Songbird Destroys Everyone For Betraying Her Scene - Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty 2023
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- Songbird Destroys Everyone For Betraying Her. Scenes from Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty game 2023 that I have recorded and edited by myself.
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Songbird: How could you betray me?
Also Songbird: Betrays everyone.
They started it by forcing her to help them
@@williammoutchia9292 Just like she forced V to help her.
@@3rdHalf1 Which happened way after they forcing her to help Myers, they could just have just arrested or treated her like a skilled netrunner without getting involved with the blackwall...
@@matheusdiefenthaeler5342 Still betrayed her.
@@ionutbalta6607 Songbird betrayed Myers? Of course she did.
Songbird is literally Walter White here, lying for herself, but lose her cool when someone does this back.
This is the world of spying and covert operations. The name of the game is superiority. There's no such thing as fairness, hypocrisy or justice. Only the scales of advantage, disadvantage and the balance of both and neither. Songbird had the advantage and only whipped it out when we were about to fuck her out of her freedom.
that is a normal reaction. To have someone lie back to you and pull the rug from under you.
Let’s recap:
(1) Songbird betrays V by promising the cure for both of them knowing she will only cure herself.
(2) Songbird betrays Myers by guiding SF1 into Hansen’s clutches.
(3) Songbird betrays Hansen by hiring an outside merc (V) to be a wildcard proxy.
(4) Songbird betrays Alex by ratting her out to Hansen and getting her killed.
(5) Songbird betrays Reed seven years ago and again by escaping to Tycho.
Also Songbird: “two-faced snakes, all of you!”
Well that quote is clearly when the blackwall is affecting her given her voice lol, but really, V is the only one she actually betrays and it's not as though she doesn't feel bad about it. She tells V the truth in her most vulnerable moment in the other path, Myers/Alex/Reed all blackmailed her when she was a kid and Hansen is Hansen
She's clearly under the influence of the blackwall corruption and likely cyberpsychosis (like Johnny says) when she says that. Basically, all of her most negative traits and feelings are being amplified much like roid rage. So while she does feel very betrayed and angry (anyone would if their plan doesn't work), I think her way of thinking is being strongly influenced by the blackwall corruption, hence why she says that with such hatred and in a possessed way.
Everyone besides V kinda deserved it.
The audacity songbird has calling V two face... V is the victim here.
it's the blackwall talking not songbird
You would be surprised how many women actually do that
@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZoh shut up
@@Tsumefan2How much of it really is the Blackwall? Can we really just account all of her words as the Blackwall’s?
@@Quantum1244 Yep, all the blackwalls fault. My So Mi would NEVER EVER manipulate me like that.
Anyways, I'm near the end of the dlc. Just about to help Songbird go to space. Wish me luck!
Tbh i picked to help her just so Alex could survive. Reeds is just a puppet, a sleeper agent who can't let go of the past. Alex wanted to get out but Reeds stayed in the system like Goro did because he didn't know anything else.
I did that but honestly should've picked reed. You'll see once you complete the dlc if you care about V's survival that is.
@@Emory_2004 I feel like the opposite is true actually, the phantom liberty ending for the game is in my opinion the "Only V has a happy ending" ending.
You survive but you are forever powerless to help your friends and loved ones by yourself. V could've saved Vic and beat up any zetatech goons, helped Misty. And the city in general but in that ending he was out for two years and is powerless from there on.
Same i like alex
@@ranaku603 fair enough I see where your coming from V gets a crushy life in end and theres nothing wrong with that. However I feel Fear the reaper ending is the best ending for V he gets one last job from Mr blue eyes who claims he can cure V just wants him to do the impossible and do something in the crystal palace. Like how John wick was able to retire in the 1st film he did the impossible and got what he wanted. V definitely could die or mr blue eyes lied however V goes out in his own terms. But in the end all depends on your view as V like Dex said "blaze of glory or the quiet life" and nothings wrong with either just boils down on how you see fit.
