18 F1 Legends Pick Their F1 GOAT
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2021
- So the F1 Goat debate is one that will never be settled. Never. You could have a driver go into the double digits in terms of world titles and there would still be differing opinions. The older generation will have different experiences of how hard it was to driver a car, the levels of support from teams on a radio. So many different factors.
Personally, when an F1 driver or legend speaks I sit up and listen. Becuase i'm just a guy in box room making videos. They know alot more than me. So rather than go over the same old stats. Lets' look at what some F1 legends and Big personalities in the sport have to say about who they think is the F1's greatest driver of all time.
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Leave a comment and let me know who your F1 GOAT is!
Jim Clark - simply look at race starts/poles, fastest laps etc to wins, this when his car repeatedly kept breaking.
Also - Indy win, touring cars, sport cars, even driving an ERA.
Unlike the one trick ponies today.
And this when at end of the day he was always a farmer.
Note who Senna deems as the greatest of all !
@@iangibbon9456 indeed i think it was senna's favorite driver, him and Fangio. What a Legend, lucky for those who were lucky to see him racing.
alonso
My GOAT is Jim Clark. Most versatile driver, still dominated with dodgy gearboxes at deadly tracks coupled with treacherous weather, in a friggin Lotus! Winning at Spa with all the above going on and to win over 4 minutes! Won Indy 500 by over 2 mins too! (Doesn’t that mean he lapped the entire field!?)
Honourable mention to my GOAT runner-up, Juan Manuel Fangio; Take his iron discipline & remarkable talent, but replace the nearly 50 year old man with a mid-20s man with today’s modern diet/fitness, modern cars, safer tracks, OH BOY you’d have a version of Fangio that’d be tearing up the Grand Prix season & giving Clark an almighty title challenge!
If you give Michael and Hamilton the perfect car… it’s a flip of a coin
If you give them a mediocre car, I would choose Michael in a heartbeat
Yeah going off the the fact that Michael has been there in mediocre cars or teams that shouldn't be winning. Lewis has won in cars that have no right winning races, but he's always been in a team that should always be at the front. Michael didn't have that in the early days
2009 Lewis entered the chat*
@@ND9HighlightsComps McLaren 2009 was only bad in the first half
@@deekay2578 lewis still clutched p3/4 in the first race
@@deekay2578 Mclaren 2009 in this 1st half was worse than Ferrari 1996.
I'm a huge Schumacher fan, but the fact that I'm pretty sure nobody even mentioned Jim Clark who is argued to be the best driver EVER
There will never be a greatest of all time, only the greatest for their time
Yeah I think that is a nice way of putting it. The more I researched it made me think it is constantly changing. You can only really look at eras
Yep I think this comment specifically applies for F1 bcos of cars/teams/competitors etc
In terms of achievements its easy to nominate the goat, but in my opinion its wrong to do that. We should nominate the goat only based on pure talent.
There is just some combinations which felt illegal, there is no goats but the Records speak for themselves
Lewis is a one dimensional driver. Give him the best car; and he can do the job. Give him a car that's anything less than the best; and he struggles for points
Michael, on the other hand, was THE most well-rounded driver in the history of the sport. Regardless of what anyone can say about questionable tactics, Michael was involved in EVERY aspect of the Team... not just driving. His feedback was on another level. He was able to provide the Team with valuable information, after a few laps, which can only be matched by today's modern technology. Even then, the ability to push the car to a limit that other drivers would be afraid to approach, was one of his stronger qualities. The _"feel"_ of the car, as it hit each corner, each bump, etc... was something that he could read above and beyond anyone else.
The way that Formula One has essentially replaced every aspect of racing with technology controlled by the Team, except the actual driving, it has reduced F1 to a level that is closer to radio controlled cars than ever before. Gone are the days when we can genuinely see a driver work his magic by putting cars on pole, or winning, when it had no business being there. Michael did it for years, which is why he was THE GUY to beat for most of his career.
