Nice vid. My only criticism is that most of these clips are random and unrelated to what you’re talking about. The video would’ve been way more impactful if you showed questionable offensive plays. But instead it’s just plays where the call wouldn’t even be in question cuz nothing is happening and the players aren’t even touching each other. Still a good video though.
Your not very smart top tier. He said it’s a good video just called the clips unrelated. It’s called constructive criticism, something that is clearly above your head
They are not changing the rules here, they are just clarifying with the referees and fans what the actual rulebook says. The officiating began to deviate too far from the actual rulebook.
Real life situation is way more complex than a few pages of rules can describe. Phrases like "Offensive player initiating the contact" or "defensively player jumping in his own airspace" are all fundamentally vague and up for interpretation. The true cutting line is set by the current pattern/tendency of foul calling on the court, not on paper. This value/human pattern/tendency can be changed by communication between the league and the refs.
I am all for it! I love defensive basketball. I’m only 24, but I grew up watching film of 90’s and 2000’s basketball. I love that gritty, physical game. Obviously the game will never get back to that since out shooting is more prominent, but I love decisions like this one
@@FlierEmblem_ yeah for me sometimes i just find defence less stressful since my team chemistry isnt amazing but you dont really need chemistry for defence and im also really good at defence which makes it a lot more fun, especially when i get blocks
Nah, the game isn't any less physical. In matter fact, more foul calls happened in the 90's. Everyone saying they loved 90's basketball typically haven't actually watched games of that era from what I've noticed. Guys had less shooting, inferior skills off the dribble, and weren't as crafty with punishing over eager defensive players. If you hit an offensive player while they're shooting, it should be a foul period. We don't need to artificially bring back the low scoring games of the dead ball era by legalizing obvious fouls to make older fans happy. A foul is a foul
Part of it isn’t the amount of fouls being called. It’s the type of foul. Anytime a player drives, picks up the ball, and gets fouled, they get free throws even if they don’t put up a shot. Another case is I saw Jimmy Butler yesterday go for a layup, miss, got the rebound, got fouled while landing, and get free throws even though he didn’t shoot the ball again. Refs are too quick to rule fouls as shooting fouls.
I guess if you like to watch someone stand around blowing on their hands, laying on the floor crying even tho he's the biggest guy out there. Or staying back behind the play screaming at the refs or always blaming his team. @@tine0508
I grew up watching basketball in the early 2000’s so I absolutely hate how the game is now but it’s because it’s soo catered to the offensive player it’s needs to be balanced
Handchecking won’t do very much. It’s already one of the most overrated rules ever. Handchecking is not gonna stop luka. Defensive still use handchecking sparingly
@@X02Overdose Because it has exactly nothing to do with the offensive explotion in the NBA which happened in 2017 13 years after hand checking was removed. Foul Baiting needs to be banned the 3 second violation needs to be put back in and the refs need to allow more physicality into the game.
@@X02Overdose because people act like you can completely stop and control players and that’s just false. Players still scored just fine when handchecking was a thing and that was before crossovers and more advanced handles were a thing. Handchecking is an easy way to get blown by especially in todays nba with more space then ever and better shooting then ever. Also when handchecking went away we don’t see a massive scoring jump in the 2000s. If players like Michael Adam’s scored 20+ and was an all star players today will not be affected by handchecking in the slightest
I hate guys running into defenders and getting free throws, like without bearning them genuinely. It is not about more physical defense, but actually getting rid of physical offense. Like offensive player seeks physical contact.
It’s a combination, players in this era are definitely more talented and have a bigger bag of tricks than older eras, the refs call more for offensive players but there’s also people with a rep like Draymond and pat Bev who get leeway because their reputation is being “defensive dogs” even when they are blatantly fouling. I think foul baiting needs to be clamped down on though.
This is NOT the first time the nba tells the ref to change the focus during the season. 2 years ago the refs were allowing alot of contact during the first 12 games or so (which fans enjoyed) before the refs were told to open the flood gates.
