Microsoft Surface Duo 2 Review
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2021
- The Surface Duo 2 has been upgraded in just about every way compared to the original. But is that enough to make Microsoft's $1,500 phone worth recommending?
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Nice review. You are speaking too slow. It feels like listening to a synthetic voice. but on a positive note, it is very soothing
R u gift me this mobile bcoz i cant afford and not in my country i m from Pakistan
@@HamzaJani.88 well, someone is least bothered about pride of theIr nation
@@arnold_m_xavier i cant under stand... And Microsoft surface duo is my dream but Microsoft is not launch in Pakistan and India too but if i buy this another way then this is to expensive for me..
@@arnold_m_xavier if i buy this then its come to me in around 3.5 lac
Outside of Software/app issues. Seems like some reviewers stubbornly want it to be exactly like the fold when it was never meant to be that
This thing is much more appealing to me than a fold. Two screens is cool. One screen that I can witness the disintegration of is not.
The fold is a joke with that crease..people just love to hate on Microsoft any chance they get.
I love my Duo. I choose not to go the fold route because it's more prone to scratching the screen. I've seen reviews complaining that if you want to put the device inside out down then you could scratch the screen but clearly they've not been using gorilla glass. If you scratch the screen you were doing something stupid. The only thing I want to know is if the Duo 2 finally made the usb charge port more durable.
Nailed it
@@surface_glow2520 if you span the apps across the phone you'll notice a huge crease as well.
I own both the Z Fold 3 and the OG Surface Duo. Each device has its unique use case. The Z Fold 3 is a media power house that offers split screen multitasking. The Duo is a multitasking beast perfect for mobile professionals that require a workflow that calls for constantly needing access to multiple applications. I constantly keep outlook running on my left screen for work related emails. And so everything else on the right screen. On the Z Fold 3 this is not easily accomplished or very satisfying. Once I click to open another app, it’s going to completely take over the entire screen and then I must split screen the new app with one running in the background. Then both apps running have a severe narrow aspect to them. On the duo I get both apps in full aspect ration.
You know you can create app pair shortcuts with z fold right?
Lol
@@joez833 exactly and up to three apps
I think people use it incorrectly. Tablet mode works great when screens are in landscape. And the dual screens are more for running two apps opposed to spanning.
Exactly my thoughts. In my opinion, Microsoft should've restricted full screen span to landscape mode. Doesn't make any sense to use it in potrait.
@@anirudhpuranik5222 I don’t understand why reviewers don’t understand this… it is not a smartphone in the traditional sense, it is something greater and something different. ,I hope people ignore some this bad reviews and they give it a chance. I know 4 me, It was a hard choice for me to pass on it, but when I saw the Pixel 6 pro price it eliminated the Duo as an option, but it is a great looking product with use case that FAR exceed traditional bar phones.
@@dnevs79 They're already in the second gen of the duo, and there's still a lot of things left half baked, it really hurts to see that Microsoft is wasting the Duo's potential. I really like the form factor. There's a lot of things Microsoft needs to polish on software side. It seems they have concentrated on polishing the hardware to literal shine, but forgot about the software. This is absolutely ridiculous for a $1500 device. How can they not nail even some simple stuff even in 2nd iteration, it truly baffles me.
@@anirudhpuranik5222 yeah, I Was hoping for perfection with the second gen. They Really need to work with Google to fix the software
I don't really get this kind of reviews. It s a dual screen setup, it may be nice if a particular app adapts to be expand acrross the screens but is not the main goal, if you are looking to use your apps like that it goes against the most useful feature for this device, which is be able to multitask, if you use one app open across both screen, just one app you'll be better suit with a big screen phone/tablet or whatever. But multitasking just like a dual setup at your office/home, like pluging a second monitor to your laptop is such a nice thing to have if you workflow needs that, but also I think is this sort of thing you didn't know how much you need it until you get used to.
Yep. But I bet when Apple copy this form factor, it will revolutionize multi-tasking! CNet are iSheep.
i know!..i am really curious what makes them so called expert reviewers without even understanding the usability of any device
I watched this on my OG Surface Duo while tweeting on the second screen. Good review
i don't just get. If an app doesn't seem to be optimized with the duo, then rotate it such that the crease is horizontal.
There are so many people hating on the Duo because it's specifically a niche device. In my opinion more people should look at it like that. Most of the main gripes have been addressed in one way or another, and now some folk nag about a camera bump. Can't please everybody unfortunately. I'm not saying it's perfect or anything but personally I can appreciate the innovation.
