Sometimes You Have To Botch It To Fix It! Is This a Good Repair or Bodge Job?
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- I have a HP Mini PC here that does not power up. The owner worked out this means it must have a faulty power switch, let's see...
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Richard
The customer will be happy it works, they probably will say don't bother with the new switch its fine as is :) great fix
customer might buy a solder iron and replace the switch himself if he watches this video 🤣 i would be happy with the bodge it's not a center piece fancy gaming pc it's small so it's out the way
The customer is very happy. His wife uses this for her work and she needed it running. He says if I can find the correct switch then do it but if I can't he's quite happy as it is as long as it is reliable which so far it is.
The customer decides about the repair and costs.
Goal achieved. 👍👍🤷♂️
I have seen a few switches with the same issue, but have had the luxury of a replacement systemboard, or whole unit. The switches don't like hard pushes and start to fail, which results in harder pressure and breaking the switch and or case. Sorry cannot help with a part no. I would also mention that with similar plastic case fronts, is to check that the face plate button is operating the switch. A loose cover can appear to be a no-boot when in fact a broken plastic faceplate or button is the issue.
The 'Bodge' job is called a workaround when talking to the customer😜 I discus it with them first.
Richard, this is not a "bodge" repair it's a "temporary" repair to get it working quickly for the customer. There is absolutely nothing unsafe about this repair and you should definitely charge the customer. The fact that you intend to provide the customer with a quote for a permanent repair highlights to the customer that it's not your usual standard of workmanship. 👍
Ditto!
That's ok but the dirty fan is what makes me choke, thanks for sharing
Nothing wrong with doing a repair like you have done. It’s only a problem if you tell the customer that you have done a proper repair. The fact that they need it to work and you have got it working means that they are happy and it gives you time to find the correct replacement part for it
I am thinking that a short stem tactile switch would have fitted where the original switch was, but yes, a good fix and probably a happy customer. Well done sir.
Maybe you could have used a magnet glued into the button and behind it a reed switch? I worked as a PC designer and system builder and we supplied PCs to UK schools. One of the tests we did was to apply excessive force to all switches and buttons to make sure the kids couldn't break them.
The switch is attached to the housing - that’s a luxury botch job!
Bodge job gone right, great fix, it's all about making it going.
I've done similar fixes.
I'm reminded of a switch I bought as a kid in the early 60's at an old hardware store.
It was my love of old scary movies that influenced my purchase of an old single blade version of a knife switch on a white ceramic base. The kind always used to send the volts to Frankenstein but on a smaller scale.
I actually still have that switch! It would have looked great mounted to the outside of your computer to go with the Frankenstein repair!
I did a similar repair in the past. It needed a button at 90 degrees so I used a replacement shoulder button for an xbox360 controller. Basically it's a common 6mm x 6mm momentary push button with a 90 degree mounting. They are through-hole so I bent the pins out and surface mounted it and it worked very well. I added some epoxy resin glue to make it rock solid.
Yeah I've done something similar i had a customer that had a laptop with a broken power button, but couldn't find any replacement was a weird slide power button on the side of it so i drilled a hole on the palmrest area, soldered a button on a small protoboard and hot glued it in and just ran the wire as you did as he just wanted to be able to use it and it was a pretty old laptop so i don't see the problem with the button if it works it works! haven't heard from him since that lol
and of course i asked the customer before if it was okay to drill a hole to fix it, seemed like he was just gonna throw it away if it wasn't fixed
Edit: that might be a "TL3340" switch looks really similar to it!
The jobs fixed, the item works and they can use it.
If I was the customer, I'd be over the moon that you came up with a temporary solution, without damaging the item, allowing the item to be used, whilst waiting for the repair.
This is the difference with your thinking. A normal repair shop would just stick in on the shelf, and then onto another job, whilst the part arrives, if it ever does!
Great job! As usual!
I shot milk out my nose laughing at "hot snot glue"
RS and Mouser have a good supply of right angled PCB switches but well done for getting it together 😀👍
I have vertical mounting push switches, like you often find in various electronics but the one in the PC is tiny in comparison to the type I have www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006058692808.html
Good fix Richard.
thats a job that Sorin would be proud of.
nothing wrong with a bodge if it is safe and works.
This is how 95% of my permanent repairs look. That customer must have known it was the switch because he knew he was the one who tried to turn it on with a screwdriver and a hammer.
I limit bodegery to equipment life or death situations or as temporary repairs (usually to find out what else is broken before putting together a parts list). You got it up and running so certainly charge the customer. But I would do a little research, price a replacement part and let the customer decide - that's their job. Thank you for another interesting video! Regards, David
Perfect fix!
