He chose Mustafa, not Mahidevran. He always loved Mustafa and wanted him to become the next sultan. But he was good to Mehmet too- and would have protected hom as well.
@@TeosDiary Not true, when Suleiman was ill he told Mahidevran he would see Mustafa on the throne, it wasn't his decision to make who would inherit. He might have been good to Mehmet, but he also used Mehmet against Hurrem.
Well hurrem did the same thing with the princesse, fayrouza even her friend maria she mercilessly ruined her face and tried to kill her for going to the sultan why it’s ok for her but not mahidevran???
@@ΔημΣΚ how she didn’t do that to fayrouza and the princess didn’t she kill the princess and asked rustum to kill fayrouza and then he found the tattoo and told her that is gonna be easier to get rid of her using the tattoo instead since the sultan himself would order to execute her??? R u really that blind to not see her evilness ??
I think Suleiman knew Mahidevran was behind it all along, but when he saw Sumbul dragging Gulsah away from Ibrahim's rooms/office, that was the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. No one else in Topkapi hated Hurrem that much, aside from her. In reality, that would have been the end of her, but dramatic license kept her around for another three seasons. LOL
That's because irl Mahidevran didn't attempt to anyone's life. All she did was to beat her up (provoked by her, not out of an emotional outburst like the drama shows!)- and she was sent away. That's it- all Mahidevran actually did. If she did any poisoning, obviously- she would've beeb executed.
Funny think is in real life Suliman shut down the harem. He lived only for her. This was made for tv. They did a good job. But I believe men can be faithful. I think we all know a few.
Very true. Once he spent his first night with her, that was it. Aside from Mustafa who was being raised by his mother, every other living child he had was with Hurrem. And she was his primary advisor as well, sitting in on divans behind a screen. At night, they would discuss what had gone on and make decisions together. Very modern.
I think it's sad Mahidevran acts the way she is... she took the spot of someone before her, before Suleyman became sultan... he actually had children with the one before Mahidevran, but they all died young. This is the true history, not just this show.
She didn't exactly take anyone's spot- she got a "lucky shot" with Suleyman and he liked her. He was having multiple women, not just one- including Ayse. If Ayse got pregnant- she would have also been a rival to all of them, but Ayse was respectful toward Mahidevran and talked nicely about her, so I think she would've accepted her better.
Ignorance of our loved one is the ultimate pain in this world. Not even one enemy should go through such pain. Though iam hurrem fan the pain of mahidevran is unmeasurable
Hyrrem is just like mahidevrat its not faut of hyrrem if Sulaiman is in love with hyrrem et not with mahidevran Sulaiman love end like hyrrem but mahidrevran its started everything after its norml hyrrem is be protected her self end her love family with Sulaiman
I felt for Mahidevran as well, it has to be hard to see the man you love fall for someone else. However, the Sultan never let her side until she sent poison to his table and poisoned pregnant Hurrem. So to be honest Mahidevran brought it on herself.
@@TeosDiaryno, it’s not still good, praying after poisoning a pregnant woman is hypocritical, learn about what says the Coran about hypocrites false believers, someone doing this is not a real Muslim they are not better one or an other
Just like he let Hurrevil be after poisoning/ killing so many people, being disrespectful to everyone, breaking all the rules, manipulating him into freeing and marrying her, listening to divan etc. Everyone deserves "forgiveness", not only Hurrevil😉
@@TeosDiary that doesn't mean that she was right to murder another person and unborn child, she knew that the child could be a boy and also be eligible to be Sultan. This even happened after she herself lost her relationship with the Sultan for beating up Hurrem.
Your favourite killed a lot of other people- including Ibrahim and Mustafa's babies, a lot of women too. She also wanted to kill Nazenin when she got pregnant and did, actually killed her after she gave birth- and was ready to kill the child too if it was a boy- because a fortune teller hinted her that the kid will be the next sultan. Luckily, it was a girl...who grew without her mother😉. Now tell me again-?
If this were the other way around, hurrem would have been excited, child taken after being born and given to mahideveran to raise. It really passes me off that she gets away with it every time. (It wouldn't be a good drama any other way tho lol)
Honestly, I think it would still be a good drama if it was more realistic and more fair. But they manipulated it in such a way that Hurrem seems like an indestructible super-woman, while, irl, she actually had a lot of suport- including Valide and Mahidevran was never really a threat (apart from Mustafa who was only a threat cause he was the oldest surviving son). The drama low-key denigrates a lot of people just to make Hurrem look like the ultimate hero...