Put Lewis in the Haas; and if he can help them develop the car to the point of winning championships, then talk to me about who the GOAT is. Until then, he's just a competent driver in the best car. Period!
Not only that but Michael's fitness regime was second to none. back then most drivers didn't really put much thought into fitness until Michael came along. Ever since then EVERY driver has a strict fitness regime.
Also back in the 80's and 90's When Prost, Senna and Mansell were at their prime and the start of Michael's career the cars had a lot more reliability issues, the cars were a lot more even with a lot more drivers capable of winning races. It made the racing more intense as every driver had to look after their car while also trying to give it their all. Now though with all the telemetry in the cars, the teams can tell the driver if their is a slight fluctuation on ANY component of the car including the aero and then they can adjust things via the laptops in the garage to get it all back right. You never had that 20, 30 40 years ago and beyond.
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Good point! Michael understood how physical fitness gave him an edge over drivers with better equipment. It gave him the stamina to push harder and for much longer.
When you looked at the top 3 finishers when Michael won, you clearly saw the difference it made. Michael was full of energy; and barely broke a sweat, while the others looked haggard, yet happy; and clearly sweating in their coveralls. They were the first to grab a towel to dry their faces.
Michael was the first to bring his own gym set and bicycle for working out at each race. He was diligent about his fitness regimen.
I laugh when I hear modern F1 drivers speak of how Hamilton's physique is a natural for F1. He works out just as much as Michael did; and has Michael NOT introduced the physical fitness regimen to his F1 preparation, who knows whether Hamilton would be working out as much as he did and does. Young drivers only do it, because Michael demonstrated how vital it is to a driver's success.
The GOAT is the Senna, unquestinably. Six times monaco wins enough for me five of them consecutive, to win a race by using only sixth gear, fliying qualifying laps 1.5 sec faster than a teammate multipl world champion in the same car, unbeliavable defence to williams Renault which has active suspontion and telemetry systems ( all of them are resticted later) which is the best car of all time in monaco 1992, Lap of God in donington park in a rainy weather he started in sixth pole position and he was the leader before first lap ending and schumacher was still in fifth place, races in rainy days like in a dry..... .very early lost..RIP
100% right
thanks for commenting
No, Prost is superior. Senna had the straight speed, but Prost had superior strategy, and was far more calculating in his moves
@@arnavramanujam9606 I am not talking about strategies, the point is passion for pure driving. Please watch Monte Carlo 1988 grand prix. Senna was leading the Race. The Gap between Senna and Prost (second position) was 55 second. Team principal said you dont need, slow down. But Senna was still going with full throttle. If we consider strategies, titels Hamilton superior all of them. But the senna is GOAT for me. Only Verstappen and Schmacher were close to him.
@@ProfDrCengizbahadr Senna truly had the pace, honestly speaking, but Prost was far more consistent in his victories
Even though it's a subjective topic, I do love hearing the driver and team bosses opinions on it. Also fair play to Prost for pretty much saying himself.
Massive fairplay to Prost for saying himself. I do think Prost is very under the radar and doesnt get the props
Every driver beaten by Schumi doesnt pick him as the goat. I wonder why. 🤔
I have no GOAT. And I can't compare drivers of different generations with different machinery, and rule sets, with different relative competition. I want to give all of them as much respect as they deserve regardless of who my favourite driver is.
Michael Schumacher will remain the greatest of all time for how he revived 2 underdog teams to championship winning teams
It is quite an achievement. I am quite curious to see if Lewis would be capable
@@RACINGHOUSEUK he need to copy Fernando Alonso setups aahahahahaha
Ferrari and renault underdog ? Please
Lewis has the win stats, with a dominant car.
I also grew up a Schummi fanboy, definitely biased, but the arguments I hear of Michael seem much more intent at identifying tangible skill of the driver alone, separate of team and machine
@@RACINGHOUSEUK capable? McLaren after his first championship didn’t, and now with Mercedes neither. So no he can’t. He always been lucky.