I noticed the scoring was down just by looking at the recent games over the last few weeks. Then I went looked to the scoring avg a few days ago and it's down to 114ppg when it had been hovering around 115ppg since like December.
I think the directive should be "call the regular season like the playoffs." Scoring drops dramatically in the playoffs. Part of that is higher effort level and part of it is better game-planning. But a big part is also how much contact the officials allow. If you called the regular season like the playoffs, that would be enough to get scoring under control. I don't think most people want to go back to early 2000s basketball with the Pistons beating the Nets 84-77 or whatever. But there's a middle ground. Games that finish 143-137 aren't that fun to watch either. I think 110 is about the perfect average score.
I think another contributing factor is Wemby as the anointed future Face of the NBA. It's become obvious that his main superpower is once in a generation defense. As a rookie, he's already a candidate for DPoY. Rebounds, Blacks and Steals. He's got it all. And it's Adam Silver's job to help him reach his most impressive potential. For the future of the league. So moving forward, the league will shift to empower defenders more as to give Wemby (and Chet too) a better chance to showcase their skills and get more fans.
does seem to be better games played after the all-star break, i hated seeing every other play a foul. no fun watching someone drop 50 if the result is watching a 4hr game with everyone flopping and getting to the line.
The officiating seemed to really shift after Luka's 73 point game. Since then, I feel like they're making it a point to allow a lot more physicality in an effort to shed the soft era label.
scoring is down because the guys who can score are out. Embiid, KAT, Trae, Randle, Scottie Barnes, Donovan Mitchell and Booker have missed time as well. These are 1st or second options on teams
Not true at all lol even the worst teams in the league like the Wizards can score 140 points on any given night. When stars are out other players take the mandle.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 you realize that they literally keep track of how many more points are scored when these stars are on the floor right? What I said wasn't speculation. It's based on recorded stats. Plus we're talking on average. Of course teams will have random point explosions, but right now teams on average are scoring less than they were before the all star break.
He’s like a movie character. Unapologetically him. Shows no remorse for previous actions. The masses praise him for being real. The lengths we go to reject reality…
I don't believe that scoring has increased mainly due to the talent level, it has increased because the NBA hasn't allowed players to play defense in the regular season anymore. The playoffs is a good example, when the officials allow players to actually play defense. The games have become unwatchable atm, Shai, Luka, Embiid, they are all foul merchants, they are very talented and gifted scorers, but every damn contact, they seem to earn a foul.
I only agree with that to a certain extent.. However, the main reason the scoring is so high is because the style of play, the amount of three point shots, and how fast paced the game is now… it’s also hard to guard when you have almost every player can knock down a three(I exaggerated) also you have team setting screens all over the place.
I don't see it as the league changing rules midseason, but more the refs correcting how they call fouls. The offensive player was given too many liberties in getting foul calls and it was getting out of hand. This is much better.
why are you only showing so much letrash, he doesn't even have close to any of the high scores. You mentioned flailing, that must be why lebalco is the focus
Every players thinking about it...... Let's lower thing out and go back to Cancun!!!! All of them are already paid.... Time to go home.... There are no wins or lose on a paycheck.....
LUKA BEFORE 9,3 FT attempts AFTER 7,1 FT attempts. GIANNIS BEFORE 10,9 FT attempts AFTER 12,3 FT attempts. ( got a lot more ) SGA BEFORE 9,1 FT attempts AFTER 8,5 FT Attempts ( almost no Change) SEEMS to me that they are only targeting that player that GOT 73 points.
AFTER THE ALL STAR GAME GIANNIS 12,3 FT attempts per game (1 game with 21 FT / 3 games over 15 FT ) SGA 6 games of 11 played with 9 or more FT attempts. ( 8,5 FT attempts) LUKA 7,1 FT attempts ( just 1 game over 10 FT attempts)...
GUYS? SGA / GIANNIS / EMBIID .. why do you put LUKA who plays with contact??? SGA still gettting his FT attempts. GIANNIS still getting his FT attempts. EMBIID isnt playing and he is the BIGGEST FT MERCHANT... SO everything i see is NBA trying to cut the wings from some players.
