@@dobermanproductions8184 Aston Martin had problems during the year, both Fernando and the team fell back. But he has the same amount of podiums that Perez in the RB has which is 8. Mercedes fixed their car, and were decent, with Hamilton looking competitive while AM were trying for just points. Hamilton wlth more points has only been on the podium the same number of times as Norris has with is 6. With the McLaren finding itself right before summer break. What does that tell you?
@@lopc1907 If you check out (1963 & 1965 G1 GP WDC Title winner)Jim Clark's machinations, it is absolutely staggering, what he managed to achieve in so few races. To actually watch film of him bombing around in that tiny, (in comparison), car against American gas guzzlers on the way to winning the 1965 Indiapolis 500, is mind boggling. He never did better than 2nd in 1959 24 Hour LeMans, and 3rd in 1960. 'The Triple Crown' of Motorsport eluded Jim Clarkr jr OBE; plus all and almost everybody else; except the very lone winner Graham Hill OBE, (1962 & 1968 F1 GP WDC Titles) and father of (1996 F1 GP WDC Title winnr), Damon Hill OBE . . . (Graham Hill never won the British Grand Prix . . .but was Mr Monaco Grand Prix . . . Sir Stirling Moss won at 'Silverstone' twice! But never won the F1 World Championship.)
This list is OBSOLUTELY NONSENSE without Jim Clarck!!! And without pre-war heroes - Carachiolla, von Brauchich, Lang and first of all - Bernd Rosemeyer!
Where is Jim Clark ? This list without Clark is simply a bad list. Clark to many drivers was the greatest of them all. He raced in all categories. The only driver to win the F1 championship and Indy500 in the same year. He is still the record holder for most grand slams . Thats pole position, leading every lap , Fastest lap and race win. He has done it 8 times in 72 races. To put it in context Max has done it 3 times in 176 races. Lewis 6 times in 323 races. Schumacher 5 time sin 306 races. Without Clark this list is a travesty.
@@razorr_oobviously those lower in the list. Moss never won a title - although he was a great driver. Stewart always ranked Jimmy above himself - and Jackie was a great driver. I would rank Jim Clark right up in the top 5 with Ayrton, Lewis, Alain and Michael. Definitely above Niki, Seb and Fernando.
A survey conducted by British Auto Esporte with 217 Formula 1 drivers and ex-drivers elected Ayrton Senna as the best driver to ever exist in F1. In a survey conducted by the German newspaper "Bild am Sonntag" with 20 active drivers, 12 chose the Brazilian as the best. There are numerous surveys asking top professionals, including drivers like Michael Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton, Fangio, where they clearly say that Ayrton Senna was the best in the world. The biggest rival of Ayrton Senna in F1 was named Jean-Marie Balestre and the FIA cheated constantly to benefit only European drivers, especially his compatriot Alain Prost who tried to disconnect Ayrton Senna from F1 in 1990. The greatest drivers in the world choose Ayrton Senna , the top professionals in motorsport choose Senna, who am I to disagree?
@@johnhill7058cuz they know he would have won more races and titles if he did not die early. Estimated could be 2, 3, or even 4 more titles, so becoming the 1st 7x champ instead of Schumacher.
the most complete driver ever is Michael Schumacher in every sense right from talent overall skills dedication knowledge of the machine dedication passion mental tenacity driving at the corners with full throttle & progressive speed
It is hard to say who is the greatest driver of all time. For me, as an oldie it has to be Stirling Moss. He drove every sort of racing car and if the car didn't breakdown he usually won the race. This was at a time when motor racing was very dangerous. Moss said it was that very danger that inspired him.
Ότι καλύτερο είδαμε στον παγκόσμιο αθλητισμό και ένας υπέροχος Ανθρωπος!Ayrton Senna da silva !νιώθω ευλογημένος που έζησα την εποχή του και τον είδα να τρέχει εδώ στην Γαλλία!το είδωλο φυλαχτό παγκοσμίως!Ayrton Senna da silva δεν έχεις πεθάνει, είσαι απλά ένα γύρο μπροστά από όλους!!
If you are comparing pure achievements then yes. But Fangio and Clark just raced against farmers and playboys, they cannot be ranked higher than Alonso, Schumacher, Senna, Hamilton, Lauda, Prost, maybe even Vettel
@ruditoonen6057 Prost didn't beat him, Senna lost due to reliability issues if you really check race by race. When or where did Honda CEO confirm Senna got the more powerful engines? In fact as I said Senna suffered more technical issues than Prost no matter what.
Imagine how many more pole positions, races, and world championships, Ayrton Senna and Jim Clark would have won if not for their tragic early deaths. By far and away the two greatest drivers of all time in the history of the sport. Splitting those two is virtually impossible.
Prost would have been the most decorated driver ever. He would have been as outstanding as Hamilton and Shoe maker among his peers. Yet he seemed as mortal as the others when the other guy was on the track. That’s how good Senna is. God level player.
during Schumacher's time the no of countries where F1 races were held were in lesser numbers & total no of races in a year far lesser than what it was during Schumacher's time
Lewis Hamilton may not be number one in this list but his ambitions and abilities put him in a great spot. He’s a living legend of our generation and well deserves his place on the spotlight.
@@WolfgangDF Alonso’s never been outdriven in his years at different teams , either he left the teams with the upper edge or he left with a level score 1-1. But losing to a teammate? That’s something Alonso statistically has never done.
My list: 1. Alain Prost 2. Juan Manuel Fangio 3. Fernando Alonso 4. Jenson Button 5. Max Verstappen 6. Alberto Ascari 7. Dan Gurney 8. Sebastian Vettel 9. Jim Clark 10. Ayrton Senna Edit: Remember, this is my list, so i don’t want a war in the replies, okay?
1-senna 2-fangio 3-schumacher 4 - Clark 5- Prost - 6 Alonso 7- Lauda 8 - Stewart 9 Fittipaldi 10 Mansell. I consider Hamilton really good pilot like Vettel but It depends on car... Verstappen/Leclerc are for sure better than Hamilton and Vettel
All of these drivers have been outdriven by their teammates before they left the team. All except one, that’s never been outdriven, either beating their teammates or drawing with them 1-1 before leaving the team. He has the cleanest record than all of these drivers. Edit: sorry, two
My list (1980-2024) 1. Michael Schumacher 2. Ayrton Senna 3. Lewis Hamilton 4.Alain Prost 5.Niki Lauda 6. Sebastian Vettel 7. Nigel Mansell 8. Kimi Raikonen 9. Mika Hakkinen 10.Fernando Alonso
@@Facto_Sapien10 How about formula ford, super formula Karts F3000 F2 where he didn't have a Mercedes engine why did he win every event having the most impressive C V record better than any one before or after before going to F1 where you seem to complain about him
People advance cars advance the sport advance. Nobody cares if the cars aren't the same as back then. It still requires a lot of talent and skill to be able to master those cars and win a championship 4 times in a row. Especially looking at how it has been done.
