Whoa... Quill18 On a caffeine rush? First video of this style I have seen... Surprised and "hyped" by how extremely energetic he seems.... contagious "aura"... Thank you!
Love Caverna, good choice! Only game that I bought an custom insert for all the components. Makes the set-up muuuch smoother and just easier to get to the table when everything is organized.
Hello! I'm from Portugal. There is a developer here (Gil D'orey) who has a series of board games that you could like - Caravelas, Aljubarrota, City of Spies, etc.
I own the base civ game but have only played it couple of times, our group has so many games between us its hard to find time for them all. I'd also like to hear quills thoughts on it
I have the base game and played it like 3 times. It is nice, but takes some time and I am not into the combat rules, since it is basically stone-scissors-paper and nothing else, but if you are a civ fan you will have fun with it.
I just love Uwe Rosenberg's games too. The favorite of mine is Ora et Labora. Quill, have you played that one? If not, pease do try it out as i just love the interaction between players.
You talked about Deck building games in a past video, so I would like to recommend one, Shadowrun Crossfire. It's obviously based around the shadowrun universe, but what makes this game very fun when it comes to gameplay is that it is a co-op experience. You choose a mission which you and your friends have to overcome. You have to overcome random obstacles that are drawn from different decks while slowly purchasing equipment to strengthen your characters. It's a lot of fun and you might want to give it a try.
Agricola can feel super punishing at first. After many plays I still find it really tough, but it's at the same time very rewarding too. Caverna is great, but it lacks the tension that Agricola has (which some people prefer). Both excellent games.
While it might not be as conventional of a game, have you ever played the Star Trek Ascendancy boardgame Quill? The standalone box is up to 3 players and it suffers from the usual 3player FFA woes, but once you add the 4-5 player expansions its an AMAZING game (though it takes 5-6hrs typically with 5 players). Its a 4X strategy board game dumbed down just enough so its not overbearing while not being so dumb downed its too simple to be interested. My friends and i love it, and i cant get them to play any boardgame normally lol just Wargames (miniature gaming)
How about the Pax games? Pax Porfiriana, Pax Pamir, and Pax Renaissance. Amazing games, tiny boxes. Most bang for your buck you'll ever get. Also, Pax Emancipation and Pax Transhumanity are being worked on.
Could you mention the recommended minimum age for these games? I'm always on the lookout for games to play with my 8-yo, but don't want to get him stuff that's too complex.
The recommended age range for Agricola is 12+ if I remember correctly. It's buried in my game stack so can't see currently. But there is less complex version of it called Agricola: Family Edition. I think the ages for that is 8+ or so. Caverna is recommended for 12+ as well but there is a two player version that just released recently called Caverna: Cave vs Cave that is 10+.
This may be a bit too complex, but I'd really recommend Agricola: all creatures big and small instead. It's faster, less complex, but the main heart of the game is still there. Only for 2 players though.
+quill18 If you like Uwe Rosenberg games I highly recommend Feast of Odin. I am very excited for his Indian Summer which is a more serious gamer's version of Cottage Garden (Released late January 2018). I'm a huge boardgamer. Currently my favourites are Grand Austria Hotel, Food Chain Magnate & the epic Twilight Imperium 4th edition. Great boardgames dot ca have about the best prices in Canada.
Hey Quill, if you haven't tried it yet, you should definitely play Terraforming Mars, it was one of my favorite games released last year, and it's got a bunch of depth to it!
I loved Agricola, but Lords of Waterdeep replaced it as my favorite worker placement game. The problem with Agricola is that scoring is so abstracted that everyone I've introduced the game to has to play the game once or twice before understanding what's going on. It's hard to judge the value of food/resources/buildings from the outset to make meaningful decisions. Lords of Waterdeep provides the same feeling of specialization and competing over limited resources, but it's a little more clear how many points each action you take is worth.
One thing that has always puzzled me--why is it a-gric-ol-a when it is about ag-ri-cul-ture? (Everyone says it that way, too!) Besides, with the alternate pronunciation, you can say "ag-RIIIII-COLAAAAAAAAAA!!!" Great recommendations!
