HERETIC II - THE LOST RAVEN
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Lost but not forgotten, Civvie looks at Heretic II, an old jumpy shooty game from Raven software that deserves better.
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E1M1 and E1M5 Music from Heretic composed by Kevin Schilder
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Thanks for this awesome video, I had a great time working on this game (I did most of the AI, pathfinding, some staff combat and some player movement stuff). And you're totally right, the player movement and combat were absolutely the prototype for Jedi Outcast, which we did in 10 months (for that one I did the lightsaber combat, the force powers and the Jedi/Reborn AI). We brought over the player animation system from this game into our Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force engine and lightsaber combat was born. These are some of my favorite game development experiences.
Wow, surprised there's no responses. Heretic 2 and Jedi Outcast are two of my favorite games, specifically the melee combat. Thanks for your work!
Nice bro!! Good job.
Thanks for your work and effort, I have very fond memories of playing this game as a child
I spent endless hours playing in JK:JA multiplayer. Up to present times this is still the combat system imo. Thank you for your work!
Shame that your work is not being developed further -- it would be amazing to polish it and to get rid of the quirks produced by unstable connections and liberately introduced network lags for some new games!
Jedi Outcast practically babysat me through the summer and even an entire winter break.
I like the fact that "The Hero" defeats "The Evil Mage" while he is monologuing.
they never learn.
Morkalavan as he's ascending:
"You sly dog!"
It’s all in the reflexes
Mr. Incredible: He starts monologuing?
Frozone: He starts monologuing!
It's a must-do for villains.
And Raven Software, never developing, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Activision just above my chamber door;
And its eyes have all the seeming of id Software’s that is dreaming,
And the COD DLC o’er it developing throws its license on the floor;
And Raven Software's soul from out that license that lies floating on the floor
Shall be creative-nevermore!
That's way better than what I would have done. Kudos, sir.
This made me cry...
@@Civvie11 Thank you. But in the end it just made me sad writing it...
A rare treat to see something as clever as this in the youtube comments section.
You keep a bust of Activision in your chamber ?!
Oh mannnnn that's a real blast from the past. Heretic II was the most fun I ever had making a game. Glad you enjoyed it! :-)
hi, you've worked on some of my favorite games over the years... if i remember correctly, it was you who gave shadowlord and myself (rogue rodent) some tips with our h2 siege ogle mod. i was also the modder who made the zombie town maps.
in recent years i've been teaching myself c sharp to use with the unity engine, where i intend to recreate some of my old h2 work. suffice to say, you had a huge influence on me.
Patrick Lipo you made that game?
@@peterdes6792 he was the lead designer and coder if i remember correctly.
@@rattyredemption That's awesome. I appreciate the nod! I can't believe it was so long ago. Glad I could provide some fun to life!
C# and Unity is where it's at. Keep it up, coding games gets more doable all the time... I am a designer these days and don't even code full time, but I've been able to have a good amount of fun in my spare hours! I wish I could dig back into that Heretic 2 code (or actually Jedi Outcast, that was my favorite engine of all time)
I would indeed agree! Unreal or Unity, they're both really approachable. And I'm not particularly great at math myself. :-)
I gotta say, that's some real quality cinematics for a '98 game
For reference: Raven was thrown into the COD mines because they REALLY screwed the pooch on Singularity super-hard. (Searching for "the confessional singularity" should bring up an article with all the gory details.) Combine that with seemingly nobody buying Wolfenstein 2009 until people started making videos about it being underrated, and they kinda *had* to make Faustian bargains to keep the doors open...
A good article. I haven't played Singularity but I wouldn't doubt that it's at least a competent game even with the problems it had. I still don't think they deserve the COD mines but it's better than nothing.
Huh. I wonder if Neversoft suffered a similar fate, what with the ports of CoD: Ghosts more or less being their swan song?
Neversoft and the ghost of Infinity Ward apparently worked together well enough on Ghosts that, combined with the decision by Neversoft's bosses to retire, the decision was made to merge the two studios together. Since they were working on COD games, the Infinity Ward name was kept, and the Neversoft eyeball was, uh, doused in petrol and given a viking funeral at the tip of a flaming arrow. Really!
Searching for "the confessional singularity", gets me a "Free mature mom boy video gallery" result. Nice!
THE ALGORITHM knows what you were _really_ looking for
Congrats on making a video about a game without a sewer level.
swamps are just open-air sewers
@@TheKins I dunno... I feel like aqueducts or some kind of man-made architecture is required.
But this is a fantasy game, so I'm sure all bets are off.
@@TheKins no. sewer levels are sewer levels.
sewers are full of people poo. swamps are full of animal poo. qed; swamps are just sewers for animals
@@OKNewman Ahh yes. Aqueducts. The cathedrals of sewers!
Late to the party I know, but I wanna give props to Daniel Riordan - the voice actor for Corvus. He *nails* his lines. Excellent delivery, and a level of performance he brings to all of the games he's appeared in.
I thought I recognized his voice and realized he voices Dr Jiminez in The Evil Within as well!