I like this show its fine. But from the start sulieman knew ibrahim was folling the valide and mahdevran orders better than the sultan. The vrry same sultan that gave him his position. Why didn't suleiman deal with all of them in one fair swoop. Maybe even get rid of majdevran since after this "incident" she gets much worse.
Mungkin kalau dari awal sikap mahidevran welcome ke Hurrem, pasti mereka akan hidup saling berdampingan dan tidak ada pertikaian di antara mereka. Apalagi saling membunuh karena masing masing ingin berada di posisi tertinggi 😢
Honestly Mahidevran, could have been figuring out a backup plan if it didn’t work out instead of sitting in your room praying for hurrem to die. Pretty stupid plan in the beginning seeming as she could have poisoned Suleiman. And really, relying on gulsha?!? She’s like an egg ready to crack, just as dumb as that plan.
Mahi itu tdk sadar ...berungkali membuat kejahatan , memukuli ,meracun ....sayang sekali Mustafa mempunyai ibu yg jahat,dia tdk sadar bahwa di dinasti mmg begitu...dlu dia pun mengambil sulayman dari gulfem hatun
I think mahidevran is right. Hurrem also tried to kill princess isabella and firuze and her best friend gulnihal. She sent Victoria to hatice . Because she was afraid that she would loss her love. Mahidevran also was afraid . I know mahidevran did not love the sultan as much hurrem did . But what would you do if you were in mahidevran 's place? Hurrem killed mustafa's first child before mahidevran killed mehmet . The difference between hurrem and mahidevran is mahidevran's fault was exposed but hurrem's fault did not exposed.
did you watch the show with your eyes closed?? mehmet was killed FIRST, and mahidevran literally tried to take both his and his mother’s life when he was just in the womb. whatever hurrem did to mahidevran, mahidevran did it first, it was well deserved 🤷♀️
@@hakaze6269 mehmet was not killed first . Mustafa's first son was born in manisa and was named suleiman. Hurrem sent a hatun there and killed suleiman
@@khairuloraafm7640 no she didn't, that didn't happen, she was sent for Mustafa only we never saw her doing anything to little suleiman and we didn't see Hürrem sultan telling her so
Suleiman was never unfair to Mahidevran.. jo bhi hua Mahidevran ke sath she is alone responsible... Vo akeli aurat nahi thi vo was sharing... It was rule in Harem... Uske pehle Jo Sultana's aai they also had to share their love uske baad jo aai the also had to do the same.. that' what the rule said.. har Badshah/sultan has to follow that
@@arpitajaiswal168’she was not the only women’ you didnt know what you talking about,you should say that to hurrem shes not the only women than why you want to eliminate all the hatun and princess
it was a war between hurrem and mahidevran and mahi did start everything, and hurrem became cruel because the beatings the poison and aall the threats so i dont blame her But in real life it didnt happened!!! but the show they really made it a drama
In one sense they were all right, they created the monster with all their cruelness towards her, she reached out her hand to Valide even to Ibrahim, but they chose to try and destroy her. I will never blame her for trying and succeeding in surviving.
Semua laki2 GK akan suka Sama wanita yg kurang bersyukur Dan selalu mengeluh. Serta keras kepala. Contohnya ketika Sulaiman menghadiahinya kalung lihat bagaimana responnya terhadap suami?? Dan Masih Banyak lagi . Saya bukan fans hurem btw. Kenapa Sulaiman lebih memilih hurem Karena hurem sebagai istri sllu bisa menempatkan diri Di depan suami. @@yeesayaaina859
Mahi problems are those she herself created she was belittling harem every chance she got she poisoned her, belittled and demeaned her, lied about her, had her kidnapped, beat her no wonder hurrem turned out the way she did any less mahi would have all but assured her death.
but the thing is hurrem can admit she is just as bad and yet she's still the only one who got sepertaed from her child, mahi was not until mustafa's death. its not the same. hurrem can admit her fault and wont call herself a victim, but mahi constantly calls herself one
Pargali was actually a fool.. he knew how the Sultan felt about Hurrem.. still he chose Mahidevran's side and went against the sultan.
@moonsyummydelight5976 He seriously hitched his wagon to the wrong one!
He chose Mustafa, not Mahidevran. He always loved Mustafa and wanted him to become the next sultan. But he was good to Mehmet too- and would have protected hom as well.
