were all hype about it. Pretty obvious. All that other stuff I don’t understand the relevance
Mental health issues don't go away overnight even if you are removed from the root of the issue
However, it's tough to tell if Ben really does have mental health issues (or back issues for that matter) because of how he has handled the situation and all of his issues are very conveniently timed.
It takes months to heal . You need a calm society . And being really scared of something can lead to spasm, but if your a millionaire I don't know if you counter it with luxury, maybe
Nothing is worst then being a player balling on the court contributing trying to win making 5 mil and this dude sitting on the bench making 50 mil. Yes, players start counting pockets.
Hope it makes them want to improve instead of going the bitter route
Lol they got a sensitive dude in KD, a delusional headcase in Kyrie, and the softest player in the league in Simmons. They are literally the Big 3 of dysfunctional players.
Imagine if Harden was still there w/ that crew..far and away the most dysfunctional team in the NBA
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That man is unbelievable and some ppl had the nerve to defend him even up until this point.
Yeah they thought he just made stuff up to get out of philly and he'd play right away. Instead he got out and is sitll doing the same thing. Except now the only thing he does more of is sit on the sidelines
there are some sadly still defending him
It's his relatives. Pls, understand.
@@tainanking he did make it up but even I thought he would have no choice but to just dig down and suit up for the Nets when he got there and nope. This dude further pussyfied hisself and sat out a whole year (in his prime) because he’s scared to touch a basketball court. He’s scared to be in any public place where he can be chastised in general.
@@ryuu2890 huh? Dude has shown this since I first seen him at LSU. It was even said by his high school coach and on his scouting report from high school. He quits, he’s narcissistic, aloof, distant, no competitive fire, and lacks passion.
IF BEN PLAYED HE WOULDN'T GET PAID BECAUSE IT'LL COME OFF AS IF HE WAS LYING WHICH HE IS... DONT PAY HIM A DIME
Exactly.
Question: can Ben keep this up for 3 years and get paid his entire salary until the end of his contract? Are their no legal remedies? It's just crazy...
Depends on the contract stipulations. How much is guaranteed, how much is incentive based.
It was really not smart for the Nets to sign in after what they saw in Philly. And I don't feel bad for any organization if they are getting stuck with a guaranteed contract because organizations and owners could and can just cut players without blinking an eye and the contracts doesn't mean anything.
@@gregorylagrange his contract is fully guaranteed unless he retires
They can do what the sixers did and put it in escrow but this stuff is ridiculously regular people can’t just have mental health and not work and get paid tf outta here with spoiled mess
The sixers didn’t pay him
@@kingspeech2240 lol exactly..
Tbh they shouldn’t feel any of this. He showed you who he is a long time ago.
yep
I been done with Ben Simmons. He definitely got some issues he needs to handle.
cant wait for that day in 4 years when he dont get another contract and i never must hear this name anymore
Ben Simmons should just retire... 😂
He hurt the back picking up that check!
It was a hype machine dat put Simmons on the level ppl expect to see a superstar but he's not and never has been
Ben Simmons runs from EVERY situation he gets into, he ran away from LSU, he ran away from The Sixers and NOW he probably wants to leave the Nets! I'm from Philly and we Sixers fans TOLD y'all what Ben Simmons was REALLY about!
We been knowing what he was about💀ima okc fan and even I know. Idc what no one says 6ixers should’ve kept Fultz bc he’s looking wayy better than Simmons
@@Darealmenxce talent wise I disagree with you but HEARTWISE he's TEN TIMES better than Simmons!!
@@bigdaddyl-rob7445 Fultz had injury and shooting problems. He recieved nothing but hate for his jumper and even got traded. If Ben was the same height as a guard, he would be another Russ or won’t be in the nba at all. Fultz worked on his shooting and he’s still improving and he can knock down shots now. Simmons isn’t willing to improve or willing to play basketball. If he keeps this on I don’t think he’ll last in the nba
@@Darealmenxce on THAT we agree 1000%!!!! You GOTTA give Fultz credit for standing up to the criticism, meanwhile Ben runs away from it! Ben Simmons will be out of the league within 5 years!
anyone with a brain knows Ben Simmons is a lying sack of sh-t.