@@TooMuchSascha I knew him instantly from Age of Mythology. No one else delivers lines with that level of camp and confidence. Except Bruce Campbell, but that's a given
“Sidhe” is, indeed, pronounced “Shee”.
It’s Celtic. It’s also why there’s no “v” in Siobhan.
(Siobhan = "Sha-vonne" for anyone wondering)
Irish person here; “Sidhe” is pronounced “Saive”, and in “Siobhan” the “bh” is pronounced as a “v”.
Ah yes, because using letters like everyone else agreed to is boring, the French would approve
@@Neo2266. Who are these "everyone else", and when was this mystical linguistic conference at which the laws of language were codified?
@@Hypperzz2
English, german, spanish, slavic countries... most languages that use this alphabet tend to use it in the same way apart from a few exceptions like the letter “J”
But whatever the first comment says is... unusual to say the least
"I KNOW WHO I AM! Are you the healer?! Will you help me?!"
Not gonna lie, that line is the best well-written line I ever heard.
I always thought Corvus was a cool protagonist back when I first played this game... now I'm starting to remember why.^^
- Are you El Greco, the doctor??!
- No, I'm the fucking painter. (c)
I WILL NOT FALL TO THIS!
I feel he is a little too aggressive here, although I understand he is trying to cure himself and everybody else of the plague and save the world and he's on a bit of time crunch, but again speeding up things is okay, just don't be a dick about it.
@@someguy2744 I think it's more frustration with everyone who meets him going, "Gasp! You're Corvus!"
Like, imagine if every person you met was like, "Oh my god! You're someguy2744! I've heard of you!"
I mean, I'll bet that happens to certain famous folks, and I'll bet it gets old _real_ fast.
Fun fact, my favorite artist, Gerald Brom, Did the art for heretic, mageslayer, Doom 2, Diablo 2, and I think one of the elder scroll covers before Morrowind. He is pretty awesome.
I knew Gerald Brom was awesome, but did he do the art for Doom 2? I thought Kevin Cloud managed the artwork after Tom Hall left ID
@@Kevin5279 nah, he did the cover art for doom, anything else must of been in game and by the sprite artists, the cover is solely broms
@@poofoo5471
Ah I see that makes sense. The cover artist gets overlooked a lot of times. I've been a fan of Brom's work ever since I played Heretic 2. Thanks for the info
"...and a plague happened. That s*** sucks man, I know"
Remember 2019 when this was a joke instead of just how we live our lives now?
Just don't waste toilet paper on making a makeshift mask, cuz it will NOT stop the virus.
The best way to combat this is with a healthy state of mind. Think rationally.
If you panic, you already lost.
@@ThumperMinerUnion I read that with Civvie's voice, like he's doing a real life play-through/review lol.
“The joke wears thin when it mirrors your reality.”
-Max Payne.
Yeah this plague is anywhere near the doomsday ones and video games
Thanks Obama
"One eighty-ninth of the puzzle has been solved."
I've never been past the first level, and that's going to give me pre-emptive nightmares.
When i was a child, always got stuck in the Seven Portals on Hexen, because i had no idea what to do.
When people these days complain about stuff like In Verbis Virtus with its bunch of corridors and like 3 locations you have to do stuff in in some order, I recall that game and chuckle to myself.
I feel like that's a joke tbh
Me too. I got so lost in that level, I almost erased the game out of anger.
Whoosh?
"Why did it work for you and not me, why?!"
"You're not a dish. You're a man."
Ad break was perfectly timed.
Ay good one, I was just gazing at it across my shelf.
A damn shame how Actvision has relegated raven to map packs, tis a cruel fate
@singular on1 ayy that's my job, sure, thinking of making a video on digital devil saga
They don't actually make map packs, that was a joke. They're like a fourth CoD studio now, and somehow managed to ruin a game from 2007.
@@noway9320 As if Activision doesn't have enough developers for this one series. Nintendo has a lot of companies working on Mario, but at least they have them work on different _kinds_ of games in the Mario franchise (Mario Kart, Mario Party, Luigi's Mansion, etc.) with lots of heart and soul put into them, and don't just mass-produce an endless stream of 2D/3D platforming games that are almost identical to each other.
Rest in pieces, Raven Software. May you one day spread your wings full again, away from Activision's cage.
amen to that :'(
They had a good run. Not many do.
If we want to free them we need to bring down China’s government which will be the catalyst to the freedom of a lot of things
Flyyy on your wiiiings like an eagle 🎵
gotta say, the voice acting in this game is unexpectedly good
that bit with corvus losing his shit from being infected got me good
Minority119 ikr
It gave me Legacy of Kain vibes.
seems some of the voice actors that worked on VTM:R also worked on this.
@@LiveLongAndProsperHonestly YES, for a moment I thought Corvus was voiced by Simon Templeman, although I checked and he isn't.
Most impressively, it seems only 4 actors worked on this, voicing multiple characters each.
The Ogles cheering after killing a goon was adorable.
"and a plague happens. That shit sucks, I know."