@@TeosDiary Not true, when Suleiman was ill he told Mahidevran he would see Mustafa on the throne, it wasn't his decision to make who would inherit. He might have been good to Mehmet, but he also used Mehmet against Hurrem.
I love how the years go by, the line of family members to greet Suleiman grows longer.
See??? She started it all mahidevran. She tried to end mehmed and hurrem sultan here, she started all that. Im happy hurrem sultan won her
Yes totally agree 👍🏾
Well hurrem did the same thing with the princesse, fayrouza even her friend maria she mercilessly ruined her face and tried to kill her for going to the sultan why it’s ok for her but not mahidevran???
@@lailabel5443 she didn't do that to Isabella and firuze... As for gulnihal, they used her on purpose and she agreed on it
Hurrem was hated from very beginning
@@ΔημΣΚ how she didn’t do that to fayrouza and the princess didn’t she kill the princess and asked rustum to kill fayrouza and then he found the tattoo and told her that is gonna be easier to get rid of her using the tattoo instead since the sultan himself would order to execute her??? R u really that blind to not see her evilness ??
I think Suleiman knew Mahidevran was behind it all along, but when he saw Sumbul dragging Gulsah away from Ibrahim's rooms/office, that was the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. No one else in Topkapi hated Hurrem that much, aside from her. In reality, that would have been the end of her, but dramatic license kept her around for another three seasons. LOL
That's because irl Mahidevran didn't attempt to anyone's life. All she did was to beat her up (provoked by her, not out of an emotional outburst like the drama shows!)- and she was sent away. That's it- all Mahidevran actually did. If she did any poisoning, obviously- she would've beeb executed.
I think that Sumbul halted Gulsah when he saw Suleiman watching them so he would get a good look and put two and two together. :)
Mahidevran praying To Allah for forgiveness after poisoning a pregnant woman is so funny.
Nem az,egyáltalán.Ez hatalmas bűn.
Did Hurrem pray after poisoning/ killing so many people? At least once?😉
Was going to say this 😂, her sitting there praying for Hurrem to die, like gurl, she really did not plan this through well 😅.
Funny think is in real life Suliman shut down the harem. He lived only for her. This was made for tv. They did a good job. But I believe men can be faithful. I think we all know a few.
More importantly want to be faithful even when hé doesn't have to
Obviously this is made for tv, it doesn’t state anywhere this is 100% historically factual lol
Very true. Once he spent his first night with her, that was it. Aside from Mustafa who was being raised by his mother, every other living child he had was with Hurrem. And she was his primary advisor as well, sitting in on divans behind a screen. At night, they would discuss what had gone on and make decisions together. Very modern.
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I think it's sad Mahidevran acts the way she is... she took the spot of someone before her, before Suleyman became sultan... he actually had children with the one before Mahidevran, but they all died young. This is the true history, not just this show.
With gulfem??
@@Yuiakane456 yes. Gulfem cried because of Mahidevran. Just the way Mahidevran cried because of Hurrem. Hurrem was her Karma
She didn't exactly take anyone's spot- she got a "lucky shot" with Suleyman and he liked her. He was having multiple women, not just one- including Ayse. If Ayse got pregnant- she would have also been a rival to all of them, but Ayse was respectful toward Mahidevran and talked nicely about her, so I think she would've accepted her better.
Poor women, these things all happend because of one man who can't love a one woman...
He was a sultan with a harem and , irl, it was a rule- only 1 child/ woman. So that was not the problem, but how he handled it- was.
Ignorance of our loved one is the ultimate pain in this world. Not even one enemy should go through such pain. Though iam hurrem fan the pain of mahidevran is unmeasurable
Hyrrem is just like mahidevrat its not faut of hyrrem if Sulaiman is in love with hyrrem et not with mahidevran Sulaiman love end like hyrrem but mahidrevran its started everything after its norml hyrrem is be protected her self end her love family with Sulaiman
The concept of the harem. Mahidevran replaced Gülfem who also lost her children. That is an unmeasurable pain.
i know right…its all suleyman fault in my opinion bcs he dont know how to give his love fair to hurrem and mahidevran,love make people crazy
Yes, he was too cold and uncaring to the old ones when he had a "new flame". And that created a lot of issues.
I felt for Mahidevran as well, it has to be hard to see the man you love fall for someone else. However, the Sultan never let her side until she sent poison to his table and poisoned pregnant Hurrem. So to be honest Mahidevran brought it on herself.
