I heard Meadow is his guardian Angel. She was there to remove the lamp and she called him into life again and she was just a little too late when he got shot.
Interesting point. Also I think it was season one, Tony was about to get shot but he had to help carry Meadow to her room when she was drunk so the guy hesitated, saving Tony's life.
If Meadow had been better at parallel parking, she would have entered earlier and been sitting next to Tony, either she would have taken the bullet for him or the hit man would have hesitated not expecting to see her there and put off the hit for another time.
@@johnr797 The show is about Tony and his life. The show's sudden stop and cut to blackness is because Tony and his life is over. Tony is dead so there is nothing left for us to see.
Tony's shooting and coma was also useful in exploring what Tony's death would mean to those around him. While Tony is layed out in the hospital, Eugene Pontecorvo is literally layed out in the funeral parlor. We see how Carmella, Anthony and Meadow would behave in his absence if Tony died. How his crew, who were loyal only out of fear, would eventually plot to succeed him (Silvio/Vito) and cut their financial obligations to Tony's family (Vito and Paulie). It sets up the abrupt Series Finale cut to black ending/killing perfectly... because we all know what happens next. In many ways we've seen it.
Also, Eugene's wife is maybe the only person that didn't know him well or even barely at all that literally said someone should kill him. She told Eugene to kill him and of course just about everyone had a reason to kill him but she was the only one that barely knew him. The end could have also been a dream sequence.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
This went from introspective to creepy real quick once the references to hell, his creepy mother's shadow, the house and Chris' warning to Tony happened. Felt like an eerie horror story about satan stealing his soul...was just anticipating the possession. Awesome analysis as always
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Seemed like everyone the loved the mob story hated the dream sequences in the Sopranos. I loved the dream sequences. This show took so many chances and almost tried to alienate its audience. But people still loved it.
Low iq superficial wanna be tough guys and bored housewives maybe. True fans of cinema understood that this was a character analysis, the backdrop was just another cast member
@@mickyzzzeee I've seen comments on other videos calling the family scenes boring. I'd like to think someone who would say that must be a child, but I'm not so sure.
I just hate dream sequences generally. There are better ways to explore character. Are anyone's dreams really such a clear indication of their feelings? Mine often feature extremely random people I barely know.
I've seen a lot of people say they skip the dream scenes and Melfi scenes and I'm like what!? I love every scene in the show. Every time you watch, you can pick up on something you never thought of. The dream scenes are so good, because it's like how we all really dream. I always have weird dreams like that. Like someones coming for me and I shoot at them and my gun won't work or the bullets keep skimming the top of their head. All of the scenes are amazing.
"Who??" "Quasimodo!" "Nostradamus!! Quasimodo is the hunchback of Notre Dame" "Yeah, whatever, Notre damus." "NOSTRADAMUS and NOTRE DAME. Two different things completely." I love that scene lol.
You got yer quarter back and yer hunchback of Notredame, you never thought about that.? Had Bobby been playing with Christopher's chemistry set that day I wonder?
OMG. I think some of the funniest dialogue ever on TV was not from any sitcom, but from The Sopranos. 'Peeps is his nickname!!' 'Fucking guy is dyslexic' 'What does that have to do with anything??" Ha ha ha ha!!!
I am not Kevin Finnerty but I guess I must look like him. I always thought that The Sopranos did the best job at portraying dreams; the eerie, mystery of dreams and how somethings seem to make no sense and like how one person can be another person or when people appear out of nowhere for a flash and their gone, like when Tony is riding in the back of the car and his side passenger shifts from one person to Svetlana suddenly, and in the "unprepared dream" when he's trying to grab the rounds that fall on the ground, they turn into shit. The randomness and senselessness of dreams is captured very well.
@Rooster Sopranos could be at risk. When enough people are gushing over a show, and there's endless RUclips videos praising its genius, people will start calling it overrated. That's what happened with BB
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
The idea that his mom is so evil that she awaits him in hell is horrifying, livia is the only true antagonist in the sopranos from start to finish you could essentially come to somewhat of an understanding with all of tonys enemies throughout the show but his mom's actions towards him even when he tried taking care of her she was purely satanic towards him, the only time she smiled at him was when she was laughing at him when he finally confronted her for her sick deeds in the hospital as she was carted off also once again horrifying.
"they say there is no two people on earth the same but do they know it for sure. because they need to get everybody together in one place. all the people live and have lived" - chris at livias wake
@@OrdinaryThings Hey, Ordinary fella, how about a Pure Kino shout out? And don't forget to say Borko sent you, or next time, there won't be a next time...
It scares the shit out of you… people assume hell is a lake of fire…. What if it’s a house full of people you can’t stand that you can never leave? Gives me the creeps!
One of the more deeply unsettling episodes in the show. By the end, with the final music choice, David Chase almost beggingly made you sympathize with Tony to once again take us on a ride in season 6 in order to try to understand the greatest sociopath to have ever existed on TV.
@@nathanduncan672 sociopaths don't feel guilt or remorse for their actions. Tony did. He was not a sociopath, he was an asshole. A sociopath wouldn't reflect on the things Tony did. They have no empathy or sympathy. Tony had both. He was a spoiled brat and AJ was exactly who Tony would have been without the criminal lifestyle, which is why he was so worried about "saving this kid".
@@AQT187 Tony lacked empathy, & what little hed had died throughout the show. I never felt Tony really had real remorse outside of a constant identity crisis, how he perceives himself. It's more of a ego's remorse than true empathy with genuine longevity. Not all sociopaths are emotionless meat machines, thats jus A&E shit to make them seem more spooky
@@nathanduncan672 pie-o-my and Tracy were parts of his empathy turned into anger. Killing his cousin and even a bit of Matthew Bevalaqua's murder stuck with him. He battled with that because he's the boss and he isn't supposed to give a shit.
I took the briefcase as symbolizing the business of life. Buscemi was like the Grim Reaper.. trying to get Tony to let go and go inside. But Tony resists giving up the briefcase (giving up his life). Hearing his kids voices makes him want to hold onto it even more. And not letting it go is what causes him to wake up and regain consciousness.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Yes I had the same interpretation as Jocko. In an earlier scene he says something like "my whole life is in there" referring to his lost briefcase. The way Buscemi is trying to make him let go of the briefcase before he can pass on seems very straightforward.
What's interesting is that he's holding on to it even though IT ISN'T HIS BRIEFCASE. Which could mean that the Tony who goes from selling patio furniture to precision optics is the real Tony and the mob life he's so discontented in is not his real life, but something he happened into.
In ancient mythology, the spirits of the dead had to pay the ferryman for passage to the Afterlife. In this dream, Tony B plays the ferryman and asks the briefcase as payment/requirement to let Tony S go to the other side.
The bit about Livia trying to drag Tony to hell reminded me of that scene with Ralph where he quotes Gladiator. "In this world or the next, I will have my revenge" Also Paulie screaming in his sleep "Ya draggin me to hell, ya draggin me to hell!"
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
I really like how Meadow says “White, too,” when AJ says “I thought black meant death!” because she isn’t saying black doesn’t mean death. She’s saying that both symbolize death. So, the cut to black ties to AJ’s line about thinking black symbolizes death. This show is so brilliant, multi-faceted. Best of all time, imo.