That aged well.
we all do know, now
Im having a blast throwing shit through store front windows!
"Rights issue between id and Activision" This one as well (hopefully)
*PRO JEDI KNIGHT II: JEDI OUTCAST WHEN?*
Gotta do Pro Jedi Knight first. Which is exciting. Can't wait.
One day you'll have to play Daikatana. One day.
ONE DAY.
HE'LL PLAY, HE WILL DEFINITELY PLAY
It's only a matter of time. Everyone's gotta Daikatana sometime.
Not much that needs to be said about it other than it's a quite good oldschool shooter with some fairly bland to some great level design. I guess if anything it could use some more people admitting that it's not a bad game in any way (save for a few bugs that are gone with the unofficial patch).
You mean the GBC version not PC version?
:3
its good with the 1.03 patch that makes the NPC characters obsolete.
How long until PRO JEDI KNIGHT, civvie?
I have come to this comment 3 months late but I believe this man is 10,000,000 percent correct and we should listen to him
I can't even begin to tell you how much this would blow my fucking mind.
We gotta do this right, Civvie must do dark Forces I and II first
@@ReeloBuruk21 I was speaking about Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight. Dark Forces is actually a pretty standard doom clone with fairly uninspired level design. DF2:JK is definitely where its at.
Why is this comment thread so new on a comment so old and why am I reading it.
Oh FUN FACT, Corvus Voice actor is ALDUIN in Skyrim and a certain warlike Kllingon in Star Trek TNG
Pretty sure it's actually Calculon.
Starscream "warlike klingon" gee that fucking narrows it down
@Jeremy Adam Mungal Yeah that's him
Well he did play Duras but that was in Enterprise, not TNG (in which he had a minor role in a Season 1 episode).
and mario
"... And a plague happened. That shit sucks man I know" - Civvie 11 Feb 4 2019.
*Monkey's Paw Curls "Oh you will fool... oh you will."
"...a plague happened."
ummmm...
"Yeah, suck it, Hitler! You aren't my real dad!"
I think you just summed up the pitch meeting for New Colossus.
I read that right as he said it. That hit me.
Alex Dilley I haven’t played New Colossus, but please tell me that isn’t an actual plot point of the game.
Don’t forget the diversity and communism propaganda.
@@Jay_Sullivan Yeah, get out with those politics in a game about killing Nazis.
@@stefangadshijew1682 clearly a modern nazi invasion would be a completely apolitical event
Sidhe is the 'shee' part of banshee (bean-sídhe), the ghostly apparitions that scream in the night before someone's death in Gaelic folklore. On its own it basically means 'fairy'.
*bean*-sídhe lol
Hey guys this guy is s NEEEERD
Nah there's a d in that word that's how I'm gonna pronounce it Gaelic isn't real
@@Civvie11 thats the spirit. We cant let the nerds be such smartasses ey
I love you
Holy shit, the graphics look like Morrowind pumped on steroids and cranked up to 11.
Years before it came out!
Look at Morrowind with TruForm. That are some truly nice models
To Civvie 11.
The ghost shrine is only in multiplayer. Makes you semi transparent much like the first Heretic's shadowsphere
This game had multiplayer?
@@QuadratusTiberium It kicked ass for the brief time it was alive too.
19:00 "why does a bug have titties. this was years before Deviant Art" Jesus christ. I could feel that burn 1,800 miles away.
(February 6, 2019)
Heretic II Single-player, Multiplayer (Heretic II.iso) size: 2.64 GB. A pre-installed/updated version of Heretic II.
If you just want to download a playable pre-installed/updated version of Heretic II, or give it to someone else so they can download it... here is the link below.
*Note: The zip file is too big to preview. Just click on the down arrow at the top right to download the zip file.
download link:
"drive.google.com/file/d/1NiRiktuVUoryZo7iHm_BJ6UB0LxwJZ-z/view?usp=sharing"
"Heretic II Single-player, Multiplayer (Heretic II.iso)" is a copy of the game already pre-installed and updated to the latest version with all the latest new maps, etc... Also, Included is a copy of the original Heretic II CD-ROM, a "cloned Heretic II cd-rom bootable image" that can be burned onto a blank disk.
This is a working updated Windows version of Heretic II that works for (Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7-10) and uses a new modified version of "Gamespy3D" that works only for "Heretic II".
Just extract/unzip the "Heretic II zipfile" from the iso and move the" folder to the correct Windows directory.
"C:\Program Files\Heretic II" for Windows XP/Vista or "C:\Program Files (x86)\Heretic II" if you are using Windows 7/10.
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Now you have the original Heretic II game fully updated with all the maps,textures, etc... and installed on your computer.
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Heretic II Single-player, Multiplayer Game: [PC] [ENGLISH] [FULL] Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7-10.
(fantasy,action,adventure,magic,multiplayer)
What's included: In the "Heretic II Single-player-Multiplayer.iso"
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1) This is the full CD Version of Heretic II already installed and updated to the latest version with all the latest maps, etc...