Well the word "farmer" is agricola in Latin. What's more confusing, for us history buffs, is that Agricola was also a Roman general responsible for the conquest of Britain and has nothing to do with farming. He also has his own board game called Agricola that released last year, so even more confusion there. :)
Gaming With Geo Lol that is great regarding the Roman general! The Latin can set it straight then, but I do not know the Latin pronunciation. Is the "gric" all the same syllable in Latin, or is the "ag" the same syllable in Latin? In other words, which syllable has the g, the first or second?
Quill!! If you don't stop this new crazy series soon you may be responsible for causing serious unwanted harm to my budget and I run a high risk of dangerously increasing my social life!!!
If Agricola sounds good.. it is. It is brilliant, but there is a newer game that came out that softens some of the edges and adds a new theme that completely replaced it for me, call Brew Crafters. It takes the same 3 year, season-to-season worker placement gameplay style, but instead of trying to feed your 17th century farmers... you are a micro brewer running your own brewery and have to gather ingredients to make new kinds of beer. Cannot recommend it enough. boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/139898/brew-crafters
I own Brew Crafters as well and I agree it is a more enjoyable game. Though I am curious if the newer game Beer Empire will replace Brew Crafters. I wasn't that impressed with the Kickstarter of it, but now that it's out, maybe it's actually better than it looked.
Agricola is alright I suppose. It was the second Uwe Rosenberg game that I played after At the Gates of Loyang, which ir a great game by the way. But Caverna replaced Agricola, as far as I'm concerned, and is my favorite game from that designer. Though Ora et Labora is really, really good as well and has been inching up to the top of the list of his games. If it ever gets an expansion, not likely it looks like, it would overtake Caverna for me at least.
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Here's a fun fact Agricola Or more specifically micael Agricola is the person who translated the Bible to Finnish during the reformation and also invented some new words Seeing his name is also basically the only reason I clicked on this video
I feel like this format is an injustice of sorts to the games being represented. I'd rather watch something a bit longer, say 10-15 minutes, that demonstrated the game play mechanics that you talk about in the video with a visual representation on the actual game board. Instead you talk about how great some of these games are but without context all we can honestly do is speculate about how it would play out in an actual game environment. I think the idea of this format is a great idea but currently it, in my opinion, is poorly implemented and should be expanded upon.
Agricola is horrible. After 3 turns you know you're not going to win, and then you have 11 turns left. In a 4 player game, that means 1+hour plus of frustration Not my type of fun.
Only if you define your enjoyment by if you're going to win or not. There's plenty of enjoyment to be had in just building out your farm, even if you're not the eventual victor.
Caverna is less stressful and less tight, so I'd argue you should still give that one a shot. I prefer Agricola myself because of the variety and the tension.
Caverna is a great game and my family plays it every weekend. Thanks for reviewing these!
Excited to see you feature these, we play the hell out of Caverna around these parts and it's definitely one of our gaming group's favorites.
Whoa... Quill18 On a caffeine rush?
First video of this style I have seen...
Surprised and "hyped" by how extremely energetic he seems.... contagious "aura"...
Thank you!
Love Caverna, good choice! Only game that I bought an custom insert for all the components. Makes the set-up muuuch smoother and just easier to get to the table when everything is organized.
These are fantastic. I've owned Agricola since it was first released and I can't remember how many times we've played. Always a good time
Love both games. I usually tell people that the play time is 30 minutes/player, plus add another 30 if you have new players or people with AP issues.
Quill introduced to me a lot of games I wouldn't have given a second look if I saw it in a store
Quill, why not make a series where you play boardgames? :o
I've been trying to get him to play on Tabletop Simulator XD
He's tried that at least once, maybe more. Not sure why it didn't stick tbh.
According to him, it's never stuck because getting people who want to play boardgames online is harder to get them all together at one time.
He did play Battlestar Galactica and a few other games on the Vassal engine some time back. I also would like to see that return.
Wondering about Fields of Arle. I want a complex farming game but not sure which if the three to get.
Hello! I'm from Portugal.
There is a developer here (Gil D'orey) who has a series of board games that you could like - Caravelas, Aljubarrota, City of Spies, etc.
Have you played the civilization board game (and expansions?). As someone who plays civV and civVI so much I'd love to know what you think.
I own the base civ game but have only played it couple of times, our group has so many games between us its hard to find time for them all. I'd also like to hear quills thoughts on it
I have the base game and played it like 3 times. It is nice, but takes some time and I am not into the combat rules, since it is basically stone-scissors-paper and nothing else, but if you are a civ fan you will have fun with it.
