Mary O there is an article written on Huffington Post about it....this isn't a novel concept, I wouldn't be surprised if she came across the Marcia Sirota article since she addressed it in this interview
The 2017 new and improved version of the player / dog / womanizer. Oh I want to redefine the relationship and sleep with other women with still sleeping with you. WOW, if you fall for this you have been bamboozled and you simply have the brand new 2017 better graphics, bigger screen, better camera, i(dog her out)phone 8+
Money Long As 6 Mile Polyamory is a thing and is typically mutually accepted and indulged in on both sides of the relationship. If he were playing her he would've lied to her. But he was open and honest about what he was capable of being and sharing as he is. He's given her the choice to explore that with him or not. How exactly does that make him a dog?
I feel like she thinks she can change him, that scares me because she's clearly a monogamous relationship type person and he's not. But i like their honesty
Lehlogonolo Mabetoa idk. I got the vibe that she would be down for like a sexual experience with him but not a real relationship. He already said he would sleep with many women and that was a deal breaker for her.
GHchic he doesn't prey on the weak and that's not fair to assume at all. A weak sexually polygamous man wouldn't tell someone on the first date that he's into open relationships. He'd lie and find a clearly docile women who he knows would put up with his lying and cheating.
He 's speaks like someone divorced from emotion, who doesn't realize that most women just want to be exclusively & unconditionally loved. "The most disrespected ... unprotected...& neglected person in America is the black woman." -Malcolm X
Listening to Sam's perspective (from how she was treated in clubs, to how she decided to profit from the disrespect, to the hurt of her last relationship, to her feelings of abandonment) just sounded like a narrative I keep hearing over & over again from woc. Now "modern" women are afraid to say they want exclusive love, especially in front of men like Jordan that speak of "sexual success" & seem to reject the idea of a stable loving monogamous relationship.
The subtle cruelty of matching a WOC clearly ready for committed love with a man who is admittedly unwilling to participate seemed to highlight this quote for me. It was like THE AND pouring salt in an open social wound.
Mary O being nice comes from a place of ppl pleasing...being nice isn't real...but being kind allows us to advocate for yourself and connect to other ppl
well yes I know but what I'm saying is she doesn't "subscribe" to polyamorous relationships, and he's not willing to give that up..but yet she's willing to date him by taking it "one step at a time".. that is just asking for feelings to get hurt..its ok to walk away from a cute face yall lol
i don't think he's a true poly. he said he started out as a "nice guy" and got hurt. then he went on to cheating (and feeling a lot of shame and guilt over it) to porn/masturbation addiction. sounds like he equates emotional intimacy with pain. he is dating from a place of hurt. the poly relationship is a band-aid, and i suspect that if he really fell hard for a woman, he couldn't stand the idea of her having sex (and relationships) with other men.
jewelyi82 most dudes can’t stand it lol. It’s like a double edged sword, sounds very good in theory. How many poly amorous RELATIONSHIPS (btw 2ppl) do we see?
jewelyi82 you hit the nail right on the head.. that man is broken emotionally.. and feels that brings an a**hole will get him more.. I guess is true because.. he got the date so 🤷🏽♀️
She doesn't need to kick it with him and see what happens. He believes in open relationships. She has abandonment issues and wants to be accepted. This has disaster written all over it.
Girl don't EEEVVEEENN waste your time. I can't BELIEVE she was so chill when he said maybe most dancers are like that but you aren't. BOY DID YOU LEARN NOTHING
i feel like....everything about her is genuinely refreshing. it's amazing to hear someone say things you've been scared to articulate even to yourself in terms true enough that it really sits with you, and she'll just kinda...do it. i can tell she's grown into the person she is and it makes me feel like i can do better as well. really love these videos.
hey, definitely her points from 8:45 - 9:54. i was interested in everything she said from both videos, but when she started talking about the resentment that can build from keeping quiet about issues in your relationships (romantic, platonic, any really), i almost couldn't believe how much it reminded me of issues i'm currently sifting through. it's like i've been waking up after years of intrinsically fearing what would happen if i did, and thinking i was being good to myself by avoiding conflict for the sake of others. thanks for the reply.
donte j. I want to definitely meet her and talk to her, the way she articulated her thoughts her fears etc all of that really was spoken truth. She's very open honest and genuine and i love that
Shit....I wish I'd learned to be kind, not nice yearsss ago! I was the sweet, shy "nice" girl in school and was bullied relentlessly! I love to see smart beautiful women like this....it gives me hope!! 💪💪💪
I don't think they would be good together in the long run. Both are sexually liberated and open, so that superficial aspect would run for a while. She is too intelligent, wise and self aware for him. He has many fake layers about him.
Thank you! My first thought about him was liar. And then he kept giving those vague answers. I was like girl, just get up and leave. Don't talk to him. I was not feeling him at all.
How was he being fake. That was as honest and as vulnerable as you could put yourself in. He directly said he is a cheater. Just sounds like you guys have a skepticism problem with these kind of guys
Talking bluntly and openly about sex, admitting he is a cheater, does not make one honest... Just a fact he is a cheater is a massive red flag. Some people give you their worst openly, so you think they will be honest with you always. It would be naïve to believe that.
what is cheater? not sticking to "the rules of a relationship"?? The rules set by who?? He is very clear about how he thinks. Clearly he would only want to be with a girl who is equally liberate about her ideas of a relationship. Dont judge someone just because your ideas of a relationship are antiquated...
Until the day, every or most humans take a moral stand about cheating being acceptable in a relationship of 2, I am happy with my "antiquated" idea... And just by labeling it so, you passed a judgment on me.. haha
He’s just broken. The fucked up part about that is guys know they homies ain’t shit and they never confront him or cut him off. When Men don’t feel like a Man they abuse women!!
This woman is the next big thing. HONEST. BLUNT AND STEADFAST. I absolutely love her, cause there are things I do not agree with but they she brought it, it was in the most understanding and intelligent way... I ended up seeing a good side of what I don't even agree with. Most of the time when people don't agree with something, it always comes from a place of ignorance or lack of understanding And I love that she open my eyes to that
That guy just showed us a typical case of cognitive dissonance (which happens when someone has two contradictory values, or if their values and their actions contradict each other) :P In this case, this guy's actions (cheating on his girlfriend) didn't fit with his idea/value of being a "nice guy" and not wanting to repeat with anyone what he had gone through before. To alleviate the discomfort associated with cognitive dissonance, he had two options: either change his behaviour to fit his values, or change his values to fit his behaviour. He chose to change his values in order to still see himself as a good person and therefore he doesn't see what he did back then as cheating anymore. Yeah... I miss my psychology classes
You make me miss mine too. My 1st choice at university when I applied was psychology but there was no bursary for it and I didn't want a student loan. Got a bursary for teaching and was so glad to find psychology as a module in teaching. I enjoyed those classes very much and would love to continue with it. Just skeptical of struggling to find a job afterwards. I don't wanna study in vain no matter how much I love the course. I must get a better paying job from studying further. 😂
I am thinking Don't Do It! Because based of her responses, she sounds like his ex and unfortunately because he is attractive she is willing to 'kick it with him' likely because she feels he would not judge her job...he is into open relationships lol...and he did not strike me as someone that likes bw (that is not to be shady, I am a bw)...! He is poly...in denial
Girl, why would you waste your time and energy on someone who doesn't fit the criteria you're looking for? Remember what you said, if it's not authentic it'll be doomed from the beginning (paraphrasing). Both seem nice. But, nice doesn't always cut it. I've dealt, and in many ways am still dealing, with abandonment issues. Like her, I was also raised in a culture/home where I was taught to be a nice doormat. Consequently, in relationships I never spoke up which lead to silent resentment, like she said. When someone tell you who they are, believe them! Them telling you is a luxury, many don't. Her fear coupled with his polyamorous belief would be toxic to her soul. Though, I believe in a lot of his views, his views about his daughters being "sexually successful" and his views about "polyamory" are core beliefs that we don't share. He would make a good friend (he seems very nonjudgmental) but not a good boyfriend for me or her.