Chrissy: "sleep is the only thing i still enjoy" How many ppl have felt that way in life? grade A content btw, I'm also into psychology, fascinating stuff for sure.
"sleep, those little slices of death, how i loathe them" Edgar Allen Poe. Another person who suffered with depression along with addiction to alcohol and I'm sure the odd dabble in opium. I however don't agree with EAP on this one and like Christopher enjoy sleeping although i always have done, sleeping, day dreaming.
Probably so. I think it also has to do with him already feeling death approaching even though, as he tells the doctor, he's only 48(?). Also has something to do with his feeling like parts of him have died or are dying, and the overall sense in the dream that he doesn't really know who he is.
@@aleisterbroley900 plus his subconcious is giving him strong signals about the 'better treatments', the doctor in his dream says 'see your doctor when you get back', which is basically acknowledging the fact that Melfi is the only way out of this misery. Since season 5 Tony has been slipping and losing control, and only if he would really confront his true problems (his father, which Melfi often tried to make him understand is the reason for this) he can be a better person and survive his mental state
The scene with Steve Buscemi where he wants Tony to leave his briefcase behind reminds me of the classic Twilight Zone episode the Hunt. Where the old man is almost lured into hell but they want him to leave his dog behind which he doesn't do. Also the Twilight Zone episode A Stop at Willoughby has similarities to his dream.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Someone tell Michael Imperioli and Steve Schirripa we need Kino on Talking Sopranos big time ..like yesterday...this is the very best break down of the Sopranos ever, ever 💯💯💯💯 Dude analysed the finale episode better than anyone ever.
I personally believe that it means when he faces the reality of the afterlife, he’s not prepared to face all that he has done. Some believe that when they die, before they are accepted into the “heaven of their religion” they must face the people and actions of their past. When he’s shot, he is invited to go to a party uptown, he meets his cousin, the only man who would have understood why Tony killed him. The only one to forgive him. He isn’t ready to ask for forgiveness from all those he’s killed, betrayed, wronged and hurt. Hence his attitude in season 6, he’s disconnected from his mafia life more than any other season. He’s bored, but happy, disconnected but yet more involved than ever. Wants so bad to ignore the problems between his family and The New York family’s. He understand that his life truly is an endless cycle of pain and regret until inevitable death. So he tries hard to deal with it all and change himself. But, due to his sociopathy, he kept returning to his life. But this time he becomes worse, understanding that he’s damned already.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
It's an instance of foreshadowing that if he had continued going down Kevin Finnerty's path, he would end up dead. When he reverted back to his old ways and ignored his second chance at a better life, he sealed his fate at the diner.
And yet there are moments when he almost turns it around. Like when he won't go to bed with the real estate woman, reminded of his love for Carmela by the purple shirt.
I love how the whole coma dream is open to interpretation as dreams in real life is but the best thing is how it’s never explained how or who put up the Ojibwe phase
That shadow woman freaks me the hell out. Especially when they show her in the other dream you mentioned. Man, I literally just rewatched the Sopranos for the 20th time, and you've made me want to watch it again. Lol. Great video!
I liked how someone compared the white light he sees in the Finerty near death experience, to the dim light in Vegas after he kills Chris. That dim light is symbolic of his soul/outlook because he decides to completely give into his hedonistic side, when this near death experience was a warning that he was on the wrong path
Nice interpretation. I'd even say the metaphor goes deeper. Death for Tony means the total absence of light in his life, it's a spiritual death if you will. Whatever conscience and morality he might have before this, is now gone. He's been at last totally corrupted by the criminal life of his family. That's why his own uncle, who used to be a father figure to him, is the one who ends the little light in Tony's life. The family (nor the mafia nor his real family) doesn't mean anything to him anymore. He just wants to enjoy his miserable life, without any regard for anything or anyone, that's why he has to let his briefcase, which represents the guilt and the weight of the life he never asked for and was thrust upon him. At the end of the season, he doesn't even remember the realization he had at the end of the first one. He's dead on the inside. Cut to black.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
10:22 This hits so fucking hard. I try and tray and to be better morally and spiritually but the ease of sin always gets the better of me. But I think the point is we can never give up. If we gain an inch to becoming a better person then that is one inch closer to salvation then we were at before.
I always thought this was the beginning of the "up front" telling instead of "eluded to" telling of how the mob life is destroying Tony. Season 1 Tony is a happier, more caring, upbeat, funny guy that gets eroded overtime as mob life eats away at him. After he gets out of the coma it's like a soft reset where Tony wants to go back to being that old Tony but again mob life erodes away his happiness and soul. Until by the end of the series Tony is pretty unlikable. He's become cold, cruel, distant, depressive, uncaring, and just seems to be going through the motions of mob life until his demise.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
It's definitely not the house from the coma. The coma house is a big colonial -hotel- home in NJ. The picture on the wall is a small farmhouse with a front porch and shed on the left
Ultimately, the Sopranos is us watching Tony turn his back on changing his ways. Over and over again he ignores the Piano over his head, and this story-line is the final straw. I Think what makes most of this really impressive is that you can just gleam it from watching the episodes a few times and keeping up with the THEMES that run through Tony's story. It's subtle in a way that most shows cannot be, but also all spelled out and shown to you. I agree with about 95% of what you're presenting, and I think Finite (or however it's spelled) is the bad guy. The infinite vs the finite. I did not catch the portrait of the house and 3 o'clock, though I've always believed Tony died. Good stuff.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
And as awful as this might sound, idk which exact episode bur I think late in the series, I crave fresh caught pescaditos everytime I hear/see Tony order that grouper sandwich lol
Holy crap, the connection between the house and the picture at Holsteins is something I would never catch without it being pointed out! I was already in the camp of believing he was killed but now I’m actually sure. Though I think the point is that it might not matter because the conversation with his lawyer seems to imply that there’s a very solid case against Tony Soprano at this point. And the only surviving «friend» is Paulie, who when Tony Soprano seemed to be dying made it clear that he did not want to provide for Tony’s family. Things are over for Tony at the end of the series no matter what happens
I watched the final episode "live" and I thought Tony had made it out alive. But I now agree, everything points to his death, and I'm just glad we didn't see it. I'm currently re-watching with my wife, who did not see the series when it aired, and we're well into Season 6, and the Godfather restaurant scene, with Michael killing Sollozzo and the police captain, is described by AJ as his father's favorite movie scene. With Members Only paralleling Michael's actions as he walks to the bathroom, Tony dies doing what he loved in multiple ways.
i've always known about the 3'oclock toilet angle and the shooter, but never noticed the painting on the wall being the house that has indeed blown me away
The show itself was a masterpiece but these parts combined w his Trip in the desert and other dream sequences is why its the best show ever created. I will say the wire comes close in its character development of an entire city but there were magic moments that made sopranos the greatest show ever
I’m with you. I saw breaking bad and thought it was as good as it gets… then I watched the sopranos a couple times. It simply does not get better than the sopranos.
The final scene when livia was waiting for him inside and tony b was telling tony that it was time to go home is one of the best tv scenes i’ve ever witnessed, phenomenal show
What is the significance of Kevin Finnerty being from Kingman, Arizona? Was the town picked at random? I know a lot of ex-mobsters went into the witness protection program in Arizona, such as Sammy the Bull.