@@Emory_2004 That ending is the worst ending by so far. You live as a nobody, everybody sold their principles, hell no, would rather have my V die. Everyone is a husk, it feels so off-putting, so omnious. Johnny's secret ending still the best ending, it seems like.
"How could you betray me?" Songbird wonders after she herself has constantly betrayed everyone. Go to hell, lady.
I’ve never seen people get so often at a video game character’s choices😂😂 calm down
@@williammoutchia9292 Buddy, you're here posting multiple comments simping for her. Look in the mirror.
That is false. You have played the story line where So Mi is a monster. If you save her you will see how Myers and Reed are two psychopaths of power. They just want to enslave SoMi and use her as a weapon. NUSA is the one experimenting with the Black Wall and using SongBird as a guinea pig.
Exactly! She didn’t give a shit if innocent people died - betray this bitch every time!
The thing is she's literally a slave and the blackwall is worse than hell
Sending her to the moon is a much shorter endgame but I have to say that betraying her and working with Reed was a lot of fun. Taking on Max-Tac then Cerberus (felt like Alien: Isolation the whole time you were stuck in the Militech bunker and I loved it, even the one-hit kills and the robot coming out of the vents like a xenomorph was so good!) and choosing to either spare her or mercy-kill was such a struggle for me. I liked seeing her memories and the scene inside the core. Getting to hug her and then hearing her beg to die gutted me. I think the best ending is freeing Songbird so she'll never be caged again. Oh, and I hope Myers gets nuked.
Idk why they made the "bad" ending so much more fun than the good one. Like, I think if they had made the new ending where V lives a much sweeter and positive ending, I would've given Song to Reed considering she betrayed you. V very selflessly saving her life after revealing her secret just feels off to me, knowing he technically gains nothing. Giving her away made sense to me. Song will live but she will be punished for her crimes, but then Myers would get what she wants and fuck Myers, no one likes her. In a way, I do sympathize with Song but I don't know her that well. Like, the bad ending where you get see her past worked so well because that's when I truly feel for her and seeing her dead or imprisoned by Myers is heartbreaking but thematically consistent imo. Saving her life after she betrayed you without seeing her side of the story fully feels off to me. Which is why I thought story and writing wise, the bad ending was so much better
@@jasonalv7436Oh I agree! The bond between So Mi and V felt more intense in Somewhat Damaged. It legit makes you WANT to fight for her even though you just did all of that planning and executing with Reed and Alex to capture her. I was hoping with all my heart Reed would defect from the FIA and pull off a great escape with V to bring So Mi to that ripper she mentioned. I know my V would've been on board 100% percent after seeing those memories in the bunker and the Brooklyn apartment for herself. It wouldn't have been too late to set Songbird free. Reed was just another Takemura. Didn't have the guts to do what it took in the end so in The Tower ending they gave him a dead-end desk job, left to wallow in regret over So Mi and V. Somewhat Damaged actually made me like the idea of V and So Mi as a pairing (trauma-bonding but so what?) as well. Like V can't just hold her like that and touch her face so tenderly and have it be platonic. But I digress, Somewhat Damaged is so much more fun, plus you get one of the best weapons/cyberdecks in the game if you side with Reed.
@@deusvmachina V and So Mi pairing would be.... very different from the ones we got in the base game.
"Reed is just another Takemura" is a good summarization, some people can't see it. Probably the accent lol. Also, I will always save takemura, I can take him cursing me any day rather than let him die, at least this way you're even with him, for saving you, but I'll never side with Arasaka, just as I will never betray So Mi even though a lot of us always thought this miracle cure was a lie from the start.
You get a chance to save someone who's in the same boat as you, perhaps even worse. Will you take it?
edit: ironically, I always pick endings that people generally think is bad, but I think saved a whole lot more people.
I fucking hated Somewhat Damaged, I don't want Horror in my fun game!