You've taken the words out of my mouth! I've enjoyed watching this ep and I found myself relating to a lot of what she said but the ending struck me a bit precisely for the reasons you've mentioned. After he opened up to her about his polyamorous beliefs I didn't expect her to admit that she would go on further dates with him - and this is not because those beliefs are in any way wrong but because they simply clash with hers. Even if it's just casual dating, I find the risk of her ending up hurt to be too high; whenever there's another person involved so are our feelings too and even if we don't plan on letting those feelings lead to attachment we ultimately don't have that much control over them. I find her amount of self-awareness and honesty refreshing and it made me reflect on some of my own issues as well but I think that she would be subconsciously sabotaging herself by further pursuing him. Her mind is making her believe that he could be/is someone who he isn't. As you've said, when someone tell you who they are, believe them.
Alanassy Trust she's too smart to waste her time on him she's being polite and garnishing information at the same time. She knows EXACTLY what she's doing here.
AmericanBoy1118 Chemistry is only part of the love equation, which I admit they do have. But, it's "compatibility" that will doom them before it starts. A lot of people underestimate compatibility and over compensate chemistry. If needs can not be met in a relationship, a negative net gain will occur over time, leaving him/her in an emotional deficit; and more-than-likely it will be her. He has told her what he has done to someone in the past. He never said he changed; he said he will just reveal his polyamory beliefs upfront, which means the things that he did, he's still going to do them. I don't think it's love or lust, on her part, I think it's more to do with a broken pathology. Coming from a broken home myself, children that become adults seek to correct things in their childhood through their relationships. We were wired to be co-dependence. We grow up seeking others approval and validation which might explain her working in the sex industry performing for men. Her broken psychology promotes the broken pathology. It's a hard cycle to break. Her need to be in a relationship seems to pull her to men who wouldn't be emotionally supportive and/or physically available. His belief in polyamory will have him spending time away from her and with someone else. When you are in recovery (and she seems like she is) you don't need to be around your kryptonite.
Shane C Good point. I just got that vibe from the last 30 seconds that they're going to take it "one step at a time..." to the bedroom. 😅 It's just that people say one thing and mean another sometimes, ya know? I mean, he gave her a piece of his open honesty, warned her/voiced his "only concern." She even said that she doesn't "fully agree with it" even though she'll agree to "kick it" with him anyway. Red flag there? Maybe they'll screw, maybe they won't? Maybe they'll reach a dead end before anything happens? Maybe they won't? They can even just be cool peoples to each other. Not ruling that out. Guess we'll have to stay tuned. Lol
At least he is honest about his bullshit. Women need to listen to guys - he is telling you who he is - full of it. When asked if she felt chemistry - I was so disappointed she said yes. I realized she didn't learn anything or listen to a word he said. Perfect example of how desperate women can be.
I think he would be great in an open relationship. And not necessarily a relationship where you two can date anyone else, but one where there is very open dialogue and non-judgment is involved.
Shaz123 I agree. I think he would be very loyal in a relationship, more loyal that "monogamous" men. He's honest and he'd tell his significant other who he plans on sleeping with. That doesn't mean that a girl has to accept that, however. I suggest he date another women into the same thing.
I think he is polyamorous but has only ever date monogamous people who consider polyamory cheating. I'm glad that he can now be honest about it from the get go and give the other person a chance to decide if that's something they'd be into before they're in too deep. I loved this blind date. I hope they can be friends.
I loved this one! I love how honest she was. I feel as if at the end she kinda of did what most women do when we are attracted to a guy. Even though we know he isn't willing to offer what we want, we still think there is a chance for things to be good. I mean she clearly said she wasn't down for what he wanted and he clearly told her what he wanted . But she still was like "we'll see where it goes". He just told you what it would be like. I think that's a problem for most of us. We still have hope even tho it's pretty clear.
That's it, I'll never be nice anymore. She's so right, I was treated like a trash, I'll just be kind to be comfortable with myself, but never nice. Thank you girl!
I'm not sure that I'd call this honest. Think she was honest and thorough with her answers. He, however, sounded as if he were spewing practiced answers that sound somewhat intelligent. Barely scratching the surface. I mean he said he enjoys sex when there's a deeper connection in part 1 but he's willing to jump in bed on a 1st date? Hmmm 🤔
Bola Obafemi He said maturation and sex with a woman are about the same to him pleasure wise. He prefers sex when there is a connection. However, he does not wish to put forth the effort. He still finds enjoyment in it.
He gave her that pre-relationship speech:" I like this, this, this, but not this". (Midway through the relationship/situationship): "I told you what my issues were, but you still stayed". The problem with people telling you what they're likes (issues) are, is that they have no intentions to change them, they only want you to be aware of them, while conveniently mentioning it's your fault for not heeding the warning when things go array. He didn't even acknowledge what she wanted, which was monogamy. Even though she seems self-aware, you can tell she still has a I'm-nice-love-me-im-a-good-person vibe. I think it's bc she wants to change him with her "I'm a good woman" ways, AND bc he was giving her SOME honesty on his answers. Run girl, run.
Did anyone notice the "role reversal". As a dancer most people would expect her to be a sexual being whereas, he would be more calm. Their views on sex or both open yet different. She more "consevative" and he very big and indepedent. I loved this video.
He seems jaded and bitter. I also feel that she wants to sound confident in her stance regarding relationships, but she's someone easily swayed and is seeking his approval. My conclusion comes from watching part 1 as well as part 2.
I loved this one but yea he'll totally break her heart, their views on relationships is different, so why say yes to a date and see where it goes when u don't agree with his relationship views, she's now approaching it with the I can change him aspect like most women do and it ends up all wrong...i may be wrong but that's my opinion
Oh give me a break. You can't presume to know how she's approaching a simple date. She seems very perceptive and intelligent, I doubt she's going on ONE date thinking she is about to change him. She clearly knows what she wants and had a frank and candid conversation with him about their differences. She could just be going to have fun, and that's OK.
