I havent been watching motovlogging in years now. I came back and your one of the only original motovloggers that still makes videos primarily about motorcycles. I love you for that man. Stay safe
This is the worst mindset "i dont like the fact that I can't max the bike out"... that would never be a reason to hinder me from obtaining a bike that appeals to me personally
+Lex King Vlogs It's not about maxing the bike out, it's only about having the AFR adjusted properly. R1 2020 runs very poorly at around 6-7k RPM and has flatspot which feels like there is "water in fuel". Also the low rpm the bike is lazy and when you shift into first gear and want to go faster it likes to stall sometimes. We don't need 210hp, we need a bike that has 180ish hp with smooth power delivery. If this issue with new R1 continues, I will be switching back to full stock exhaust(even on stock exhaust bike is lean).
@@sufilms8878 so it’s not about actually flashing the ECU it’s about a design problem because you want something more attuned for street riding? This guy does a shit job of actually explaining the real problem.
I have to partly agree. I want a bike that I can almost max out. I like the feeling of having some power left in my bike, so I won't get bored as quickly because I feel like I can handle the max of my bike easily. On the other hand, I don't want a bike where I lose my license if I max out 1st gear (such like the R1 or S1000RR). A Yamaha MT-09 (or other bikes with similar power figures and configured engines for torque in the lower rev range) are the sweet spot for me personally (on the public road, on the track this doesn't apply ofcourse)
Nothing to do with being mechanically inclined, you just send in your ecu to get flashed and get it back in the mail. Or take it to a shop to get it dyno tuned. Either way if you're putting an exhaust on then might as well tune your bike. You have no clue what you're missing out on.
Ecu flash is a ridiculously silly reason not to buy an R1.. there is no streets in the world that you actually need an ECU flash. Even for track use you don't need an ECU flash 🤦
Just bought a 2021 Raven Edition the day after Christmas. Just can't beat the looks, especially that tail section, the sound, and the respect that the R1 demands. It's not the fastest, but it is the best looking IMO
It would take a lot more than having to wait for a ECU flash for me not to by a R1, I purchased a 2020 r1m last year witch is the 5th R1 that I’ve owned . When ever I’m in the market for a bike i go to the dealership and look at all the bikes and I always leave with the R1, looks wise the other bikes just don’t compare (the only time i didn’t think that was 09 to 14 R1 🤮) and the seating position just fits me better. And at the end of the day its a solid bike on a solid platform ( i have never had any problems with any of the r1’s that i have owned). Now as far as the other bike i was looking at for 2020 was the BMW S1000RR and after some research finding out that they were having problems with front brakes leaking , rims cracking , cold start issues (that require a flash ) and a dead spot at 5000 to 7000 rpm (that required a flash) all those problems made my choice very easy.
That’s right!! The R1 wins my vote as well. Tried a few other bikes and really liked the S1000RR But read/saw the issues with the S1000RR. Plus at the time I was possibly looking to purchase the S1000RR they had stopped shipment in the states due to issues with the bike. They had some lame excuse for why they were so back ordered but it was issues after researching. Then I saw Yamaha R1’s changes for their 2020’s and jumped on it ASAP. I was able to get my R1M in late November 2019. It is disappointing that there’s no ECU FLASH. I had a full Austin racing exhaust put on in the first 30 days I owned the bike (thinking the ECU would be out in 3-5 months). I’m getting tired of the backfiring and bad fuel consumption but I love the bike. Let’s just hope that ECU flash hits the airways soon. It’s making Yamaha look bad and not good for business. Come on Yamaha, give us the damn map for the ECU flash already!!
Same here the R1 just looks amazing but i am not getting what you don’t like about the 09-14?? I’ve not owned one but think it may be the best looking year!! For me it’s between the 04-06,07-08,&09-14 and all 3 gens just look amazing.
@@jacobhendrickson8935 just something about the shape of the bike durning those years that i didn’t like, i loved the 04-06/07-08 body styles and the under tail exhaust, i had 05 ,06,08. And i also like the 15’s all the way up to 21’s.
@@floydlias4172 I had a Race prepped 2015 R1( with race fairings, Brembo M50 monoblocs, with RCS 19s, and bigger windvisor, changed internals (bigger cams), ECU flash, austin racing race exhaust full system (except the headers), and carbon fibre wheels, pirelli slicks (it was not street legal anyways, track only), it made like 210-220hp at the wheel, like fricking hell, (it was really overgeared for top speeds of 370kph+ lol) But if i had to buy one today as a track bike? it's definitely gonna be the ZX-10R, but if money wasn't a problem it would be the CBR-1000RR-R SP. IG: GunmanTalksBikes (my r1 posts there too.
I have the 2020 R1. The bike is sick right from the factory. I agree with your frustration on the ECU flash. But overall I love the bike and it's performance right out the door. Put 10k miles in the first 9 months and no problems other than the quieter exhaust
In Bmw s1000 case it's about 45hp in the mid range. The bike frankly sucks without a tune and I'll is more dangerous without tune, as the power comes on violently after about 9k rpm. Tune gives a nice linear power increase through the dome.
These companies that make it so difficult to unlock the ecu will begin to lose money on their new bike sales. People will just buy older bikes plain and simple.They will have to give the peole what they want.Cash is always king.
