Randy, thanks for all your videos! Running 36 v charge at battery 41.2 charge . Remote says 65 v and then says low voltage. I have ran this setup for 8 months no problem. Power pole charge stop working and didn’t notice until several hours on the water. Battery was still 35 v never went to sleep. Now just say low battery and volt meter says 41.2.
Yes and no. I understand what you’re saying. But volts and Amps are tricky to explain. 36 volts requires much larger wires or they get very hot. When you crank up the speed on a 36 volt there’s a lot of current going thru those smaller wires. Battery recognized the problem and shut off.
This is true. That's why the super high voltage lines running between poles is not huge. The limiting factor is current. Conservation of power is observed. If i double the voltage i will draw half the current and the power will remain the same. Wire gauge is rated by the maximum current it can safely carry. If you go to a higher voltage you can reduce wire size. Power is voltage times current in watts. So 24volts x 10 amps is 240 watts. 36 volts x 10 amps is 360 watts. However 36 volts x 6.6 amps is 240 watts ... the same power as 24 volts at 10 amps. So at 36 volts i can run at 34% less current but have the same power output. I don't know the engineering in the force trolling motor and I'm sure the power is supervised by dedicated circuitry but there is no reason that i know of that you would need bigger wire to go to a higher voltage. They have a table that shows amp draw for the 24 and 36 volt configs and it clearly shows a reduction in current at 36 volts over 24 volts. This is Garmins own literature. www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/forcetrollingmotor/EN-US/GUID-9BEB843E-2C2B-450E-B9B2-F4C9F29D0C2E.html Its quite possible there is something i don't know ... that I don't know and I am not trying to disrespect anyone by any means. It just seems a little odd to me that a bigger wire size would solve this problem. Anyway thank you for all the excellent information.
Great informative video !!! Hope you do more videos of screenshots with WHAT AM I SEEING discussion... they provide great clarification and super learning tool !!! Keep up your great work !!! Thanks much !!!
We have bought a Garmin Force t m. Planning on livescope t m mount like we have been using. Will this be a problem on spotlock. I like the convenience of searching with foot control. Your opinion please??
Quick question, did the Ionic app say what state or if anything was wrong with them before you woke them up? I’m curious I just purchased Ionic’s too. Thanks
Lithium iron phosphate batteries have a battery management system (BMS) that protects the cells in the battery from getting too hot, overcharging/discharging, some BMS protect against low temperature charging probably not a problem for the Gurus location etc ... Definitely a good thing to get the most life out of your batteries. When you were running 24v was that with the lithium batteries or lead acid? I swapped out my 10 year old lead acid batteries for lifep04 batteries 109 lbs lighter with more useable capacity. I'm currently using 8 guage wire @ 24v sounds like I may need to upgrade another great video very informative!
Hello, how are you my friend? I have an Issue like your too, but now mind can moved right or left, but the prop not working, not move at all, it’s dead now, so what I gonna do? Please help me
Show us what your settings are on the Force for spotlock because mine will not hold a spot for anything I’ve tried running my anchor gain up and down calibrated compass many times it doesn’t come close to my Ultrex for holding a spot
I had that problem too. called Garmin... they sent me an upgrade to the collar near the head. put it on and found that the original collar had come out of it's slot. without the groove being in that slot, it will not know where it is pointing. Hope this helps.
Randy, thanks for all your videos! Running 36 v charge at battery 41.2 charge . Remote says 65 v and then says low voltage. I have ran this setup for 8 months no problem. Power pole charge stop working and didn’t notice until several hours on the water. Battery was still 35 v never went to sleep. Now just say low battery and volt meter says 41.2.
36v trolling motor actually draws less amps than 24v and 12v draws more than 24v
Yes and no. I understand what you’re saying. But volts and Amps are tricky to explain. 36 volts requires much larger wires or they get very hot. When you crank up the speed on a 36 volt there’s a lot of current going thru those smaller wires. Battery recognized the problem and shut off.
