Seinfeld's Elaine Benes, Explained: Comedy’s Unconventional Feminist Heroine

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
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    Seinfeld’s Elaine Benes is one of the most iconic and hilarious characters of the 90s - played by the comedy legend, Julia Louis-Dreyfus. She stood out for being the only woman of the friend group, but also because she was (at least at first) also less cynical than her friends. Her confidence and unapologetic attitude were refreshing and radical, and her character opened the door for so many of our faves that followed after. So let’s turn back the clock and analyze what made Elaine so different, why she became such an iconic and beloved character, and how, even if she wasn’t always a great person, she still managed to be a new kind of role model.
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Intro
    00:37 Equally flawed and fabulous
    02:27 Choosing herself no matter what
    05:10 Thanks to Zoc Doc!
    06:56 Changing the on screen convo about relationships
    10:06 Working her way to the top
    15:29 The queen of enough is enough
    16:51 Why Elaine was a trail blazer
    The Take was created by Debra Minoff & Susannah McCullough
    This video was written by Stevie Lazarus, narrated by Charly Bivona, produced by Jessica Babineaux, and edited by Travis Martin
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  • @thetake
    @thetake  Месяц назад +9

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  • @deborahelizabeth3788
    @deborahelizabeth3788 Месяц назад +206

    While Elaine is morally flawed, she’s one of my favorite characters BECAUSE she treats men and women equally. She did put George in his place, for example, when he didn’t want to date a bald girl and he was bald. I’d rather root for a woman who is morally flawed when it comes to all of society, than a pick me who just treats men well.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Месяц назад +170

    I love that Elaine liked to think that she was the voice of reason out of the group, when really she was just as petty and self absorbed as the guy. They made a great call of casting Julia Louis Dreyfus, as she gelled in well, despite not being in the original pilot.

    • @MaliceInCandyland
      @MaliceInCandyland Месяц назад +8

      Jerry is the mom friend but he's also a kid at heart. He eats sugary kids cereal and wants the toy prize inside, watches WB cartoons, and reads DC comics. There's nowhere near an 'adult' or a voice of reason between the four of them.

    • @jamiefrontiera1671
      @jamiefrontiera1671 Месяц назад +3

      Nothing brought that fact home more than the episode with her and bizarro Jerry, where at the end she does her get out shove, only to be kicked out of bizarro Jerry's group 😂

    • @MaliceInCandyland
      @MaliceInCandyland Месяц назад +6

      @@jamiefrontiera1671 Elaine thinks she's more competent than she is (ex. when she ran the J. Peterman company). Jerry thinks he's a better person than he is. Kramer thinks he's cooler than he is. And George thinks he's more successful than he is.

    • @jamiefrontiera1671
      @jamiefrontiera1671 Месяц назад

      @@MaliceInCandyland wasn't disagreeing with your first point

    • @MaliceInCandyland
      @MaliceInCandyland Месяц назад

      @@jamiefrontiera1671 I know I'm just saying they all have inflated egos.

  • @PassiveAgressive319
    @PassiveAgressive319 Месяц назад +78

    It’s funny because Julia did grow up extremely privileged. Her father was a billionaire and her lineage goes back to Alfred Dreyfus. So playing snobby, wealthy Elaine was right up her street. It does seem that she worked hard in her career though, and that is admirable.

    • @aliciamiro9529
      @aliciamiro9529 Месяц назад +8

      Oh yeah, I definitely think she works hard and really cares about her craft. I think I knew she came from money but dang, I didn't know how much money!

    • @cheesecake134
      @cheesecake134 Месяц назад +12

      It makes me wonder if Elaine’s backstory was inspired by her own? I know Larry David based a lot of characters and situations on real life.

  • @PhoebeFayRuthLouise
    @PhoebeFayRuthLouise Месяц назад +57

    I still laugh just thinking about how Elaine pushed the guys, her throwing George’s toupee out the window, and her saying, “The dingo ate your baby!”

  • @ALittlePriest101
    @ALittlePriest101 Месяц назад +35

    I love that when the network mandated they had a female character in the show and then they thought "what kind of woman would hang out with Jerry and George?" and thus Elaine was born

  • @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
    @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 Месяц назад +50

    I always loved Elaine. She was okay the first two seasons, then the writers finally realized the absolute ICON that is Julia and gave her some seriously excellent dialogue, which made her the best of the bunch for the next seven seasons. I still randomly think about the fight that Elaine has with George's father, and I nearly pass out laughing!!! And don't get me started on my ultimate favorite episode *The Backward Episode* when Sue Ellen Mischke got married in India. 🤣😂😅🤣😅🤣😆😅😄🤣😂

  • @roadrollerdio565
    @roadrollerdio565 Месяц назад +42

    The Elaine Benes to Dee Reynolds (Always Sunny) pipeline is fascinating and worthy of analysis.