Mahidevran praying after poisoning Hürrem....😒🙄
This is in series in real life Mahidervan no put posion 💁🏻♀️
Hypocrite
@@andrejavukosav418we know
Which is still good. Did Hurrem pray after poisoning/ killing so many people? At least once?😉
@@TeosDiaryno, it’s not still good, praying after poisoning a pregnant woman is hypocritical, learn about what says the Coran about hypocrites false believers, someone doing this is not a real Muslim they are not better one or an other
How could suleiman let her be after what she did
Just like he let Hurrevil be after poisoning/ killing so many people, being disrespectful to everyone, breaking all the rules, manipulating him into freeing and marrying her, listening to divan etc. Everyone deserves "forgiveness", not only Hurrevil😉
@@TeosDiary mahidevil and hafsa started all that they did it
All drama aside: what is the dessert that Hurrem ate? Cause it looks yummy and I'd love the recipe
Me too bruh
Well, all one has to do is pay attention to what the dessert is and look it up. They say what the dessert is……
@@kdhj88 then do that and tell us
@@Spaceram122 it's quince dessert, google "ayva tatlısı"
quince dessert, google "ayva tatlısı"
It was Suleiman who always ignored mahidevran since the day hurrem came. Poor Mahidevran 😢😢
are you kidding? She tried to kill someone and an unborn child.
Mahidewran jest suką zła i zawistna sama narobiła tego syfu
Because she was completely ignored, humiliated and hurt😉
@@TeosDiary that doesn't mean that she was right to murder another person and unborn child, she knew that the child could be a boy and also be eligible to be Sultan. This even happened after she herself lost her relationship with the Sultan for beating up Hurrem.
Your favourite killed a lot of other people- including Ibrahim and Mustafa's babies, a lot of women too. She also wanted to kill Nazenin when she got pregnant and did, actually killed her after she gave birth- and was ready to kill the child too if it was a boy- because a fortune teller hinted her that the kid will be the next sultan. Luckily, it was a girl...who grew without her mother😉. Now tell me again-?
They has so much chemistry. They should of kept her for the whole series
What FULL EPISODE NUMBER is this from?
She got her karma for trying to kill a pregnant woman in the end
If this were the other way around, hurrem would have been excited, child taken after being born and given to mahideveran to raise. It really passes me off that she gets away with it every time. (It wouldn't be a good drama any other way tho lol)
Honestly, I think it would still be a good drama if it was more realistic and more fair. But they manipulated it in such a way that Hurrem seems like an indestructible super-woman, while, irl, she actually had a lot of suport- including Valide and Mahidevran was never really a threat (apart from Mustafa who was only a threat cause he was the oldest surviving son). The drama low-key denigrates a lot of people just to make Hurrem look like the ultimate hero...
I like this show its fine. But from the start sulieman knew ibrahim was folling the valide and mahdevran orders better than the sultan. The vrry same sultan that gave him his position. Why didn't suleiman deal with all of them in one fair swoop. Maybe even get rid of majdevran since after this "incident" she gets much worse.
Gotta love these soap operas😊
29:26 "last time" and yet mahidevran continued to harm hurrem 😂
Sure, but not in a life- threatening way.
Mungkin kalau dari awal sikap mahidevran welcome ke Hurrem, pasti mereka akan hidup saling berdampingan dan tidak ada pertikaian di antara mereka. Apalagi saling membunuh karena masing masing ingin berada di posisi tertinggi 😢
hy mbak indo😂😂😂😂
3:49-4:34 almost a whole minute of Mahidevran crying.
23.55-24.20 my fav part❤
I feel bad for gulsah cause through out the series she did care for Mahidevil. All for nothing cause the one she turned to was Hurrem.
24:43 valide sultan is fool......still stand up for mahidevran
Mahidevran sure was the Harems Karen! 😉
Suleiman❤❤❤
Honestly Mahidevran, could have been figuring out a backup plan if it didn’t work out instead of sitting in your room praying for hurrem to die. Pretty stupid plan in the beginning seeming as she could have poisoned Suleiman. And really, relying on gulsha?!? She’s like an egg ready to crack, just as dumb as that plan.