Baby don't let Jordan fool you, she's mastered "being kind and agreeable" she's definitely not weak. She also knows men and exactly what they want to hear. She knows herself as well, so she definitely knows how to protect her heart.
This was one of the most interesting blind date videos, one that I was anticipating since the preview last year. I think she's a confident, articulate, intelligent and beautiful woman. She's comfortable with herself and doesn't try to be anything she's not. Definitely more emotionally mature than he is. I don't think he's as promiscuous as he's trying to portrait himself. He mentioned that he was hurt in previous relationships and I think that holds him back from opening up emotionally. He also mentioned that he enjoys sex more in a committed relationship so his open relationship concept doesn't seem to suit him, not his authentic self anyway. all that to say...DON'T DO IT GIRL! He's not ready and you deserve a man who's all yours! What he needs is some more alone time to figure himself out xx
I don't think he is fake, I think he is a deep person that has built himself around individualism and I believe that the more he accepts his individualism the better person he will become... but I want him to open up some more about who he really is to other people, because he does seem to hide and that creates a negative aura around him...
She's everything I've ever wanted to be and she makes me want to better myself. Love strong established women with powerful minds😍. (I wonder if he learned anything)
No... if he can be with a woman he defines as phenomenal for 7 years, watch her break down over his actions repeatedly, and then say his only regret is staying too long... he is incapable of emotionally connecting enough to value what it is she is actually saying or bringing to the table.
He doesn't believe that what he did in his past relationship is considered cheating because of his sexual beliefs NOW? Well, it IS cheating because your {AND} at the time was not "subscribed" to your sexual agenda. He probably destroyed whatever bit of self esteem and trust she had left.
this was such an interesting encounter. one of those ones where you experience a person whos just not on the same way as you but you get to talking and you find those commonalities in thought and you decide well, why not give this a try? i think his transparency is a defense mechanism served from past hurt that she viewed as charming because a man being as blunt as he was is definitely refreshing. and him recognizing her intelligence and her being different from the dancer stereotype gave her more reason to see what he was about. i think they both mean well and he's definitely less fake than people in these comments seem to believe. the interaction initially was a bit of a shit show but i found myself smiling with them in the end because i could tell the energy was one of "I'm not used to this but i'll go there with you." and it was fucking refreshing
This series is such an multifaceted gift. It sheds light on not only the individual characteristics but also on the ever fluid nature of love itself. Thank you for making space to represent someone who is exploring what it means to be in intimate relationships outside of the conventional formula of relationships. So much appreciation for this Skin Deep work
This girl speaks to my heart. I agree with her on so many things and I truly wished I had more friends like her. She is so wise and so intelligent. I could listen to her for hours! You can see how honest and true to herself she is. I'm litteraly in love with her personnality and her point of view on relationships. I also kind of find pieces of myself in her. I like her a lot, I feel like she's doing so well as a woman, or more generally, as a human being. She's so respectful of herself and of others, which I truly admire; we know it isn't an easy task in the society we're living in nowadays. Thank you, The Skin Deep for bringing such amazing people into light and allowing us to benefit from their wisdom and amazing state of mind.
I can personally relate to her as a woman.. she will bust his bubble majority of their time together and he will eventually become imitated by her intellect and honesty as well as her sense of stability. He's not a good person, for her to be fair; I read him before he even spoke and I perceive about him right to the core revolving their conversation.
Bro, it's cool you've discovered that you can do what you want with out having any regret. But don't walk over people because you can. We've all had our hearts put through the mincer, but at least some of us who have survived that are still willing to give our respect towards others. Move on from that space brother.....
their different thoughts/approaches to relationships. Him being someone who doesn't want boundaries and her wanting boundaries yet they still agreed to going on a date. Give love a chance!
Okay, this guy was full of ish when he told her that he was interested. I feel like he would like her as a friend with benefits bc clearly they have very little in common and he knows that. He knows that she finds him attractive and he wants to see how far he can go with her physically. However, he gave her full disclosure so she can't be upset when he shows his true colors.
I don't like them for each other at all. Even just the silence and the look they give each other at 6:06 screams to me that they're on two completely different pages. She's looking at him like she can change him or as if she's trying to charm him, or even like a challenge (that I'm absolutely sure she'd lose), but he's not even there. He doesn't completely know himself, and I think she knows who she wants to be, but she isn't there yet.
We actually had her at our weekly Facebook + Instagram Live session and learned so much more about her! You can still check it out here: facebook.com/TheSkinDeep/videos/1862791353992146/
She is right about not being nice. I learned that myself and it's the one thing I said to my lil cousin. My aunt didn't like me saying that though, but from experience I thought it was the best thing I could have told her. Nice gets you nowhere and people walk all over you. I've also learned to be more selfish, My selflessness in putting others before myself moved them on and kept me stagnant. Life will teach you a lot of harsh lessons and hard truths.
I learnt to be "kind and not nice" from a very early age, coming to think about it. 🤔 I just never knew this phrase. 😂 My "family"/relatives treated my immediate family (mom, dad and us kids) with so much contempt cz we were poor. They would expect us to attend their functions or visit them while looking down on us so that at their functions, we'd be more obligated to "help" AKA slave away the hardest cz in black South African families, functions mean people going there to cook and clean up, which is a loooooot of work as almost the whole village turns up to attend. So you basically cook for the village, using your relatives and whoever else wants to also help. It's extremely tiring. At the age of 12/13, I decided to NOT EVER be a part of any of that. My family is my mom, dad and siblings and we don't do any functions so it's not like we expect any help in that regard from anyone. The only time there'll be a gathering will be for a funeral cz that's inevitable. People will come and help cz my family does go and support their functions. I'm the only black sheep in the family. I refuse to be nice. Ah ah!
I truly enjoyed hearing your stories and getting to know you through this. As the minutes passed, preconceptions I felt about how I thought you are like vanished. What did it was your raw yet respectful genuine nature and I wish more people including myself could be like that - flaws and all.
I'll propably tell my daughter that she need to know that not every guy is nice to you actually like you, that she need to love herself first to learn love somebody else.
Okay I love this woman so much. Honestly role model! She's amazing and deserves so much love and support. Also all this communication and sex positivity is amazing and refreshing
Bianca Allen I have reservations about the looks... yeah he's good looking. BUT , how does he look without the hat!?!?... happened to me, nice looking dude,until that hat came off!!!!...
I feel that this guy is very much your classic fuckboy one with the contradictory statements. But not in a bad sense just he seems like a guy that says what he thinks the partner or person he is with wants to hear. There isn't that same level of maturity she is much more assured and mature. I feel like he has a few types of relationships he needs to experience before he would be on the same level as her. I also don't think he was being as truthful either but that was more along the lines of saying what you think people want to hear. Particularly on the comments on cheating while it's great that he was honest about that sort of thing, he almost seemed proud of the fact. Just by the way his body language was when he talked about putting the girl through the wars. He seems very closed off and doesn't have his own depth of character, looks like he is still finding out how to be comfortable in himself. He isn't looking for a commitment and without knowing more you could assume that when he does commit he would be the type of person not to really commit ( i.e cheating while married). It was interesting to see these quite polar opposites in many respects talking and to see how it plays out.