Wow never seen this theory. Kevin finnerty is Tony’s witness protection identity. I love the theory that our dreams are who we really are and “reality “ is who we think and tell ourselves we are, almost like reality itself is a defense mechanism we fabricate to shield us from the painful truth. Crazy to think of
I think you're spot on with Charmaine, I thought that same thing. Tony and Charmaine dated in high school and would have probably stayed together had it not been for Tony's involvement in organized crime. In that sense Carmella represent his marriage to the mob while Charmaine is the opposite of that, as she states herself in one of the early episodes.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
One thing that really caught my attention was when Tony was reluctant to give up his suitcase, saying "his life was in there", possibly meaning handing it over would've meant death, symbolically giving away his life
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
These Sopranologs will be invaluable watching for Sopranos newbies when The Many Saints of Newark is finally out. Good one, Kino! Way to put that degree to work.
This video wasn't recommended to me, I searched for it because I was interested in a deeper analysis after watching the show. If I had come looking just 4 months ago I don't think I'd have found anything like this on the site so thank you.
Really interesting video. Just when you thought this show couldn’t get any deeper! The depth of detail and subtle clues make rewatching so easy, never have I watched a show over and over as much as The Sopranos. I always thought it was Charmaine’s voice too.
I was once in the hospital because I was really badly injured and almost got burnt alive as a kid and in the hospital I was having very vivid realistic dreams that I was me but in a different life. I grew up and then had a wife in the dream. It was a very extra ordinary feeling. I remember her sitting on a table and asking if I was hungry? If I want anything to eat? Makes me cry when I think about this because it just felt so fucking real. Like if I was really awake but inside that dream.
I also had a different life dream vruh it was fucked up. I wrote it it all down. The dream ended with my receiving letters of the family of my dream wife, whom hurt me and expelled me from their home for my relationship with her, saying they were sorry but I just kinda like "eh its ok whatever" and moved to see rhe next letters. Gives me hope for a good omen of having no trouble with forgiveness in my life, the only real thing that matters.
I can't believe after years of watching Sopranos clips on RUclips I am just now stumbling into this this amazing insight. By far the best interpretation I've seen to date.
lol just watched that ep and my first thought was Adrianna. Charmaine makes a lot more sense tho lol. I do think Adrianna and tony's relationship is really interesting tho and wish the show explored it more. only on episode 4 of season 6 so maybe they do later.
This show offered what I think are probably the best dream sequences I've ever seen, because they are structured so much like dreams I have had (and maybe everyone else). Different identity, different loved ones (the voice on the phone isn't Carmela's voice), people, locations, and circumstances all change without reason. "Real" people appearing in a dream might have a totally different persona. Coherent, rational statements are blended with total nonsense/non-sequiturs. Some references are easy to grasp, others have little or no reason at all. Pretty interesting stuff.
Great content! I always interpreted in the coma dream that when Tony sees Tony B and about to go into that house he’s being coerced into walking into Hell.
Many argue that he didn’t actually get worse and that many of the seemingly evil deeds were a form of repentance. Trying to fix what he feels he created in people like Christopher and Ralphie. Nevertheless, I don’t think it was just regular life “picking at it”. It was his depression and his inevitable transformation into the person he hated the most: his mother.
I noticed when he's on the phone with his wife the 1st time he says "my whole life was in that briefcase" which is why he can't take it into the house later cause he would be accepting death if he gives it up.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
In the diner in the final scene, Tony is wearing the same shirt he was wearing when he was shot by Junior. The shirt Tony wears when he *enters* the diner is a different shirt entirely than the one he's wearing when he's sitting down. This seems to indicate that the scene in the diner itself is not actually happening - it's either hell or a dream since Tony manages to change shirts between walking in and sitting down and he's somehow wearing the same shirt that got a bullet put through it. There's also a shot in the The Test Dream where Tony walks into his old coach's office. It looks almost identical to the shot where Tony walks into the diner in the finale - Tony has the same facial expression in both shots, the camera is in a similar position, and in both shots he's wearing a gray shirt with a black jacket over it. It's very possible that the last scene is not even happening and is just a dream. It shares a lot in common with other dreams Tony has had throughout the series, including unexplained wardrobe changes, figures appearing who represent important elements of his life, and it even contains a picture of the house he's occasionally dreamed about.
One of my favorite details is that in an earlier dream, he's in his house, but the rooms are drastically altered, I have dreams myself all the fucking time where I'll be in my house, or a very familiar building, but it's very different, and out of order, loved that shit
@@anthonykelly7248 im guessing if tony went civilian he wouldn't have hung out with all the ppl with north jersey accents and just ended up sound the way he did? IDK but it is a total contrast to how tony could have been
@@mariyatakeuchi9009 The New Jersey accent Gandolfini used as Tony Soprano for the entire series was a fake accent. In this episode, he actually spoke in his regular every day accent. This is the one episode that you hear James Gandolfini talk how he actually talks.
@chiefosceola14 Doesn't he talk the way he does in real life in the pilot and first episodes? Unless he just used his real voice but not real accent there.
Damn! Talk about a superb 10 minute analogy & great practical criticism. Now I have to listen out for Charmaine’s voice on the phone, in that scene, to see if I agree with you. Great work
David Chase has said this was not a dream like the others. I think Tony was getting a lesson from God-a parable in the form of the monks who accused him of being a bad man. The monks were the instructing him that he did bad things-"lose your arrogance"; the doctor in the dream examining his x-rays says he has a darkness. He emerges from the coma due to love for Meadow, but Tony quips that life is boring and ends up choosing evil. He kills Chrissy, and wins in Vegas with devil heads appearing on the slot machine and Tony rolls around the casino floor yelling he can't lose. He takes peyote and says "I GET IT" but he doesn't--it's his arrogance again - having chosen the path to Satan and sealing his doom.
He sold his soul when he killed his own son. I cant explain why I felt such disgust and literal aversion to even watching the screen anymore after that happened, but that I knew he had made a deal with the evil one.
Amazing how deep The Sopranos actually was. Things like Christopher saying '3:00' to Tony and the picture of the house on the diner wall at Tony's 3:00. All of these things you completely miss.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino..
Also, Finnerty is an Irish surname. That plus the information we get about Kevin selling faulty equipment implies that Kevin Finnerty could be a member of the Irish Mob. Family and Italian heritage are obviously major themes in the show. These characters are proud and protective of their heritage and families. There's some interesting messaging with that info and tons of ways to interpret it. I'd probably have to spend more time thinking about this to give a thorough and proper interpretation, but I'll leave some basic thoughts, and hopefully, others can run with it and give a better interpretation. Tony's previous dreams about being an immigrant himself (rather than being a second-generation immigrant), the Italian woman he hallucinated, his trip to Italy, encouraging Carmela to go to Italy instead of France, etc. hint at an internal identity crisis about not having a sense of home. His panic attacks about the ducks in the pilot establish that he has anxiety about his own nuclear family. We know his home life as a child was also not good, to say the least. On top of that, he also seems to be struggling with his identity as an Italian American. Oversimplifying the nuanced discussion of ethnicity and second-wave immigration, we know that Italian Americans have been discriminated against and we know that these characters still feel that discrimination in the 1990s/2000s (Columbus episode comes to mind, though there are several other examples of this in the show). The Italian mafia was established, in part, as a reaction to this discrimination and Italian immigrants not being able to get legal work, and I think that adds to this sense that Tony feels like he had no real choice in ending up in the mob. He feels stuck and like the odds were stacked against him, and a lot of that has to do with the family he was born into. Not just hereditary depression and an unstable household, but also a larger system of discrimination. This is also amplified by Tony's own racism throughout the series. Tony mentions that he feels like he's come into power as a boss at the same time that the mob seems to be ending, but not just the mob is on the decline. It is clear that there's a sense of Italian American culture is disappearing. Changing neighborhoods and the shrinking of Little Italy is a clear and present theme throughout the show. There's clearly a sense here that Tony feels like he and his family has never really belonged here, which establishes no real sense of home. Again, this interpretation is a little rushed and messy, I'd love the think more about this, but figured I'd share in the meantime.