Currently I think Michael Schumacher is the goat cuz he has done way more than Lewis and without Michael Lewis wouldn’t be a 7 time champion
It's that thing. Micheal said Ayrton and that he wouldn't have won the titles he had if Ayrton had lived. He also listed Fangio. Fangio and Ayrton both said Jim Clark. It's impossible to say because career length and differences in reliability make numbers a bit meaningless. Jackie Stewart only took part in 99 GP so how can you compare his numbers to someone more recent. He saw more of his friends die than some drivers with 99 starts have had point scoring finishes, it was a different world. Enzo said Tazio was the best. It was one of the reasons he loved Gilles Villeneuve was because he reminded him of Tazio. So many great drivers worth of respect through the generations. Enjoyable video as always 👍
Yeah it is constanly moving, I think the greatest of the era is the PC way to go but I also love the different approaches people take
@@RACINGHOUSEUK always interesting to hear peoples thoughts
Schumacher
@Racing House, you are the RUclips F1 content GOAT
😂 thanks for watching it bro. One day i'll get the trophy
It's true, he is
it is most imp to note that barring poles Lewis took more no of race entries than MichaelSchumacher to even MichaelSchumacher's records infact some of Schumacher's records are yet to be equalled by Lewis all this considering MichaelSchumacher left Benetton & lost 2 precious years with Ferrari when they were struggling to even finish if one just goes by the avg wins of MichaelSchumacher from all of his 7 titles had Ferrari been what they became from 2000 at the time when Michael Schumacher joined them MichaelSchumacher would have finished with 9 world titles & at least 112 to 115 race wins MichaelSchumacher means F1 the one who revolutionized F1 infact rules were formed to stop MichaelSchumacher from winning in the history of F1 this has never happened THE MOST COMPLETE MASTER of the sport
I think that every era has it’s own Goat, but if we could put all the Goats in the same level car i would bet all my money on Senna, cause i know he would wanted it more then anyone to win. So he is my favorite Goat of all times!!!
I think most people, including Hamilton, Schumacher, and most of the people that you took accaunt of in this video, would all agree that if every goat candidate would be put in the same car, in the same era, in the same conditions, Senna would come out on top. Just a magical driver.
Senna easily, Prost is severely underrated by most but he is in my top 5 for sure.my top 5 is: Senna, Fangio, Clark, Schumacher, Prost.
Prost and Senna are both incredibly overrated.
F1metrics mathematical model believes they aren't even in the top 10 of all time. this is an incredibly objective model that relies on team mate chains (e.g you can link Senna and Prost to Schumacher using Mansell and Piquet or Mansell and patrese as Schumacher was team mates with both Piquet and Patrese). You can account for age related decline and also Schumacher's lack of experience when he faced both Piquet and patrese. In whatever case you consider, Schumacher looks significantly better. There are better drivers that fit between Schumacher and Prost/Senna in terms of relative performance.
Senna, Jim clark,Schumacher
Both Schumacher and Hamilton were part of the most dominant team eras ever, Ferrari 2000s and Mercedes Hybrid... You could hardly do bad with those cars.
Fangio on the other hand... Was so dominant and won with 4 different manufacturers in an era where the driver mattered far more than nowadays, plus that was an era where if you made a critical mistake, you could die.
Fangio always found himself in the best car though….
Competition was also lower back then. Also much less races.
Also you can't equalise the dominance of Ferrari & Mercedes. Mercedes dominance was far worse.
Mercedes:
2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020: 7 WDCs in a row, 1 of them not even Hamilton
2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021: 8 WCCs in a row
Ferrari:
2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004: 5 WDCs in a row, all with Schumacher
1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004: 6 WCCs in a row
That's 5 WDCs VS 7 WDCs and 6 WCCs VS 8 WCCs
Mercedes was on the top for 2 years longer.
Mercedes also built more dominant cars. 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019 and 2020.
Ferrari only built a dominant car in 2002 & 2004.