I don't know why, but I can't see sending Songbird to the moon as a good ending. Something about Songbird manipulating everyone along her way and getting exactly what she wanted seems off to me. Like it's not really what So Mi wants, but rather AI from beyond the blackwall pulling strings along the way to it's goal. Like with Peralez. I tried it as a second ending (after siding with reed for first) and I just can't feel it as a good ending. Not even because V is left with nothing, but because after seeing her flying to the moon I couldn't shake the feeling that I have done something bad, something is terribly off about the whole thing.
Can't put my finger on it, though.
I was honestly going to pick her because I heavily sympathized with her up to this point, but just before this V can let her know that her plan to turn all the defenses on in the stadium will kill hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent civilians. Songbird just shrugs it off and essentially says "oh well, at least I'll survive". At that moment I realized that she is what Reed said she is: a walking, talking nuke who has a history of being reckless. Myers may have made her a weapon and she's just as guilty in all of this but at the end of the day Songbird ultimately has a choice in what she does and she decided to kill innocents without blinking.
After this I was Reed all the way.
Yeah, the whole symbolism of her codename being "Songbird" and being caged wasn't lost on me; but I wasn't going to let a walking talking sociopathic nuke just do whatever they want. The Blackwall wasn't making all her decisions for her.
And Reed is what? Murdered the twins. Is a dog to the NUS and Myers who is willing to slaughter an entire airport of people. The point of the game is to show that nobody is truly good. Even V does some bad stuff and slaughters hundreds of people.
Yeah, that was the tipping point for me too.
@@GooblyWoobly69 Reed is actually trustworthy though, he's misguided and wants to save everyone but his loyalty to his country that gets people killed, he's a fool, but he's no liar unlike song.
@@kerrzUSR Doesn’t matter if he is trustworthy or not, he is a dog used by NUSA, and if u think NUSA is trustworthy, well…Song had to lie to everyone so she can survive, which is understandable, what wouldn’t you do for your own life? She told V the truth at the end because she feels guilty about it.
I got what IGN considered the worst ending. I sided with Reed and then killed Song. Personally, I think this ending is my favorite. People say it's a bad ending because more people die, but I think this ending is far better written and also more fun to experience. By siding with Song, V gets betrayed by her and you either save her life for no reason other than you're being nice or you would give the traitor up to Reed who will save her life but she will remain with Myers. But when you side with Reed, you realize how dangerous Song is and how much of a hypocrite she is for calling V a traitor. You then hate her for killing Alex but you promised Reed to save her life. You fight MaxTac which is fuckin insane then the game turned into Alien Isolation. Then afterwards, you get to see Song's past, this was the moment that I didn't hate her. I really really loved her because of these flashback glimpse. A scene I thought was severely missing if you had sided with her. You feel for her, and then once you have to make the decision to spare/kill her, killing her is an act of mercy. It'll piss Myers off and that's very good and Song will be free. If this game had no choices, I think this is the ending they should go for. Gripping as all hell. You also get to fight Hansen to avenge Alex. It's incredible dammit. Anybody wanna discuss about the game? Please do. It's still stuck in my head for a day now. My favorite story in the past 5 years
Somewhat Damaged was great overall, from start to finish. Bar Alex's death and having to choose between surrendering/mercy-killing So Mi. I prefer the Star ending so I'm biased haha. There's so much more offered in Somewhat Damaged than in Killing Moon and as much as I love So Mi, I think my third playthrough is gonna be a replay of my second where I chose to side with Reed except I'll mercy-kill this time and tell Myers to go fuck herself. I didn't accept the cure from the FIA after surrendering So Mi because I wanna ride into the sunset with Judy and Panam.
I was legit sad af for DAYS after Somewhat Damaged then seeing the new ending for V. I was in my head, too.