How convenient for LeBron. He's accumulated all his stats in the zero defense era, now that he's about to retire, they're gonna make scoring harder again.... more proof that the NBA catered to this clown his entire career!
Casual, Lebron played like 70% of his career and won his 4 MVP and 3 of his FMVP before the 3pts revolution and scoring explosion that really started around 2018 after the Warriors dominated the league and won 3 titles, so from 2003 to 2018, the game was still similar to other era, the 2000’s and early 2010’s were like the 90’s, and the late 2010’s like the 70’s or 80’s, it’s only after 2018 or 2020 that the offensive rating reached a new high and keep getting higher, so basically after Lebron 35th birthday, Lebron isn’t in his prime anymore, if not he would be putting much better stats, but because of the offensive explosion, the spacing and 3pts shooters everywhere his basic 5 major stats still look the same as they were in his prime, but stop acting like they did this for him, who could have tought that Lebron would still be playing at a Top 10 level at this age ? This is just the natural evolution of Basketball man, offensive rating always go high, then low, then high again ect, you would know it if you wasn’t a casual
I dissagree with you. If they take away calling fouls when driving to the hoop. Then Everyone is going to play like the gay goldens state warriors styles where all your going to do is shoot threes and avoid driving to the hoop. If they want to limit scoring. They will have to officiate like they did in the 90's. Which is more physical. Handchecking allowed. And if a team gets to hammer you when going to the rim let them hammer you to send a psychological message to the smaller less physical player that if you drive to the hoop you will get hammered. This will add more variety and stategy to the game. Rather then just driving to the hoop and kicking out for the open 3s or just shooting 50 shoot attempts from 3s. The game is so mindless now.
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Nice vid. My only criticism is that most of these clips are random and unrelated to what you’re talking about. The video would’ve been way more impactful if you showed questionable offensive plays. But instead it’s just plays where the call wouldn’t even be in question cuz nothing is happening and the players aren’t even touching each other. Still a good video though.
@@SnakeMaster420and u still click on the video
Your not very smart top tier. He said it’s a good video just called the clips unrelated. It’s called constructive criticism, something that is clearly above your head
it would be GIANNIS / SGA / EMBIID highlights...
@@toptiercripooorrr maybe he saw the thumbnail and title of the video and decided it was interesting enough to click on
W constructive criticism
The all-star game score and Adam Silver's visible disdain for it look like the catalysts for the in season rule changes
Adam silver wanted this , he wanted a fast pace , high scoring league. Idk why he’s so surprised with the outcome
They are not changing the rules here, they are just clarifying with the referees and fans what the actual rulebook says. The officiating began to deviate too far from the actual rulebook.
Real life situation is way more complex than a few pages of rules can describe. Phrases like "Offensive player initiating the contact" or "defensively player jumping in his own airspace" are all fundamentally vague and up for interpretation. The true cutting line is set by the current pattern/tendency of foul calling on the court, not on paper. This value/human pattern/tendency can be changed by communication between the league and the refs.
I am all for it! I love defensive basketball. I’m only 24, but I grew up watching film of 90’s and 2000’s basketball. I love that gritty, physical game. Obviously the game will never get back to that since out shooting is more prominent, but I love decisions like this one
A mix between yhe 2000 and the 2020 would be pretty fun
i love seeing defence but for me even playing defence is nearly as fun as offence
@@bananalegend194 No same! Every time I play pick up, I always prefer when we’re on defense. It’s like a fun challenge to me
@@FlierEmblem_ yeah for me sometimes i just find defence less stressful since my team chemistry isnt amazing but you dont really need chemistry for defence and im also really good at defence which makes it a lot more fun, especially when i get blocks
Nah, the game isn't any less physical. In matter fact, more foul calls happened in the 90's. Everyone saying they loved 90's basketball typically haven't actually watched games of that era from what I've noticed. Guys had less shooting, inferior skills off the dribble, and weren't as crafty with punishing over eager defensive players. If you hit an offensive player while they're shooting, it should be a foul period. We don't need to artificially bring back the low scoring games of the dead ball era by legalizing obvious fouls to make older fans happy. A foul is a foul
Part of it isn’t the amount of fouls being called. It’s the type of foul. Anytime a player drives, picks up the ball, and gets fouled, they get free throws even if they don’t put up a shot.
