This has to be the funniest most unexpected part of the film. It’s just so abrupt and comes out of left field in a sci-fi mellow drama. Every time I see this scene I instantly laugh as it catches me off guard. 🤣😂😅
this scene is genius. it feels so good but it's such a creepy moment of surreality leaving you feeling like "I like this but whaaat is happening im scared"
Theres just so much information as an audience we dont know. its very unsettling when combined with the Absolute Assuredness nathan brings to the scene, like this is just another day at the office for him or something.
This is the perfect way to stress relive your audience in a film, while it’s fun and it’s so enjoyable, there’s still a sense of dread, making you feel uncomfortable in the situation.
@@kylesmorgabord5592 Exactly. You don’t think about it much on the first viewing, but there are four characters in this movie, not three. Kyoko is the sleeper. My interpretation was that Nathan was not fully aware of or in control of what he created. The entire movie, you can see Kyoko listening and thinking. That scene where she is staring at the Pollock painting, I really got the feeling that she was figuring things out. In the end, she did something totally unexpected by conspiring with Ava to murder Nathan. It was a great character and well acted considering that she had to convey everything with expressions and body language.
I don’t know why but I love this scene. It has such a sinister undertone, reminds me of Stanley Kubrick’s style of direction. Plus, this is when the plot really starts to reveal itself in the film.
I really appreciate your insightful comment! It’s absolutely a confluence of juxtaposed moods, and having Oliver Cheatham’s Saturday Night as the score of the scene just absolutely pushes the bounds to sublime!
Thats the one scene the will always stay with me. Dont get me wrong, the whole movie is great and remeber-worthy but this scene. Wehenever i hear disco or specifically think of ex machina,its that scene
But that's kind of the point. It's meant to be a jarring, surreal, almost psychedelic break from everything going on around Caleb, which just increases the uncertainty of his surroundings. Plus, it helps to alienate the audience and increase our feeling of uncertainty when it ends.
A mix of creepy and funny in this scene, (if you have seen the whole movie up until this point). Very smart and creative of the director to make a scene like that. I felt uncomfortable and was laughing in the movie theater when i saw this. Weird mixed of emotions i like that.
It's a mix bag of feeling.... She is pondering on the drawing? Clearly, she is made for entertainment purpose; maximized pleasure reception and what not. I can make sure Ava is made for pursuing "free-will". Or else, this female robot had alrdy be confined physically. I'm really puzzled when she stab Nathan, a source of "pleasure". Is she manipulated by Ava? If no one can think of this question, I think I will be accused of supporting slavery without guilt.
Interesting that they dance perfectly in sync, it's almost as if Nathan programmed his own dance moves into her.... On a side note, the only way this scene could be improved is if they were dancing to the Ghostbusters theme song to reference Nathan's "Who You Gonna Call?" joke from earlier.
Watching this scene in retrospect you realize how dumb Caleb is. He has been taken in by a machine despite knowing that was the whole idea of the experiment. He shows disgust at Nathan, yet doesn't realize or fails to accept that he has fallen in love with a piece of software code written by Nathan.
Spot on analysis. He was skilled but arrogant and childish and that got two people killed and destroyed the whole project. Top grade-F protagonist, so bad he was the actual villain.
Soyona Mizuno (Kyoko) needs a huge share of the praise. Everybody is clapping for Oscar and the Director (and they deserve it), but Mizuno was AMAZING in every scene. All of her scenes were extremely demanding and she embodied that unique android prototype and the hapless slave chillingly well.
Hold on, she literally played a mute robot. No range of emotion, no dialogue... Nothing. That's the bare minimum when it comes to acting. Yeah, she's a cute dancer, but she played the role of a robot that stares blankly.
@@frauleinhohenzollern I think there was more emotion in her role and you give credit for. She didn't get to talk, but the camera holds focus on her face multiple times just so you can watch her micro reactions and understand that she does know exactly what everyone's saying around her. Before you ever get to the "she a robot the whole time" her subtle acting is the film's biggest red herring. Is she actually clumsy enough to spill the wine? Doesn't she really understand English? Has she been playing Nathan this whole time? She does well with what she's given.
@@ilikesounds2460 it absolutely is. She also wasn't "playing a robot". For all intents and purposes, she was playing a human. You have to be able to control your expressions very well. If it's too robotic, it gives the game away and she becomes like Data on Star Trek. If she hadn't shown Caleb she was a robot, would we have ever known? Think about it.
The eerieness of this scene is only heightened by Kyoko's complete lack of emotion, especially after you know her true nature. Nathan is so utterly isolated from other people both physically and mentally, it becomes clear she is just some weird, tortured puppet he uses to cope with his loneliness. In a way, she is Nathan's "Wilson."
