Excellent video! These protests will spread unfortunately: freedom of movement is in the crosshairs of some very powerful people, and it is far easier to restrict people's movement if it appears that it is the 'little people' calling for it... So the bought and paid for media stoke trouble between tourists and visitors, and before too long what starts off as fake becomes reality. When tourism plummets and the economies of these places are destroyed, the 'little people' will become even more dependent on the powerful people and their puppets... What a corrupt world we find ourselves in. God bless & fair winds, Chris
As someone who's "done" the Med for 4 years (mostly around Cote d'Azur and the Balearics); there's a reason I decided to pack it up and go elsewhere. Whether it's locals protesting against (over)tourism (which, granted, they do have a point there - except it's often not us cruisers who cause the issues); or the powers-that-be putting more and more dumb restrictions on anchoring and forcing you into exceedingly more expensive marinas, it's just not fun anymore to be there. I sold my boat and bought a river/canal cruiser instead and I'll be inlanding it for a while because at least there I still have options.
You’re going to find something like this everywhere you go, for various reasons. Assholes live everywhere but it’s not going to put us off from enjoying life 😜
@@SailingRagdoll oh, no doubt about that - it's just that -in my case- I was spending more time being frustrated than I was enjoying myself, so the easiest solution there was to just remove myself from the equation altogether and go elsewhere, because you're not necessarily going to be able to change the other part of said equation any :D So now I'm still enioying myself, still boating, just different waters :)
Super pretty scene at 6:09, then a lovely anchorage, and interesting caves to finish. I did a bit of research on the local tourism problems. They relate mainly to overcrowding, facilitated by resorts, apartment rentals, and cruise ships. I don't see how your family liveaboard boats are doing any harm.
Thank you! Empress Sailing looked beautiful in that shot! Yes, we thought that if anything, we positively contributed to the economy but it wasn’t seen that way by locals. This was only the beginning of the tourism issues that arose during our stay… it became a feature of our time in the Balearics though we didn’t put ourselves in a position to be affected like this again.
Small Spanish island police will often favour locals in any and all issues large and small. Don't forget most people know eachother or know of eachothers families....... This is why you never buy a property in Spain.
Hi guys Just found your RUclips channel 👍🏻 I going to watch all the episodes to 😅 Really sad with that incident. I heard about it for some time. It was demonstrated allot at Gran Canaria I think. We are a couple in the middle and end of our 50s. Dreaming of this lifestyle and are planning to buy our first boat next spring. Start training to sail and live aboard on a sailboat. Then when we will retire in a few year sail down to Greece and be there for a time. Take care and be safe 🫶😊 Bjoern & Susanne, Stehag Sweden
Hey guys, warm welcome & thank you for your kind comment! Yes, we have been aware of the protests across the Spanish islands, Canaries, Spain etc and have been cautious not to raise our profile but unfortunately what happened, happened. It's a great lifestyle to have nonetheless and shouldn't put anyone off - you can find crazies everywhere! Best of luck in your boat search & with your sailing courses! Happy sailing ⛵️
@@SailingFridaafWisby it is sad what’s going on. The country is torn between those who want tourists there and those who don’t. You just never know what you’re gonna get.
Si bien es cierto que el turismo nautico no daña tanto como cualquier otro, hay zonas y calas infestadas de yates que colisionan con los intereses de la gente de a pié, la solución creo sería poner un tope de barcos, como en los parques naturales.
@@chusbarreiro2888 and in other areas of the Mediterranean, national parks etc are paid and limited as well which is fully understandable and we were happy to pay to visit and enter these places if it meant that the funds go towards the maintenance and upkeep of the habitats. On this occasion, we were in a bay… away from the main beach… yet even through binoculars the next day, we could see all other tourists being badly hassled and attacked whilst on the main beach… with ambulance call outs required. Absolutely no need for violence.
@@SailingRagdoll la violencia nunca está justificada, sin embargo para comprender su actitud, (los reproches), me tiene pasado de abarloar varios barcos muy cerca de la costa y esto es como invadir su espacio de baño. En Menorca tengo ido a pié a calas que son pequeñas y el barco ocuparía mucho espacio y encontrarme que la cala está tomada por varios barcos abarloados y fodeados junto a la costa, sin dejar espacio para los bañistas. Es muy complicado el tema y los del lugar nos dicen que tenemos todo el mar para nosotros, y les dejemos al menos la costa. Es complicado vivir en los dos mundos.
@@chusbarreiro2888 by all means I agree that you shouldn’t enclose the space and take it all up for yourself - but anchor sensibly without being a pain in the ass to the locals - it’s common courtesy and we never put ourselves in that position. This also was not the case here - it was an abandoned, rocky area, generally unused and quite some distance away from the main swim lines.
Nothing the police could do - criminal damage, video identification, The police just dont want to know. - I would be more than happy to leave and spend my money elsewhere. When tourists leave and their economy tanks then maybe they will rethink their actions. Just disgusting.
@@faragatanfarra my importance has absolutely nothing to do with anything. It was a very simple observation of a criminal act and what is occurring in Spain at the moment. But please enlighten me, if the tourists leave what happens to all the cafes, restaurants, marinas etc.
@@faragatanfarra I know nothing of foreign investor etc. But these people are attacking people who's only crime is visiting the area. The offenders are taking it out on the wrong people.
What other industry does Ibiza have besides tourism? If they destroy tourism, they will become goat breeders as they were before, there are political interests behind it and those drunken idiots are just simple tools foisted on the bitter division.
