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2023 Toyota Veloz Malaysian review - RM95k, worth it over Alza?
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- The 2023 Toyota Veloz is a massive improvement over the old Avanza, but now it's also a full RM20k more expensive than the Perodua Alza. Is it worth the price? Watch our full review here.
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00:00 Introduction
00:55 Alza sibling
01:03 Pricing
01:31 Badge engineering
02:09 Alza replacement
02:52 DNGA platform
03:22 Exterior
07:45 Interior
11:43 Second row
13:26 Third row
14:13 Boot space
14:36 Driving impressions
15:04 Powertrain
19:59 Ride & handling
25:06 Safety
25:55 Closing thoughts
I think this is the first reviewer who highlights the two tone colour issue. Well done, Hafriz.
Better save the RM1300 for premium branded tint.
that day i saw a Veloz parked next to a Alza in a shopping mall, i must say Veloz looks way nicer and more towards SUV look, and also Veloz looks bigger size maybe of the height. 95K for Toyota 7 seater with such a spec is worth, i remember years ago my friend bought the Toyota Sienta at about rm100k, i would say this Veloz at 95K is way more worth. Compact 7 seater with good fuel consumption has high demand in Malaysia.
I came from Perodua Viva to this Veloz. I feel paying extra RM20k is justified. Nobody can convert an Alza to a Veloz in the aftermarket even he is willing to spend RM20k for 'renovation'.
I think UWM Toyota should allocate more manpower on the Veloz production line because most people will choose Veloz over new Vios. People who are able to spend RM96k, are fathers of newborns. Veloz provide a better rear space over the Vios for family members.
The comparison between Veloz and new Vios is no longer the same like the comparison between Avanza and old Vios. Veloz is a true passenger car, not a van with ladder frame platform.
Yeah, Veloz when driving with 2-4 pax really drives well like a regular sedan just feels slightly higher and upright, so won't feel much difference with Vios aside from the ride height.
Then you get the option to carry 6-7 pax when you need to, though it might feel a little heavy on full load.
Yes. I really cannot brain the new pricing of new vios. Almost rm100k for a car? Crazy like ni brain. But to wait more than a year for Veloz is crazy too.
@@MitchelAmore the waiting list used to be 4 months
Until a lot of potential Alza buyers decide to get Veloz
Alza at the time waiting list was 6-8 months
Now Veloz 1 year Alza >1 year haha
However in 2002-2008 a B segment sedan was around 70-90+k?
100k is not much increase compared to food prices these days weyh
the veloz is produced in perodua plants
How's you're experienced driving veloz now & fuel consumption?
I owned one since Mar 2023, nice drive and same red color. 😊
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I don't know why he said Veloz is better drive than Alza with higher center of gravity. I had a new Alza and have tested Veloz also. I wanna buy Veloz but the queue is more than 1 year long. I booked new Alza when it launched and end up taking Alza since got allocation. End up I put almost half price downpayment since got budget.
What I like about Veloz
1. The sitting position is higher and better vision. Feel like SUV while Alza feel like wagon.
2. Wireless charging and wireless carplay is convenient.
3. 17 inch wheel look greater and also firmer ride give the impression of solid compare to Alza
4. Telescopic adjustment of steering is great for driving position. Alza doesn't have but not too bad coz I still feel quite comfortable despite of 180cm height.
5. Toyota badge is more premium than P2, it is undeniable.
6. Cabin noise isolation is better than Alza.
7. Front bumper design looks better.
Cons
1. Aircond cannot blow on leg.
2. No center locking button, this is weak.
3. Body roll is higher than Alza
Is it worth of 20k more? It is subjective to individual. There are many people afford 95k and like Toyota badge. It is absolutely nothing wrong to go for it. Imagine new Vios is 2 seats lesser but selling similar price like Veloz. Isn't the Veloz consider as bargain?
Alza in another hand is toward budget concern customers or those people who prefer buy thing in value of money. Also got people like me feel the Veloz queue is super long and place deposit on duo. See which car being allocated then take that one.
if u add in the gear up vibratile for Alza, the cabin noise isolation will on par/better than veloz with just RM285. definitely good bargain
@@pisceskp oh really. I did order the gear up vibratile but haven't put yet coz no stock. Hopefully this will help on the noise isolation.
Yeah, agree with all the points you mentioned 🙌🙌
How long did you wait for your Alza?
@etjh6560 I booked before launch. But SA didn't follow up and end up wait got 1 year to get the car.
@@aeroline11 oh jeezzz that's long
Maybe because of life commitment and responsibilities of my own, it is difficult for me to justify buying the same car (almost) with a higher price tag. If it comes with better safety features/reliability/better after sale service (but that at times depends on individual staffs/service centres), yes I'd consider, but not for minor upgrades.
Just my 2 cents.