After I saw that you included both Stirling Moss and Juan-Manuel Fangio I really hoped to see Jim Clark there too since you (guys) have obviously got some historical knowledge I was hoping to see him there. I don't know why he is so forgotten about. His stories, achievements and records that to some level still stand today are beyond anything that has been told about Senna or Fangio in my opinion. A real legend and truly incredible driver. Such a shame that he's so lost in history for many people. :(
Michael Schumacher is the benchmark for all F1 drivers every accomplishment of his have come in fewer no of race entries( the exact race entry no) barring poles
I can not take any top 10 list seriously that says Moss is the best British driver ever, yet lists Stewart and Hamilton higher. That's before we get onto the real undisputed greatest British driver ever. Jim Clark.
"Every year someone becomes world champion. However that is circumstantial. The true world champion is only one. It is Juan Manuel Fangio." Ayrton Senna.
For me it's strange that Senna who won championship 3 times has higher rank in this video that Schumacher and Hamilton who won 7 times. Also it's strange to see Alonso here with his 2 championships won and not to see brazilian Nelson Piquet who made it 3 times. And as usual Senna is mentioned as brazilian wizard but everybody forgot that Piquet was also brazilian and won the same amount of championships. You could also include Verstappen here. He could get his 4th championship this year and he is really great.
@@drhunk9442 It's mostly about the numbers: championships and wins. Otherwise how can we define "the greatest"? By mysterious sad look? )) According to your opinion Nigel Mansell should be in this list. He is one time champion, but had a long career and struggled a lot (and was close enough) to get a couple more championships.
It's very difficult to judge by the numbers, you need to consider the situations they were in. I like Max, but there aren't many actually competitive cars in the grid nowadays, except for Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari. Senna was able to win three titles with McLaren, a far inferior car when he had to face Ferrari and Williams at it's prime. Also, search for 1984 Nürburgring Race of Champions and you will be surprised by the result.
My greatest f1 list would be in no particular order would be FANGIO - CLARKE - SENNA - SCHUMACHER. Other drivers i seen but just below are LAUDA - PROST - MANSELL - ALONSO - HAMILTON.
It's because he's an embarrassment crashed on German soil not long after WW2 hence why that bloody black fella Lewis Hamilton is even more goat because of useless GP drivers like glarke
Almost all F1 drivers who have seen Senna race holds him as #1 , unchallenged. They don’t go by statistics. They go by what they see in pure driving skills. THAT’S the opinions that counts. Not commentators , keyboard ”experts” , sportswriters or anyone else who hasn’t raced.
when they were competing ,I always thought prost was better than senna. in the 29 years since his death , ive realised senna was more ruthless , had this 6th sese where the grip was on the track , as amazing at qualifying and basically better than everyone else
Your Made up list has not got most peoples and your main problem that famous best ever driver bloody black fella in number 1 top spot as we all know thats where he belongs
Senna and Schumacher after those two legends f1 was not the same to be honest, lot of them were great drives but those two make history and they will never be forgoten
For memory: "Gilles was the best and the fastest racing driver in the world. And I liked him as a man even more than I admired him as a driver." Niki Lauda
@@hyperspeedgameplay8652 yeah but look whose still racing. Look who beat Shumacher twice. Alonso beat prime Raikkonen and he beat him at Ferrari. In 2023, scoring 8 podiums, more podiums than Lewis in the second fastest car; fighting with the Redbulls in quali and on track, he’s had a better season than his one against Raikkonen. Alonso doesn’t have a prime. He’s 42 doing the same things he did when he was 32 or in his twenties. He’s definitely better
I hate to break it to you but it's that bloody black fella whos always been called hamilton who knows how to drive better than the rest of the other ordinary drivers
@@jl88912 To be fair that bloody black fella didn't have the 1st fastest 2nd or 3rd fastest car when he won in a damp wet mix conditions Silverstone 2024 event
Can't comment guys like Clark, Fangio and Ascari as I haven't seen much footage. But from modern drivers I'd say: 1. Senna 2. Prost 3. Schumacher 4. Lauda 5. Hakkinen 6. Piquet 7. Mansell 8. Hamilton 9. Vettel 10.Verstappen / Alonso
@@JaydanPuriel Jos Son is the same as Ros Son both had rich ex F1 star papas to help sponsor and get the right contacts to cutipult them in a great situation joining in F1
These days, drivers retire their cars when they see a lack of performance, Senna was never told to retire the car, because they knew he would refuse, the only time Ron Dennis asked him to slow down, he was so upset that he ended up crashing in Monaco. There is one famous pole in Monaco by in, McLaren was not competitive, and in qualifying Senna was struggling when the car was with fuel for a few laps, and Ron Dennis told him:" Come in, you don't have enough fuel for another lap." Radios not being as good as they are these days, and English not being his first language, he understood:" Go for it, you have enough fuel for only one more lap." He went for it, got the pole, and ran out of gas at the finish line. Never give up!
Senna just retired himself all the time by destroying his engine or gearbox while Prost would drive just as fast while his car stayed in brand new condition.
my favorite driver and l think the most versatile is AJ foyt 4 time indy champ won at Daytona, won in the famous mark 4 ford with Dan gurney codriver at Lemans even raced dirt track and who knows what else,AJ also known as Big Tex could drive anything.l do think Jim Clark should have been on the list.
@@Ellemerob beaten, verb, past tense; Alonso and Hamilton ended level on points at the end of the season. Both second place to Raikkonen. It doesn’t matter if Hamilton was faster in qualifying, or on pole, or whatever. He did not beat Alonso. Ron Dennis advocated for a rookie and not the actual #1 driver who just won 2 championships against Shumacher. Hamilton was good, for a rookie. He tied with a stifled Alonso. He got beaten by a guy he raced against since teenhood, by a guy he beat twice. He got beaten by a new guy in a team last year, the same team where he won 6 championships. And that same guy is beating him again. Alonso beat Trulli, Fisichella, Raikkonen, Massa, Vandoore(who beat everyone in F2), Ocon (excluding reliability) and now Stroll. He tied 0-0 with his first ever teammate in a trash car, and 1-1 with Button, Hamilton, and Ocon (including reliability issues). Who has Hamilton beat? I mean flat out….Kovalinain and Bottas? A slow driver and non-racer? Cute for a “7 timer”. f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/11/22/the-f1metrics-top-100/ Read it and weep. You Hamilton fans don’t know racing. Good thing I’m nice enough to educate you, bud. It’s outdated, but the facts remain the same. Cheers.
