I am ANGRY, a little RANT video about photographers!! RED35 VLOG 130
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- A little ranting video from me after reading an article from BBC (and others) about a particular (famous) Lawson Japanese convenient store in Japan. This news isn't the first I've heard and in fact, I've seen it happening in UK. So this video is a message that I want to send out to other photographers and hope that we can change our behaviour and start to respect what's in front of our lens in order to preserve the beauty and the culture. Peace. #photography #Japan #travelvlog
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Wise words and thanks for sharing. However and unfortunately, I think the people causing most the trouble are not watching your (or my) channel. I believe, at least I'd like to believe, that most genuine photographers still have some respect left in them to behave accordingly.
Thanks Matti, haha but I think, despite I used "photographers" as my subject, I am also refer to general tourism too, I saw so many tourists throwing rubbish around, empty bottles, empty boxes... etc. We need to be more responsible and respect to others.
@@Red35Photography That was my point exactly😀
Unfortunately, the lack of respect these days goes a lot further than just at photo spots. It's a general issue in society, with increasing levels of rudeness and lack of consideration for others.
I got back from Japan last week. I couldn't believe the lack of respect from "influencers" they were absolutely everywhere in Kyoto particularly. Everyone thinks they have the right to space and time. Never experienced anything like it. They get to a location. Set up. Do a stupid dance of pose for their photos. Tut and huff at people for getting in the way....then leave. They don't enjoy the place or take it in. It's all for social media. Very sad.
Try the shibuya crossing at night. As soon as the crossing light turns green, hoards of influencers do tiktok dance, flash mobs, portrait scenes all while blocking people who are genuinely trying to get across
Damn.. back in 2018 I was solo traveling there and it was amazing, no influencers in sight. They totally bring down the vibe. I'd be so frustrated and tbh, I'd be the petty guy and mess with their shoot lol.
I live in Japan. There are places I don't go to anymore. I first visited Tokyo and Kyoto as a young man. Then, the majority of the people were local Japanese. You had a different vibe and feeling, now with social media and over-tourism certain places are avoided by the Japanese themselves. You lose the charm and authenticity there once was. I don't know the solution but try to respect others and the environment you are visiting.
Social media is built on the need for likes and acknowledgment to drive views. This attracts a sizable number of narcissistic people and this behavior is the result. It's not going to get better anytime soon.
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Irony is, that most of that IG content is poor visual quality with no added value at all.
Several years ago, photographers started throwing rocks at a nest of Eastern Screech Owls to get them to come out. The Nature Center had to put a wooden fence up to stop this action. That meant no one could see the Mama and babies! Therefore, I could not see them nor photograph them. I perfectly understand why you made this video. Bravo, Jimmy!
It's the fault of social media. Everyone wants to be famous in social media.
Forget the Japanese Lawson and photographers, even in the far North-East in India, vloggers posted about a very unique river canyon which lets you take amazing photos and videos…
6-12 months later, today I saw photo of that same canyon where there’s such a huge crowd in orange jackets standing and waiting that at first I thought it was a riot or something serious happening…then I realised that was the crowd waiting to enter the canyon! WTF…
Even the remote places are getting overcrowded…overtourism is a very real thing! And they are carrying their trash along with them too…
I totally agree, in Texas they fine US$ 1500 and upwards for littering. The fine simply cannot be high enough. I walk the dag daily the same route and pick up at least 3 to 4 pieces of plastic and trash, additionally to what my dog tends to drop. What is wrong with people. I respect Japan. Those places you’ve shown, Kyoto, Emporers palace in Tokio, just gorgeous. I personally enjoyed Yokohama and Kyoto Treinstation also. I have nothing but respect to keep those ultra busy places so clean and sorted.
Banning isn’t the answer. Orlando, Florida is the number one tourist destination in the world and we don’t ban here we enforce law breakers with stiff penalties. Make it hurt hard for people who decide they are going to break the rules
I sympathize. I also live near a hugely popular photo location: Lake Louise, Alberta. The post-Covid deluge of tourists there and in the town of Banff, make it impossible to visit in summer. Even the new $36 parking fee at Lake Louise doesn’t deter people - that’s if you can actually get a spot to park. Ironically, Banff National Park hosts busloads upon busloads of Japanese folks on tour buses. But that has been going on for decades. Many of the shops in Banff have Japanese speaking staff and signage. But those are not the problem. It’s the influencer-types. And now even those lesser known unique spots are being overtaken by these influencers. And a few times a year some fall to their death making that perfect social media photo while getting too close to the edge! But that doesn’t stop other people from trying. I think they need signs that say, “6 people died taking a photo here. Don’t be number 7!”