@@deusvmachina The moment I got the Somewhat Damaged quest and ending, I thought "Holy shit, this is probably a bad ending but why do I feel so much". It was my favorite part of the whole story. The spy action movie part was like a Mission Impossible film written so tremendously well and when Songbird goes Scarlet Witch, the tone shifted the moment Alex got her eyes gauged by Hansen. I literally paused the game and stood still for 10 minutes, just consuming everything. Also yeah, riding with Panam/Judy is the best Cyberpunk ending. I didn't like the new ending at all. It's far more depressing, especially after calling Panam. My heart just broke seeing all her missed calls and texts. Couldn't do that to the girl
there’s a lot of shit in ur analysis that isn’t true regarding songbird and her hypocrisy.
@@talpho3301 she called you a traitor for betraying her knowing damn well that she planned to betray you too by not telling you that the neural matrix will only be used by her. If you choose to save her, you literally helped her for the sake of nothing. Other than you're a nice guy. But I highly doubt Songbird is an innocent fairy. She's prolly done heinous shit under the Myer's wing. No one is a good person in NC
In my opinion, the only "good" ending is killing Songbird. Giving her to Myers alive condemns her to a lifetime of experimentation, and is done only so they can keep on messing with the Blackwall. Sending her to the moon saves her, but also gives her power to Mr. Blue Eyes, and we have no idea what plans that rogue AI has. The only way to keep humanity safe, at least for a little while, is to kill her connection with the Blackwall by killing her.
Everybody knows messing with the Blackwall is like playing with Pandora's Box, and I felt a responsibility to stop everybody from trying to play with it.
She is the one who betrayed everyone. She lured us into a very dangerous mission with false promises and yet she feels betrayed? I didn't think twice and handed her to Reed.
your no human
I chosen both options just to maximize my game-experience. Chad right here 🤭
@@husseinrahima6099 Unfortunately, lots of humans are like them. That’s why there are Arasaka and NUSA.
bruh the audacity to call V two-faced snake
The amount of dread I felt when she made that face from 2:02
"oh god she knows... SHIT is gonna hit the fan"
Bro same.. it normally takes a lot to scare me, but that look honestly made me regret my decision for a little bit
i think the blackwall is making her think everyone betrayed her
The bg trac is 🔥. The way its playing slowly is wicked af
I almost sided with her...until she revealed her callous disregard for everyone else who may get caught in the ensuing chaos. At that point, I figured the AI had taken too much control--I doubt the real Song Mi would've made that call...maybe.
Whether it was the AI or her, killing thousands of people like that is not something I would let happen.
if one lives a difficult life, wouldn't they turn callous ?
She killed captain Alex!
One of the greatest movies of all time.
commanda alex ....... noooooooooooooo
we finally know who killed captain alex
This is how we do action in Pacifica!
This is how we do action in night city!
Interesting I never betrayed Song Somi. But seeing this is a very different vibe. Very interesting ending. Either way its painful to see Songbird turn out like this. Awesome game though for Phantom Liberty. The story and music was just amazing.
3:26 The power that Songbird possesses could be something that Marcy/Nightfall could mimic with the Calamity Stones.
The SOUNDTRACK after this is the coolest fuckin thing I've ever heard
I picked this choice, do i have regrets? Sure. But like reed said "You play grown up games, you face grown up consequences"
Songbird: "Do you wanna play a Hitman game? or an Alien Isolation game? Choose wisely"
Songbird doesn't deserve sympathy.
based
She's a gigantic liar and selfish hypocrite. Someone said that if Dex looked like Songbird there'd be people falling over themselves to come to his defense, and that's 100% true.
World is not black and white. Cdpr writers understand and fully embrace that. That's why internet will be divided on songbird and that's called good writing.
@@channelthechanneljust a weird argument, you don’t know a lot about dex, but you know a lot about songbird and her past.
Also in that case why so many people empathize with Johnny when he killed tons of innocents people ?