Thats for any new bike, i have the 2021 ZX10r on hold for that same reason, of course thats going to happen, every tuner needs to learn the bike dude, dont bring that bike down that's one of the sexiest bike ever, so just chill and wait you'll get what you're looking for in mods just hang in there, this happened even with the 2020 and before that, its just what happens when a new bike comes along and they learn it. So people dont listen to this guy.
I have a ‘18 Raven R1, with a full Akrap. I know the thing would run smoother with a flash, but the backfire and crackling is absolutely intoxicating to me
I have a 2021 R1 Raven and to me it’s the baddest bike i ever owned/ do not need to flash cause when you get on it and hit the throttle it sounds like a jet with the stock exhaust and super fast !
@@asphaltannihilator157 True but just funny how privileged it sounds "Oh my 197hp track monster of a motorcycle that can go three times the speed limit in 1st gear can't be unlocked for better performance, it's a bad bike"
@@ohad.5890 It's a valid point. Most of us who go and spend the money on a new machine aren't looking to keep it stock, we want to make the price tag worth it. If you love the bike and don't care about wringing out all the performance locked away under restrictions than feel free to buy it, but the man is entitled to his opinion and many of us share it. I'd have never bought my 2019 CBR1000RR, the straight up least powerful new liter bike with the heaviest restrictions, if I hadn't been able to flash the ecu. Even with a full exhaust and dyno tune the thing is still less powerful than most stock liter bikes of today. When you pay almost 20k for performance, you want to maximize that performance you paid so much for and get the most bang for your buck.
I kind of sort of bought a 2021 R1 today 🤷🏻♀️ pick it up tomorrow 10am. I’m so excited but I’m also full of anxiety lol.. it’s a huge purchase for a bike and it’s new and I squeal, blush, and get butterflies every time I see it. Currently drive a 05 R1, first bike. Still nervous to get on this thing.
just got out of a coma from a ladie running a stop sign and side swiping me and watching your videos always makes me wanna ride i almost died but ill still be out on 2 wheels again
But also tho, imagine not recommending a bike because you cant ecu-flash it. I live in a country where i can't even legally take out the db killer or an already pretty quiet bike. Like my cb500f with a mivv gp slipon would probably still be more quiet than a lawnmower. My bike without any slipon was more quiet than my neighbours r6, with an sc (kat and killer in). I do get it, you want thó get the most about a bike. But that's like a small problem compared to what can be done and is allowed to be done on a bike.
could not agree more, I spent months working and saving specifically for the newest 2020 r1 of my dreams and quite simply it isn't smooth enough stock. the power gains are amazing but the smooth power delivery from a tune would make this bike a real competitor with the BMW
Me being happy that I'm getting my first bike tomorrow... (Sherco SMR 50cc, cuz of European regulations) Motonosity: I'm not happy my R1 can't go faster! ( No hate, just funny to me)
As fun as the big bore bike are, theres always more fun to be had on the small bikes. You can beat the shit out of them without getting too stupid fast. I still never had as much fun as I have had on my old 1980 GS450.
i got the 20R1 just put on my austin racing GP1RR de-cat exhaust system sounds like a super lion feels amazing but all i can do right now is use someone's address so i can buy a power commander California doesn't allow pc here some bs but love the bike and sound ive hit 186MPH at stock
i don't think i'll ever buy a 1000. Im going way over the speed limit before i even shift to 2, and you don't have to give so much gas for that. I like to utilise all the gears, shifting for some reason makes alot of fun. And i don't want to ride recklessly and potentially kill someone from my riding either. I'll probably get a cbr650r (mainly because of the looks), and maybe an even smaller bike, maybe a 300 for short zaps around the city.
Have you looked into the mt07, great bike and honestly I ride fast too but that’s just me, I stay away from cars and stick to the highway and windy roads
@@TheAETHER22 thats even dumber than "loud pipes save lives", because we all know someone who doesn't see you wont hear you either. Distraction doesn't only block out one sence
@@mikehunt8037 riding on the autobahn is in my opinion boring, and the windy roads we have here are capped at max 100kmh (61mph). also if they are not already capped at 70 or something like that
you can show your speed. people on yt do illegal stunts, 200 mph rides, police chases, and show their faces.. thats dumb, but still, they do it. i ride slightly illegally and dont show my face and plate. cops could get my ip if they wanted to but thered be no reason for them to do that unless i was uploading like a drug deal
I love the video’s!!! I just got a 2021 R1 2 weeks ago, I love it it’s always been my dream bike since the 09 R1 raven addition. But I’m coming from an R3 so there’s a big difference for me then what you feel from 1,000 cc to another 1,000 cc 🏍
I have a 2020 R1M and my dyno tuner installed the Rapid Bike Evo for the 2020 R1. My bike was actually the first one installed in the world. It is tuned more perfectly than any bike I've ever owned top to bottom achieving around 218HP at the crank. Massively improved the bike's performance off the mark and fueling even at idle. Happy to send you the dyno charts and videos. Maybe go see a professional instead of trying to do it at home in your garage with a shitty handheld tuner.
I would definitely buy the new R1, flash or no flash...it looks great and sounds amazing and it competes well against the competition in every bike comparison test on the track I've seen. It's still a track slayer stock, ill be aight. 😏
Just get a different year so you can flash it tbh. My 2015 without a flash was lame for lack of better words. Once I got it flashed it felt like a much better bike
just get a 2019 I have a 2020 its not worth it the flash makes it way more powerful and more importantly the delivery of said power more smooth and usable
My son follows you but not your advice so much because yesterday he just bought a 2021 R1 from Austin rides off of braker Ln . I'm picking it up tomorrow for him because the prep team left before he was done with the purchase. Hope theres a remedy soon. I had a 2009 r1 and now my son is giving me the itch again.
