8:48 The way I was taught.. on the moveable dummy, was.. we’d screw in properly.. then click the pegs into the correct holes.. and then because the dummy would move naturally, we’d put our PUNCHES or slaps where the dummy world recoil back. It would hit lightly enough to just stop it’s motion with your fist...
26:00 What I do is.. I go to the gym and hit the heavy bag n do pull ups n dips. Rip the jong work. And tie it all together by slamming the bag in real time. I’ll pretend it’s go time. I’m trying to use the biggest slickest howitzer I can muster up SAFELY. So that I know my response capabilities
Hey guys, when I visited Vietnam I went to this guy's home (his shop) to buy whatever I could that was small. He had WC dummies that were HUGE trunks (heavy wood base) that you could move if you projected correctly. Basically it was like a "wobbleman" toy, but you needed to have the right focus to move it. It was good to move around, but you'd need a trolley jack and two people to shift it. You'd have to see and feel it to believe it.
28:28 I use my body weight to FLING MY ARM FROM ME, only to flex and tighten up as it lands. Exploding a bit late causes a massive impact. What I mean about late is.. we never tighten things up until it’s gunna impact something worth it.
On the JKD question this whole debate "Concepts vs. Original" is really a product of the US MA magazine editors that pushed this controversy in the late 80s and early 90s as more Bruce Lee students taught publicly and opened with their teachings. Most of those arguments were fueled by students and students of students often projecting their own views and 3rd hand experiences on a very prominent martial art that is actually not widely available and practised in the mainstream martial arts community. Like the movie that everyone is talking about but few only have seen. Want to compliment and join Alex advice to try to understand both approaches, what they are offering and look into what the reasons are for this or that method, approach, attitude etc. To research your own experience to form your own opinion would be the JKD way to solve this dilemma. Great podcast, greetings to the entire team.
Having practised jkd for 37 years you go to seminars to learn jkd get taught Filipino kali silat Thai sikal maphilindo the concepts head has confused the jkd community the original lineage ted wong stuff took me years to find what Bruce taught never saw that material in jkd concepts seminars for 30 years
48:01 I really feel like people should know who to check in with if they practice wing chun or jkd. Meaning, who’s competent in the art? Who’s trustworthy? Speaking from experience.
24:46 Watched this one again with Jackie my Wifey. 😂We always tune in. That knuckle conditioning thing is stupid. I hate extremes. A powerful punch with alignment is way better. 💥😉🥊
27:07 agreed. I do my single hits locked out. I do my blasting a few inches short. Meaning I’d extend if the wall left for a second. My hand would reach out. But generally, for SINGLE SNUFFS. I’m long. Detached. Only thing landing is my pinky or bottom 3. 🤛💯
Many years ago, I built my own wooden dummy out of a large fence post. I had it outside and set it into the ground. I built a leg on it and some fairly long arms. But the arms didn't move (cuz I didn't know how to make them swivel).
I think there’s a Bob bag that has arms and stands on there legs, Maybe a regular Bob bag and add the wooden dummy attachment that you can put on a kicking bag
31:02 NO. 1. JERRY POTEET’s is the foremost authority on JKD other than DAN INOSANTO. Paul VUNAK is another one who has that distinction. Ted WONG was a part of it certainly. But these schools I mentioned were much bigger.
Awesome show! Dre needs to open a school near Morristown NJ :-). My question for consideration … if you where to design a total body work out what exercise would you do more of to help your Wing Tsun?
An important point in the purpose of the dummy is training footwork and position. As much as it’s overlooked in wing chun the situation is worse in choy lay fut where the vast majority think the main purpose of the dummy is some type of iron arm conditioning
23:15 ⚠️AGREED. Omgoodness. It’s like.. why would you need to do that amount or volume of work when we are fighting it seems quality is way more important than quantity, yet, they’ll smash their own hands. They’ll do endless rounds of wall bag punching. Problem is.. they don’t know how to land a shot while under stress, or scared. 💥🥊🤛💯
I appreciate your insight about training equipment. How about footwear? What shoes do you use for Wing Chun training? I have a pair of school-issued Feiyues but I’m a bigger guy and I find it difficult to pivot on a rubber mat surface.