The police reaction here did leave us disappointed because we weren’t being a hassle, causing chaos or anything of that sort. This began kicking off whilst our kids were still on the water playing and we quickly had to rush them out. We reported this to the police not only because of criminal damage, but because these individuals were terrifying our children and waving a knife around, whilst screaming all sorts of nonsense. We appreciate that overcrowding and rental prices, and frankly living costs for locals are problematic due to the tourism industry however, with us living on boats, only particularly spending money on the island whilst enjoying their beauty feels more like to the economy than take away. Frankly in the 5 months this season, we haven’t even been to a marina (and we’ve heard complaints about tourists taking up marina spaces too!). We’ve met some people who deeply apologise for the actions of those who are protesting and are incredible people but whilst we were in the Balearics, we just didn’t know what we were going to get - and this was not the last time we came across protesters.
@@SailingRagdoll A similar situation happened in Frankfurt where I live in 2019, when massive protests against cars were organized during the last car fair, it is interesting that the protests were absolutely peaceful and people came as if to a show, everyone was enjoying the show and now they are starting to lose jobs because the car industry is going downhill, my hobby is photography and I took a lot of photos during the events since then, for example in Rebstock Park I saw a lot of cars parked on the grass and when I took some photos a guard policeman came quickly, he told me that I am not allowed to take pictures, I asked what those cars parked on the grass when everyone is protesting against cars and he laughingly told me that they are the cars of the protesters who came from all over Germany at the protests, interestingly, on that day the protesters organized a big march of bicycles against cars, but they all came to Frankfurt by car. This is the big green agenda, a big show where some participate with small benefits but then they destroy their way of life, they destroy their jobs and the best part is that they are not even aware of it
If I would be a local fisherman I would be p-d too. The coastline is devastated by horrendous hotels, the profits end in the pockets of a corrupt elite and every place is filled with screaming tourists. Every day somebody else is docking his 100.000€ boat in front of the fisherman’s landing - not asking anybody for permission - or if they might need to land their catch in the morning. There are still so many empty and beautiful bays in the Mediterranean- why stick to the places which are already crowded and destroyed by overtourism?! This is not a playground but normal people still try to live their normal life there. We need to show more respect.
@@Isimud I’d completely understand if this was actually used by anyone but it was so worn down that it was unusable by many and frankly, we were AWAY from the busy beaches, keeping to the outskirts by ourselves and ONE other boat, what’s the problem? We didn’t visit busy busy places in the Balearics because that’s no fun for us either. We have got nothing to do with the hotels and corrupt elites nor screaming tourists. About the only thing we do is quietly explore and admire the beauty of these places whilst contributing to the local economies and shopping local… supporting locals so that approach, is frankly BS but that’s our two cents!
To say nothing of all the local charter boats who are more than happy to use the Cala for their paying guests… maybe the fishermen should be cutting their lines?
@@SailingRagdoll Thank you for your answer. I just had a look on google maps. You are right - it looks abandoned and nearby there are no houses. Probably you were really just at the wrong place at the wrong time. But I would still avoid the Balearics. The coastline has been destroyed almost entirely by hotels and tourism. I was once in Ibiza and it was impossible to find an empty beach. If you travel further east towards Italy and Greece you will find many peaceful beautiful spots where the locals will still welcome you. Fair winds!
@@Isimud it is still a beautiful area and to visit and despite these events we have enjoyed it. We did leave as season peaked towards Italy however, it seems these protests are happening across the Mediterranean though are lesser in Italy and Greece. It’s one of those you live and you learn moments… it’s a shame because we’ve met some incredible people in the Balearics and made some life long friends too.
Other sail RUclipss have reported problems including nasty, fining, or stealing officials, language hostility, or just nastiness. Don't feel singled out.
For someone who has been cruising for years in the Med, it is evident that as boating becomes more and more popular, lovely anchorage are now overcrowded. Hence the negative reactions of the locals. It is sad but what can we do? Paying more respect to the locals could be a starting point!
@@ririshow i wholeheartedly agree and we never put ourselves in positions to be a pain or bother others… there was however no excuse for this. In our time in the Balearics, we’ve encountered protests in the streets and tourists being sprayed with various acids and chemicals through water guns… respect works both ways... we’ve also encountered locals complaining about tourist numbers decreasing because of these, therefore their profits decreasing… they have to find a middle ground.
It is frustrating that it happens, however, it's not everyone on the islands that does not welcome tourists - there are many locals who welcome them with open arms. Some locals are already experiencing the profit losses due to less people visiting certain areas, or restaurants being emptier as tourists don't venture out as much.
Je vais vous dire, moi je suis née à saint tropez et j’y vis et je paie des impôts. Les touristes nous écrasent, ce sont des investisseurs qui gèrent le bizzness des loisirs, et notre vie est horrible tout l’été. Pas un sou ne va dans notre poche, c’est tout pour les lobbyistes. Alors, les touristes, on ne les supporte plus. Tourist go home, et laissez nous vivre simplement chez nous. Votre argent, votre présence, on n’en veut pas.
@@marie-pascaleleonetti1555 and for each person with your point of view, there’s ten others with the opposite view. We were there in April. Before season remotely kicked off. Not quite yet summer and we were on a remote little nook with no locals or others around. Your views are your views but they do not give you the right to act like an asshole and be violent.
This is not true… First thing you need to know is that in Spain we are not allow to anchor and tide a rope in the coast. You judge an entire lovely people for the action of one guy.
@@alexpellon9654 I am by no means judging the entire country by the few, frankly the opposite. You’ll see in comments below that I stated that for every protesting individual there was 5 lovely welcoming people who wanted us there. The shore ties were also fine as we did ask about them when speaking to the police 👍
I take it that for someone who come to Ibiza for the first time it's still ok but for people who saw it 50 years ago it's now merely the shadow of itself. Terribly overbuild. Cala Llonga here is an example. It does not show that much on the video but it's basically a cheap holliday resort for brits. This place was among the first to be thoroughly ruined by sugar boxes style of hotels designed for mass tourism.