Which one? There are multiple different ones...and I have probably played it.
I think he means the official Civilization board game made by Fantasy Flight that is licensed by 2k games and Firaxis.
mrsamtheman80 Sid Meier's civilisation
Feast for Odin! Fell in love with that and now I’m thinking of retroactively buying Caverna. Why is farming so fun?
LOVE this series keep it up!!
I just love Uwe Rosenberg's games too. The favorite of mine is Ora et Labora. Quill, have you played that one? If not, pease do try it out as i just love the interaction between players.
Le Havre is my favorite of his, and Loyang is great as well solo or 2 players and just got reprinted.
You talked about Deck building games in a past video, so I would like to recommend one, Shadowrun Crossfire.
It's obviously based around the shadowrun universe, but what makes this game very fun when it comes to gameplay is that it is a co-op experience. You choose a mission which you and your friends have to overcome. You have to overcome random obstacles that are drawn from different decks while slowly purchasing equipment to strengthen your characters. It's a lot of fun and you might want to give it a try.
Love Agricola, hadn't seen caverna. Would be great to see a full playthrough!
2 defining worker placement games. A board gamer just *has* to have either. Or both.
Has your group ever tried Dixit? Really unique board game, very creative and fun.
Have you looked at 878 Vikings by Academy Games? Very fun to play.
Would Caverna be a lot like agricola if you could buy/gain the career(and other) cards from a pool during the game?
Great games. Agricola makes me so anxious
Quill, will you play Blood Bowl on PC when it's released later this year?
Agricola can feel super punishing at first. After many plays I still find it really tough, but it's at the same time very rewarding too. Caverna is great, but it lacks the tension that Agricola has (which some people prefer). Both excellent games.
Agrocila is farmer in latin
It's true. It says so on the box.
Soccerkid Love to read!! Agricola is agricultural in portuguese!
JRufu I didn't even see that I just take Latin class
Also a surname of a man who came up with literary Finnish in 16th century
Good to know
While it might not be as conventional of a game, have you ever played the Star Trek Ascendancy boardgame Quill? The standalone box is up to 3 players and it suffers from the usual 3player FFA woes, but once you add the 4-5 player expansions its an AMAZING game (though it takes 5-6hrs typically with 5 players).
Its a 4X strategy board game dumbed down just enough so its not overbearing while not being so dumb downed its too simple to be interested. My friends and i love it, and i cant get them to play any boardgame normally lol just Wargames (miniature gaming)
i really like co-op games and Ghost Stories is one of my favorits! The Art alone is so good and it is really hard.
How about the Pax games? Pax Porfiriana, Pax Pamir, and Pax Renaissance. Amazing games, tiny boxes. Most bang for your buck you'll ever get.
Also, Pax Emancipation and Pax Transhumanity are being worked on.
Could you mention the recommended minimum age for these games? I'm always on the lookout for games to play with my 8-yo, but don't want to get him stuff that's too complex.
Caverna has an less complex version, and if your kid is used to games it might work. But only you know how your kid work.
The recommended age range for Agricola is 12+ if I remember correctly. It's buried in my game stack so can't see currently. But there is less complex version of it called Agricola: Family Edition. I think the ages for that is 8+ or so. Caverna is recommended for 12+ as well but there is a two player version that just released recently called Caverna: Cave vs Cave that is 10+.
This may be a bit too complex, but I'd really recommend Agricola: all creatures big and small instead. It's faster, less complex, but the main heart of the game is still there. Only for 2 players though.
+quill18 If you like Uwe Rosenberg games I highly recommend Feast of Odin. I am very excited for his Indian Summer which is a more serious gamer's version of Cottage Garden (Released late January 2018). I'm a huge boardgamer. Currently my favourites are Grand Austria Hotel, Food Chain Magnate & the epic Twilight Imperium 4th edition. Great boardgames dot ca have about the best prices in Canada.
Can you do the Europa Universalis Board Game?
Hey Quill, if you haven't tried it yet, you should definitely play Terraforming Mars, it was one of my favorite games released last year, and it's got a bunch of depth to it!