2) Heretic II "CloneCD" CD-ROM bootable image that you can burn on a blank disc (English version) for Windows XP/Vista and Windows 7,8,10).
3) Video Monitor Resolution tweaks.
4) Spirit Shrine Official Heretic II Walkthrough.
5) Heretic II "English to Spanish" Game Menu_fix.
6) Heretic_II Manual.pdf
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Note: Read the text files included.
* Use Compatibility Mode: Windows XP Service Pack 2, 8-bit (256 colors).
* Note: Allow Heretic II and Gamespy through the Windows firewall to play.
*Router UDP/TCP Ports to open (27900, 28900, 28910 and 28911)
link doesn't work anymore :((((
I want a new link too :(
@@Whyexes Hey, I downloaded this and tried to run it, but it doesn't open anything. I am using Windows 10. Would love to play this beauty once again!
@@TheHarperad Heretic II pre-installed and updated zipped (1.64 GB)
download link:
drive.google.com/file/d/1cwes5fYGzObJe3OJ3qNBSAlBtA1XNqCg/view?usp=sharing
*Note: Just unzip to C:\ drive
*Note: You might need to start the game and bring down the console window (~) key and type in (set cd_nocd 1) and then save config. It will work without the cd.
*Note: Remember you still need to install DirectX6 or better on computer to play Heretic II.
*Note: Allow Heretic II through the Windows firewall and restart computer to take effect.
(Comes pre-installed with all the maps, etc... and the Mods: “Emod, Tmod, and THF”).
absolutely based
thanks, man
wow thank you for video , unofficial patch is my creation =)))
Thanks for making that patch. I was quite disappointed that nobody bothered to make a source port for Heretic II. Your patch comes quite close to one. Hopefully Activision gets bought out by Bethesda and then we can finally see this series being revived
@@Kevin5279 ZeniMax is getting bought by Microsoft, and buying Activision-Blizzard would probably be considered a monopoly. All ZeniMax really needs to do is buy the Heretic/Hexen rights since Activision sure as shit won't be doing anything with them.
@@Bauglir100
Yeah, a parasitic corporation like Activision has no business owning the rights if all they're interested in is playing water carrier for CoD. They don't have any plans for any of the other Raven franchises either so it doesn't make sense if they own the rights
@@Kevin5279 Yeah. If Activision wants money so badly, they should sell the Heretic/Hexen rights to ZeniMax. They're making less money by sitting on the rights and doing nothing with them than they are selling them to someone that _will_ do something with them.
I kinda like the idea of an end boss telling you to fix all the shit he broke as he floats off to something much better 🤘
If he could fart on his way out of the room that would pretty well top it off 🤣
Sounds like a real world boss, in my experience.
@@xplinux22 i was thinking more like the Fable games… and Borderlands, Sudeki , FF7 and the grand king of them all Armored Core Project Phantasma (with all humoplus upgrades) with the world crumbling because you became the 9 Breaker
"it lacked the soul of former ID games" *romero looming in the background*
He is always watching...Waiting, for the proper moment to *strike* ...
I get the feeling with Bethesda and now Activison/Blizzard now being under the Xbox brand (as insane and scary as it sounds), there's a possibility that this game could get re-released?
I love Heretic 2... They should make a new badass Heretic 3 game.
There is a glimmer of hope now that ID has bought Activision
@@Kevin5279 Despite being a huge fan of Heretic 1 and 2, i don't think there will be another game. I'm afraid that "Heretic" is a name buried in the past, sadly. Some of us fans go visit its grave sometimes, but today's kids wouldn't care about this series.
@@pureweeb Sadly, you are right...
@@pureweeb fuck today's kids, they play awful mobile games. Relase a 3rd installment of Heretic and I'll gift a copy to anyone I know over 25. Okay, maybe one to my nephew, so he learns how to play a game instead of goofing around in Fortshite or GTA V
These regular uploads ,civvie is making us spoiled
Das is good brother, feed us more!
from what I can tell it's every Sunday around 1 am central time
@@dirpyturtle69 i hope
Civvie makes me look forward to mondays
Heretic: showing that even elves can be manly.
No pretty boy elves here. Only BUFF FEY. Once Corvus gets done doing weighted pullups and murdering slave drivers, he's going back to motorboat some bug tiddies because that's what POWER ELVES do.
@@BigPuddin how u doing radchad
@@valentinom.4292 Ah, you know, man. I'm okay. Not as rad as I usually am. So so today. How 'bout you?
@@BigPuddin I hope you recover your radness. My day has been very dull.
@@valentinom.4292 I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your day gets more interesting.
The Ogles cheering after killing a goon was adorable.
"Suck it Hitler, you're not my real dad" is the funniest joke. We've done it! We've completed humor!
TNC sure made things rough. MachineGames really should have ended at TNO+TOB.
I don't get it. Can you explain?
Check out Strife. It’s like a proto Deus Ex and I think the last retail Doom engine game.
Did you say proto Deus Ex? I'm interested.