@@ey1615 Yeah exactly. His claim ''You could hardly do bad with those cars.'' seems like he didnt watch the races in early 2000's. The claim might be true for Mercedes era, but Ferrari was indeed only 2002 and 2004 dominant. In 2001 Mclaren and BMW had too many DNF's and driver errors to have a chance. Their pace was competitive though. The rest was on Schumacher and his driving skills to make it look dominant.
Michael Schumacher ❤️
Big love for schumacher
Hamilton? Who were his team mates?
Senna drove a Tolemann,a midfield Lotus and team mates with the great Alain Prost who himself won 4 tities.
Hamilton has had the best car for almost all his career and pretty ordinary team mates.
Yeah it's one of those things. They all have their positives and negatives
Nico, Alonso, Button all have 4 WDC between them. They're not bums lol
Hamilton has had world champion teamates
The GOAT of all GOATs is John Surtees. The only one who won F1, Moto 500cc and Isle of Man TT championships. Plus, he's still the only one to win a championship with a blue Ferrari
If Senna had lived he would have won easily another three tities. The reliability of modern cars is far superior than Sennas time and still he dominated in pole positions and wing in a short career. For me there is no contest here, the only one worthy of challenging Senna is Clarke.
Tbh clark would destroy senna his skill is unbelievable so yeah schumi can be there but not so high
@@razeenap3629 I think it would be a battle of giants. Clark Senna
@@irishguy200007 yeah it will be like kimi vs alonso vs schumi and vettel vs Hamilton vs alonso 2012 it will be a fearsome fight
Yes! For me Senna will always be the greatest but if someone tells me Jim or Scumacher I respect that.
Also Senna and Fangio both said that Clark is the greatest driver ever so that holds weight.
Fangio without question ! And Lauda was incredible
For me is make with different Era.
Early 2000 V10 Schumacher.
V8 era Sebastian vettel
Jacques opinion is probalby based on that plus 10 second gap that he lost in span of one lap in 1997 in Spa. Michael was 6 seconds away form Jacques on lap 5 and then he had 16 seconds on lap 6. In a very inferiour car.
Definitely based on personal experience and maybe even more than we know
To be correct Mclarne used Michael Schumacher to build their team and then shafted him. Lewis enteted a team already build for him and was partnered with a weaker driver and loaads of electronic aids.
Rosberg a weaker driver? You mean the one who outdrove Schumi for 3 years
kimi was a brilliant driver with a reliable car he would have won multiple champions and he took on michael and beat him
Yeah Kimi was unbelivably quick, it's a shame it didnt convert to multiple world titles
I'll not say a name... but his achievements...
- almost won Monaco GP under a heavy rain in an awful car
- first won was a Grand Chelem
- most victories on the hardest track, Monaco
- saved a driver's life, giving up his qualify lap
- won a F-2000 race without using breakes
- won a race with only the 6th gear on the last 10 laps
- passed 4 cars (including both of best cars in F1) at the first lap on a track with no points of overtaking
I agree with f1metrics top 5
1. Schumacher
2. Stewart
3. Alonso
4. Fangio
5. Ascari
Why? Because f1metrics is completely objective (relies on team mate chains, not success or car performance) and this is as close as you can get to a true top 5 list as possible.
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@@re089 what's funny?
Schumacher. Lewis drive cars without any reason to do some hard movements. Schumacher drove car hards and worse than rival a lot of times
I remember when i was young saw the steem of Michael Schumacher remember the red car was just a like the flash for so fast and the engine 😍 and kimi, botton that lime green car stole my fukn heart !!
A lot of the Michael votes could be interpreted as Lewis votes. Tbh this whole debate is pretty stupid. You simply cannot compare drivers who drove different cars, let alone different generations
Yeah it's a hard answer to get to. I enjoyed making the video and researching though.
