The 3 Types of BLUFFER. Which one are YOU?
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
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📜 Video Description 📜
When it comes to bluffing in poker our students fall into three main categories. Which ones best describes your relationship with bluffing.
I realized I was an attached bluffer when I came back to poker and started learning about backdoor equity and it's relevance. I would bet the flop using back door draws as my reasoning and I'd be all in by the river even though none of my back door equity came in lol.
If youre interested in RAA you might be interested in LEJ Brouwer. He invented constructive mathematics, which has as a consequence of it's structure the effect that RAA is not valid, due to not accepting Principle of the Excluded Middle as an axiom (PEM is that for any given proposition P, P is either True or it is False, there is no other (middle) option). Hilbert apparently dedicated a large portion of his time to discredit Brouwer, so revulsed was he by the thought of losing proof by contradiction. There's a quote of him that says something like "we will not leave the paradise that Cantor has given us" (I'm paraphrasing from faulty memory)
I think I can be any one of these three kinds of players. When I am experiencing adversity and afraid of losing a pot I can become the timid bluffer, but when I am confident and money is not much of a problem but at the same time I don't want to just throw it away I understand that bluffing is necessary and I become very much the calculating kind of bluffer. I definitely feel like I'm playing my best and can feel it when I'm doing this. It's much rarer that I feel like I need to find a bluff I just can't let go of this hand i've already put so much money in I gotta take a shot at it. No that's not so common but that definitely happens sometimes.
You forgot the randomizer that just roll random frequencies
Sounds like your objective is to roll.
I'm attached to the 1 big blind I limped in with so I jam any 2 on the river.
I am a contious attach bluffer (personality is a timid bluffer). I am now really overbluffing but it is really against my inner person. Nice video thank!!!
Pete, Greed Theorem approach is only best if an opponent calls theoretically correctly, yes?
I understand the math of being called less often, though bigger pot... works out that the bigger bet/called less often is more profitable than being called more frequently with a smaller bet
However, if opponent folds more than theory to big bets, and calls correctly to smaller sized bets, or overcalls - Then taking the Greed Theorem approach vs them would be incorrect, yes?
It's just I often see people going for the really big bets in certain spots, where opponents just aren't calling to bets of that size as often as they should be - And then the player justifies the huge bet, more or less saying "Greed Theorem bro, look it up."
As far as the q9 hand, I think it's a good spot to bet big, people are very sticky in that spot even to slight overbets
That’s a good exploitative point. In that case, play super exploitative and bet smaller with ur value and bigger with ur bluffs and print. When they catch up u re adjust that way your bigger bets will yield max value at higher frequency it should!
@@NoLongerGrilling True, yes. There's some spots where if you go 2x pot, or 3x... and people are supposed to call certain 1 pair hands, that they aren't, unless they're either very studied... or just crazy and don't know any better. (Funny how the two align sometimes). And I'm finding that in my games too, people are overfolding vs the disgustingly big bets, and calling too frequently vs small bets
@@jeegee-cx7ssmaybe go for the grossly big bets instead of the disgustingly big bets, see how that works.
@@jeffshackleford3152 Will mix in an abdominally foul bet in there too, see how it goes. lol. But yea, you'll see spots where the solver is like, "Shoving here is a couple big blinds better than going a pot size bet." ... then you'll look at the hands that the opponent is supposed to call with vs the shove and recognize straight away that no one is calling enough vs the shove but perhaps overcalling vs the pot size bet
@@jeegee-cx7ss I agree with foul bet as well.
GTO is about being balanced, so if we want to play a GTOish strat we should mix foul, disgusting and gross bets, at a frequency.
I started using the fold equity way since watching you. I'm timid when i don't know, but i know more and more these days when i can bluff, although i'm undoubtedly still underbluffing all over the place.
But i'm playing tournaments, so it's hard to know the correct answer a lot of the time. Still really hard in cash games for me too, but i would argue slightly harder in tournaments for a player equally skilled in both, which i am not.
When I’m on my A game definitely objective. But when I’m tilted I can fall into the trap of not wanting to give up.
I’m definitely attached, I hate losing pots but since I started reviewing my hand history I realize some are not meant for me to win regardless of how I play.
Great video, personally i lean towards attached player whenever i'm not playing my A game, especially on a downswing, i get impatient and go for unecessary and sometimes just bad plays
Acceptance is the answer to all of my problems
I'm definitely a timid bluffer but I'm playing in the microstakes with so many calling stations...
I need to work on finding more spots to bluff!
There's also a lot of nits overfolding at microstakes , you're just making excuses to not bluff...I get it I'm timid bluffer at heart I always gotta be mindful to not fall back into those habits
Self-diagnosis: Timid player gradually shifting to an objective player due to mental game work and Carrot Corner.
Excellent work Pete!
9:30 The math doesn't check out. If you have ~90% equity on the river you aren't winning 100% of the time when called. You're winning a smaller percentage of the time when you get called by villains 40% range vs his 50% range. He's folding out the 10% extra that's definitely beat.
Huge attachment bluffer here, need to work on it
The only argument i can come up with vs the first hand is people like to call a lot on bricked draw boards.
Hey clark. On the q9 hand. Is b75 on the river also okay?
I'm somewhere between objective and timid.
Good stuff! Timid here for sure
Hope I get to buy Pete a pint at WSOP (pint of Calibre if he is in anti-alcohol mode)
I think im mostly objective bluffer but there are times my timid nature takes control. Like that is my first hand at the table they wont believe me and such nonsense. Or i 3betted wide the guy already so i shouldnt do this again and such ones
I want a cookie!
Off topic but oh my god 1/3 live is so soft
Mirabile opus