Another case is I saw Jimmy Butler yesterday go for a layup, miss, got the rebound, got fouled while landing, and get free throws even though he didn’t shoot the ball again. Refs are too quick to rule fouls as shooting fouls.
Were the teams in the bonus though? Cuz if they were players get foul shots regardless of if they were in the motion of shooting or not.
@@MuttonErase Nah I’m talking about pre bonus fouls.
@@obi3924 ah ok
Lmao why was Jimmy the first player I thought of when I watched this video
There needs to be more effort to call travels, carry's and double dribbles...but this is a step in right direction to balance the game.
The talking part was interesting, but... Why exactly am I watching a Lebron mixtape?
because lebron is a fun player to watch?
Because he’s the face of the league
Watch the rest of the video, it has Luka,Giannis, etc
I guess if you like to watch someone stand around blowing on their hands, laying on the floor crying even tho he's the biggest guy out there. Or staying back behind the play screaming at the refs or always blaming his team. @@tine0508
lebron should have like 10 offensive fouls a game
And 20 traveling calls, and 5 flop calls
And 19 free throws.
You can say the same for every player
I grew up watching basketball in the early 2000’s so I absolutely hate how the game is now but it’s because it’s soo catered to the offensive player it’s needs to be balanced
Adam silver should just say fuck it and bring back handchecking
Get rid of 3 second violations
Handchecking won’t do very much. It’s already one of the most overrated rules ever. Handchecking is not gonna stop luka. Defensive still use handchecking sparingly
@@mattsell2361how exactly is it overrated
@@X02Overdose Because it has exactly nothing to do with the offensive explotion in the NBA which happened in 2017 13 years after hand checking was removed. Foul Baiting needs to be banned the 3 second violation needs to be put back in and the refs need to allow more physicality into the game.
@@X02Overdose because people act like you can completely stop and control players and that’s just false. Players still scored just fine when handchecking was a thing and that was before crossovers and more advanced handles were a thing. Handchecking is an easy way to get blown by especially in todays nba with more space then ever and better shooting then ever. Also when handchecking went away we don’t see a massive scoring jump in the 2000s. If players like Michael Adam’s scored 20+ and was an all star players today will not be affected by handchecking in the slightest
I hate guys running into defenders and getting free throws, like without bearning them genuinely. It is not about more physical defense, but actually getting rid of physical offense. Like offensive player seeks physical contact.
Im waiting for JJ redicks response to this since he swore scoring has nothing to do with officiating and has everything to do with unstoppable skill
Lol nothing has really changed tbh
Well he's right and you ignorant fans know nothing
@@smgyro1476 sacasm i hope
@@smgyro1476lol he is not right. It is a combination of the 2 not one single thing in particular
It’s a combination, players in this era are definitely more talented and have a bigger bag of tricks than older eras, the refs call more for offensive players but there’s also people with a rep like Draymond and pat Bev who get leeway because their reputation is being “defensive dogs” even when they are blatantly fouling. I think foul baiting needs to be clamped down on though.
I want to see competitive basketball. Missed the early 2000s.
This is NOT the first time the nba tells the ref to change the focus during the season. 2 years ago the refs were allowing alot of contact during the first 12 games or so (which fans enjoyed) before the refs were told to open the flood gates.
This!
It’s like you’re trying to convince us to be interested 😂 “it’s really interesting that I’m interested in this interesting topic”
SGA would like a word 😂
Great vid tucker
I think it’s a good move. I don’t see it so much as changing to rules, more so as being more strict about enforcing the rules that already exist.
I noticed the scoring was down just by looking at the recent games over the last few weeks. Then I went looked to the scoring avg a few days ago and it's down to 114ppg when it had been hovering around 115ppg since like December.