@@RACINGHOUSEUK Of course, I didn't mean any offense by it. I'm a big fan of your content
@@alpeshabhijitchowdhury6895 tbh personal opinion there are clark fans senna schumi etc but hamilton is great but the new ham fans after seeing dts or one race and talking trash yeah that is like
For me its SENNA and Michael Shumi
Senna is not a goat, Senna is the King of F1
senna is both he is the greatest formula 1 driver of all time
@@tvhsongo clark is the goat
@@kanaan_tv6406 no he isn't stop trying to be different
@@tvhsongo He is shut up
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Great video but I'd like to add that before the season finale 2021, Toto Wolff has said that Michael stays the GOAT, even if Lewis wins his 8th.
Yeah I think the goal post are always moving and people change their minds.
@@RACINGHOUSEUK or maybe one of his comments was for PR and the other genuine. Guess we'll never know.
Two words: JIM CLARK
I think we can all agree that this is Ayrton's era. He would have won many more titles if the tragedy of 1994 hadn't claimed his life. Noughties: Michael Schumacher is the new statistical GOAT, having won five titles. Teens: With five championships, Lewis Hamilton is the current statistical GOAT.
At least we can all agree on something, Its not Max Vershlappen
😂I was very surprised that christian didnt name max
True 👍
Obviously the legend is GOATifi.
Senna
Senna takes an early lead! Senna is in alot of people's heart for sure
The goat is clark
Michael Schumacher is the GOAT in my opinion.
1:45 barcelona 2016?
Simple answer Alain Prost
Why Alain?
@@RACINGHOUSEUK guy was smooth in his driving never pushed his car to the limit all the time was a clean driver although he may have had his few controversial moments but he was one of the few drivers to never really be in any scandal except for the 1989 crash at sazuka could of won the title in 83 84 88 and maybe even 90 if he went on to win the last 2 races and the guy held the most number of wins when the calendar only had 16 races a season
@@gregoryrogers.21 senna 1.5 sec faster with the same car = alain prost better
Fangio us the GOAT. drove a Tractor and still dominated.
Vettel prime
AHAHAHAAHAAHAAHHA THE DISRESPECT TO AYRTON
The GOAT is Jim Clark and that’s the end of the discussion. Those that know, know!…Senna hailed him as the greatest, Fangio said he was the greatest, the fact he won in nearly EVERY category of motorsport, from F1, F2, F4, Indy, Tasman Series, Touring Cars, Sports Cars.
I don’t think any other driver in history comes close to the level of natural talent Clark had and the fact he’s largely ignored by the majority of modern f1 fans just shows how ignorant they are
20 century and early 21 century : Schumacher , Senna , Prost , Fangio. 2009 present: Hamiltonnnnnn !!!!!!!!
Schumacher for now. In 10 years it will be Max for Sure. Senna fabolous driver.
Would Ocon be a 5 time champion in Hamilton's car-againtst broken Ferrari and rest of the gang yes. Would he beat Meclarens Mika for example?
Thanks for the comment. I don't think any driver can do what the top tier drivers get up to. Especially younger ones, experience means alot
F1 God Most Complete in every way MichaelSchumacher he left Benetton & joined Ferrari when they were not even completing races went on to create history sheer talent speed literally everything
Lewis is the GOAT because of the Stats and mostly because he's a CLEAN RACER.
I think the GOAT of formula 1 was Niki Lauda and its a bit sad that not mor people would agree to this statement.
As i see it i rate winning the championship with multiple teams higher than winning a bunch with just 1
No doubt about it on a qualifying lap Senna was the quickest but F1 is so much more than that it's all about having the patience and knowledge needed to build a team arround you to get the result you want.
Look at Vettel he's won 4 championships but nobody has him in the goat debate because he never was able to win it at Ferrari. If he had Lost in 2010 and 2012 but won it in 2017 and 2018 then he would be in talks as the goat for sure.
Niki is litterally the only driver to buy his way into the sport, get his face burnt off and lungs permanently damaged in a firery crash and still nearly win the championship that same year only losing by 1 single point.
He retired from F1 and came back to beat Alain fucking Prost in the same machinery to win the title the same guy who would go on to match and beat Senna in a number of championships.