They don't share the same values so it was disappointing the she agreed to go out with him. Why do we women do this? We step over our boundaries then wonder later why it didn't work out? Clearly there is chemistry and that is confusing the situation. "Take it one step at a time and see how it works out". Huh? He told you. But you're thinking that perhaps you'll be the one to change him? Girl, go kick it with him and then run in the other direction. Until you start to respect your own boundaries you won't find someone who will respect you. Peace!
So true. I think she gave him a pass because he's cute and (here, I may be projecting), it makes people feel beautiful to know that someone cute has taken an interest in them, especially when that person is better looking than them (I hate to say the last part, but I think it factors into the decision. It's like an immediate confidence booster.
You're right! She seems confident on the surface but underneath she not holding herself to a high standard. He's cute... yup, I'll kick it with you. Been there done that and learned... we're all on our path. #nojudgement
aww, the fade to the end screen with them smiling at eachother longingly really got me. I really hope tou guys do a follow up video. I want to see if they ended up going out on a date or not.
I'm sick, she wants to go on a date with this dude. She's bright, recognizes the GLARING red flag to her - in ideology AND practice, so what's this "see where it goes" bs???! I want to hope she played along for this series and really won't follow through on the date but her eyes and the comments on here tell me she probably finds him attractive, like you all do. Why do women silence red flags like this?? "He sounds full of it and is likely an unapologetic cheat but, eh, a date can't hurt." Ladies... PLEASE! YES IT CAN and it WILL. Sigh. PS Love the lip glass/shine on her, and thought I could will her into licking her teeth from here, lol. I'm always paranoid when I wear reds - I lick across my teeth every few mins of talking.
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I LOVE "be kind but don't be nice" so true
We do too!
Mary O there is an article written on Huffington Post about it....this isn't a novel concept, I wouldn't be surprised if she came across the Marcia Sirota article since she addressed it in this interview
yea, because there is a huge difference between kind and nice???? that was sarcasm. some alternative facts type stuff.
The 2017 new and improved version of the player / dog / womanizer. Oh I want to redefine the relationship and sleep with other women with still sleeping with you. WOW, if you fall for this you have been bamboozled and you simply have the brand new 2017 better graphics, bigger screen, better camera, i(dog her out)phone 8+
Money Long As 6 Mile Polyamory is a thing and is typically mutually accepted and indulged in on both sides of the relationship. If he were playing her he would've lied to her. But he was open and honest about what he was capable of being and sharing as he is. He's given her the choice to explore that with him or not. How exactly does that make him a dog?
I want them to be friends but not in a romantic relationship together.
avigirl1202 like best best friends
avigirl1202 agreed! I think he has a lot to learn from this lady!
avigirl1202 Yes, me neither. They're just not right for each other. So much of him than her.
Chloe ....The Stripper?
Friends?
They're destined to hook up sexually, for sure.
Surely she's capable of initiating him into real womanhood, if y'know whaddamean.
He is the walking description of 'I knew you were trouble when we first met'
Spot on.
l couldn't have put it any better even if l tried lol!!!
Yesss
I read him as a self-serving narcissist.
Well cause he said exactly what he wants when you first met. He's not deceiving. You could've walked away
"I can subscribe to that" lol I'm about to abuse tf out of that phrase
Me too lmfao!
Ramla Warsame oh someone finally said what I was thinking
Ramla Warsame 😹😹😹
lol
Me tooooo
I feel like she thinks she can change him, that scares me because she's clearly a monogamous relationship type person and he's not. But i like their honesty
Lehlogonolo Mabetoa idk. I got the vibe that she would be down for like a sexual experience with him but not a real relationship. He already said he would sleep with many women and that was a deal breaker for her.
Lehlogonolo Mabetoa she will hurt him, she's a strong one and he preys on the Weak. he's intrigued worth her now but she's not for him.
GHchic he doesn't prey on the weak and that's not fair to assume at all. A weak sexually polygamous man wouldn't tell someone on the first date that he's into open relationships. He'd lie and find a clearly docile women who he knows would put up with his lying and cheating.
I absolutely feel like she thinks she can. RUN GIRL, RUN. He told you exactly who he is. Listen to him.
nobody can change anybody.
He 's speaks like someone divorced from emotion, who doesn't realize that most women just want to be exclusively & unconditionally loved. "The most disrespected ... unprotected...& neglected person in America is the black woman." -Malcolm X
Listening to Sam's perspective (from how she was treated in clubs, to how she decided to profit from the disrespect, to the hurt of her last relationship, to her feelings of abandonment) just sounded like a narrative I keep hearing over & over again from woc. Now "modern" women are afraid to say they want exclusive love, especially in front of men like Jordan that speak of "sexual success" & seem to reject the idea of a stable loving monogamous relationship.
Amber Wright SAM IS THE GUY, JORDAN IS THE WOMAN
Amber Wright yeah he seems.. " I don't care" ish like who took Ur emotions ?
I'm confused by your comment. How do you relate the first half of your comment to the ending quote.
The subtle cruelty of matching a WOC clearly ready for committed love with
a man who is admittedly unwilling to participate seemed to highlight this quote for me. It was like THE AND pouring salt in an open social wound.
don't be nice i love that....
Mary O being nice comes from a place of ppl pleasing...being nice isn't real...but being kind allows us to advocate for yourself and connect to other ppl
talkindurinthemovie okay!!! That second part spoke to be. Snaps in a "z" formation!!
I think you honestly couldn't say it any better talkindurinthemovie.
this is why people get hurt..you KNOW he wont be faithful..you KNOW that is a problem for you?
WHY TRY TO DATE?? noooooooo girl
well yes I know but what I'm saying is she doesn't "subscribe" to polyamorous relationships, and he's not willing to give that up..but yet she's willing to date him by taking it "one step at a time".. that is just asking for feelings to get hurt..its ok to walk away from a cute face yall lol
i don't think he's a true poly. he said he started out as a "nice guy" and got hurt. then he went on to cheating (and feeling a lot of shame and guilt over it) to porn/masturbation addiction. sounds like he equates emotional intimacy with pain. he is dating from a place of hurt. the poly relationship is a band-aid, and i suspect that if he really fell hard for a woman, he couldn't stand the idea of her having sex (and relationships) with other men.
jewelyi82 most dudes can’t stand it lol. It’s like a double edged sword, sounds very good in theory. How many poly amorous RELATIONSHIPS (btw 2ppl) do we see?
Yessssssss!
jewelyi82 you hit the nail right on the head.. that man is broken emotionally.. and feels that brings an a**hole will get him more.. I guess is true because.. he got the date so 🤷🏽♀️
She doesn't need to kick it with him and see what happens. He believes in open relationships. She has abandonment issues and wants to be accepted. This has disaster written all over it.