Fellow Albertan, and I too have noticed this surge in tourist traffic around Banff and Lake Louise. In general, I find photographers (in the the stricter definition) to be rather respectful of the environment and those around them, having a reasonable amount of self-awareness. But the vloggers? They're awful. They're loud, and dare-devilish, and get into strangers' faces more often than not, with zero concern for how they're ruining the experience of those around them. It's becoming a real issue.
Feeling your pain here in the western US,, Our parks and adjacent towns are getting overwhelmed,,, not to mention idiots falling off Grand Canyon rims and Yosemite waterfalls and being trampled by Elk and Bison in record numbers.
@@clintjohnson5914 Crazy isn't it? There are definitely lots of Darwin Awards being handed out to all those foolhardy folks!
My pet peeve is bird and wildlife photographers baiting with recordings or feeding birds to make them easier to photograph.
They don't care about the environment or the wildlife - only the number of views of likes they get on their socials.
I know, ethics in wildlife photography seem to no longer apply. And idiots with drones are the worst, one of the best places for birding near my home has been ruined and the birds have had their habitat ruined by drones.
Problem is that the people who do this are not real photographer but people searching fame, attention and money. They fight each other to get attention, fame and money. This has attitude has been always but it has became problamatic due to social media and the urge to get famous. This will not stop.
As a finnish person I avoid going to crowded places. More than 5 persons on a square kilometer is crowded. 😊
I've seen the similar trend in the automotive community and what I came to conclusion is that social media (and probably most industry) just awards bad behaviors. That have to change but with money and ego on the line, it'll be almost impossible without a breakthrough.
I am not aware of car advertising in your country, but here in Brasil the 4WD ads are shots of morons driving fast and spraying mud and shit everywhere, the small compacts aimed at 30 something's again driving fast and doing both idiotic and illegal things, like hanging out of lateral windows or standing and looking out of the sun roof. So much for safety standards and airbags 🥴
Conformity and one-upping is the real threat. People are proving they went to some famous place and re-created the exact same image as literally thousands of previous visitors. Why? So they can belong, or say “See? I belong in this elite group of travellers!” Or, “See my wealth and happiness, all the places I’ve gone and waved my arms!” Worse is the deeply over-casual attire many wear in traditional places. In that context, respect of the actual place, the locals, or other visitors does not matter. These are full grown adults, seeking prestige, and leaving behind filth and dismay. I’ve seen this every day of travel for months, and I find it so disturbing that it makes me look forward to being home and not witnessing reckless human vanity every day.
Just wait till the Chinese bloggers come to town! They come in their thousands everyday.
I wouldn't disagree, but only because they have the population and the money to travel over the past decade. But the behaviour is exactly the same for tourists from other places.
Wait till they find out we taste like chicken.
It’s a bit of a combination of simply too many people and a growing lack of courtesy and appreciation from those of us here. I chatted to Canadian national park ranger a few years ago and she noted that there are too many people showing up, most with little or no backcountry experience heading outbounds for photos and causing issues. She somewhat blamed social media. Many parks here now are adding permit requirements even for day trips in order to limit the number the people who can be there every day.
That lawson story has been blown out of all proportion, theyre not blocking the view so much as doing work on the building oposite to stop tourists crossing infront of the lawson.
Theres a crossing further up and down the street from that Lawson but tourists keep crossing back and forth infront of the store to get a shot instead, tripod on one side of the road pose in the other, so theyre making it so you cant stand the tripod over the road.
Its more a safety measure than an anti tourist thing. Check out "only from japan" johns been covering things like this in Japan since the 1990s for nhk and the like
The bigger one is tourism and problematic harassment in the gion district in Kyoto has gotten so bad they've now banned tourists from the whole district 😥
It's not proper photographers ruining places - it's those pesky Instragrammers.......
The fact you’re calling these people ‘photographers’ is frankly ridiculous. This is the kind of talk that creates a stigma about real photographers. These people are clearly tourists for the most part with the occasional influencer and photographer mixed in - I should know as I was there two months back. While the premise of this video is good, the clickbait title is only adding to the issues that real photographers now face. Blaming ‘photographers’ when they are clearly NOT, is only adding to the problem.