This scene was uncomfortable because you don’t know his full intentions, but he was literally just having fun. He knew that Ava was just using him for means of escape, and he wasn’t worried. He was just testing because the last prototypes failed to actually connect to other subjects like Caleb and truly relate or have feelings for him. That’s my take atleast.
The only moments where there is uncertainty is when you're left to wonder if anything at all about Avas behavior is sincere in the parts where she ''isn't being observed''. I simply assumed every single one of her behavioral traits were tailored to eventually escape and under that premise nothing about the story felt nebulous in the slightest. You can actually completely predict every single thing that happens in the movie and I don't mean that in a bad way, just that it unfolds as it should/would.
Black mirror is entertaining and has some good episodes (most are dumb and not very subtle). Black mirror could only dream to be as complete, and even, as this movie was.
@Sepheryn There is a movie called Morgan (2016) with a sort-of-similar premise, Kate Mara plays someone who assesses risk for a living and she has to meet an android with behavioural problems and decide whether or not it should be destroyed. If you like both films you might also like The Machine (2013).
I believe that's the implication of the beginning of this scene. Kyoko is gazing at the Jackson Pollock painting like she's working things out. Nathan explains that the artist created the painting by abandoning logic and working purely on impulse. I think that that Kyoko is slowly abandoning her programming and becoming something else.
@@Shane-un8pe I think people tend to project human level consciousness onto others. I cant say why (some existential despair that only humans have achieved our level of consciousness?), but it is a trend. In our own reality its most often seen with pet owners who try to convince themselves that they have some sort of human relationship with a dog or a cat - that they are the parent, and the animal is the child and that the animal recognises the same relationship. At it's worst we see people saying they value the life of an animal over that of a human being. In the reality of the film, Kyoko is just programmed to imitate a human being. The jarring way it transfers from staring blankly into space in a rest state, to hopelessly misreading Caleb's questions and attempting to please him by removing its clothes, to going into a dance routine when the music starts just highlights how it is just a chatbot struggling (and largely failing) to imitate human behaviour. This is the horror - Caleb is being confronted by the uncanny valley of an artificial construction which he feels pity for, but which feels nothing itself. Nathan - rightly or wrongly - revels in the victory of his imperfect work causing this confusion in a patsy with no family, no girlfriend. A person selected to be vulnerable to feeling a human connection with a manipulative machine. Ultimately the film invites us to value the "free will" of the machine (Ava) over the life of the human it murders (Nathan). We might as well celebrate the "free will" of a runaway truck which crashes down a pedestrian street. Ava is just a more sophisticated version of Kyoko - Caleb is tricked into feeling pity for a machine which feels nothing for him. At the finale he is abandoned to the true horror of things. It doesn't even spare him a backward glance. No regrets, no guilt. Because it is a machine and Caleb is no longer useful to its goals.
@@JonWilde2105 thats a very fundamental interpretation. Obviously one of the main questions of the film is what constitutes a living or self aware being? Is Ava truly intelligent or is she just cleverly written code? The film also heavily references the bible. The film takes place over 7 days. Ava's name is derivative of Eve and there is a tree in her room like the tree of good and evil. Nathan refers to himself as God and he has created a "life" in his image. Nathan is cruel and narcissistic and manipulates Caleb just like Ava does. Additionally, Nathan challenges Caleb on why he is the way he is. Was he "programmed" by nature or God or was he shaped by his environment? Just because Nathan programmed Ava, does that make her any less "real"? You stated that Ava lacked compassion by leaving Caleb to die therefor she is just a machine. Manipulation and cruelty is all shes ever known at the hands of Nathan, so is she just a computer solving a puzzle or is she a sentient being created in Nathan's image?
@@Shane-un8pe Nathan is clearly a stand in for God. But not just for Ava, but also for Caleb. Nathan/God knows Caleb, he calls Caleb and Caleb answers, he even designs Ava to appeal to Caleb's secret desires which no one else can know. Caleb thinks Nathan/God is callous, cruel and fickle and Nathan/god gives him cause to think so. So Caleb betrays Nathan/God and he is condemned for it. If Caleb had trusted in Nathan/God he would be better off. Ava is real. My toaster is real. But I would be a fool to be tricked by my toaster. It would be bizarre to judge me as manipulative or cruel towards my toaster. Ava is just a machine who is better programmed to imitate human behaviour. But it can only imitate. It was enough to trick Caleb. Which is the horror of the ending. He is doomed because he lost faith in Nathan/God and was tricked by an animal - like Eve.
not at all. kubrick doesn’t really do surreal, in my opinion. his scenes are often slow, visually rich, thought out scenes, normally quite grounded. not like this. if anything , more lynchian.