I'm pretty sure they don't want you to flash that bike. My evidence is based on the Snowmobiles. Those are instantly unlockable. You can tune them up to 270HP with just a ECU re-flash straight out of the box. Why you can't do that with the bikes?
that looks like more bike than the majority of riders can realistically handle. why you would be wanting to get rid of it because you cant hack it to get more speed out of it is beyond me.
I’m buying a Yamaha R1…2015 and below with the twin exhaust but not the cross plane because somebody told me that it has starting problems…cranking or some issues…is this true?…thanks in advance
Soon I'm going to buy my first mini bike, and am considering buying my first motorcycle afterwards. I will mainly cruise on the roads because I'm in California, and everyday there are a lot of reckless drivers, and distracted drivers here. The state should ban them from driving, and they should have to use public transit. Not including thousands injuries...almost 4,000 people died in California because of traffic accidents in 2020 alone.
This video hit the nail on the head. I have a 2020 R1 and have been waiting almost a year for the flash. Going forward I will not buy a motorcycle until it has been unlocked. Really like the bike but the restrictions are holding back the real performance. Getting close to saying bye to it and getting an S1000RR.
can't you just take the R1 to a Yamaha dealer and they can download whatever tune you want into the ECU? I realize it's not the same as putting your bike on the dyno, but I think if tell them your riding style and what exhaust you put on, they can get pretty close. Then again, I'm not into modern bikes, I still ride one with a carburetor, LOL
Yo I need advice. Will be in the market for a little bike coke spring, stuck on Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki. Which one do y’all prefer and why? ( I’m leaning torwards Honda )
I have a 2020 R1 as well. I had a 2016 Aprilia rsv4 that I used for track days and never had it flashed so I guess it’s not a huge deal. With that being said, if the ecu is ever cracked, I’ll put a pipe on mine and have it flashed.
After it's flashed you need to actually do a full titanium exhaust system. With catalytic converter delete and make sure you get a two brothers full carbon fiber M2 Black Series exhaust system. And K&N air filter and you might even want a different air filter box. One that will allow it to breathe better. Then after you've got all that done go back and have a full custom Dyno tune. By Moore Mafia. They do amazing work the bike should be putting out right at 200 horsepower at the rear wheel by the time you get all that done. If you really wanted to step up your game I would go with rotobox carbon fiber Wheels and full Brembo brakes. By that point you should probably have just about the baddest bike in town
I know this video is a few months old so Im hoping you see this. Any recommendations for a place to flash tune my R1? I want to send my ECU out I just want to make sure I send it to a good place.
This is why I’m waiting to purchase the 2021 ZX10R because that bike is so restricted up top it would be annoying riding it unflashed. Plus I want the aftermarket to be fully stocked with parts for it so I can mod it.
@@mbal4052 I had the 2015 Superduke 1290r sold it in 2019 I recently came across a 2017 Fz10 brand new in fall of 2020 for 9k USD had 7 miles on it I couldn’t pass the steal on it! Very happy with the FZ10 feels just as fun to ride as my Old Superduke! Previously had a 2016 R1 and sold that bike and brought the FZ wanted something more comfortable! The fz10 is a really good bang for the buck vs the 17-18k supernakeds!
Since selling my 2018 V4S for my next bike I've narrowed it down to the 2020 RSV4 Factory, the 2021 S1000rr M package or the 2020 R1m If they don't unlock the R1 ecu then I will not be getting a 2020 R1m
So , Your saying Don't buy a 2020 R1 Because no one does a ECM Flash ??? I have the 2015 and there are MANY Places you can get ECM Updates from , These are SUCH Nice Bikes , I do not feel this is a valid reason to Discourage Buyer's from Buying them !!! 90 % of buyers Never use the bikes full Potential !! Yes , My bike is Flashed , All factory Restrictions have been removed 190 + HP , But We are the 10 % that MUST have it ALL , Thank's Bro
So you’re crying about Yamaha for not giving you permission to make their already fast motorcycle even faster? That hardly sounds like a valid point as to why not to buy a R1 and this is coming from someone who doesn’t really care for the R1.
I have a 2020 R1 as well. Currently has a race pipe. Still waiting on a legit tuner to be released. I know when it does you'll be the person I hear about it from. Lost a lot of top end taking that cat and pipe off, but man does it sound like pure sex. I don't need to tell you. There's no way I'm putting that cat back on though, unless I need warranty work of course. : - )
Maybe it’s because I don’t ride sport bikes. It doesn’t really matter to me. If it performs how I want stock and I can change the exhaust without getting a ton of decel pop. I’m happy. I’d be more unhappy if there wasn’t any aftermarket support to make the bike more comfortable and usable. I’m not a fabricator so I rely on the aftermarket for that stuff.
Have to disagree here. Locking down the ECU is a liability thing.. If they just opened it right up, they might open themselves to be liable for people screwing up their bikes. It’s a tough spot for them. It also will be unlocked eventually by a smart person and I think that is important. Technology changes and the aftermarket market is always a step behind in the motorcycle market. They need to step up and invest in smart people who can crack it. I guarantee there is the knowledge out there to do so.
