While Elaine is morally flawed, she’s one of my favorite characters BECAUSE she treats men and women equally. She did put George in his place, for example, when he didn’t want to date a bald girl and he was bald. I’d rather root for a woman who is morally flawed when it comes to all of society, than a pick me who just treats men well.
It's completely absurd to criticise a man for not wanting to date a bald woman in spite of his being bald himself when baldness is so strongly associated with men. It's like saying a woman is a hypocrite if she won't date men with a high-pitched voice.
@@felipenachmanowicz9393 No, she was the worst. Jerry was rather selfish, George was manipulative (and vindictive and petty and needy) and Kramer was irresponsible. But Elaine always acted like a selfish bully. Almost like a female version of a sexist jock. I think the character is likeable just because of the actress' performance and energy. You look into her eyes and see the humanity behind the neurosis. Same for all of them.
I love that Elaine liked to think that she was the voice of reason out of the group, when really she was just as petty and self absorbed as the guy. They made a great call of casting Julia Louis Dreyfus, as she gelled in well, despite not being in the original pilot.
Jerry is the mom friend but he's also a kid at heart. He eats sugary kids cereal and wants the toy prize inside, watches WB cartoons, and reads DC comics. There's nowhere near an 'adult' or a voice of reason between the four of them.
Nothing brought that fact home more than the episode with her and bizarro Jerry, where at the end she does her get out shove, only to be kicked out of bizarro Jerry's group 😂
@@jamiefrontiera1671 Elaine thinks she's more competent than she is (ex. when she ran the J. Peterman company). Jerry thinks he's a better person than he is. Kramer thinks he's cooler than he is. And George thinks he's more successful than he is.
I love that when the network mandated they had a female character in the show and then they thought "what kind of woman would hang out with Jerry and George?" and thus Elaine was born
I always loved Elaine. She was okay the first two seasons, then the writers finally realized the absolute ICON that is Julia and gave her some seriously excellent dialogue, which made her the best of the bunch for the next seven seasons. I still randomly think about the fight that Elaine has with George's father, and I nearly pass out laughing!!! And don't get me started on my ultimate favorite episode *The Backward Episode* when Sue Ellen Mischke got married in India. 🤣😂😅🤣😅🤣😆😅😄🤣😂
Elaine Benes is one of the funniest female characters ever. Played by one of the most talanted comediennes ever. If she would have been an actual person, she would have scared the bejeesus out of me.
Exactly! Society teaches women to endure with what bugs us. Elaine reacted the way we all want to when we’ve reached our limits and it’s almost like Elaine was acting for us, in ways we wished 90s society would let us and even nowadays
It’s funny because Julia did grow up extremely privileged. Her father was a billionaire and her lineage goes back to Alfred Dreyfus. So playing snobby, wealthy Elaine was right up her street. It does seem that she worked hard in her career though, and that is admirable.
Oh yeah, I definitely think she works hard and really cares about her craft. I think I knew she came from money but dang, I didn't know how much money!
Elaine was right up there with Buffy for me as important female characters when I was growing up. She was so real and unabashed. Didn't take shit from anyone. Really helped pave the way for my feminism.
Great video! However you guys did spell politic wrong (polotic) and it’s Mr. Pitt not Mr. Lip and J Peterman not Peterson. Someone needed to look over this one more time before posting!
People do that now in order to get that type of engagement that you just did right there… you making that comment is gonna push it through the algorithm.
So many factual errors in this. Kramer was the first one out of the contest, not Elaine. Top Of The Muffin was started by Mr. Lippman and Elaine partnered with him, not Kramer. Also when Elaine was fired as CEO of Peterman, she went back to her previous job as catalog writer, she didn't go back to editing at a publishing company.
Another “video essay” based on half remembered things from the show, hastily made. There’s definitely a worth topic here, but this was obviously rushed through.
Not a huge fan of Seinfeld, I don't hate it either. But Julia Louis Dreyfus is a fantastic comedic actress. She was also excellent in "the New Adventures of Old Christine" and "Veep".
I love Elaine. As a kid I wanted her confidence and ambition, I'm much more laid back as an adult though. And I'm with Puddy, "feels like an Arby's night."
I'm on the floor. That show was pure brilliance. Elaine was top tier. Top TIER! I'm here saying every line right back at the screen. "look, i'd don't want to say grace!"