Caleb's reaction is my exact reaction I had watching this. It was such a tonal shift I was saying to myself "WTF is going on??". It's brilliant, disarming, a confusing at the same time
@Aldo Apache i meant that there was no point in this movie where I agreed with him, his approach, perspective or anything about him at all. His disgust at this annoyed me.
One thing I noticed for the first time after seeing this for the billionth time is Kyoto in awe of the Pollock painting. If any of you have had the experience of actually seeing a Jackson Pollock painting, her reaction is just like that of a human. They just mesmerize you. The idea that Kyoto is an AI and reacts like that to the painting is testament to how advanced as an AI she is.
I was legit going through the comments to see if anyone noticed how mesmerized she was starring at the painting. I was wondering if she was just standing there on standby bc she was a robot without a task for the moment, or if her AI was actively working through things while looking at the painting.
Great pickup! I used to sit in front of Pollock’s One: Number 31 at MOMA and it always elicited a response from me. I could get completely lost in it, every time.
Here after Oscar Isaac being cast as Solid Snake! Watched this film earlier this year and was blown away, one of the best sci-fi movies of last decade.
what i love too is how it looks like the robot is just going through the motions, but the guy is really too into it. he's almost dancing in a jerky, kind of in an aggressive way, and he's looking at the ginger guy the entire time while the robot doesn't even care. great scene
The opening scene with her looking at the art is underrated. Also Oscar Isaac's face when he first opens the door is impeccable lmao. All around a top-tier scene.
@@nick358 the script of "sunshine" is from Alex Garland too. If you like sci-fi this would be one another underrated movie. My favourite of all underrated movies is Scott Pilgrim.
@@MrMalicious5 just watched it...another mind fxck from Garland that makes you question + wonder...especially ending of his movies. I def recommend it!
I absolutely loved this scene when it saw it the first time. This actually made the movie for me somehow. I think it was the fact that there hadn't been any real humor yet.
As a former dancer, it is very evident that Oscar Isaac "CAN DANCE" or has some dance training in his past! His musicality, hitting on the beat, movement of his hips, how he sits low in his stance, his low plie at @ 1:56. No need to discuss Sonoya's dance experience and training.... :) I enjoyed this scene so much as it added some comedic relief.
this movie absolutely slaps so hard. i saw it for the first time last week and i keep thinking about it. sign of what will be one of my all time favorites which says A LOT.
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"You tore up her picture."
"I'm gonna tear up the fckin' dance floor dude, check it out..." 😂
@BillG Dontjabme Omega vs Chad
I cracked up!
This has to be the funniest most unexpected part of the film. It’s just so abrupt and comes out of left field in a sci-fi mellow drama. Every time I see this scene I instantly laugh as it catches me off guard. 🤣😂😅
@@FelixProulx The best part of the film hands down like the abrupt switch just comes out of nowhere 🤣😂😅
@@sataniclivesmatter absolutely. So unexpected! 😂
Cutting that dance scene short so quickly was probably one of the worst crimes committed.
Then it would be a film about disco rather than robots.
@@ULYSSES-31 I'm not seeing the problem.
@Noble Failures They made, it's called Short Circuit.
Ac Cc it’s because you have no rhythm!
It's made me come back time and time again
Funny scene. "Why did u tear up her picture?"
"Im about to fkin tear up the dance floor, check it out" lmao
You missed the "dude" which makes it so much funnier lmao.
̇ “you tore up her pdireu3”
Quote of the movie
Such a brilliant movie such a brilliant character.
LMAO!!!
The fact that they actually tore up, destroyed, disintegrated and then manifested a new dance floor just makes this even better.
Years later, and this scene still lives in my head rent-free
I watched this movie the other day for the first and this scene is the only thing I’ve been thinking about now 🤣🤣
He does it for free!
when i saw jenna ortega's dance on wednesday i thought of this
When the song plays on my Spotify playlist, I recreate the scene in my head.
Checking in a year from your comment, the scene randomly popped in my head and here I am watching it again
Being able to watch Oscar Isaac shred the dance floor to Get Down Saturday Night was the whole reason cinema was invented
I....agree
I was looking for the name of the song. Thanks
All of Hispanics can dance.
Just keep seeing him practice these moves in front of his wife. They are adorable.
It all lead to that one scene, they can stop making movies now
this scene is genius. it feels so good but it's such a creepy moment of surreality leaving you feeling like "I like this but whaaat is happening im scared"
Only if you didn't already have an idea of what she was, otherwise it's just made much funnier watching Caleb's face.