I got the 2020 r1. And its totally stock and it wows everyone that sees it. Except for its incredibly quiet exhaust and cat. But 2wycked still smokes most of the competition regardless. 198 horsepower isnt a joke. But yes, an ECU flash would be nice.
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Yeah don't worry, wasn't planning to for a long time 😂
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I havent been watching motovlogging in years now. I came back and your one of the only original motovloggers that still makes videos primarily about motorcycles. I love you for that man. Stay safe
This is the worst mindset "i dont like the fact that I can't max the bike out"... that would never be a reason to hinder me from obtaining a bike that appeals to me personally
Max out a bike and rarely hitting that limit. Dude, with all the bikes you buy, hit the track and use what you got.
Exactly like he’s engaged in SBK championship
+Lex King Vlogs It's not about maxing the bike out, it's only about having the AFR adjusted properly. R1 2020 runs very poorly at around 6-7k RPM and has flatspot which feels like there is "water in fuel". Also the low rpm the bike is lazy and when you shift into first gear and want to go faster it likes to stall sometimes. We don't need 210hp, we need a bike that has 180ish hp with smooth power delivery. If this issue with new R1 continues, I will be switching back to full stock exhaust(even on stock exhaust bike is lean).
@@sufilms8878 so it’s not about actually flashing the ECU it’s about a design problem because you want something more attuned for street riding? This guy does a shit job of actually explaining the real problem.
I have to partly agree. I want a bike that I can almost max out. I like the feeling of having some power left in my bike, so I won't get bored as quickly because I feel like I can handle the max of my bike easily. On the other hand, I don't want a bike where I lose my license if I max out 1st gear (such like the R1 or S1000RR). A Yamaha MT-09 (or other bikes with similar power figures and configured engines for torque in the lower rev range) are the sweet spot for me personally (on the public road, on the track this doesn't apply ofcourse)
not going to share it but man I know exactly where you're riding and now I know I've heard you pass by my house before haha.
Same bro except the gas stations in the vids
Mexico Is beautiful isn’t it?
If you ride, I’m in the same city!
Try to film it. Hard but would be cool
Fbi, open up
As someone who isn't very mechanically inclined with motorcycles im perfectly fine keeping the bike stock except for a few visual mods and an exhaust.
same
Nothing to do with being mechanically inclined, you just send in your ecu to get flashed and get it back in the mail. Or take it to a shop to get it dyno tuned. Either way if you're putting an exhaust on then might as well tune your bike. You have no clue what you're missing out on.
@@Александар.П I understand. I'm just saying that I'd be more than happy with a mostly stock bike. Ecu or not
He says its raining so much bruh i just got 14inches of snow 😂
what a dream, its like around the freezing here but we only got 2cm of snow max 3 times. which all melted the same day
Yep! Same here, like two months to the riding season 🙄
Im in Boston lmao only couple more months before the 2020 R6 gets to slayin
Same here
I live in Austin too and if he says it’s raining it’s not raining it hardly rains
A tuner in the uk has put a 2015 ecu in a 2020 bike, it’s making a lot more bhp
That's a pretty good idea
Do you know how much more horse power?
Whole point of the 2020 is the ecu tho...
@@Harnishchappy not sure sorry
@@YamahaR12015 yea I think they are experimenting with the older ECU until they figure out how to flash the new one
Ecu flash is a ridiculously silly reason not to buy an R1.. there is no streets in the world that you actually need an ECU flash. Even for track use you don't need an ECU flash 🤦
Just bought a 2021 Raven Edition the day after Christmas. Just can't beat the looks, especially that tail section, the sound, and the respect that the R1 demands. It's not the fastest, but it is the best looking IMO
It would take a lot more than having to wait for a ECU flash for me not to by a R1, I purchased a 2020 r1m last year witch is the 5th R1 that I’ve owned . When ever I’m in the market for a bike i go to the dealership and look at all the bikes and I always leave with the R1, looks wise the other bikes just don’t compare (the only time i didn’t think that was 09 to 14 R1 🤮) and the seating position just fits me better. And at the end of the day its a solid bike on a solid platform ( i have never had any problems with any of the r1’s that i have owned). Now as far as the other bike i was looking at for 2020 was the BMW S1000RR and after some research finding out that they were having problems with front brakes leaking , rims cracking , cold start issues (that require a flash ) and a dead spot at 5000 to 7000 rpm (that required a flash) all those problems made my choice very easy.
That’s right!!
The R1 wins my vote as well. Tried a few other bikes and really liked the S1000RR But read/saw the issues with the S1000RR. Plus at the time I was possibly looking to purchase the S1000RR they had stopped shipment in the states due to issues with the bike. They had some lame excuse for why they were so back ordered but it was issues after researching.
Then I saw Yamaha R1’s changes for their 2020’s and jumped on it ASAP.
I was able to get my R1M in late November 2019.
It is disappointing that there’s no ECU FLASH. I had a full Austin racing exhaust put on in the first 30 days I owned the bike (thinking the ECU would be out in 3-5 months). I’m getting tired of the backfiring and bad fuel consumption but I love the bike.
Let’s just hope that ECU flash hits the airways soon. It’s making Yamaha look bad and not good for business.
Come on Yamaha, give us the damn map for the ECU flash already!!