Yeah I think the distinction should be made.
The aftermath of “influencers” FOMO and insta…. Social Media…
A well done and needed heartfelt rant. Thank you.
Part of the issue is that everyone now has a camera. As such, everyone takes photos with their phones. I suspect a lot of this is people with their phones just getting a quick snap for their socials. I would assume a photographer is there for the beauty and as such would respect the surroundings. Perhaps I am just too nice to our fellow photographers but yeah.
Exactly. Some photographers end up giving all photographers a bad name when they don’t respect places, local customs or nature. Some structures where I live in Ontario, Canada, have been fenced off because people (not only photographers) insisted on climbing on them. A nature photo group I’m in has had to ban images of certain animals due to photographers baiting, scaring, etc. them to get “better” shots.
Absolutely spot-on! The world does NOT need any additional photos of Mesa Arch in Utah, the Moulson barn in Grand Teton, or a host of other places. Don't be lazy. Go find your own compositions.
I live 2 hours from that arch, but I don't go there because I know how crowded those places are. If there are more people than I see at the mall, it is no longer a wild place in my mind.
This should be applied globally. Respect to the world.
Hi from Oz, I echo @QuicknStraight's comments, sadly "respect" is something that's disappearing in many parts of society. Hopefully watching people like yourself with a high profile will help, though it starts in the home & in the upbringing, doesn't it?
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❤ Thank you so much for this video. All photographers should talk about respect a lot more.
The world is overcrowded and we who travel should be taught to respect the environment that we visit.
Do it again soon. We love you for it.
I don't understand why anybody would want to get the same shot as someone else. I would assume that photography is about being creative and finding unique perspectives.
But hey, I guess it's just another symptom of living in a hype cycle driven world.
Maybe there should be a distinction between photographers and people who take photos....
If I invest money on a trip/holiday to somewhere special I’ll take that photo of that place or object for ME,if someone else takes that same shot then what good is that to me if I don’t get it.Not everyone takes photos to post to social media…i would bet that you have several photos that others have taken….
This is a issue in every part of the world. I don't think there is anyway of getting around it. If they band people from taking photos then they might not travel and spend money.
Son muy interesantes los puntos expuestos sobre el tema.
Pienso que es falta de sentido común y sobre todo ser respetuoso del lugar que se está visitando.
No sé qué busca la gente con obtener likes en las redes sociales dedicadas a la fotografía 👀
Instagram ruined Photography!
And Facebook too!
@@Red35Photography yes, absolutely! It's so bad here in the USA. I have had to learn to find my own spots for photos and then not tell anyone where specifically it was taken.
What's the highest good for 80% of us? Our `selves'. The means justify the ends. My own grandeur. It's always been the case.
I grew up near Yellowstone National Park and the Tetons and it was bad enough in the 70-80s,, Now here in Utah we have 5 National parks and several state parks that are literally being "loved to death" by visitors. Not only is the trash and the wear and tear bad ,,but now..people are just ignoring the restrictions on environmentally fragile areas,,(that includes celebs like Pierce Brosnan,,fined at Yellowstone) ,,and treading right past the DO NOT ENTER signs. Don't get me started on the Tik Tokers...
Agree and RUclipsrs are the worst. I do not want to be in RUclipsrs content especially when I am a customer in say a hotel or restaurant. RUclipsrs have no respect for people at all, they care about their content and nothing else. Including folk in your monitised video without asking them is LACK OF RESPECT.
One of the locals in Wanaka, New Zealand cut off the lower branch of the iconic Wanaka Tree because he was tired of tourist coming over to that spot to take photographs.
Imagine the struggles of those documenting, Myanmar, Gaza, Ukraine and what restrictions are placed on them. Many die to maintain journalistic privileges. Even here in Thailand I am very selective about what I do. That's just a Lawsons. I think the ethics of photography has been lost to social media peacocking and aesthetics, that should be the genuine conversation between photographers right now.
It's not just photographers. It's tourists in general. Local governments are bringing in tourist taxes to reduce the numbers.
Here in the UK, Stone Henge was fenced off many years before the Internet was invented.