Imo....*Datu Kelly Warden* has created the 4th generation training dummy. The arms are opposable and it reminds me of if one mixed the heavy bag with the 3rd generation dummy into one dummy. Although I'm not an instructor, I do have a training dummy...the body is metal and the limbs are wooden. I broke the leg at the "knee" of said dummy....had to make another leg 🤣. I gotta lay off the red meat 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for another great quality podcast Alex, Dre, TBG(that British guy), and Andrew.
17:41 I sent you a video of IP CHUN taking about WILLIAM CHEUNG. He says the reason his forms n applications were different, was because he was the laziest in the class, and he just made that stuff up. He always said.. he was a closed door student of IPMAN. He says he was taught TRADITIONAL WING CHUN. That was his excuse. 😂
If this is true why was William Cheung considered the greatest fighter in the Wing Chun Clan of that day, this was the words of Bruce Lee, Wong Sun Leung and others who were there. Duncan Leung was inspired to learn Wing Chun from what he heard of William. Ip Chun is expressing jealousy IMO, as he wasn't there anyway during William's training years, he came later and trained with his father's students. Let's have facts.
I have a Immortal Dummy ,had it for 13 years now its lived outside in my garden for 10 of them years, now inside, I use it every day and it's Still as good as when I got it 👍 👊🙏
If you punch emotionally you’ll break your hand. If you punch like a good trained wing chun/jkd person should. You’ll be detached and sticking high velocity bones into them like spikes.
Wing Chun Dummies for Dummies? That should be a book title....You can start any human dummy on the toys early if they need something more to learn the basics, but how long does it take to show fluency? 3 or 4 years of hard training? What if woodworkers had to inspect a clients skills first before they would sell us a Chong? HA! I wish these intemediate students would stick with air dummy drills and partner work, buy lessons from teachers instead of dead logs to hang on their wall. They cann't even punch a heavy bag with power, what are they going to learn from solid wood? The Dummy itself is a great tool and can be used on the first lesson but how long can a student train in WT WITHOUT NEEDING it? That was how the "ten year to start dummy" concept was presented to me, "Why do you need the dummy?" (3 years on each form with over lapping practice would get us to ten years.) As you mention in your book, the "secrets" would have been in the BT and Dummy, so it might take a decade to earn loyaltity. I made my own Wooden Dummy when the time came. Great exercise of the hands and leg adduction using a hammer and chisel goat clamped around a log. I have a tree bole and some oak limbs ready for my student to make his own with my help pretty soon. I measured the drawings in the Golden Covered booklet, and the photos in the Kuen plus I knew an old secret about the arm angles. I got it pretty good I think. We are going to measure it and compare to your diagram in Book 5. 29:23-To make it clearer, you need the sandbag work to develop the WT punch as you so eloquently discribed, and when this technology is achived WT punches can stop on contact as a skill. WT Thrust Punch requires this training; hitting HARD in the same patterns we use SOFT in partner training. We do need the minimium skin thickening to survive the body conditioning we do against the Wallbag though, but NOT the stuff Iron Palm does... It is a paradox, an example of a fundemental confused as an end result (Footnote 65, "Seeking the Bridge," Richter, 2019). We use the fist to train the power of the whole body on a solid surface, but the strike in application might be a chop or Erect Palm or Biu Tze,.....no fist at all. The Bone does not chase the Dog... I also punch trees in the park, and made special gloves to protect my handbones, but the impact energy is what is important, from the fist out the foot. The hands do not need to get ruined in training and should not be. The progression is not to get harder materials inside the bag, but to move onto hitting a heavy hanging bag, fixed dummy and later a full Wooden Dummy. The wall bag is the same as a glove, a thin layer to protect the finger and hand bones. We have a wide variety of materials to use today in this area...
Wish I had your book 20 years ago when I bought my Immortal dummy. I shall console myself with the knowledge that it recycled a lot of plastic in its making.