Same here the R1 just looks amazing but i am not getting what you don’t like about the 09-14?? I’ve not owned one but think it may be the best looking year!! For me it’s between the 04-06,07-08,&09-14 and all 3 gens just look amazing.
@@jacobhendrickson8935 just something about the shape of the bike durning those years that i didn’t like, i loved the 04-06/07-08 body styles and the under tail exhaust, i had 05 ,06,08. And i also like the 15’s all the way up to 21’s.
@@floydlias4172 I had a Race prepped 2015 R1( with race fairings, Brembo M50 monoblocs, with RCS 19s, and bigger windvisor, changed internals (bigger cams), ECU flash, austin racing race exhaust full system (except the headers), and carbon fibre wheels, pirelli slicks (it was not street legal anyways, track only), it made like 210-220hp at the wheel, like fricking hell, (it was really overgeared for top speeds of 370kph+ lol)
But if i had to buy one today as a track bike? it's definitely gonna be the ZX-10R, but if money wasn't a problem it would be the CBR-1000RR-R SP.
IG: GunmanTalksBikes (my r1 posts there too.
Germans will never catch up with Japan end of story
I have the 2020 R1. The bike is sick right from the factory. I agree with your frustration on the ECU flash. But overall I love the bike and it's performance right out the door. Put 10k miles in the first 9 months and no problems other than the quieter exhaust
Gotta love MKBHD. I love seeing the automotive/bike world and tech world cross paths
Where was he?
@@jonathanng138 I can't tell if you're genuinely confused or just playing lol
@@duncan9751 Is this a reference to Matte Black Everything? Lol
@@TheMrProboscis originally, no. But now that you mention it... I'm even more in favor the matte black everything movement
You mean cross..planes...
I have an 06' R1, and if I were to get a newer one. I'd get either a 17' or 18'.
apostrophe goes in front, bruh (e.g. '17)
19 was the last year of the previous body style.
Yea my 17 ate up the 2020 even tho dude took of first here’s a link to my video vs a 2020
ruclips.net/video/x-ClGjLsIa4/видео.html
06 is my fav one
@@r1racing17 It also depends on the rider and mods. Just cause you beat him doesn't mean you won't beat someone else on a '20.
Motonosity you need to contact Moore Mafia or Brock himself they can help you with the ECU and also F1 Air Filter and Carbon Wheels
Moore Mafia would be a safer bet because they've worked with multiple 2020 R1s
In Bmw s1000 case it's about 45hp in the mid range. The bike frankly sucks without a tune and I'll is more dangerous without tune, as the power comes on violently after about 9k rpm. Tune gives a nice linear power increase through the dome.
These companies that make it so difficult to unlock the ecu will begin to lose money on their new bike sales. People will just buy older bikes plain and simple.They will have to give the peole what they want.Cash is always king.
Thats for any new bike, i have the 2021 ZX10r on hold for that same reason, of course thats going to happen, every tuner needs to learn the bike dude, dont bring that bike down that's one of the sexiest bike ever, so just chill and wait you'll get what you're looking for in mods just hang in there, this happened even with the 2020 and before that, its just what happens when a new bike comes along and they learn it. So people dont listen to this guy.
So true John. I agree this guys jumping the gun just relax it’ll be worth waiting for…
The first H2 took nearly a year and a half for an ECU flash. Now us kawasaki owners are facing it again.
I absolutely love my 2020 R1! I am plenty satisfied with it as is.
lol you have to be.
@@deronthomas1566 Your bike either has stock exhaust or you can't ride it. R1 2021 runs poor when decatalyzed.
SU Films huh? I don’t have an R1. I couldn’t care less about them. I ride something a little bit faster and lighter
@@deronthomas1566 Sorry Deron, somehow I replied to you. I wanted to reply to ForeverCello.
By the way, what do you ride Deron?
SU Films a Yamasaki Samurai 300. 😂
Ive done 15000 km on my 2020 R1 last year (EU) and have been on track with it as well. No ECU flash is fine.
I have a ‘18 Raven R1, with a full Akrap. I know the thing would run smoother with a flash, but the backfire and crackling is absolutely intoxicating to me
Got a 04 R1, two brothers exhaust the backfires like crazy
I have a 2021 R1 Raven and to me it’s the baddest bike i ever owned/ do not need to flash cause when you get on it and hit the throttle it sounds like a jet with the stock exhaust and super fast !
You will see the problems with the R1 2021 once you get decat. Many new R1 have blown up because of the engine running too lean.
@@sufilms8878 no they haven't.
Ahh.. just reached yamaha showroom.. will head back home now!
Rich people problems
You don't have to be rich to finance a bike.
@@asphaltannihilator157 True but just funny how privileged it sounds "Oh my 197hp track monster of a motorcycle that can go three times the speed limit in 1st gear can't be unlocked for better performance, it's a bad bike"
@@ohad.5890 It's a valid point. Most of us who go and spend the money on a new machine aren't looking to keep it stock, we want to make the price tag worth it. If you love the bike and don't care about wringing out all the performance locked away under restrictions than feel free to buy it, but the man is entitled to his opinion and many of us share it. I'd have never bought my 2019 CBR1000RR, the straight up least powerful new liter bike with the heaviest restrictions, if I hadn't been able to flash the ecu. Even with a full exhaust and dyno tune the thing is still less powerful than most stock liter bikes of today. When you pay almost 20k for performance, you want to maximize that performance you paid so much for and get the most bang for your buck.