The Duo 2 at $1500 should come with earbuds and a smart watch. That in itself would make the device extremely useable, even when closed.
It comes with earbuds outside of the US
Just open it.
Maybe worth a punt at 500 dollars next year
@@harrytrueman4216 I hope not but I'm the type of guy who bought the first Duo for $500 and I absolutely love it... Using 2 app at a time is a experience like on no other phone.
I prefer it came with a Kitchen sink.
The surface duo is a productivity machine that takes multitasking to the next level. Only a person who value this feature will get it. Issues are mostly software related and am sure upcoming updates will fix them all. Am tempted to get it. It's different
did you get it? how was it?
I just received mine in the mail earlier today...So far it is the best phone I have ever used...My first dual screen phone and so far I love it...I don't see any of the "buggieness" that these folks are reporting...This phone isn't meant to be a tablet but to use as a dual screen device...It is way too early to give a review but so far this phone is snappy and the screen is beautiful...
How is it now after 2 years ? Any updates any improvement ? I kinda want one
@@illmetbymoonlight3318 It's really stable and the only phone of it's kind to be honest...I still use it and love it...
I don't see why you'd really want to span G Maps across two screens though. My hope is to have Maps on the left screen, then like Spotify or Firefox open on the other screen.
You can very easily do that
She doesn't understand how to use two separate apps,for one goal
That's already possible even on older phones (Note series for example) .. Ie. watch Netflix and have Google Maps in split screen or a small pop up floating window, very useful and ingenious.
It's not the same. Surface Duo does it better and right out the box.
Yeah seems like most reviewers are missing that point. Just like how some people love a dual monitor setup for their PC, this is a dual screen setup for Android. That means just doing more at once without small windowed apps thanks to two separate screens. That's the main appeal of this in my mind
I have the Duo 1 and I love it, it is future tech. All they need to do is fine tune the software and it will rock. No question, the most productive phone I have ever had, ever. And this is from a long time Sammy Note user. Getting the D2 today because I know what the experience is like......very productive and feeds you the content.
It will be dead in next 2 years and nobody will even remember that it existed
Sorry they ripped you off with $1500. It will be less than $600 in the next few months, when Microsoft will eventually pull the plug
I agree although I'm going to wait only cause I'm cheap and loving my Duo 1. The fact I can run 2 apps easily side by side is fantastic and the real purpose of the device.
@@9823625313 I think so too. But gonna rebrand it to Surface Phone and ditch android for Windows 11.
@@axlotle no they will just call it abandoned and pretend they never made it, just like the myriad other things microsoft has abandoned lol (mixer, silverlight, windows phone, zune, band, groove, kin, etc. etc. etc.)
Watching this while waiting for my Surface Duo 2 to arrive in the mail 😁 Ngl I haven’t been this excited for a new phone in a while
This is the perfect replacement for my dead v50.
Dual screens are far better than a folding screen
I’d rather get literally any normal phone than this.
@mireaze I wholeheartedly agree.
I am currently rocking the LG v60 and I feel like dual screens are going to be a permanent state in my life because of how much you can get done and also the versatility
@@impendio Then get a normal phone....
Thank you for a really good review on this product, very informative and detailed. 👍
Microsoft: They laughed at Apple when they announced the original IPhone.
Because it was totally laughable. It was a toy that didn't catch up to Microsoft handheld PC phones until more than 3 years later,
_500 dollars? Fully subsidized?_
With no keyboard...
@@machtschnell7452 windows mobile was already outdated garbage even before iphone came out, which is why windows mobile was modified so heavily by some smartphone oems to the point you could not recognize it. classic lazy microsoft. when android came out it was a hail mary for all the smartphone manufacturers so they could compete with iphone.
Seems most folks miss the point of DUO(2 screens, not a tablet - spanning 1 app across both screens is not the intention though it IS supported for some productivity apps like various email services) - including most of the reviews today;
It is a productivity device. I get that it is not for most people but review it based on its intended purpose.
Apps that span and make use of both screens are nice, but they're not the main reason to use a Duo. Having 2 apps open side by side, with the ability to drag and do between them, is a productivity game changer.
Multitasking is fantastic on the LG V60 dual screen and should be just as good on the Surface Duo. The Surface Duo was never meant to replace a tablet. It's great for doing multiple things at once. Stuff like banking on one screen and a calculator on the other. Instagram on one, RUclips on the other. Calendar and messaging. Music and Nike Run Club app, etc.