@@Orange_Swirl It's more Doom than Deus Ex tho. Still pretty good. Ross Scott did a review on it if you want to see what it's like.
@TechnicalTortuga There have been source ports for years to play Strife. I believe the "Chocolate" releases are just straight ports of the DOS version to Windows. Some people enjoy the original version of a game since many source ports add new features and fix bugs.
@TechnicalTortuga Hopefully someone will convert some of the source ports like ZDoom to Xbox One. The only limitations would be that it has to be purely 64-bit and use DirectX for rendering.
Gods yes, YES.
Pro Strife: Quest for the Sigil when Civvie?
I really wish you had Pro videos about Hexen and the original Heretic.
Come on, Civvie. Do it. DO IT.
We need Pro Chex Quest first.
HEXEN II
Wishes granted.
*Gets set on fire while and sees a water fountain*
Civvie: "I think I should run around until these flames go ou-"
*DIES*
he he, i was thinking the same.
I wish this game was on Steam
FINALLY someone else who doesn’t give a shit about the Strogg. I thought I was the only one.
I'll have to open this elsewhere. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
:D
I spat out my drink laughing, the timing was just too good.
American McGee's Alice when Civvie?
Damn. B4 LOTR, when elves used to have square chins and protruding jawlines in cut scenes. 😂
It is so great to see the former developers of these games stopping by to say hello. Many thanks to all of you. The fact that people play your games even decades after release, making mods for them, porting them to new systems and making videos about them is the ultimate testimony to your success, even if the sales at the time were not as convincing. Take it as a well deserved, even if delayed satisfaction for the great work you did.
I just recently found this channel, and you've been doing my entire childhood games (almost). It's Winning, man. Duke, Blood, Quake, Doom, Heretic II, Shadow Warrior etc etc. It's amazing. Good job,
Awww man, I played this so much during my high school years. Civvie 11, I'd expect a real "Pro Heretic" or "Pro Hexen" series now!
Yes, I like Hexen quite a lot. *Roast me* :D
@@dirpyturtle69 Wow, that's both an original and timely reference. I'm proud of you, son.
@@dirpyturtle69 Brokeback Alexei lol
Hexen was dope and such a fun coop game. Deathmatch unfortunately was not on par with Doom or Duke 3d though.
Can't roast you, you do have a point. Plus, I like Hexen more than this.
Fun fact: Corvus has some idle animations, one of them is an animation of Corvus scratching his ass
Another fun fact: this game is T-rated, even though it has gore and some brutal death animations... did you know that harpies will rip Corvus’ head off?
What was that funky ass beat near the end? I think it might be from Interstate '76 soundtrack but I'm not sure.
See for whatever reason I remember owning most of the fps’s available on the system at the time, and I remember that in both Hexen AND dikatana, I NEVER BEAT THE FIRST LEVEL. Now 20 years later, I watch in shame.
Twidgette Trefry Haha, dumbass, I completed Hexen and Hexen 2 without any help. I love how these games are basically IQ tests.
I was a QA tester for this game at Activision. I was assigned to test the game on the hardest difficulty for singleplayer. I got to be scary good at multiplayer on this title, comes from playing it eight to twelve hours a day. Good times.
Well, that's it. I've now watched your entire available library. Started with Pro Doom, subbed immediately, and then just went from your DOOM movie review forward. You have been consistently funny and insightful. I'll be doing what I can to spread your videos around to my friends.
Funny, I played Mageslayer. This game was on a CD collection of pirated games. In the nineties, in Russia.
Actually never heard of this game
@@bastionaudio me too
Me too, do you happen to know the name of the disk? I've been looking for it everywhere.
I've never heard of this game. Looks cool. It like the game "Gods" on the Sega Genesis, just a little bit. You passed Mageslayer?
@@WestMan_Nik It seems not. But I played shit out of the first levels)))
Quake II was really amazing good, and also Quake2XP is worth playing it again today.
Mageslayer is an okay game, the top down makes it special because it uses a modified Quake Engine: The Vampire Engine.
Hexen was indeed to chaotic to play with all these puzzles, but the graphics and atmosphere are very nice.
Hexen 2 was better but still to much puzzle.
Heretic I like(d) very much, beautiful colored medievil levels and awesome weapons.
Heretic II was indeed one of the best 3rd person hack 'n slash/shooter of the nineties, a shame it was so short.
Nice video !
18:00 does anyone remember the "Challenge Accepted" meme?
HOLY SHIT I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT FUCKING RAGE COMIC FACE WAS FROM SUCH AN UNDERGROUND SOURCE
I remember a version of it that JonTron did, if that's worth anything. IIRC, he did it in response to a challenge issued by Grant Kirkhope, and then the Techno Medley version of Grunty's Lair intensified.
Sidhe is an irish word referring to the faefolk who supposedly inhabited ireland before humans came and displaced them. Pronounced "See", and in antiquity often written as "Aos Si" or "Sith".
Is it true they only deal in absolutes though?
@@colewest7096 given that they are fae, yes, definitely
@@Yominication Ironic.