I was in my late thirties when this show premiered and I found Julia to be the hottest woman in show business by season three. This is some good thinking. Thank you!
*Politics, not polotics. At 11:40... You kept saying "Mr. Lipp." No such person. Her boss in publishing was Mr. Lippman. The eccentric boss was Mr. Pitt. She didn't partner with Kramer on any business venture. She partnered with Mr. Lippman.
I didn't realize how much influence this character had on me growing up! I was too young to understand half of what was happening on Seinfeld (The Bet episode?? Haha I was perplexed for years 😂), but looking back, Elaine is SUCH a refreshing character. I almost took it for granted that she is the way she is... And I'm kinda like that too 😅
Great to see focus on Elaine! I appreciate this video. One small, picky thing - Elaine wasn't the first out of The Contest , that was Kramer. But point well taken.
I mostly watch episodes from S3 and later and didn’t even pick up on the fact that her and Jerry dated in the past. I also love how she had many relationships and wasn’t judged for it. She was almost like another guy in the group.
Quick correction: Elaine was the SECOND person to cave in "The Contest." Kramer succumbed first after watching the woman in the next building walking around naked.
Elaine may not be a great person, but she's a great character. As a female character in particular, I feel like she humanizes us. And Julia is a comedic genius, too.
Elaine was my absolute favorite of the 4 friends. Your description of her was spot on. I give huge credit to JLD’s acting abilities. Are you Sponge Worthy. Fake, Fake, Fake. Pretty good. (Sex with Jerry). I Yada Yada Yadaed Sex
So many women in entertainment like shows, movies even in in music are portrayed as love obsessed and Elaine just doesn't give a fuck. I really appreciate it because I'm like that in a way too 😊 she keeps it real like what her priorities are and doesn't fuck around
One of the best things about Elaine is that she never ever - was in relationship-with Jerry , during the duration of the show. Refreshing - so many shows fall into that trap - at some point . Elaine was the best
Elaine is an example of the ex girlfriend becoming one of your guy friends. I mean not all break ups end in a "f" you because sometimes plutonic friendships can happen between exes.
Things were indeed different with women in the workplace, I remember the first Sexual Harassment in the Workplace case I heard of was because of the infamous "Mulva" joke.
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What about a take on Susie Green of Curb Your Enthusiasm 😊
I saw a video the other day about Elaine and it made the case that Elaine was in love with Jerry and that's why she hung around with him so much and Jerry wasn't in love with her at all but he liked that she loved him. There was plenty of evidence to support the theory.
What I really like is that the show could have made her the token female character but they made her just as bad as the guys and it made her tough and able to catch up with them
A channel with this many subscribers and frequently gets a lot of views on their videos should have better fact checking, or at least have someone watch the video before it gets posted. Does the editor’s computer really not have automatic spellcheck?
I love that both of the ego-centric bosses’ names were butchered 😂 Not sure if that was intentional or not but I’m sure Mr Pitt and J Peterman wouldn’t approve lol
Taking of George’s headpiece was a shit move, a lot of men go through balding due the stresses of life, and for a guy like George hairpiece really was one of the two choices
It _is_ Mr. Pitt. And it's J. Peterman, not Peterson like they said in the video. I guess they don't have editors or people who can read the script before they do the video.
I didn't think Elaine was particularly funny. There were multitudes of characters on _Seinfeld_ who were funnier than Elaine: Newman, Frank Costanza, Puddy, Bania, Uncle Leo, "George Steinbrenner," etc. Same with _Veep_ - Mike, Gary, Ben Cafferty, and Roger Furlong were funnier than Julia Louis-Dreyfus' title character.
I used to look at her as just a funny, fresh, original character handily portrayed by a talented comedic actor. Picking her apart like this kinda ruins it for me, retroactively applying an agenda to her. I doubt that much thought was put into it. I think the writers and actors just did what they thought was funny.
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While Elaine is morally flawed, she’s one of my favorite characters BECAUSE she treats men and women equally. She did put George in his place, for example, when he didn’t want to date a bald girl and he was bald. I’d rather root for a woman who is morally flawed when it comes to all of society, than a pick me who just treats men well.
I guess on Seinfeld's standards, Elaine is pretty virtuous.
It's completely absurd to criticise a man for not wanting to date a bald woman in spite of his being bald himself when baldness is so strongly associated with men. It's like saying a woman is a hypocrite if she won't date men with a high-pitched voice.