I got my dummy from warrior martial arts Supply it's a free standing with the box in the back I ordered it with 2 striking pads and 3 spring arms with 1 additional 18" spring arm it arrived in 3 months and i paid $1819.00 and I've never regretted my purchase the wood is ash and the feedback movement is almost perfect James from WMAS was patient and always answered the phone and all my questions an expert dummy maker
What kicking or punching bag is best or you prefer, the hanging bag that usually is used in boxing and kickboxing or the free standing kicking bag that you fill the base with water or sand that’s usually used in Taekwondo and Karate Is the speed bag or the double end bag beneficial or just for boxing
What about the wooden dummy arms that you can attach to the heavy bag or punching bag or kicking bag, How about the wooden dummy arms that have the spring on them or the flat plank wall mounted wooden dummy that just has the arms The makiwara is usually used in karate but I think it can also be used in other styles I also think the wooden dummy could be used in other martial arts, not just WC Kungfu, the arms can also be kicks to the head or body you could block or represent a strike with some weapon for you to avoid and dodge
Question: KFG, I am watching an interview of you right now on another channel. In this interview you said that you are working on a documentary on Ip Man. Any update on that project? Thank you. P.S. What’s up, Dre? You need to be more active on Instagram 😁🤙🏻
Did Big Sean (RIP) ever say anything about concepts vs OG? Ted Wong simply taught what Bruce taught him. I believe other instructors have been inspired by Bruce and have used JKD as inspiration in their approach to martial arts
What do you think about the reflex bag, aqua bag, cardio fitness bag, boxing angle bag, boxing bar, stryk rxt-1, Century versys, Or maybe that yellow ball or hanging bag Jason had hanging on his garage in No retreat no surrender when they moved to Seattle, the tetherball RJ didn’t dodge, or all those hanging white sand bags when he was training with Bruce ghost in the abandoned house
Sifu Alex, great book! should you reprint your Wooden Dummy book or issue a second edition, would you consider offering it in the "lay-flay binding?" This would be a value-added feature and allow the user/reader to lay the book flat while referring to a specific page in the book while addressing an actual dummy. I will happily order this proposed 2nd version even though I already have an autographed version of the original release. Cheers!
Ah the old Original JKD v Concepts JKD argument, l personally do not practice JKD, my take on it is that Bruce said he no longer believed in styles, l could never imagine Bruce, had he lived, trying to learn and master a complete system of another style.
Another great episode KFG! Question. Do you believe in talent or talented people? Or is it a term people use towards people who train more often , the right way or for people who have a natural predisposition or advantageous genetics and again train the right way? Im somewhere in the middle where genetically gifted people for a certain pastime discover a liking for it and they both align with hard work. Sorry for long winded post in advance 😂
Loving the big trouble in little china vest and the weapon that the character thunder had in the movie behind the dummy. I you'st to have one of those standing spinning dummy's it was well made but pointless I felt like I got right taken on there 🤦♂️ And why would you be so excited to have Shogu suki on the podcast isn't he a bonafide bull shit martial artist. Loving the shows Sifu Alex your the Governor 👍🙏🏴 p.s. love the joke you said about T-Rex kuen do lol and all I could think of was imagine a T-Rex trying to chain punch 🤣🤣
8:48 The way I was taught.. on the moveable dummy, was.. we’d screw in properly.. then click the pegs into the correct holes.. and then because the dummy would move naturally, we’d put our PUNCHES or slaps where the dummy world recoil back. It would hit lightly enough to just stop it’s motion with your fist...
12:58 I’m glad you guys don’t use the “FLOPPY DINKY DUMMY” 😂lol. The LOP SAO thing with moveable arms. 😂
27:10 Ya. You shouldn’t be locked out before you land. I lock it out as I drive through. ❤
Dre having his Wong Jack moment, chain punching his opponent in the back.
LOL. BTW i never understood why Wong Jack-man didnt change his name in the west to Jack Wong. Jack Wong sounds badass.
26:00 What I do is.. I go to the gym and hit the heavy bag n do pull ups n dips. Rip the jong work. And tie it all together by slamming the bag in real time. I’ll pretend it’s go time. I’m trying to use the biggest slickest howitzer I can muster up SAFELY. So that I know my response capabilities
17:53 High precision instruments huh... 😎
Hey guys, when I visited Vietnam I went to this guy's home (his shop) to buy whatever I could that was small. He had WC dummies that were HUGE trunks (heavy wood base) that you could move if you projected correctly. Basically it was like a "wobbleman" toy, but you needed to have the right focus to move it. It was good to move around, but you'd need a trolley jack and two people to shift it. You'd have to see and feel it to believe it.
Very dope Sifu. Thx for shout out. Dig the new set up!
Conditioned knuckles bring all the girls to the yard! 💯😅
Haha
28:28 I use my body weight to FLING MY ARM FROM ME, only to flex and tighten up as it lands. Exploding a bit late causes a massive impact. What I mean about late is.. we never tighten things up until it’s gunna impact something worth it.