I hear Charmains voice too. Also I think Kevin Finnite robs Buddhist monks (*Which I dont think tony would know much about Buddhism outside of what Janice might of told him before he rolled his eyes and tried to ignore her.) because they represent a life free from the control of desire. Which Real Tonys life is filled with that. Dream Tony seems way more happy even while he's confronting a situation that would drive real Tony into lashing out at every roadblock.
This is so out of topic but I need to say this. The episode where Paulie is so fucking paranoid about his biopsy and he went to bada bing and saw mother mary as a hooker shook me. fucking A that was so out of the blue that scene
Something interestingting I just saw. If you take the first letter of In At The Oaks, you get the Italian word IATO, which means waiting ( and moritorium as a synonym) This has to be more than a coincidence ,as it basically translate to Purgatory. Which Pauly does bring up
Has David Chase ever done an interview about his beliefs in religion/supernatural? I'd love to hear about considering the elements present in the Sopranos (most notable Mikey's ghost haunting Paulie)
I remember awhile back reading that David chase wrote the Sopranos in a world where catholicism is the objective reality, the most notable piece of evidence is paulie seeing the Virgin Mary, you can see her reflection in a mirror, which leads to the conclusion that it wasn't just a hallucination on paulie's part.
In Jewish belief when you have a dream of a family member telling you to come home it means your going to die. Coming home going to be with your family in your afterlife . That’s why he hesitated and said no.
My father was in a coma and when he came to and regained another coherence to talk he described having packed his bags and was going somewhere with others…and it was too horrific for him to say or be able to continue.
Just when he thought he was out Meadow pulled him back in
Just when he thought he was dead, Meadow pulled him back Innnn!
Glad I’m not the only one that immediately thought “it was probably Meadow”
Before they even showed her face I was like “probably Meadow”
Her voice pulled him from death but in the last ever episode she wasn't there in time to save him!
@@danielx5740 that’s the first cool tidbit I’ve heard in years that hasn’t already been pointed out a billion times over 😂
Get this man a pin
I heard Meadow is his guardian Angel. She was there to remove the lamp and she called him into life again and she was just a little too late when he got shot.
Interesting point. Also I think it was season one, Tony was about to get shot but he had to help carry Meadow to her room when she was drunk so the guy hesitated, saving Tony's life.
@@chezza9116 oh yes. True I forgot about that.
If Meadow had been better at parallel parking, she would have entered earlier and been sitting next to Tony, either she would have taken the bullet for him or the hit man would have hesitated not expecting to see her there and put off the hit for another time.
@@vanessa.jasmine I mean, to be fair it's possible she *did* save him
@@johnr797
The show is about Tony and his life. The show's sudden stop and cut to blackness is because Tony and his life is over. Tony is dead so there is nothing left for us to see.
Tony's shooting and coma was also useful in exploring what Tony's death would mean to those around him. While Tony is layed out in the hospital, Eugene Pontecorvo is literally layed out in the funeral parlor. We see how Carmella, Anthony and Meadow would behave in his absence if Tony died. How his crew, who were loyal only out of fear, would eventually plot to succeed him (Silvio/Vito) and cut their financial obligations to Tony's family (Vito and Paulie). It sets up the abrupt Series Finale cut to black ending/killing perfectly... because we all know what happens next. In many ways we've seen it.
Also, Eugene's wife is maybe the only person that didn't know him well or even barely at all that literally said someone should kill him. She told Eugene to kill him and of course just about everyone had a reason to kill him but she was the only one that barely knew him. The end could have also been a dream sequence.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
That is a well made point
@@remidelmes4839 Actual schizophrenia
@@remidelmes4839 dude, please, for the love of God, take your motherfucking meds
This went from introspective to creepy real quick once the references to hell, his creepy mother's shadow, the house and Chris' warning to Tony happened. Felt like an eerie horror story about satan stealing his soul...was just anticipating the possession. Awesome analysis as always
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
@@remidelmes4839 Dude, if you aren't joking, get some help.
@@hanspennyloaf335 I know, what the fuck is this guy smoking.
@@hanspennyloaf335 I did think Richie Aprile was Al pachino in s2
When he sees a light directly shining in his eye as a lighthouse on the horizon you get the an impression of just how fuckin far gone he is
Glad you caught that Kino, very observant. The sacred and the propane.
The precipice of a crossroads.
an “enormous” crossroads 😂
Lmao and remember...a pint of blood 🩸 costs more than a gallon of gold 😂 😂 😂 😂
I know you’re time is less then limited
Profane isn't even a big word, either.
Seemed like everyone the loved the mob story hated the dream sequences in the Sopranos. I loved the dream sequences. This show took so many chances and almost tried to alienate its audience. But people still loved it.
The show was pure gangster but at heart was all character studies.
Low iq superficial wanna be tough guys and bored housewives maybe. True fans of cinema understood that this was a character analysis, the backdrop was just another cast member
@@mickyzzzeee I've seen comments on other videos calling the family scenes boring. I'd like to think someone who would say that must be a child, but I'm not so sure.
I just hate dream sequences generally. There are better ways to explore character. Are anyone's dreams really such a clear indication of their feelings? Mine often feature extremely random people I barely know.
I've seen a lot of people say they skip the dream scenes and Melfi scenes and I'm like what!? I love every scene in the show. Every time you watch, you can pick up on something you never thought of. The dream scenes are so good, because it's like how we all really dream. I always have weird dreams like that. Like someones coming for me and I shoot at them and my gun won't work or the bullets keep skimming the top of their head. All of the scenes are amazing.
“You know, Quasimodo predicted all this.”
"Who??"
"Quasimodo!"
"Nostradamus!! Quasimodo is the hunchback of Notre Dame"
"Yeah, whatever, Notre damus."
"NOSTRADAMUS and NOTRE DAME. Two different things completely."
I love that scene lol.
You got yer quarter back and yer hunchback of Notredame, you never thought about that.?
Had Bobby been playing with Christopher's chemistry set that day I wonder?
The sacred and the propane.
@@sweeneytodd011 “I happen to know that you were high at my mother in laws wake”
“My muddah‘s wake!”
OMG. I think some of the funniest dialogue ever on TV was not from any sitcom, but from The Sopranos. 'Peeps is his nickname!!' 'Fucking guy is dyslexic' 'What does that have to do with anything??" Ha ha ha ha!!!
I am not Kevin Finnerty but I guess I must look like him.
I always thought that The Sopranos did the best job at portraying dreams; the eerie, mystery of dreams and how somethings seem to make no sense and like how one person can be another person or when people appear out of nowhere for a flash and their gone, like when Tony is riding in the back of the car and his side passenger shifts from one person to Svetlana suddenly, and in the "unprepared dream" when he's trying to grab the rounds that fall on the ground, they turn into shit. The randomness and senselessness of dreams is captured very well.