V.S. Finally someone said it perfectly
yesssss
@@emilyhorneman3015 and amen... or (a (as in 1) man, in this case) 😝
I thought I was trippin'. Both of these people seem so delusional.
Totally agree
Girl don't EEEVVEEENN waste your time. I can't BELIEVE she was so chill when he said maybe most dancers are like that but you aren't. BOY DID YOU LEARN NOTHING
i liked him less and less and her more and more as the video went on lol
Me too!
I love the concept of "nice" that she brings to the table, very strong
i wonder what her story is - she spoke so passionately about it
heartful you can see the way she speaks and in her eyes
She is one of the most captivating women I have ever had the pleasure of watching
That’s such a beautiful compliment
They are the first couple I've seen that strayed so often from the cards. It made their conversation seem more relatable.
i feel like....everything about her is genuinely refreshing. it's amazing to hear someone say things you've been scared to articulate even to yourself in terms true enough that it really sits with you, and she'll just kinda...do it. i can tell she's grown into the person she is and it makes me feel like i can do better as well. really love these videos.
We're glad you think so. What did she say that resonated with you the most?
hey, definitely her points from 8:45 - 9:54. i was interested in everything she said from both videos, but when she started talking about the resentment that can build from keeping quiet about issues in your relationships (romantic, platonic, any really), i almost couldn't believe how much it reminded me of issues i'm currently sifting through. it's like i've been waking up after years of intrinsically fearing what would happen if i did, and thinking i was being good to myself by avoiding conflict for the sake of others. thanks for the reply.
donte j. I want to definitely meet her and talk to her, the way she articulated her thoughts her fears etc all of that really was spoken truth. She's very open honest and genuine and i love that
Shit....I wish I'd learned to be kind, not nice yearsss ago! I was the sweet, shy "nice" girl in school and was bullied relentlessly! I love to see smart beautiful women like this....it gives me hope!! 💪💪💪
You r very beautiful urself....Cheers
I don't think they would be good together in the long run. Both are sexually liberated and open, so that superficial aspect would run for a while. She is too intelligent, wise and self aware for him. He has many fake layers about him.
Thank you! My first thought about him was liar. And then he kept giving those vague answers. I was like girl, just get up and leave. Don't talk to him. I was not feeling him at all.
How was he being fake. That was as honest and as vulnerable as you could put yourself in. He directly said he is a cheater. Just sounds like you guys have a skepticism problem with these kind of guys
Talking bluntly and openly about sex, admitting he is a cheater, does not make one honest... Just a fact he is a cheater is a massive red flag. Some people give you their worst openly, so you think they will be honest with you always. It would be naïve to believe that.
what is cheater? not sticking to "the rules of a relationship"?? The rules set by who??
He is very clear about how he thinks. Clearly he would only want to be with a girl who is equally liberate about her ideas of a relationship.
Dont judge someone just because your ideas of a relationship are antiquated...
Until the day, every or most humans take a moral stand about cheating being acceptable in a relationship of 2, I am happy with my "antiquated" idea... And just by labeling it so, you passed a judgment on me.. haha
"be kind, not nice" love this !!
So do we!
Brokenness comes in so many forms 😢
Beauty Full AR , so you believe he is broke emotionally or financially?
He’s just broken. The fucked up part about that is guys know they homies ain’t shit and they never confront him or cut him off. When Men don’t feel like a Man they abuse women!!
I loved her point of view on things. Definitely a friend I was I had, for sure
A friend we all wish we had.
I LOVE this woman. she is such an amazing feminist. fuck yeah for sharing your views Sam. You rock girlfriend!
Julia Hawthornthwaite she is Jordan lmao
Great comment! Thanks for sharing! What about what she said stuck out to you the most?
This woman is the next big thing. HONEST. BLUNT AND STEADFAST. I absolutely love her, cause there are things I do not agree with but they she brought it, it was in the most understanding and intelligent way... I ended up seeing a good side of what I don't even agree with. Most of the time when people don't agree with something, it always comes from a place of ignorance or lack of understanding
And I love that she open my eyes to that
Yeah, she is great. Her ability to express herself that concise is pretty rare. I really would like to see more of her :)
Julia Hawthornthwaite lol Fuck feminism!
"Don't be nice, be kind." I love that!
That guy just showed us a typical case of cognitive dissonance (which happens when someone has two contradictory values, or if their values and their actions contradict each other) :P In this case, this guy's actions (cheating on his girlfriend) didn't fit with his idea/value of being a "nice guy" and not wanting to repeat with anyone what he had gone through before. To alleviate the discomfort associated with cognitive dissonance, he had two options: either change his behaviour to fit his values, or change his values to fit his behaviour. He chose to change his values in order to still see himself as a good person and therefore he doesn't see what he did back then as cheating anymore.
Yeah... I miss my psychology classes
You make me miss mine too. My 1st choice at university when I applied was psychology but there was no bursary for it and I didn't want a student loan. Got a bursary for teaching and was so glad to find psychology as a module in teaching. I enjoyed those classes very much and would love to continue with it. Just skeptical of struggling to find a job afterwards. I don't wanna study in vain no matter how much I love the course. I must get a better paying job from studying further. 😂
I couldn't stop laughing when you guys popped up "Subscribe to our Shit!" after he said subscribe SO many times 😂😂😂
I didn't see that lol... where was it??
Eon PaHRaye go to 3:00 and look at the top left keep watching till it pops up
Annelie lol thanks.. saw it 😂😂 I can't
Homegirl needs to run the other way
Quickly!! Run baby. God can heal his damage not you. Leave him at the Alter.
I am thinking Don't Do It! Because based of her responses, she sounds like his ex and unfortunately because he is attractive she is willing to 'kick it with him' likely because she feels he would not judge her job...he is into open relationships lol...and he did not strike me as someone that likes bw (that is not to be shady, I am a bw)...! He is poly...in denial
Girl, why would you waste your time and energy on someone who doesn't fit the criteria you're looking for? Remember what you said, if it's not authentic it'll be doomed from the beginning (paraphrasing). Both seem nice. But, nice doesn't always cut it. I've dealt, and in many ways am still dealing, with abandonment issues. Like her, I was also raised in a culture/home where I was taught to be a nice doormat. Consequently, in relationships I never spoke up which lead to silent resentment, like she said. When someone tell you who they are, believe them! Them telling you is a luxury, many don't. Her fear coupled with his polyamorous belief would be toxic to her soul. Though, I believe in a lot of his views, his views about his daughters being "sexually successful" and his views about "polyamory" are core beliefs that we don't share. He would make a good friend (he seems very nonjudgmental) but not a good boyfriend for me or her.