I didn’t even bother with the dummy until I knew all 3 forms by heart. Then I started looking cool deflecting on the jong. 😂😅
On the JKD question this whole debate "Concepts vs. Original" is really a product of the US MA magazine editors that pushed this controversy in the late 80s and early 90s as more Bruce Lee students taught publicly and opened with their teachings. Most of those arguments were fueled by students and students of students often projecting their own views and 3rd hand experiences on a very prominent martial art that is actually not widely available and practised in the mainstream martial arts community. Like the movie that everyone is talking about but few only have seen. Want to compliment and join Alex advice to try to understand both approaches, what they are offering and look into what the reasons are for this or that method, approach, attitude etc. To research your own experience to form your own opinion would be the JKD way to solve this dilemma. Great podcast, greetings to the entire team.
Inside Kungfu was good at using political drama to sell magazines
Having practised jkd for 37 years you go to seminars to learn jkd get taught Filipino kali silat Thai sikal maphilindo the concepts head has confused the jkd community the original lineage ted wong stuff took me years to find what Bruce taught never saw that material in jkd concepts seminars for 30 years
48:01 I really feel like people should know who to check in with if they practice wing chun or jkd. Meaning, who’s competent in the art? Who’s trustworthy? Speaking from experience.
I am all about your film fest NY Ninja movie, I want in!!!
24:46 Watched this one again with Jackie my Wifey. 😂We always tune in. That knuckle conditioning thing is stupid. I hate extremes. A powerful punch with alignment is way better. 💥😉🥊
27:07 agreed. I do my single hits locked out. I do my blasting a few inches short. Meaning I’d extend if the wall left for a second. My hand would reach out. But generally, for SINGLE SNUFFS. I’m long. Detached. Only thing landing is my pinky or bottom 3. 🤛💯
21:03 I fill mine with meat. 🤣
Great episode guys, thanks heaps!
YEAH, BABY… Chicken, water, and rice.
Oh wow! Neat! I was thinking that would make a great show! 😎🤛
Happy 83rd episode!
Many years ago, I built my own wooden dummy out of a large fence post. I had it outside and set it into the ground. I built a leg on it and some fairly long arms. But the arms didn't move (cuz I didn't know how to make them swivel).
KFG: “What do we got?”
Dre: “That was the question”. Pause… “That wasn’t a question”. Dre 🤣
I think there’s a Bob bag that has arms and stands on there legs,
Maybe a regular Bob bag and add the wooden dummy attachment that you can put on a kicking bag
59:45 STAVROPULO rules. I follow her.
Yes she’s great!
The Iron Master dummy looked awesome, but also seem as rare as a dinosaur🤷♂️
I got 7 of em 😎
I wanted one of those so bad
That was a good burn I had too 😛🤛
31:02 NO. 1. JERRY POTEET’s is the foremost authority on JKD other than DAN INOSANTO. Paul VUNAK is another one who has that distinction. Ted WONG was a part of it certainly. But these schools I mentioned were much bigger.
Awesome show! Dre needs to open a school near Morristown NJ :-). My question for consideration … if you where to design a total body work out what exercise would you do more of to help your Wing Tsun?
An important point in the purpose of the dummy is training footwork and position. As much as it’s overlooked in wing chun the situation is worse in choy lay fut where the vast majority think the main purpose of the dummy is some type of iron arm conditioning
This topic is a big part of my new wooden dummy book
23:15 ⚠️AGREED. Omgoodness. It’s like.. why would you need to do that amount or volume of work when we are fighting it seems quality is way more important than quantity, yet, they’ll smash their own hands. They’ll do endless rounds of wall bag punching. Problem is.. they don’t know how to land a shot while under stress, or scared. 💥🥊🤛💯
I appreciate your insight about training equipment. How about footwear? What shoes do you use for Wing Chun training? I have a pair of school-issued Feiyues but I’m a bigger guy and I find it difficult to pivot on a rubber mat surface.
I think I covered this in an early episode from season 1.
“And Dre is Awesome!” Dre
Imo....*Datu Kelly Warden* has created the 4th generation training dummy. The arms are opposable and it reminds me of if one mixed the heavy bag with the 3rd generation dummy into one dummy.