Lewis Hamilton owe's 6 of his 7 championships to Niki for convincing him to move to Mercedes when he did, he has a legacy with so many teams in the sport and did it all.
This is why i think Niki Deserves to be in the GOAT discussion because nobody none of the traditional "goats" did what he did.
I agree with you, Niki was a calculating genious who uplifted the sport
Nikki had is moments but I stil say is perfectly rated, for me underrated is jackie stewart, is stats makes him look only great because of to many dnfs, but if you take out is mecanical problems and only count is accidents and winning he was more consistent than schumi and Lewis
I'm surprised no Alonso... weird considering talent wise he is clearly the best
C'est impossible de savoir qui est le meilleur pilote de F1 et d'ailleurs il faudrait déjà savoir ce que l'on entend par meilleur.
Les époques sont différentes, les voitures également, Certains avaient une voiture meilleure que leur coéquipier, d'autres pas.
Certains ne voulaient pas de concurrence dans leur équipe, d'autres jouaient à armes égales.
Vous pourrez vous poser la question encore longtemps, vous n'aurez jamais la réponse
Toto once mentioned that Schumacher is the goat for him
Schumacher. lulu not even in top 5
Obviously Senna and then Michael
F1 GOAT🏁:
1) Fangio 🇦🇷
2) Schumacher 🇩🇪
3) Senna 🇧🇷
4) Hamilton 🇬🇧
5) Prost 🇫🇷
6) Lauda 🇦🇹
7) Stewart 🇬🇧
8) Piquet 🇧🇷
9) Ascari 🇮🇹
10) Vettel 🇩🇪
11) Clack 🇬🇧
12) Brabham 🇦🇺
13) Alonso 🇪🇸
14) Farina 🇮🇹
15) Fittipaldi 🇧🇷
16) Moss 🇬🇧
17) Raikkonen 🇫🇮
18) Hunt 🇬🇧
19) Hakkinen 🇫🇮
20) G.Hill 🇬🇧
Schumi 😍
Jim clark goat
The best racing driver is Ayrton Senna
Lewis and Michael on top, no surprise. Funny that both said that Senna was the goat. That makes you think when two goats nominate Senna has the goat. In my opinion is what you do with a shit car that counts not when you are in a faster car. What Senna did in is first race in Monaco in the rain in a shit car in is rookie season was brill and so far i didn't see anyone matching that. Plus, Lewis lost two championships to his team in the same car.
Murray Walker's reason for choosing Lewis ironically proves he isn't the goat. Walker's passing didn't allow him to see how Lewis drives when he no longer has, by far the best car on the field.
Very interesting video, as always, keep up the good work!
Good point, we haven't really seen Lewis be in the same position as others. But I guess we can only judge lewis on what he has done. Thanks for watching
Murray Walker has seen Lewis drive without the best car on the grid. In the later years at Mclaren, and the early years at Mercedes.
@@ocelotrevs we both know Murray Walker would not have said what he said if he had seen this year's British GP
Fangio and Ascari. It gets tiring to hear these discussions without tipping our hat to the forefathers. By probably the only criteria that eliminates variables like the number of races per season, the mortality rates attributed to ever improving safety etc., the percentage of wins/ races entered is about the most straight forward and accurate single metric. While this can't account for things like the dominance of a particular car/s or team(example being Merc...notice Lewis struggles when not in a dominate car) Fangio and Ascari were significantly better racing drivers.
Fangio, Ascari, Stewart, Clark, and Moss are the 5 drivers from past Formula 1 who were a different breed. F1metrics, an objective mathematical model, also completely agrees with this assertion, as all 5 of these drivers are in the top 10 of all time.
Ascari particularly gets underrated a lot (not that people always rave about Fangio, but people talking about the period between 1950 and 1955 often mention Fangio whilst neglecting just how amazing Ascari was). I’m not sure if it was the way he dominated 1952 given that the Ferrari was the only good car of this year, plus the absence of Fangio. I was not alive at this time so I have no personal experience, but from what I’ve heard - whilst Fangio was clearly absolutely incredible, Ascari was the only one even remotely close until Stirling Moss joined Mercedes in 1955. When Ascari died in 1955, Fangio said that he had lost his greatest opponent. It is good to see that Ascari gets mentioned along with Fangio in that regard.