Not that the information isn't cool, but this is another daily reminder that the Fey and their courts are all cunts.
I was so, so disappointed when i heard how badly this game was selling. It's my favorite Q2 engine game and I still endorse it as a lost gem. Glad to see it get a proper review on youtube finally at least!
Just imagine if Blood had cutscenes as good as the ones in this game. It would be even more amazing than it already is.
Ok, do you take suggestions? Three letters, MDK. Very different in style and tone from the Build/Doomclone lineup, unique in its own way to this day I'd say. Also, gggman hasn't covered it. I know, because I've been heckling him for it since he had 1K subs. MDK is awesome and all the yunguns need to know.
Seconded!
Isn't LGR's review good enough?
@@Soldado94aliasUnit594 No.
MDK was a BLAST back then, now...Its to GEOMETRIC to me
I still play MDK every now and then, awesome game.
Activision Blizzard is being bought by Microsoft! Raven and id are finally under the same roof, with Roundhouse Studios for good measure! So we might get a new Heretic/Hexen after all these years! :)
3:37 not anymore....
Well, when the deal closes anyway.
One step closer to the full classic fps timeline of Doom, Wolfenstein, Heretic/Hexen, and RotT
That song that starts playing at 21:46 is pure fire! Thanks for adding it in the description my man! I'm listening to it as I type this. Your taste in music is first class. Artist: DJ Williams, song: James River.
That CG is lit for its age. I also loved this game when it came. It was so much fun.
I got three words for you, son: KISS. PSYCHO. CIRCUS. And then three more: THE. NIGHTMARE. CHILD.
I didn't realize how much I wanted this until now. Please Civvie. It must be done.
I got one word for him:ARACHNI-CLOWNS.
A GOOD SHOOTER
Hm..."Heavy Metal FAKK 2" would be the appropriate follow up to Heretic 2, though. No idea if that video maybe already exists, though.
Ohhh....the memories of endless hordes of enemies and crazy monster designs.
Also everything is a Kiss reference.
“Fix everything i fucked up, K BYEEEEEE”
watching in this in the timeline where microsoft now owns Both Raven and iD and Phill Spencer even stated that he would bring Heretic and Hexen back along with other older iPs is a magical feeling
*C I V V I E I N E E D S L E E P*
Hey man, you can stop the burning if you roll while on fire
This game had some really thought off mechanics. I've played this game since 2001 and I sometimes still find some new things even in my recent playthroughs
FYI, *civvie got a shoutout for this video on AMID EVIL's GDQ play-though around the **15:00** mark!*
well done civvie! finally getting the recognition you deserve *༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽*
GDQ can Gaelic my balls
Nice use of snes indiana jones music
Thanks for this awesome video, I had a great time working on this game (I did most of the AI, pathfinding, some staff combat and some player movement stuff). And you're totally right, the player movement and combat were absolutely the prototype for Jedi Outcast, which we did in 10 months (for that one I did the lightsaber combat, the force powers and the Jedi/Reborn AI). We brought over the player animation system from this game into our Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force engine and lightsaber combat was born. These are some of my favorite game development experiences.
6:14 is one of the most 90's sound effects I've heard in a while.
Is that Arkantos from AoM playing the elf?
Yup!
21:01 - 21:06 is exactly my reaction whenever I get the all too common "This door is opened elsewhere" message. XD
Well, Raven and Id Tech are both owned by Microsoft now...
My favorite game from Raven was Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force. The single player is one of the best Star Trek FPS games ever made. However, where it really shined was it's multiplayer. Quake 3 gameplay. Star Trek next gen weapons with alt fire, strafe jumping, map making tools.....great stuff. The multiplayer scene started to get pretty thin around 2008, but it's multiplayer is still my number one pick for any multiplayer FPS I've ever played.
Pro Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force I and II when, Civvie?
Ensign Monroe!
Heretic II's ending is right up there for one of the worst video game endings of all time, leaving the player confused and without a feeling of proper closure. Probably the only other game that tops it, in that regard, is Clive Barker's Jericho.
Heretic II is definitely one of those overshadowed gems, though, so thank you for this video.
If you think that this ending is bad enough, look for an ending for Drakan:Order of the flame, where the game suddenly ends without proper closure. Or even worse, The Precursors, where the game literally ends by a phrase: "Don't you want to solve the mystery of the Precursors?". Literally the game trolling you as after this phrase the game ends with credits (and you won't even stop bad guys from doing what they are doing).
In Heretic 2 we can at least see Corvus stopping the plague by finishing the spell.
One of the reasons why the game just didn't tick with me compared to the Serpent Riders Trilogy back in the day.
You should see Anonymous Agony. That game has an insulting ending.
Dope Fish Lives
The real Icon of Sin...
Holy fuck I remember being a kid blowing up everything with storm bow so many memories
The raven flew into the darkness...
And disappeared like a drop of water in the sea.
Korax does ride a giant snake-like creature. While it's not shown in Hexen.. You can find it in Hexen II's game manual on page 11. You will see an art piece of Korax riding some creature.