Yep, most dreams in movies and TV are too orderly. This has the vibe PERFECT
Dreams are not senseless.
@@russellj.collerjr.5547 same lmao what shit looks like that 😂
@@russellj.collerjr.5547 right?? But I guess shit makes more sense
Chase modeled his dreams on Bunuel. 60s-70s French language director. Especially ‘Discrete Charm Of The Bourgeoisie’
Honestly 200 years from now David Chase will be seen as a genius and the sopranos as best series ever made. Just finished my 4th run.
I agree. I think Sopranos and Chase will be studied for many many years.
People are already saying that, so in 5 years, people will start calling it overrated
@@irockdirtyshoes Realism wise, sure. But the story of the sopranos is much better
@Rooster Sopranos could be at risk. When enough people are gushing over a show, and there's endless RUclips videos praising its genius, people will start calling it overrated. That's what happened with BB
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
The idea that his mom is so evil that she awaits him in hell is horrifying, livia is the only true antagonist in the sopranos from start to finish you could essentially come to somewhat of an understanding with all of tonys enemies throughout the show but his mom's actions towards him even when he tried taking care of her she was purely satanic towards him, the only time she smiled at him was when she was laughing at him when he finally confronted her for her sick deeds in the hospital as she was carted off also once again horrifying.
"they say there is no two people on earth the same but do they know it for sure. because they need to get everybody together in one place. all the people live and have lived" - chris at livias wake
"when i came in to open up one morning there you were with your head half in the toilet. your hair was in the toilet water. disgusting" - silvio
This is really well-observed. love your Sopranos essays dude! The bit with the brief case - amazing
Thanks a ton!
Wtf bruh I was just binging your vids and now your here? Spooky
@@kaga_me lol. no way. is that 'guh' guy in your pic?
@@OrdinaryThings guh huh, it sure is
@@OrdinaryThings Hey, Ordinary fella, how about a Pure Kino shout out? And don't forget to say Borko sent you, or next time, there won't be a next time...
I still get goosebumps when we see the shape that is assumed to be his mother
Yep his ma was the women in the house nd he knew she was nt in good place so he left bk to daughter calling him
yeah its a very odd, discomforting presence
That what make me think it’s hell. She would not be in his heaven,
Yep me too
It scares the shit out of you… people assume hell is a lake of fire…. What if it’s a house full of people you can’t stand that you can never leave? Gives me the creeps!
One of the more deeply unsettling episodes in the show. By the end, with the final music choice, David Chase almost beggingly made you sympathize with Tony to once again take us on a ride in season 6 in order to try to understand the greatest sociopath to have ever existed on TV.
That's the beauty of this show. Tony wasn't a sociopath, he was legitimately depressed and battled with having to be the boss 24/7.
@@AQT187Seriously?... Sociopaths can be depressed & stressed jus like anyone else
@@nathanduncan672 sociopaths don't feel guilt or remorse for their actions. Tony did. He was not a sociopath, he was an asshole. A sociopath wouldn't reflect on the things Tony did. They have no empathy or sympathy. Tony had both. He was a spoiled brat and AJ was exactly who Tony would have been without the criminal lifestyle, which is why he was so worried about "saving this kid".
@@AQT187 Tony lacked empathy, & what little hed had died throughout the show. I never felt Tony really had real remorse outside of a constant identity crisis, how he perceives himself. It's more of a ego's remorse than true empathy with genuine longevity. Not all sociopaths are emotionless meat machines, thats jus A&E shit to make them seem more spooky
@@nathanduncan672 pie-o-my and Tracy were parts of his empathy turned into anger. Killing his cousin and even a bit of Matthew Bevalaqua's murder stuck with him. He battled with that because he's the boss and he isn't supposed to give a shit.
I took the briefcase as symbolizing the business of life. Buscemi was like the Grim Reaper.. trying to get Tony to let go and go inside. But Tony resists giving up the briefcase (giving up his life). Hearing his kids voices makes him want to hold onto it even more. And not letting it go is what causes him to wake up and regain consciousness.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
@@remidelmes4839 😂
Yes I had the same interpretation as Jocko. In an earlier scene he says something like "my whole life is in there" referring to his lost briefcase. The way Buscemi is trying to make him let go of the briefcase before he can pass on seems very straightforward.
What's interesting is that he's holding on to it even though IT ISN'T HIS BRIEFCASE. Which could mean that the Tony who goes from selling patio furniture to precision optics is the real Tony and the mob life he's so discontented in is not his real life, but something he happened into.
In ancient mythology, the spirits of the dead had to pay the ferryman for passage to the Afterlife. In this dream, Tony B plays the ferryman and asks the briefcase as payment/requirement to let Tony S go to the other side.
The bit about Livia trying to drag Tony to hell reminded me of that scene with Ralph where he quotes Gladiator. "In this world or the next, I will have my revenge"
Also Paulie screaming in his sleep "Ya draggin me to hell, ya draggin me to hell!"
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
I really like how Meadow says “White, too,” when AJ says “I thought black meant death!” because she isn’t saying black doesn’t mean death. She’s saying that both symbolize death. So, the cut to black ties to AJ’s line about thinking black symbolizes death. This show is so brilliant, multi-faceted. Best of all time, imo.
Chrissy: "sleep is the only thing i still enjoy"
How many ppl have felt that way in life?
grade A content btw, I'm also into psychology, fascinating stuff for sure.
Well it IS one of the only pure things that are enjoyable.
Nothing comes close to existing within another world, even if for a few hours.
Absolutely. I said that to myself only a few weeks ago.
Insomnia is hell
"sleep, those little slices of death, how i loathe them"
Edgar Allen Poe.
Another person who suffered with depression along with addiction to alcohol and I'm sure the odd dabble in opium.
I however don't agree with EAP on this one and like Christopher enjoy sleeping although i always have done, sleeping, day dreaming.
@@jonathangriffiths2499 I don’t fall to sleep until between 6-7am I’m 37 and been like this since age 16 it’s like mental torture
The Alzheimer's reminds him of the guy who sent him into the coma (Junior)
I thought the same thing.
That’s a good point I never noticed 😅
Probably so. I think it also has to do with him already feeling death approaching even though, as he tells the doctor, he's only 48(?). Also has something to do with his feeling like parts of him have died or are dying, and the overall sense in the dream that he doesn't really know who he is.
OH! RIMSHOT!
@@aleisterbroley900 plus his subconcious is giving him strong signals about the 'better treatments', the doctor in his dream says 'see your doctor when you get back', which is basically acknowledging the fact that Melfi is the only way out of this misery. Since season 5 Tony has been slipping and losing control, and only if he would really confront his true problems (his father, which Melfi often tried to make him understand is the reason for this) he can be a better person and survive his mental state
The scene with Steve Buscemi where he wants Tony to leave his briefcase behind reminds me of the classic Twilight Zone episode the Hunt. Where the old man is almost lured into hell but they want him to leave his dog behind which he doesn't do. Also the Twilight Zone episode A Stop at Willoughby has similarities to his dream.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
@@remidelmes4839 bruh
@@remidelmes4839 wow... Someone call Dr. Melfi for this guy
Two of my favorite episodes of a show every bit as influential as The Sopranos.