@@asphaltannihilator157 That's true, I agree.
It's costing me ALL my savings but I'm picking up an 03 R1 on Saturday lol
Is all you do is riding in a straight line doing pulls?
what I commented. rides in a straight line all day and wants more power from an already insane fast bike...blows my mind
let people ride how they want
I kind of sort of bought a 2021 R1 today 🤷🏻♀️ pick it up tomorrow 10am. I’m so excited but I’m also full of anxiety lol.. it’s a huge purchase for a bike and it’s new and I squeal, blush, and get butterflies every time I see it. Currently drive a 05 R1, first bike. Still nervous to get on this thing.
Already secured financing for 2021 zx10r but waiting until ecu gets unlocked before I make the jump....
Moore mafia did it last week check him out
just got out of a coma from a ladie running a stop sign and side swiping me and watching your videos always makes me wanna ride i almost died but ill still be out on 2 wheels again
Welcome back to the land of the living, fren. Hope your dreams were amazing in your stasis.
Hell I did it was great getting back on 2's
Well you can flash it now, I’m having mine flashed
Don’t buy it…I love it…I don’t get it? You love it but don’t buy it?
The framerate hurts my brain
Yeah should’ve went 60fps for this video. Too much movement to be below 60fps.
I hate 60fps
@@motonosity you freak of nature
@@motonosity but you are not the one watching the videos
@@scyra9997 I don’t watch my videos? Bro what??
Just got a speeding ticket here in Dallas while listening to this video... 88 in a 60
But also tho, imagine not recommending a bike because you cant ecu-flash it. I live in a country where i can't even legally take out the db killer or an already pretty quiet bike. Like my cb500f with a mivv gp slipon would probably still be more quiet than a lawnmower. My bike without any slipon was more quiet than my neighbours r6, with an sc (kat and killer in).
I do get it, you want thó get the most about a bike. But that's like a small problem compared to what can be done and is allowed to be done on a bike.
could not agree more, I spent months working and saving specifically for the newest 2020 r1 of my dreams and quite simply it isn't smooth enough stock. the power gains are amazing but the smooth power delivery from a tune would make this bike a real competitor with the BMW
Great vid man, but I think it's still a bike you should have a ride on in your life. Its soooo cool looking.
Me being happy that I'm getting my first bike tomorrow... (Sherco SMR 50cc, cuz of European regulations)
Motonosity: I'm not happy my R1 can't go faster!
( No hate, just funny to me)
As fun as the big bore bike are, theres always more fun to be had on the small bikes. You can beat the shit out of them without getting too stupid fast. I still never had as much fun as I have had on my old 1980 GS450.
i got the 20R1 just put on my austin racing GP1RR de-cat exhaust system sounds like a super lion feels amazing but all i can do right now is use someone's address so i can buy a power commander California doesn't allow pc here some bs but love the bike and sound ive hit 186MPH at stock
worth the wait tho
Hi pal thats some insane quality, wanted to ask which camera you using ? Thanks
i don't think i'll ever buy a 1000. Im going way over the speed limit before i even shift to 2, and you don't have to give so much gas for that.
I like to utilise all the gears, shifting for some reason makes alot of fun. And i don't want to ride recklessly and potentially kill someone from my riding either.
I'll probably get a cbr650r (mainly because of the looks), and maybe an even smaller bike, maybe a 300 for short zaps around the city.
Have you looked into the mt07, great bike and honestly I ride fast too but that’s just me, I stay away from cars and stick to the highway and windy roads
Always ride it like you stole it
@@mikehunt8037 the mt07 sounds like a great bike, but again cbr650r only for the looks. and maybe the 4cyl vibe.
the new 07 looks weirtd tho
@@TheAETHER22 thats even dumber than "loud pipes save lives", because we all know someone who doesn't see you wont hear you either. Distraction doesn't only block out one sence
@@mikehunt8037 riding on the autobahn is in my opinion boring, and the windy roads we have here are capped at max 100kmh (61mph). also if they are not already capped at 70 or something like that
So what bike do u recommend a litre bike which is comfortable than other super bikes and still able to to track day like an enthusiast
0:00 like waking up a monster 🔥🔥😭
Tuning is everything these days. Most the bikes on the market barely let the throttle bodies fully open even when 100% (rpm limited)
I love your videos man! Makes me miss my R6 with all this canadian snow!!
Hope you're finding some positives in it dude! I'd trade ya for a white winter.
Well, if you strugle with the electronics, get a Kit ECU and programm it.
That would be one of the easiest ways to get to that point.
@Motonosity - With this sense, if you changed the exhaust and cat delete -will it damage the engine of the r1 by having only the stock ECU?
Is showing the speed not a problem unless you show your plate?
you can show your speed. people on yt do illegal stunts, 200 mph rides, police chases, and show their faces.. thats dumb, but still, they do it. i ride slightly illegally and dont show my face and plate. cops could get my ip if they wanted to but thered be no reason for them to do that unless i was uploading like a drug deal
I love the video’s!!! I just got a 2021 R1 2 weeks ago, I love it it’s always been my dream bike since the 09 R1 raven addition. But I’m coming from an R3 so there’s a big difference for me then what you feel from 1,000 cc to another 1,000 cc 🏍
Absolutely man! I'm confident it'll EVENTUALLY get unlocked haha. But you've got a lot of bike to enjoy until then.