@@channelthechannelThat is NOT true at all💀💀 remember how people reacted to the ABC options in gta 5? Similar situation, just with more than one or two characters involved. That alone proves you wrong
I like how Song is essentially a dark mage. Messing around with dark forces beyond her control.
goosebump
It's messed up what happened to Song, but she needs to be stopped. Not the way the NUSA wants to "stop" her, either. The most responsible option is to decommission her. Permanently. After all the people she's killed, it's more than fair. She's a nuke. I felt pretty conflicted, but I felt vindicated the moment I "betrayed" her.
I handed Song at the end to Reed. So glad Alex survived in my playtrough. You even get something from her later at your aparment☺️
Wait a minute, was her voice sounded similar when I did to Mayor Jefferson side mission, like it told me like ""we know who you are, we know what you are, do not cross the line"'? It make sense if this is true.
If you go with her she eventually reveals somebody in a suit, with dark hair and blue eyes was the one that got her a ticket to luna. And you can actually spot him in the distance watching. In the Jefferson quest you can see the same guy also watching in the distance. And in one of the base game ending before you go to space V actually talks to him. He's only known as Mr. Blue eyes. And people speculate he is AI. So if you send songbird to space she probably becomes another puppet (like Jefferson) to Mr. Blue eyes.
One of the few who knows. She’s for sure ai controlled in this. This isn’t her fault nor her doing this. The next game has gotta be based on the invasion of ai and the blackwall. Shits insanely dark.
that so awesome
Honestly this is such a more intense storyline than siding with her. I felt like I was in like a Dead Space mission when I had to go find her in the underground facility. Not to mention shes basically Scarlet Witch with her access to the blackwall. Fucking love this game.
Don't know about you guys, but this scene gave me the shivers
There is no rational reason why V should choose to betray Reed and trust Songbird at this point.
Reed is country first, and it's basically up to Myers if you get the cure. Cure existing in only one self-deletinf copy... Well, an unexpected turn.
i mainly selected the other path so that alex doesnt die
Rewatching this a month after completing this ending for the first time and wow, I remember Alex’s death being way more violent, like blood splatters all over the glass but I guess not (her screams are harrowing though)
Jesus Christ, those screams when Kurt was killing Alex..
nice👏❤
HA! Didnt know i pickedthe right option by accident lol
I like Alex and Song too much to go down this path, but my morbid curiosity got the better of me to at least peek. Sad I couldn't kill Hansen myself going down that path, but at least Alex gets a badass moment of doing it herself.
Shit makes me wonder how she couldn’t do that in the other path
@@rectze It's because Songbird warned Hansen about Aymeric/Alex via comms when she realized that V was uploading the icebreaker. Hansen got the upperhand. That's why V said "You killed Alex" and Songbird replied "No, you did, V. That's on you".
I wanted to help the NUSA... So I helped Reed and was punished with a psychological horror quest...
I spend several minutes thinking what to do in this choice, I thought helping reed might work, but he might hand songbird to Myers if she ordered him to do so, also thought that Songbird was way to powerful to submit to the ICE, and thought she would kill everyone if I betrayed her, also thought Reed wouldn't handle his end of the deal, in the end I chose to help songbird scape, as she knew exactly what was the deal with the relic, oh boy she screwed everyone around
I decided to betray her thinking that I would be helping her and if Reed didn't keep up his end I'd have full control with Songbird incapacitated. I was so wrong and proved what I was suspicious of Songbird for to begin with. She was being used and manipulated by A.I. I was extremely against her after the revelation that she breached the Black Wall. I just had an itch that she was being controlled by rouge A.I and I was right.