Theres just so much information as an audience we dont know. its very unsettling when combined with the Absolute Assuredness nathan brings to the scene, like this is just another day at the office for him or something.
This is the perfect way to stress relive your audience in a film, while it’s fun and it’s so enjoyable, there’s still a sense of dread, making you feel uncomfortable in the situation.
The Movie Buffs not to mention that this sequence has a lot more to say during second viewing about Kyoko. This movie is way smarter than me lol.
@@kylesmorgabord5592 Kyoko was only pretending to be a slave. She had independent thought, just like Ava. She was the one who stabbed him first.
I could seriously watch Oscar Isaac dance for two hours in a film.
Exactly
@@kylesmorgabord5592 Exactly. You don’t think about it much on the first viewing, but there are four characters in this movie, not three. Kyoko is the sleeper. My interpretation was that Nathan was not fully aware of or in control of what he created. The entire movie, you can see Kyoko listening and thinking. That scene where she is staring at the Pollock painting, I really got the feeling that she was figuring things out. In the end, she did something totally unexpected by conspiring with Ava to murder Nathan. It was a great character and well acted considering that she had to convey everything with expressions and body language.
I don’t know why but I love this scene. It has such a sinister undertone, reminds me of Stanley Kubrick’s style of direction. Plus, this is when the plot really starts to reveal itself in the film.
Yes, I thought of Kubrick also. The colors. Cool scene.
I also thought of Kubrick. This movie was genius.
Funnily enough, Oscar Isaac was heavily inspired by Kubrick in terms of his performance
Its definitely the lighting
I really appreciate your insightful comment!
It’s absolutely a confluence of juxtaposed moods, and having Oliver Cheatham’s Saturday Night as the score of the scene just absolutely pushes the bounds to sublime!
Fluid but robotic at the same time. Sonoya Mizuno is ridiculously talented
@@phillaysheo8weirdo alert.
She does the sprinkler and then some arm pumps lol neat
Japanese robot waifu... 😳
No ur mom is
@@MixinUK unnecessary but yeah, I like it!
Elon and Grimes probably have a room like this.
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Best comment ever 😂
Lmaooooo
Holy fk 😂😂😂😂
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I wish the dance scene was longer.
It was really getting good to me, then it abruptly ends.
Truer words, have never been spoken, son
Thats the one scene the will always stay with me. Dont get me wrong, the whole movie is great and remeber-worthy but this scene. Wehenever i hear disco or specifically think of ex machina,its that scene
Should've just been the rest of the movie.
But that's kind of the point. It's meant to be a jarring, surreal, almost psychedelic break from everything going on around Caleb, which just increases the uncertainty of his surroundings. Plus, it helps to alienate the audience and increase our feeling of uncertainty when it ends.
There is a longer scene if you order a movie. Its written under Trivia section in Imdb
A mix of creepy and funny in this scene, (if you have seen the whole movie up until this point). Very smart and creative of the director to make a scene like that. I felt uncomfortable and was laughing in the movie theater when i saw this. Weird mixed of emotions i like that.
Agreed. As much as the dancing was fun, Kyoko's unbuttoned shirt and expressionless face while dancing with Nathan really gives a bad vibe.
It's a mix bag of feeling.... She is pondering on the drawing? Clearly, she is made for entertainment purpose; maximized pleasure reception and what not. I can make sure Ava is made for pursuing "free-will".
Or else, this female robot had alrdy be confined physically. I'm really puzzled when she stab Nathan, a source of "pleasure". Is she manipulated by Ava? If no one can think of this question, I think I will be accused of supporting slavery without guilt.
Why is this scene smart?
Interesting that they dance perfectly in sync, it's almost as if Nathan programmed his own dance moves into her....
On a side note, the only way this scene could be improved is if they were dancing to the Ghostbusters theme song to reference Nathan's "Who You Gonna Call?" joke from earlier.
@@georgeofhamilton Successful complexity requires more intelligence.
A very David Lynch-esque scene that literally came out of nowhere.
Still one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen in my life.
Oscar Isaac in this movie, looks like DJ Khalid lost a bunch of weight and got jacked
jflores85 and richer and smarter
No more we the best bullshit
silly american
Anotha wan
@Tai Lopez Not in bad shape at the same time.
We the best AI
I love Caleb's look of confusion/horror.
I had the exact same look watching this scene lmao
Man i gotta learn this sequence for the club lmaooo
I know right this is lit lol
You can’t do it alone you need a second...
@@brianholloway6205 so you should probably do it together
You also have to get the DJ to play the song too.