Anyway, really appreciate that you always include your height for comparison purpose 😊
Yes, Veloz and Alza main difference is in the comfort and small touches here and there
Safety/performance is the same
The Alza and Veloz both are worth the pricetag, and Alza definitely is sufficient for normal use around town or for daily commute
If one travels long distance all the time, and spend many hours in the car, then the Veloz would be more comfortable, aside from that, can save the $ and use it elsewhere
nice for cruising and for daily drive to run errands and in traffic jam, but once up the karak highway, got to lower your expectations, rpm rev high, engine roar loudly but don’t go any faster especially if with 4 adult, very hard to overtake lorries and buses as it takes longer time to overtake without blocking other car behind
Almost 30k difference if u factor in Alza X
That car is basic but not in terms of safety
I dont need touchscreen HU
Just slap in azdome/70mai rearview dashcam around 400+ then u hv a reversecam
Leather seat i can install later aswell
Truly best value for an MPV if u ask me😊
besides the center lock, another one sad story is veloz unable to blow the aircond wind to the leg room, while alza and vios can. No idea why Toyota cut these 2 cost cheap but important parts 🤦🏻♂️
This Veloz is sold in the Philippines along with Rush as a 7-Seater Subcompact Crossover SUV competing against Honda BR-V, Suzuki XL7, and Mitsubishi Xpander Cross.
Here in phils. veloz have black fender flare and have a foglights
The lack of 5 way aircond in the Veloz for 20k is a no for me. Rather stick to the Alza with the manual and 5 way aircond. Having only wind in my face and a hot feet due to exhaust and engine heat cannot la for Malaysia
what car u drove bro? never feels heat in my feet while driving. u drove kancil or what?
@@nmaxownerchannel8030 actually I drove the Rush which is quite comparable since it also doesn’t have 5 way aircond. When on highway long long can feel face cold yet legs are hot because next to driver underneath is the exhaust pipe. But it applies to any car also. Just use face only then can always get feet hot later on after an hour or so. 90% of the time I drive my cars all face and feet setting then temperature is quite balanced. Later tried a Aruz and then got difference since perodua put back 5 way. If u have Conti car with full auto aircond you will notice that once cabin is cold, and the fan drops, it also auto give face and feet after starting out on face first
Loud and clear. Tq Hafiz. I like your English
Does this have adaptative cruise control with stop and go?
1 point i nvr see reviewers mention. Hafriz, is Veloz headlights capable of adaptive beam function like alza? Disabling some led to avoid glare? Because u know, veloz uses different headlights compared to alza full spec.
Yes it can.
Will there be a Paultan X90 video review?
I hope too 🤲🏻
@@alvinsonlampunanakphilip5613 would rather not sit in X90's 3rd row over AlzaVeloz😅
@@outalingamcrap9366 buy the car with the best 3rd row, as you are sitting at the back.
My aunt brought this car by cash when it first release.. got it within a month and this car so much fun to drive.. rm70 can go long distance back and forth 😍
Where is this long distance travelled? Fuel consumption OK?
Veloz the best!!
visor is important so that i could open the window slightly when parked or during drive then it suddenly it rains
Yup, however it will be better if it's an optional accessory, using the Veloz myself, i do wish i don't have it when i'm on the highway, as it generates a lot of wind noise above 100kph
U can open window a bit & water still dont come in even without visor. My xpander can do that. Excellent windows design. Now my car is quieter on hiway & can park with windows open a bit.
@@pauljaa4719 would love to experience an xpander one day, most people says it handles well
@@etjh6560 feel free bro. Mitsu welcomes test drives. There's even a service test drive to your home (i think in some parts of Selangor & KL & Johor), u arrange with nearby participating SC & they will come to ur house to let u test drive in your area of familiarity.
To me, yeah, like Hafriz said, xpander rides like a 100k mpv & handling part is great despite high ride height. Kon Wai Luen & Eu Jin also tested the handling capability of xpander. They said it handles unexpectedly well, for a tall riding crossover. Almost car-like. How mitsubishi manages that is beyond me. Maybe the Evo-inspired absorber valve on all 4 corners of the xpander...
@@etjh6560 feel free to test the xpander a bit rough. Find some potholes, speed bumps, thick yellow lines. Go over em like u normally would. Ull be surprised. I was, & now i own one ✌🏾
i think it's worth it though both the alza and veloz they are fantastic cars and not to forget it's everywhere in ampang but my dad loves the looks of the veloz and myself love the looks of the alza 😊💖🤯😄
clear , honest and updated facts ,,, good works Paul
He is Hafriz
After a year launched the waiting list still minimum 6 months 😢 went to Perodua ask about Alza the waiting list even more shocking 11 months waiting list 😮😢
10 star review...tx hafiz..assalamualaikum..