While we're on the topic of Unreal-engine based fantasy shooters you might as well do Wheel of Time next, ya boomer
Is it just me or is that one way more overrated than Hexen for example?
It's atmospheric and has some cool enemies, but overall it just seems to be too linear and the whole base of the special item mechanics is pretty vapid. You just walk along from hurdle to hurdle, that each just has an item pickup right before it that enables you to instantly get past it.
@@JohnnyNatrium It was a decent second tier game, I just thought it would be fun to watch a vid about it
I might have to replay Wheel of Time. I couldn't make it out of the first room in the game and felt kind of stupid for not figuring it out.
i love this games art style, i wish more games would embrace the classic fantasy art style
I had wayyyy to much amusement out of the Dranor gag, 10/10 video as per usual
Anyone know where to “legally obtain” this game for free?
As a friend and mentor of mine once said, there are two ways to acquire software. Legally, and EXTRA legally. And no, I dont know an extra legal way to find this game.
Ya read the comments on this video. One of the top rated is a Google drive link to an iso of the game
Cambone13
Yeah I’m not seeing that anywhere.
@@Laxhoop here you go, its like 10 comments below us
drive.google.com/file/d/1GOHFeHF6sRGZqkN1ll9Vhy1743t9qgXK/view
*Note: The zip file is too big to preview. Just click on the down arrow at the top right to download the zip file.
Heretic II Single-player, Multiplayer (Heretic II.iso)" is a copy of the game already pre-installed and updated to the latest version with all the latest new maps, etc... Also, Included is a copy of the original Heretic II CD-ROM, a "cloned Heretic II cd-rom bootable image" that can be burned onto a blank disk.
This is a working updated Windows version of Heretic II that works for (Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7-10) and uses a new modified version of "Gamespy3D" that works only for "Heretic II".
Just extract/unzip the "Heretic II zipfile" from the iso and move the" folder to the correct Windows directory.
"C:\Program Files\Heretic II" for Windows XP/Vista or "C:\Program Files (x86)\Heretic II" if you are using Windows 7/10.
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Now you have the original Heretic II game fully updated with all the maps,textures, etc... and installed on your computer.
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Heretic II Single-player, Multiplayer Game: [PC] [ENGLISH] [FULL] Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7-10.
(fantasy,action,adventure,magic,multiplayer)
What's included: In the "Heretic II Single-player-Multiplayer.iso"
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1) This is the full CD Version of Heretic II already installed and updated to the latest version with all the latest maps, etc...
2) Heretic II "CloneCD" CD-ROM bootable image that you can burn on a blank disc (English version) for Windows XP/Vista and Windows 7,8,10).
3) Video Monitor Resolution tweaks.
4) Spirit Shrine Official Heretic II Walkthrough.
5) Heretic II "English to Spanish" Game Menu_fix.
6) Heretic_II Manual.pdf
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Note: Read the text files included.
* Use Compatibility Mode: Windows XP Service Pack 2, 8-bit (256 colors).
* Note: Allow Heretic II and Gamespy through the Windows firewall to play.
*Router UDP/TCP Ports to open (27900, 28900, 28910 and 28911)
Cambone13 I’m dumb so I’m not doing this
I have tried to play this on my modern Windows 10 laptop, but it almost always crashes during some sort of underwater platforming sequence. Are you using any patches/other software to make this run nicely on your modern machine? I really need to know because I want to play this again...
Civvie11: "And a plague happened. That shit sucks man, I know."
Me, watching this in 2022: We ALL know, Civvie.
Well, in between losing Destiny and Bungie at the same time, most of their execs jumping ship, their stocks plummeting and their own investors throwing a lawsuit at them, Activision isn't in the best position right now. So.....hopefully that issue with Heretic will be resolved in the end.
With the recent Activision buyout by Microsoft, there *should* be hope.
Otherwise...
"Quake 4 wasnt bad" glad I wasnt the only one who liked it
I like it too, old school and the fighting is fun.
@@Levelworm dont forget the stroggification scene. Gave me nightmares as a kid
It was good but definitely not on par with Doom 3. One of Quake 4's biggest problems was multiplayer. It's hard to sell games anymore that don't have good replayability.
@@dennisanderson8663
Exactly. And one of my qualms with Quake 4 was that it felt too much like Doom 3
@@Kevin5279 Doom 3 was an amazing game in terms of story mode but even that game unfortunately suffered from subpar multiplayer. I definitely felt Quake 4's story mode was worth a couple plays but I couldn't really get into the story. I never really played Quake 2 much and obviously Quake 3 had no storyline. Considering how good Quake was known for multiplayer after Quake 3, I just can't believe Quake 4's multiplayer flopped.
18:02 holy shit is this where the meme was born?
Yes
Oh man Wolfenstein 2009 was amazing. Loved every minute of it.
I love Hexen! I like Hexen 2 and Heretic more but I do enjoy it. I have Heretic 2 somewhere around here but I haven't played it yet. I hate what has become of Ravensoft. Activision is among the worst devs these days, they used to kick ass in the Atari 2600, Colecovision, and Commodore 64 days, but then so was EA and they're assholes now too. I'll have to play this one now.