I know that this is a Duo 2 review, but that cassette ring is 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can't use the Surface Duo as a tablet because it's not a tablet. Is this really to hard to figure out?
Good first look. Fair and balanced.
Microsoft soft Surface Duo 2 is said to be strange for photos; however, they said that about the iPad.
Was thinking I could use the second screen as keyboard while typing? Does it work that way?
0:49 they could've at least wiped the back of the phone before filming it
I thought the same thing
LG tried the dual screen concept in a slightly different way by using a case with a second screen. All I see with the MS Surface Duo is a refined version of that concept without the ability to pop the phone out the case to have a single screen device. LG's poor marketing let it down and they have now left the mobile market. Reviews like this keep focusing on the fact that there are two separate screens that will never be as good as a single, large screen when trying to use an app across both screens. What they don't emphasise enough is the multi-tasking ability of the dual screen concept. The ability to have a RUclips video playing while scrolling webpages is the thing I am going miss the most when I one day replace my LG V60 with something newer. I will not replace the LG with a Surface Duo because it's literally twice the price of what the LG V60 cost when new. I also what something I can slip into my pocket when leaving home. Without the dual screen case that's accomplished with the LG V60 but not so easy when in the case. I just see the Surface Duo not appealing to many people which is a pity because multi-tasking with two screens is great.
LG V60 with dual screen was way better than MS Duo. Unfortunately, V60 doesn't have dual SIM support and that's the only thing that stopped me from buying it :(
Just wondering as several months have gone by, if anyone who currently has the Surface Duo 2 would like to share their overall user experience and how it is now? I heard that after a bunch of software updates that the device is running better and it's not as buggy as it was at launch. I am really interested in this as being my backup phone(I currently have a Fold 3 as my main device) and love new technology as I am kind of bored with traditional slab phones. Also the Duo 2 has fallen to about $900-$1000 on EBay so I am getting very tempted to get it. 📱📱🤳🤳❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Interesting review. Clearly the Duo 2 is a big improvement over the first model. It seems the reviewer is saying that not enough apps take advantage of the two screen design. Assume for a moment that a lot more apps use the two screen design effectively, is the hardware implementation deficient? It doesn't seem like it. Not mentioned is that Duo 2 can use the surface pen (nice) The camera tests are only preliminary. Some objective tests would be more useful and the reviewer indicated that these are yet to be done. More 2 screen apps and a lower price might be widen the appeal of the Duo.
Here is what I want from Surface Duo 2:
-Vertical orientation. Application on top screen, input on bottom screen.
-Easy switching between applications on top screen - onenote, joplin, remote desktop, SSH, sms messaging, discord, etc.
-Easy switching between input methods on the bottom screen - swipe keyboard, full tap keyboard (for ssh), handwriting input, and mouse-emulation touchpad (mainly for rdp).
-A good handwriting interpreter to text input, so I can handwrite messages for sms/discord/etc. So far I haven't been able to find this demonstrated.
Everything else I'd want I've seen demonstrated, and it all looks really impressive, except this use case. Can anyone tell me if it can operate like this? In particular, does it even *have* handwriting interpretation input?
Does it support the surface pen?? I am interested to use it as a large notebook 📓. Psychology student here ✌😁
Yes it does
Thinking about the manner in which people use dual monitors on their desktops, it appears the reviewer has completely missed this type of usage. Context switching is of course easier with two displays. Software that allows toolbars and app windows to be detached and moved to the 2nd screen provides additionally flexibility and customisation. The Duo 2 provides an opportunity for software developers to take advantage of “2 screens” in a mobile device.
Gorgeous!!!!
Reviews are still depicting this as a primary phone device; this is not a fair approach. The SD2, like the original, is a productivity device (like an apple ipad) that also has the ability to make a call. Keep in mind that this is a new product space and many do not appreciate the gap that it is filling. I also have a surface pro notebook with LTE, but you do not see it being call a phone. Maybe PDA is a better word choice.
How’s that supposed to be PRODUCTIVE?
Is there any task/app which’s been optimized for this!
A lot of apps are optimized! Ppl just don't get it
is there a websit that tells you what apps are compatible with duo phones (microsoft/android)?
It's a multitasking device so just put the websit apps on one screen and something else on the other.
If you have the device in landscape mode, can you open the same app on each individual screen? Two screens of the same app?