Although I'm not an instructor, I do have a training dummy...the body is metal and the limbs are wooden. I broke the leg at the "knee" of said dummy....had to make another leg 🤣. I gotta lay off the red meat 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for another great quality podcast Alex, Dre, TBG(that British guy), and Andrew.
Question when you spar in bjj do you ever find your self doing chisao or trapping during bjj grip fighting?
17:41 I sent you a video of IP CHUN taking about WILLIAM CHEUNG. He says the reason his forms n applications were different, was because he was the laziest in the class, and he just made that stuff up. He always said.. he was a closed door student of IPMAN. He says he was taught TRADITIONAL WING CHUN. That was his excuse. 😂
If this is true why was William Cheung considered the greatest fighter in the Wing Chun Clan of that day, this was the words of Bruce Lee, Wong Sun Leung and others who were there. Duncan Leung was inspired to learn Wing Chun from what he heard of William. Ip Chun is expressing jealousy IMO, as he wasn't there anyway during William's training years, he came later and trained with his father's students. Let's
have facts.
I have a Immortal Dummy ,had it for 13 years now its lived outside in my garden for 10 of them years, now inside, I use it every day and it's Still as good as when I got it 👍 👊🙏
It’s immortal
that Back massage
If you punch emotionally you’ll break your hand. If you punch like a good trained wing chun/jkd person should. You’ll be detached and sticking high velocity bones into them like spikes.
Is a wooden dummy still authentic if it doesn't have a sign on it saying "Don't touch"?
Hahah nope!
Thats not a 700 Lbs bag 😅
Wing Chun Dummies for Dummies? That should be a book title....You can start any human dummy on the toys early if they need something more to learn the basics, but how long does it take to show fluency? 3 or 4 years of hard training? What if woodworkers had to inspect a clients skills first before they would sell us a Chong? HA! I wish these intemediate students would stick with air dummy drills and partner work, buy lessons from teachers instead of dead logs to hang on their wall. They cann't even punch a heavy bag with power, what are they going to learn from solid wood? The Dummy itself is a great tool and can be used on the first lesson but how long can a student train in WT WITHOUT NEEDING it? That was how the "ten year to start dummy" concept was presented to me, "Why do you need the dummy?" (3 years on each form with over lapping practice would get us to ten years.) As you mention in your book, the "secrets" would have been in the BT and Dummy, so it might take a decade to earn loyaltity.
I made my own Wooden Dummy when the time came. Great exercise of the hands and leg adduction using a hammer and chisel goat clamped around a log. I have a tree bole and some oak limbs ready for my student to make his own with my help pretty soon. I measured the drawings in the Golden Covered booklet, and the photos in the Kuen plus I knew an old secret about the arm angles. I got it pretty good I think. We are going to measure it and compare to your diagram in Book 5.
29:23-To make it clearer, you need the sandbag work to develop the WT punch as you so eloquently discribed, and when this technology is achived WT punches can stop on contact as a skill. WT Thrust Punch requires this training; hitting HARD in the same patterns we use SOFT in partner training. We do need the minimium skin thickening to survive the body conditioning we do against the Wallbag though, but NOT the stuff Iron Palm does... It is a paradox, an example of a fundemental confused as an end result (Footnote 65, "Seeking the Bridge," Richter, 2019). We use the fist to train the power of the whole body on a solid surface, but the strike in application might be a chop or Erect Palm or Biu Tze,.....no fist at all. The Bone does not chase the Dog...
I also punch trees in the park, and made special gloves to protect my handbones, but the impact energy is what is important, from the fist out the foot. The hands do not need to get ruined in training and should not be. The progression is not to get harder materials inside the bag, but to move onto hitting a heavy hanging bag, fixed dummy and later a full Wooden Dummy. The wall bag is the same as a glove, a thin layer to protect the finger and hand bones. We have a wide variety of materials to use today in this area...
Wish I had your book 20 years ago when I bought my Immortal dummy. I shall console myself with the knowledge that it recycled a lot of plastic in its making.
Hahaha it’s ok, I have a PVC dummy somewhere from my teen years.