@@pierrevanhalteren5733 it wasn’t our first time in Ibiza, but it is still beautiful and worth visiting. Cala longa at the time of our visit was quiet - low season, not full of tourists yet. Out of season it’s a different experience too which is why we were there at that time. The snorkelling and diving in the area is still beautiful. The same could be said for anywhere sadly! Some of our favourite parts of the Balearics were the ‘out of season and inaccessible to tourist or only accessible by water areas.’
Regarding the protestors, people turn to violence when they feel nothing else works. I doubt they intended to harm you, just wanted you not to be there. It is their home, and for us cruisers its a privilege to be able to visit anc benefit from these places but we must always respect their wishes. If they dont want you there, simply dont go there. A little prior research would have prevented the confrontation. A good lesson well learned. You can not blame them or the police, you must learn, youre a privileged visitor to their home and their home means their rules.
@@MarchTwentyfour-t8z fair enough however, what were we to do? Not visit the Balearics at all because of protests? Avoid an entire country because a few of the locals don’t want you there? That seems somewhat illogical. More people apologised for us having to deal with it than those who attacked us. We did move to the middle of the anchorage, we didn’t just stay there. This escalated within 5-10 mins from first comment to lines being cut whilst our children were in the water. To say that we shouldn’t have gone to that bay is ludicrous. Prior research would have done nothing in this situation. The tourism protests are a huge issue all over the Balearics but for every protester, there’s 5 other locals who welcome you and your family.
@@SailingRagdoll To answer your question, should you avoid a place because there is a higher risk of trouble or danger. Yes of course! All the words you said here are nice, but they would all change if one of your children were harmed or god forbid killed. Absolutely try to avoid trouble. There are endless beautiful peaceful places to be, no one needs to put themselves, their family and or crew at a higher risk. No argument or feeling that you were right is worth the pain of a loved one injured or worse.
@@MarchTwentyfour-t8z you do realise that these protests are occurring all over Spain…. Right?! Nevermind the fact that based on that reasoning, you could find a reason to not visit any country - including our home ones! These protests have significantly grown over summer, but back here in early season, they were far and few between. Do not make it sound like we intentionally put our children at risk. It’s not about being right or wrong, but about the fact that in every place you visit, you can find trouble, or it’ll find you. It comes as part of live aboard life and visiting places. We avoided MANY places for reasons of violence, theft and what not. You can’t avoid it all. And again, for every angry individual, you have 10 others who welcome tourists and visitors with open arms because tourism is whay sustains them… By your logic we should all sit at home… and frankly even there we can’t be 100% safe. Life and travel and everything worth doing or having, comes with risks and that’s just that.
@@SailingRagdoll My intention was and is not to argue with you. If a country is in strife or high risk, why go there? The beauty of cruising is that you have choices, you are not limited to one port or even one country. I've had similar discussions with people cruising around parts of the Philippines and Malaysia, it's high risk, in some places extremely high risk and yet they still go and then blame others for their own choices when the inevitable happens. Of course it's your choice. If it was me I'd avoid it like the plague and come back when things have settled down and I knew we all could relax and enjoy in safety. But that's just me.
@@MarchTwentyfour-t8z I’m not arguing with you either, however at this rate, we should avoid the entire Mediterranean because these protests are everywhere at the moment…. It’s just part of the reality right now and you have to be aware of what happens around you. The entire country isn’t a risk because of protests, no one has been killed, these incidents can happen anywhere.
And sadly you get them everywhere you go! We had such a wonderful time in other places on the Balearics so far and never anticipated something like this happening… and papers all say the protesters and protests have been harmless - not quite our experience after three months in the Balearics!
@@javieribanez3524 that’s understandable but the rocks we were tied on to were really sharp and there was no swim lines or anything there. It was almost inaccessible by land. No excuse to behave like a twat and tell someone to go home because they don’t belong!
Javier no me venga con esas tonterias. Those protesters were criminals, that had NO right to cut ropes. If those ropes disturb, there something called Police to come and regulate. Trying to justify the actions from those ....ers is justifying their means. shame on you man.
@@anthonyg4671 I am not an anti-tourist but it is time to rewrite the basic rules of coexistence when there are many people at the same time in the same place. People are angry with some of the behavior of visitors who do things they don't have the guts to do at home. It is not normal for three drunk German police officers on vacation to beat up a taxi driver because they believe he has stolen a cell phone that later turns out to appear in the pocket of one of them and on top of that they try to bribe the civil guard to get out of the mess. It is not normal for a German yacht, after spending an afternoon bothering other people anchored in a cove, to pass over a small fishing boat and kill a 23-year-old boy and not even stop. Can you understand it? These are things that the education of visitors and locals would avoid. And yes, there are a lot of idiots among the anti-tourists
So you knew of the anti tourism protests and decided to tour there? Is this boat your home or do you have a second home? If this is your home, tell the locals you are not tourists but gypsies. If you have a home elsewhere, try to understand this is theirs and perhaps they do have the right to turn away floating tourist houses from theirs?
@@anonymous.notatall6419 these protests were fairly quieter at the time and we avoided big cities and places where they took place. We chose quieter and more remote locations. Also, yes it’s our home whilst we travel though it is not our only home. Are those in RV Vans or temporarily renting properties there gypsies too? Ridiculous notion. They’ve had every level of understanding from us but we did nothing but contribute to their economy (significantly might I add!!) and respect their home, so why couldn’t they respect our RIGHT to free movement across EU? Also what gives them the right to become violent?
@SailingRagdoll it is not a ridiculous notion to qualify if you are a gypsie (someone living on the move who doesn't have the choice to go back to their other home) or a tourist abroad (agree on the RV and airbnb tourists being just that there as well) as you are visiting on the assumed complicit welcome of the locals, but here it is pretty obvious they do not want you there. "We did nothing but contribute to their economy" is that "We gave the money, you must like us!" There is obviously more to this than money. Cruising in a second home does not give you the right to impose yourself on locals who don't want you. It is a privilege granted, not a right. I believe this is especially true the further from major metropolises you visit. A different story if it is a port of call in a storm or an emergency re provisioning, of course you should be allowed in then. Also, cutting ropes is never riight or legal but perhaps as cruisers there needs to be a better reading of the room. In "being ouraged poker" this is my only home local trumps visiting tourist with other place to live and go back to.