You've taken the words out of my mouth! I've enjoyed watching this ep and I found myself relating to a lot of what she said but the ending struck me a bit precisely for the reasons you've mentioned. After he opened up to her about his polyamorous beliefs I didn't expect her to admit that she would go on further dates with him - and this is not because those beliefs are in any way wrong but because they simply clash with hers. Even if it's just casual dating, I find the risk of her ending up hurt to be too high; whenever there's another person involved so are our feelings too and even if we don't plan on letting those feelings lead to attachment we ultimately don't have that much control over them.
I find her amount of self-awareness and honesty refreshing and it made me reflect on some of my own issues as well but I think that she would be subconsciously sabotaging herself by further pursuing him. Her mind is making her believe that he could be/is someone who he isn't. As you've said, when someone tell you who they are, believe them.
Alanassy Trust she's too smart to waste her time on him she's being polite and garnishing information at the same time. She knows EXACTLY what she's doing here.
Shane C You gotta admit, their chemistry was stated mutually. I think the real question is whether it was love or lust. Who's to say?
AmericanBoy1118 Chemistry is only part of the love equation, which I admit they do have. But, it's "compatibility" that will doom them before it starts. A lot of people underestimate compatibility and over compensate chemistry. If needs can not be met in a relationship, a negative net gain will occur over time, leaving him/her in an emotional deficit; and more-than-likely it will be her. He has told her what he has done to someone in the past. He never said he changed; he said he will just reveal his polyamory beliefs upfront, which means the things that he did, he's still going to do them. I don't think it's love or lust, on her part, I think it's more to do with a broken pathology. Coming from a broken home myself, children that become adults seek to correct things in their childhood through their relationships. We were wired to be co-dependence. We grow up seeking others approval and validation which might explain her working in the sex industry performing for men. Her broken psychology promotes the broken pathology. It's a hard cycle to break. Her need to be in a relationship seems to pull her to men who wouldn't be emotionally supportive and/or physically available. His belief in polyamory will have him spending time away from her and with someone else. When you are in recovery (and she seems like she is) you don't need to be around your kryptonite.
Shane C Good point. I just got that vibe from the last 30 seconds that they're going to take it "one step at a time..." to the bedroom. 😅 It's just that people say one thing and mean another sometimes, ya know?
I mean, he gave her a piece of his open honesty, warned her/voiced his "only concern." She even said that she doesn't "fully agree with it" even though she'll agree to "kick it" with him anyway. Red flag there? Maybe they'll screw, maybe they won't? Maybe they'll reach a dead end before anything happens? Maybe they won't? They can even just be cool peoples to each other. Not ruling that out. Guess we'll have to stay tuned. Lol
Man he is seriously broken, defensive as hell. I feel sad for him, he must have been hurt x
Robyn London exactly
At least he is honest about his bullshit. Women need to listen to guys - he is telling you who he is - full of it. When asked if she felt chemistry - I was so disappointed she said yes. I realized she didn't learn anything or listen to a word he said. Perfect example of how desperate women can be.
Amen.
I think he would be great in an open relationship. And not necessarily a relationship where you two can date anyone else, but one where there is very open dialogue and non-judgment is involved.
Shaz123 I agree. I think he would be very loyal in a relationship, more loyal that "monogamous" men. He's honest and he'd tell his significant other who he plans on sleeping with. That doesn't mean that a girl has to accept that, however. I suggest he date another women into the same thing.
A life of a dog
I think he is polyamorous but has only ever date monogamous people who consider polyamory cheating. I'm glad that he can now be honest about it from the get go and give the other person a chance to decide if that's something they'd be into before they're in too deep. I loved this blind date. I hope they can be friends.
Lonzzza he's insecure; I say this because not one time did he mention it would be okay for his partner to participate with other men or women.
andi eko that's also a possibility ey
andi eko in part one he said he wouldn't mind his partner doing her own thing as long as she was there emotionally
I loved this one! I love how honest she was. I feel as if at the end she kinda of did what most women do when we are attracted to a guy. Even though we know he isn't willing to offer what we want, we still think there is a chance for things to be good. I mean she clearly said she wasn't down for what he wanted and he clearly told her what he wanted . But she still was like "we'll see where it goes". He just told you what it would be like. I think that's a problem for most of us. We still have hope even tho it's pretty clear.
Very interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing!
When a person shows you who they is, believe them. Don't attach your reasoning to it. Simply believe the person.
Life & Dating Coach Oooh boy,too close to home
True
True
That's it, I'll never be nice anymore. She's so right, I was treated like a trash, I'll just be kind to be comfortable with myself, but never nice. Thank you girl!
We're so glad you took that from her and their conversation! Thank you for sharing.
She’s so right. I’ve spent many years being nice vs kind.. and being shit on because of it.
I'm not sure that I'd call this honest. Think she was honest and thorough with her answers. He, however, sounded as if he were spewing practiced answers that sound somewhat intelligent. Barely scratching the surface. I mean he said he enjoys sex when there's a deeper connection in part 1 but he's willing to jump in bed on a 1st date? Hmmm 🤔
Bola Obafemi He said maturation and sex with a woman are about the same to him pleasure wise. He prefers sex when there is a connection. However, he does not wish to put forth the effort. He still finds enjoyment in it.
Bola Obafemi he's not willing to open himself up for an exclusive relationship again
where is the lie? what is the truth?
Bola Obafemi some people dont go on a first date with someone unless they feel a connection anyways.
Bola Obafemi he is fake AF and I would never be able to talk to him
Don't to it girl , RUN! She's saying she'd kick it until her feelings get too deep. It's a trap!
He gave her that pre-relationship speech:" I like this, this, this, but not this". (Midway through the relationship/situationship): "I told you what my issues were, but you still stayed". The problem with people telling you what they're likes (issues) are, is that they have no intentions to change them, they only want you to be aware of them, while conveniently mentioning it's your fault for not heeding the warning when things go array.
He didn't even acknowledge what she wanted, which was monogamy. Even though she seems self-aware, you can tell she still has a I'm-nice-love-me-im-a-good-person vibe. I think it's bc she wants to change him with her "I'm a good woman" ways, AND bc he was giving her SOME honesty on his answers. Run girl, run.
Did anyone notice the "role reversal". As a dancer most people would expect her to be a sexual being whereas, he would be more calm. Their views on sex or both open yet different. She more "consevative" and he very big and indepedent. I loved this video.
I just realized this year that I've also been dating from a place of fear and I also have abandonment issues. Sucks but I'm working on it
We're glad that you discovered something through connecting with this video. Thank you for sharing.
Most do
In the end.... that was her being "nice" lol
You are right on point. She was nice when she should’ve been kind by saying, you’re not my type really.
The end was her "about to get some good dick"
this was one of my faves.. i love how open they were..
Candi R yeah! Not as shitty blind dates 😂😂😂
He seems jaded and bitter. I also feel that she wants to sound confident in her stance regarding relationships, but she's someone easily swayed and is seeking his approval. My conclusion comes from watching part 1 as well as part 2.