  • @ahunt1054
    @ahunt1054 Месяц назад +41

    I always loved Elaine. She's my spirit animal.

  • @Jonteponte71
    @Jonteponte71 Месяц назад +43

    Elaine Benes is one of the funniest female characters ever. Played by one of the most talanted comediennes ever.
    If she would have been an actual person, she would have scared the bejeesus out of me.

  • @dplunk13
    @dplunk13 Месяц назад +25

    Elaine was right up there with Buffy for me as important female characters when I was growing up. She was so real and unabashed. Didn't take shit from anyone. Really helped pave the way for my feminism.

  • @biljam972
    @biljam972 Месяц назад +28

    Julia is great comediene! She is great in this role, no one could play Elaine better than she did.

  • @michellecrocker2485
    @michellecrocker2485 Месяц назад +7

    Exactly! Society teaches women to endure with what bugs us. Elaine reacted the way we all want to when we’ve reached our limits and it’s almost like Elaine was acting for us, in ways we wished 90s society would let us and even nowadays

  • @annejohnson5875
    @annejohnson5875 Месяц назад +22

    Not a huge fan of Seinfeld, I don't hate it either. But Julia Louis Dreyfus is a fantastic comedic actress. She was also excellent in "the New Adventures of Old Christine" and "Veep".

  • @plasticjesus444
    @plasticjesus444 Месяц назад +55

    Great video! However you guys did spell politic wrong (polotic) and it’s Mr. Pitt not Mr. Lip and J Peterman not Peterson. Someone needed to look over this one more time before posting!

    • @emilyburton4095
      @emilyburton4095 Месяц назад +9

      Yes. There's Mr. Pitt and Mr. Lipman, but no Mr. Lip. Some fact-checking is in order.

    • @TheCoolCookieKitchen
      @TheCoolCookieKitchen Месяц назад +1

      People do that now in order to get that type of engagement that you just did right there… you making that comment is gonna push it through the algorithm.

    • @sesaarinen
      @sesaarinen Месяц назад

      Didn't got the message, huh?

  • @MR-hu3ht
    @MR-hu3ht Месяц назад +16

    So many factual errors in this. Kramer was the first one out of the contest, not Elaine. Top Of The Muffin was started by Mr. Lippman and Elaine partnered with him, not Kramer. Also when Elaine was fired as CEO of Peterman, she went back to her previous job as catalog writer, she didn't go back to editing at a publishing company.

    • @nicoleclark5271
      @nicoleclark5271 24 дня назад

      Also, it's "Mr. Pitt" not "Mr. Lip".... The basics for this are so important too.

  • @gregoryseewald5066
    @gregoryseewald5066 Месяц назад +22

    Minor error: It's PeterMan not PeterSON.

    • @Jurnee87
      @Jurnee87 26 дней назад +1

      Yeah it's also Mr Pitt not Lip

  • @mlsaulnier
    @mlsaulnier Месяц назад +8

    Elaine was not the first to lose the contest. Kramer was. Elaine would give an eye roll for the shoddy research conducted for this video.

    • @derred723
      @derred723 Месяц назад +2

      don't know about the shade, but yeah true. Kramer loses it quick.

  • @emilycurtis4398
    @emilycurtis4398 Месяц назад +9

    I love Elaine. As a kid I wanted her confidence and ambition, I'm much more laid back as an adult though. And I'm with Puddy, "feels like an Arby's night."

  • @BigMacCoyle
    @BigMacCoyle Месяц назад +11

    This is the first time I've ever noticed errors in your videos. Whoa. Didn't think that'd ever happen.

  • @ponderingsfromthemothercit8347
    @ponderingsfromthemothercit8347 Месяц назад +7

    So weird how so many Elaine analysis videos are coming up. I love it!

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 Месяц назад +15

    Love her character

  • @derred723
    @derred723 Месяц назад +1

    I'm on the floor. That show was pure brilliance. Elaine was top tier. Top TIER! I'm here saying every line right back at the screen. "look, i'd don't want to say grace!"

  • @rtothec1234
    @rtothec1234 Месяц назад +9

    Elaine was the Babs bunny of sitcom characters.