As a foreigner who has lived in Japan for more than 20 years now, I just thought I would throw in my 2 yen's worth of opinion about the deal in Japan at the moment. I work in Tokyo and live in Chiba. 1) I haven't seen the huge uptake in foreign tourists that seems to alarm many of the people who have written/posted articles about that problem. Do I see more gaijin now? Yes, with the yen worth less than toilet paper, it's a great time to come to Japan, trade your dollars, euros or pounds into yen and spend some money. But I do not see these tourists making scenes and disturbing the public except for some notable exceptions (Logan Paul and more recently some character who calls himself Johnny Somali) who make the news. I rarely go into the areas with lots of tourist attractions, so I admit that I am biased. 2) Japan is a much cleaner country than some and sections of Tokyo are very clean compared to other major world cities. However, these are usually the high traffic tourist areas. It's amazing how much trash I can find walking along a trail or riding my bicycle to the train station for work. I will go into the local bike trails by my house, places which are not listed on any "Must See/Experience" lists or websites. Last weekend, I counted all the abandoned appliances on my bike ride: 2 washing machines, 5 tvs (flat screen and cathode ray) and various rice cookers, frying pans and toaster ovens.
Mass tourism, a hot issue and with difficult solutions. I live in Barcelona where we have a very big problem with the amount op tourists coming every day. In summer is imposible to enjoy de city, the beaches, nor the citizens neither the tourists, nobody feels good. Everything is overbooked and dirty. There many beautiful places in Barcelona to photograph, but everybody goes to Sagrada Familia and less more. Common sense, the least common of the senses. I have many friends-photographers, they have also travel to Japan in different dates and the all come back with the same pictures.
Thank you Jimmy.
First of all, I'm very happy that you visited Japan and shared your views of its beauty. And I sincerely thank you for expressing your anger about the current "overtourism" that is said to be excessive visitors and behavior that destroys the landscape. Famous tourist spots have long been subject to discussions about the problems caused by visitors, but the recent boom in posting photos on social media such as Instagram has made it even more heated. The tranquility of tourist spots, natural landscapes, wildlife, and even familiar living environments throughout Japan is beginning to be destroyed by thoughtless posts by Instagrammers who want to show off their stunning photos and RUclipsrs who want to earn views for their camera equipment reviews. I was also very surprised that a similar crisis is occurring in an important place in your country. We need to learn more not only about the performance of our cameras, but also about our photography culture, photography etiquette, and how to use social media. I agree with everything you say. From Japan with love.
I agree at 100% with your video. Here in my country (Italy) many people haven't respect for the place where they live. Litter area are full of litter outside the dumpsters , cars and motorbikes with rigged silencer make a lot of noise. If you go on the tourist places (Venice, Rome,Florence etc.)the situation is much worst. The social media fault because everyone wants to share himself and the places surrounding without respect nothing and nobody. It's normal that the governement would make the end of this situation.
Well said. There is a difference between "instagrammers / influencers" and real, serious photographers (amateur or pro). Hopefully the trend will go away, in the meantime your rant is fully justified!
And what's the point of going to a place to take a photo which thousands of people did the same before you? The joy of travelling (and travel photography) is to explore and discover things previously unknown to you.
When I came back to London from a short trip to Japan a year ago now, I was so disgusted with my own city, London and the people. Playing music through phone speakers, pushing and shoving to get onto a bus or train, dropping litter, pushing their way through train barriers on the underground without paying, etc, etc. Japan is such a contrast to the UK. People there have a lot of respect for others, as well as themselves. If there are people talking on a bus or train, it is normally tourists. If local Japanese people are talking it is in hushed voices, not at the top of their lungs like here. If there is someone listening to music on a train or bus in Japan, they have headphones or earbuds in place, and you can't hear it. There is no rubbish (trash) around in Japan, not even in Tokyo. Everyone queues to get onto public transport, in fact on the trains there are queueing spots to stand at. At times, I wish I could just move to Japan to get away from my own country and how people are so disrespectful here. I don't blame you in the slightest for making this video Jimmy, I agree with you 100%.
Yes Jimmy. Everyone is a photographer now with their mobile phones 🤨🤨.
Recent trip to Grand Canyon, you wouldn't believe the number of idiots standing inches from the edge of a mile high cliff or standing in the middle of the highway at Forest Gump Hill to copycat other idiot's photograph! I for one can't understand it, tx for a great blog today.