My list, 1. Lewis Hamilton 2. Ayrton Senna 3. Michael Schumacher 4. Jim Clark 5. Juan Manuel Fangio 6. Alain Prost 7. Niki Lauda 8. Fernando Alonso 9. Jackie Stewart 10. Sebastian Vettel
Hamilton won his first title because McLaren stole material from Ferrari. Later on Hamilton won titles with Mercedes, but without the support of Michael Schumacher Mercedes won't be so competitive. Alonso was right when he said that Hamilton won his championships because he had the best car. Verstappen is 10 times better than him.
But the main problem is that bloody black Hamilton guy had won in each and every, single seater category even before F1 and then he was thrown in the deep end with a 2x champion and to be fair he beat him while being a rookie to add insult to injury. And the Ferrari aero reg data was later on the year for the next year's cars which was 2008 so the Fia changed the regulations so it would of purposely been useless and fined Mclaren 100 million pounds out of budget and stripping them of the 2007 Constructors Championship "ouch!
1st Clark 2nd Nuvolari 3rd Senna 4th Villeneuve (Gilles) 5th Rosemeyer 6th Fangio 7th Stewart 8th Moss 9th Prost 10th Peterson. None of the what I term ''the playstation generation'' would make it into my Top 10
In my opinion Schumacher is the greatest of all time he could have easily made certain he stayed in the best team year after year to win far more championship than 7 but he decided to sacrifice 5 years of his peak performance to drag Ferrari up to the top where he felt they belonged. Lewis Hamilton had only raced with Mercedes power and never stepped out of his comfort zone played it safe and dropped his head many times when he has been behind his rival .
Schumacher left Benetton because the team was going downwards and he didn't have a place in neither Williams nor McLaren. Then he built Ferrari around himself and enjoyed five years in one of the most dominant cars of all time from 2000 to 2004 thanks to Ross Brawn and with the status of number 1 driver and a number 2 that was told to open up for him every time he came around. When Schumacher arrived in F1 all the greatest drivers of the previous generation were retiring or (in the case of Senna) dying. He did one race with a middle-of-the-field car and already moved to a competitive team. Compare that to Senna, who joined F1 in its most competitive era, with lots of world champions and prospective world champions already on the grid and occupying all the good seats. He had to spent 4 years in uncompetitive cars despite showing enormous talent and when he finally moved to McLaren, he had to share it in equal status with no less than Alain Prost, who was more experienced and was one of the greatest of all time. And when Prost left McLaren and Senna had the car all for himself (wit Berger almost as a number 2), the team coincidentally lost its edge. Senna still managed to win 1990 and 1991. But in 1992-93, McLaren became uncompetitive again. In all all, Senna had a much harder environment to compete against. His circumstances were far more difficult than Schumacher's. And he would still have most certainly won 1994, 1995 and 1996 with Williams had he not died, which means Schumacher would be down to 5 titles and Senna up to 6.
Name me one driver that has never been outdriven by a teammate at the end of their run at a team. Alonso outdrove 9 racers, including Massa and Raikkonen. And he drew with three racers, two other world champions Button and Hamilton before he left McLaren twice. And Ocon who he beat in his first season back in F1 and then got beaten because of reliability. Alonso either settled the score or passed it. No other driver can say the same. 9-3-0 and now 10-3-0 with Stroll.
@@brendanbrown3100 the guy is almost 42 beating Lewis in equal engines. The biggest threat to Verstappen, always the biggest threat with a drivable car. Horner said, Button said, etc. Beat champions by large margins like what he’s doing right now with Stroll. Clark also died with 2 world championships. Fernando is the modern day Clark.
@@cadet15 sorry but Clark is on another level. He destroyed every teammate. Alonzo couldn’t beat a rookie - although it was one of the best rookie performances ever. Fangio, Clark and Stewart for me are the immortals. Don’t get me wrong - Alonso is the best of his generation.
@@brendanbrown3100 okay one, McLaren cost both their drivers a championships. Between Spygate and awful management, they put the team in a position where they couldn’t win because they shouldn’t. Alonso was managed unfairly and Hamilton went off at China. And that same rookie who is a 7 timer who has only just started to drive inferior machinery 2022 and he got beat by the new guy at his team. This same rookie is now complaining that dominance is a bad thing every weekend in the media like he’s gonna cry. He keeps calling Alonso old. That rookie is a stain on racing. Think about it. 8 teams. He beat Raikkonen like how he’s beating Stroll. Worst reliablity rate on the field , like how Jim and Rindt had and it ultimately cost them their lives. In a 4th place car. he was the biggest threat to first consecutive seasons. In an era where dominance wasn’t a thing and it was only you and the machinery, it was easy to show that you’re the best. And it was dumb of someone to deny it. This era, people like Seb and Hamilton were one trick ponies. Lost without the best car. Alonso won on pure pace. Seb won by track position for half of his championships. I get it, Jim Clark is another level. But so is Fernando. Someone who has never lost to a teammate, and never lost to a teammate in a championship fight, and never lost in a championship when it was possible. Fernando Alonso didnt come from a racing family or even a rich one. He never had the interest to race and never asked to. His first kart was that of his sister’s that she didn’t want. He started at 3 years old. From that point on, to now, a guy that’s almost 42 is still racing and in form. Spain’s only F1 champion was only a kid who knew how to race before knowing that he wanted to. And Dutch’s only F1 champion is the complete mirror of him. You have to acknowledge that if Alonso starts winning, and starts or keeps winning championships 3 years from now, he will eventually pass Fangio in being the oldest F1 champion. Those guys embraced racing for what it truly was. They either dug deep or tried with a different team. They stuck it out and Fernando always has done that. People criticize him for his decisions but at times he was the most serious in the field. Fangio switched many times, and so did Jackie. We are watching a reincarnate of a racer from the 50s and 60s. From when he drove laps around in the Ferrari bathtub at Spain to then win the race, it just shows us “what if?” What if you placed a first generation f1 driver, in todays era. We don’t have to wonder. It’s Fernando.