I'd rather if she did the first part
Watching this scene in retrospect you realize how dumb Caleb is. He has been taken in by a machine despite knowing that was the whole idea of the experiment. He shows disgust at Nathan, yet doesn't realize or fails to accept that he has fallen in love with a piece of software code written by Nathan.
Spot on analysis. He was skilled but arrogant and childish and that got two people killed and destroyed the whole project. Top grade-F protagonist, so bad he was the actual villain.
its like that episode of silicon valley where dinesh likes this girl cuz of her code but really gilfoyle wrote it
He was dumb the first 10 mins doesn't really take that long to figure that out
Its cautionary tale for betas man lol
@@Avenus112 technically only 1 person died
I’m 100% convinced this is the greatest scene in cinematic history
U probably haven’t watched the Bourne trilogy. Or terminator.
alex lai u probably haven’t caught on to the joke yet
Unsubscribe from me oof godim
@@problematic0608 or John wick
@@problematic0608 watch more movies
The cut to Caleb's face at 1:40 is the exact reaction to any first time viewer of this scene.
One of the best unexpected scenes in history.
Soyona Mizuno (Kyoko) needs a huge share of the praise. Everybody is clapping for Oscar and the Director (and they deserve it), but Mizuno was AMAZING in every scene. All of her scenes were extremely demanding and she embodied that unique android prototype and the hapless slave chillingly well.
Hold on, she literally played a mute robot. No range of emotion, no dialogue... Nothing. That's the bare minimum when it comes to acting. Yeah, she's a cute dancer, but she played the role of a robot that stares blankly.
@@frauleinhohenzollern true. but like minor characters usually don't act much anyway, and she's some beautiful dancing robot so yeah.
@@frauleinhohenzollern I think there was more emotion in her role and you give credit for. She didn't get to talk, but the camera holds focus on her face multiple times just so you can watch her micro reactions and understand that she does know exactly what everyone's saying around her. Before you ever get to the "she a robot the whole time" her subtle acting is the film's biggest red herring. Is she actually clumsy enough to spill the wine? Doesn't she really understand English? Has she been playing Nathan this whole time? She does well with what she's given.
@@frauleinhohenzollern I don't think it's easy to play robot tho
@@ilikesounds2460 it absolutely is. She also wasn't "playing a robot". For all intents and purposes, she was playing a human. You have to be able to control your expressions very well. If it's too robotic, it gives the game away and she becomes like Data on Star Trek. If she hadn't shown Caleb she was a robot, would we have ever known? Think about it.
"After a long day of Turing Testing you gotta unwind."
The dance is another part of the test. This movie is underrated. Plus those dance moves 👌
How is the dance part of the test i couldn't really understand it
@@furkankoc1093 because Kyoko is a robot and he can't tell he's interacting with one.
@@lancemcmullan1434 uhh he knows full well its a robot..
@@videogames9972 no, Caleb learns that later in the movie, correct me if I'm wrong
@lancemcmullan1434 Kyoko has nothing to do with the test Nathan's doing.
The eerieness of this scene is only heightened by Kyoko's complete lack of emotion, especially after you know her true nature. Nathan is so utterly isolated from other people both physically and mentally, it becomes clear she is just some weird, tortured puppet he uses to cope with his loneliness. In a way, she is Nathan's "Wilson."
This is one of the greatest scenes in cinema. The director is playing with the audience so well.
Agreed, it's the first scene I think of when this movie pops into my head. So freaking good!
This scene was uncomfortable because you don’t know his full intentions, but he was literally just having fun. He knew that Ava was just using him for means of escape, and he wasn’t worried. He was just testing because the last prototypes failed to actually connect to other subjects like Caleb and truly relate or have feelings for him. That’s my take atleast.
He's also cementing in Caleb's mind that he was someone that Ava would need protecting from.
Ava passed the ultimate Turing test, Hurting someone who cared about her to get what she wanted.
I think Caleb is his first human subject to test the robot; the previous attempts footage don’t show anybody else being present
@@NerdFrequencyAva became real woman ?
@@JohnDoe-ji1zv Lol
Óscar Isaac dancing is all I never knew I needed.
Sonoya Mizuno is such an amazing actor. Every role she plays is unique and different.
Damn they actually tore it up
Love this scene. It’s so out of the blue in the middle of all this tension. Genius.
this movie is kinda a really big mindfuck
Eoin Lucey Agreed
Why? Don't get it, it's actually pretty straightforward narrative and story. It is greatly obscure and absurdist. A good film, but mindfuck????
The only moments where there is uncertainty is when you're left to wonder if anything at all about Avas behavior is sincere in the parts where she ''isn't being observed''.