    • @MaliceInCandyland
      @MaliceInCandyland Месяц назад +1

      There's actually an episode where Jerry is watching Tiny Toons and singing along lmao.

    • @emilyburton4095
      @emilyburton4095 Месяц назад

      Bugs?

    • @lindawilson8154
      @lindawilson8154 Месяц назад

      ​@emilyburton4095 Babs -- little girl bunny in Tiny Toons.

    • @emilyburton4095
      @emilyburton4095 Месяц назад

      @@lindawilson8154 Oops, my bad.

  • @hannrkelley
    @hannrkelley Месяц назад +3

    Ooohh I'd love to see a video on Fran Fine! Her and Elaine are similar in so many ways! Flaws and all! I adore them both. ❤

  • @anaabroken
    @anaabroken Месяц назад +12

    who revised this? got names wrong and she partnered with mr. lippman not kramer for “top of the muffin to you!”

  • @JanellFrazier
    @JanellFrazier Месяц назад +4

    This makes me want to rewatch Seinfeld

  • @chanmarr8118
    @chanmarr8118 Месяц назад +4

    I mostly watch episodes from S3 and later and didn’t even pick up on the fact that her and Jerry dated in the past. I also love how she had many relationships and wasn’t judged for it. She was almost like another guy in the group.

  • @bossfan49
    @bossfan49 Месяц назад +4

    *Politics, not polotics. At 11:40... You kept saying "Mr. Lipp." No such person. Her boss in publishing was Mr. Lippman. The eccentric boss was Mr. Pitt. She didn't partner with Kramer on any business venture. She partnered with Mr. Lippman.

  • @mulesalumina7220
    @mulesalumina7220 Месяц назад +5

    Still one of my faves to this day!

  • @djbennett900
    @djbennett900 Месяц назад +2

    I was in my late thirties when this show premiered and I found Julia to be the hottest woman in show business by season three. This is some good thinking. Thank you!

  • @DhooomKetu
    @DhooomKetu Месяц назад +5

    She is comedic queen no doubt, loved her in Veep too . Enough said movie with James gandolfini was good too

  • @derrickbrossard1966
    @derrickbrossard1966 Месяц назад +5

    Kramer was the first to lose the bet not Elaine

  • @mbanerjee5889
    @mbanerjee5889 Месяц назад +6

    Elaine is a great example of a funny character that happens to be female, not a "funny female character".

  • @rahshidawalker1350
    @rahshidawalker1350 Месяц назад +1

    Quick correction: Elaine was the SECOND person to cave in "The Contest." Kramer succumbed first after watching the woman in the next building walking around naked.

  • @batgurrl
    @batgurrl Месяц назад +7

    Elaine was my absolute favorite of the 4 friends. Your description of her was spot on. I give huge credit to JLD’s acting abilities. Are you Sponge Worthy. Fake, Fake, Fake. Pretty good. (Sex with Jerry). I Yada Yada Yadaed Sex

  • @KaritKtana
    @KaritKtana Месяц назад

    I didn't realize how much influence this character had on me growing up!
    I was too young to understand half of what was happening on Seinfeld (The Bet episode?? Haha I was perplexed for years 😂), but looking back, Elaine is SUCH a refreshing character. I almost took it for granted that she is the way she is... And I'm kinda like that too 😅

  • @mooncrowsong
    @mooncrowsong Месяц назад +2

    Great to see focus on Elaine! I appreciate this video. One small, picky thing - Elaine wasn't the first out of The Contest , that was Kramer. But point well taken.

  • @starbrite526
    @starbrite526 Месяц назад +1

    You must of sensed that I just completed my biennial rewatch of Seinfeld recently by posting this

  • @ZZealot
    @ZZealot Месяц назад

    Elaine is one of my all time favorite heroes.

  • @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
    @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Месяц назад +4

    Seinfeld was such a good show!

  • @wvu05
    @wvu05 Месяц назад +1

    11:44 I think you conflated Mr. Lippman (the Pendant boss) and Mr. Pitt.

  • @TheCoolCookieKitchen
    @TheCoolCookieKitchen Месяц назад

    That was really well done and he’s giving me a newfound respect for the Elaine character

  • @afterdinnercreations936
    @afterdinnercreations936 Месяц назад +5

    7:35 - 7-43
    That's not correct. Kramer caved first.