@@felipenachmanowicz9393 No, she was the worst. Jerry was rather selfish, George was manipulative (and vindictive and petty and needy) and Kramer was irresponsible. But Elaine always acted like a selfish bully. Almost like a female version of a sexist jock. I think the character is likeable just because of the actress' performance and energy. You look into her eyes and see the humanity behind the neurosis. Same for all of them.
I love that Elaine liked to think that she was the voice of reason out of the group, when really she was just as petty and self absorbed as the guy. They made a great call of casting Julia Louis Dreyfus, as she gelled in well, despite not being in the original pilot.
Jerry is the mom friend but he's also a kid at heart. He eats sugary kids cereal and wants the toy prize inside, watches WB cartoons, and reads DC comics. There's nowhere near an 'adult' or a voice of reason between the four of them.
Nothing brought that fact home more than the episode with her and bizarro Jerry, where at the end she does her get out shove, only to be kicked out of bizarro Jerry's group 😂
@@jamiefrontiera1671 Elaine thinks she's more competent than she is (ex. when she ran the J. Peterman company). Jerry thinks he's a better person than he is. Kramer thinks he's cooler than he is. And George thinks he's more successful than he is.
@@MaliceInCandyland wasn't disagreeing with your first point
@@jamiefrontiera1671 I know I'm just saying they all have inflated egos.
I love that when the network mandated they had a female character in the show and then they thought "what kind of woman would hang out with Jerry and George?" and thus Elaine was born
Best commentary lol
I always loved Elaine. She was okay the first two seasons, then the writers finally realized the absolute ICON that is Julia and gave her some seriously excellent dialogue, which made her the best of the bunch for the next seven seasons. I still randomly think about the fight that Elaine has with George's father, and I nearly pass out laughing!!! And don't get me started on my ultimate favorite episode *The Backward Episode* when Sue Ellen Mischke got married in India. 🤣😂😅🤣😅🤣😆😅😄🤣😂
I still laugh just thinking about how Elaine pushed the guys, her throwing George’s toupee out the window, and her saying, “The dingo ate your baby!”
Elaine Benes is one of the funniest female characters ever. Played by one of the most talanted comediennes ever.
If she would have been an actual person, she would have scared the bejeesus out of me.
Exactly! Society teaches women to endure with what bugs us. Elaine reacted the way we all want to when we’ve reached our limits and it’s almost like Elaine was acting for us, in ways we wished 90s society would let us and even nowadays
It’s funny because Julia did grow up extremely privileged. Her father was a billionaire and her lineage goes back to Alfred Dreyfus. So playing snobby, wealthy Elaine was right up her street. It does seem that she worked hard in her career though, and that is admirable.
Oh yeah, I definitely think she works hard and really cares about her craft. I think I knew she came from money but dang, I didn't know how much money!
It makes me wonder if Elaine’s backstory was inspired by her own? I know Larry David based a lot of characters and situations on real life.
I always loved Elaine. She's my spirit animal.
Elaine was right up there with Buffy for me as important female characters when I was growing up. She was so real and unabashed. Didn't take shit from anyone. Really helped pave the way for my feminism.
The Elaine Benes to Dee Reynolds (Always Sunny) pipeline is fascinating and worthy of analysis.
Absolutely!!!
Yeah!!!!! Do it, Take team!
Ugh. No
Great video! However you guys did spell politic wrong (polotic) and it’s Mr. Pitt not Mr. Lip and J Peterman not Peterson. Someone needed to look over this one more time before posting!
Yes. There's Mr. Pitt and Mr. Lipman, but no Mr. Lip. Some fact-checking is in order.
People do that now in order to get that type of engagement that you just did right there… you making that comment is gonna push it through the algorithm.
Didn't got the message, huh?
So many factual errors in this. Kramer was the first one out of the contest, not Elaine. Top Of The Muffin was started by Mr. Lippman and Elaine partnered with him, not Kramer. Also when Elaine was fired as CEO of Peterman, she went back to her previous job as catalog writer, she didn't go back to editing at a publishing company.
Also, it's "Mr. Pitt" not "Mr. Lip".... The basics for this are so important too.
Another “video essay” based on half remembered things from the show, hastily made. There’s definitely a worth topic here, but this was obviously rushed through.