@@anonymous.notatall6419 I did not state that they need to like us because we contributed to the economy. If you look at where we were, you’ll see that we were FAR away from all locals, tucked in an unused, unmaintained old fishing pier. We in no way IMPOSED ourselves on locals. We never do. Also, it was certainly NOT obvious they did not want us there until they smoked endless weed and drank more than one can imagine and we had MANY locals afterwards apologising for what those few idiots did. The entire country isn’t against tourists, they are VERY welcome in so many places around the islands but you can’t count on everyone being pleasant… just like in every other country.
@@connannbarbarin3033 whilst we appreciate that this is their home country, where they might have grown up and the place they love the most, it is in no way, shape or form acceptable to treat ANYONE the way they did.
See the problem with sailing as a cruiser is that you're a tourist when you think that they should just have respect for the fact that you have kids and a family and your families decided to camp out in their backyard remember that those people feel like they own that place and you didn't ask permission to be there you just show up Sailors are the worst for that nobody files an airline flight without planning the trip you call ahead you got a hotel you find out if the country wants you there and is willing to let you travel there the problem is with a lot of sailors they're very entitled people very often, which is unfortunate but true. Imagine me and my family decide we're taking a tour of your boat? Would you welcome us? If not your quite hypocritical. Look you one day decided you have the right to tour the world, but you cant do it alone, if theres bad weather or a problem onboard youll make unscheduled stops in unexpected places. This means youll often end up in dangerous and unwelcomeing places and you know this, the part that makes you the problem is your thinking this should be ok. Its one thing if your truly self saficient but no boat really is. You have also put your children in harms way just by sailing with them! Then you kinda invade another country, that is to say you just show up with no permission. Then theres pirates, disease you might spread and thats just to start. Not everyone want sailboats as tourism, youll bring garbage you want to dump, human waste as well yet you bring no benefits to the country you visit. If sailors want to be treated well they need to be prepared to die on the water if know port wants them. It sounds harsh but the world does not belong to you and we all must share it. If your thinking every port should want you then your boat should be open to everyone whenever they want.
@@KEITHDROBINSON-d2w I appreciate your passionate take on sailing and travel! As a European, I’m just thrilled to have the freedom of movement to explore the Mediterranean 😂😂 we are not invading anything 😂😂😂 You know, we were actually at sea for a LONG TIME, minding our own business with lines tied on. If someone wanted to come aboard and politely ask for a tour and have a chat, they’d be more than welcome! But I guess they must have missed the “Welcome Aboard” sign we had floating around amongst flying knives that were cutting our lines… 👍 And that rundown rock you mentioned that we invaded? Definitely not a cozy Airbnb or someone’s camping ground… ! You could barely walk there safely, let alone live. We plan our trips like responsible adults-no unexpected stops for us this far and I intend to keep that record though I appreciate it might happen… but again, freedom of movement! 😂 We spend quite a bit of money when we visit, you know, contributing to local economies? The local shops, restaurants, chandleries, everything else? Do you think we fly back to Morrisons weekly? We don’t dump our rubbish or pollute, have you heard of recycling? we’re practically eco-warriors out here-self-sufficient and making our own water (there’s these magical things called water makers and solar panels!) And as for putting our kids at risk? 😂 by that logic taking your kids anywhere, even on holiday is dangerous so why not just let them suffer and never leave home or their home country… or better yet, lets not have any at all? What a stretch! We follow all the proper procedures when entering and leaving countries, so no disease-spreading or chaos here but I take up a new career as a pirate, I’ll let you know 👍 It sounds like you might be someone who’s never left their house, which is quite the adventure in itself… By the way, is your house open to everyone? Just drop your address, and we can swing by for a friendly visit. After all, if we’re invading with our little sailing trip, I’d love to see how that logic applies to your backyard because that land once belonged to someone else too I’m sure! 😂 Best Regards & yours truly, Entitled Invader-Sailors 💚
Ok. Screw the laws and international conventions that your country signed. You want me to get off a piece of the sea that isn't your direct property? No problem! But who will reimburse me for the money I paid to your country's immigration service when I entered territorial waters? Will you return that money?
@@Serhiy34yeah the anti sailor rant was pretty crazy. I mean they are in the EU also. Imagine someone mad because these people in cars just drive into your town, park, and get out and walk around like they own the place ha!
Jesus H Christ my man, paragraphs and punctuation, please! Also, please, put some thought into what you post because in this entire block of text I didn't see a single coherent thought expressed...
Excellent video! These protests will spread unfortunately: freedom of movement is in the crosshairs of some very powerful people, and it is far easier to restrict people's movement if it appears that it is the 'little people' calling for it... So the bought and paid for media stoke trouble between tourists and visitors, and before too long what starts off as fake becomes reality.
When tourism plummets and the economies of these places are destroyed, the 'little people' will become even more dependent on the powerful people and their puppets... What a corrupt world we find ourselves in.
God bless & fair winds,
Chris
@@SailingBritaly couldn’t agree more - it’s a sad state of affairs! Thanks for watching!
As someone who's "done" the Med for 4 years (mostly around Cote d'Azur and the Balearics); there's a reason I decided to pack it up and go elsewhere. Whether it's locals protesting against (over)tourism (which, granted, they do have a point there - except it's often not us cruisers who cause the issues); or the powers-that-be putting more and more dumb restrictions on anchoring and forcing you into exceedingly more expensive marinas, it's just not fun anymore to be there. I sold my boat and bought a river/canal cruiser instead and I'll be inlanding it for a while because at least there I still have options.