Apps that are optimized for it utilize both screens well BUT this phone is not meant for that. It's meant for 2 apps on 2 screens.
@@mxbblife_mu so could you open the same app on both screens? For example, the trading app “Webull”. I would like to have the same app opened twice if that makes sense.
@@nickh2053 No not 2 of the same app... But if you find a Trading app optimized for Duo it can work like 2 apps.
thanks 🙏🏼
Needs to be way cheaper than the Galaxy Folds for it to be worth it.
Does have this nfc this time?
Yes
What's the OS on this?
addition of small display at front to take picture and notification would be better. camera with vivid mode as iphone
It's meant to be a Mini laptop more than a phone... And no laptops have screens on the front.
How did you not mention multitasking? You just focused on spanning apps across both screens when that's not even the point of having two screens.
My wife and I use our smart watches as our basic phones so this essentially pocket windows pc is a great upgrade
Id like a version without the stupid cameras
Honestly it is better if microsoft makes their own alteration of the os like the old android. Or makes new os phone
I like Android on my Duo but I found that Microsoft launcher sucks and it's best to use a different launcher.
I'd buy it if it weren't for the camera bump, the thing I loved about the original is that you could use it as a normal phone by folding it back on itself.
Yes I don't care about camera.
With all its faults the Surface Duo 1 is fantastic and expect much more from the Surface Duo 2. Once you go to two screens you don't want to go back to one. I do wish the apps were optimized for the two screens. It is not cumbersome. Some at CNET seem to want to go out of their way to bad mouth this phone. Yes, it isn't perfect but be fair and give it a chance. This particular review is decent but is reviewing based on expectations and not real world experiences.
Is it rain or water resistant?
Make it waterproof and it will be a serious phone. I'll get one definitely.
2 years later and still in love
a far better review that MKHBD. Construction criticism are welcome. but bashing the device for everything it stands for? really now MKHBD?
Never really liked his content
Great product, love it.
Nice video 👌
Love the concept, but I can't even begin to imagine carrying such a huge daily phone.
It should’ve stayed a concept tbh…
I use the duo as a daily driver and carrying it is a none issue.
@@tebhernandez You must have huge pockets? Or do you carry in a bag? Also curious, is it comfortable as a phone, or do you generally use speaker or ear buds?
god, i need this, without neededing worry about crease
I think it's be more cool if it had windows rather than android
Needs a screen on the outside and then a dual or bi option on the inside
I think this is sooo cool but I honestly don't know what I would do with 2 screens. I cant ever think of a time where I'm doing something on my phone and thought "oh this would be faster/easier if i had 2 screens" Again really cool phone but afraid its gonna be one of those things its really cool to see other people use but you don't really want.
Props for the effort that microsoft makes.
It's just $275 on Amazon
Definitely worth that price
0:44 "Microsoft is attempting to resolve issues..." and there we have a buggy software glitch just like the first one on the left screen. lmao. Good job Microsoft.
Microsoft fanboys - That's not a bug. That's the new...um... thing. It is awesome.
I really like the idea of a dual-screen phone like this. People are natural multi-taskers and this phone makes that easy to do. It's just much more versatile than a single-screen phone.
I got a fold 3. It'll be painful if i switch to duo2. That huge gap in the middle is gonna be unbearable. Dual screen would be really useful if the most apps were optimized.
You are not supposed to use it likethe Fold 3.... It's not meant to use 1 app on both screens it's meant to use 2 different apps on 2 screens. If people understand the point of the phone then people will understand the use cases for it.
@@mxbblife_mu guess what? you can use two or three apps at the same time on the fold 3. if anything the fold 3 is the better productivity device.
@@mxbblife_mu but aren't they trying to use this like a tablet? Look at the webpages and some apps being viewed like a tablet. That gap is unbearable. Side by side apps are fine. You can do almost anything with fold 3. No hideous gap
@@wanabe014 it's the tiny front screen that I can't stand about the Fold 3. Side-by-side apps is what the phone is made for not watching things across both screens . And you get way bigger screens with the Surface Duo 2.
The original duo was a perfect size It just needed a bigger screen.
It's clearly not a phone, it's a book.
This thing still exists??
Somehow, just wait until it drops 1000 bux again in less than a year, and at that point it’d be worth it just as an SD 888 phone lmao.
All we really wanted was for it to run a full version of Win 10 ....