Julia is great comediene! She is great in this role, no one could play Elaine better than she did.
Elaine was not the first to lose the contest. Kramer was. Elaine would give an eye roll for the shoddy research conducted for this video.
don't know about the shade, but yeah true. Kramer loses it quick.
Not a huge fan of Seinfeld, I don't hate it either. But Julia Louis Dreyfus is a fantastic comedic actress. She was also excellent in "the New Adventures of Old Christine" and "Veep".
So weird how so many Elaine analysis videos are coming up. I love it!
Minor error: It's PeterMan not PeterSON.
Yeah it's also Mr Pitt not Lip
I love Elaine. As a kid I wanted her confidence and ambition, I'm much more laid back as an adult though. And I'm with Puddy, "feels like an Arby's night."
This is the first time I've ever noticed errors in your videos. Whoa. Didn't think that'd ever happen.
I'm on the floor. That show was pure brilliance. Elaine was top tier. Top TIER! I'm here saying every line right back at the screen. "look, i'd don't want to say grace!"
I was in my late thirties when this show premiered and I found Julia to be the hottest woman in show business by season three. This is some good thinking. Thank you!
Ooohh I'd love to see a video on Fran Fine! Her and Elaine are similar in so many ways! Flaws and all! I adore them both. ❤
This makes me want to rewatch Seinfeld
who revised this? got names wrong and she partnered with mr. lippman not kramer for “top of the muffin to you!”
*Politics, not polotics. At 11:40... You kept saying "Mr. Lipp." No such person. Her boss in publishing was Mr. Lippman. The eccentric boss was Mr. Pitt. She didn't partner with Kramer on any business venture. She partnered with Mr. Lippman.
Love her character
I didn't realize how much influence this character had on me growing up!
I was too young to understand half of what was happening on Seinfeld (The Bet episode?? Haha I was perplexed for years 😂), but looking back, Elaine is SUCH a refreshing character. I almost took it for granted that she is the way she is... And I'm kinda like that too 😅
Great to see focus on Elaine! I appreciate this video. One small, picky thing - Elaine wasn't the first out of The Contest , that was Kramer. But point well taken.
Still one of my faves to this day!
I mostly watch episodes from S3 and later and didn’t even pick up on the fact that her and Jerry dated in the past. I also love how she had many relationships and wasn’t judged for it. She was almost like another guy in the group.
Quick correction: Elaine was the SECOND person to cave in "The Contest." Kramer succumbed first after watching the woman in the next building walking around naked.
Elaine may not be a great person, but she's a great character. As a female character in particular, I feel like she humanizes us. And Julia is a comedic genius, too.
She is comedic queen no doubt, loved her in Veep too . Enough said movie with James gandolfini was good too
Elaine was my absolute favorite of the 4 friends. Your description of her was spot on. I give huge credit to JLD’s acting abilities. Are you Sponge Worthy. Fake, Fake, Fake. Pretty good. (Sex with Jerry). I Yada Yada Yadaed Sex
I love Elaine.
Spongy Worthy and Nip are my fave episodes.
We are from the same town so have always felt so connected :)
Elaine was the Babs bunny of sitcom characters.
There's actually an episode where Jerry is watching Tiny Toons and singing along lmao.
Bugs?
@emilyburton4095 Babs -- little girl bunny in Tiny Toons.
@@lindawilson8154 Oops, my bad.
Seinfeld was such a good show!
But most importantly, was Sponge Bob "sponge-worthy"?
Kramer was the first to lose the bet not Elaine
So many women in entertainment like shows, movies even in in music are portrayed as love obsessed and Elaine just doesn't give a fuck. I really appreciate it because I'm like that in a way too 😊 she keeps it real like what her priorities are and doesn't fuck around
That was really well done and he’s giving me a newfound respect for the Elaine character
11:44 I think you conflated Mr. Lippman (the Pendant boss) and Mr. Pitt.
Elaine is one of my all time favorite heroes.
7:35 - 7-43
That's not correct. Kramer caved first.
You must of sensed that I just completed my biennial rewatch of Seinfeld recently by posting this
One of the best things about Elaine is that she never ever - was in relationship-with Jerry , during the duration of the show. Refreshing - so many shows fall into that trap - at some point . Elaine was the best
I love Elaine, I'm glad you include the Queen Victoria's Cake moment 🤭
One of my favorite episodes 😂😂😂
4:39 I share Elaine's passion about punctuation 😂
7:34 No, Kramer was the first to lose the bet when he saw the naked woman across the street.