Do you know if the Lane Keep Control works at what speeds? Because in the Alza it only works at 60km/h and above
Xpander vs veloz which one is the best choices?
is it worth to trade in my toyota wish zge 2011/2015 for this veloz
correct me if im wrong but does this use 7 speed cvt while alza is using d-cvt as its transmission
Always excellent review
When you compare a car that you're reviewing to another can you show a side by side picture of the thing that you're comparing to? It's so much easier for viewer to understand the points you're making. Just saying 'this looks the same that looks different' kinda difficult to understand
i wonder why toyota doest fit the veloz with fog lamp... it might not needed on certain area such as in the city... but we in sabah sarawak we have thick fog.....
Here in indonesia we have foglam on veloz.
if you want VELOZ, go for it.. if you want ALZA, go for it too.. nothing wrong, all is right.. its your money..
i went for ALZA AV only as it is the one that i can afford.. just renewed the roadtax on 06-Aug, and it is performing well despite had some minor defects..
The new Alza comes to fill the niche and price range left by the Nissan Almera. Low spec Alza is Samsung S23, Top spec Alza is S23+, Veloz is S23 Ultra.
@@1chai point there, can't agree more. either way, both justifies your needs
yes, i buy Alza AV to replace my pity almera e spec, it is a big upgrade, definity worth it
mind to share how to connect the wireless apple carplay?
Set up CarPlay
1. Start your car, then make sure that Siri is on.
2. Connect your iPhone to your car:
• If your car supports CarPlay with a USB cable, plug your iPhone into the USB port in your car. The USB port might be labeled with a CarPlay icon or a smartphone icon. Be sure to use an Apple Lightning to USB cable.
• If your car supports CarPlay both wirelessly and with a USB cable, plug your iPhone into the USB port in your car. An alert on your iPhone will offer to connect you wirelessly on your next drives.
• If your car supports only wireless CarPlay, press and hold the voice command button on your steering wheel. Make sure that your stereo is in wireless or Bluetooth mode. Then on your iPhone, go to Settings > Wi-Fi, and make sure that Wi-Fi is also turned on. Tap the CarPlay network, and check that Auto-Join is turned on. Then, go to Settings > General > CarPlay, and select your car. Check your car manual for more information
Xpander is better in steering respond and quite agile. But Xpander lose out in term of solid feel which found in Veloz and Alza.
In term of comfort maybe Xpander is better than Veloz but Alza is confirm more comfort ride than Xpander. Those who consider the 3 MPV please go test drive yourself before making decision.
Get a Toyota. No headache to maintain.
Nice video
Love your channel and can you review the new Lexus nx and keep the job up
Ofcourse worth it if you got the dough..because lets be real here,driving a toyota will give you a sense of atas berbanding perodua at least
Just twonder why in market don't introduce 1.6 liter NA engine to overcome under power car eg. Veloz/Alza/Aruz/Rush/..etc. Why no more 1.6L engine ?
1.6NA is only slightly powerful than 1.5NA but fuel consumption is higher. I got a new Alza and in city relaxing drive it is easily achieve 15km/l which is very impressive for a 7 seater MPV.
My bro got a Serena hybrid and in city drive it is about 10km/l. Can't blame much because it is much roomier and comfortable for passenger compare to new Alza. But Alza drive better seriously.
I need to know whether this veloz is using the same grade chasis as alza ? Or different? I see no car reviewer told this.. hopefully paultan team read my comment nd reply soon..cos i dont want to pay 20k more just for the wireless charger 😂
It's the same
@@kltan7889 so its worthless paying more 20k. Nd we just paying 20k more just for the brand and the duty tax eve though the car is manufactured in a local brand factory
@@vinothkrishnan1540 well, to each his own. Some thinks it's worth it some think not. Tepuk dada tanya selera. If like and can afford why not? If think it's a waste, there are always alternatives~
value over wr v for sure
Should put 9 airbag on this original Toyota than the copy Alza.
Another critical point no reviewer ever commented on it. The legs room at front row really narrow 😅 no room to move left or right for ppl size like hafriz and me 😂 #clastophobic
I knew other markets have adaptive cruise. Sadly, this was omitted on the Philippine version.
Only Malaysian-spec Veloz has Adaptive Cruise Control. The rest don't have, including the likes of the Philippines, Indonesia, and Thailand.
@@renzettgarcia9693 that is what i dont understand. i mean, the hardware is already there, why not include it? does it need a lot of effort to implement this feature, that is what i want to know.
@@benf3996 The cost would probably increase if ACC was added as standard.
Can I get a 5 seater veloz? Love the legroom at the 2nd row back seat... any car below 100k as good as this? Maybe a 80k 5 seater veloz
just don’t use the 3rd row😅 probably you could DiY remove it yourself.
@@azhar5912 😂😂, don't even need to remove it, can just fold it flat and pretend it's not there 😂😂
why get a 5 seater though? any reasons?