One's pay off for one's mistakes
Mahi itu tdk sadar ...berungkali membuat kejahatan , memukuli ,meracun ....sayang sekali Mustafa mempunyai ibu yg jahat,dia tdk sadar bahwa di dinasti mmg begitu...dlu dia pun mengambil sulayman dari gulfem hatun
I think mahidevran is right. Hurrem also tried to kill princess isabella and firuze and her best friend gulnihal. She sent Victoria to hatice . Because she was afraid that she would loss her love. Mahidevran also was afraid . I know mahidevran did not love the sultan as much hurrem did . But what would you do if you were in mahidevran 's place? Hurrem killed mustafa's first child before mahidevran killed mehmet . The difference between hurrem and mahidevran is mahidevran's fault was exposed but hurrem's fault did not exposed.
did you watch the show with your eyes closed?? mehmet was killed FIRST, and mahidevran literally tried to take both his and his mother’s life when he was just in the womb. whatever hurrem did to mahidevran, mahidevran did it first, it was well deserved 🤷♀️
mahidevran first tried to end mehmed and Hürrem sultan here, also she didn't do anything to mustafaschild
@@ΔημΣΚ mustafa's first child was born in manisa and was named suleiman. Hurrem sent a hatun to mustafa and killed his son
@@hakaze6269 mehmet was not killed first . Mustafa's first son was born in manisa and was named suleiman. Hurrem sent a hatun there and killed suleiman
@@khairuloraafm7640 no she didn't, that didn't happen, she was sent for Mustafa only we never saw her doing anything to little suleiman and we didn't see Hürrem sultan telling her so
Suleiman was unfair to Mahidevran after all.... As they say injustice is the source of all evil
It doesn't mean she becomes murderer
Suleiman was never unfair to Mahidevran.. jo bhi hua Mahidevran ke sath she is alone responsible... Vo akeli aurat nahi thi vo was sharing... It was rule in Harem... Uske pehle Jo Sultana's aai they also had to share their love uske baad jo aai the also had to do the same.. that' what the rule said.. har Badshah/sultan has to follow that
Mahidevran and Hurem both do not want to share Solomon's affection, but Hurem is actually more evil than Mahidevran. @@arpitajaiswal168
@@arpitajaiswal168’she was not the only women’ you didnt know what you talking about,you should say that to hurrem shes not the only women than why you want to eliminate all the hatun and princess
Its kinda funny... Suleiman goes to war and sees those horrors but can't handle someone vomiting.😂
it was a war between hurrem and mahidevran and mahi did start everything, and hurrem became cruel because the beatings the poison and aall the threats so i dont blame her But in real life it didnt happened!!! but the show they really made it a drama
In one sense they were all right, they created the monster with all their cruelness towards her, she reached out her hand to Valide even to Ibrahim, but they chose to try and destroy her. I will never blame her for trying and succeeding in surviving.
Dulu saya membela mahidevran. Setelah melihat ini. Saya begitu menyesal telah membenci hurem sebelumnya.
You are out of your mind
i never stop from like mahidevran,kesian…dahagakan cinta dari lelaki durjana yang tidak reti hargai wanita.cinta membuat kan manusia gila
Semua laki2 GK akan suka Sama wanita yg kurang bersyukur Dan selalu mengeluh. Serta keras kepala. Contohnya ketika Sulaiman menghadiahinya kalung lihat bagaimana responnya terhadap suami?? Dan Masih Banyak lagi . Saya bukan fans hurem btw. Kenapa Sulaiman lebih memilih hurem Karena hurem sebagai istri sllu bisa menempatkan diri Di depan suami. @@yeesayaaina859
Mahi problems are those she herself created she was belittling harem every chance she got she poisoned her, belittled and demeaned her, lied about her, had her kidnapped, beat her no wonder hurrem turned out the way she did any less mahi would have all but assured her death.
What did Mahindra do that that turned the sultan from her
Dnt know why bt feels disgust by seeing Mahidevran crying all the time
She should throw herself a pity party and be the only one there.
Mahidevil😢
hurrem
Hurrem told Gulnihal she would have done the same as Mahidevran (And proved it far too many times ) so she is just as bad.
but the thing is hurrem can admit she is just as bad and yet she's still the only one who got sepertaed from her child, mahi was not until mustafa's death. its not the same. hurrem can admit her fault and wont call herself a victim, but mahi constantly calls herself one
Mahidevran did it and escaped so yes she saw that she can do it and escape too, it's all mahidevrans fault she started it
@@ΔημΣΚ No. Hurrem would've have hurt other women regardless of whether she was poisoned. Killing all those women had nothing to do with Mahidevran.
@@mimioweida9333 ofc it did, she saw what mahidevran does and the consequences so she believes she can do it too
@@ΔημΣΚ So if she didn't get poisoned she would have let other women be with Suleiman? No.