It was very good device to advance microsoft in smartphones field but it's price was its biggest weakness
While I appreciate your review of the Microsoft Surface Duo, I have to disagree with your focus on the selfie camera and gaming capabilities. The Surface Duo is a powerful device designed for productivity and multi-tasking, with the ability to handle online banking, money transfers, and other business-related tasks with ease. It's disappointing to see such a narrow-minded approach to the device's capabilities, as it ignores the true potential of this innovative hardware. I urge you to reconsider your review approach and explore the full range of features that the Surface Duo has to offer.
We must realize that the candy bar style phone is outdated and this form factor is made for a certain type of person. Judge this phone based on the candy bar design is not fair
Hilarious... This phone is 10 times better Now than it used to be when it first came out... if you can find one I'd say buy it immediately.....even the Surface Duo 1... Works 10 times better now than it did when it first came out and all the reviewers were trashing them.
why you say that
@@templarking6819 why you Think I said that.... Because I love the Phone.
This review video shows something very unique... Dual screens of cell phones! A bit interesting to say the least.
DAMN , WHAT A NICE 3DS
Honestly Microsoft rushed too much with this upgrade, camera seems like an afterthought. Camera bump and being unable to fold it fully. I want it to succeed, Microsoft needs to work on this and not rush to make people happy but focus on building a solid unique device.
How much
when will microsoft knows, camera doesn't matter to your duo clients, making big cameras and makes it impossible to fold or even put it on a flat place is destroying the phone itself
Smail/no bezels and a small outer display for notification is all it needs... so close Microsoft
you missed on this review by talking about Spanning app across screens. you did not cover a main use, Multitasking seperate apps on the two screens. That is the biggest use case of the Two Screens.
This is a lot lighter than the Galaxy fold 3 disaster, the cameras are a lot better than the horrible z-fold 3 cameras, the battery life is a lot better than the Galaxy fold, I think this is a much better choice if you are after a to screen foldable phone 👍
Fold disaster are you really that daft . Have you any idea how many they have sold? You really have no clue what you're talking about.
Can you watch Netflix on one screen and on Facebook on the other at the same time?
Great! Productivity device reviewed as phone! Nice review.
Microsoft may have made some improvements to the Surface Duo 2 but not good enough. This phone is still a hot mess for 1,500
Lisa, your confusion about why two screen are better than one sounds bizarre, like someone who would sit all day in front of a single monitor and not realize they would be more productive and enjoy their work more on two monitors. May you and the gang at CNET need to stick to the boring slab phone reviews. These are good for people who can only do one thing at a time.
I disagree. You don't understand that the reason for having two discrete screens is to run two apps concurrently. The fact that you can span apps is a bonus... If you think more apps need to be able to use span mode, you fundamentally don't understand this device.
I would drop this thing 3 times a day carrying it around.
I don't get the hate. It's a great device, I'm waiting for a price drop and I'm getting it. 😉
So you have had the Duo for how long exactly? A day a week or hopefully over a month! Yeah more like a day...maybe two 🙄
I have the z fold 3 and i will never go back to a regular phone again.
So it's called a phone but does it actually have a phone? I have yet to see any review in which a phone function is used. .
😀 😃 🙂 👍
Annoying when reviewers span apps and complain about the hinge! It's not meant to be used that way...
Am i the only person out there who understands that like 90% of current phones are just as large as the folded duo 2 form factor? Like seriously i know one person who has a small phone and he is thinking to upgrade to a larger one.
Que the "Its a new DS" trolls...
Give me a phone with just one of those screens. A phone with a screen that is 3.5 inches wide would do far more for my productivity and convenience than a duo or Zfold. All the standard phones top out at less than 3 inches wide. The old Nexus 6 phone was 3.25 inches wide and I loved it for that
Like iphone and Google pixel phone, I can't afford this one too, I like it though. Why watch the vid?
It is called setting a goal for the future. I get what I want.
Why is there no mention of windows office word excel and other Microsoft programs...games and pictures isn't my life for business!?
Another person that completely doesn't get two screens set up. I do not require apps designed for two screens at all. I use two separate screens for two separate apps. I have maps on one side and my cycling app on other, watch RUclips on left while chat on right, have my ebay on one and amazon on two and compare prices. That's power of it. If you want one, big screen, buy a tablet
got first generation very reliable love it pros and cons on operating 11 sadly but cheap to buy boxed like brand new second hand cex unlike surface duo 2 shockly not cheap if y can find one not easy here in Britain sadly much underrated 😢.
It would be better if they just made this into a tablet and not a phone.