I loved Agricola, but Lords of Waterdeep replaced it as my favorite worker placement game. The problem with Agricola is that scoring is so abstracted that everyone I've introduced the game to has to play the game once or twice before understanding what's going on. It's hard to judge the value of food/resources/buildings from the outset to make meaningful decisions. Lords of Waterdeep provides the same feeling of specialization and competing over limited resources, but it's a little more clear how many points each action you take is worth.
Good vid bro!
Quill, please move to Sweden! So I can have cozy gaming night together with you and friends!
One thing that has always puzzled me--why is it a-gric-ol-a when it is about ag-ri-cul-ture? (Everyone says it that way, too!) Besides, with the alternate pronunciation, you can say "ag-RIIIII-COLAAAAAAAAAA!!!"
Great recommendations!
Well the word "farmer" is agricola in Latin. What's more confusing, for us history buffs, is that Agricola was also a Roman general responsible for the conquest of Britain and has nothing to do with farming. He also has his own board game called Agricola that released last year, so even more confusion there. :)
Gaming With Geo Lol that is great regarding the Roman general!
The Latin can set it straight then, but I do not know the Latin pronunciation. Is the "gric" all the same syllable in Latin, or is the "ag" the same syllable in Latin? In other words, which syllable has the g, the first or second?
Twilight imperium 3 or (4). That's the challange for you.
Quill!! If you don't stop this new crazy series soon you may be responsible for causing serious unwanted harm to my budget and I run a high risk of dangerously increasing my social life!!!
Any good horror games, like house on the hill.
and some like that? :)
If Agricola sounds good.. it is. It is brilliant, but there is a newer game that came out that softens some of the edges and adds a new theme that completely replaced it for me, call Brew Crafters.
It takes the same 3 year, season-to-season worker placement gameplay style, but instead of trying to feed your 17th century farmers... you are a micro brewer running your own brewery and have to gather ingredients to make new kinds of beer. Cannot recommend it enough.
boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/139898/brew-crafters
I own Brew Crafters as well and I agree it is a more enjoyable game. Though I am curious if the newer game Beer Empire will replace Brew Crafters. I wasn't that impressed with the Kickstarter of it, but now that it's out, maybe it's actually better than it looked.
have you played viticulture? another great game about making wine
Funny enough, Agricola means Farming(and other synonyms) and Caverna means Cave - in Portuguese, and no, it isn't the same thing as Spanish.
Caverna is cave as well in spanish
Es lo mismo en español y en portugués, hablo los dos idiomas xD
i've been avoiding Agricola, but enjoy Caverna and Fields of Arle.
Agricola is alright I suppose. It was the second Uwe Rosenberg game that I played after At the Gates of Loyang, which ir a great game by the way. But Caverna replaced Agricola, as far as I'm concerned, and is my favorite game from that designer. Though Ora et Labora is really, really good as well and has been inching up to the top of the list of his games. If it ever gets an expansion, not likely it looks like, it would overtake Caverna for me at least.
"Why You Should Buy a Boardgame (in 5 Minutes)"
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Both great games, but A Feast For Odin is better.
Quill, have you tried Betrayal at the House on the Hill? Great game.
how quill have you ever tried gwent? its awesome
"5 minutes", "6:31".
You liar!
Here's a fun fact
Agricola Or more specifically micael Agricola is the person who translated the Bible to Finnish during the reformation and also invented some new words
Seeing his name is also basically the only reason I clicked on this video
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You could get these down to five minutes if you talked faster.
I feel like this format is an injustice of sorts to the games being represented. I'd rather watch something a bit longer, say 10-15 minutes, that demonstrated the game play mechanics that you talk about in the video with a visual representation on the actual game board. Instead you talk about how great some of these games are but without context all we can honestly do is speculate about how it would play out in an actual game environment. I think the idea of this format is a great idea but currently it, in my opinion, is poorly implemented and should be expanded upon.
The cards in Agricola are horribly unbalanced. Agricola sucks for new players, and the theme is pretty lame too.
Pandemic!
Agricola is horrible. After 3 turns you know you're not going to win, and then you have 11 turns left. In a 4 player game, that means 1+hour plus of frustration
Not my type of fun.
Kinda like Monopoly, except shorter time?
git gud
Only if you define your enjoyment by if you're going to win or not. There's plenty of enjoyment to be had in just building out your farm, even if you're not the eventual victor.
Caverna is less stressful and less tight, so I'd argue you should still give that one a shot. I prefer Agricola myself because of the variety and the tension.