I dont think its fair in Verstappens case because he had only 1 year of motorracing experience. The step he made was too big but there was no doubt that he would be successful
It’s crazy to think about how much senna could have achieved had he not passed away, he could have been greater than all before him. And after him..
Maybe, but he still wouldn’t be as great as Fernando.
@@cadet15bruh
@@cadet15😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@cadet15Senna daria 1 volta na chuva no Fernando
@@dobermanproductions8184 Aston Martin had problems during the year, both Fernando and the team fell back. But he has the same amount of podiums that Perez in the RB has which is 8. Mercedes fixed their car, and were decent, with Hamilton looking competitive while AM were trying for just points. Hamilton wlth more points has only been on the podium the same number of times as Norris has with is 6.
With the McLaren finding itself right before summer break. What does that tell you?
Hamilton over Schumacher is crazy
If we analyze the emotion that each of these drivers caused us, Senna is light years ahead of the rest... For me, that's what counts...
totally agree
@@lopc1907
If you check out (1963 & 1965 G1 GP WDC Title winner)Jim Clark's machinations, it is absolutely staggering, what he managed to achieve in so few races.
To actually watch film of him bombing around in that tiny, (in comparison), car against American gas guzzlers on the way to winning the 1965 Indiapolis 500, is mind boggling.
He never did better than 2nd in 1959 24 Hour LeMans, and 3rd in 1960.
'The Triple Crown' of Motorsport eluded Jim Clarkr jr OBE; plus all and almost everybody else; except the very lone winner Graham Hill OBE, (1962 & 1968 F1 GP WDC Titles) and father of (1996 F1 GP WDC Title winnr), Damon Hill OBE . . . (Graham Hill never won the British Grand Prix . . .but was Mr Monaco Grand Prix . . . Sir Stirling Moss won at 'Silverstone' twice! But never won the F1 World Championship.)
Well that's cause he passed away😅
This list is OBSOLUTELY NONSENSE without Jim Clarck!!! And without pre-war heroes - Carachiolla, von Brauchich, Lang and first of all - Bernd Rosemeyer!
Where is Jim Clark ? This list without Clark is simply a bad list. Clark to many drivers was the greatest of them all. He raced in all categories. The only driver to win the F1 championship and Indy500 in the same year. He is still the record holder for most grand slams . Thats pole position, leading every lap , Fastest lap and race win. He has done it 8 times in 72 races. To put it in context Max has done it 3 times in 176 races. Lewis 6 times in 323 races. Schumacher 5 time sin 306 races. Without Clark this list is a travesty.
Agreed, Clark is literally the GOAT.
If Clark is in the list, somebody must be out. Who would be replaced with Clark then?
@@razorr_o Vettel or Alonso. They arent in the same league. Clark would be in the top three.
Calm down, its basically a talking Wikipedia article.
@@razorr_oobviously those lower in the list. Moss never won a title - although he was a great driver. Stewart always ranked Jimmy above himself - and Jackie was a great driver. I would rank Jim Clark right up in the top 5 with Ayrton, Lewis, Alain and Michael. Definitely above Niki, Seb and Fernando.
Senna will always be the greatest of all time 🏆
He doesn't even deserve to be on this list.
Until an unknown boy from Stevenage showed up 😂😂😂
Nope
Senna and Mansel will always be my favorite rivals titans of the sport f1 was awesome to watch back then
A survey conducted by British Auto Esporte with 217 Formula 1 drivers and ex-drivers elected Ayrton Senna as the best driver to ever exist in F1. In a survey conducted by the German newspaper "Bild am Sonntag" with 20 active drivers, 12 chose the Brazilian as the best. There are numerous surveys asking top professionals, including drivers like Michael Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton, Fangio, where they clearly say that Ayrton Senna was the best in the world. The biggest rival of Ayrton Senna in F1 was named Jean-Marie Balestre and the FIA cheated constantly to benefit only European drivers, especially his compatriot Alain Prost who tried to disconnect Ayrton Senna from F1 in 1990. The greatest drivers in the world choose Ayrton Senna , the top professionals in motorsport choose Senna, who am I to disagree?
Active drivers, choose Senna because he only died in '94. Fangio was acknowledged the best by his contemporaries and many others including Senna.
@@johnhill7058Jackie Stewart said it was Fangio and Clark. That's good enough for me.
@@johnhill7058cuz they know he would have won more races and titles if he did not die early. Estimated could be 2, 3, or even 4 more titles, so becoming the 1st 7x champ instead of Schumacher.
@@johnhill7058 thats the dumbest comment ive ever seen in 40 years in F1 groups.
the most complete driver ever is Michael Schumacher in every sense right from talent overall skills dedication knowledge of the machine dedication passion mental tenacity driving at the corners with full throttle & progressive speed
Ayrton Senna is the greatest in history !!
I think so Mclaren Senna is named after him to give him tribute...
@@dakshmandavkar6041yes i just found that out recently and i.m so glad mclaren did that cuz senna was such a legend
So is Alaon Prost
Ayrton senna is the only one who was champion with a class c car. That proves he is the best driver of all time.
Max
Ayrton Senna without doubt
Without doubt he crashed because he ran out of talent unlike Hamilton 😂😂😂
@@F1Guy-GuyShut up you disrespectful little kid
It is hard to say who is the greatest driver of all time. For me, as an oldie it has to be Stirling Moss. He drove every sort of racing car and if the car didn't breakdown he usually won the race. This was at a time when motor racing was very dangerous. Moss said it was that very danger that inspired him.
for me Lauda is the greatest. just tell me another driver who won a race without front wings and raced 1 month after burning up and finish 4th
Ότι καλύτερο είδαμε στον παγκόσμιο αθλητισμό και ένας υπέροχος Ανθρωπος!Ayrton Senna da silva !νιώθω ευλογημένος που έζησα την εποχή του και τον είδα να τρέχει εδώ στην Γαλλία!το είδωλο φυλαχτό παγκοσμίως!Ayrton Senna da silva δεν έχεις πεθάνει, είσαι απλά ένα γύρο μπροστά από όλους!!
Jim Clark belongs on this list period!
If Clark is in the list, somebody must be out. Who would be replaced with Clark then?
Any one apart from Senna
@@razorr_oJim Clark should be higher than Lauda, Vettel, Alonso, Stewart and Moss. Not only should he be in the top 10 he should be in the top 5.
If you are comparing pure achievements then yes. But Fangio and Clark just raced against farmers and playboys, they cannot be ranked higher than Alonso, Schumacher, Senna, Hamilton, Lauda, Prost, maybe even Vettel
Not true about Clark. Graham Hill, John Surtees, Jack Brabham, Jackie Stewart and Dan Gurney were all greats - and Clark’s direct rivals.