I loved this one but yea he'll totally break her heart, their views on relationships is different, so why say yes to a date and see where it goes when u don't agree with his relationship views, she's now approaching it with the I can change him aspect like most women do and it ends up all wrong...i may be wrong but that's my opinion
Jasmine tazz factzzz women never learn there lesson so the cycle repeats but they expect a different outcome ,
Jasmine tazz hahahah u aint lying.why do women think they can change a man?will never understand
Oh give me a break. You can't presume to know how she's approaching a simple date. She seems very perceptive and intelligent, I doubt she's going on ONE date thinking she is about to change him. She clearly knows what she wants and had a frank and candid conversation with him about their differences. She could just be going to have fun, and that's OK.
I'm pretty sure she knows that there could be nothing more than sex and they mutually want to just hook up.
Jasmine tazz I disagree. She seems like a very level headed woman. She'll know how to handle herself well.
"to be kind and not nice"
I'm going to take that with me.
This boy will ruin her life oh🙆🏾🙆🏾🙆🏾
yes oh!
Aishat Mohammed are you Nigerian ?
This Boy does not like the hair of this woman . She must to go there with her natural hair instead to went to the date with this animal faked hair
Right
Baby don't let Jordan fool you, she's mastered "being kind and agreeable" she's definitely not weak. She also knows men and exactly what they want to hear. She knows herself as well, so she definitely knows how to protect her heart.
This was one of the most interesting blind date videos, one that I was anticipating since the preview last year. I think she's a confident, articulate, intelligent and beautiful woman. She's comfortable with herself and doesn't try to be anything she's not. Definitely more emotionally mature than he is. I don't think he's as promiscuous as he's trying to portrait himself. He mentioned that he was hurt in previous relationships and I think that holds him back from opening up emotionally. He also mentioned that he enjoys sex more in a committed relationship so his open relationship concept doesn't seem to suit him, not his authentic self anyway. all that to say...DON'T DO IT GIRL! He's not ready and you deserve a man who's all yours! What he needs is some more alone time to figure himself out xx
I don't think he is fake, I think he is a deep person that has built himself around individualism and I believe that the more he accepts his individualism the better person he will become... but I want him to open up some more about who he really is to other people, because he does seem to hide and that creates a negative aura around him...
Why is he here if he doesn't want to invest time in a relationship ☹️
Shes so emotionally intelligent
"Be kind and not nice". I love it. Sam is right some people will take "nice" as being vulnerable.
We're glad that statement resonated with you! :)
" subscribe to our shit " 😂😂😂
Na. He does not deserve no damn cookie 😹
He apparently subscribed
He said "subscribe" so many times. So I subscribed to the channel
Unintended signal amplification, but we'll take it! :) www.theskindeep.com/subscribe
Sexually successful I'm going to steal that too haha :)
We're all going to steal that.
GraceKi92 he needs to copyright that 😆
Lord Amadeus HAHAHA! HE MAKES SENSE ACTUALLY! 😂😂
The opposite of sexually unsuccessful.
kamileishon lmao
She's everything I've ever wanted to be and she makes me want to better myself. Love strong established women with powerful minds😍. (I wonder if he learned anything)
Thank you for sharing! What about what she said resonated with you?
No... if he can be with a woman he defines as phenomenal for 7 years, watch her break down over his actions repeatedly, and then say his only regret is staying too long... he is incapable of emotionally connecting enough to value what it is she is actually saying or bringing to the table.
She’s a strong woman
He doesn't believe that what he did in his past relationship is considered cheating because of his sexual beliefs NOW? Well, it IS cheating because your {AND} at the time was not "subscribed" to your sexual agenda. He probably destroyed whatever bit of self esteem and trust she had left.
AngyInc oh yes. He’s left some victims in his days as a dater.
I had a love hate relationship with him throughout this whole video
Neekah Tijiri uhmm would you share the “love” part of said relationship
One minute he's calling it sexually successful, then he says whore... *insert Oprah's what is the truth gif*
this guy seems so inauthentic. painful to watch.
Zinc Well Seems the opposite to me, he's very blunt.
this was such an interesting encounter. one of those ones where you experience a person whos just not on the same way as you but you get to talking and you find those commonalities in thought and you decide well, why not give this a try? i think his transparency is a defense mechanism served from past hurt that she viewed as charming because a man being as blunt as he was is definitely refreshing. and him recognizing her intelligence and her being different from the dancer stereotype gave her more reason to see what he was about. i think they both mean well and he's definitely less fake than people in these comments seem to believe. the interaction initially was a bit of a shit show but i found myself smiling with them in the end because i could tell the energy was one of "I'm not used to this but i'll go there with you." and it was fucking refreshing
They would make the best of friends!
not if she doesnt agree with his lifestyle
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This girl speaks to my heart. I agree with her on so many things and I truly wished I had more friends like her. She is so wise and so intelligent. I could listen to her for hours! You can see how honest and true to herself she is. I'm litteraly in love with her personnality and her point of view on relationships. I also kind of find pieces of myself in her. I like her a lot, I feel like she's doing so well as a woman, or more generally, as a human being. She's so respectful of herself and of others, which I truly admire; we know it isn't an easy task in the society we're living in nowadays. Thank you, The Skin Deep for bringing such amazing people into light and allowing us to benefit from their wisdom and amazing state of mind.
I can personally relate to her as a woman.. she will bust his bubble majority of their time together and he will eventually become imitated by her intellect and honesty as well as her sense of stability. He's not a good person, for her to be fair; I read him before he even spoke and I perceive about him right to the core revolving their conversation.
He is so emotionally detached. They would be great friends but nothing more.
He seems like he's lying or not being completely open with vague answers
Bro, it's cool you've discovered that you can do what you want with out having any regret.
But don't walk over people because you can.
We've all had our hearts put through the mincer, but at least some of us who have survived that are still willing to give our respect towards others.
Move on from that space brother.....
Good post! I hope others see it.
Great episode. communication and openness is key.
We agree! What about their conversation spoke out to you the most?
their different thoughts/approaches to relationships. Him being someone who doesn't want boundaries and her wanting boundaries yet they still agreed to going on a date. Give love a chance!
Jennifer Wright and i think they could work it out ❤❤
Okay, this guy was full of ish when he told her that he was interested. I feel like he would like her as a friend with benefits bc clearly they have very little in common and he knows that. He knows that she finds him attractive and he wants to see how far he can go with her physically. However, he gave her full disclosure so she can't be upset when he shows his true colors.
I'd love to have a convo with these two, especially the lady. I think this is one of my favorite ones so far.
Thank you for sharing this blind date. It was insightful and beautiful. I wish Jordan and Sam the best of times.
Be kind. Yes yes yes!
This was a good one
I can relate to her. And I appreciate their communication and just listening to each other.
They are so adorable! I love how different they are but still have a connection
I don't like them for each other at all. Even just the silence and the look they give each other at 6:06 screams to me that they're on two completely different pages. She's looking at him like she can change him or as if she's trying to charm him, or even like a challenge (that I'm absolutely sure she'd lose), but he's not even there. He doesn't completely know himself, and I think she knows who she wants to be, but she isn't there yet.