I watched a Roman Fox video recently and he commented on similar mindless idiots taking fotos of Mt Fuji at a set of traffic lights. But if they walked as he did a short distance closer to Mt Fuji not only no people but arguably a better shot.
2 years ago i went to Peru and took the trail to what is regarded as the most beautiful lake in the country Laguna 69. I had previously watched a number of videos on this and seen fotos in trekking guides. They were beautiful and just the odd trekker around the fringe of the lake. Unfortunately the day i visited was a national holiday in Peru, . Rather than a few fellow lovers of peace and nature it was hoardes of the social media slaves, and on arrival the lakeshore was like Brighton beach 🥴 the high point was seeing a drone doing a dive into the lake and brief whirlpool 😁
I could rant on about the changes over the years in Patagonia , due in part to many of the self appointed expert landscape photographers but i will spare you 🤣
I believe all tourists’ when visiting other countries on vacation, should do a little research on culture,do’s and don’ts, and show respect, courtesy and kindness, when visiting other countries. In other words, “do onto others, as you would others, do onto you!”
I hear you. But tourists taking snapshots are not photographers. And influencers are a disease
Well said. I noticed the same on a recent trip to Japan. Too many occasions of visitors having no respect for traditions, sites, and people. I can not blame Japan for wanting to impose restrictions. On a lighter note, I wonder how many people who think they got the perfect geisha/kimono shot in Kyoto realise that their subject was most likely a tourist who had hired an outfit for the day. A lesson in taking time to listen as well as see before pressing the button. I guess one needs to be able to differentiate Japanese from Chinese, Thai, Tagalog, and even a good ole Texan drawl for that to be effective. Language awareness is another thing lacking in many tourists these days.
Even if you don't photograph an area, recently you have people climbing up in fountains or recently a family of three people pushing and destroying rock formations in national parks in the United States ,it's disgusting. Lastly I live near a park, in the morning before most people come to use the basketball court and children play area people leave their water bottles and food containers on the ground in an area where their are plenty of trash containers, this shows lack of respect and is a poor example for your children, several times a week I walk around the park with my dog picking up people's trash, I should not have to do this, if you can't pick up after your self, stay home and destroy your own house and yard.
Yes, over the course of the past 40+ years that I've been a photographer, I've seen places become overcrowded that were once peaceful and beautiful. I just remind myself that these places do not belong to me and in the case of national parks they belong to everyone. As for the locals, when I was in Talkeetna, Alaska I asked the owner of a small restaurant if she would be glad when the tourists left. And her reply to me was that they are glad to see them come and they'll be glad too see them go.
It’s sad to see too many tourists flocking to a hotspot like some of the examples from your video. As a photographer myself, I would rather scout for another place with no sight of any tourists at all to make my own photo creation, that I believe I can better enjoy photo taking even more.
Just last week a family of owls were nesting in a tree in an urban area of Singapore. Because they were so accessible, throngs of photographers crowded almost at the foot of the tree. The authorities had to put a cordon around the tree. No common sense at all.
people are angry that developing countries are allowed to do what the first world did to their environment. Set yourself free and don't worry what other people are doing, your mother tried teaching you that when you were 7.
💯Respect your fellow man and the climate, its basic just do it
Well said Jimmy - there’s just no respect in society these days! 😢
I hate all the litter and thilth THEY leave behind. Way too many people now.
Clueless, hapless, tourists lacking self-awareness are a real issue. I do find that photographers are, in general, rather respectful of environment and locals .... just my experience anyway. I'm not sure if we consider vlogging social media types (influencers, maybe? Maybe not the right term) "photographers." They can be rather obnoxious, loud, and "in your face," or generally behaving a bit loud and disrespectfully to those around them. Those folks need to tone it down a bit.
You reap, you sow. Very hypocritical.
Soooo...what's the solution?
Are you just now realizing that some people suck? There are always idiots that ruin it for the rest of us.
Yeah, as mentioned, I love aerial photography and videos, but because of idiots keep flying them towards planes, over highways and keep causing accidents, making other safe and responsible fliers almost impossible to fly these days. I've seen people climbed up on Tower Bridge for photos, which they could have fallen off and not only injured themselves, but others... why?
Right on mate! Greetings!
Well said……..respect seems to not apply to many people now
I agree with you
I think this is first ranting video I see from you. You rant on important topics. Disrespect and bad behaviour towards other people, countries and cultures is the lowest thing someone can do.