@@desertdude8274 I haven't fully played the betray songbird route, but to my knowledge she isn't being controlled by a rouge AI here or at any point during the story? She does this because she knows reed will give her back to Myers and she is right that is what reed wants to do. Songbird hasn't been able to trust anyone for most of her life and V is the first person she puts some trust in due to their similar situation, you betray that trust here so it makes sense she would lose control a bit, she has noone
@@thermicterror2951 The betray ending shines a light on how much the Black Wall A.I has an influence on her. That or she's run into Rouge A.I using the Black Wall protocol herself. It is said by slider that she is a problem because her intrusion into the Black Wall can cause Rouge A.I to invade the Net. In betray she exhibits cyberpsychosis. But look how much everything changes once you betray her. It's almost like it's not her. There are multiple occasions where she talks about the Black Wall wiping her memory. In Cynosure I also got the Canto Mk6 Militech cyberdeck and it proves that there is a construct that is able to directly communicate with you via the Black Wall protocol.
@@thermicterror2951 You are probably one of the few commenters on this video who actually understands what is going on and can actually see this whole clusterfuck for what it truly is.
@codyeaster290 a lot of people don't want to understand songbird. They can't get over the fact that she lies about the cure and will look to anything that justifies not siding with her, despite the game making it incredibly clear that she is not a bad person. I sided with songbird because I liked her, I thought she deserved a 2nd chance, and so when she revealed there was no cure for V nothing changed. I still wanted her to live and escape the hell she had been living. I think a lot of people sided with her because they wanted V to live, that's why they can't get over her lying to V.
It takes those who saw the doors of their cage to understand how it feels to be imprisoned. Understanding that your only way out is a crapshoot. But then you find a different way. In this case, it was through the blackwall. Guaranteed death, but with a chance to live… no matter the outcome, you will be free.
Others found death itself to be a perfect escape. I highly doubt this was the way the devs made the story for, but I understand how it feels to be trapped. If those trapped act like prey animals, then Songbird was a sloth bear.
When I betrayed her on my ps5 my game crashed when it was glitching. So I thought it was like a cool easter egg but no my game just broke 😭😭
i can fix her
Naaaaaaah 😂
Bro I literally feel like this is the thought process of everyone justifying she’s not a bad person. If she was ugly people would say she’s the main antagonist of the whole game 😂
@@Roonpuddleshe's a tragic figure and nah I even felt bad for Kurt.
@@Roonpuddle nahhhh reed is literally just another takemura, reed just serves a government rather than a corp
Na I was about to send her too the moon then she betrayed me😂 sent her right back to Reed
lmao @ "time to get wet." they did her so well.
I’m not sure if it’s meant to be that way but songs construct looks pretty sad and confused as she begins to use the Blackwall and says “really expected this to work”. And her yes also blink red until the construct disappears. It’s like the good part of her is getting shut down by the Blackwall in that moment
2:29 POV : when hello kitty girl gets mad
She betrayed reed first, she's a hypocrite. I'm leaving her alive.
Did you even pay attention to the storyline
@@rxm7874 Yeah, she betrayed Reed for the FIA, we do the same. So i'm leaving her alive.
@@vendetta3941She was tired of the coups, plots, schemes and backstabbing and wanted out. FIA and Myers’s wouldn’t let her leave so she was forced to betray them. Reed wanted to help her and would likely have joined V if not for Myers’s hit squad.
@@AuDHDNovaScotian31 She could've just went dark. She's a bartmoss, blue eyes, and alt level runner. You realy think if she went dark, the FIA could find her? 🤷🏽♂️
@@AuDHDNovaScotian31so that justifies her reasons? She’s clearly not right in the head.
Plot armor saves V here. Why didn't she just kill you lol. I did the save her ending and watching Alex slaughter Hanson was so worth it
She tried but relic preserved V from dying
@@addmen96ohhhh I see
So Mi has a moment of clarity in the bunker where she says something about never having wanted to hurt V. So I think she really held back. She could have killed Hansen herself at any point as well but didn't. People keep forgetting that every time she taps into the Blackwall, she loses a part of herself mentally. I think rogue AIs passed into her during this scene.
ETA: So Mi kept locking V out of some areas of the bunker and telling her to stay away. She didn't sound like herself.