“Enough wit da fucking preambles”. Beautiful.
Someone tell Michael Imperioli and Steve Schirripa we need Kino on Talking Sopranos big time ..like yesterday...this is the very best break down of the Sopranos ever, ever 💯💯💯💯 Dude analysed the finale episode better than anyone ever.
I can't wait for Steve to ask me if I auditioned for the part lmao
@@PureKino did you read for David, kino?
I personally believe that it means when he faces the reality of the afterlife, he’s not prepared to face all that he has done. Some believe that when they die, before they are accepted into the “heaven of their religion” they must face the people and actions of their past. When he’s shot, he is invited to go to a party uptown, he meets his cousin, the only man who would have understood why Tony killed him. The only one to forgive him. He isn’t ready to ask for forgiveness from all those he’s killed, betrayed, wronged and hurt. Hence his attitude in season 6, he’s disconnected from his mafia life more than any other season. He’s bored, but happy, disconnected but yet more involved than ever. Wants so bad to ignore the problems between his family and The New York family’s. He understand that his life truly is an endless cycle of pain and regret until inevitable death. So he tries hard to deal with it all and change himself. But, due to his sociopathy, he kept returning to his life. But this time he becomes worse, understanding that he’s damned already.
Yep
I really felt this shit 😔
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Any episode that focused on Tony's dreams were just phenomenal.
It's an instance of foreshadowing that if he had continued going down Kevin Finnerty's path, he would end up dead. When he reverted back to his old ways and ignored his second chance at a better life, he sealed his fate at the diner.
And yet there are moments when he almost turns it around. Like when he won't go to bed with the real estate woman, reminded of his love for Carmela by the purple shirt.
Borko is gonna needs pure kinos scratch if he's gonna buy that new boat
@@acourdour5576 Who does he think he is, sir Walter Raleigh??
Borko's a bit of a poseur if u ask me
I love how the whole coma dream is open to interpretation as dreams in real life is but the best thing is how it’s never explained how or who put up the Ojibwe phase
That shadow woman freaks me the hell out. Especially when they show her in the other dream you mentioned. Man, I literally just rewatched the Sopranos for the 20th time, and you've made me want to watch it again. Lol. Great video!
watch Jacob's ladder.
I liked how someone compared the white light he sees in the Finerty near death experience, to the dim light in Vegas after he kills Chris.
That dim light is symbolic of his soul/outlook because he decides to completely give into his hedonistic side, when this near death experience was a warning that he was on the wrong path
Nice interpretation. I'd even say the metaphor goes deeper. Death for Tony means the total absence of light in his life, it's a spiritual death if you will. Whatever conscience and morality he might have before this, is now gone. He's been at last totally corrupted by the criminal life of his family. That's why his own uncle, who used to be a father figure to him, is the one who ends the little light in Tony's life. The family (nor the mafia nor his real family) doesn't mean anything to him anymore. He just wants to enjoy his miserable life, without any regard for anything or anyone, that's why he has to let his briefcase, which represents the guilt and the weight of the life he never asked for and was thrust upon him. At the end of the season, he doesn't even remember the realization he had at the end of the first one. He's dead on the inside. Cut to black.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
@@remidelmes4839 Ralph Cypheretto wanted to eat wine and steak when they plugged him back in lol
Stupid & nonsensical analysis.
10:22 This hits so fucking hard. I try and tray and to be better morally and spiritually but the ease of sin always gets the better of me. But I think the point is we can never give up. If we gain an inch to becoming a better person then that is one inch closer to salvation then we were at before.
I always thought this was the beginning of the "up front" telling instead of "eluded to" telling of how the mob life is destroying Tony. Season 1 Tony is a happier, more caring, upbeat, funny guy that gets eroded overtime as mob life eats away at him. After he gets out of the coma it's like a soft reset where Tony wants to go back to being that old Tony but again mob life erodes away his happiness and soul. Until by the end of the series Tony is pretty unlikable. He's become cold, cruel, distant, depressive, uncaring, and just seems to be going through the motions of mob life until his demise.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Holy shit, the house from the coma was on the wall at holstens and 3 oclock
David chase wasnt kidding when he said its all there.
Great job
Never realized that! Just thought it was, you know, 'decoration'.
It's definitely not the house from the coma.
The coma house is a big colonial -hotel- home in NJ. The picture on the wall is a small farmhouse with a front porch and shed on the left
@@histguy101 Oh! Good eyes!
@@histguy101I think it’s the house from the calling all cars dream
I needed a channel like this after finishing the show for the first time, and this does not disappoint.
You passed me over for promotion, Kino. You knew.
Ultimately, the Sopranos is us watching Tony turn his back on changing his ways. Over and over again he ignores the Piano over his head, and this story-line is the final straw. I Think what makes most of this really impressive is that you can just gleam it from watching the episodes a few times and keeping up with the THEMES that run through Tony's story. It's subtle in a way that most shows cannot be, but also all spelled out and shown to you. I agree with about 95% of what you're presenting, and I think Finite (or however it's spelled) is the bad guy. The infinite vs the finite. I did not catch the portrait of the house and 3 o'clock, though I've always believed Tony died. Good stuff.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Borko better be getting his taste
two times he was told to kick up to borko , and what'd he do he kicks up to hbo
@@ultraheaven8968 made it all the way to the R’s. Next time, there won’t be a next time.
I dunno, Kino here falls under the "racket for the jews".
@@YaowBucketHEAD be careful with the desert people
Retroactively, cuz this is the first time I'm hearing about this
The finnerty inn or Infinity also Fin means end
Kev in finity
The most important takeaway from this video was "4 dollars a pound"
And as awful as this might sound, idk which exact episode bur I think late in the series, I crave fresh caught pescaditos everytime I hear/see Tony order that grouper sandwich lol
AMAZING . As someone who feels like they've wound up in a place they dont wanna be, this hit home. thank you
the dream sequence...whatever happened there
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?!
Calm down my cousin is dead
May gid rest his soul, huh
@@negoxis123 the wallet
Holy crap, the connection between the house and the picture at Holsteins is something I would never catch without it being pointed out! I was already in the camp of believing he was killed but now I’m actually sure. Though I think the point is that it might not matter because the conversation with his lawyer seems to imply that there’s a very solid case against Tony Soprano at this point. And the only surviving «friend» is Paulie, who when Tony Soprano seemed to be dying made it clear that he did not want to provide for Tony’s family. Things are over for Tony at the end of the series no matter what happens
I watched the final episode "live" and I thought Tony had made it out alive. But I now agree, everything points to his death, and I'm just glad we didn't see it. I'm currently re-watching with my wife, who did not see the series when it aired, and we're well into Season 6, and the Godfather restaurant scene, with Michael killing Sollozzo and the police captain, is described by AJ as his father's favorite movie scene. With Members Only paralleling Michael's actions as he walks to the bathroom, Tony dies doing what he loved in multiple ways.
Wow the 3 O'clock observation in Holstens blew me away.
I still don’t get it
It wasn’t 3:00 when they met
So what does the 3 even mean ???
@@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km as in directional. To his right, his “3 o clock.”