You’re going to find something like this everywhere you go, for various reasons. Assholes live everywhere but it’s not going to put us off from enjoying life 😜
@@SailingRagdoll oh, no doubt about that - it's just that -in my case- I was spending more time being frustrated than I was enjoying myself, so the easiest solution there was to just remove myself from the equation altogether and go elsewhere, because you're not necessarily going to be able to change the other part of said equation any :D So now I'm still enioying myself, still boating, just different waters :)
@@gfimadcat good on you! We left the Balearics shortly after and haven’t had anything like that to deal with again… 😊
Super pretty scene at 6:09, then a lovely anchorage, and interesting caves to finish. I did a bit of research on the local tourism problems. They relate mainly to overcrowding, facilitated by resorts, apartment rentals, and cruise ships. I don't see how your family liveaboard boats are doing any harm.
Thank you! Empress Sailing looked beautiful in that shot!
Yes, we thought that if anything, we positively contributed to the economy but it wasn’t seen that way by locals. This was only the beginning of the tourism issues that arose during our stay… it became a feature of our time in the Balearics though we didn’t put ourselves in a position to be affected like this again.
Small Spanish island police will often favour locals in any and all issues large and small.
Don't forget most people know eachother or know of eachothers families.......
This is why you never buy a property in Spain.
Yes Andy, we figured this might be the case but it was a disappointing nonetheless!
No causan daño pero masifican aún mas la costa, la presión turistica es insoportable para sus habitantes, las autoridades deberían poner topes
Yo disfruto mucho del barco y excursiones a pié, y ambos mundos parecen irreconciliables,
Hi guys
Just found your RUclips channel 👍🏻
I going to watch all the episodes to 😅
Really sad with that incident. I heard about it for some time. It was demonstrated allot at Gran Canaria I think.
We are a couple in the middle and end of our 50s. Dreaming of this lifestyle and are planning to buy our first boat next spring.
Start training to sail and live aboard on a sailboat. Then when we will retire in a few year sail down to Greece and be there for a time.
Take care and be safe 🫶😊
Bjoern & Susanne, Stehag Sweden
Hey guys, warm welcome & thank you for your kind comment!
Yes, we have been aware of the protests across the Spanish islands, Canaries, Spain etc and have been cautious not to raise our profile but unfortunately what happened, happened.
It's a great lifestyle to have nonetheless and shouldn't put anyone off - you can find crazies everywhere!
Best of luck in your boat search & with your sailing courses! Happy sailing ⛵️
Those turist protest are getting scary. They should focus on the party turism instead they are the ones that disturb and distroy
@@SailingFridaafWisby it is sad what’s going on. The country is torn between those who want tourists there and those who don’t. You just never know what you’re gonna get.
Si bien es cierto que el turismo nautico no daña tanto como cualquier otro, hay zonas y calas infestadas de yates que colisionan con los intereses de la gente de a pié, la solución creo sería poner un tope de barcos, como en los parques naturales.
@@chusbarreiro2888 and in other areas of the Mediterranean, national parks etc are paid and limited as well which is fully understandable and we were happy to pay to visit and enter these places if it meant that the funds go towards the maintenance and upkeep of the habitats.
On this occasion, we were in a bay… away from the main beach… yet even through binoculars the next day, we could see all other tourists being badly hassled and attacked whilst on the main beach… with ambulance call outs required. Absolutely no need for violence.
@@SailingRagdoll la violencia nunca está justificada, sin embargo para comprender su actitud, (los reproches), me tiene pasado de abarloar varios barcos muy cerca de la costa y esto es como invadir su espacio de baño. En Menorca tengo ido a pié a calas que son pequeñas y el barco ocuparía mucho espacio y encontrarme que la cala está tomada por varios barcos abarloados y fodeados junto a la costa, sin dejar espacio para los bañistas. Es muy complicado el tema y los del lugar nos dicen que tenemos todo el mar para nosotros, y les dejemos al menos la costa. Es complicado vivir en los dos mundos.
@@chusbarreiro2888 by all means I agree that you shouldn’t enclose the space and take it all up for yourself - but anchor sensibly without being a pain in the ass to the locals - it’s common courtesy and we never put ourselves in that position.
This also was not the case here - it was an abandoned, rocky area, generally unused and quite some distance away from the main swim lines.
Nothing the police could do - criminal damage, video identification, The police just dont want to know. - I would be more than happy to leave and spend my money elsewhere. When tourists leave and their economy tanks then maybe they will rethink their actions. Just disgusting.
@@faragatanfarra my importance has absolutely nothing to do with anything. It was a very simple observation of a criminal act and what is occurring in Spain at the moment. But please enlighten me, if the tourists leave what happens to all the cafes, restaurants, marinas etc.
@@faragatanfarra I know nothing of foreign investor etc. But these people are attacking people who's only crime is visiting the area. The offenders are taking it out on the wrong people.
What other industry does Ibiza have besides tourism? If they destroy tourism, they will become goat breeders as they were before, there are political interests behind it and those drunken idiots are just simple tools foisted on the bitter division.
The police reaction here did leave us disappointed because we weren’t being a hassle, causing chaos or anything of that sort. This began kicking off whilst our kids were still on the water playing and we quickly had to rush them out. We reported this to the police not only because of criminal damage, but because these individuals were terrifying our children and waving a knife around, whilst screaming all sorts of nonsense.
We appreciate that overcrowding and rental prices, and frankly living costs for locals are problematic due to the tourism industry however, with us living on boats, only particularly spending money on the island whilst enjoying their beauty feels more like to the economy than take away. Frankly in the 5 months this season, we haven’t even been to a marina (and we’ve heard complaints about tourists taking up marina spaces too!).
We’ve met some people who deeply apologise for the actions of those who are protesting and are incredible people but whilst we were in the Balearics, we just didn’t know what we were going to get - and this was not the last time we came across protesters.