This repair is even more dodgy than Sorin's ! Haha what inspiration all amounts too in the end ? Cheers Richard....
No button, no broken button!
I take a glass of water from the ocean and it has no fish in it, therefore there are no fish in the sea. Quick fix to get out of bother, perfectly acceptable unless you tuck it all inside and don't tell the customer Lol ! and yeah a bodge....cheers.
Great content as usual... Thank you.
That is what I would do and wouln't have any qualms in charging them for the fix. It is a safe repair that you did not circumvent anything. That repair will lprobably last for a long time if they do not decide to proceed with getting a replacement for the original switch.
If its still supported by the manufacturer you should be able to get a button from them.
😂 if that was the case, then all we'd need in our spare parts drawers would be 100's of buttons.
Just remember, The customer is always right!
i think you did a good job on that
Heya, as the costomer needs it back working this is the best you can do for now without the original switch. yes ofcores you charge the costumer it works that's what they wantted oke if you can get the original putton and the custumer want that you can order it
I like fixing these tactile switches lol i believe this one was pressed so hard because it wasn't making a good contact i don't blame them for that, nice fix as long as it's working
The main issue with this tactile switch Is oxidation of the dome. Often it Is silver plated...and so It Is prone to fail. Regards.
@@paolomonai9511 @paolomonai9511 Yes indeed! i carefully scrap the rusted surface on the contact dome so it won't fly away and on the contact terminals as well and i lubricate them afterwards i did this many times it works perfect
Hey Rich, You can play guitar with that nails 😂
Question: would you clean the internals of a PC when opened? Far from the worst I have seen, but that one was quite manky.
That fan and the crap in the housing was making my OCD itch, big style.
thats not what the customer wants, if he wants it, then there is additional cost of that
Only if its a paid service. Also don’t clean the outside if it’s dirty unless this is covered in the repair quote. I’ve had a customer tell me I scratched their laptop because I cleaned it up for them. It was covered in crud and the crud / dirt was covering all the scratches up. Once cleaned you could see some of scratches all over. The customer ruined the outside and tried to convince me to buy him a new top case cover for his laptop because there “no scratches” before… 😂 He didn’t take care of his laptop clearly yet said it was like brand new when brought it in. I didn’t replace it and told him he can take any other devices to a different shop for future repairs. Time is money and I don’t have the time to be arguing with people like that.
A fix is a fix especially when the item is not of great value. Otherwise it would be cheaper to buy another one the same and put her harddrive in it. This is where people like you shine as a dealer would not touch it. Reuse, reduce and recycle.only when they can make money from it.
Oh stop it. That is professional compared to the $0.01 standard pushbutton I would glue on it to fix it 😄
I think, it is a good bodge job. :)
It is the switch.
good effort
...well, any repair you can walk away from is a good repair. Isn't that how the saying goes?
I would called the customer discussed the repair .and mounted the switch on the back
It's an improvised modification to restore functionality
I can't tell you how many times we used to get TV's into the shop with the customers saying it doesn't turn on when i push the button i think the switch is broken which it generally didn't..
It's a very tidy bodge.
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Time is money.
They will probably be happy with the fix, so charge them, they could not do it and they can now use it.
If they have money to burn and don't mind the wait they may ask for a proper switch be installed.
They will probably understand you cant get all parts off the shelf, Devices that small usually have parts designed just for that particular device.
Hi Richard, nice Job. Isn't it possible to set the BIOS so that the mini PC starts up after mouseclick
Detlef mentioned this in the video, setting the BIOS to start the PC on key press. But he says this only works reliably on wired keyboards
I must have missed that, but after looking back, he said it indeed. Still very educational. Thanks
what ever works .... but yeah for the time beeing the best solution
My kind of fix lol
Mine also hahaha
Customer was right this time, but two days ago I got a PBC with some cables going out of it and the customer told that he need one of those cabes changed because its a bit bend (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Of course it was a fried transistor.
By the looks of that system it been well used so i would be discussing replacement. Next, remind the customer that Microsoft is depreciating windows 10 in November 24. Tell the customer that due to its age hp no longer makes the part
Then I would permanently mount that button in the side and charge the customer and not think twice about it. Great video as usual.
its a good repair was not working now it is all good
Do you have an exact model for the PC?
HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Desktop Mini Business PC (65 W)
Bodge.
Hi Richard. I have done a fair share of repairs. where the customer was happy for me to do anything to make the device working, including modyfying (wouldn't call it botching) it. I personally would try to hide the switch inside, but most likely, in your situation, the switch you used wouldn't fit. Maybe some smaller switch, if I had it, but overall, the final result achieved :). Regards, Jerry from Australia.
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I would called the customer discussed the repair .and mounted the switch on the back
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