@@deusvmachina Ahhh i see i see! The subconscious is powerful. She probably couldn't take the life of someone she saw struggling just as hard as herself on top of the fact that she knew she was going to betray him all along and couldn't truly blame him.
@@deusvmachina No this is her last try to manipulate V she knows that she have lost that all the lies have come to haunted her. If she really want to help V she should have stop the robot from the beginning but she let´s thing play out to see what is going to happen
wait so if you let the president die can you meet her or reed ever again? or can u just not kill them anymore
to be fair i never really felt any connection to Alex the bar thing felt "pointless" because there was no build up in relationships just "hey V come to the bar" you drink you hang out n she dances you might dance too if you're a cringe person but it really never left me feeling "yo we haz bonds n sheeet"
you know Kojima invented the videocall character system with MGS it's really weird how many games have been influenced by MGS.
Since when is it “cringe” to dance and relax? Not everything needs to be violence and explosions
V the robot mercenary: Wait! What I do!!
Also songbird: betrays reed and V.
@@vendetta3941 Sad but true.
@@vendetta3941for real and only admits it out of guilt at the end
@@zack7355 Which is why i'm handing her over the reed, and letting her live. 😌
@@vendetta3941not live, more like suffer
i believe the comments are from people who dont understand the situation of songbird. she is stuck between two options, using people, or dying to the blackwall. Myers forced songbird to bypass the blackwall and this was torturing her, gradually killing her.
she wanted to escape but FIA kept toying with her through scenarios where someone plays her savior while secretly are manipulating her into captivity. she is used to betrayals and she had enough, so she made a plan that includes crashing the plane into hanson captivity where she can run away, she contacted V, and later Reed tried to lure song by telling V he will free her by the condition V rendes song unconscious and bring her back, meaning reed used the same old trick he used on songbird but this time, he has V as the middleman trusted by song.
Why did i do it?
Because the music fuckin slaps
i wasn't too fond of alex throughout the game... her voice acting and writing wasn't great like myers... and i never even considered romancing her even if it were possible... but nonetheless, her death was the most "WTF!?" for me. it surprised and stung the most from the DLC
The fact the game doesnt just let you draw your weapon and off her at the end is what upset me most.
you turned your weapons in at the start of the mission
Cyberpunk players try not to be overly aggressive challenge (impossible)
Nah see this is why I killed songbird the first instance I could.
You did the right choice because you freed her away from those NUSA corpo losers
@@xjonnysorockyx I don’t care about that. I just wanted her dead. She was trying to zero me and betray me in anyway she could
@@whatsittoya4959 I feel you but couldn’t you tell she was also trying to fight the blackwall that was completely taking over her, she trying not to kill you but the blackwall was making her doing it.
i sympathized, she was in a life or death situation and her escape depended on a series of false promises
@@Some1Philosophy don’t care. She was using V as a pawn for her own survival and using V’s situation as leverage against them.
Ogólnie kiedy miałem tą misję na spokojnie to zrobiłem i uciekłem z nią ale potem wróciłem się przez zapis gry bo chciałem sprawdzić czy da się wejść jeszcze raz na górę i poklikałem losowe przyciski i właśnie ona nas zdradziła nie wiem co ja Przyciskałem no xD
Just help her and (Don´t Fear) The Reaper.
Everything else is just cowardly hoping for a better outcome wich will never happen.
"A happy ending? For folks like us? Wrong city, wrong people."
I ain't no simp, so lied to V from the very beginning and betrayed him afterwards, she was never gonna save V's life, V is just a tool to fix her mess. So mi betrayed reed twice and i ain't gonna be the third time he's betrayed, reed's been nothing but a brother so far. Plus you miss out on so much incredible gameplay for simping.
"two faced snakes, all of you". That isnt songbird talking anymore. And she isnt talking about V.