@@motonosity Right!!!! Smiling ear to ear the entire time
Thats my one of the reason why I cant buy the new R1. I’d rather have the 17-19 R1.
I have a 2020 R1M and my dyno tuner installed the Rapid Bike Evo for the 2020 R1. My bike was actually the first one installed in the world. It is tuned more perfectly than any bike I've ever owned top to bottom achieving around 218HP at the crank. Massively improved the bike's performance off the mark and fueling even at idle. Happy to send you the dyno charts and videos. Maybe go see a professional instead of trying to do it at home in your garage with a shitty handheld tuner.
Hi dude what’s the name and address of the garage you went to ?
I would definitely buy the new R1, flash or no flash...it looks great and sounds amazing and it competes well against the competition in every bike comparison test on the track I've seen. It's still a track slayer stock, ill be aight. 😏
Ya id buy the r1 knowing i couldnt flash it.
Just get a different year so you can flash it tbh. My 2015 without a flash was lame for lack of better words. Once I got it flashed it felt like a much better bike
just get a 2019 I have a 2020 its not worth it the flash makes it way more powerful and more importantly the delivery of said power more smooth and usable
Sup brother. What camera and audio setup are you using for your vids? I’m going to do vids like this this year.
What are your gopro settings to get that amazing effect when your riding? I cant get this quality on my hero 5 black 😭😭😭
check out my helmet setup video
ruclips.net/video/Ro6gUXbeEd8/видео.html
@@motonosity thanks! Just did ill try it out thanks a lot man appreciate the help haha didnt expect a reply 😉
My son follows you but not your advice so much because yesterday he just bought a 2021 R1 from Austin rides off of braker Ln . I'm picking it up tomorrow for him because the prep team left before he was done with the purchase. Hope theres a remedy soon. I had a 2009 r1 and now my son is giving me the itch again.
What Camera are you using to record on your motorcycle pal looks Mega
I'm pretty sure they don't want you to flash that bike. My evidence is based on the Snowmobiles. Those are instantly unlockable. You can tune them up to 270HP with just a ECU re-flash straight out of the box. Why you can't do that with the bikes?
Is this problem fixed with the 2023?
that looks like more bike than the majority of riders can realistically handle. why you would be wanting to get rid of it because you cant hack it to get more speed out of it is beyond me.
I’m buying a Yamaha R1…2015 and below with the twin exhaust but not the cross plane because somebody told me that it has starting problems…cranking or some issues…is this true?…thanks in advance
I'd love to see a pitbike supermoto build for fun 👍😂
Man I've always wanted to do when as a replica for my CRF
@@motonosity do it 🤣
The crf150r is a great bike. I race mini moto and tons of fun. I run a yz85 mini supermoto
@@motonosity it’s almost like you still haven’t finished the grom...
Man just love the thumbnail. And you write don't buy the new R1.😂
So basically if you put exhaust on it, you can’t tune it for the exhaust?
I don't think the main issue is getting into the ecu. Its all the tables they have now and working out what they do and what there for.
Soon I'm going to buy my first mini bike, and am considering buying my first motorcycle afterwards. I will mainly cruise on the roads because I'm in California, and everyday there are a lot of reckless drivers, and distracted drivers here. The state should ban them from driving, and they should have to use public transit. Not including thousands injuries...almost 4,000 people died in California because of traffic accidents in 2020 alone.
This video hit the nail on the head. I have a 2020 R1 and have been waiting almost a year for the flash. Going forward I will not buy a motorcycle until it has been unlocked. Really like the bike but the restrictions are holding back the real performance. Getting close to saying bye to it and getting an S1000RR.
Just make a lil money and/ or get a older r1 as long as its crossplain there all beautiful anyways 🤷♂️💯🤘
can't you just take the R1 to a Yamaha dealer and they can download whatever tune you want into the ECU? I realize it's not the same as putting your bike on the dyno, but I think if tell them your riding style and what exhaust you put on, they can get pretty close.
Then again, I'm not into modern bikes, I still ride one with a carburetor, LOL
Had to wait two years for a company to finally support my bike. It’s incredibly frustrating
So now that they have a ECU flash out for it have you done that yet
The lack of defensive lane positioning is so off putting
Yo I need advice. Will be in the market for a little bike coke spring, stuck on Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki. Which one do y’all prefer and why? ( I’m leaning torwards Honda )
Litre**
Let Chris Moore look at it.down at Moore Mafia.
I'm pretty sure he can straighten out the ECU so the throttle will quit bouncing
What tires are you running? They kinda look like the q3 but a bit different?
I have never had that weird noise come from my bike while letting go off throttle. Also, my 2020 R1 is flashed
I have a 2020 R1 as well. I had a 2016 Aprilia rsv4 that I used for track days and never had it flashed so I guess it’s not a huge deal. With that being said, if the ecu is ever cracked, I’ll put a pipe on mine and have it flashed.
After it's flashed you need to actually do a full titanium exhaust system. With catalytic converter delete and make sure you get a two brothers full carbon fiber M2 Black Series exhaust system. And K&N air filter and you might even want a different air filter box. One that will allow it to breathe better. Then after you've got all that done go back and have a full custom Dyno tune. By Moore Mafia.