I started watching F1 in the 80s due to Senna. His battles with Prost was legendary and IMO elevated his status as the best ever.
But Prost beat him both years that they were teammates. Even though Senna was given higher powered engines, which was confirmed by the ceo of Honda.
@ruditoonen6057 Prost didn't beat him, Senna lost due to reliability issues if you really check race by race. When or where did Honda CEO confirm Senna got the more powerful engines? In fact as I said Senna suffered more technical issues than Prost no matter what.
Senna
Imagine how many more pole positions, races, and world championships, Ayrton Senna and Jim Clark would have won if not for their tragic early deaths. By far and away the two greatest drivers of all time in the history of the sport. Splitting those two is virtually impossible.
Max is coming🦁
No it's still that bloody black fella who ain't retired yet winning yet another one
No modern driver belongs on the list post v10s
He already is
He is the goat
Its difficult to compare all the era's i know! But i can't understand why you put Vettel in 7 and how you forgot Jim Clark
Ever heard of Jim Clark?
Agreed. Both Senna and Fangio regarded him as the best.
And in multiple race classes....(edit) simultaneously
No who that he sounds dead unlike that Hamilton guy 😂😂😂
@@F1Guy-Guy in those days drivers were not as bulletproof as they are today.
Prost would have been the most decorated driver ever. He would have been as outstanding as Hamilton and Shoe maker among his peers. Yet he seemed as mortal as the others when the other guy was on the track. That’s how good Senna is. God level player.
Me faz lembrar de quando o Senna venceu a corrida com apenas a 6ª marcha…
during Schumacher's time the no of countries where F1 races were held were in lesser numbers & total no of races in a year far lesser than what it was during Schumacher's time
THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER SENNA. INCOMPARABLE.
But at least we have better in Hamilton 😂😂😂
There are only 2 correct answers. Michael Schumacher or Ayrton Senna. For me it's Schumacher but those 2 guys are clearly above all others.
Hahaha.
Definitely made the right choice of naming my son Ayrton. 😊
@@ariessantos12 Son Mick Son Rosberg Son Hill Son Villenerve
no way you put hamilton over schumacher 💀
yes way!
Hamilton is better cuz Schumacher was a cheater
Schumacher was the dirtiest racer ever Lewis is better
he was dirty as fuck sharp elbows insane talent, he was no crybaby thats why every sane person puts him over ham
@@tomasrohovsky3931 Lewis handeled Abu Dhabi 21 10x better than any other driver would have
Lewis Hamilton may not be number one in this list but his ambitions and abilities put him in a great spot. He’s a living legend of our generation and well deserves his place on the spotlight.
No way Senna not being 1st, no way.
Are u retarded??
He isn’t. Senna is a racer, but not the best.
@@cadet15 the best, by far.
@@WolfgangDF Alonso’s never been outdriven in his years at different teams , either he left the teams with the upper edge or he left with a level score 1-1. But losing to a teammate? That’s something Alonso statistically has never done.
Senna is very overrated.
My list:
1. Alain Prost
2. Juan Manuel Fangio
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Jenson Button
5. Max Verstappen
6. Alberto Ascari
7. Dan Gurney
8. Sebastian Vettel
9. Jim Clark
10. Ayrton Senna
Edit: Remember, this is my list, so i don’t want a war in the replies, okay?
1-senna 2-fangio 3-schumacher 4 - Clark 5- Prost - 6 Alonso 7- Lauda 8 - Stewart 9 Fittipaldi 10 Mansell. I consider Hamilton really good pilot like Vettel but It depends on car... Verstappen/Leclerc are for sure better than Hamilton and Vettel
All of these drivers have been outdriven by their teammates before they left the team.
All except one, that’s never been outdriven, either beating their teammates or drawing with them 1-1 before leaving the team. He has the cleanest record than all of these drivers.
Edit: sorry, two
When was Clark outdriven?
@@cadet15who?
@@brendanbrown3100 edited my comment saying “2”. Clark was never outdriven
@@virgilma6153 Fernando and Jim Clark
Obvious modern era bias. Fangio, Clark, Nuvolari, Moss, just to name a few better than all but Senna on this list.
All I say that Mazespin should have been number 1
@Duck.ex3
Very funny!
I would probably put Fangio at #1. Also, Alberto Ascari and Jim Clark would be in my top 10. Replacing Nikki Lauda and ine of the others.
My list (1980-2024)
1. Michael Schumacher
2. Ayrton Senna
3. Lewis Hamilton
4.Alain Prost
5.Niki Lauda
6. Sebastian Vettel
7. Nigel Mansell
8. Kimi Raikonen
9. Mika Hakkinen
10.Fernando Alonso
Sena Schumacher & Kimi
Jim Clark
Ayrton Senna
Max Verstappen
These drivers were born to race. Real talents
Schumacher Lauda and Hamilton as suggestions
Max verstappen must first prove himself
@@dogansusam7443i think he has by now
Jim Clark, Ayrton Senna, Max Verstappen and Michael Schumacher. They were all unique, but I believe Verstappen is like a hybrid of them
@@BothFristy7 Hamilton was born a Goat not Human at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fangio deserves to be higher on this list
@@Catingaround Yes high but the problem is that he's placed below that bloody black fella called Hamilton
Ayrton forever!!!😎👍
If you invert Schumacher and Hamilton it’s perfect
schumy is a cheater you jackass, ham is not !!
That black Goat eats that Vegetable for breakfast 7 days a week
Id rather be a vegetable than a chocolate bar.
No Jim Clark makes this list a joke. Both Fangio and Senna thought he was the best of the best. High praise indeed.
If Clark is in the list, somebody must be out. Who would be replaced by Clark then?
@razor_ramon_ everyone moves down 1 place. For me he's #1 but I understand everyone see's it differently. Bet your top 10 isn't the same.
But the problem is that boy from Stevenage
Jim Clark 🏆
Who's that sounds dead and nowhere near beating that Hamilton
Ayrton Senna drove F1 cars....Hamilton and Verstappen drives big computers on wheels
That Hamilton guy to be far Won in every single seat category even before F1 so that's 1-0 for the bloody black fella
That counts for their opponents aswell, doesn't count
@@F1Guy-GuyTbh, he his driving skills are underwhelming without the godly Mercedes cars
@@Facto_Sapien10 How about formula ford, super formula Karts F3000 F2 where he didn't have a Mercedes engine why did he win every event having the most impressive C V record better than any one before or after before going to F1 where you seem to complain about him
People advance cars advance the sport advance. Nobody cares if the cars aren't the same as back then. It still requires a lot of talent and skill to be able to master those cars and win a championship 4 times in a row. Especially looking at how it has been done.