@@SailingRagdoll A similar situation happened in Frankfurt where I live in 2019, when massive protests against cars were organized during the last car fair, it is interesting that the protests were absolutely peaceful and people came as if to a show, everyone was enjoying the show and now they are starting to lose jobs because the car industry is going downhill, my hobby is photography and I took a lot of photos during the events since then, for example in Rebstock Park I saw a lot of cars parked on the grass and when I took some photos a guard policeman came quickly, he told me that I am not allowed to take pictures, I asked what those cars parked on the grass when everyone is protesting against cars and he laughingly told me that they are the cars of the protesters who came from all over Germany at the protests, interestingly, on that day the protesters organized a big march of bicycles against cars, but they all came to Frankfurt by car. This is the big green agenda, a big show where some participate with small benefits but then they destroy their way of life, they destroy their jobs and the best part is that they are not even aware of it
If I would be a local fisherman I would be p-d too. The coastline is devastated by horrendous hotels, the profits end in the pockets of a corrupt elite and every place is filled with screaming tourists.
Every day somebody else is docking his 100.000€ boat in front of the fisherman’s landing - not asking anybody for permission - or if they might need to land their catch in the morning.
There are still so many empty and beautiful bays in the Mediterranean- why stick to the places which are already crowded and destroyed by overtourism?! This is not a playground but normal people still try to live their normal life there. We need to show more respect.
@@Isimud I’d completely understand if this was actually used by anyone but it was so worn down that it was unusable by many and frankly, we were AWAY from the busy beaches, keeping to the outskirts by ourselves and ONE other boat, what’s the problem?
We didn’t visit busy busy places in the Balearics because that’s no fun for us either.
We have got nothing to do with the hotels and corrupt elites nor screaming tourists. About the only thing we do is quietly explore and admire the beauty of these places whilst contributing to the local economies and shopping local… supporting locals so that approach, is frankly BS but that’s our two cents!
To say nothing of all the local charter boats who are more than happy to use the Cala for their paying guests… maybe the fishermen should be cutting their lines?
@@mishnishfourseventy1 the charter boats cause far more chaos than half the liveaboards do…
@@SailingRagdoll Thank you for your answer. I just had a look on google maps. You are right - it looks abandoned and nearby there are no houses. Probably you were really just at the wrong place at the wrong time. But I would still avoid the Balearics. The coastline has been destroyed almost entirely by hotels and tourism. I was once in Ibiza and it was impossible to find an empty beach. If you travel further east towards Italy and Greece you will find many peaceful beautiful spots where the locals will still welcome you. Fair winds!
@@Isimud it is still a beautiful area and to visit and despite these events we have enjoyed it. We did leave as season peaked towards Italy however, it seems these protests are happening across the Mediterranean though are lesser in Italy and Greece. It’s one of those you live and you learn moments… it’s a shame because we’ve met some incredible people in the Balearics and made some life long friends too.
Other sail RUclipss have reported problems including nasty, fining, or stealing officials, language hostility, or just nastiness. Don't feel singled out.
It’s sad that it even happens. Just no need for it.
For someone who has been cruising for years in the Med, it is evident that as boating becomes more and more popular, lovely anchorage are now overcrowded. Hence the negative reactions of the locals. It is sad but what can we do? Paying more respect to the locals could be a starting point!
@@ririshow i wholeheartedly agree and we never put ourselves in positions to be a pain or bother others… there was however no excuse for this.
In our time in the Balearics, we’ve encountered protests in the streets and tourists being sprayed with various acids and chemicals through water guns… respect works both ways... we’ve also encountered locals complaining about tourist numbers decreasing because of these, therefore their profits decreasing… they have to find a middle ground.
F*ck the locals! They dont own the island. It isnt "their" island. You dont like tourists? That is your problem, so you move!
Nobody should spend a dime there. No trade or anything. Disgusting behavior. Makes the whole place look uncivilized. Not a dime.
It is frustrating that it happens, however, it's not everyone on the islands that does not welcome tourists - there are many locals who welcome them with open arms. Some locals are already experiencing the profit losses due to less people visiting certain areas, or restaurants being emptier as tourists don't venture out as much.
Je vais vous dire, moi je suis née à saint tropez et j’y vis et je paie des impôts. Les touristes nous écrasent, ce sont des investisseurs qui gèrent le bizzness des loisirs, et notre vie est horrible tout l’été. Pas un sou ne va dans notre poche, c’est tout pour les lobbyistes. Alors, les touristes, on ne les supporte plus. Tourist go home, et laissez nous vivre simplement chez nous. Votre argent, votre présence, on n’en veut pas.
@@marie-pascaleleonetti1555 and for each person with your point of view, there’s ten others with the opposite view.
We were there in April. Before season remotely kicked off. Not quite yet summer and we were on a remote little nook with no locals or others around.
Your views are your views but they do not give you the right to act like an asshole and be violent.
And the Spanish are OK with migrants from North Africa?
@@stephenskinner3851 they’re not… they seem to have an issue with everyone but Brits especially.
@@SailingRagdollthere’s a class of Brit that makes for ugly tourists. Kind of like many American cruise ship customers.
This is not true… First thing you need to know is that in Spain we are not allow to anchor and tide a rope in the coast. You judge an entire lovely people for the action of one guy.
@@alexpellon9654 I am by no means judging the entire country by the few, frankly the opposite. You’ll see in comments below that I stated that for every protesting individual there was 5 lovely welcoming people who wanted us there.
The shore ties were also fine as we did ask about them when speaking to the police 👍
I take it that for someone who come to Ibiza for the first time it's still ok but for people who saw it 50 years ago it's now merely the shadow of itself. Terribly overbuild. Cala Llonga here is an example. It does not show that much on the video but it's basically a cheap holliday resort for brits. This place was among the first to be thoroughly ruined by sugar boxes style of hotels designed for mass tourism.