Hear, Hear!
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敬意をありがとうございます。
私たちもどこかに旅に行った時、その敬意を忘れないようにしたいです。日本でもそのほかの国・地域でも。写真と旅を愛するものとして、そして人間として。素晴らしい動画でした😊
Yeah, in North Carolina where I am, a bunch of douches pulled away some black bear cubs just to get their phones out. It's getting out of hand.
Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown was a master of respecting places that he visited.
We have fines for littering in Australia, yet there is still litter lying about from thoughtless people, despite adverts constantly carrying the anti-litter message. I always carry my own litter with me until I find a waste bin where I can dispose of it thoughtfully, and that includes whenever I travel. We also have laws on places where you can/cannot smoke, and it always amazes me when in Europe, how filthy some places look, with cigarette butts (and litter) everywhere. Some of this is from tourists, but it’s the locals who smoke and throw away cigarette butts. I have yet to go to Japan but have heard it’s a clean and respectful country. So your pet peeves are definitely warranted and I totally agree with you. As for photographers - well some are respectful, a lot are not.
The angry photographer? I think someone has taken that name. :)
My wife and I toured Great Britain on our honeymoon in 1977. We visited Stonehenge and at the time, you could walk among the stones. You were greeted with this sign as you entered the site: THESE FAMOUS STONES HAVE STOOD HERE FOR OVER THREE THOUSAND YEARS. DO NOT WRITE YOUR NAME ON THEM OR OTHERWISE DEFACE THEM. -MINISTRY OF WORKS- I have a photograph of the sign and people milling around the stones. Some people were sitting on stones, but no one was writing on them.
Possibly 6,000+years old, certainly older than the Pyramids. And yet what you saw in 1977 had been restored in the 60s as many of the stones had fallen. For many years prior to that Stonehenge was just a ruin.
It's the same thing in a number of other interests I follow: social media seems to be creating a generation of narcissists.
People just chucking litter, in any part of the world, has always exasperated me. The feeling has only increased since litter collection became a part of my job! Sheer unthinking self-centredness. There's no other explanation.
Add to that, the fact that a person is going to another country, a nation and home to a _lot_ of other people, and treating it like what? Their own personal theme park? Well out of sheer bloody-mindedness I say well done Japan. Some consequences for an utter lack of respect and consideration.
Agree 100% but do it not only in Japan ;) Do it everywhere, be better as a person. Be reasonable, respect your surroundings, be example for others. Live so that after your death, people feel sense of longing rather than relief ;) Cheers!
Just as frustrating as these people who have no respect for their surroundings trying to get an image for social media is RUclips censoring or deleting comments for no apparent reason.
I also agree. The respect others to have the same opportunity to take a similar photo
This has happen here in the usa in areas like in vt and nh
Right on target. Infuriating.
It's always been interesting to me why we want to photograph something ourselves that has been photographed a thousand times to Sunday and why we would hold our own photographs more valuable than another's, even if it's better shot. My guess would be to simple say that we were there.
Though at the end of the day, I find photography a much more satisfying endeavor when I treat it as a treasure hunt for what's meaningful to me instead of trying to coopt other people's treasure for the sake of stamp collecting.
One thing I learn since I started photography is that I try not to take the same shots that others have done already. I love to experiment effects, angles and composition, finding different things to do. I may do a 'snap', that record my presence there as a memory but it has no value in my photography. I won't fight for the same thing as many others. This trip in Japan, I rarely go near the crowd of anything!
Well Said👍 This issue is starting to get out off hand even iin Portugal with tourism.
Look at all the problems THEY are causing in Spain. I really feel for the locals.
Well said.
Well said mate!
Yes it has changed recently and its not just this stuff; we are sometimes becoming like a police state. I was stopped from taking photos of my sister in the centre of Basingstoke and was jumped by security guards and told no photography within the mall precinct. I said fine you can stuff your shops and I will go shopping in Winchester. A mall area is not a tourist spot that will be abused by photographers. I can understand people stopping pro gear on a tripod in a busy area but, I was using my Olympus Tough TG-6 for a snap for my diary. Whatever they say I will get a snap for my diary; discretely with my phone if need be!!! I will be very glad when this oppressive age passes and we get back to normal life again - have fun ;-)
You talking like you are not part of the problem 🤷♂