Yeah that's exactly the vibe I got from it as well. You word it perfectly :)
Taylor Starkey i think they both know they aren't for each other but they know they want to fuck each other. Pretty common occurance.
I really, really, want to see more of this girl! One can sense her intelligence exuding without her meaning to.
She's very interesting.
We actually had her at our weekly Facebook + Instagram Live session and learned so much more about her! You can still check it out here: facebook.com/TheSkinDeep/videos/1862791353992146/
I love her and can relate to her on so many levels!
I can relate to both.
she didnt uphold her values in the end and i found her mickey mouse sweater and red nylons annoying.
She is right about not being nice. I learned that myself and it's the one thing I said to my lil cousin. My aunt didn't like me saying that though, but from experience I thought it was the best thing I could have told her. Nice gets you nowhere and people walk all over you. I've also learned to be more selfish, My selflessness in putting others before myself moved them on and kept me stagnant. Life will teach you a lot of harsh lessons and hard truths.
I learnt to be "kind and not nice" from a very early age, coming to think about it. 🤔 I just never knew this phrase. 😂 My "family"/relatives treated my immediate family (mom, dad and us kids) with so much contempt cz we were poor. They would expect us to attend their functions or visit them while looking down on us so that at their functions, we'd be more obligated to "help" AKA slave away the hardest cz in black South African families, functions mean people going there to cook and clean up, which is a loooooot of work as almost the whole village turns up to attend. So you basically cook for the village, using your relatives and whoever else wants to also help. It's extremely tiring. At the age of 12/13, I decided to NOT EVER be a part of any of that. My family is my mom, dad and siblings and we don't do any functions so it's not like we expect any help in that regard from anyone. The only time there'll be a gathering will be for a funeral cz that's inevitable. People will come and help cz my family does go and support their functions. I'm the only black sheep in the family. I refuse to be nice. Ah ah!
I truly enjoyed hearing your stories and getting to know you through this. As the minutes passed, preconceptions I felt about how I thought you are like vanished. What did it was your raw yet respectful genuine nature and I wish more people including myself could be like that - flaws and all.
"The eyes are the window to the soul". His eyes said "I'm not interested"....
naturalagn1 yes that’s the first thing I noticed at least not in a relationship but he wants to bang her at the ending
She wanna see what happens when he already told her what will happen. Dang it girl. God Bless y’all ❤️❤️😊
I'll propably tell my daughter that she need to know that not every guy is nice to you actually like you, that she need to love herself first to learn love somebody else.
The question should've been, "could you see yourself wifing up a girl who gives it up on a first date?"
And the question should've came before the whole I'm a pole dancer reveal.
and vice et versa
He doesn't seem like he's interested in a wife.
Good question to ask early in the interview.
His dimples are just amazing!
he thinks so too and has earned him plenty bed partners
Okay I love this woman so much. Honestly role model! She's amazing and deserves so much love and support. Also all this communication and sex positivity is amazing and refreshing
i feel like i would be good friends with this girl she knows whats up
W.O.W. Is it over already ?!?! No part 3 ? I love these two :) Good luck to them both and I thank them for their raw & soothing honesty. Peace.
When he said he didn't learn his lesson from cheating 😂😂😂😂😳🤔🤔🤔
Jordan needs a talk show. Her views are so good
For some reason I don't think they were being 100% genuine..and they definitely not on the same page.
That difference between nice and kind is so on point - and her laugh is too.
that guy is sooo handsome
Bianca Allen I have reservations about the looks... yeah he's good looking. BUT , how does he look without the hat!?!?... happened to me, nice looking dude,until that hat came off!!!!...
I can't lie.. I was like he is fine but I wonder what his hairline looks like Lol. You're absolutely right @M.R.
SuperDiamondGH 😂
im guessing he has receding hairline
If you are into man whores, yea.
I feel that this guy is very much your classic fuckboy one with the contradictory statements. But not in a bad sense just he seems like a guy that says what he thinks the partner or person he is with wants to hear. There isn't that same level of maturity she is much more assured and mature. I feel like he has a few types of relationships he needs to experience before he would be on the same level as her. I also don't think he was being as truthful either but that was more along the lines of saying what you think people want to hear. Particularly on the comments on cheating while it's great that he was honest about that sort of thing, he almost seemed proud of the fact. Just by the way his body language was when he talked about putting the girl through the wars. He seems very closed off and doesn't have his own depth of character, looks like he is still finding out how to be comfortable in himself. He isn't looking for a commitment and without knowing more you could assume that when he does commit he would be the type of person not to really commit ( i.e cheating while married). It was interesting to see these quite polar opposites in many respects talking and to see how it plays out.
lol the fact that you wrote so much tells that you would hit it
I didn't want this to end. New favorite!
Neither did we. :)
The Skin Deep whats both their social media?
They don't share the same values so it was disappointing the she agreed to go out with him. Why do we women do this? We step over our boundaries then wonder later why it didn't work out? Clearly there is chemistry and that is confusing the situation. "Take it one step at a time and see how it works out". Huh? He told you. But you're thinking that perhaps you'll be the one to change him? Girl, go kick it with him and then run in the other direction. Until you start to respect your own boundaries you won't find someone who will respect you. Peace!
So true. I think she gave him a pass because he's cute and (here, I may be projecting), it makes people feel beautiful to know that someone cute has taken an interest in them, especially when that person is better looking than them (I hate to say the last part, but I think it factors into the decision. It's like an immediate confidence booster.
You're right! She seems confident on the surface but underneath she not holding herself to a high standard. He's cute... yup, I'll kick it with you. Been there done that and learned... we're all on our path. #nojudgement
joleedeeva I think you nailed it. She *seems* confident, but maybe she really isn't.
I truly, truly appreciate his honesty! He will save a lot of women from heartache vs the men that lie and pretend.
This was a good one
I just want to say I love you "The skin deep". I think you are providing a national service with these videos
favorite blind date!!
aww, the fade to the end screen with them smiling at eachother longingly really got me. I really hope tou guys do a follow up video. I want to see if they ended up going out on a date or not.
I'm sick, she wants to go on a date with this dude. She's bright, recognizes the GLARING red flag to her - in ideology AND practice, so what's this "see where it goes" bs???! I want to hope she played along for this series and really won't follow through on the date but her eyes and the comments on here tell me she probably finds him attractive, like you all do. Why do women silence red flags like this?? "He sounds full of it and is likely an unapologetic cheat but, eh, a date can't hurt." Ladies... PLEASE! YES IT CAN and it WILL. Sigh. PS Love the lip glass/shine on her, and thought I could will her into licking her teeth from here, lol. I'm always paranoid when I wear reds - I lick across my teeth every few mins of talking.
Good post. Methinks that she is swayed by his looks. He's definitely cute, and sometimes good looks will make you ignore red flags.
Trillvia Plath Will her into licking her teeth! 🤣🤣🤣