@@JuanTurks27 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Ok I get it
Good greif that’s a lot of depth tho
@@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km It's used in military, air control etc when you need to quickly tell someone where to look or where something is
i've always known about the 3'oclock toilet angle and the shooter, but never noticed the painting on the wall being the house that has indeed blown me away
The show itself was a masterpiece but these parts combined w his Trip in the desert and other dream sequences is why its the best show ever created. I will say the wire comes close in its character development of an entire city but there were magic moments that made sopranos the greatest show ever
I’m with you. I saw breaking bad and thought it was as good as it gets… then I watched the sopranos a couple times. It simply does not get better than the sopranos.
The final scene when livia was waiting for him inside and tony b was telling tony that it was time to go home is one of the best tv scenes i’ve ever witnessed, phenomenal show
And Paulie talking while “Finnerty” is angry and screaming for the noise to stop
LOL "Anyway, four dollars a pound." I loved that dream.
What is the significance of Kevin Finnerty being from Kingman, Arizona? Was the town picked at random? I know a lot of ex-mobsters went into the witness protection program in Arizona, such as Sammy the Bull.
@@ericbonofacio4695 Interesting theory. I had never made that connection.
Doesn't big Puss also talk to Skip about AZ for his WP destination?
Wow never seen this theory. Kevin finnerty is Tony’s witness protection identity. I love the theory that our dreams are who we really are and “reality “ is who we think and tell ourselves we are, almost like reality itself is a defense mechanism we fabricate to shield us from the painful truth. Crazy to think of
Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, all the while, a great Kino carries me across the Jersey Turnpike.
These analysis vids just keep getting better and better!
No film or programme has done dreams like the sopranos. Such a phenomenal piece of art and television.
Twin Peaks.
This is a fantastic video. I never made that connection with Chris saying “3 o’clock” and Tony’s supposed killer being at 3 o’clock.
Probably one of the best soprano videos on RUclips
I think you're spot on with Charmaine, I thought that same thing. Tony and Charmaine dated in high school and would have probably stayed together had it not been for Tony's involvement in organized crime. In that sense Carmella represent his marriage to the mob while Charmaine is the opposite of that, as she states herself in one of the early episodes.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
Artie would have been in the Mob if it weren't for Charmaine. Apparently he was the bad influence on Tony when they were growing up!
One thing that really caught my attention was when Tony was reluctant to give up his suitcase, saying "his life was in there", possibly meaning handing it over would've meant death, symbolically giving away his life
Captain obvious here.
"Whattaya hear, whattaya say?"
Nice analysis Kino, keep up the great work!
Thanks for the support!!
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
I always thought the shadowy woman was just his mother, and they couldn't have the actual actress who played livia because she was dead.
These Sopranologs will be invaluable watching for Sopranos newbies when The Many Saints of Newark is finally out. Good one, Kino! Way to put that degree to work.
This video wasn't recommended to me, I searched for it because I was interested in a deeper analysis after watching the show. If I had come looking just 4 months ago I don't think I'd have found anything like this on the site so thank you.
Really interesting video.
Just when you thought this show couldn’t get any deeper!
The depth of detail and subtle clues make rewatching so easy, never have I watched a show over and over as much as The Sopranos.
I always thought it was Charmaine’s voice too.
I was once in the hospital because I was really badly injured and almost got burnt alive as a kid and in the hospital I was having very vivid realistic dreams that I was me but in a different life. I grew up and then had a wife in the dream. It was a very extra ordinary feeling.
I remember her sitting on a table and asking if I was hungry? If I want anything to eat? Makes me cry when I think about this because it just felt so fucking real. Like if I was really awake but inside that dream.
I also had a different life dream vruh it was fucked up. I wrote it it all down.
The dream ended with my receiving letters of the family of my dream wife, whom hurt me and expelled me from their home for my relationship with her, saying they were sorry but I just kinda like "eh its ok whatever" and moved to see rhe next letters.
Gives me hope for a good omen of having no trouble with forgiveness in my life, the only real thing that matters.
Wow... I never picked up on the “patio furniture salesman” bit!
I can't believe after years of watching Sopranos clips on RUclips I am just now stumbling into this this amazing insight. By far the best interpretation I've seen to date.
I thought the woman on the phone sounded like Gloria (the goomar that committed suicide), but charmaine is an interesting theory as well 🤔
lol just watched that ep and my first thought was Adrianna. Charmaine makes a lot more sense tho lol. I do think Adrianna and tony's relationship is really interesting tho and wish the show explored it more. only on episode 4 of season 6 so maybe they do later.
@@owengray3785 oh they explore it alright lol. Come back and talk about it when you’re done
This show offered what I think are probably the best dream sequences I've ever seen, because they are structured so much like dreams I have had (and maybe everyone else). Different identity, different loved ones (the voice on the phone isn't Carmela's voice), people, locations, and circumstances all change without reason. "Real" people appearing in a dream might have a totally different persona. Coherent, rational statements are blended with total nonsense/non-sequiturs. Some references are easy to grasp, others have little or no reason at all. Pretty interesting stuff.
Great content! I always interpreted in the coma dream that when Tony sees Tony B and about to go into that house he’s being coerced into walking into Hell.
Really comprehensive analysis, even for a 10-minute video. This answered many questions I had when I first watched the episode. Thank you
Many argue that he didn’t actually get worse and that many of the seemingly evil deeds were a form of repentance. Trying to fix what he feels he created in people like Christopher and Ralphie.
Nevertheless, I don’t think it was just regular life “picking at it”. It was his depression and his inevitable transformation into the person he hated the most: his mother.
FINALLY, an analysis video about this, been looking for one for years!
I noticed when he's on the phone with his wife the 1st time he says "my whole life was in that briefcase" which is why he can't take it into the house later cause he would be accepting death if he gives it up.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino...
I always liked the Varsity athlete pictures on the wall in the final scene as well..
Kino should get his wings for this video.
Your Sopranos videos are superb, keep them coming. Made me want to rewatch the series again for the 6th time
Wow, thanks!
Great video. Funny that you hear Charmaine's voice on the phone because I always thought she sounded just like Gloria Trillo.
In the diner in the final scene, Tony is wearing the same shirt he was wearing when he was shot by Junior. The shirt Tony wears when he *enters* the diner is a different shirt entirely than the one he's wearing when he's sitting down. This seems to indicate that the scene in the diner itself is not actually happening - it's either hell or a dream since Tony manages to change shirts between walking in and sitting down and he's somehow wearing the same shirt that got a bullet put through it.
There's also a shot in the The Test Dream where Tony walks into his old coach's office. It looks almost identical to the shot where Tony walks into the diner in the finale - Tony has the same facial expression in both shots, the camera is in a similar position, and in both shots he's wearing a gray shirt with a black jacket over it. It's very possible that the last scene is not even happening and is just a dream. It shares a lot in common with other dreams Tony has had throughout the series, including unexplained wardrobe changes, figures appearing who represent important elements of his life, and it even contains a picture of the house he's occasionally dreamed about.
watched half a dozen vids about that last scene now yet no one mentioned that shirt change. wow
Wow, that's flipping amazing insight. Brilliant.
Kevin Finnerty is an Irish name. Hell is an Irish bar according to Chris
Charles Schwab over heeeee
One of my favorite details is that in an earlier dream, he's in his house, but the rooms are drastically altered, I have dreams myself all the fucking time where I'll be in my house, or a very familiar building, but it's very different, and out of order, loved that shit
the fact James dropped the whole new jersey accent show how much of a talent James really is
Why DID he drop the accent?