The Vios is practically also the same chassis and engine transmission setup, just that it had much lower ride height and a more sedan style seating
Prefer a suv, easier for parents to go up n down... also want shorter length for easier maneuver... so why Toyota can’t do a 5 seater veloz? Plenty of demand for under 100k mpv
@@danieltay1052 oh do you mean sth like the configuration of the honda WR-V
Perodua Ativa
Or the upcoming Toyota Yaris Cross?
The Yaris Cross will be very similar to a 5 seater shortened Veloz
@@etjh6560 Yaris cross is good but would be over 100k... Honda wrv backseat is not comfortable and the dashboard etc is so 90s... Ativa is 3 cylinders and my experience with Kelisa is a nightmare... not sure what I can get with 100k
so what is the difference between 2022 veloz and 2023 version?
2022 waiting time 6 months. 2023 waiting time 18 months 😂
@@tenweipeng2199 😂😭
20k is pretty significant when we're talking 100k price range, so I personally don't think it's worth it.
no feet ac vent, no front defogger.... unacceptable.
This one is quite weird coz Alza got. Maybe face-lift will come with this, I guess.
Forgot to mention veloz has VTS for safety & security, also better ergonomics for ingress n egress. Orang sakit lutut ACL confirm will appreciate..
To me I find new Alza got better ingress and egress for old folks or ACL. Veloz is a little bit high for old folks, but better vision compare to Alza.
This depends on the height of the person I would say. My grandpa snugs in easily to the Veloz.
Waiting period more than 12 months.
The sales advisor did not tell the truth. Some honest SA will say at least 18 months. But this also show the demand of Veloz is good though.
My aunt got it within a month when she brought it by cash
The middle and 3rd row seats are poor.and uncomfortable.
Definitely not poor for middle row. If 3rd row not in use, you can push the middle row to the back and sit like a boss. Or you can make it like a bed by combining middle row and last row seat.
The last row is tight if 7 adults in the car but those who 160cm can sit in 3rd row without struggle. It is small MPV and not comparable to Alphard or Serena which are more spacious but also much pricier.
why toyota use engine daihatsu?
Daihatsu is owned by Toyota
Go EV, go BYD Dolphin. Beats this Toyota by miles, in this price range. Enough suckered by Japanese marks.
Should compare apple to apple, not apple to orange. BYD Dolphin is good but it is 400km range only and in real world maybe 300km and also 2 seats lesser. Those who need small MPV usually have 2 kids or above. Dolphin is just not practical then.
6 people in a BYD Dolphin is abit uncomfortable..
No doubt the car serve it purpose, however the more i look at it on the side, the more weird proportions.. if would be better if the make it more MPV like than SUV like.
I dont think veloz use dcvt. Only cvt
it's a dcvt, toyota just doesn't wanna mention it
(veloz owner here)
When you look at the Alza, the transmission design and casing are identical
@@etjh6560 wonder why toyota didn't want to mention it
@@etjh6560I think veloz - gear, then cvt for high speed. Alza - cvt, then gear for high speed.
@@arenavideo424 Cause a lot of people get sensitive that it uses Daihatsu components, and it does make a difference in sales. From a technical view, if the daihatsu design is good, then there's nothing wrong using it.
Though truly a lot of buyers have a judgemental view towards daihatsu vs toyota.
Granted, Perodua does have lower quality, but that's due to the parts suppliers, not the design itself.
Recently the Alza has issues whereas no news at all from the Veloz group, everything seems to be fine
Turns out the Veloz uses daihatsu thailand parts (thus also adds to the import tax) whereas Alza uses locally sourced parts
I also believe it's not necessarily that Malaysian capability is bad,
it all boils down to the costing, need sth cheap, that means compromise in quality
@@so7o3o4 Veloz and Alza use the same gearbox
Only the new Innova and GR Corolla uses the new Direct Shift CVT from Japan
As a Veloz user myself, i really wish we have that Direct Shift CVT, but sadly no
buruknyaa..design 10 tahun kebelakang
My colleague recently got this car and everyone kept making fun of him for paying more for an Alza with a Toyota badge (I’m aware its a Daihatsu / Toyota rebadged) Kinda feel for him though.
Though it's very similar to an Alza
But having used both I can guarantee there's a much better comfort level in the Veloz compared to the Alza
Veloz doesn't have any Major differentiating factors (such as engine or transmission)
Yet all the small differences add up to easily 15 or more improvements over the Alza
However both cars are indeed worth it for the price respective for each model
imagine paying 100k for a wrv..lmao
macam kereta mayat
😂, Alza H spec Hitam lagi macam kete mayat
Undertaker dh beli sebijik kereta ni😂
Nope not worth it. So vanilla like all poopadua and towyourcar
booooriiinggg..
prefer XPander? 😅