They do amazing work the bike should be putting out right at 200 horsepower at the rear wheel by the time you get all that done. If you really wanted to step up your game I would go with rotobox carbon fiber Wheels and full Brembo brakes. By that point you should probably have just about the baddest bike in town
Dude how long does it take you to process and ship orders ? Goin on 2 weeks since I ordered and paid ! What up ?
You need to redo this... Out of date
I did
I know this video is a few months old so Im hoping you see this. Any recommendations for a place to flash tune my R1? I want to send my ECU out I just want to make sure I send it to a good place.
I have a CBR 1000, got mine done through Toce when I bought their exhaust, makes a world of difference
@@RLogan-sl7xl appreciate it thanks brotha
This is why I’m waiting to purchase the 2021 ZX10R because that bike is so restricted up top it would be annoying riding it unflashed. Plus I want the aftermarket to be fully stocked with parts for it so I can mod it.
Yes I would buy it just gotta be patient for the flash
Yeah i bought mine back in July. Really pissed about the restricted ECU
I am a brand new, novice rider. Can someone tell me in plain English what he’s complaining about and WHY I/We shouldn’t get the ‘20 R1? Flashed???
Im not experience in bike things but can someone explain me why he is upset and what is ECU flash ? Is it a tuning thing ?
I have the 2019 mt10 with a race ecu and love it just not the fuel mileage...
I have a 2018 mt10 also with an ECU flash and akrapovic exhaust...the night and day difference 🤤
MT10 is a mighty bike, I had one for 3 years. I traded it for a new KTM 1290 which I love but the MT will always give me good memories
@@mbal4052 I had the 2015 Superduke 1290r sold it in 2019 I recently came across a 2017 Fz10 brand new in fall of 2020 for 9k USD had 7 miles on it I couldn’t pass the steal on it! Very happy with the FZ10 feels just as fun to ride as my Old Superduke! Previously had a 2016 R1 and sold that bike and brought the FZ wanted something more comfortable! The fz10 is a really good bang for the buck vs the 17-18k supernakeds!
We need to see this up against the S1000rr now that you’ve got the chain and sprocket done
he's not using the clutch to change gears? that might make a problem.
Sooner or later someone will crack the ECU.
201WHP after tune. It's from a race team they did it but they didn't share it lol
@@callsignkasper624 either NDA with Yamaha, or replaced entire ECU.
Since selling my 2018 V4S
for my next bike I've narrowed it down to the 2020 RSV4 Factory, the 2021 S1000rr M package or the 2020 R1m
If they don't unlock the R1 ecu then I will not be getting a 2020 R1m
Get the RSV4 1100 Factory
@@saswatmishra2759 only if he is short
Looking to add in a 18’ R1 soon. Will have an MT10 with it as well.
So , Your saying Don't buy a 2020 R1 Because no one does a ECM Flash ??? I have the 2015 and there are MANY Places you can get ECM Updates from , These are SUCH Nice Bikes , I do not feel this is a valid reason to Discourage
Buyer's from Buying them !!! 90 % of buyers Never use the bikes full Potential !! Yes , My bike is Flashed , All factory
Restrictions have been removed 190 + HP , But We are the 10 % that MUST have it ALL , Thank's Bro
Your bike seems like it’s running great. What is it exactly your wanting to do in the ecu? Just curious
Never mind you basically just answered my question lol 😂
So you’re crying about Yamaha for not giving you permission to make their already fast motorcycle even faster? That hardly sounds like a valid point as to why not to buy a R1 and this is coming from someone who doesn’t really care for the R1.
What RPM do the R1's sit on at 110km/h or I think 70+ mpr?
I got my 2020 r1 in February of 2020. Love the bike but the no flash 1.5 years later still hurts lol.
Can you do a new bike build but go to the max like Jaret Campisi?
I have a 2020 R1 as well. Currently has a race pipe. Still waiting on a legit tuner to be released. I know when it does you'll be the person I hear about it from. Lost a lot of top end taking that cat and pipe off, but man does it sound like pure sex. I don't need to tell you. There's no way I'm putting that cat back on though, unless I need warranty work of course. : - )
looks like bren tunning has a ecu flash 191whp with exhaust ! , did it come out after this video ?
Maybe it’s because I don’t ride sport bikes. It doesn’t really matter to me. If it performs how I want stock and I can change the exhaust without getting a ton of decel pop. I’m happy. I’d be more unhappy if there wasn’t any aftermarket support to make the bike more comfortable and usable. I’m not a fabricator so I rely on the aftermarket for that stuff.
Have to disagree here. Locking down the ECU is a liability thing.. If they just opened it right up, they might open themselves to be liable for people screwing up their bikes.
It’s a tough spot for them. It also will be unlocked eventually by a smart person and I think that is important. Technology changes and the aftermarket market is always a step behind in the motorcycle market. They need to step up and invest in smart people who can crack it. I guarantee there is the knowledge out there to do so.
Wait, I don't get it... Are American ecu's restricted in some way?
I got the 2020 r1. And its totally stock and it wows everyone that sees it. Except for its incredibly quiet exhaust and cat. But 2wycked still smokes most of the competition regardless. 198 horsepower isnt a joke. But yes, an ECU flash would be nice.
I wouldn't buy a sport bike that couldn't be flashed. What is the point of that ?
What is the business model behind making your ECU un crackable?
How many times have you fallen off a bike?