  • @mintisthenewblack
    @mintisthenewblack Месяц назад

    I love Elaine, I'm glad you include the Queen Victoria's Cake moment 🤭

  • @dirgewordsmithe
    @dirgewordsmithe Месяц назад +2

    Lol @ "empowering women to be...(all the bad traits that they dislike about men)" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @nicolehuff8455
    @nicolehuff8455 Месяц назад

    4:39 I share Elaine's passion about punctuation 😂

  • @eml3077
    @eml3077 Месяц назад

    So many women in entertainment like shows, movies even in in music are portrayed as love obsessed and Elaine just doesn't give a fuck. I really appreciate it because I'm like that in a way too 😊 she keeps it real like what her priorities are and doesn't fuck around

  • @wvu05
    @wvu05 Месяц назад +1

    7:34 No, Kramer was the first to lose the bet when he saw the naked woman across the street.

  • @ameliat8981
    @ameliat8981 Месяц назад

    Thank you for ending that with my favorite quote 😅

  • @magpie9223
    @magpie9223 Месяц назад

    I love Elaine.
    Spongy Worthy and Nip are my fave episodes.
    We are from the same town so have always felt so connected :)

  • @morbidsearch
    @morbidsearch Месяц назад +1

    I assume the people at The Take also got recommended that video of Elaine's dancing being edited into Never Gonna Give You Up

  • @kathleenandrews8171
    @kathleenandrews8171 Месяц назад

    great episode

  • @jeank8061
    @jeank8061 Месяц назад

    Love love love her wacky, strong character; her bending of gender norms and stereotypes; her comedic brilliance!

  • @frankinsaneandmyrrh1202
    @frankinsaneandmyrrh1202 Месяц назад

    Elaine may not be a great person, but she's a great character. As a female character in particular, I feel like she humanizes us. And Julia is a comedic genius, too.

  • @lyrialzander
    @lyrialzander Месяц назад +1

    Things were indeed different with women in the workplace, I remember the first Sexual Harassment in the Workplace case I heard of was because of the infamous "Mulva" joke.

  • @sharyebethancourt3660
    @sharyebethancourt3660 Месяц назад +4

    I love her character so much!

  • @fderfegtgtrrt949
    @fderfegtgtrrt949 Месяц назад

    I freaking love Elaine! Best girl!

  • @derangedone13
    @derangedone13 Месяц назад +2

    Was there Sims 4 theme music playing throughout this?? It was sort of distracting. 😅
    Love Elaine though!

  • @HarryBuddhaPalm
    @HarryBuddhaPalm Месяц назад

    I saw a video the other day about Elaine and it made the case that Elaine was in love with Jerry and that's why she hung around with him so much and Jerry wasn't in love with her at all but he liked that she loved him. There was plenty of evidence to support the theory.

  • @susanmurphy958
    @susanmurphy958 Месяц назад +1

    Mr. Lipman.

  • @supaspydamn
    @supaspydamn Месяц назад

    All hail Elaine!

  • @wvu05
    @wvu05 Месяц назад +1

    15:13 No. Elaine returns to the Peterman catalog. Some simple proofreading would have gone a long way.

  •  Месяц назад

    What about a take on Susie Green of Curb Your Enthusiasm 😊

  • @mechagirl1986
    @mechagirl1986 Месяц назад

    Elaine is my astral animal

  • @derred723
    @derred723 Месяц назад

    "Are youi the master of your own domain?"

  • @michellecrocker2485
    @michellecrocker2485 Месяц назад

    What I really like is that the show could have made her the token female character but they made her just as bad as the guys and it made her tough and able to catch up with them

  • @steve_santiago
    @steve_santiago Месяц назад

    Elaine Marie Benes 😍

  • @aduckofsomesort
    @aduckofsomesort Месяц назад +1

    A channel with this many subscribers and frequently gets a lot of views on their videos should have better fact checking, or at least have someone watch the video before it gets posted. Does the editor’s computer really not have automatic spellcheck?

  • @MillennialMcGuyver
    @MillennialMcGuyver Месяц назад +3

    I love that both of the ego-centric bosses’ names were butchered 😂 Not sure if that was intentional or not but I’m sure Mr Pitt and J Peterman wouldn’t approve lol

  • @WayTooClose
    @WayTooClose Месяц назад

    I believe Kramer what's the first out of the contest, not Elaine. Great video nonetheless.

  • @isabelfernandes778
    @isabelfernandes778 Месяц назад +3

    💜💜💜

  • @saking91kingsley43
    @saking91kingsley43 Месяц назад +1

    Peterman, not Peterson.