I got my dummy from warrior martial arts Supply it's a free standing with the box in the back I ordered it with 2 striking pads and 3 spring arms with 1 additional 18" spring arm it arrived in 3 months and i paid $1819.00 and I've never regretted my purchase the wood is ash and the feedback movement is almost perfect James from WMAS was patient and always answered the phone and all my questions an expert dummy maker
What kicking or punching bag is best or you prefer, the hanging bag that usually is used in boxing and kickboxing or the free standing kicking bag that you fill the base with water or sand that’s usually used in Taekwondo and Karate
Is the speed bag or the double end bag beneficial or just for boxing
Great episode
What’s up to the crew.
And shout out to the Jack burton shirt!!☝️
Wing jitsui I like that wing chun boxing for stand up bjj for on the ground that's what I do
Great combo defo great
What about the wooden dummy arms that you can attach to the heavy bag or punching bag or kicking bag,
How about the wooden dummy arms that have the spring on them or the flat plank wall mounted wooden dummy that just has the arms
The makiwara is usually used in karate but I think it can also be used in other styles
I also think the wooden dummy could be used in other martial arts, not just WC Kungfu, the arms can also be kicks to the head or body you could block or represent a strike with some weapon for you to avoid and dodge
Question: KFG, I am watching an interview of you right now on another channel. In this interview you said that you are working on a documentary on Ip Man. Any update on that project? Thank you.
P.S. What’s up, Dre? You need to be more active on Instagram 😁🤙🏻
Are there any Kung Fu schools near Deltona Florida area?
I’m in Kissimmee a couple times a year but only for private lessons
@@TheKungFuGenius how can I book a private lesson with you?
Links are in the description of every episode!
www.citywt.com/private-wing-tsun-lessons-online
@@TheKungFuGenius Got you man. I'm learning soo much about tradition from you and Dre.
Did Big Sean (RIP) ever say anything about concepts vs OG? Ted Wong simply taught what Bruce taught him. I believe other instructors have been inspired by Bruce and have used JKD as inspiration in their approach to martial arts
We had a lot of conversations about this topic, luckily many of them were recorded on our podcast.
Have you interviewed Mark Hatmaker ???
I have not, but I love his books!
I can’t guarantee he would do the podcast but I can connect you with Stephen’s people and then put in a personal word with him.
Where can I sign up for Dre’s Way? 🧐😋
Am voting for a Wing Chun for Dummies book by Alex! Will buy that. (And i don't even practice WC!)
Did you ever train in any of the Northern Style Kung Fu?
What do you think about the reflex bag, aqua bag, cardio fitness bag, boxing angle bag, boxing bar, stryk rxt-1, Century versys,
Or maybe that yellow ball or hanging bag Jason had hanging on his garage in No retreat no surrender when they moved to Seattle, the tetherball RJ didn’t dodge, or all those hanging white sand bags when he was training with Bruce ghost in the abandoned house
Genius-Jitsu Ryu Do.
Man… i was hoping they’d talk about the song, “Wooden Man” written by the great Elton Jong. 😔 oh well.
Dre's ways super dope 👌 🙌 prayer hands
I like!
Sifu Alex, great book! should you reprint your Wooden Dummy book or issue a second edition, would you consider offering it in the "lay-flay binding?" This would be a value-added feature and allow the user/reader to lay the book flat while referring to a specific page in the book while addressing an actual dummy. I will happily order this proposed 2nd version even though I already have an autographed version of the original release. Cheers!
Ah the old Original JKD v Concepts JKD argument, l personally do not practice JKD, my take on it is that Bruce said he no longer believed in styles, l could never imagine Bruce, had he lived, trying to learn and master a complete system of another style.
Yeah man you answered. Thank you! I always share your podcasts on my social media. Love yall. Man everybody is named Chris it seems like.
Another great interesting video.
Another great episode KFG! Question. Do you believe in talent or talented people? Or is it a term people use towards people who train more often , the right way or for people who have a natural predisposition or advantageous genetics and again train the right way? Im somewhere in the middle where genetically gifted people for a certain pastime discover a liking for it and they both align with hard work. Sorry for long winded post in advance 😂
Loving the big trouble in little china vest and the weapon that the character thunder had in the movie behind the dummy.
I you'st to have one of those standing spinning dummy's it was well made but pointless I felt like I got right taken on there 🤦♂️ And why would you be so excited to have Shogu suki on the podcast isn't he a bonafide bull shit martial artist. Loving the shows Sifu Alex your the Governor 👍🙏🏴 p.s. love the joke you said about T-Rex kuen do lol and all I could think of was imagine a T-Rex trying to chain punch 🤣🤣