As a sixes fan don't expect much from Ben we were waiting for any improvement, he gave us none. Same player he was when he came to the league. The dude just don't improve. Expect 20 points one night and 2 the next thinking he is winning games with assists. He does not believe in the jumpshot.. This is a fact.
Another problem is Simmons does not average 10+ assists, he could be a consistent triple double machine but he just lack effort. What a waste of talent
I always thought he was overrated to begin with and so happy for my main Embiid he no longer has to deal with Ben Simmons non shooting nonsense!!! A basketball player that can't shoot... maaan he's been stealing since Day one!!!
This exactly! A guard that can't shoot yet somehow is worth a max deal?
@@SundownCamry now he has a bigger head case in Harden
@@SundownCamry For your information: There is much more than just shooting in basketball.
@@bhans5202 he is not a bigger headcase. Ben Simmons is a study case.
Should have stayed in school for 2 more years
That last YOU'RE SELFISH at the end 😂
WTF is he talking about the fans led to his mental health issues? When exactly did THIS happen? He hasn't played since Hawks series! Fans were cheering him on that game! Get your facts straight dude
This may be your best work yet Marcellus and E-man, I see the improvements keep up the good work.
There’s no validity to his mental health claims b/c he’s not showing that he’s proactively seeking assistance to overcome those issues & basketball again. You want that money you gotta hoop bruh.
I’m laughing because everybody thought Brooklyn would just skip too the finals like they don’t have a bad coach lol.
Am I the only person who knew Ben was not gonna play at all this season?? It was obvious
Ben Simmons didn't do everything he could to play for the Nets, neither did Kyrie Irvin
This kid needs to go to a franchise that has no hopes of making the playoffs.
Send them to Orlando or Houston. This man needs to be off television and away from the public eye until he can rebuild confidence.
Agree, G league r best for that
I’m a Philly fan living in Florida, I would hate that 😂 😂. And I do agree
Send him to Sacramento.
Let’s be honest look at where he went to college he went to LSU a decent basketball school but at the time they didn’t really have anyone he chose them over Duke unc Kansas and other basketball powerhouses just to be the guy in a mediocre team he’s just happy he in the league he got a big nba check he good he never wanted to be too tier he’s good where he’s at that’s all he wants he has a Kardashian and a guaranteed nba check he added nothing to his game in the time he been in the league look at Giannis
He's not dating her anymore. She said he was too emotional 😭
@@freeffree4133 😂😂😂
Ben hasn't been the same since he split up with Kendall Jenner ( Devin Booker now), hmmmm.
Acho keeping it real, Wiley deluded.
Yeah. I think brother Marcellus has to be a contrarian on certain topics to brother Emmanuel, just so the show doesn't become monotonous, and stays fresh. I feel behind the scenes, he feels very similar to Acho (outside of being in a teammate's pockets), on the Ben Simmons topic. But on air, to keep the variety.. he has to take up for Ben Simmons, just so they're not agreeing too much, on certain topics.
Only way Ben Simmons can redeem himself is if he help the Nets Win a Ring next season anything less he gonna get ran out of town
I think he's going to get ran out of the league regardless, this is his last big contract, he's bad for the NBA.
its phantom pain. my sister has the same thing. its the fear which enables the pain. it becomes the excuse for not being able to do the thing you actually want to avoid because of the fear.
Marcellus when he says I know where the back issues came from he talking about Maya Jama!!!!😂😂😂😂
I agree with Acho on this one. Everyone lost with Simmons sitting out
They really should've been able to win without Ben
Good commentary. I agree with you guys 💯!