@@pierrevanhalteren5733 it wasn’t our first time in Ibiza, but it is still beautiful and worth visiting. Cala longa at the time of our visit was quiet - low season, not full of tourists yet. Out of season it’s a different experience too which is why we were there at that time. The snorkelling and diving in the area is still beautiful. The same could be said for anywhere sadly! Some of our favourite parts of the Balearics were the ‘out of season and inaccessible to tourist or only accessible by water areas.’
@@SailingRagdoll I agree that the Med out of season is still a very desirable place. But it used to be like paradise.
@@pierrevanhalteren5733 and to many extents and in many places, it still is...
Regarding the protestors, people turn to violence when they feel nothing else works.
I doubt they intended to harm you, just wanted you not to be there.
It is their home, and for us cruisers its a privilege to be able to visit anc benefit from these places but we must always respect their wishes.
If they dont want you there, simply dont go there. A little prior research would have prevented the confrontation.
A good lesson well learned.
You can not blame them or the police, you must learn, youre a privileged visitor to their home and their home means their rules.
@@MarchTwentyfour-t8z fair enough however, what were we to do? Not visit the Balearics at all because of protests? Avoid an entire country because a few of the locals don’t want you there? That seems somewhat illogical. More people apologised for us having to deal with it than those who attacked us. We did move to the middle of the anchorage, we didn’t just stay there. This escalated within 5-10 mins from first comment to lines being cut whilst our children were in the water.
To say that we shouldn’t have gone to that bay is ludicrous. Prior research would have done nothing in this situation. The tourism protests are a huge issue all over the Balearics but for every protester, there’s 5 other locals who welcome you and your family.
@@SailingRagdoll To answer your question, should you avoid a place because there is a higher risk of trouble or danger. Yes of course!
All the words you said here are nice, but they would all change if one of your children were harmed or god forbid killed.
Absolutely try to avoid trouble. There are endless beautiful peaceful places to be, no one needs to put themselves, their family and or crew at a higher risk.
No argument or feeling that you were right is worth the pain of a loved one injured or worse.
@@MarchTwentyfour-t8z you do realise that these protests are occurring all over Spain…. Right?!
Nevermind the fact that based on that reasoning, you could find a reason to not visit any country - including our home ones!
These protests have significantly grown over summer, but back here in early season, they were far and few between.
Do not make it sound like we intentionally put our children at risk. It’s not about being right or wrong, but about the fact that in every place you visit, you can find trouble, or it’ll find you. It comes as part of live aboard life and visiting places. We avoided MANY places for reasons of violence, theft and what not. You can’t avoid it all.
And again, for every angry individual, you have 10 others who welcome tourists and visitors with open arms because tourism is whay sustains them…
By your logic we should all sit at home… and frankly even there we can’t be 100% safe. Life and travel and everything worth doing or having, comes with risks and that’s just that.
@@SailingRagdoll My intention was and is not to argue with you.
If a country is in strife or high risk, why go there? The beauty of cruising is that you have choices, you are not limited to one port or even one country.
I've had similar discussions with people cruising around parts of the Philippines and Malaysia, it's high risk, in some places extremely high risk and yet they still go and then blame others for their own choices when the inevitable happens.
Of course it's your choice. If it was me I'd avoid it like the plague and come back when things have settled down and I knew we all could relax and enjoy in safety. But that's just me.
@@MarchTwentyfour-t8z I’m not arguing with you either, however at this rate, we should avoid the entire Mediterranean because these protests are everywhere at the moment…. It’s just part of the reality right now and you have to be aware of what happens around you.
The entire country isn’t a risk because of protests, no one has been killed, these incidents can happen anywhere.
Fanatics are never good for anything. People are sheep. They follow their leader without thinking.
And sadly you get them everywhere you go! We had such a wonderful time in other places on the Balearics so far and never anticipated something like this happening… and papers all say the protesters and protests have been harmless - not quite our experience after three months in the Balearics!
People hates lines to earth cause calas are full up and these lines disturb swimmers, padle surf, kayaks and dinghies, it's not hard to understand.
@@javieribanez3524 that’s understandable but the rocks we were tied on to were really sharp and there was no swim lines or anything there. It was almost inaccessible by land. No excuse to behave like a twat and tell someone to go home because they don’t belong!
Javier no me venga con esas tonterias. Those protesters were criminals, that had NO right to cut ropes. If those ropes disturb, there something called Police to come and regulate. Trying to justify the actions from those ....ers is justifying their means. shame on you man.
@javieribanez3524 nothing to do with lines doesn’t matter if they came on a boat or a bus they are anti tourist ,it’s not hard to understand 🙄
@@anthonyg4671 I am not an anti-tourist but it is time to rewrite the basic rules of coexistence when there are many people at the same time in the same place. People are angry with some of the behavior of visitors who do things they don't have the guts to do at home. It is not normal for three drunk German police officers on vacation to beat up a taxi driver because they believe he has stolen a cell phone that later turns out to appear in the pocket of one of them and on top of that they try to bribe the civil guard to get out of the mess. It is not normal for a German yacht, after spending an afternoon bothering other people anchored in a cove, to pass over a small fishing boat and kill a 23-year-old boy and not even stop. Can you understand it? These are things that the education of visitors and locals would avoid. And yes, there are a lot of idiots among the anti-tourists
So you knew of the anti tourism protests and decided to tour there? Is this boat your home or do you have a second home? If this is your home, tell the locals you are not tourists but gypsies. If you have a home elsewhere, try to understand this is theirs and perhaps they do have the right to turn away floating tourist houses from theirs?
@@anonymous.notatall6419 these protests were fairly quieter at the time and we avoided big cities and places where they took place. We chose quieter and more remote locations.
Also, yes it’s our home whilst we travel though it is not our only home.