This only works when they apply the rules to EVERYONE. Not just "giannis gets to travel as much as he wants"
Bruhhh he either bulldozes or gets a foul..and they calk him unstoppable- well duh there is no choice
Giannis doesn't travel a lot taking 2 steps without a dribble then dunking or go for a lay up is not a travel. The Euro step is not a travel.
I think the directive should be "call the regular season like the playoffs." Scoring drops dramatically in the playoffs. Part of that is higher effort level and part of it is better game-planning. But a big part is also how much contact the officials allow. If you called the regular season like the playoffs, that would be enough to get scoring under control.
I don't think most people want to go back to early 2000s basketball with the Pistons beating the Nets 84-77 or whatever. But there's a middle ground. Games that finish 143-137 aren't that fun to watch either. I think 110 is about the perfect average score.
No i actually want to see 84-77 scores you have to work and grind for every bucket i love that.
I think another contributing factor is Wemby as the anointed future Face of the NBA. It's become obvious that his main superpower is once in a generation defense. As a rookie, he's already a candidate for DPoY. Rebounds, Blacks and Steals. He's got it all.
And it's Adam Silver's job to help him reach his most impressive potential. For the future of the league. So moving forward, the league will shift to empower defenders more as to give Wemby (and Chet too) a better chance to showcase their skills and get more fans.
What is the point of having a half court line? With the shot clock why do you need it?
Its good for now, but Im expecting more injuries to come.
Good stuff
Adam Silver needs to be strict on refs with this rule instead of letting them do whatever and then remove it in the end.
Joel embiid boutta come back and average 15ppg without his free foul calls
I think if a offensive player drops their shoulder into the defender on a eurostep, i feel like that should be an offensive foul
Good call
does seem to be better games played after the all-star break, i hated seeing every other play a foul. no fun watching someone drop 50 if the result is watching a 4hr game with everyone flopping and getting to the line.
Right decision. James made 4 steps during his spin move (6:00) and dunked the ball. No call. What a shame.
The officiating seemed to really shift after Luka's 73 point game. Since then, I feel like they're making it a point to allow a lot more physicality in an effort to shed the soft era label.
After the all star game Adam Silver was visibly up set.
im seeing more defense in my local pickup games than some of these plays. its pathetic
scoring is down because the guys who can score are out. Embiid, KAT, Trae, Randle, Scottie Barnes, Donovan Mitchell and Booker have missed time as well. These are 1st or second options on teams
Not true at all lol even the worst teams in the league like the Wizards can score 140 points on any given night. When stars are out other players take the mandle.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 you realize that they literally keep track of how many more points are scored when these stars are on the floor right? What I said wasn't speculation. It's based on recorded stats. Plus we're talking on average. Of course teams will have random point explosions, but right now teams on average are scoring less than they were before the all star break.
He’s like a movie character. Unapologetically him. Shows no remorse for previous actions. The masses praise him for being real. The lengths we go to reject reality…
I don't believe that scoring has increased mainly due to the talent level, it has increased because the NBA hasn't allowed players to play defense in the regular season anymore. The playoffs is a good example, when the officials allow players to actually play defense. The games have become unwatchable atm, Shai, Luka, Embiid, they are all foul merchants, they are very talented and gifted scorers, but every damn contact, they seem to earn a foul.
I only agree with that to a certain extent.. However, the main reason the scoring is so high is because the style of play, the amount of three point shots, and how fast paced the game is now… it’s also hard to guard when you have almost every player can knock down a three(I exaggerated) also you have team setting screens all over the place.
The league is too selective of what rules to focus.
love the video
I don't see it as the league changing rules midseason, but more the refs correcting how they call fouls. The offensive player was given too many liberties in getting foul calls and it was getting out of hand. This is much better.
Adam, finally, got mad...
It was about time, they be playing you for years
If anything, I want fouls when driver runs into a guy and then gets a foul, to be removed. If offensive player initiated contact- no foul.
why are you only showing so much letrash, he doesn't even have close to any of the high scores. You mentioned flailing, that must be why lebalco is the focus
basically they patched the season
As if they didnt know already....