I remember so many people saying it was the 76ers fault and they were being cruel and that they were just really toxic, and so many people hopped on the Ben Softmmons with the Nets bandwagon. But we tried and tried and tried to tell everyone that this foolishness would continue in Brooklyn.
Honestly I don't think he wants to be in the NBA anymore, hence why he's going after that 20M so he can bounce and it'll be like his severance package.
Funny how everyone thought he was gonna change in Brooklyn and critiqued everyone who said he wasn't gonna change and look what happened.
Did he just say that the court of popular opinion sided with Ben Simmons after that disgusting Series against the Hawks?
Not defending Simmons at all, but acho really showed ignorance with mental health. Mental health affects regardless of outside influence. Robin Williams killed himself and he had everything. If Simmons legit had mental health issues, going to the nets don't solve it. Thing is he don't really have it, he just has an ego and choked and now scared, but acho usually is better. Wiley called it out.
I guess your another sucker who believes any 🐂 💩 someone tells you he wants his money and using the mental health and back injury to milk this the NBA needs to step in and say if either you play or your contract gets voided
Why confused? When Doc Rivers a prominent coach could not handle him why would steve nash can? Ben Simmons has issues and Nets doesn’t know it?😁😁
I love how that hand with the stack of notes 📝 popped into the screen as they were delivered to Marcellus Wiley, PLEASE CONTINUE TO DO THAT, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF COOL😎 🆒️, THAT FAST SLIGHT OF THE HAND ACTION. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK EVERYONE. 👍 👌
Ben is broken goods, they need to stop wasting time with him and drop him
Wiley with the eyes wide open and the crazy gesture and then 'he about life' lol he a fool
He got hurt sitting on his couch playing on his PlayStation. Dude needs to start rehab asap
He didn’t have a problem cashing that $ 20 million check
Ben Simmons really needs help
It could be playoff competition that’s causing Ben problems.
Think about it... Ben Simmons just missed a entire season for no reason
First off I want to say I am not fighting for Ben Simmons but I will say mental health can affect your back in many different ways
Explain your logic.🤔😑
My family member suffered from sever anxiety issues. Every time anxiety kicks in gastro issues precedes.
Guys this segment on the Ben Simmons play or nay saga is excellent. Acho had some great player experiences that related and I wish Marcellus had shared more of his own. I still don’t know where to line up on Ben’s health and lack of play. I just want a great defensive player like him to play again.
Seems like Ben Simmons is the nba version of jay cutler 😂😂😂
Acho is right he's coming from a stand point of a player a fan a team mate and a guy who wasn't rich didn't have a huge contract or a secure job. Team comes first that's the big problem with sports dudes get to the pros and now just wanna make it about money
The nets have the 3 biggest divas in NBA History
He true issues weren't with the Philly fans or players but instead with himself. He lost confidence in his game and probably blames himself for the reason they lost with turning up that layup and then not shooting in the subsequent games. You have removed him from Philly but you haven't removed him from outside of his own head
Ben Simmons doesn’t hold himself accountable and he doesn’t think he was the sole reason the 76ers lost last season to Atlanta. Go and watch the presser after Game 7. He wore a face mask to hide is face from the Philly media because he’s scared of criticism and being held accountable. Prior to that Game 7 presser, he wasn’t wearing a mask at all lmao… you can’t make this up. He knows that he hasn’t gotten better at all from Game 7, this whole summer, and till now… that’s why he’s scared to play lmao… He doesn’t love basketball… I keep telling y’all.
@@ike.o6944 u actually just agreed he with what he just said. “He wore a mask to hide” THAT is literally the point, he’s afraid to death…. He made the mistake of not pushing himself hard enough and allowed his bad habits to bring an enormous amount of criticism his way. The result being an individual who is mentally damaged by the backlash of his own shortcomings. It’s common for players to form mental blocks against the game of basketball after not playing for an extended period of time, it typically happens after injury but in this case, a trade demand. Ben has to tackle this head on, he’ll get in a lot of high level, all out runs this summer (can’t get it during the season since guys are playing games) so he SHOULD be able to work his mind back into nba basketball. It’s all up to him now.