  • @TimCarter
    @TimCarter Месяц назад +1

    You probably shouldn't let AI write your scripts.

  • @artarealmblazer8452
    @artarealmblazer8452 Месяц назад +12

    She's like Dee from Always Sunny. She too started off as the presumed voice of reason before she eventually went off the rails cause she was just as self serving as the other guys.

  • @mwittner63
    @mwittner63 15 дней назад

    It was Mr. Pitt, not Mr. Lip

  • @MackeyDeez
    @MackeyDeez Месяц назад

    Elaine is an example of the ex girlfriend becoming one of your guy friends. I mean not all break ups end in a "f" you because sometimes plutonic friendships can happen between exes.

  • @ButterflyBandit88
    @ButterflyBandit88 Месяц назад

  • @Amish_Trivedi
    @Amish_Trivedi Месяц назад +1

    Mr. Pitt.

  • @LeahWalentosky
    @LeahWalentosky Месяц назад

    16:05 that line was funny because Julia was pregnant in that episode

  • @realkingofantarctica
    @realkingofantarctica Месяц назад +2

    Girl Failure, Girl Boss, or Femcel? Call it.

  • @parhambahrami8622
    @parhambahrami8622 Месяц назад +1

    Taking of George’s headpiece was a shit move, a lot of men go through balding due the stresses of life, and for a guy like George hairpiece really was one of the two choices

  • @QueenDany69
    @QueenDany69 Месяц назад

    *_that shove tho_*

  • @michaelcamp4990
    @michaelcamp4990 Месяц назад

    Mr. Lipp? thought it was Mr. Pitt

    • @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
      @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 Месяц назад +3

      It _is_ Mr. Pitt. And it's J. Peterman, not Peterson like they said in the video. I guess they don't have editors or people who can read the script before they do the video.

  • @QueenDany69
    @QueenDany69 Месяц назад +4

    the *_dingo_* ate your baby

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 Месяц назад

      One of the early great Elaine moments. Too bad that NBC messed up and aired that episode in season 3.

  • @itsjanolli
    @itsjanolli 7 дней назад

    I love how as the show goes on tho she becomes less n less the "voice of reason" and her storylines become just as unhinge as george's

  • @beniverson3777
    @beniverson3777 4 дня назад

    You got the name of major characters wrong

  • @eileenrivera6142
    @eileenrivera6142 Месяц назад

    Sorry it's Mr. Pitt

  • @strells
    @strells Месяц назад

    “Polotics”? I think this is supposed to be “Politics”.

  • @emilyburton4095
    @emilyburton4095 Месяц назад +3

    Polotics?

  • @georgemason4921
    @georgemason4921 Месяц назад

    Meuh.

  • @ilikeditbetterbefore
    @ilikeditbetterbefore Месяц назад

    It's J PETERMAN

  • @bossfan49
    @bossfan49 Месяц назад +1

    I used to look at her as just a funny, fresh, original character handily portrayed by a talented comedic actor. Picking her apart like this kinda ruins it for me, retroactively applying an agenda to her. I doubt that much thought was put into it. I think the writers and actors just did what they thought was funny.

  • @pistachiosandpopcorn7146
    @pistachiosandpopcorn7146 Месяц назад +3

    Elaine was so far from pick me it’s not even funny. Wtf is this video talking about ?!

    • @garfieldkater5469
      @garfieldkater5469 Месяц назад

      the video literally said that.... just concentrate before complaining

  • @renshiwu305
    @renshiwu305 Месяц назад

    I didn't think Elaine was particularly funny. There were multitudes of characters on _Seinfeld_ who were funnier than Elaine: Newman, Frank Costanza, Puddy, Bania, Uncle Leo, "George Steinbrenner," etc. Same with _Veep_ - Mike, Gary, Ben Cafferty, and Roger Furlong were funnier than Julia Louis-Dreyfus' title character.

  • @emilyburton4095
    @emilyburton4095 Месяц назад +1

    J. PETERMAN.

  • @doubledown0411
    @doubledown0411 Месяц назад +1

    This is FULL of mistakes. Who wrote this? Usually you guys aren't this sloppy.

  • @nomemories130
    @nomemories130 Месяц назад

    She was the least realistic of the main cast though because Jerry Seinfeld would never have sex with a woman his own age.

  • @aricuap
    @aricuap Месяц назад

    Hate Seinfeld, but love Elaine ❤

  • @Chris-rg6nm
    @Chris-rg6nm Месяц назад

    This channel really fell off