Too many fouls being called
Good, hopefully this works out and the oldheads will stop yapping
Rare NBA W
Now that Lebron has the scoring title maybe they’ll bring back defense
It took you 2:45 to get to the point 🤦🏻♂️
which he then repeated like 6-7 times
@@alexboche1349 just to make the video in that 8 minute zone so he gets more ad revenue from RUclips smh
Westbrook made a career playing this way. Elbow to the face of the defender and he goes to the line . . .
Every players thinking about it...... Let's lower thing out and go back to Cancun!!!!
All of them are already paid.... Time to go home....
There are no wins or lose on a paycheck.....
refs ruin every game in every sport
LUKA
BEFORE 9,3 FT attempts
AFTER 7,1 FT attempts.
GIANNIS
BEFORE 10,9 FT attempts
AFTER 12,3 FT attempts. ( got a lot more )
SGA
BEFORE 9,1 FT attempts
AFTER 8,5 FT Attempts ( almost no Change)
SEEMS to me that they are only targeting that player that GOT 73 points.
I swear u just watch hoop collective podcast then make videos ab certain ish
HAHAHAHA
Or maybe every content creator talks about shit relevant to what’s going on now 🤗
@@thedotmandooblmao yeah and there’s nothing wrong with inspiration
The biggest reason for scoring increases is the rule changes. There's no hand checking and not as physical as it was in Jordan Era
Hand checking isn't going to change it especially considering it still happens
casual braindead argument
Hand checking is a myth lol this offensive boom happened in 2017 Handchecking has been removed for 2 decades since 2004.
AFTER THE ALL STAR GAME
GIANNIS 12,3 FT attempts per game (1 game with 21 FT / 3 games over 15 FT )
SGA 6 games of 11 played with 9 or more FT attempts. ( 8,5 FT attempts)
LUKA 7,1 FT attempts ( just 1 game over 10 FT attempts)...
GUYS? SGA / GIANNIS / EMBIID ..
why do you put LUKA who plays with contact???
SGA still gettting his FT attempts.
GIANNIS still getting his FT attempts.
EMBIID isnt playing and he is the BIGGEST FT MERCHANT...
SO everything i see is NBA trying to cut the wings from some players.
How convenient for LeBron. He's accumulated all his stats in the zero defense era, now that he's about to retire, they're gonna make scoring harder again.... more proof that the NBA catered to this clown his entire career!
You're actually delusional.
Casual, Lebron played like 70% of his career and won his 4 MVP and 3 of his FMVP before the 3pts revolution and scoring explosion that really started around 2018 after the Warriors dominated the league and won 3 titles, so from 2003 to 2018, the game was still similar to other era, the 2000’s and early 2010’s were like the 90’s, and the late 2010’s like the 70’s or 80’s, it’s only after 2018 or 2020 that the offensive rating reached a new high and keep getting higher, so basically after Lebron 35th birthday, Lebron isn’t in his prime anymore, if not he would be putting much better stats, but because of the offensive explosion, the spacing and 3pts shooters everywhere his basic 5 major stats still look the same as they were in his prime, but stop acting like they did this for him, who could have tought that Lebron would still be playing at a Top 10 level at this age ? This is just the natural evolution of Basketball man, offensive rating always go high, then low, then high again ect, you would know it if you wasn’t a casual
I dissagree with you. If they take away calling fouls when driving to the hoop. Then Everyone is going to play like the gay goldens state warriors styles where all your going to do is shoot threes and avoid driving to the hoop. If they want to limit scoring. They will have to officiate like they did in the 90's. Which is more physical. Handchecking allowed. And if a team gets to hammer you when going to the rim let them hammer you to send a psychological message to the smaller less physical player that if you drive to the hoop you will get hammered. This will add more variety and stategy to the game. Rather then just driving to the hoop and kicking out for the open 3s or just shooting 50 shoot attempts from 3s. The game is so mindless now.
lol you’re one sad incel
Back in the 90s everytime you drove to the basket you'd get stabbed and shot with a machette ruclips.net/video/zONvMKkIpwA/видео.html