This is true. That's why the super high voltage lines running between poles is not huge. The limiting factor is current. Conservation of power is observed. If i double the voltage i will draw half the current and the power will remain the same. Wire gauge is rated by the maximum current it can safely carry. If you go to a higher voltage you can reduce wire size. Power is voltage times current in watts. So 24volts x 10 amps is 240 watts. 36 volts x 10 amps is 360 watts. However 36 volts x 6.6 amps is 240 watts ... the same power as 24 volts at 10 amps. So at 36 volts i can run at 34% less current but have the same power output. I don't know the engineering in the force trolling motor and I'm sure the power is supervised by dedicated circuitry but there is no reason that i know of that you would need bigger wire to go to a higher voltage. They have a table that shows amp draw for the 24 and 36 volt configs and it clearly shows a reduction in current at 36 volts over 24 volts. This is Garmins own literature.
www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/forcetrollingmotor/EN-US/GUID-9BEB843E-2C2B-450E-B9B2-F4C9F29D0C2E.html
Its quite possible there is something i don't know ... that I don't know and I am not trying to disrespect anyone by any means. It just seems a little odd to me that a bigger wire size would solve this problem. Anyway thank you for all the excellent information.
Great informative video !!!
Hope you do more videos of screenshots with WHAT AM I SEEING discussion... they provide great clarification and super learning tool !!!
Keep up your great work !!! Thanks much !!!
Some really cool 2 screen stuff coming
Need to upgrade the conductor to a thicker piece of wire. Electricity ⚡️ is tricky with longer runs and higher voltage
I upgraded to 4 gauge wire. I’m definitely not a electrician guru. 😂 I need all the help I can get for aure
Good to know. Just bought one for my boat.
Hope you enjoy it!
I have thought about switching to lithium batteries. Good info I will be making a mental note.
Yes sir
Nice work, thanks for posting.
Hello Guru, good information
Thank you so much 🙂
Hmmm. Good to know. Thanks bud 👍
No problem 👍
That's awesome information
Glad you think so!
Have you ever had your motor come on and turn but not run the prop?
Sounds like a sheer pin. Just a guess
That is good to know
Yes sir
We have bought a Garmin Force t m. Planning on livescope t m mount like we have been using. Will this be a problem on spotlock. I like the convenience of searching with foot control. Your opinion please??
Yes it will. I always recommend a motorized pole of some brand
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Such as?? I’m not up with this.
Quick question, did the Ionic app say what state or if anything was wrong with them before you woke them up? I’m curious I just purchased Ionic’s too. Thanks
It didn’t show a draw until I woke them
Lithium iron phosphate batteries have a battery management system (BMS) that protects the cells in the battery from getting too hot, overcharging/discharging, some BMS protect against low temperature charging probably not a problem for the Gurus location etc ...
Definitely a good thing to get the most life out of your batteries.
When you were running 24v was that with the lithium batteries or lead acid?
I swapped out my 10 year old lead acid batteries for lifep04 batteries 109 lbs lighter with more useable capacity.
I'm currently using 8 guage wire @ 24v sounds like I may need to upgrade another great video very informative!
Hello, how are you my friend? I have an Issue like your too, but now mind can moved right or left, but the prop not working, not move at all, it’s dead now, so what I gonna do? Please help me
Might need to pair your foot pedal again.
Show us what your settings are on the Force for spotlock because mine will not hold a spot for anything I’ve tried running my anchor gain up and down calibrated compass many times it doesn’t come close to my Ultrex for holding a spot
I’ll do one soon.
I had that problem too. called Garmin... they sent me an upgrade to the collar near the head. put it on and found that the original collar had come out of it's slot. without the groove being in that slot, it will not know where it is pointing. Hope this helps.
Stupid question: here goes. Do I need to update my gls 10 and transducer, or are updates for head unit only?
Any new update will bring everything current
What gauge wire did you replace before the 4 gauge? i.e. What was the original wire gauge?
I’m thinking it was 8 gauge.
Was about to ask this same question. I run 6 gauge and have never had an issue.
I'm running 6ga and am having the same problem. Left me with no troller twice. I'm running the icons as well.
I thought Garmin recommends 2awg.
Just going off what Garmin told me
Can I install gt56 sonar in Garminforce?
You hall to cut on the skeg