After I saw that you included both Stirling Moss and Juan-Manuel Fangio I really hoped to see Jim Clark there too since you (guys) have obviously got some historical knowledge I was hoping to see him there. I don't know why he is so forgotten about. His stories, achievements and records that to some level still stand today are beyond anything that has been told about Senna or Fangio in my opinion. A real legend and truly incredible driver. Such a shame that he's so lost in history for many people. :(
Always Senna
ABSOLUTELY SENNA!
Michael Schumacher is the benchmark for all F1 drivers every accomplishment of his have come in fewer no of race entries( the exact race entry no) barring poles
1. Senna
2. Schumacher
3. Hamilton
4. Prost
5. Fangio
6. Jim Clarke
7. Nuovelari
8. Lauda
9. Alonso
10. Surtees
Hamilton ❤️
I can not take any top 10 list seriously that says Moss is the best British driver ever, yet lists Stewart and Hamilton higher. That's before we get onto the real undisputed greatest British driver ever. Jim Clark.
Dude made a list of greatest F1 drivers and forgot to put the greatest of them all. Jim clark.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The problem is that Lewis Hamilton guy is technically the Goat and unfortunately there's only room for one Goat
"Every year someone becomes world champion. However that is circumstantial. The true world champion is only one. It is Juan Manuel Fangio." Ayrton Senna.
For me it's strange that Senna who won championship 3 times has higher rank in this video that Schumacher and Hamilton who won 7 times. Also it's strange to see Alonso here with his 2 championships won and not to see brazilian Nelson Piquet who made it 3 times. And as usual Senna is mentioned as brazilian wizard but everybody forgot that Piquet was also brazilian and won the same amount of championships. You could also include Verstappen here. He could get his 4th championship this year and he is really great.
It's not about the numbers bro
@@drhunk9442 It's mostly about the numbers: championships and wins. Otherwise how can we define "the greatest"? By mysterious sad look? )) According to your opinion Nigel Mansell should be in this list. He is one time champion, but had a long career and struggled a lot (and was close enough) to get a couple more championships.
It's very difficult to judge by the numbers, you need to consider the situations they were in. I like Max, but there aren't many actually competitive cars in the grid nowadays, except for Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari. Senna was able to win three titles with McLaren, a far inferior car when he had to face Ferrari and Williams at it's prime. Also, search for 1984 Nürburgring Race of Champions and you will be surprised by the result.
Technically Senna only won one championship.
@@ruditoonen6057 Source: the voices in Rudito's mind
My greatest f1 list would be in no particular order would be FANGIO - CLARKE - SENNA - SCHUMACHER. Other drivers i seen but just below are LAUDA - PROST - MANSELL - ALONSO - HAMILTON.
@@clintjohnson2245 Only one name stands out = Hamilton
@@F1Guy-Guy great driver - I just think my money be on a handful of others [ in a phantom race]
@@clintjohnson2245 Like Wesley Snipes once said in passenger 57 always bet on black
No Jim Clark. Glaring omission.
It's because he's an embarrassment crashed on German soil not long after WW2 hence why that bloody black fella Lewis Hamilton is even more goat because of useless GP drivers like glarke
@@Rhubba I blame Hamilton
if imola 94 didnt happen senna would have 6 championships, 94, 96, 97.
Haha. He technically only won one championship.
@@chiqs_f1 The problem was Schumacher
Almost all F1 drivers who have seen Senna race holds him as #1 , unchallenged. They don’t go by statistics. They go by what they see in pure driving skills. THAT’S the opinions that counts. Not commentators , keyboard ”experts” , sportswriters or anyone else who hasn’t raced.
when they were competing ,I always thought prost was better than senna. in the 29 years since his death , ive realised senna was more ruthless , had this 6th sese where the grip was on the track , as amazing at qualifying and basically better than everyone else
Do you think there is another driver that has the same ruthlessness and feel for grip in any circumstances?
@@virgilma6153Ruthlessness isn't a great quality for a sportsman.
@@stuartbritton4811 i believe it is at times when you have to deliver you can’t feel sorry for your opponent
Then why did Prost beat him both years that they were teammates despite Senna getting more powerful engines.
Ayrton Senna
Jim Clark
Alain Prost
Michael Schumacher
Juan Manuel Fangio
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Nigel Mansell
Your Made up list has not got most peoples and your main problem that famous best ever driver bloody black fella in number 1 top spot as we all know thats where he belongs
as italian my favourites drivers are Prost,Lauda,Mansell and Raikkonen
Senna and Schumacher after those two legends f1 was not the same to be honest, lot of them were great drives but those two make history and they will never be forgoten
For memory: "Gilles was the best and the fastest racing driver in the world. And I liked him as a man even more than I admired him as a driver." Niki Lauda
Alonso is better than both.
YES !!
@@cadet15 Prime Kimi > Alonso
@@hyperspeedgameplay8652 yeah but look whose still racing. Look who beat Shumacher twice.
Alonso beat prime Raikkonen and he beat him at Ferrari. In 2023, scoring 8 podiums, more podiums than Lewis in the second fastest car; fighting with the Redbulls in quali and on track, he’s had a better season than his one against Raikkonen.
Alonso doesn’t have a prime. He’s 42 doing the same things he did when he was 32 or in his twenties. He’s definitely better
@@cadet15 I understand where you coming from but i respect your opinion 👍
having no Clark is such a disrespect .But I'm not surprised this is on stats, Clark, senna, Alonso are the most skilled racers.
I hate to break it to you but it's that bloody black fella whos always been called hamilton who knows how to drive better than the rest of the other ordinary drivers
I can tell you Stirling Moss, Fangio and Jim Clark raced in an era wher eyou needed more courage than during Niki Lauda era.
Yeah courage like Jim crashed on German soil and dying not long after WW2 HOW EMBARRASING hence why Lewis Hamilton is the best driver Goat 🐐44 😂😂😂😂😂
❤️Sennaaaaaaa❤️
Lewis above Schumi is mental.