Are those in RV Vans or temporarily renting properties there gypsies too? Ridiculous notion.
They’ve had every level of understanding from us but we did nothing but contribute to their economy (significantly might I add!!) and respect their home, so why couldn’t they respect our RIGHT to free movement across EU? Also what gives them the right to become violent?
@SailingRagdoll it is not a ridiculous notion to qualify if you are a gypsie (someone living on the move who doesn't have the choice to go back to their other home) or a tourist abroad (agree on the RV and airbnb tourists being just that there as well) as you are visiting on the assumed complicit welcome of the locals, but here it is pretty obvious they do not want you there.
"We did nothing but contribute to their economy" is that "We gave the money, you must like us!"
There is obviously more to this than money.
Cruising in a second home does not give you the right to impose yourself on locals who don't want you. It is a privilege granted, not a right. I believe this is especially true the further from major metropolises you visit.
A different story if it is a port of call in a storm or an emergency re provisioning, of course you should be allowed in then.
Also, cutting ropes is never riight or legal but perhaps as cruisers there needs to be a better reading of the room.
In "being ouraged poker" this is my only home local trumps visiting tourist with other place to live and go back to.
@@anonymous.notatall6419 I did not state that they need to like us because we contributed to the economy.
If you look at where we were, you’ll see that we were FAR away from all locals, tucked in an unused, unmaintained old fishing pier.
We in no way IMPOSED ourselves on locals. We never do.
Also, it was certainly NOT obvious they did not want us there until they smoked endless weed and drank more than one can imagine and we had MANY locals afterwards apologising for what those few idiots did.
The entire country isn’t against tourists, they are VERY welcome in so many places around the islands but you can’t count on everyone being pleasant… just like in every other country.
They dont own the island. It isnt "their" island. You dont like tourists? That is your problem, so you move!
@@connannbarbarin3033 whilst we appreciate that this is their home country, where they might have grown up and the place they love the most, it is in no way, shape or form acceptable to treat ANYONE the way they did.
See the problem with sailing as a cruiser is that you're a tourist when you think that they should just have respect for the fact that you have kids and a family and your families decided to camp out in their backyard remember that those people feel like they own that place and you didn't ask permission to be there you just show up Sailors are the worst for that nobody files an airline flight without planning the trip you call ahead you got a hotel you find out if the country wants you there and is willing to let you travel there the problem is with a lot of sailors they're very entitled people very often, which is unfortunate but true. Imagine me and my family decide we're taking a tour of your boat? Would you welcome us? If not your quite hypocritical. Look you one day decided you have the right to tour the world, but you cant do it alone, if theres bad weather or a problem onboard youll make unscheduled stops in unexpected places. This means youll often end up in dangerous and unwelcomeing places and you know this, the part that makes you the problem is your thinking this should be ok. Its one thing if your truly self saficient but no boat really is. You have also put your children in harms way just by sailing with them! Then you kinda invade another country, that is to say you just show up with no permission. Then theres pirates, disease you might spread and thats just to start. Not everyone want sailboats as tourism, youll bring garbage you want to dump, human waste as well yet you bring no benefits to the country you visit. If sailors want to be treated well they need to be prepared to die on the water if know port wants them. It sounds harsh but the world does not belong to you and we all must share it. If your thinking every port should want you then your boat should be open to everyone whenever they want.
@@KEITHDROBINSON-d2w I appreciate your passionate take on sailing and travel! As a European, I’m just thrilled to have the freedom of movement to explore the Mediterranean 😂😂 we are not invading anything 😂😂😂
You know, we were actually at sea for a LONG TIME, minding our own business with lines tied on. If someone wanted to come aboard and politely ask for a tour and have a chat, they’d be more than welcome! But I guess they must have missed the “Welcome Aboard” sign we had floating around amongst flying knives that were cutting our lines… 👍
And that rundown rock you mentioned that we invaded? Definitely not a cozy Airbnb or someone’s camping ground… ! You could barely walk there safely, let alone live.
We plan our trips like responsible adults-no unexpected stops for us this far and I intend to keep that record though I appreciate it might happen… but again, freedom of movement! 😂
We spend quite a bit of money when we visit, you know, contributing to local economies? The local shops, restaurants, chandleries, everything else? Do you think we fly back to Morrisons weekly?
We don’t dump our rubbish or pollute, have you heard of recycling? we’re practically eco-warriors out here-self-sufficient and making our own water (there’s these magical things called water makers and solar panels!)
And as for putting our kids at risk? 😂 by that logic taking your kids anywhere, even on holiday is dangerous so why not just let them suffer and never leave home or their home country… or better yet, lets not have any at all? What a stretch!
We follow all the proper procedures when entering and leaving countries, so no disease-spreading or chaos here but I take up a new career as a pirate, I’ll let you know 👍
It sounds like you might be someone who’s never left their house, which is quite the adventure in itself…
By the way, is your house open to everyone? Just drop your address, and we can swing by for a friendly visit.
After all, if we’re invading with our little sailing trip, I’d love to see how that logic applies to your backyard because that land once belonged to someone else too I’m sure! 😂
Best Regards & yours truly,
Entitled Invader-Sailors 💚
I’m staggered by the lunacy of this post! Not a coherent thought in there at all… really it’s a triumph! 😂😂😂
Ok. Screw the laws and international conventions that your country signed. You want me to get off a piece of the sea that isn't your direct property? No problem! But who will reimburse me for the money I paid to your country's immigration service when I entered territorial waters? Will you return that money?
@@Serhiy34yeah the anti sailor rant was pretty crazy. I mean they are in the EU also. Imagine someone mad because these people in cars just drive into your town, park, and get out and walk around like they own the place ha!
Jesus H Christ my man, paragraphs and punctuation, please! Also, please, put some thought into what you post because in this entire block of text I didn't see a single coherent thought expressed...