Bro, both Fernando Alonso and coulthard said that Senna was the greatest several times and didn’t even mention it. This list is manipulated
And also Hamilton said thousands of times Senna was the greatest
Seb
He's done a lot to be considered
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4 Goats of F1 are: Fangio, Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton
Senna is not in the discussion. If you want to add a driver from the 1970s and 80s, then only Lauda should be considered.
to me, if you take personality into account Lewis is the goat, he not only has the stats but what he does off track and all the hate he has to deal with are really inspirational
when then i would put schumacher as the goat he was a nice person off the track and basically without him lewis wouldnt be to where he is now schumacher built the foundation for mercedes and set benetton to win and put ferrari back in championship contention
The idea that Schumacher had more competition because of Mansell, Senna, etc. is laughable. Mansell and Schumacher literally only shared one full season together, 1992. Same with Prost -- 1993. Senna was tragically killed in 1994, the first year Schumacher had a title-challenging car. The greats of the previous generation were gone, and I would argue that, right up until 2005, Schumacher only had one truly worthy opponent, Mika Häkkinen. And to a lesser extent Damon Hill.
Clark, Senna and Hamilton, however, all had a plethora of very talented rivals to fight in their time. It's Schumacher (and probably Fangio too) who had the LEAST amount of competition from fellow drivers, because their careers coincided with periods where there were less other great talents on the grid.
are you kidding who did hamilton vs? massa and maybe nico, schumacher had alonso, hakkinen, hill, raikkonen, montoya, coulthard, villineuve and more bro what do you mean laughable hamilton was in a title winning car from the get go michael was not without him lewis wouldnt be to where he is now schumacher built the foundation for mercedes and set benetton to win and put ferrari back in championship contention
@@name5798 Lewis has faced Alonso, Räikkönen, Massa, Button, Vettel, Webber, Rosberg, Bottas, and now Verstappen
@@elliotcrossan6290 most of whom are out of their prime, honestly I think the goat argument is silly, different eras different cars it's like comparing apples to oranges
@@name5798 personally, I think there are five roughly equal GOATs. Fangio, Clark, Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton.
Prost, Stewart and Lauda are close runners-up.
@@elliotcrossan6290 yeah i think so too
Sir Lewis is clear, no dirty titles, harder teammates and harder competition
Lewis is the greatest driver in F1,having to also deal with the hate from outside of the grid and being the only one of his kind not only in the sport but dominate it as he does...that is greatness being undeniable
That is a strong arguement. The hate is uncalled for
Alonso is better than both.
Micheal has dirty titles tho, lewis doesn't
Yeah a few people mentioned this factor didnt they
Cos its true. Tell people all the time about real dirty f1 deivers. Nowadays people have a go at lewis for sliverstone but back in the day another drivers were putting title rivels off track to win titles haha.
@@colinuk1984 Wouldn't Verstappen be considered a title rival to Lewis? Truth is, I don't think Silverstone was dirty driving, just bad driving by Lewis.
@@SS454LS6 still think it was a RI max knew lewis was on the inside tho. Also max almost took Mick off the track last race out
@@colinuk1984 It was close to a racing incident but Max gave more than enough room, even moved left when he saw Lewis put his nose in. Lewis was never going to make the corner based on his angle and speed.
Pretty sure that's a male sheep in the thumbnail
😂Big fail from me. Who's the sheep?
Schumi is a legend but no2..LEWIS IS THE GOAT.....
Lewis is definitely the GOAT
*Lewis nowadays is Greatest Overweening All Times*
If you dropped in a rain scenario, it would have been Ayrton Senna, best wet driver of all times, and if you dropped in a "bouncing back from mishap" scenario the GoAT would be Niki Lauda, ruthless, calculating, heroic Niki Lauda
Senna