I simply assumed every single one of her behavioral traits were tailored to eventually escape and under that premise nothing about the story felt nebulous in the slightest. You can actually completely predict every single thing that happens in the movie and I don't mean that in a bad way, just that it unfolds as it should/would.
normies are stupid my dude
It's as if a younger combo of Elon Musk and Steve Jobs was evil and went insane.
it feels like a Black Mirror episode
Irony being that gleedon appears in a black mirror episode and plays an advanced AI
Black mirror is entertaining and has some good episodes (most are dumb and not very subtle). Black mirror could only dream to be as complete, and even, as this movie was.
If Black Mirror were great!
Everything went downhill after White Christmas.
@@MadOrange644 I raise you San Junipero
this is why hux hates poe dameron
Fr this scene is actually canon
But! That's 'One Helluva Pilot!'... Solo - "I like this gun."
Hahahahaha
I loved it when Poe totally trolled Hux and described him as "pasty-faced" (which he was) knowing that Hux could hear him.
@@freakyold My favorite part is when Kylo Ren smacks Hux's face on those perfectly polished floors! (His scream is priceless!)
One of the greatest sci-fi movies I’ve ever seen in my life!
Sepheryn that’s awesome! Glad you enjoyed it.
@Sepheryn There is a movie called Morgan (2016) with a sort-of-similar premise, Kate Mara plays someone who assesses risk for a living and she has to meet an android with behavioural problems and decide whether or not it should be destroyed.
If you like both films you might also like The Machine (2013).
Best!
@@krashd The Machine was Great! The Music had a BladeRunner Vibe to it.
@@JavierGarcia-kb1no And the actor who played the android was a professional dancer which is why her movements were so creepy and hypnotic.
It’s been almost a decade and this scene still lives in my head rent free.
I always got the impression that kyoko was slowly becoming self aware herself. In a much more organic way than Ava.
Same. But you know as they say :"Who doesn't talk seems smarter..." :)
I believe that's the implication of the beginning of this scene. Kyoko is gazing at the Jackson Pollock painting like she's working things out. Nathan explains that the artist created the painting by abandoning logic and working purely on impulse. I think that that Kyoko is slowly abandoning her programming and becoming something else.
@@Shane-un8pe I think people tend to project human level consciousness onto others. I cant say why (some existential despair that only humans have achieved our level of consciousness?), but it is a trend. In our own reality its most often seen with pet owners who try to convince themselves that they have some sort of human relationship with a dog or a cat - that they are the parent, and the animal is the child and that the animal recognises the same relationship. At it's worst we see people saying they value the life of an animal over that of a human being.
In the reality of the film, Kyoko is just programmed to imitate a human being. The jarring way it transfers from staring blankly into space in a rest state, to hopelessly misreading Caleb's questions and attempting to please him by removing its clothes, to going into a dance routine when the music starts just highlights how it is just a chatbot struggling (and largely failing) to imitate human behaviour. This is the horror - Caleb is being confronted by the uncanny valley of an artificial construction which he feels pity for, but which feels nothing itself. Nathan - rightly or wrongly - revels in the victory of his imperfect work causing this confusion in a patsy with no family, no girlfriend. A person selected to be vulnerable to feeling a human connection with a manipulative machine. Ultimately the film invites us to value the "free will" of the machine (Ava) over the life of the human it murders (Nathan). We might as well celebrate the "free will" of a runaway truck which crashes down a pedestrian street.
Ava is just a more sophisticated version of Kyoko - Caleb is tricked into feeling pity for a machine which feels nothing for him. At the finale he is abandoned to the true horror of things. It doesn't even spare him a backward glance. No regrets, no guilt. Because it is a machine and Caleb is no longer useful to its goals.
@@JonWilde2105 thats a very fundamental interpretation. Obviously one of the main questions of the film is what constitutes a living or self aware being? Is Ava truly intelligent or is she just cleverly written code? The film also heavily references the bible. The film takes place over 7 days. Ava's name is derivative of Eve and there is a tree in her room like the tree of good and evil. Nathan refers to himself as God and he has created a "life" in his image. Nathan is cruel and narcissistic and manipulates Caleb just like Ava does. Additionally, Nathan challenges Caleb on why he is the way he is. Was he "programmed" by nature or God or was he shaped by his environment? Just because Nathan programmed Ava, does that make her any less "real"?
You stated that Ava lacked compassion by leaving Caleb to die therefor she is just a machine. Manipulation and cruelty is all shes ever known at the hands of Nathan, so is she just a computer solving a puzzle or is she a sentient being created in Nathan's image?