Elaine is an example of the ex girlfriend becoming one of your guy friends. I mean not all break ups end in a "f" you because sometimes plutonic friendships can happen between exes.
Lol @ "empowering women to be...(all the bad traits that they dislike about men)" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love love love her wacky, strong character; her bending of gender norms and stereotypes; her comedic brilliance!
It was Mr. Pitt, not Mr. Lip
Things were indeed different with women in the workplace, I remember the first Sexual Harassment in the Workplace case I heard of was because of the infamous "Mulva" joke.
What about a take on Susie Green of Curb Your Enthusiasm 😊
I assume the people at The Take also got recommended that video of Elaine's dancing being edited into Never Gonna Give You Up
Ooh what
Elaine is a great example of a funny character that happens to be female, not a "funny female character".
Thank you for ending that with my favorite quote 😅
Was there Sims 4 theme music playing throughout this?? It was sort of distracting. 😅
Love Elaine though!
I freaking love Elaine! Best girl!
I saw a video the other day about Elaine and it made the case that Elaine was in love with Jerry and that's why she hung around with him so much and Jerry wasn't in love with her at all but he liked that she loved him. There was plenty of evidence to support the theory.
What I really like is that the show could have made her the token female character but they made her just as bad as the guys and it made her tough and able to catch up with them
I love her character so much!
15:13 No. Elaine returns to the Peterman catalog. Some simple proofreading would have gone a long way.
All hail Elaine!
"2 weeks alone with Elaine in Europe that guy's going home in a body bag"
A channel with this many subscribers and frequently gets a lot of views on their videos should have better fact checking, or at least have someone watch the video before it gets posted. Does the editor’s computer really not have automatic spellcheck?
Elaine is my astral animal
Issa character on Insecure and Elaine on Seinfeld are more in sync as characters than Elaine and Carrie from Sex and the city
I believe Kramer what's the first out of the contest, not Elaine. Great video nonetheless.
great episode
"Are youi the master of your own domain?"
Elaine Marie Benes 😍
Mr. Lipman.
I love that both of the ego-centric bosses’ names were butchered 😂 Not sure if that was intentional or not but I’m sure Mr Pitt and J Peterman wouldn’t approve lol
Peterman, not Peterson.
16:05 that line was funny because Julia was pregnant in that episode
Girl Failure, Girl Boss, or Femcel? Call it.
Mr. Pitt.
Taking of George’s headpiece was a shit move, a lot of men go through balding due the stresses of life, and for a guy like George hairpiece really was one of the two choices
I love how as the show goes on tho she becomes less n less the "voice of reason" and her storylines become just as unhinge as george's
You got the name of major characters wrong
Polotics?
Sorry it's Mr. Pitt
Mr. Lipp? thought it was Mr. Pitt
It _is_ Mr. Pitt. And it's J. Peterman, not Peterson like they said in the video. I guess they don't have editors or people who can read the script before they do the video.
Mr Pitt not Mr Lipp
Hee 🤠 has, I had a date that took it Out 😮😂😂😂
She was the least realistic of the main cast though because Jerry Seinfeld would never have sex with a woman his own age.
“Polotics”? I think this is supposed to be “Politics”.
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Elaine was a brilliant character but the incessant whining and misandry in this commentary is unbearable
It's J PETERMAN
You probably shouldn't let AI write your scripts.
This is FULL of mistakes. Who wrote this? Usually you guys aren't this sloppy.
J. PETERMAN.
I didn't think Elaine was particularly funny. There were multitudes of characters on _Seinfeld_ who were funnier than Elaine: Newman, Frank Costanza, Puddy, Bania, Uncle Leo, "George Steinbrenner," etc. Same with _Veep_ - Mike, Gary, Ben Cafferty, and Roger Furlong were funnier than Julia Louis-Dreyfus' title character.
I used to look at her as just a funny, fresh, original character handily portrayed by a talented comedic actor. Picking her apart like this kinda ruins it for me, retroactively applying an agenda to her. I doubt that much thought was put into it. I think the writers and actors just did what they thought was funny.
Elaine was so far from pick me it’s not even funny. Wtf is this video talking about ?!
the video literally said that.... just concentrate before complaining