The main problem that Lewis Hamilton is always above every one and enough is enough
@@iMorands Your comment Schumi is mental is very disrespectful
@@F1Guy-Guy least dislexic Lewis fan
1.Ayrton senna 2.Niki lauda 3.Lewis hamilton 4.Gilles villeneuve 5.Juan manuel fangio 6.Michael shumacher 7.Alain prost 8.Rene arnoux 9.Nelson piquet 10.Fernando alonso
8:05 two GOATS in one frame ❤😎
But the problem is that it can only be one goat and it's a shame it's a bloody black one
@@F1Guy-Guybro do you know the other guy😮💨😮💨😮💨
@@brokenhero0750 Hamilton
hitting those jeremy clarkson quotes at the end there lol. but hey, I watched the entire thing. lol
Well Hamilton has the fastest car during his wins. Unlike Schumacher who only
Has the 2nd fastest car but still beating the Mercedes 🥳
@@jl88912 To be fair that bloody black fella didn't have the 1st fastest 2nd or 3rd fastest car when he won in a damp wet mix conditions Silverstone 2024 event
Bro Schumacher played in an Era with No halo and a more underwhelming version of the Ferrari
Schumacher should be number 1 here.
@@chinorosa7 Number 1 vegetable compared to the 44 🐐
@@F1Guy-Guy that ain’t right man. Below the belt
@@chinorosa7 That black Goat eats Vegetable for breakfast
Can't comment guys like Clark, Fangio and Ascari as I haven't seen much footage. But from modern drivers I'd say:
1. Senna
2. Prost
3. Schumacher
4. Lauda
5. Hakkinen
6. Piquet
7. Mansell
8. Hamilton
9. Vettel
10.Verstappen / Alonso
5 best no order
Clark, senna, Hamilton, Schumagher and Montoya 🇨🇴
1 Senna
2 Clerk
3 Schumacher
4 Fangio
5 Hamilton
6 Prost
7 Alonso
8 Verstappen
9 Lauda
10 Stewart
Vettel?
I would put max top 3 but this list is way more acceptable than the video
2 Clock
I would put Verstappen above Alonso
@@JaydanPuriel Jos Son is the same as Ros Son both had rich ex F1 star papas to help sponsor and get the right contacts to cutipult them in a great situation joining in F1
1 Senna, 2 Schumacher, 3 Hamilton, 4 Fangio, 5 Prost, 6 Lauda,7 Piquet, 8 Jack Stewart,9 Mansell,10 Alonso
Max has more titles and wins then Fernando
@@jeroenverzijl8596 nah be respectful
These days, drivers retire their cars when they see a lack of performance, Senna was never told to retire the car, because they knew he would refuse, the only time Ron Dennis asked him to slow down, he was so upset that he ended up crashing in Monaco. There is one famous pole in Monaco by in, McLaren was not competitive, and in qualifying Senna was struggling when the car was with fuel for a few laps, and Ron Dennis told him:" Come in, you don't have enough fuel for another lap." Radios not being as good as they are these days, and English not being his first language, he understood:" Go for it, you have enough fuel for only one more lap." He went for it, got the pole, and ran out of gas at the finish line. Never give up!
Senna just retired himself all the time by destroying his engine or gearbox while Prost would drive just as fast while his car stayed in brand new condition.
@@ruditoonen6057 Senna was never fired by any team, while Prost.....well. Enough said!
@@RAYGAMESHISTORY-fw4ss only cause he said the car was shit because it was. Plus Prost is still alive.
@@ruditoonen6057 So are idiots like yourself!
I kinda put Prost above Senna, but the biggest flaw on this list is the absense of the absolute GOAT, Jim Clark.
He was unstoppable.
If Clark is in the list, somebody must be out. Who would be replaced by Clark then?
@@razorr_o Considering Clark is better than everyone, just put him at the top and knock everyone else down one.
5000th view!😊
1. Schumacher
2. Fangio
3. Senna
4. Hamilton
5. Prost
6. Clark
7. Vestappen
8. Lauda
9. Stewart
10. Alonso
See this is a perfect list in my opinion
Ayrton Senna for me
my favorite driver and l think the most versatile is AJ foyt 4 time indy champ won at Daytona, won in the famous mark 4 ford with Dan gurney codriver at Lemans
even raced dirt track and who knows what else,AJ also known as Big Tex could drive anything.l do think Jim Clark should have been on the list.
Senna and Alonso, by miles.
Alonso beats Senna as Alonso’s never been beaten by a teammate, and never been beaten in a championship with the best car.
@@cadet15 Alonso was beaten by Hamilton in 2007. Mclaren also finished first in the Constructors in 2007
@@Ellemerob beaten, verb, past tense; Alonso and Hamilton ended level on points at the end of the season. Both second place to Raikkonen. It doesn’t matter if Hamilton was faster in qualifying, or on pole, or whatever. He did not beat Alonso. Ron Dennis advocated for a rookie and not the actual #1 driver who just won 2 championships against Shumacher.
Hamilton was good, for a rookie. He tied with a stifled Alonso. He got beaten by a guy he raced against since teenhood, by a guy he beat twice. He got beaten by a new guy in a team last year, the same team where he won 6 championships. And that same guy is beating him again.
Alonso beat Trulli, Fisichella, Raikkonen, Massa, Vandoore(who beat everyone in F2), Ocon (excluding reliability) and now Stroll. He tied 0-0 with his first ever teammate in a trash car, and 1-1 with Button, Hamilton, and Ocon (including reliability issues). Who has Hamilton beat? I mean flat out….Kovalinain and Bottas? A slow driver and non-racer? Cute for a “7 timer”.
f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/11/22/the-f1metrics-top-100/
Read it and weep. You Hamilton fans don’t know racing. Good thing I’m nice enough to educate you, bud. It’s outdated, but the facts remain the same. Cheers.
@@Ellemerobferrari still won 2007
McLaren last won in 1998😢
@@cadet15 Hamilton second in 2007. Alonso third.
Senna the best of the best for sure. Was there to win and win.
@@didiersayah More like crash and die
Lewis Hamilton = PR Athlete
Aryton Senna/Michael Schumacher = Goat athletes.
My list,
1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Ayrton Senna
3. Michael Schumacher
4. Jim Clark
5. Juan Manuel Fangio
6. Alain Prost
7. Niki Lauda
8. Fernando Alonso
9. Jackie Stewart
10. Sebastian Vettel
Where Pastor Maldonado or Goatifi?
Hamilton won his first title because McLaren stole material from Ferrari. Later on Hamilton won titles with Mercedes, but without the support of Michael Schumacher Mercedes won't be so competitive. Alonso was right when he said that Hamilton won his championships because he had the best car. Verstappen is 10 times better than him.