Sometimes it is said that betrayal, even if very cautious at first, eventually betrays itself. In the case of the Songbird, the campaign of this decision and the further plot, she realizes that she betrayed herself when she deceived everyone. And if we betray Reed, in the end we find out that we fooled ourselves by trusting our own reflection, when the conversation is about survival. The more you trust a person, the more he is tempted to deceive you. Never expect sympathy from your own reflection in the mirror. So this choice, betraying Songbird, for me, seems more reasonable.
Funny you say that. I betrayed Reed specifically because he reflected my Corpo V, pre-Phantom Liberty. A cold and calculated killer willing to set aside morality for cash or corporation, a slave to a robotic entity
Well, if we are a corporation, then yes. These solutions are more reasonable. And when I was a nomad and a street kid, appreciating honesty with everyone, hearing in the course of the action that someone constantly omits explanations, like there is no time, then it's different here. How to say: Mirror seduction. When I chose the option to betray Reed, I had this opinion, if we are not a former corpo.
When she “betrays”, she’s 110% being controlled by the AI. It isn’t her doing that. I think she gets some negative emotions and it makes her weak and the AI is able to tap in. I fucking can’t wait for the sequel to this game. It’s for sure gotta be based on the depths of the black wall and the ai taking over. Shits so goddamn dark. I love it lol
Isn't it classed as a form of cyberpsychosis? makes me wonder if AI have something to do with the cyberpsychos.
That's what I said in response to another comment on here about why she didn't kill V like everyone else in that room. She was herself one moment, pleading with V and asking why she betrayed her, then her voice gets all distorted and her eyes change. Her demeanor changes. I really think it was a rogue AI. I actually want next game to be post-apocalyptic! Like seeing the Blackwall crumble and having the AIs take over everyone with implants and stuff. Like Judgment Day in Terminator.
ETA: So Mi has a moment of clarity in the bunker where she says she never wanted to hurt V. Locking V out of some areas and telling her to stay away.
@@dragonquest8ftw1i dont think its about cyberpsychosis anymore. Ai straight up controls her body.
@@deusvmachina From what I can tell, she tapped into the blackwall in order to fight off the ICE, giving a rogue AI the opportunity to hop into her mind.
@@dragonquest8ftw1Probably, but it depends on which cyberpsycho. I’d say the Maelstrom girl who was in the broken bathtub
That's why I sent her back to Myers. She definitely needed to learn some more lessons.
Myers will just use her more. Myers is mostly guilty for the way she is using her as a weapon at every turn. So Mi won't chill until she is left alone and out from under Myers boot.
@@SternLXI know, that's the point. So Mi is not that different to Myers. She did to V what Myers did to her.
I love her as an antagonist but I still don't get why V could betray her
Why was V speaking in a french accent?
Behavioral imprint working
thats why im helping her, i dont care
She could have killed V, why didn't she?
songbird did nothing wrong.
Anyone who can fix her?
🙋♂️
So wait can you keep Alex alive but still have the ending were v survives? Because genuinely I cried when Alex died in such a gruesome manner like that wasnt necessary at all for CD project red to do it so disgustingly
if you side with songbird here alex will survive, later on you can help songbird or give her to reed if you want the ending where v "lives", just a warning it is a very depressing ending, the happiest route in my opinion would be to save songbird and then do the panam ending or fear the reaper ending.
Yep your not locked out of NUSA ending at this point.
If you give Songbird to Reed at the end of The Killing Moon then you can still get it and also have alex alive I believe.
Only one that locks you out is help songbird -> kill reed
I felt the same for the Cassel twins. Sure, they were career criminals but like... damn. They were so intriguing to me.
@@deusvmachinaespecially aurore. That incredibly feminine French voice just does things to me
My grandma died of Alzheimer’s so I saved her because her disease basically was a form of dementia/Alzheimer’s. I wasn’t gonna let her suffer through that or go back to people who forced that onto her.
Okay ive never played the DLC but why does V sound russian 😭
because in the DLC you get an item which lets you pretend to be somebody else, makes you look and sound different.
huh@@Xiefux
@@Torti14 this is French accent, not Russian