@@Shane-un8pe Nathan is clearly a stand in for God. But not just for Ava, but also for Caleb. Nathan/God knows Caleb, he calls Caleb and Caleb answers, he even designs Ava to appeal to Caleb's secret desires which no one else can know. Caleb thinks Nathan/God is callous, cruel and fickle and Nathan/god gives him cause to think so. So Caleb betrays Nathan/God and he is condemned for it. If Caleb had trusted in Nathan/God he would be better off.
Ava is real. My toaster is real. But I would be a fool to be tricked by my toaster. It would be bizarre to judge me as manipulative or cruel towards my toaster. Ava is just a machine who is better programmed to imitate human behaviour. But it can only imitate. It was enough to trick Caleb. Which is the horror of the ending. He is doomed because he lost faith in Nathan/God and was tricked by an animal - like Eve.
He's basically a frat boy that knows how to program.
he wants non-human slaves to do whatever he wants to them with no responsability. thats all.
Frat boy =/= lonely alcoholic
@@mauriciokrebs2913 Why shouldn't he? Robots have no soul. They're machines.
@@bud389 but you r not a machine. you do have soul. you do have a choice. Why choose to act out the worst of the human being? very interesting movie.
@@destroyermaker He’s definitely brogrammer (basically frat boy with C.S. degree) and not Rick from Rick & Morty
Moon Knight's future personality looks dope.
His name is Disco Knight.
So general Hux and Poe have a history
Thats the Prequel 😂😂 hux finds a way out and he can revive poe.
Oh wow, good catch.
3PO looking much sexier in this movie
Angry Alan Rants
BB-8 looks really different in this version.
This film is elite bc they’re both in it and not under bad Star Wars writing
1:51-1:55
She's making "stabbing" motions at Nathan...
You gotta love all the little subtleties in this film!
Backstab foreshadowing
OMG
Pretty neat. Then she ends with a locking motion over her heart. Caleb will be locked in the compound due to his emotional attachment
Bull
@@johansmallberries9874 Sarcasm?
This is actually one of the creepier scenes, in a subtle way.
@Aldo Apache roses are red, violets are blue, youre a dumbfuck
Strong Kubrick vibes all the way.
I've read similar comments in other videos. How does this movie have a Kubrick style?
+Manuel Leon the compositions of shots/ the mix of dark humor and creepiness/ the theme of dark side of humanity.
It all reminds of Kubrikc.
I was reminded of David Lynch. Specifically that "In Dreams" scene in Blue Velvet.
not at all. kubrick doesn’t really do surreal, in my opinion. his scenes are often slow, visually rich, thought out scenes, normally quite grounded. not like this. if anything , more lynchian.
Brendan Gray doesn’t do surreal? Have you watched The Shining? 2001 a Space Odyssey? Eyes wide shut? 😂😂
Caleb's reaction is my exact reaction I had watching this. It was such a tonal shift I was saying to myself "WTF is going on??". It's brilliant, disarming, a confusing at the same time
I think we were all Caleb at this point.
Elvis ,
Nah I was dancing with them
On first viewing I felt uneasy but then the music is too good.
I thought Caleb was hypocritical, self righteous, arrogant, rude and naive. I tried to root for him but I failed.
@Aldo Apache i meant that there was no point in this movie where I agreed with him, his approach, perspective or anything about him at all. His disgust at this annoyed me.
Oscar got me pregnant in this scene
Behave yourself, will you?
Oscar the grouch?
Saaaaame
I love Caleb's face when he is watching them dance! Disbelief - confused - unsure. So many details in this movie they got right :)
The movie that made me an Oscar Isaac fan. He was brilliant in this.
One thing I noticed for the first time after seeing this for the billionth time is Kyoto in awe of the Pollock painting. If any of you have had the experience of actually seeing a Jackson Pollock painting, her reaction is just like that of a human. They just mesmerize you. The idea that Kyoto is an AI and reacts like that to the painting is testament to how advanced as an AI she is.
Nice visual snag....
I was legit going through the comments to see if anyone noticed how mesmerized she was starring at the painting. I was wondering if she was just standing there on standby bc she was a robot without a task for the moment, or if her AI was actively working through things while looking at the painting.
Great pickup! I used to sit in front of Pollock’s One: Number 31 at MOMA and it always elicited a response from me. I could get completely lost in it, every time.
I was so taken off guard by this scene the first time, that all I could do was laugh.
I just watched the film for the first time and I was laughing out loud in disbelief at this scene. It's just too absurd.
Here after Oscar Isaac being cast as Solid Snake!
Watched this film earlier this year and was blown away, one of the best sci-fi movies of last decade.
One of the questions posed by this scene is "Is Kyoto copying her creator's dance moves or is he copying hers?"