But the main problem is that bloody black Hamilton guy had won in each and every, single seater category even before F1 and then he was thrown in the deep end with a 2x champion and to be fair he beat him while being a rookie to add insult to injury. And the Ferrari aero reg data was later on the year for the next year's cars which was 2008 so the Fia changed the regulations so it would of purposely been useless and fined Mclaren 100 million pounds out of budget and stripping them of the 2007 Constructors Championship "ouch!
You can't say who is the best, but who has the best car,everyone should race with the same car, and see who wins,
1st Clark 2nd Nuvolari 3rd Senna 4th Villeneuve (Gilles) 5th Rosemeyer 6th Fangio 7th Stewart 8th Moss 9th Prost 10th Peterson. None of the what I term ''the playstation generation'' would make it into my Top 10
1.MichaelSchumacher
🥦
No Jim!!!! - Can't take this seriously - also Schu above Hamilton
The Vegetable above the black Goat I think it's breakfast 😂😂😂
Schumacher with out a doubt
Senna, undoubtedly
In my opinion Schumacher is the greatest of all time he could have easily made certain he stayed in the best team year after year to win far more championship than 7 but he decided to sacrifice 5 years of his peak performance to drag Ferrari up to the top where he felt they belonged. Lewis Hamilton had only raced with Mercedes power and never stepped out of his comfort zone played it safe and dropped his head many times when he has been behind his rival .
Schumacher left Benetton because the team was going downwards and he didn't have a place in neither Williams nor McLaren. Then he built Ferrari around himself and enjoyed five years in one of the most dominant cars of all time from 2000 to 2004 thanks to Ross Brawn and with the status of number 1 driver and a number 2 that was told to open up for him every time he came around. When Schumacher arrived in F1 all the greatest drivers of the previous generation were retiring or (in the case of Senna) dying. He did one race with a middle-of-the-field car and already moved to a competitive team. Compare that to Senna, who joined F1 in its most competitive era, with lots of world champions and prospective world champions already on the grid and occupying all the good seats. He had to spent 4 years in uncompetitive cars despite showing enormous talent and when he finally moved to McLaren, he had to share it in equal status with no less than Alain Prost, who was more experienced and was one of the greatest of all time. And when Prost left McLaren and Senna had the car all for himself (wit Berger almost as a number 2), the team coincidentally lost its edge. Senna still managed to win 1990 and 1991. But in 1992-93, McLaren became uncompetitive again. In all all, Senna had a much harder environment to compete against. His circumstances were far more difficult than Schumacher's. And he would still have most certainly won 1994, 1995 and 1996 with Williams had he not died, which means Schumacher would be down to 5 titles and Senna up to 6.
Sadly the Video footage doesn't match the dialoge at all! But still... thx and greatings
Ayrton Senna 1🐐
💀Senna /Schumacher🥦/Hamilton 🐐
Michael Schumacher
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1.Hamilton
2.Schumacher
3.Senna
4.Prost
5.Clark
6.Fangio
7.Lauda
8.Alonso
9. Sir Jackie Stewart
10. Vettel
😂😂😂😂😂😂
O ídolo do Hamilton é o Senna 😅
No max on the list is crazy
Name me one driver that has never been outdriven by a teammate at the end of their run at a team.
Alonso outdrove 9 racers, including Massa and Raikkonen. And he drew with three racers, two other world champions Button and Hamilton before he left McLaren twice. And Ocon who he beat in his first season back in F1 and then got beaten because of reliability.
Alonso either settled the score or passed it. No other driver can say the same. 9-3-0 and now 10-3-0 with Stroll.
Loads - Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Prost. Can’t rate Alonso above these as he could only match a rookie Hamilton.
@@brendanbrown3100 the guy is almost 42 beating Lewis in equal engines. The biggest threat to Verstappen, always the biggest threat with a drivable car. Horner said, Button said, etc. Beat champions by large margins like what he’s doing right now with Stroll. Clark also died with 2 world championships. Fernando is the modern day Clark.
@@cadet15 sorry but Clark is on another level. He destroyed every teammate. Alonzo couldn’t beat a rookie - although it was one of the best rookie performances ever. Fangio, Clark and Stewart for me are the immortals. Don’t get me wrong - Alonso is the best of his generation.
@@brendanbrown3100 okay one, McLaren cost both their drivers a championships. Between Spygate and awful management, they put the team in a position where they couldn’t win because they shouldn’t. Alonso was managed unfairly and Hamilton went off at China. And that same rookie who is a 7 timer who has only just started to drive inferior machinery 2022 and he got beat by the new guy at his team. This same rookie is now complaining that dominance is a bad thing every weekend in the media like he’s gonna cry. He keeps calling Alonso old. That rookie is a stain on racing.
Think about it. 8 teams. He beat Raikkonen like how he’s beating Stroll. Worst reliablity rate on the field , like how Jim and Rindt had and it ultimately cost them their lives. In a 4th place car. he was the biggest threat to first consecutive seasons. In an era where dominance wasn’t a thing and it was only you and the machinery, it was easy to show that you’re the best. And it was dumb of someone to deny it.
This era, people like Seb and Hamilton were one trick ponies. Lost without the best car. Alonso won on pure pace. Seb won by track position for half of his championships. I get it, Jim Clark is another level. But so is Fernando. Someone who has never lost to a teammate, and never lost to a teammate in a championship fight, and never lost in a championship when it was possible.
Fernando Alonso didnt come from a racing family or even a rich one. He never had the interest to race and never asked to. His first kart was that of his sister’s that she didn’t want. He started at 3 years old. From that point on, to now, a guy that’s almost 42 is still racing and in form. Spain’s only F1 champion was only a kid who knew how to race before knowing that he wanted to. And Dutch’s only F1 champion is the complete mirror of him.
You have to acknowledge that if Alonso starts winning, and starts or keeps winning championships 3 years from now, he will eventually pass Fangio in being the oldest F1 champion. Those guys embraced racing for what it truly was. They either dug deep or tried with a different team. They stuck it out and Fernando always has done that. People criticize him for his decisions but at times he was the most serious in the field. Fangio switched many times, and so did Jackie. We are watching a reincarnate of a racer from the 50s and 60s. From when he drove laps around in the Ferrari bathtub at Spain to then win the race, it just shows us “what if?”
What if you placed a first generation f1 driver, in todays era. We don’t have to wonder. It’s Fernando.
I dont think its fair in Verstappens case because he had only 1 year of motorracing experience. The step he made was too big but there was no doubt that he would be successful
This is a lid video because max has broke many records in 2023 and 2022
@@martinusbouwman1431 But useless at beating Hamilton