And speaking of 3rd person games of this period, what happened to Drakan: Order of the Flame? I still have the disks of the game but I haven't seen it anywhere since I beat it many years ago.
Well it is very big surprise from you. You swear to the machine spirit you are the most fun to listen when it comes to describe old-school shooters. Also I love the fact that voice acting in the old-ass was better than in modern films. Anyway good job. The best old-school gamers i have seen for a while.
And also, Civvie 11, do a Daikatana next. I heard about this atrocity but it would be funny to hear your opinion about THIS game. Or atleast do Blade of Severance.
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I tried Daikatana recently with fan-made patched and gave up quickly, and I played a dozen of mediocre, bad or average games in my life, but this?
Severance - Blade of Darkness is a masterpiece, not some rolling fest in Souls universe...
Truly one of those games that i would mind if it would get the sequel or full remake. Gore system and fair but hard balance were the brightest sides of that game. And with all respect for Dark Souls but those aspects are the things that DS series did not achieve even in the last game. The closest in fun of hack and slash (or just slash) the enemies to pieces is RUNE but it is more fast paced than SBoD and less tactical which is another very good game i guess.
Rune is the one about a viking, right? It's pretty simple compared to SBoD (and at least seems pretty short), nothing complex like Severance's combos and more restricted movement but it's fun. Another simple 3rd person hack and slash game that I really liked is the first Bloodrayne. It's a little bit different with its abundance of guns (that you drop once they are out of ammo) but your main way of dealing with bad guys should still be close combat. The only problem with recommending it is that the first short tutorial chapter is pretty BORING. But once the player is past it, the game improves significantly, in my opinion. It's just so fun to run around playing a half-vampire killing machine that can actually terrify her enemies. It has a pretty nice dismemberment system too and I like how there are many situations where you find different groups of enemies fighting each other. Also, Bloodrayne 2 improves the graphics, adds more depth to the combat and platforming and manages to screw up by ending up way more boring than the first game. It's still bearable and okay to play with some breaks here and there but way worse than its predecessor. Too many stupid repeating puzzles, the platforming feels somewhat stiff and the enemies are way less fun: in the first game, you have the likes of Nazi soldiers with guns pissing their pants when up against the protagonist and you can understand why, in the second game you often get human punks fearlessly trying to punch a night monster lady with their bare hands after she chopped the rest of their buddies up with her arm blades.
I actually like Hexen more than Heretic.
The puzzles in Hexen kinda sucked, but man the weapons and monsters were awesome.
@@KojiroGanryuSasaki Yeah. I do acknowledge that, plus the level design. Seven Portals is responsible for a lot of bad first impressions.
Which is a shame too because Hexen brought to Doom modding the Hexen map format and most importantly ACS.
So in an ironic twist more Doom mods have been made using these features than Hexen mods.
Without any doubt, Hexen is significantly better than Heretic.
Its biggest flaw was the confusing map-puzzle design. There's no denying it. Everything else was an immense improvement, though.
The enemies, weapons and map design in Heretic were bland, uninspired and badly conceptualized. Nothing seemed to have any rhyme or reason. Very difficult to get immersed in such a design mess.
It was really just "Doom" with a fantasy theme that lacked a concept.
Hexen added a lot of atmosphere, with stuff like tree leaves blowing in the wind and ambient weather effects. Places and creatures matched with one another...at least more so than before. Using the weapons was far more satisfying and the 3 classes added variety to the gameplay loop, since you needed to adjust your tactics.
Heretic makes it easier to get through the game, due to its linearity but that is the only objective advantage I could think of and it's more of a flaw for people who prefer a non-linear world design.
I would also add that "Hexen II" was a below average game. There was barely any enemy variety and you'd always only get about 2-3 of them per room. Combat was slow and cumbersome. You'd feel like playing the geriatric grandparents of the Hexen protagonists, going from the first game to the 2nd.
I wouldn't call them "puzzles". Just the ordinary classic FPS fare.
Real puzzles were in "Realms of the Haunting". (awesome game, btw)
Hexen II is way superior to Hexen I. Design-wise, atmospherically and creatively. Much more hardcore combat. Especially on highest difficulty. You actually have to think, plan and even calculate - not button-mash.
It's only flaw was poor lighting system and certain missteps in weapon scaling (which are manageable). And, there Hammer of Thyrion now.
However, with certain improvements, mods - the full potential of Hexen I gameplay can also be realized. Which still loses power to it's sequel...
9:12 - "And a plaque happened. That s*** sucks man, I know." I had to pause to check the date on this video. A full year prior. Man, you had _no idea_ .
Ghost shrines are multiplayer only. They are basically give you the Shadowsphere from the first Heretic.
I think I'm gonna give a playthrough for Heretic II.
D'Sparil's voice actor earned his paycheck. I also like how they actually tried to keep the opening cutscene consistent with the first game, though the arena looks a bit different.