Agreed
The dude is a wannabe celebrity. He’s not interested in being the best basketball player he can be. He wants the luxury lifestyle that basketball provides. Nobody held him accountable up until last year and when you’ve been babied your whole life, you can’t handle criticism. He’s a weak minded, self centered clown.
"How yo mental health issues lead to A lower back spasms?!?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ben Simmons got that Dwight Howard injury
Ben Simmons is a BUST
Bust Hall of Fame nominee
Jamarcus Russell of the nba
"He bout life" 😂😂😂
Ben needs to retire from basketball.
Ben Simmons is a Lemon. Nets need to ask for a refund!! 😀 🤣🤣😅
Love this debate gentlemen!!!
One of those ones where they both made great opposing arguments AND both are right (in my opinion).
Acho: "There's no 'I' in 'team'."
Wiley: "Nope, but there is a 'me'."
The quote is actually
"But there is 'i' in 'win'." Michael J. Jordan
;-)
They were trying to have Ben pull a hamstring trying to play defense 😂
Wow! Ben Simmons is still in the league?
Not for long if he stays like this. Man is about to be Bynum 2.0
Imagine what Nash thinks about Ben. Steve Nash played years with back pain and used to lie on the floor sometimes, because his back was so effed up.
Man, he's stealing money, he should just retire or the Nets should remove themselves from this situation ASAP, he's never gonna ever be the same again.
Oh snap. These guys are good commentators. The banter is fire. Impressive.
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@@K.C.C.L I must admit they are quite good. A little biased at time, ignorant of some important facts but the banter is incredible. Clearly, good entertainment.
The Nets are suffering from the Atlantic Yards CBA curse. They built the arena and the nearby housing with community support and signed a Community Benefits Agreement (CBA) in 2005. After they got the arena, they ditched the community and sparked gentrification. The people who fought for the arena got pushed out of the community. I told Nets fans at the beginning of the season that I do not think they will ever win a championship there because of what they did to that community.
Remember Nash with the Lakers? His back was messed up but he PLAYED and laid down on the sideline hoping to get more minutes!
This is so dangerous to discuss a person’s mental health like this. They have absolutely no clue what he is dealing with mentally. The “mental health” is “behind” you. This is so irresponsible for ESPN to air this and these guys to discuss this.
It’s all about the 20 million to keep leverage in the lawsuit in using the mental health excuse
I guess they don't know a LIE when they hear ONE Ben doesn't want to play PERIOD
Even though they literally said it
Yeah but nobody cares about anybody else when it is time to get their money. The greatest quote I have heard is when it's a game they "management" wants it to be a game but when they want to be a business they want it to be a business.
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I don't know about anyone else... But my whole life since I was a kid, whenever I was getting ready to fight, my lower back would tense up like crazy... So I definitely know that stress can cause lower back tightness... With that being said, as soon as the fist start flying, that lower back tightness went away and adrenaline took over.. So he just needs to force himself onto the court and fight
Lol it didn't start when Joel called him out. It started when Ben could not make open lay ups in the Hawks game.
Ben 'the Tinder Swindler' Simmons lol
What has sports turned into? Players of yesteryear must be like ‘What!?!’
Simmons should have been playing, but with only one game left I get sitting out. Many people have mental health problems but still find a way to go to work every day.
Where did the Back Spasms come from Marcellus lol.
I must say it's really amusing to see two former football players debating basketball it just shows the versatility 💯✅✊🏿
Marcellus Wiley graduated from an Ivy League college. You are looking at college graduates who happened to play football. Acho has a degree in sports management not football.
No they all just talk about the same issues on every sports show. Its all a script.
THIS MAKES RICH PAUL LOOK BAD TOO