@@anthonykelly7248 im guessing if tony went civilian he wouldn't have hung out with all the ppl with north jersey accents and just ended up sound the way he did? IDK but it is a total contrast to how tony could have been
@@mariyatakeuchi9009 The New Jersey accent Gandolfini used as Tony Soprano for the entire series was a fake accent. In this episode, he actually spoke in his regular every day accent. This is the one episode that you hear James Gandolfini talk how he actually talks.
@chiefosceola14 Doesn't he talk the way he does in real life in the pilot and first episodes? Unless he just used his real voice but not real accent there.
This is excellent. Liked and Subbed.
Even the somber music is bang-on.
I never realized how much this episode is connected to other episodes
Damn! Talk about a superb 10 minute analogy & great practical criticism. Now I have to listen out for Charmaine’s voice on the phone, in that scene, to see if I agree with you. Great work
David Chase has said this was not a dream like the others. I think Tony was getting a lesson from God-a parable in the form of the monks who accused him of being a bad man. The monks were the instructing him that he did bad things-"lose your arrogance"; the doctor in the dream examining his x-rays says he has a darkness. He emerges from the coma due to love for Meadow, but Tony quips that life is boring and ends up choosing evil. He kills Chrissy, and wins in Vegas with devil heads appearing on the slot machine and Tony rolls around the casino floor yelling he can't lose. He takes peyote and says "I GET IT" but he doesn't--it's his arrogance again - having chosen the path to Satan and sealing his doom.
He sold his soul when he killed his own son.
I cant explain why I felt such disgust and literal aversion to even watching the screen anymore after that happened, but that I knew he had made a deal with the evil one.
No connection with the monks and the Asian doctor examining his eyes/consciousness him in his coma?
@makutas-v261 he never killed his son, Chris was his nephew
@@CaseyDavies-od7ir Chris evoked more of a son presence to Tony which made the scene even harder to watch.
Amazing how deep The Sopranos actually was. Things like Christopher saying '3:00' to Tony and the picture of the house on the diner wall at Tony's 3:00. All of these things you completely miss.
My theory on Tony's coma. It's simply a reference to the Matrix. The movie i mean. This show is basicly a comedy. Extremly smart. Very well played, and shot. But not really deep meaning oriented. For the most part. So you can tell that Tony's coma double episodes are enigmatics some how. To me Tony is just intubated instead of being plugged in the back of the head like in the matrix. His new identity, same. The non sense monks, same. Just bold guys outside the matrix, like the movie. What the fuck am i talking about ? Watch closer. Tony is Ben Affleck. AJ is Casey Affleck. Polly is Mel Gibson. Junior Soprano is Robert Deniro. Johnny Sacramoni is Paul Sorvino. And It goes on and on. These Hollywhood dudes are using clones/avatars/whatever of themselfes to play in multiples shows and movies but with different identities. I'm crazy ? In season 2, tell me that Richie Aprile is David Proval and not Al Pacino..
Also, Finnerty is an Irish surname. That plus the information we get about Kevin selling faulty equipment implies that Kevin Finnerty could be a member of the Irish Mob. Family and Italian heritage are obviously major themes in the show. These characters are proud and protective of their heritage and families. There's some interesting messaging with that info and tons of ways to interpret it. I'd probably have to spend more time thinking about this to give a thorough and proper interpretation, but I'll leave some basic thoughts, and hopefully, others can run with it and give a better interpretation. Tony's previous dreams about being an immigrant himself (rather than being a second-generation immigrant), the Italian woman he hallucinated, his trip to Italy, encouraging Carmela to go to Italy instead of France, etc. hint at an internal identity crisis about not having a sense of home. His panic attacks about the ducks in the pilot establish that he has anxiety about his own nuclear family. We know his home life as a child was also not good, to say the least. On top of that, he also seems to be struggling with his identity as an Italian American. Oversimplifying the nuanced discussion of ethnicity and second-wave immigration, we know that Italian Americans have been discriminated against and we know that these characters still feel that discrimination in the 1990s/2000s (Columbus episode comes to mind, though there are several other examples of this in the show). The Italian mafia was established, in part, as a reaction to this discrimination and Italian immigrants not being able to get legal work, and I think that adds to this sense that Tony feels like he had no real choice in ending up in the mob. He feels stuck and like the odds were stacked against him, and a lot of that has to do with the family he was born into. Not just hereditary depression and an unstable household, but also a larger system of discrimination. This is also amplified by Tony's own racism throughout the series. Tony mentions that he feels like he's come into power as a boss at the same time that the mob seems to be ending, but not just the mob is on the decline. It is clear that there's a sense of Italian American culture is disappearing. Changing neighborhoods and the shrinking of Little Italy is a clear and present theme throughout the show. There's clearly a sense here that Tony feels like he and his family has never really belonged here, which establishes no real sense of home. Again, this interpretation is a little rushed and messy, I'd love the think more about this, but figured I'd share in the meantime.
I hear Charmains voice too. Also I think Kevin Finnite robs Buddhist monks (*Which I dont think tony would know much about Buddhism outside of what Janice might of told him before he rolled his eyes and tried to ignore her.) because they represent a life free from the control of desire. Which Real Tonys life is filled with that. Dream Tony seems way more happy even while he's confronting a situation that would drive real Tony into lashing out at every roadblock.
This is so out of topic but I need to say this. The episode where Paulie is so fucking paranoid about his biopsy and he went to bada bing and saw mother mary as a hooker shook me. fucking A that was so out of the blue that scene
Only in his Dreams will Tony ever be a Varsity Athlete with large Hands
Something interestingting I just saw.
If you take the first letter of In At The Oaks, you get the Italian word IATO, which means waiting ( and moritorium as a synonym)
This has to be more than a coincidence ,as it basically translate to Purgatory. Which Pauly does bring up
Has David Chase ever done an interview about his beliefs in religion/supernatural? I'd love to hear about considering the elements present in the Sopranos (most notable Mikey's ghost haunting Paulie)
I remember awhile back reading that David chase wrote the Sopranos in a world where catholicism is the objective reality, the most notable piece of evidence is paulie seeing the Virgin Mary, you can see her reflection in a mirror, which leads to the conclusion that it wasn't just a hallucination on paulie's part.
its almost Lynchian - its like their lost highway episode or something
In Jewish belief when you have a dream of a family member telling you to come home it means your going to die. Coming home going to be with your family in your afterlife . That’s why he hesitated and said no.
I love the eerie dream sequences of Sopranos, it was almost Twilight Zone-ish, gotta go for 6th run of the series.
Congratulations kino, and thank you for everything, followed every single episode. Can't wait for the future, cheers
I hate when people say they skip the dream stuff. The way they absolutely nail the dream logic itself is a feat on its own.
I really love what you did at the end by having some food for thought. It seemed real, not super cheesy like someone less astute would’ve made it.
My father was in a coma and when he came to and regained another coherence to talk he described having packed his bags and was going somewhere with others…and it was too horrific for him to say or be able to continue.
I pray Jesus leads your father to heaven.
One of the best, if not the best, analysis of the Sopranos I've seen.. thanks
Thank you!!
i love the complexity of this show so much man. i must’ve seen it 4 times now and there’s still small stuff like this that is completely new to me
8:00 I actually thought she sounded like Gloria
Spot on sir. Glad I found your channel. More sopranos please