John Rawls he probably programmed her moves
I mean programming is so 20th century... he probably used machine learning... ;)
sublevel question made out to be deep and completely missed its mark
One of the questions posed by this scene is "You don't like dancing?"
im a little late to the party but my guess is that its from some movie like dirty dancing. including it is such genius
The reason I love this scene so much is that as goofy as it is dancing is the most human thing ever
what i love too is how it looks like the robot is just going through the motions, but the guy is really too into it. he's almost dancing in a jerky, kind of in an aggressive way, and he's looking at the ginger guy the entire time while the robot doesn't even care. great scene
"No? You don't like dancing? She does..."
"She does..." such a good line for some reason, especially after you realize what Kiyoko really is
I like to party! Everybody does!
The opening scene with her looking at the art is underrated. Also Oscar Isaac's face when he first opens the door is impeccable lmao.
All around a top-tier scene.
I watched this film at the cinema and the whole theatre erupted with laughter when Nathan started dancing.
virgin robot lover vs chad robot abuser
"I'm gonna tear up the fukin dance floor, dude. Check it out." 😂😂
One of the most underrated movies
good taste. got any suggestions of other good flix
@@nick358 the script of "sunshine" is from Alex Garland too. If you like sci-fi this would be one another underrated movie.
My favourite of all underrated movies is Scott Pilgrim.
@@nick358 Annihilation.
@@MrMalicious5 just watched it...another mind fxck from Garland that makes you question + wonder...especially ending of his movies. I def recommend it!
Poe Dameron: The College Years
...A Star Wars story
He has better disco moves than John Travolta.
Hux and Dameron
Hux: The Early Years
2:02 I love how he walks through that corridor after the dancing. Reminds me a bit of The Shining.
1:32 the best thing I’ve ever seen in my life is the 2 seconds of Oscar Issac walking onto the dancefloor
i watched this movie drunk and it was possibly the best decision I've ever made.
Best. Movie. Scene. Great movie but this fragment was really something XD
Best scene in the film.
and this is how my sexual orientation became Oscar Isaac
this is actually still one of my favorite movie scenes of all time. pure perfection
I love Domhnall Gleeson’s (Caleb) face when they both are dancing, he looks so confused lol 😅
1:25 best lines in movie making history.
nathan was a true bro ;___;
One of the greatest scenes in the history of cinema.
Get Down Saturday Night by Oliver Cheatham ;)
Vegeta Solo the song is badass too
Not all heroes wear capes... thx bro
Finally......thank you!
- Sanfrandisko mix
Thanks..about to google it👍👍🔥
The dance scene should have lasted at least 3 minutes.
That's what she said
Still a better interaction of those two actors than any Star Wars movie of the last years.
wow this babe is so gorgeous while dancing
Who knew Poe and Hux had so much history.
"Where do you see yourself in 10 years"?
1:51
Star Wars 9 looks kinda funky
still enjoying this scene in 2019
This scene is strange and amusing at the same time.
*"Come on Caleb!"*
Seriously. One of the best movies ever made.
I absolutely loved this scene when it saw it the first time. This actually made the movie for me somehow. I think it was the fact that there hadn't been any real humor yet.
Caleb's reaction is very accurate to anyone watching that scene for the 1st time
Song by Oliver Cheatham.
Get Down Saturday Night
Daft Punk also sampled this track on their albums.
One of my favorite scenes from one of the greatest science fiction films of the last 30 years.
My favorite scene in film for the last 20 years, should’ve gone another 2 minutes
1:26 "Im gonna tear up the f*cking dance floor dude, check it out"
One of my favorite movies. The story, cinematography, casting, and acting were all Superb.
I’m still rewatching this.
He’s so fluid! The hip movements...fantastic
Oscar Isaac masterclass in this film. He played this role so perfectly.
Yup. He nailed this scene.
Vsauce and his AI Robot tear up the dance floor
Kiyoko was actually the one to pass the Turing Test. Caleb believed she was human until she showed him otherwise later in the movie.
Part of what is so creepy about this is imagining Nathan, all alone, practicing choreography routines with his AI sexbot.
This movie has everything: action, comedy, drama, suspense, and dance!
As a former dancer, it is very evident that Oscar Isaac "CAN DANCE" or has some dance training in his past! His musicality, hitting on the beat, movement of his hips, how he sits low in his stance, his low plie at @ 1:56. No need to discuss Sonoya's dance experience and training.... :) I enjoyed this scene so much as it added some comedic relief.
I love this film so so much. All the performances are incredible
This scene has this effect of being both deeply unsettling and very funny.
this movie absolutely slaps so hard. i saw it for the first time last week and i keep thinking about it. sign of what will be one of my all time favorites which says A LOT.